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Wednesday, November 28, 2007
Michelle Malkin :: Townhall.com Columnist
Fuzzy Math: A Nationwide Epidemic
by Michelle Malkin
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Do you know what math curriculum your child is being taught? Are you worried that your third-grader hasn't learned simple multiplication yet? Have you been befuddled by educational jargon such as "spiraling," which is used to explain why your kid keeps bringing home the same insipid busywork of cutting, gluing and drawing? And are you alarmed by teachers who emphasize "self-confidence" over proficiency while their students fall further and further behind? Join the club.

Across the country, from New York City to Seattle, parents are wising up to math fads like "Everyday Math." Sounds harmless enough, right? It's cleverly marketed as a "University of Chicago" program. Impressive! Right? But then you start to sense something's not adding up when your kid starts second grade and comes home with the same kindergarten-level addition and subtraction problems -- for the second year in a row.

And then your child keeps telling you that the teacher isn't really teaching anything, just handing out useless worksheets -- some of which make no sense to parents with business degrees, medical degrees and Ph.D.s specializing in econometric analysis. And then you notice that it's the University of Chicago education department, not the mathematics department, that is behind this nonsense.

And then you Google "Everyday Math" and discover that countless moms and dads just like you -- and a few brave teachers with their heads screwed on straight -- have had similarly horrifying experiences. Like the Illinois mom who found these "math" problems in the fifth-grade "Everyday Math" textbook:

A. If math were a color, it would be --, because --.

B. If it were a food, it would be --, because --.

C. If it were weather, it would be --, because --.

And then you realize your child has become a victim of "Fuzzy Math," the "New New Math," the dumbed-down, politically correct, euphemism-filled edu-folly corrupting both public and private schools nationwide.

And then you feel like the subject of Edvard Munch's "The Scream" as you take on the seemingly futile task of waking up other parents and fighting the edu-cracy to restore a rigorous curriculum in your child's classroom. New York City teacher Matthew Clavel described his frustration with "Everyday Math" in a 2003 article for City Journal:

"The curriculum's failure was undeniable: Not one of my students knew his or her times tables, and few had mastered even the most basic operations; knowledge of multiplication and division was abysmal. . . . what would you do, if you discovered that none of your fourth-graders could correctly tell you the answer to four times eight?"

But don't give up and don't give in. While New York City remains wedded to "Everyday Math" (which became the mandated standard in 2003), the state of Texas just voted before Thanksgiving to drop the University of Chicago textbooks for third-graders. School board members lambasted the math program for failing to prepare students for college. It's an important salvo in the math wars because Texas is one of the biggest markets for school textbooks. As Texas goes, so goes the nation.

Meanwhile, grass-roots groups such as Mathematically Correct (mathematicallycorrect.com) and Where's The Math? (wheresthemath.com) are alerting parents to how their children are being used as educational guinea pigs. And teachers and math professionals who haven't drunk the p.c. Kool-Aid are exposing the ruse. Nick Diaz, a Maryland educator, wrote a letter to his local paper:

"As a former math teacher in Frederick County Public Schools, I have a strong interest in the recent discussion of the problems with the math curriculum in our state and county. . . . The proponents of fuzzy math claim that the new approach provides a 'deep conceptual understanding.' Those words, however, hide the truth. Students today are not expected to master basic addition, subtraction and multiplication. These fundamental skills are necessary for a truly deep understanding of math, but fuzzy math advocates are masters at using vocabulary that sounds good to parents, but means something different to educators."

Members of the West Puget Sound Chapter of the Washington Society of Professional Engineers also stepped forward in their community:

"For 35 years, we have been subjected to a failed experiment, 'new math.' Mathematics depends on individual problem-solving ability to arrive at the correct answer. Math does not lend itself to 'fuzzy' answers. The solution is to recognize the failure of the Constructivist Curriculum as it relates to mathematics and science, eliminate it and return to the hard core basics using texts like the Singapore Math."

If Fuzzy Math were a color, it would be neon green like those Mr. Yuk labels warning children not to ingest poisonous substances. Do not swallow!

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Excellent, Michelle
Apparently, there's no limit to the extent to which the liberal/leftists will go to destroy this country and its future through its children.

As I've always said: The best policy is to never let a liberal anywhere near a child - they are toxic to that child's welfare.

Say No to the NEA
Home school your children, they will learn more faster and without the indoctrination.

Sickening
Thanks Michele for the article. I have twin daughters, 15 months old, and I dread the idea of sending them to a government school.

You and Mike Adams should collaborate on a book about our dwindling education systems at all levels. And please give us some recommendations of schools that haven't been drinking the koolade.

Twenty years ago....
my wife and I found that one of our sons had been taught numerous ways to graph what numbers represented, without learning the math that produced the numbers, nor to read at grade-level. We switched schools, and he was on-track by the end of that school year. We had allowed someone to convice us (This IS the SF Bay Area!)that the "enlightened, fresh" methods of that first school were just what this son needed, compared to the "traditional" second school's methods, where his older siblings had excelled, as I had a generation earlier. It's depressing to realize that I'm not shocked that things have gotten worse elsewhere.

Grubby
You're exactly right. If the liberals cared about children's educations, then they would not oppose vouchers so vigorously. There is nothing that unions hate more than competition, unless it's actually doing work!

BTW, CHECK my follow-up on lib bonehead Naomi Wolf (Wolf? More like a sheep.) Also, on the Anti-Liberal Zone today is something that YOU WON'T see in the Lame Stream Media.

(Hint: It involves the UN and The Goreacle!)

Click on my handle for the gouge.

Spot on, Michelle
My wife, who is an elementary school math teacher, and I constantly express our disgust at what has become of public education. Our school district, the one in which my wife teaches and one of our sons attends, just recently purchased the Everyday Math program.

So far it has been a disaster. Test scores which were marginal before Everyday Math, have dropped even further. Unfortunately such faddish curricular lemons are not easily replaced once they prove ineffectual. The initial purchase price often runs $100,000+.

Our youngest son is enrolled in an online virtual academy. We marvel at how sensibly and well thought out the curriculum is. It is a mastery based program, not a shoddy flavor du jour disaster. Public schools could learn a lot from this particular virtual academy.

Fightr4right
Can you post the link for this academy? Kudos to you for taking the extra step! We've been supplying our kids with workbooks to supplement what p*ss-poor stuff the schools teach them. They did not like it at first but now, when they can see the fruits of the labor, that it puts them ahead of the game, they understand the need for it.

If It Ain’t Broke-Don’t Fix It!
What is it about PC imbeciles that they feel they need to change everything in the educational realm? Having screwed up the more subjective curriculums, and running out of things to change, now they have turned their eyes to changing the hard sciences. What a bunch of nonsense!

PC diddling in the soft sciences is bad enough, but tinkering with the hard sciences is absurd. Left to their own devices, PC educators would insist that there is no wrong answer to a mathematical question. Billy thinks 2+2=5 and Sally thinks the moon is made out of blue-cheese; but, don’t correct them, we don’t want to hurt their feelings!

I consider it a great disservice to push PC BS at the expense of preparing youth for the educational challenges ahead!

I don’t understand how these PC morons get away with infesting our youth with such BS; they should all be run out of the educational system into jobs more appropriate to their level of reasoning; like cleaning barns!

http://klintons.com

Sure, Gunny
http://www.ohva.org This is for Ohio Virtual Academy. But they are chartered in most states. I think they're based in VA.


Here, I think this is the comprehensive website that will provide options in your state: http://www.k12.com

Math is --
It's like learning to use a screw driver -- you don't really need to know screw theory or the concept of "screwness" to think critically about, when all you really need is to tell a Phillips from a standard and righty-tighty.

I have a masters in Comp Sci, and like number and graph theory as much as the next guy, but I don't think 99% of grade school kids will get much from it.

For once I actually agree
I was over-educated in math. I never use calculus (well at least not in decimal), but my nephew made it to high school and still didn't know his multiplication tables.

Thanks to my father and me, he does now.

This is not a Left/Right issue. This is a dumbing down of the masses by the elites. It makes leading by the nose so much easier.

Sonny Perdue Must Stop Kathy Cox
Georgia’s State Superintendent of Schools, Kathy Cox, has imposed a dramatically different high school math curriculum without properly reviewing it with teachers and parents. She is replacing the traditional structure (Algebra I & II, Geometry, Trigonometry, and Calculus) with vaguely-titled Math 1, Math 2, and Math 3.

There are currently four math tracks available to high school students. They vary in difficulty to accommodate a broad range of math abilities. Under Cox’s proposed change, freshmen, sophomores, and juniors will now only have two tracks (Math 1 and Advanced Math 1, Math 2 and Advanced Math 2…). Cox’s new mandate may be well intended-but the devil’s in the details.

