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Thursday, February 07, 2008
Michelle Malkin :: Townhall.com Columnist
Quo Vadis, Conservatives?
by Michelle Malkin
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"Quo vadis," conservatives? It's the ancient, apocryphal question the apostle Peter asked Jesus while fleeing persecution in Rome. Where are you going? Where do we go from here?

The contest for the GOP presidential nomination is over. The conservative movement is not. Sen. John McCain's campaign resurrection and Super Tuesday victory leave a diverse group on the right -- from the libertarian Club for Growth to First Amendment defenders to immigration enforcement proponents -- dispirited. But the failure to nominate a true Republican unifier does not spell ideological defeat.

On Wednesday, wielding his olive branch like a schoolmarm's ruler, Sen. McCain told conservatives to "calm down." My advice is exactly the opposite: Get fired up.

Some on the right advise their readers and listeners to vote Democrat or sit home. My advice is exactly the opposite: Get off the couch and walk the walk for conservative candidates and officeholders who need all the help they can get defending free markets, free minds and secure borders -- no matter who takes the White House in November.

Dissatisfied with the flawed crop of GOP candidates who lacked the energy, organizational skills and ideological strength to carry the conservative banner and ignite your passions? Then pay attention to the next generation of Republican state legislators who do vote consistently to lower your taxes, uphold the sanctity of life, defend marriage and cut government spending. Support their re-election bids. Reward them for standing with you, instead of their Democrat opponents and the liberal media.

Look at Barack Obama. Four years ago, he was in the Illinois legislature. Now, he's on the cusp of the presidency.

If you can't stomach John McCain, channel your support and energies to Republicans who do represent your values and who have treated the conservative base as allies instead of enemies. There is a new generation of combat veterans running for office who haven't made a career of trashing the base. Check out staunch economic, social and national security conservative congressional candidates like Iraq/Afghanistan veteran Eric Egland in California's 4th district. Check out the Vets for Freedom (vetsforfreedom.org) group for their endorsements.

Opposed to the amnesty bill? Republican Sens. Jeff Sessions of Alabama, Thad Cochran of Mississippi, James Inhofe of Oklahoma and John Cornyn of Texas all fought the McCain-Kennedy-Graham-Martinez-Bush open-borders disaster. All of those senators are up for re-election this year. Send them some money. Then send a few more bucks to the enforcement proponents on the House side, as well.

Don't sit and wait for the fence to get built. It won't be finished under the Bush administration or a McCain administration or an Obama or Hillary Clinton administration. What you can do is pressure mayors and police chiefs and city councils to rescind dangerous sanctuary policies. What you can do is alert county sheriffs that you want them to work with the feds to end illegal alien catch-and-release policies in your neighborhood. What you can do is stop patronizing businesses that you know are knowingly employing illegal immigrants using fake IDs and stolen Social Security numbers.

There are other vital issues on the ballot this fall that need conservative backing. Conservative stalwart Ward Connerly is leading a "Super Tuesday for Equal Rights" drive in November to end racial preferences in five states. He has not only battled the race demagogues on the left and the affirmative action apologists in the media, but also spineless GOP establishment leaders who would rather pander to the "diversity" lobby than fight for true equality under the law. Connerly spearheaded resounding victories in California, Washington and Michigan. The new campaign is targeting Arizona, Colorado, Missouri, Nebraska and Oklahoma. Support his organization, the American Civil Rights Institute (www.acri.org).

Twenty-six years ago at the Conservative Political Action Conference, President Reagan rallied conservatives:

"We must ask ourselves tonight how we can forge and wield a popular majority from one end of this country to the other, a majority united on basic, positive goals with a platform broad enough and deep enough to endure long into the future, far beyond the lifespan of any single issue or personality."

Get involved. Don't calm down. Get fired up.

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dang
where did it go?

PhillupSpace writes:
"Well stay home and assure the election of a democrat that is "liberal on everything!" Boy, that will show them!"

We're not trying to 'show' dems anything. The 'show' is for the GOP. Who obviously forgot their roots, their base, their priciples, their soul.

To Condi Rice- What is the matter with you?! You are the foulest, filthiest, most deranged blogger I've ever seen. You come to TH to irritate and mouth off the most vile ignorance displayed by mankind. You're present yourself as nothing more than a foul, filthy, gross, grunge queen. If I didn't see it for myself, I would never believe ANY human being could be this low, this grotesque and this foul.

see ROCK BABY
SEE WHAT YOU DID? OFF TO THE BASEMENT! oh my bad, your already there!

http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=956&title=Vietn am_Veterans_Against_McCain&vpkey=62acaf320c

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
Write in a name folks, it is still a free country!


early2rise
sorry, but there are a few of them here LOL

http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=956&title=Vietn am_Veterans_Against_McCain&vpkey=62acaf320c

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
Write in a name folks, it is still a free country!