Lobbyist-Driven Education Policies

READ MORE

http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/sonny-perdue-must- stop-kathy-cox


Math
I have always loved mathematics. I never had to worry that if I added two plus two more that it might equal something other than four. I knew that if I divided 100 by 5 that the answer would always be 20. 2 times 6 is always 12. There is never any gray area in mathematics. Scientists, engineers, architects,civilizations, you and me, depend on the undeniable truths of mathematics. No one can say that if a student adds 5 plus 5 and gets anything other than 10 that the student is still correct. In the kind of government schools with the incompetents that rule there, there is no place for that kind of subject.

MUCH NEEDED AWARENESS
Until my kids went into private Catholic High School, they never understood math without it being turned into a convaluted affair. Its funny, they are like "NOW I understand algebra! Its not that hard to understand".

Invest in your kids education...We stupidly bought this "constructionist" education because it was being sold to us a an environmentally scientific grade school centered on math and science that taught in various ways on each subject to hit all kinds of learners, when it really is an Al Gore-like indoctrination school for greenies in the last year when they were thankfully graduating..

TG my kids are raised in a conservative household that gave them the wearwithall to look at some things with a logical eye and see thru its sillyness and cull the goodness of a small school, but not buy into the idoltry..

Fightr4right
Thanks, I'll pass it on.

USMC Lt.
Thanks. Naomi Wolf is a blithering liberal idiot who gave the worse interview I've ever seen (other than Hitlery at the debates). Just using her to make a point that liberal women, while they may be good-looking, are vapid airheads, no matter their education level. If you watch the video, I posted the link, you'll be LYMFAO!

I'll take a smart good-looking conservative chick like Michelle, Laura, or Ann anyday.

What We Learned in 1984
1+1=3

Call it stupid, but don't call it fuzzy

Fuzzy math....
After 48 years in higher education, this is what I've seen again and again: Fuzzy ideas are pursued with passion, then abandoned after several years (forced busing; whole word vs phonics), only to return under a new and appealing label (think of a seesaw). Teaching methods based on science are outlawed or ignored in favor of "practical" solutions. Add political correctness, and you get fuzzy math--and a host of close cousins to follow.

Prophet of Math Education
Dr. Morris Kline wrote extensively on just this subject in the 50's and 60's.' Why Johnny can't Add', and 'Why Professors can't Teach'. He was laughed at then. If anyone is at all serious about attacking this problem then I can think of a better place to start.

The problem has so deepened since then. Most parents are products of this debacle and are themselves helpless to deliver their own children. And the fact is the parents are essential in the learning process. My goodness parents are suppose to train their children to study correctly. If they don't know to study how will can they pass it on.

And learning math is built on two major pillors. Being taught correctly and studying correctly. Without these it's nothing but a lot of lala.


I disagree
It is not necessarily a left/right issue...EXCEPT that when you consider WHO is so concerned about not letting Johnny fail, or hurting Johnny's self-esteem. One better see that it is not the conservatives who are making it so a child doesn't have to accept his own failures or be responsible for his success and meeting his potential.
My son is a great example of that. He turned a geometry project in late. He was not even afraid of it being late..."only a five point penalty". When he came home with a C, I promptly made him re-do the whole project and asked him who was at fault for his grade. To which I got a lame excuse...Then I asked him about his Dad working on a billion dollar project proposal that was dependent on his finishing with punctuality. I asked him what what he thought would happen to Dad if Dad decided he "just couldn't get it done?" He replied,"He would get fired." (And, voila. No money, no food, no car, no fun.He would let us all down)
His job I told him, was school. I asked nothing of him but good grades. So then, if he wanted to let himself and his future family down, fine. I also told him to consider what it would be like to be paying for his own college, because with hsi current attitude, I wold not assist him in his lazy endeavors...he would have to waste his own time and money.
I asked him again, who was at fault for his grade. "I am." I will never make excuses for my children when I give them every tool to succeed. But this is what the left is doing, by dumbing down everything from the SATs, to math, to english and anything else they can...

Prophet of Math Education,
After Proof read, apology

Dr. Morris Kline wrote extensively on just this subject in the 50's and 60's.' Why Johnny can't Add', and 'Why Professors can't Teach'. He was laughed at then. If anyone is at all serious about attacking this problem I can think of no better place to start.

The problem has so deepened since then. Most parents are products of this debacle and are themselves helpless to deliver their own children. And the fact is the parents are essential in the learning process. My goodness parents are suppose to train their children to study correctly. If they don't know how to study how can they pass it on.

And learning math is built on two major pillors. Being taught correctly and studying correctly. Without these it's nothing but a lot of lala.

Sad but true
Between No Child Left Behind ( translation-keep it simple for the stupid ) and liberal nonsense like *everyday math* we are in a world of hurt. There are students graduating from law school that can't balance a check book. Why? Because the bank deals in absolutes, not what color your bank account is.

I have children aged 23, 16 and 12. I can't remember which one came home in the fourth grade with math that I had NO CLUE how to do. I had never seen anything like it in my life! It appeared that there was no definitive answer to any question, just subjective ones. I remember writing on the paper to the teacher that I had no idea what was on that paper but it wasn't MATH!

Scary thought, but I am certain that this is a deliberate attempt to create youseful idiots out of our children.

Math is not the only subject
The entire structure of education has been treated exactly the same way. Social engineers took over the education system almost a century ago, and changed schools from effective educators of young minds into factories churning out lock-step moral relativists.

I read a book a few years ago entitled "How I Accidentally Joined the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy (and Found Inner Peace)" by a free-lance journalist named Harry Stein. Among other things, Stein included an ENTRANCE examination for Jersey City High School from the 1860s. I have a Master's Degree from a major university. I could not have passed the test. To ENTER high school.

We don't realize just how thoroughly and dramatically the social progressives have demolished education because we don't have anything to compare it to.

Winning a war against one, bad math curriculum won't do the trick. It's better than nothing, but it's just one battle, and we don't even realize that there's a war. Vouchers are an indispensable first step, and home schooling is a side-step that puts us in the right direction, but it's imperative that we break free from the influence of educational progressives. They're the devil.

GunnyG
From the moment I first saw ding-a-ling Naomi on TV YEARS ago I've known that she was the product of university liberalism and is disconnected with reality. I don't know how her husband stands her. Say a prayer for the man.

P.S. I'll bet she sits on him when he misbehaves.

screaming in ohio
I copied articles from "Mathematically Correct" web site and took them to our superintendent three years ago. I showed everyone who would listen.

Result: greasy smiles from "those that are Education professionals" and Everyday Math.


...But if you really want to get mad, read the study book for the Ohio Graduate Test. You will find that the "shameful" part of WWII was our treatment of American Japanese, not the death of our soldiers....

FALSE PRIORITIES
Data from 2006 or 2005:
American students - number one in self esteem!!!
American students - absolutely last in math.


traitorous republicans
What color might he be? Green with envy that he can say nothing of substance to another fine article by Michele.

Vouchers!
Vouchers, vouchers.

Traditional math=White Male Oppression
Embrace the new math! We all know that tradional math, as exemplified by this equation:

2+2=4

is only a tool of the White Male Patriarchy, to oppress minorities, including African-Americans, undocumented workers, our gay-lesbian-transgendered brothers, er, uh or sisters, uh, ah, or its--and anyone else.

Science and math are certainly political, as the Left's intellectual great uncles, the Nazis, told us. Remember? They declared that the cornerstone of modern physics, Einstein's theory of relativity, to be Jewish science, and therefore, wrong and not worthy of study.

No one should be surprised that we now have this kind of nonsense. The '60s generation became professors and teachers, and have raised successive generations of radicalized teachers, imbued with Marxist thought, and they are teaching our kids.

You who have voted for Democrats for the last 40 years, please tell me that you're surprised.

Hillary delenda est.

traitorous republicans
"michelle malkin
is an anchor baby. "



Michelle Malkin's parents are legal immigrants, just like mine are, you stupid f**.

GunnyG
Your 3 questions to the Goreacle are priceless. I bet he can't answer one of them.

Feelings, nothing more than Feelings...
Sorry, but this is idiotic. there's nothing "Deep" or "conceptual" about math. Math is a hard science. It cannot be understood by philosophising, or psychoanalyzing or whatever. It doesn't matter whether Pythagoras was gay or Newton was insane or Leibnitz stole someone else's ideas. Math is not literature, it is not philosophy, it is not sociology, it is not "art". It is not something where the feelings, politics, religion, or attitudes of the people who discovered theorems or proofs have anything to do with the truth or accuracy of them.

Two and Two is Four, Dos y Dos es Cuatro, Deux et Deux est Quatre, Zwei und Zwei ist Vier. It doesn't matter where you are from. It doesn't take deep, conceptual psychobabble to determine this. It's absolute. It doesn't change. It isn't open to interpretation. We won't wake up one day and find that two and two is five, no matter how much the New York Times and Tom Cruise and the Supreme Court and Hillary Clinton and V. Gene Robinson may say it is so.

If you don't teach it right, you don't teach it at all. Never mind being unprepared for college, kids who can't do basic math won't be prepared to work at Mc Donald's.

Where do these kids go?
I noticed a long time ago that the average teenager has no ability to make change anymore. If the cash register doesn't tell them the answer, they are lost. And god forbid if you find that extra quarter after they've entered the numbers into the machine. The ability to do even basic addition and subtraction in the head is completely lost.

All of which makes me wonder what these kids will be doing for a living, and what the future will look like when our engineers and technicians can't even do basic math, let alone anything truly complicated.

buzzkat
why do you bother with that nug, t r? It is not worth the finger effort on your keyboard!

Happy Jake
That's why the registers that tell you how much change to give back were invented.

justpaul
That's why I believe we are in for a world of hurt.

traitorous rep.
Michelle maybe be an anchor baby--but she is smart.

You are a moron--and i think most would rather be like her.

Anchor Baby?
Michelle is sooooo hot, and you know males drool over her right TR? So what does it signify when you call her that? GunnyG yea right! 3 sheets? You mean 3 rolls for that arse right? LoL

Free Ramos and Compean
If we can’t have HOME SECURITY first, the rest just don’t matter!
Hunter/Tancredo 2008!
http://www.gohunter08.com
http://www.ontheissues.org/Duncan_Hunter.htm
Hunter’s best quote: Move away from the Ted Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party. (Jun 2007)
To libs there is no lie, it is expedient exaggeration!

buzzkat
TR is an a**hat that posts that crapola every Wed. Please ig the mook. We're hoping that the child goes elsewhere to play.

maschrom
I saw here for the first time the other night. What a waste of higher education and skin.

Parents: Solve the problem yourselves
The experts have led us down this path and they will never admit they are wrong. Get the Saxon books and teach your own children.
By the way, get the Saxon books published before 2008 ones from a used book store because Saxon has recently been bought out by a major publisher and they are already beginning to make changes.

Yes, the school system is
now worthless cr*p full of PC nothing. We have been bemoaning that fact here on Townhall for a long time and the facts do not change. What we need is for people to vote for school board members who will change things and who are NOT members of the NEA. We need to get the federal government and the unions out of the schools. We also need to get people in charge of the curriculum who are NOT graduates of education schools. This is where this liberal BS comes from.

And finally, to all of you folks who are posting responses to TR. You should know by now that he posts the anchor baby sh!t on every MM column even as he knows it is a lie. Responding to him only gives him what he wants and encourages him to post more drivel. Ignore him and he will crawl back under the bridge he came out of.

justpaul
I had to tell a kid what change to give me yesterday when the register went down. I was LMAO at the moron. Then I felt sorry for him, because it probably isn't his fault. Its the school system that did it to him. SAD, very sad.

Maschroom
No, that's why registers that actually GIVE you the change back were invented.

I do take your point however, and I should revise my statement. The people who work at the McDonalds' I have gone to can't even count high enough to ensure that I get my whole order (I order three things and get two, that sort of thing.) And yet, they are employeed.

Tree
One would think that people would stop listening to libturds after that moron Doc Spock destroyed a generation of kids with his "kinder-gentler" child rearing techniques.

TR
And your point is...?

SSGT
I've been a proponent for vouchers and year-long schools and have taken much flak from teachers over it and some parents! I HATE IT that my kids have a summer off. Why? There is no harvest to bring in. Then they go back only to spend the first two months in REVIEW of last year!

Of course, the politicians send THEIR kids to the finest schools around. If THEIR kids had to go to a public school, this would change overnight.

that's a pretty sad state of affairs.
great job michelle. that's a sad state of affairs. but there's always hope. i love your reading your stuff. your always right on topic.! jon

Nothing surprising here
For decades, ever since the teacher's unions gained control, the quality of education in this country has deteriorated. The insistence that "self-esteem" of the the student must trump performance in the classroom has been used as an excuse by teachers to not do their jobs for years.

The problem has been exacerbated by the refusal to expel troublemakers and others who are disciplinary problems.

It was bad enough when the NEA/AFT was trying to tell us it was OK if Johnny thought 2+2 equalled 5. Now they're trying to tell it's OK if 2+2 equals blue.

Idiotic.

As a practicing engineer I can tell you true horror stories of guys with engineering degrees and 3.8 grade point averages who had no clue where to begin to solve an actual engineering problem in the real work world until some one showed them how to apply the formulas they learned in college to the problem.

But instead of taking real math to the next level and showing kids how to apply it real life, the NEA/AFT subverts the concept by refusing to even teach basic arithmetic and then calling it "Everyday math".

There is no day in which 2+2=blue. Or any other color.

Exception
How refreshing, another good piece by Michelle Malkin, on a very important subject, and it has only drawn one moronic comment so far. Oh, and the advice to ignore the ignoramus should be heeded, no direct responses of any sort.

you tell it like it is.
you tell it like it is. people could learn from you. your my fave.! love jon

Anchor baby
This question may mark me as slightly ignorant, but what exactly is an anchor baby? I've never heard the phrase before, I've only seen it in the inane posts by traitorous republican.

What's Really Scary
...is that people like TR may actually have the right to vote

Woody from Iowa

GunnyG
Have you heard about the nurse in Mass. that wants to make spanking a crime? She's trying to get a law passed. Apparently some of her childs friends made the BIG mistake of sharing with her child that they were spanked on occasion. Apparently this libs *idea* is to have a # where kids can call to tattle on their parents at which point a cop shows up and arrests mom, dad or both. SUPER! And the IDIOT liberals can't begin to fathom why there is a juvenile delinquency problem in America.

TR
Check my blog, I believe that scientists just uncovered WTF happened to you!

Kudos for Michelle
Good column.

I have always believed we must abolish colleges of education in our universities.

Alot of this garbage on new "approaches" to math emanate from there.

Math instruction for prospective teachers should be provided within the college of arts and sciences in our universities.

Colleges of education promote alot of half-baked "theories" on education, importance of self esteem, multiculturalism, while sacrificing or eliminating courses specific to the curriculum of a prospective teacher's major, be it science, math, etc.

Educational standards and difficulty of curriculum within colleges of education are much lower than are those within colleges of arts and sciences.

maschrom
Liberals are simply too stupid to be trusted with anything more taxing than picking up garbage, sweeping streets, and/or harvesting crops.

wiseone is wise
I forgot all about mentioning the troublemakers that get *special* treatment i.e. not a d@mn thing happens to them.

I'll never forget how my now 16 yr. old son was upset on a daily basis in Jr. high school by troublemakers who regularly upset his teacher to the point where the man would go out in the hallway to cry. The man was in his 50's and it was his first year teaching although he had wanted to be a teacher all his life. He clearly had NO IDEA what he was getting into and no tools at his disposable to deal with the troublemakers. It was a sad situation as he quit the following year.

Thank you Michelle and Texas!!!
As a mom of three gifted students in public school in Georgia, and as an engineering graduate, I have been fighting "reform math" in our district for six years. The educrats refuse to listen, because they are too busy applying for awards for being "innovative." Georgia is in a dire situation with the new High School "math" curriculum. Unless the State School Board in Georgia, along with concerned parents, can pressure Ms. Cox and Gov. Purdue into a change, an entire generation of student will no longer have well-paying math and science careers as an option. What a shame for math-inclined lower income students.

GunnyG
LOL, is that story actually bases on a real story?

Steve
Anchor baby is the child of an illegal.

Steve
Born in the US I should add.

I thought Michelle only wrote
about Media Bias? At least I've seen that accusation several times. The haters on the left must really be disappointed that can't hang-out at her column all day and spew their hatred.

I'm sure John Stossel will be a suitable substitute target today. It will be interesting to read how they try to spin that John Coleman has no credentials.

What is old is new again
Want to see how it should be done? go to your public library and ask for old texts going back to early 20th century. No frills and on point.

Don't panic...
I think that in comparison to the rest of the developed world, an American high school education has always been second best. When I was 18 I spent a short time at a high school in Seattle, in one of its wealthiest suburbs. Honestly, the student's car park must have had space for 1,000 cars. I'm not kidding. But what amazed me was the nonsense kids were getting academic credit for - when I was at school, we sat public exams at 18, very tough ones, and that was your only way of getting into university. That has changed now and there is more account taken of coursework, but the overall impression I got was that American kids were as thick as two short planks.
But before I get lynched for wwriting that, I think that American kids work a hell of a lot harder at university to catch up. There is no doubt that America produces its fair share of clever people; more than their fair share in some disciplines. The American university system is, as far as I can tell, much more demanding and I think it has one of the higest rates of further degrees of any developed nation.
When I was growing up I had the times tables practically beaten into me by my liberal parents. Thank God they did that. But as I say, I think American public education has always been poor at the high school level - but excellent at university level. So don't panic just yet.