Can you blame TH? NO!

There was so much liberal garbage on the thread that they probably had no choice but to pull the entire thread.



Posts vanish?
Something emptied this thread!

Great article.

Now I guess we will hear McCain demand Republicans stand under his banner.

How many years have Republicans called for McCain to stand under the Republican banner and stop collaborating with extreme Left Democrats?

I think McCain will get the same help he gave us!

Chris the Moderator
Please bring back the thread. It was good.

Good advice Michelle
I was reasy to throw in the towel. Except that we are lost. Whatever happens won't affect me. I am retired, getting older. I am a proud naturalized American. I won't live to see that damage that the current politicians are doing to the country, so why should I care ? From now on I will support only those people that I know are fighting for my conservative views. Scr&w the Republican party as such. They will not get a dime of my money. I am not going to vote for people (like my senator Kyle) the next time around if they do not have the same views as I have. I am going to support only the people that are conservative. I am a Republican. If you do not support the Republican views, leave the Party. McCain should have left trhe party in 2001.
Having said all that: I have been looking to register on MM for ages, always too late !

Doc
Yeah I saw that. But this Condi was really out of control. Condi and Robert take up much of the thread with zero discussion. Just insults, slams, irrelavence, aggitation, that's pretty much it. But Condi takes it to a total grunge level. Yuk!

BTW, saw McCain's speech. He didn't do too much to 'reach out'. Even with Newt as his VP, I can't bring myself to support this guy.

Do not just sit home
Even if you intend (as do the three voters in this household) to not vote for RINO McCain, go to the polls and vote in every other race, from US Senator down to district dogcatcher. GOP must learn not to take conservatives for granted any more. Apparently, the 2006 congressional elections did not get their attention.

McCain says we have to unite "for the good of the party." Balderdash!!! I think it is high time that the party take conservatives seriously, or lose us completely. One way to succeed is to get our guys elected at every level, while refusing to support those who are so contemptuous of us.

zzzzzzzzz

Trumpeting Regurgitation
Arguing with you is like nailing jello to a tree.

You wouldnt know logic if it bit you on the butt. Why would I waste time even trying to discuss any issues with someone who has less grasp of the english language than my wife's bird?

The bird has more intelligence too.


TR
THE BURDEN OF PROOF FOR YOUR POST RESTS WITH YOU!

We rarely ask people like you to post links because we assume you are a liar.
Socialists like you come here just to practice lies.
You need to be proficient liars to sell your Government by Bunko Scam.

Now I usually volunteer links to validate my posts.
Say for instance, if I were to post something like;

All the Libs posting here are either Communists or "Useful Idiots" who procure children for pediphiles, I would first post this link;
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy/msg/66ead9217 cb955bc

That shows you are all Communists or those the Communists call "Useful Idiots", then I would post this link;
http://hollycrud.com/2006/10/nancy-girl-wants-old-gays-with -young.html

to show how you Communists procure children for pedophiles.

See how it works?
You don't need to post links. We assume you are a liar!

TR
How can the war in Iraq be unconstitutional when YOUR CONGRESS voted for it?

Furthermore, I don't recall addressing you in any of my posts. Unless, YOU are Condi.

For you to jump to respond to my comment on the conduct of another, and bring up a ludicrous example which you conclude to be some kind of parallel, having nothing to do with the subject at hand, is irresponsible and rude.

This certainly doesn't shock me as the majority of your posts are irresponsible and rude and often treasonous. Figures you would jump at the first opportunity to defend vileness and filth. You need to check yourself.

Sophia with a thousand names(Condi Rice)
Hey STUPID!
I used YOUR LEADERSHIP as examples.
Certainly you can find an isolated example of ANYTHING somewhere in a group of millions.
Using the isolated instance for a crutch proves only that you can find NO other defense.

Your LEADERSHIP makes it a general practice!
http://www.americansfortruth.com/news/does-nancy-pelosi-con done-manboy-sex-if-the-man-is-a-democrat.html

Your whole Party is comprised of such filth and YOU are a prime example!

MyOpine: What IS their need to be so

vulgar?

Their parents must be so proud of what they've spawned....




TR
So what?
Are you saying that NO Democrat president ever increased the debit?
Oh, and Reagan had a Democrat House.
You are aware the House holds America's purse strings?

This presently rising debit?
Democrats hold the purse strings and own the blame!

I wonder
If people are right on TH in saying Condi lice is really Larry Craig trolling?

http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=956&title=Vietn am_Veterans_Against_McCain&vpkey=62acaf320c

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
Write in a name folks, it is still a free country!

No, not under their skin...


More REPULSED and REPELLED by your ABHORRENT posts!



Vote for your favorite

ModerateMark writes:
Next time try being a moderate, we can vote for anybody and not feel guilty.

This is partly true, if you think of all the Independents (dems and libs) that voted for McQuack

http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=956&title=Vietn am_Veterans_Against_McCain&vpkey=62acaf320c

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
Write in a name folks, it is still a free country!

early2rise
I usually do ignore that silly clown.
BUT I am getting curious about what that Welfare Queen will use for her new name so I am helping her get more flags.

She has less brains that a frog.
I have lost count of the times she has been kicked off TH.

These filthy mouthed Socialists think that all they loose is the name.

I see Jack,
That explains TR talking about a white and black streaked keyboard!

http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=956&title=Vietn am_Veterans_Against_McCain&vpkey=62acaf320c

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
Write in a name folks, it is still a free country!

TR
Hay YEW!
Eye due da spellen korecting round hear!
Yew air jus sum pettie newsance.
Peeples mosly sea der oan spellen airers sune aftr posten.
If yew kan unnerstan da wurd ta korrect spellen den uther peeple kan to.

Hey sophie
Why don't you take on a more fitting name?

I have a few suggestions.

Madeline Albright.
Helen Thomas
Monica Lewinsky
Linda Tripp,
or
Janet Reno

Now that's a TR kinda gal, then you two pukes could hook up and have little anarchists of your own.

TR
Democrats have such blind lust for power over the lives of others that they prostitute all personal honor by embracing the likes of;
http://americansfortruth.com/issues/the-agenda-glbtq-activi st-groups/national-glbq-activist-groups/national-glbtq-acti vist-groups/nambla/

And this;
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewSpecialReports.asp?Page=\\Specia lReports\\archive\\200508\\SPE20050825a.html

And this;
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/john-kerry-gained-fame-t hanks-to-phony-soldiers

And this;
http://hollycrud.com/2006/10/nancy-girl-wants-old-gays-with -young.html

And the list is nearly endless!

I think they are getting close to the point of self disgust though because the Communists among them are cowering behind various euphemisms like "Progressive" and "New Left" and "Democratic Socialists of America" and this list is nearly endless also.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.conspiracy/msg/66ead9217 cb955bc

Democrats are aware Americans who know what Democrats actually represent are repelled from them in disgust and would never vote to give them power. Democrats know they could never win an honest election and therefore always resort to fraud.

MyOpine: Just IGNORE the idiot...
.

Anne
I am having fun with that moron. ;-)

He is in WAY over his head and is too stupid to see it.

Jackpine
TR and his ilk remind me of those turds that float up to the top of toilet after you took a dump and flushed the toilet. Then you have to flush the toilet again. What a waste of water

MyOpine..That's true! But anyone using

more than on syllable is too deep for him...

He takes the prize for the most moronic poster on TH.... even worse than wobbie the weener...

Just wonder how long it will take for him to be BANNED AGAIN! :-)







TR
You are so wrapped up in your own ego that you can't see beyond your own fiction.

You have proven nothing about Republicans.
You have PROVEN you are too stupid to learn.
READ YOUR CONSTITUTION!
Congress spends the money, NOT THE PRESIDENT!
Reagan had a DEMOCRAT Congress!

You seem to be too dense to grasp this regardless of who tells you, HOW MANY TIMES!

PAY ATTENTION! STUPID!

Substance? TR wouldn't know substance

if it smacked him right square in the head...


But then, he's so dense that he wouldn't know THAT he was smacked right square in the head!!!



Anne
How do you ignore people and post to them at the same time?

See what you did Anne?
You frightened away Porno Sophie & TR both!

to all & TR
Didn't someone ask TR today about what qualifications Hillary had to be POTUS?

Did he ever answer before the thread was taken down?

So TR, what has Hillary done to make her qualified to be POTUS.

And you can't use the fact that she has been the #1 "fundraiser" of illegal Chinese money


ModerateMark, are you still here?
I spent over 1/2 a century on the water.
The best drunk boater story I know is about two boats with drunks at the helm circling an island in opposite directions, towing drunk skiers.

One passed under the other's tow rope and NEITHER had brains enough to toss the rope!

One was killed instantly.
The other made it to the ambulance but was DOA.
Booze just don't belong in boats!

Seems like every year we have new regulations on boats & motorcycles.
Too bad we can't just make it illegal to be an idiot!

I have to switch drives for some work.
"Work"? That is a word that should get you flagged at TH!
Hasta mañana amigo

Quo Vadis?
If you want to see where the world is headed read John Fonte - "The Ideological War within the West. Then make sure every candidate you vote for is not a Transki.