Vic
Yeah, a hospital in RI operated on some guy's brain (the wrong side) but I figured that is how liberals are made. GOTTA BE! We've read far too much stupidity from HalD, lilly, Roberta, etc, etc, for there NOT to be a reason like that!

I mean, one viewing of Naomi Wolf's interview on Fox confirms that they are operaitng with 1/2 a brain or less.

GunnyG
Not only do they not teach math but I don't think they teach about the political process either. When my wife and I voted this past election, I had a woman in her 20's I guess ask me if they had seclected candidates for President. It floored me. I told her that they selected candidates through a primary system. It kind of surprised me that she didn't know the process of how we select candidates for president. I wasn't angry and explained the process to her. My thought was Man our education system is really screwed up if we have voting age youth who don't understand the process. God Help Us...


Feel good education...
and giving students excuses, like stress, to make them feel no responsibility to excel is making for a sad situation. Schools that hide the honor roll in order to protect the feelings of those who didn't make it doesn't take the feelings of those who did into consideration.

Pride in accomplishment is no longer encouraged through recognition. Mediocrity has become the new standard.

Equality has become an excuse that doesn't work because you can't make all students equal when it comes to ability. Equal opportunity is one thing but expecting equal ability is foolish. All this attitude does is produce a bunch of students who won't have the necessary skills to succeed when they are thrust into the real world.

covenant
Here is a link for how history USED to be written in the USA before the libscum took over. BTW, you were spot-on in your assessment.

http://www.claytoncramer.com/primary/other/bancroft.pdf

sheepdog
scary! I've already got my daughter thinking about it and she is currently reading Neal Boortz's book, "somebody's gotta say it," and LOVES IT!

GunnyG, SSGT
Good morning, gentlemen!

GunnyG: Had your blog for breakfast with my coffee, but put the coffee down before I started reading it!

SSGT: In my daughter's teacher's defense, she sent homework for her night before last, and my hubby and I, with our combined degrees, couldn't solve the last problem!! Just about killed us, too. In MY defense, the teacher told the students it was a VERY difficult problem, like the kind of problem you'll never see in real life!

LIB/SOCIALISTS JUST LOOKIN AHEAD

.....Fuzzy math is the Lib/Dem/Socialists way of preparing our children as future adults to believe that tax increases are investments in Society ...IOUs are as good as real money and inflation is something you do to blow up dolls ...

.....If tax payers can't decipher the tax code ...not to worry the IRS will do it for you and tell you how much you owe the Government ...heck just send it all in and then go on welfare ...What me Worry? .....COLOSSUS

YLG
"GunnyG: Had your blog for breakfast with my coffee, but put the coffee down before I started reading it!"

Thanks and thanks for the tip on Naomi. Well done.

I was LMMFAO doing the one on WTF happened to the libs! haha. Well, maybe we can act to prevent humans from turning into a veg-a-lib!

This Rings A Bell
When my youngest child was in eighth grade they replaced Algebra with 'Whole Math'. There was a large parent protest meeting during which a couple of math professors from the local University attacked the program using similar language to Ms. Malkin's column.They were right. Math takes application and discipline.The edu-crats dismissed our protests as the ravings of an ignorant mob. Now my daughter is at a university, struggling with classes in statistics and is being tutored by another student who went to a private school where the brutal sadists actually made the children WORK and STUDY...These New Age morons are going to convert this country into a Third World slum.

Gunny
While I do enjoy reading your rants on your blog (true), I do wish you would stop referring to yourself in the third person. Not only is it utterly pretentious, it makes you sound bonkers. The sort of thing Prince or Michael Jackson might do. Just a thought...

GunnyG
Great link, thanks.

CB
You think so? Does it bother you? Let me know.

Funny, no one else has said anything and according to my sitemeter, 35K viewers since 22 May 2007.

You're not jealous are you?

skep41
And a third world country is more easily handled by its government than a first world one, true??

Sorry to hear about your daughter, though. Maybe she can sue her school for reneging on the promise of an education! ;-)

No Teacher Left Behind
This new math curriculum was probably selected because the teacher would need less out of classroom time to grade papers or actually instruct students. What exactly is the correct "color" answers to those questions?

Our local teacher's union scheduled to strike over cost of living, step, and track raises, although the MSM only mentioned a dispute over whether the across the board COL raise was to be 2.8% or 3.3%. No mention of the "step" raise of 6% every year, or the 5-10% track raise for completing "advaned coursework". All three raises are guaranteed to every teacher regarless of their actual proficiency at educating. Even the reward for adbanced degrees only prove the teacher makes for a good student, not a good teacher. No reward for performance, no penalty for lack thereof. No competition, even among teachers. How many people not working in acedemia can get automatic raises just for punching in and punching out without any accountability for what they did during that time? Are your annual evaluations strickly based on your timecard?

Of course, if we can succeeed in raising whole generations of mathematically illiterates, then politicians can convince them that that new 23% (or is it 30%) national sales tax is really a tax cut!

Vic
Clayton Cramer is a historian and wrote the book, "Armed America" in which he beat that libturd Michael Bellesiles like a drum! If you haven't read it, I highly recommend it.

BTW, I think that we're seeing a pendulum swing in America against the p*ss-poor performance in schools and the deliberate dumbing down of our kids. Books like "1776" being huge sellers says something about Americans wanting to know their history not a revised and PC-type history.

Gunny
Of course not; as you know, I have thousands of daily readers and I move markets - which is real writing power. Still, just thought I'd tell you how utterly pretentious it is. Critical Bill likes to be helpful sometimes.

Let's use NCLB to grade teachers
If every child is tested yearly, then it should be possible to track their progress each year directly to the teacher they had. If one third grade math teacher consistently takes kids regardless of their incoming proficiency in math and raises each one up two grade levels, while the next math teacher, same school, same mix of economically and racially matched students, consistently manages to raise them up only 3 months of ability, then the second teacher should be fired or not given a raise, and the first teacher should be paid more. Sadly, in our system, the first teacher is probably fresh out of school, enthusiastic about her job, and gets out of her students what she puts in. The second teacher is probably two years from retirement, burnt out, just sticking around for that pension, but is making three times what the better performing teacher is making. That is the new math of the NEA in thinking that this is how it is supposed to add up.

CB
Nah, I ain't changing. I'm hoping that it gets to be an irritant with you! haha. Indeed, maybe there are liberals that wail and gnash their teeth over it. Anything that makes the life of a liberal miserable, I'm all over it. Hey, it's just how The Gunny is!

GunnyG
That woman is proof positive that an Ivy League education is not worth the paper it's printed on!!

My guess is the twenty year lapse is a product of the "New Math" of the seventies!

Run, Hide Your Children from EM
I've slammed Everday Math on Townhall (and elsewhere) before, but you can never slam a bad thing too much -- especially if it's being inflicted upon your children. I didn't pull my oldest out of public school because of EM, but if I had it to do over again, that alone would have constituted justification. And I'd have pulled him out earlier. Fortunately, he was young enough he was able to recover when we got him on a decent curriculum. (We use Singapore.)

For those who want to see examples of EM, here is a video of Seattle meteorologist MJ McDermott looking at algorithms as taught in two "fuzzy" math 4th and 5th grade textbooks (including EM). Watch it and weep for the kids whose parents don't care or haven't caught on to what is being taught in their schools.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr1qee-bTZI

Gunny
Nah, not irritating, just don't want you to make yourself look any dafter than you already do... see, I'm all compassion.
Tip of the day: Paulson to be the latest rat to desert the sinking ship by quitting the treasury to take the top job at Citi. You heard it here first...

YLG
HAHA! No doubt. Whatever happened to teaching facts and leaving the crap out of the school?

It's simple as 1 + 1

This fuzzy math is a way to make poor performing kids in poor performing schools feel good while they fall further behind.

Liberals love this type of stuff! Instead of bringing the lower kids up, they make up programs to keep everyone (dumbed) down.

By the way, I am 100% behind offering higher money to teachers who can show increased scores. Sadly, we DO NOT do this in schools at all, even with NCLB.

I teach, and I get evaluated on how pretty my walls are!! I am NOT kidding. The county actually sends out a person with a clipboard to make sure I have this and that on my walls. At the same time, it doesn't matter if my students improve or not.

Public education is a mess...ask any public school teacher!

Continuing Education
Here is a great link that goes a long way to explain the inherent corruption of liberals and the hatred behind the sufferers of BDS. It might help us to understand the raving moonbats who pester us here.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/11/eight_years_of_liber al_hatred.html

Universities are the problem
If the universities had an actual math requirement coming in -- if, like Plato's Academy, they had hanging over the door the sign: None May Enter Who Have Not Mastered Geometry -- then high schools, middle schools, and elementary schools would be forced to teach math in a real, vigorous fashion. So long as universities don't require incoming students to know math, the elementary schools won't teach it. To learn more, read http://www.zatavu.blogspot.com

If I had a column at Townhall, I would tell the harrowing tales of teaching in a university.

GunnyG
I have read Naomi's Latest book and I love it. I have to say from all of my research that I agree with her and that her ability to research and point out the truth of what is happening as we speak is brave and unselfish. I suggest anyone here who loves Freedom and this country and does not want to live under a Dictator to get and read Namoi Wolf's book "The Death of America-Letters to a Patriot." It is a wake up call. Sorry Gunny I'm an ex-Marine Desert Storm time era and I disagree with you about Naomi. She is right on in her book and I applaud her.

Simper Fi PFC

Keep the peace and keep America free.

Top o' the morning, Gunny, YLG.
I was fortunate enough to be taught by teachers who brooked no chicanery. Caning was a daily ritual, on stage in front of the whole assembly, immediately after singing the anthem. (We added our own lyrics, of course, to "God save our gracious Quee(r), but boys will be boys. Point was, after the morning ritual, we were expected to buckle down and study, and study we did, under the ever present threat of a leather strap hanging conveniently near the teachers desk. That was years ago, of course, I've no idea how it's softened up now, but interestingly enough, when I came to this country in the 50s, I enlisted in the USAF and passed a "true or false" test for OCS, which basically consisted of eeny meeny miny moe answers about American Presidents, of which I knew practically nothing.

In England you would've been given a blank page and had to write out your answers completely without prompting. Not that I'm blowing England's horn in all this, (because they've probably gone the way we have over here) just pointing up the difference in what was (at least years ago) expected of you.

GunnyG
Off subject but, I think it’s time to do a piece on the oil in Iraq! Have you noticed they have WAY slowed down on saying we did it for the oil? Maybe $3 a gallon gas showed them otherwise? Just a thought on how they work, and need to be called on it!

Free Ramos and Compean
If we can’t have HOME SECURITY first, the rest just don’t matter!
Hunter/Tancredo 2008!
http://www.gohunter08.com
http://www.ontheissues.org/Duncan_Hunter.htm
Hunter’s best quote: Move away from the Ted Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party. (Jun 2007)
To libs there is no lie, it is expedient exaggeration!

MotleyCrue
In Puerto Rico, we had the ever-present razor strap (Math and Science classes), and the holey paddle (Social Studies and Spanish classes). For English class we had a switch. The worst part was looking at them day, after day, after day...!

AND THERE WAS NEVER A MULTIPLE CHOICE TEST!!!

This was in elementary school, btw.

YLG
"YO"!
22 degrees here this AM. In-fricken-vigerating!!

I know that there are some teachers out there who believe that an education is a wonderful thing for the crumb crunchers, but all too many are now all for the NEA and just getting by.

1+1=3
Inadvertantly, they might have gotten that one right- 1 man +1 woman = 1 or more children, which is the reason they're having such a hard time cramming gay marriage down normal people's throats.

GunnyG-Ylg-Ssgt-Usmc
My step daughter (1st Grade) was having trouble in Math to the point she was in Spec Ed. In 1 HOUR, I had her counting to 100 and doing 3rd grade level math. If you ever need a Brain Transplant, get a Public School Teacher as a donor. You will be sure of getting a Brain that HASN’T BEEN USED!

Doc
Well, according to HalD, we have secret concentration camps. Maybe we have secret refineries where only the GOP benefits! haha.

Good one Doc.

Keep them dumb...
...and you will have kept them subservient.

'Tis the DNC motto.

THE EVOLUTION OF MATH

.....MATH IN 1950:

...A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is 4/5 of the price. What is his profit? ...

.....MATH IN 1990:

...A logger cuts down a beautiful forest because he is selfish and inconsiderate and cares nothing for the habitat of animals or the preservation of our woodlands. He does this so he can make a profit of $20. How did the birds and squirrels feel as the logger cut down their homes? ...

.....MATH IN 2007:

......Un ranchero vende una carretera de madera para $100. El cuesto de la produccion era $80. Cuantos tortillas se puede comprar? .....COLOSSUS

YLG. SSGT.
YLG. I think a lot of it has to do with the sixties hippies, many of whom went into teaching as the easiest profession they could get into without much emphasis on requirements. They were a bunch of lazy sods who chose the least path of resistance, namely skating by rather than teaching anything substantive.

On a similar note, I see Mike Adams has a column this morning in which he basically talks about the same thing; ebonics, which came about because black kids were not made to toe the line after integration. A case in point; the Harlem Globetrotters were the last basketball team able to speak fairly decent English.

for justpaul
justpaul writes: "All of which makes me wonder what these kids will be doing for a living, and what the future will look like when our engineers and technicians can't even do basic math, let alone anything truly complicated."

FYI, everybody can't be an engineer or scientist or doctor or investor. Pat Buchanan is the only columnist on TH who has dared to point out the obvious: By definition, half of all kids in America have subnormal intelligence. They're not going to learn advanced math, regardless of any methods, teachers, discipline, or anything else. They're mentally incapable of it. The very slogan "No Child Left Behind" is impossible--you can't raise everyone up to everyone else's level.

The problem for our modern society is the disappearance of manual labor, replaced by automation and computers. There used to be plenty of jobs for men who weren't the brightest bulbs on the Christmas tree, who couldn't multiply 8 times 7 in their heads, who didn't know many words of more than two syllables--but who were decent and willing to work hard. And in any population there are going to be a sizable number of those--that's the genetic inevitability.

You can't turn Forrest Gump into Einstein by any amount of formal education. What our society does with the millions of Gumps is the challenge.

Georgetwin
THAT needed a spew alert! haha.

I think I attracted another libturd to my blog! "This Just In!"

They just can't seem to understand that their suffering and angst is my enjoyment! haha.


SSGT
NEA is just an excuse for most teachers. It is political, not educational.

Glad you aren't freezing your n*ts off!!

BBdoc. I love it.
Point well made.

MotleyCrue
I call em "professional students" whose main contribution to America is pretty much nothing.

"Lazy sods" covers them well!

MotleyCrue
Did you read my first post on Adams' column??!!

I have to go to the hospital for a while, but will return in a couple of hours! ;-)

SSGT. That's why I left England
for California. We kids would stand shivering in line every saturday morning at the Odeon Cinema, to watch the western serials; Roy Rogers, Hopalong Cassidy, etc. Most apparent was that they rode around in their shirts, in bright sunshine. No topcoats, woolen scarves, chillblains, numb fingers, or anything like that. Nope, just a shirt and a guitar. That was for me. I grew up determined to head for California first chance I got.

Perhaps you should move. LOL.

When I was in first grade...
within the first week of school, I had to stand in the corner, for talking in class, with my nose in a circle drawn on the blackboard just high enough that I had to tiptoe. Guess what, I never had to stand in the corner again! Amazing what happens when there are consequences to pay for acting up!

I can just see how this punishment would be viewed today. The child probably would need extensive psychotherapy!

Yo CB
You read this in the morning paper?

More on the fantasic British National Health Care System. First they're getting the flesh-eating germ, then they're pulling their own snags, now this!

And liberals want socialized health care for US? Slightly off-topic but still in the education arena.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/health/healt hmain.html?in_article_id=496817&in_page_id=1774&in_page_id= 1774

YLG. The thought of some teacher
in PR, tanning your (what I can only imagine is an absolutely luscious) backside, leaves me all sweaty. Be still my aching pacemaker.

Farmer's Wife
I went to Catholic School for 1-6th grade. No nonsense nuns made D*MN sure we learned. I was way ahead of my peers when we moved and I went to public school. Getting a little "ruler" time was a real attention getter.

GunnyG even though the ruler
was used, just seeing it done was enough to deter me from causing pain to myself.

Another teacher in the sixth grade would make the person who failed to do homework, sit on a stool in front of the class next to her desk while wearing a dunce cap. After the first six weeks, the stool remained empty!

Farmer's Wife
Yep, we had very FEW problems in class. Or our playing at recess. I can remember nuns in hot pursuit of miscreants! haha. Wasn't funny then but it is now.

motley ylg
get a room.

Gunny
What did those nuns teach you? Whenever there is any doubt scour the Daily Mail for a scare story about the NHS? Because that is just about all you are capable of... interesting that you should have been so far ahead of your peers when you went to high school. What happened there to make you go into reverse??

Undesirable actions and conduct...
do have consequences, whether you want them to or not. Behavior that once kept some on the fringes of society is now openly embraced and is leading us to mediocrity rather than excellence. IMHO not fitting the historical "American" image.

baseballdoc 11:30
HA! LOVE IT !

CB
Oh, because you didn't write it and "move markets" as you stated, it ain't true. Seems to be a lot of those "non" stories about BNHS.

Uh huh.