Sadness
Some posters have proven over and over that some Liberals come to a battle of ideas unarmed.

I pity the poor fools who can only be nasty and sophomoric. They show utter contempt for fellow human beings who think differently.

So much for Liberal diversity and compassion.

"Out of the mouth, the heart speaks." I pray for your souls. You have no shame. No adult takes you seriously and you only serve to make yourselves and your opinions irrelevant.

"Father, forgive them for they know not what they do."

Love to all, even the haters,

Salt

DRAFT ROMNEY/ BOYCOTT McCAIN
Romney can win without a majority of the delegates.
We just need to continue supporting him in the remaining Red States.

Put that together with a campaign to get just 15% of registered republicans (including the Hucksters Republicans) to sign a petition that they will not vote for McCain period. In these times the signatures could be collected easily via email. One website could provide the vehicle. Then as an added punch have 10,000 conservatives picket the Convention with McShame, McAmnesty and Manchurian candidate signs and McCain would have to resign. There would be no point in him continuing.

Rush and other talk show hosts are on board. Ann Coulter and many other columnists are on board. Hannity was falling all over himself today so he wouldn't have to get on board. He was saying that the ball is in McCain's court. But to do what Sean? To lie to us some more. We know where he stands. And he holds us in such contempt that he will enjoy lying to us.

DRAFT ROMNEY/ BOYCOTT McCain
Romney can win without a majority of the delegates.
We just need to continue supporting him in the remaining Red States.

Put that together with a campaign to get just 15% of registered republicans (including the Hucksters Republicans) to sign a petition that they will not vote for McCain period. In these times the signatures could be collected easily via email. One website could provide the vehicle. Then as an added punch have 10,000 conservatives picket the Convention with McShame, McAmnesty and Manchurian candidate signs and McCain would have to resign. There would be no point in him continuing.

Rush and other talk show hosts are on board. Ann Coulter and many other columnists are on board. Hannity was falling all over himself today so he wouldn't have to get on board. He was saying that the ball is in McCain's court. But to do what Sean? To lie to us some more. We know where he stands. And he holds us in such contempt that he will enjoy lying to us.

I agree, draft Romney
I refuse to vote for McCain, especially if he picks Huckabigot for his running mate.

The talk about him picking Romeny is just that as far as I'm concerned, talk.

The chances
of me voting for mccain would greatly increase if Fred Thompson was on the ticket. Then I would say my probablility of voting for him would be 100%

Michelle Malkin is an excellent source
Most of us like the way Michelle lays out the facts. She is honest, thought provoking and inspiring. She is truly an American inspiration.

There seem to be certain people on the left that come to this site to spew venom about her and her ideas, obviously thinking that we readers who enjoy and are inspired by Malkin will become frustrated and disoriented by their propensity for vulgarisms and lack of good character.

That is not likely. We realize that these poor, wretched people are crying out for badly needed help which we would gladly give them if we could possibly know who or where they really are. alas, the secrecy of the internet dooms them to a lonely, tormented existence which in the end will be regarded as nothing but a waste. Sad.

"Liberal" Communists/Socialists
What I don't understand is why this pond scum is so hell bent on destroying the very basic premises upon which our Country is built -- and they're so "proud" to be doing so!! Let's give Communism another chance, it just wasn't funded adequately/run by the right people!! But they are the right people. Why don't you all move to France, where you can have your cars destroyed by poor, under-opportuned Muslims. Or England, where if you confront a thief in your home in the middle of the night YOU get prosecuted! Or in Cana-DUH where your checkups and (counterfeit?) scripts are "free", but an MRI when you have a heart problem may be NINE MONTHS AWAY? You're idiots and should all be herded into camps and held until the war is over. Keep telling it like it is Michelle!!

Moderate Mark
"How sad, where can a liberal go for some fun these days..

How about on the freeway during rush hour..

To the sick children...
...who have intruded. Adults are talking. Run along before you embarrass yourselves further.

Good Grief
Why are you all botherig with the trolls? I scrolled past most of the posts including our side. It does about as much good as saying you are not voting at all in November, will sit it out. Didn't you read anything Michelle wrote?
I agree with her, I will NOT punish my congressional candidate because the fools that run the RNC are stuck on stupid. I haven't yet decided how I will address the POTUS slot, except that I have calmly (took a day of washing kitchen walls to calm me down Tuesday) decided that I will NOT vote McCain but I won't punish the rest of the good candidates I have. Congress is at an all time low, we can take advantage of it if we stop pouting and start
thinking. The fix was in for McCain from the get go, but we need Conservatives in Congress and sitting home will not elect them. And
write your state chair and the RNC chair and let them know, you won't vote and why; and especially let them know about Juan Hernandez putting the lie to McCain's claims of getting our message. They are worried, otherwise they wouldn't be bringing out the big conservative guns to hold the old boy up, nor would Bob Dole have written to Rush. We have them worried and lets keep the arrogant fools worried.

It's willfully chosen ignorance---
--when people say that Reagan raised the national debt. What he raised was federal REVENUE, because tax cuts enabled industry to grow enough that even a smaller share of the bigger pie was more than a big share of a smaller pie. It was in fact the DEMOCRAT CONGRESS that spent away all the gains. As for crediting Bill Clinton with balancing the budget, he ONLY did so when a REPUBLICAN Congress dragged him to it kicking and struggling.

After all the infantile obscenity I've seen on this thread, I hesitate to say anything about Mrs. Malkin as a person. But I can make it G-rated enough that no one--even people ignorant enough to say Reagan increased the debt--will confuse me with the potty-mouths. What I want to say is: if Mrs. Malkin were single and I were single, she wouldn't have to wait very long to get another proposal of marriage!

THE PRIDE OF LIFE!

I'm even more convinced my vote for Romney was'nt a mistake. But I'm truelly red in the face as a christian that a mormon had to demonstrate to a former baptist true humbleness!

Jayrey,
I'm not surprised at all that Romney showed more honor than Huckabigot.

All that classless jackass was trying to do was keep "the Mormon" out of the White House.

Laura Bush
When you are finally socially promoted from the government high school that I assume you must attend, perhaps the reality of dealing with an actual job and paying real taxes to support your miserable lifestyle will cause you to reconsider the course you are currently choosing.

Put the joint down, put the wine aside for a second, there's more to life than fun and games.

McCain
The problem is that there is a changing of the guard in the GOP....the Cigar and Brandy Club of elitists have been in power too long. Now they see their power evaporating.

Rush, Sean, Laura, Shcafly , Malkin and Coulture did everything they could to stop McCain...but the average GOP member voted for McCain.

The reality is that the neandercon wing of the party is becoming irrevelant and they cant stand it.

Rinos of the world unite you have nothing to lose but the neandercon!!!!!!!!

NATIONAL VETERANS COALITION ...
The NATIONAL VETERANS COALITION is the veterans political arm of the Constitution party (the fastest growing political party and the largest third party in America today).
The NVC was founded by Brig. Gen. Charles Jones III, USAFR, (ret.)who said, "If our military veterans can't save this country by restoring constitutional government then I don't know who can".
The mission of the NVC is to recruit veterans and their families and friends to help mobilize
the nation's 26 million veterans into a powerful voting bloc, within the Constitution party.
There plans are to register everyone they know in the C.P and support and vote for C.P. candidates nationwide.
The NVC will focus on 6 main points..REALLY securing the borders,a strong defense,Punish employers who hire illegal aliens,abolishing the IRS and the Federal Income Tax, Eliminate Taxpayer subsidies for illegal aliens, and establish energy independence. The NVC/CP believes in no more no-win Un-declared wars.
There is speculation that Sen. Bob Smith (Vietnam Veteran)or Jerome Corsi will seek the 2008 Presidential Nomination of the Constitution party in Kansas City in April 2008. Go to http://www.nvets.org -Larry Breazeale, Msgt. (ret.) USAFR, Vice Chairman NVC/CP,
Vietnam/Desert Storm veteran

Count me in
VICE CHAIRMAN NVC/CP writes: 1:27 AM
NATIONAL VETERANS COALITION ...
The NATIONAL VETERANS COALITION is the veterans political arm of the Constitution party (the fastest growing political party and the largest third party in America today).
------

Oh wait, I joined two years ago.
Just hoping to see it grow enough numbers we can rid the country of the choice between two evils.
A democrat or a republican, yuk

McNutt!
It's going to be hard for me to pull lever for him,he's never met a Mexican National he didn't like and theres the rub. Him or the DemiRats what a choice NOT!


Pro Patria!

Contract with Republicans
Conservatives unite! We had a Contract with America that brought Republicans control of Congress and forced Clinton to abandon his socialist ways and sign conservative bills. Now we the people of these United States need to have a Contract with Republicans and if our candidates do not sign it or enforce our contract once in office then we boot them out! I sent this idea to several conservative leaders and am asking all conservatives to do the same. We will not vote for McCain, but our voice can be heard with electing Representatives, state, and local leaders that will be conservative to help us thwart socialism which is on the way! Let's keep conservatism alive and well with this Contract. I could post my proposed Contract, but I prefer the idea to be pushed to our leaders. If y'all want an example let me know.