I don't know about reverse old bean but that's an old tactic of the left isn't it? Add a dash of ad homonem to your envy! haha.

Don't worry, you'll be riding the skirt of a woman into the Land of the Round Door Knob and can get REAL medical care!

But ain't that just like a male lib?

Farmer's wife
Yeah, I used to be made to stand in a corner when I was a kid but the tiptoe thing is new to me. How DARE your teacher torture you. ; )

Oops,
ad homonem = ad hominem

Probably got traitorous republicans all hot and bothered reading that!

Thanks!
Nice article Michelle!

Please keep fighting the good fight!

gunny
no, i think it was a freudian slip when you mispelled ad hominem. you were ready to be disciplined by a catholic priest while the nun stood watching, ruler in hand.

Gunny
I didn't say it wasn't true - I said it was a scare story. The two aren't necessarily the same thing. And a story about the NHS is unlikely to move any markets as the NHS isn't publicly listed. I'm surprised at you Gunny - the NHS is your obsession - have you been spending all this time looking for its share price in the FT? Ha ha ha ha ha. Shame on you... wrong on both counts. If that's what you think then my theory about your brain going into sharp reverse when you went to high school must be fairly accurate...

TR
More likely YOUR wishful thinking! What DO you do in your mommy's basement?

Motley Crue
Flag on that play! Unnecessary salaciousness, 15 yards from the spot of the foul. Continue.

GunnyG
Don't feed the fools! TR is an anchor baby. BTW-are you a hunter and did you go deer hunting?

Jealous, Treasonous Reprobate?
Well, got things to do, but I will return. Stick around TR, I would have words with you.

GunnyG
Before long he'll be WEARING The Skirt! Like TR, Roberta, MLD and other Liberal Girly Men.

Watering down of Curriculum
It is obvious that "educators" are trying to accomodate the demands of african-american leaders who accused the school curriculum of being racist because black students couldn't handle it.

CVN65 12:57
Hahaha! The funny comments make my day. I wish I'd have come up with that! : (

California public school system
My step-daughter is a product of the California public school system, and I honestly don't think she knows anything I didn't learn before I even got to high school.

Solid math program plug
Homeschoolers get to pick and choose their math programs. Most rely heavily on memorization and concrete representations (math manipulatives.) "Old" Saxon and Singapore Math are very popular and were already mentioned. Another one that is commonly used is Math U See. We use it and love it.

http://www.mathusee.com

The kids memorize addition/subtraction facts and learn to skip count by 2s,3s,4s,5s,6s,7s,8s,9s,10s using music at first then by recitation BEFORE they begin multiplication and division.

All the concepts from counting, telling time, and basic arithmetic through high school math classes are physically represented and demonstrated in a concrete way just BEFORE moving to written symbols on paper. This is true at all levels, so those kids who are not naturally inclined to grasp abstract concepts are helped the most. The kids who are naturally inclined get reinforcement.

GunnyG
Go check your mail for PROOF that repugs do have a sense of humor!!!


Free Ramos and Compean
If we can’t have HOME SECURITY first, the rest just don’t matter!
Hunter/Tancredo 2008!
http://www.gohunter08.com
http://www.ontheissues.org/Duncan_Hunter.htm
Hunter’s best quote: Move away from the Ted Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party. (Jun 2007)
To libs there is no lie, it is expedient exaggeration!

TR:
if they get a room i wonder if i can watch?

Excellent
As always, Michelle writes another excellent and truthful article. Keep up the great work. And We hope to see Ramos and Compean free very soon. Hunter and Tancredo in '08.

This explains why
you cannot buy more than 99 of something at Wal*mart. Their checkers cannot subtract.

BTW, for more examples of how well this type of education has worked out try reading something written by any of most Americans younger than 35. Most seem to be functionally illiterate by how they write.

My kids were home schooled in the evenings after their days in the public school. I also helped many of their friends get through the math courses, because their HS math teacher was just as illiterate of numbers as they were before they came to me.

So why did I have them in public school? Because OR will not issue diplomas to home schooled kids even if they do follow all the regs and pass all the tests. But they will give a diploma to the dumbest rocks in the box.

kikekiller
Nice try. The regulars at TH can spot a phony a mile away. You know, where a liberal pretends to be a knuckle-dragging, racist conservative. We don't have to satirize your side to make you look ridiulous.

Why we should not be surprised

Two points:

1. "Those that can, do. Those that can't teach."

2. The average person is hopeless at solving problems involving fractions, and that's math at the third grade level.

It may be that the system is being realistic. Ultimately, those who do have a talent for numbers - and chasing that 'x' around - will learn all the math that they will ever need to succeed in life and get as far in life as is possible. I don't see America falling behind in Nobel prize winners any time soon just because the educational system appears to like learning about people more than they like actually teaching them things that the majority would have trouble with anyway because of their complexity and thereby adversely affecting their self-esteem. I think that's what the intent is.

The talented ones will in all likelihood find their way in a society which leans heavily on self-investment.

Everyone in this discussion expresses dismay, but then, everyone here is literate and intelligent beyond the norm. Fear not.




Deja Vu
I have my children enrolled in a private Montessori school which often sponsors outside speakers. As you might imagine, as a staunch conservative, I don't always mix well with this Artsy crowd of pseudointellectuals.

A 'Nationally Recognized Speaker' gave a lecture to parents and put forth some of the exact same things Michelle mentions. There were countless 'intelligent' well meaning parents in the audience lapping up this drivel without a second thought, nodding their heads instead of baaing like the sheep they are.

Finally Mr. Education said, "Parents should stop worring about whether their kids can spell correctly. It's all about editing, anyhow. Besides, most computers have spell check. You're hurting your kids by demanding they can spell correctly."

That was all I could take. After blurting out "Give me a break" I was visually admonished by the faculty and many parents. During the question/answer period the speaker refused to recognize me. I have received the cold shoulder from the staff since.

Wake up people. This is hapening at expensive private schools and public schools. They might not like it, but the school faculty know me by name. They also know they will get a faceful of me if this kind of crap becomes policy. If you think anyone else is better qualified to represent the best interests of you or your blessed children, you are lost, hypnotized or a bleeding heart gimme gimme liberal.

Please excuse any spelling errors. I refuse to use spell check.

After giving it some thought
I realize that my wife and I home schooled our three also. Not so much in a formal way but in a way necessary for them to learn what we thought they should know at the end of their educational cycle. My wife, who has a bachelors degree in education (English), lead the charge with the soft stuff, and I was held in reserve for the math and science. The kids did real well when my wife worked with them. Dads help tended to be last resort because I always treated them like college level students and I am one of those who believe that math isn't soft and fuzzy and science is a close second as an absolute. Anyway we now have a healthcare professional and two educators with advance degrees doing pretty much the same thing for our 8 grandchildren that we did for them. Life goe on.

I taught Calculus
I am also amazed at how horrible a program becomes when placed into the hands of a Conservative. All of the Liberal teachers were able to continue teaching no matter what program was handed to them by the administration, but the Cons were simply unable to modify their approach to the subject and taught only what was required.

One such Conservative math teacher simply gave up trying, blamed the system and the students, and became even worse at teaching. Most Liberal teachers looked over the new program, liked some of what they saw, disliked other aspects, and taught accordingly.

Good math teachers remain good no matter what they are handed. Bad math teachers blame the system (i.e., Conservatives blaming everything on smeone else). I see a strong correlation between good/bad and Liberal/Conservative teachers. Don't you?

MotleyCrue, CVN65
I just got back from BAMC, and saw Motley's 11:51 AM post, and CVN65's 12:57 PM post.

MotleyCrue: (deep blush) Wow....! THANK YOU!! What a, ahem..., compliment....;-)

CVN65: "Fifteen yards from the spot of foul?" That's harsh, and probably the funniest thing I read today!!

There are Conservatives In the Teaching
Profession? Where? Where?

to Dale-meaningless diplomas
I have attended several "Homeschoolers getting into College" seminars presented by State and Private Christian Colleges in the last two years.

Most of them will tell you they are not very interested in an applicant's HS diploma anymore. Most focus primarily on SAT, ACT, CLEP, and placement exam scores or transcripts from Jr. Colleges. They distinguish between students who are drop outs and those who are homeschooled.

Like you pointed out, diplomas are given to students who vary dramatically in academic performance and are therefore meaningless in evaluating mastery of high school material or college preparedness.

There is a trend here in AZ of homeschoolers spending 2 years in community college somewhere between 13-17 years old instead of high school and then immediately transferring to a State or private college.

There are even pockets of public schooled students in the area who are doing this because the only high school nearby is a complete waste of time and is a particularly negative social environment. Why not pay tuition and get college credit instead of paying a private high school an hour or more away?

It is so common there are now guidance counselors there who assist exclusively minor students, and there are discussions of having "minors only" college classes to avoid young teen girls mixing with adult men in the near future. Enrollment of minors is so high it is economically feasible and we anticipate it happening in the next few years.