Conservatives and Conservatism are relevant!!!!!

the plus side

Conservatives have a tremendous opportunity in 2012.


Whether we are in a Hillary, Obama, or McCain regime for the next 4 years, we all know it is going to be a disaster.

Add to the fact that our country is headed toward an economic depression in the near term, which would occur EVEN IF one of those three stooges were not sitting in the White House.

Our country will be in such a mess in 2012, conservatives will have an excellent chance to win that year's elections.

There are areas of concern, however:

1). will our country be so damaged by 2012 that we no longer have elections?

2). will the public decide that the answer to an economic depression brought about partially by government interference in the economy is more socialism? (our economic crisis is caused by two things- anti free-market policies (e.g. Federal Reserve manipulation of monetary policy) and mother nature (Peak Oil))

McCain

One thing that ought to be a concern for McCain is:

Some Republicans who oppose McCain will be voting for the Democratic candidate.

I will be one of them, if there is any risk that McCain might win the presidency.


Some will think that those of us who would vote for Hillary or Obama are simply sore losers.


However, that is not at all the case in my case. I have no personal hatred for McCain, I simply believe a McCain presidency would be a grave threat to the future of the United States.

Far more so than a Hillary or Obama presidency.

Why?

BECAUSE MCCAIN WOULD HAVE A FAR BETTER CHANCE OF GETTING HIS AGENDA PASSED IN CONGRESS. HE WOULD HAVE ALL THE DEMOCRATS ON HIS SIDE AND SOME OF THE REPUBLICANS. OBAMA AND HILLARY WOULD HAVE MOST BUT NOT ALL OF THE DEMOCRATS BEHIND THEM, AND VERY FEW REPUBLICANS.

As one example, passage of an amnesty bill is a genuine threat if McCain is in the White House. We might still be able to stop it, like we did with George Bush, but McCain might have enough political capital to get it through.

Clinton or Obama would not. And they might not even try very hard to pass an amnesty bill. Because they won't have a Republican in the White House to pin the blame on when our society erupts into utter chaos as a result of anarchy legislation.

so my point is

So my point is:

Even though McCain is far less liberal than Hillary or Obama:

THE LEGISLATIVE RESULTS OF A MCCAIN ADMINISTRATION ARE LIKELY TO BE FAR MORE LIBERAL THAN THOSE OF A HILLARY OR OBAMA ADMINISTRATION.

If you DO NOT want a liberal agenda to prevail in the next presidential term, DO NOT vote for McCain.

so here's the choice

So here's the choice:


1). Under a McCain administration, we wind up with a far more liberal legislative outcome than under an Obama or Hillary administration.

2). To add insult to injury, the public will blame the Republicans for the failed McCain administration.


Thus, in 2012, a liberal Democrat will win the White House because the public will blame the Republicans for an administration whose legislative record will have been MORE LIBERAL than would have happened under a Democratic administration.


Thus you can see that a McCain presidency is a lose-lose proposition for conservatives.

but another consideration

One factor people don't talk about much regarding immigration legislation is the economy.


We have had all this illegal immigration because we have been in an economic bubble.

People have been in such a frenzy that they haven't cared that millions of illegal aliens are crossing into the country.

And remember the tech bubble, when all sorts of phony jobs were created in tech companies?

Well, in the housing bubble, millions of phony jobs have been created in areas like home building. The construction jobs are ones that the illegal aliens have sufficient skills to be able to do.

So we have had a surge of millions of phony jobs that got created in real estate and related industries.

Now those phony jobs are evaporating.


It was one thing when we had a low unemployment rate even with millions of illegal aliens, because there were plenty of phony jobs to go around.

But now the phony jobs are evaporating and the unemployment rate is going up.


American workers are not going to tolerate being out of work when there are illegal aliens in this country that have jobs.

The window of opportunity for the folks who want open-borders anarchy legislation is closing as the economy deteriorates. No matter who gets elected President.

Supreme Court!!!
What kind of justices will Obama or Clinton appoint? We stand a better chance w/ McCain appointing at least a moderate to the bench. I don't like the thought of voting for him, but it's better than a dem. President and a dem. Congress putting a left-wing nut, like Janet Reno, on the Supreme Court!

bot_feeder, illegals, and economics
Our Libs love saying that illegals help our economics.
Such a B.S.
Each Illegal costs to taxpayers at least $28,000. How it helps us?

Just a few facts:

1 .$11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on
welfare to illegal aliens each year.

2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such
as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens.
Center for Immigration Studies

3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens.
Center for Immigration Studies

4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school
education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of
English!
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP.../01/ldt.0.html

5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the
American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies.
CNN.com - Transcripts

6. 30% of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens.
http://transcripts.cnncom/TRANSCRIPTS/06 04/01/ldt.01.html

7. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare
and social services by the American taxpayers.
CNN.com - Transcripts

8. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused
by the illegal aliens;
CNN.com - Transcripts

9. The National Policy Institute "estimated that the total cost of mass
deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of
between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period."
http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.o...eportation.pdf

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Conclusions?

I have no doubt different people will come to different conclusions.

But my conclusion is based on love to THIS country.

Love to WHAT country is your conclusion based on?



How to avoid GOP catastrophy
McCain is now the only factual nominee.
Objectively, neither Romney nor Huckabee have any chance to get roughly 80% needed to be competitive.
Thus, they are out. Period.
Among those who were running the race, only Romney can be called a real Conservative (with all his inconsistencies.)

So, who do we have now?
No options. Just J.McCain.

What alternatives?
Billary and Barak Hussein Obama.

Obama is very consistent with his alleged "Moslemhood": to withdraw our troops from Iraq (and possibly Afghanistan) is exactly what Muslim terrorists want.

Billary, even they are slightly less rabid lefty in comparison with Bar-ak(a) Hussein, would be a gigantic step toward further perversion of our Constitution by super-liberal judges they definitely will appoint and Socialization of our country. Meaning - unavoidable decay.

So, what America loving Americans should do?

Play on McCain ambitions to become our President and bombard him with demands to strip off his love to Libs and turn his face to non-Bolshevik Americans - Conservative Republicans.

He must understand that the honor to serve Americans as a President should be deserved by understanding of not only his own personal wishes and ambitions but of the actual needs of the country.

His recent pacts with Libs don't proof that demand.
We have to force him understanding.

if you just tuned in...
... don't miss Michelle's excellent points here... while Amnesty John might go down in flames, we MUST also think about electing true conservatives (not RINO's like Presidente Jorge Bush and Amnesty Juan McVain) to Congress and to state level positions. Things went fairly well under Slick Willie BECAUSE Republicans in congress made them so.

The open border/embrace amigos, RINO and profligate spending types have sullied the Repub. brand, but we need to correct the course and rally behind Mitt or someone for 4 years from now.

re (from Michelle):
**********************************************
"Some on the right advise their readers and listeners to vote Democrat or sit home. My advice is exactly the opposite: Get off the couch and walk the walk for conservative candidates and officeholders who need all the help they can get defending free markets, free minds and secure borders -- no matter who takes the White House in November."

Further about GOP problems
What are the most difficult problems for GOP?

War and Illegal Immigration issues.

If it would be the War issue only, GOP wouldn't be suffering dramatic losses we are witnessing now.
Why?
Because only complete idiots like that Commie Medea Benjamin of Code Pink and the likes can insist on an immediate withdrawal from Iraq without understanding of consequences. I’m sorry: Obama - too?

People with brain do understand catastrophic consequences even if they didn't like our invasion of Iraq in general.

So, the War issue today implies possible compromises.

To be continued...


Further about GOP problems, 2
Continuation:

What doesn’t imply any compromises is the Illegal Penetration issue.
The Illegal Immigration issue is Dems' "joker in the pack."
The real reason Dems love illegals is the illegals inclination to Bolsheviks.
Just recall the demonstrating hordes with countless sickle-and-hammer flags and portraits of Che Guevara, the Bolshevik Murder-in-Chief of Latinos.
All these are VOTES for Dems. Who cares that those votes are mostly fraudulent!

In their frantic wish to stay in Power, Dems will spend any money on illegals' welfare just to hold them available.

So, what we have to do?
Information is the only answer.
The information that is persistently hidden from us.
What information?
We are being fed daily with "information" about how good Illegals are for our economics, their families, and their countries (such a tender concern for prosperity of countries supplying us with narcotics and problems!)

But we don’t see much information of what illegals mean to OUR country - how much they and their so-called "cheap labor" cost to all of us; how much problems they bring to the country on the top of our own internal problems (why should we need additional "imported" problems is beyond my apprehension.)

And the main thing:
Because of lack of real information, not many of us realize that the Dems illegals' joker is a very smart way they invented to BOLSHEVISMIZE our country.
And this danger is very real.

Should I remind that our "iron" McCain recently embraced "fluff" Ed Kennedy in their passionate love to illegals?

Ann Coulter's speech at CPAC and GOP
I just listened to Ann Coulter's speech at CPAC and, among everything else, was thrilled with her saying that Republican voters make less research on the candidates they are going to vote for than when they are purchasing a car.

This is exactly my point I expressed in my posts:
we common voters have not enough information of the candidates AND THE PROBLEMS our candidates have to solve in the case they were elected.