YLG
Appreciate it. (I, too, was blushing and I am a Navy man)

Awesome Michelle!
I've never regretted resigning my teaching position to stay-at-home with my two boys. Now I homeschool them and love it! It is the best choice (besides giving birth to them) I've ever made!

Perhaps when they are grown I'll return to the public school system. Heaven knows they need Christian teachers fighting for these children!

Homeschool Mom
Thanks for the encouragement. Thankfully my kids are now adults. I hope the environment for alternative educational methods improves here. But right now the state universities will not accept an applicant without a diploma from an accredited HS or at least an Associates from a community college. A student can get a GED from a CC in about 3 months, but that will not be accepted at the state universities. All this regardless of other test scores, etc. Our kids' HS told us that the local CC would give them credit for classes taken while in HS but when the time came any such classes which were not taken withing the 2 years immediately preceding graduation were not accepted for credit, so the students have been required to take them again.

I hope my grandchildren will be able to be educated without the NEA monopoly. But since our governor and legislature seem to be a wholly owned subsidiary of the NEA I am not holding my breath.

My mom always pushed us harder
My mom was an immigrant to this country, and she always thought our teachers were too easy. I actually went to a good public school, full of old-style teachers nearing retirement age that still used things like phonics and memorization of multiplication tables, so I got a decent education. Plus the school was in a working class, immigrant-full neighborhood of NYC, which meant we had few disciplinary problems and none of the "lazy American culture" that seems to prevail in so much of this country nowadays, unfortunately. (I know that traditionally Americans were not lazy; I am talking about current developments.)

When I was learning the multiplication tables the school only had us go to 10; my mom made me learn them to 16, because in India, where she was from, that was standard. She pushed me a lot harder than many American parents, but you know, it didn't hurt me. It gave me self-confidence in my ability to learn anything if I worked hard enough.

Children's minds are like sponges - childhood is a period when they can learn many things easily and well that they have to struggle with later. When our educational system allows children to "take it easy" during their early years with busy-work cut and paste projects, they are cheating them of a necessary foundation for later excellence. It is a travesty.

No need to spell with computers
Just run it through the spelling checker:


I halve a spelling chequer
It came with my pea sea
It plane lee marques four my revue
Miss steaks aye ken knot sea


Eye ran this poem threw it
Your sure reel glad two no
It's vary polished in it's weigh
My chequer tolled me sew


A chequer is a bless sing
It freeze yew lodes of thyme
It helps me awl stiles two reed
And aides mi when aye rime


To rite with care is quite a feet
Of witch won should be proud
And wee mussed dew the best wee can
Sew flaws are knot aloud

And now bee cause my spelling
is checked with such grate flare
Their are know faults with in my cite
Of nun eye am a wear

Each frays come posed up on my screen
Eye trussed to be a joule
The chequer poured o'er every word
To cheque sum spelling rule

That's why aye brake in two averse
My righting wants too pleas
Sow now ewe sea wye aye dew prays
Such soft wear for pea seas

J. Tenn

Where's Lilly?
She's missed her cue to tell us how teachers know better than parents. They are the professionals and parents just need to get the H E double hockeysticks out of the way.

Interesting
The rallying cry for so long was that rote memorization (of multiplication tables and rules) was this total bummer that quashed a child's natural creativity, and didn't even give kids anything they'd find useful in life. Hey, man, we have calculators now.

But I can attest that in the nearly 40 years since I left second grade, I have frequently found it both a convenience and a downright advantage to be able to multiply and divide in my head, and rapidly add large numbers or lots of them.

Not once, however, have I suffered any disadvantage whatsoever from not having considered the proposition:

"If math were a color, it would be --, because --."

Seems like an argument against any potential claims that drill and memorization were replaced by things more worthwhile.

LobaAzul
She saved her comments, such as they were, for Dr. Adams column, "Hooked on Ebonics".

She probably couldn't defend the nature of this column, so she stayed well away!

dyerje
RIGHT ON!!!

What exactly is wrong with the way we have been doing it, and why the H3ll would anybody care if math has a color???!!! Last I checked, Mathematics is considered the only universal language and most correct science we learn. Since when does it have feelings!!??

YLG, m
YLG, m'dear. My comments, as you have already surmised, are meant as complimentarily humorous with the deepest of respect.

Are we really surprised?
When we have teachers telling students it doesn't matter how they spell words, or allowing papers to be written in "chat speak," can the integrity of the other fields of study be far behind?

CVN65. A penalty for salacity?
Rather get that any day, than for stupidity. LOL :-)

MotleyCrue
Oh,I know that, believe me!

But the post left me feeling warm all over!!

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!;-)

MC
stupidity?

is that not the award roberta won? at least thats what i heard. i started talking about k-marts helos and he ran off from kathleen parkers
column

Free Ramos and Compean
If we can’t have HOME SECURITY first, the rest just don’t matter!
Hunter/Tancredo 2008!
http://www.gohunter08.com
http://www.ontheissues.org/Duncan_Hunter.htm
Hunter’s best quote: Move away from the Ted Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party. (Jun 2007)
To libs there is no lie, it is expedient exaggeration!

Social Experiments gone wild!
Eubonics, whole language, team teaching, cooperative learning, color-coded reading, now "fuzzy" math are all failed experiments. The list is never-ending. Everytime some "academic" gets a bright idea, the public school system throws the baby out with the bath water. Entire generations suffer because of the impulsive behavior of the academic elitist. Johnny can't spell or balance his check book, but he can put on his gov't. issued condom. If the condom breaks, Johnny know welfare will pay to raise his kids.

motley ylg
"YLG, m'dear. My comments, as you have already surmised, are meant as complimentarily humorous with the deepest of respect."


-ha, just like a swift smack on the fanny and a little wink and a giggle? get. a. room.

New Math Ain't New
It's just getting worse. Probably because most of the new teachers can't handle the curriculum that they should be teaching.

Want to see how inept and ill prepared our young people are? Try handing them a couple of extra cents after they've rung up your purchase at the fast food outlet. All you want is to get back a whole dollar instead of 98 cents...but it'll totally blow their mind! Very sad, actually.

I once had a clerk key in my amount tendered incorrectly and she tried to give me $20 change for my $10 bill....It was refreshing to be in Europe where the clerks could actually do the math for themselves if something was rung up incorrectly or you handed them a few extra coins to make the change come back even.

motley
were you looking for me a little earlier?

Mrs. Paddy
I witnessed the same thing in Germany: cashiers could make change without looking at the register!! WOW!! How wonderful was that? And they have more confusing money, what with eight types of coinage, and Euro bills that went up to 1000 E.

TR
you need a padded room!

Free Ramos and Compean
If we can’t have HOME SECURITY first, the rest just don’t matter!
Hunter/Tancredo 2008!
http://www.gohunter08.com
http://www.ontheissues.org/Duncan_Hunter.htm
Hunter’s best quote: Move away from the Ted Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party. (Jun 2007)
To libs there is no lie, it is expedient exaggeration!

theBaron wrote:
"No one should be surprised that we now have this kind of nonsense. The '60s generation became professors and teachers, and have raised successive generations of radicalized teachers, imbued with Marxist thought, and they are teaching our kids."

==================
Finally the light went on! If all those text book writers were thinking about what color math is...it could be just an outgrowth of their psychedelic, drug-enhanced viewpoint. To them it probably makes perfect sense.

Far out, Man.

Doc
How's your dad doing?

Don't bother with the poster @ 5:48 PM. Jealousy is an ugly thing, you know...;-)

Mrs. Paddy
So, THAT'S why they asked what color math would be!!

They remembered math had a color in their drug-induced haze, and they have a need to remember what it was!!

Thanks!!

was the
"what color is math" part of the students e.o.g.'s? i doubt it. teachers have their hands tied up by evangelical political correctness.

ylg
young lad groper.

i am flattered to not only see the white flag of ignorance and defeat but you dare not even mention my name.
ha.
i am here tonight because motley asked me to hang around. he had something to say to me, or ask me, or something...

YLG
Well, not so good the Docs are basically waiting for his leg to die so they can amputate. They don’t hold out much hope for his body re-directing the blood flow. Both of my RN sisters give it 6 months and they probably know more than I do about it. We were adding it up the other day and this will be his 11th major surgery and I sure hope he makes it through this one, if it comes to that.

Free Ramos and Compean
If we can’t have HOME SECURITY first, the rest just don’t matter!
Hunter/Tancredo 2008!
http://www.gohunter08.com
http://www.ontheissues.org/Duncan_Hunter.htm
Hunter’s best quote: Move away from the Ted Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party. (Jun 2007)
To libs there is no lie, it is expedient exaggeration!

Doc. YLG.
Doc. I think Roberto's award was for stupidity. He certainly didn't win it for intellect.