Dems, true adherents of Bolsheviks/Nazis' propaganda methods, are perfectly aware of the power of both PROPAGANDA and LACK OF TRUE INFORMATION.

Republicans and sympathizers arrogantly disdain and turn up their noses at propaganda and true real information. Or, at least, underestimate the importance of deep information and thorough analysis for the public.

And lose.

This is exactly how Bush with his advisers lost the major part of the Nation support.

Taking into account that the so-called mainstream media (such an impudent self-naming "mainstream"!) are not only absolutely dishonest but also extremely biased and very smart spreading their foam of brainwashing, we common voters should do whatever is possible to spread the real information about ideological differences between Dems and Republicans, about the essence of problems the country is facing (not those numerous imaginary problems Dems adore cooking artificially,) about consequences of any particular steps undertaken by both parties and representatives.




Juan McCain
if Juan McCain becomes El Presidente, many Senate Republicans will support his amnesty bill. If Obama or Clinton become President, Republican Senator's will oppose the idea of amnesty.

So, if you want to protect the sovereignty of the U.S. do not vote for el mavericko, Juan McCain.

OK, Michelle.
Well put. Actually I'd rather give to the Club for Growth than the RNC anyway.

Media trashed the only true conservative
Michelle Malkin,
Why do you give Ron Paul a hard time? Is it because of your relationship with Fox news? Is it hard for people who write for a living to say they may have made a mistake? I made a mistake when I voted for Bush Jr. the first time, because of his stand as a globalist, on immigration, North American Community, Super Nafta Highway, Patriot act, no child left behind, and with two Border Patrol Agents sitting in prison after shooting a Mexican dope dealer in the butt. We need an American President! We don't need a repeat performance.
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put
darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter
for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"
Isaiah 5:20,

what upland, patriot?
This advice is pure spite and white supremacist:

If Juan McCain becomes El Presidente, many Senate Republicans will support his amnesty bill. If Obama or Clinton become President, Republican Senator's will oppose the idea of amnesty.

So, if you want to protect the sovereignty of the U.S. do not vote for el mavericko, Juan McCain.

Dear UPLOON Patriot,
He is NOT Juan; he can give us amnesty (at last resort) if he wins the presidency, and nobody needs Kooks like you to "protect" anything. Just keep in miind that our country of 300millions is not in danger of losing its sovereignty because YOU & other white supremacists get those hairs up your @ss about 12 million undocumented workers in our nation, of whom maybe 8 million are Mejicanos. John McCain doesn't even need your vote; I seem to think we heard him say, "Let her stick it up there where the Sol never shines at her. Lol!

Taking Action
Sorry, but I'm not about to take this lying down.
Democrats will do anything to regain power. They cannot win fair elections, so they pull the most devious underhanded schemes imaginable to try and steal them. You can Google "election fraud" for proof, or you can simply work the polls with them and experience the self-righteous criminal devisivness, first hand. Republicans keep compromising, keep looking the other way, keep giving up ground. Now look where we are: Democrats have corrupted our leadership, undermined our primary election process, forwarded one of their own puppets as OUR presidential nominee, deprived our party of faithful representation, and we just sit here and take it?? Our country is at a tipping point. The only thing that need happen to push us over the edge is four years of insane liberal lunatic leadership. We are facing powerful enemies bent on the destruction of our Constitutional Republic. These are not just foreign threats, but very real threats from Democrats, ravenous for power, determined to lead our country down the path of Socialism, and John McCain is one of them; not because he believes in Socialism..because he is a disloyal, back-biting, opportunistic RINO, who will stop at nothing to gain power. If we do not reject this imposter forced on us by the main stream media, unaffiliated voters, ruthless, conniving Democrats, and the irresponsible RNC leadership through a reckless, mismanaged and failed primary, then we have truly lost our way. I would rather be in the fight.
http://www.fairprimary.org/

YOUR ONLY REAL CHOICE FOR 2008...
Chuck Baldwin for President and Darrell Castle for V.P., on the Constitution party 2008 ticket. Chuck was very active in the Ron Paul campaign. Darrell, a USMC Vietnam veteran and now Memphis attorney will be hitting hard on the illegal immigration and real border security issues. The CP platform is against any perpitual no-win un-declared wars. The CP and its candidates believe in America First, no more illegal foreign aid and no to ANY North American Union scheme with Canada and Mexico.
Veterans, families and friends unite! Go to http://www.nvets.org...."veterans, families and friends putting AMERICA FIRST at the ballot box". -Larry Breazeale, Msgt. (ret.) USAF,
Vietnam/Desert Storm veteran,
Nat. Chrm. NATIONAL VETERANS COALITION,
Constitution party
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