YLG. Caught your post on Mike Adams thread. Didn't realize I'd caused you to get warm all over. Was it something I said? :-)

TR
Do the world a favor and take a very long walk on a short pier!

Free Ramos and Compean
If we can’t have HOME SECURITY first, the rest just don’t matter!
Hunter/Tancredo 2008!
http://www.gohunter08.com
http://www.ontheissues.org/Duncan_Hunter.htm
Hunter’s best quote: Move away from the Ted Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party. (Jun 2007)
To libs there is no lie, it is expedient exaggeration!

Doc
I'm so sorry to 'hear' that. My prayers are with you, and I hope he does pull through when the time comes.

Blessings on your family.

TR. Something you said earlier on one
of your posts tweaked my interest. I'll have to backtrack to jog my memory. If I find it, I'll let you know. Probably some of your ususal drivel not worth debating.

MotleyCrue
Why, you cheeky devil, you!!

I'm still blushing.....

I may have underestimated shopping at VS, though...;-)

If you send your child to school
You are commiting child abuse.
You are making them slaves.
Over and over, even in this thread, people send their kids to school at extreme expense, only to end up teaching the kid themselves. Mountians of homework, tought by parents. reams of worksheets again taught by parents, and then online courses and tutors to fill in everything else... If the kids makes it through and has gained anything the school acts like they did something.
Home school your kid, you are anyhow.

Doc. Sorry to hear about your father.
How old is he, if I may ask?

motley doc
no pressure but the sooner the better. i'm on the east coast am am 1.5 hours into happy hour.

doc- i'm not that near the coast and any piers near me are in dried up mountain lakes (and we call them docks this far inland).

Virginia Lady
I just watched the Youtube link you posted. I am just amazed! I especially loved the 'cluster' method. It was a cluster alright...

MotleyCrue
It was on your 1:00 PM post that you called t r out, because he alluded to us "getting a room".

What an idiot.

MC
He's 78 and one tough guy. Has to be for him to be my best friend LoL



Free Ramos and Compean
If we can’t have HOME SECURITY first, the rest just don’t matter!
Hunter/Tancredo 2008!
http://www.gohunter08.com
http://www.ontheissues.org/Duncan_Hunter.htm
Hunter’s best quote: Move away from the Ted Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party. (Jun 2007)
To libs there is no lie, it is expedient exaggeration!

TR. For the life of me, I can't think
why you keep referring to Michelle Malkin as an anchor baby. Is that some kind of left-wing slur, or does it mean her parents came in by boat? Please elucidate.

Well good luck to him, Doc.
I wish him the best. And you, of course.


YLG. I'm still recovering from your
"bubble bath" posting. Then, just when I think it's safe to reappear, you start in with getting spanked. My god, woman, have you no pity? :-)

Well got to run
TR scared me off talking about him self in padded rooms. well, that and he was trying to add something up.

Thanks YGL and MC it means a lot!

Free Ramos and Compean
If we can’t have HOME SECURITY first, the rest just don’t matter!
Hunter/Tancredo 2008!
http://www.gohunter08.com
http://www.ontheissues.org/Duncan_Hunter.htm
Hunter’s best quote: Move away from the Ted Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party. (Jun 2007)
To libs there is no lie, it is expedient exaggeration!

motley
her parents were filipino doctors here on work visa's. they were here legally but were not citizens. mama malkin pooped out what would someday be an heir apparent to a hideous witch known as ann coulter. presto, bingo- citizenship via anchor baby. now there is nothing wrong with that so much since her parents were here on work visas. but then she presents herself intentionally as such a xenophobe as to defend internments camps for citizens in ww2 whoose grand-parents were born here and had been here for generations.
thanks for asking. i will put it at most of her columns. i did not last week because it was a sweet story and not a political column.

Steve - anchor babies
It's an erroneous term used by people who think if an illegal immigrant has a baby in this country they can avoid deportation. I know an immigration attorney and she tells me that there is no such legal designation. There are, however, some INS agents who will bend over backwards (without legal authority) to keep an illegal in country whose child was born here. But legally, if the child doesn't have at least one US citizen parent, they are not an automatic citizen of the United States even if they are born here. Since Marti makes her living in the field, I tend to think she knows what she's talking about. That's validated by a former associate pastor of Korean work at my church who was deported for failure to file his resident paperwork in a timely manner, despite having two children born in the US.

aurorawatcher
tell your lawyer buddy that anyone past seventh grade unfamiliar with the fact that any child born in the u.s. is an embarrassment and it's no wonder why they are in immigration law.

MotleyCrue
If it's possible, I'm blushing even more....

I had forgotten about that. I didn't think it was THAT bad!!

TR. At least you're honest in your
hatred of Michelle Malkin and Ann Coulter. I, myself, think of them in a rather different light, as is my wont. I do believe, though, that the internment camps were used because it was not known at the time how many of the enemy were already in the country, in what could possibly be described as a fifth column of Japanese. And secondly, the Filipinos were treated very badly during the Japanese occupation, and so there might be a pretty good reason for Michelle to not care for them very much, especially if her parents were in the Philippines at the time of the Japanese invasion, which I believe they were.

As for liberal women. I prefer ours over such as Janet Reno, Allbright, etc. God they're ugly.


theFlash
I am humbled! Wonderful poem!!!!!

YLG. I'm famished. I must eat.
Back in a while. :-)

Doc
hope your dad does okay. It's a great thing to have a best friend that is your parent.

motley
yeah, the japs were brutal. if you ask me it has been half a century of jewish representation of ww2 making the nazi's the ultimate bad guys but the truth is the japanese fighters were far more brutal and blinded by loyalty. but those interned were americans of japanese descent. germans were not treated the same (although there were smaller incidents of xenophobia with recent german immgrants). most german-amercans were used to our advantage, japanese-americans, with their squinty eyes and colored skin were considered more savage and thus locking them up was a short and easy, although it be erroneous, rationalization.

motley
janet reno? i don't know why you would think of her as a good looking woman. in fact, i don't know that she is a woman at all.
but the same could be said of coulter.
now malkin is woman through and through. and her direct asian descent makes me...well, unable to describe anything else owing to the limits of decency.

Re-read my post, TR, as regards
Reno and women of the left. I think I stated they were ugly, although you could be right about Reno not really being a woman.

no math
is fuzzier than the addtion and subtraction process that took place in the persidential elections of 2000 and 2004.

MotleyCrew
Chillblains?

Michelle Malkin is right on target.
inthemajority writes "I taught Calculus
I am also amazed at how horrible a program becomes when placed into the hands of a Conservative. All of the Liberal teachers were able to continue teaching no matter what program was handed to them by the administration, but the Cons were simply unable to modify their approach to the subject and taught only what was required."

What a load of crap! The school system is infested with liberal administrators and the "good math teachers" usually bail out and go into industry rather than put up with the B.S.

My wife's career as a math teacher is a typical experience, where the union and administration play favorites in dealing out teaching assignments to their friends, so she quit after 7 years to become a CPA.

YLG, MotleyCrue, CVN65, and Doc, you all sound like me, conservative throughout.

We must keep fighting the takeover by communists (oops, i mean democrats) for our kids' and grandkids' sake.

(If you don't believe the democrat party has been taken over by commies, just go to the official commie party website, CPUSA.org and tell me what's different between it and the democrat party agenda! Answer: Nothing.)

I wish I had more time but I need to keep working to keep my taxes paid so the government doesn't send guys with guns to sell more of my stuff.

Reno
What kind of person incinerates and kidnaps kids?

Fred
I didn't bother replying to him, since he left, but he seemed not to notice that he really said, "The liberals caved and taught whatever was handed to the without question, but the conservatives fought to keep teaching what was essential."

I am conservative, thanks to being a democrat when I was young!!

there goes t.r. again - election issues
what are you talking about fuzzy math? al gore kept counting and trying to lose ballots that were military. that election FINALLY helped educate me about the electoral college.

the election is an election of the states picking a leader, not the public! and bush won even in spite of the commie commie (oops, i meant democrat) voter fraud!

also, there was so much proven voter fraud in philadelphia and pittsburgh showing the democrats will have election fraud fully functioning very soon and are planning to have an election just like the one saddam hussein had!


joe_america.
Chillblains are itchy and/or tender red or purple bumps that occur as a reaction to cold. Cold causes constriction of the small arteries and veins in the skin and re-warming results in leakage of blood into the tissues and swelling of the skin.

As a kid, my toes would swell up all red and purple, and itch like mad. They're called something else over here in the States. Not sure of the name. Pernosis, I think.



Conservative - used to be democrat too
Hi YLG. I used to be registered demcrat also, till Bill Clinton finally made me so mad I went down and changed.

My grandfather was a democrat lawyer back in the 1960s. He's the one who gave me some passionate arguments about the 2nd ammendment and would be considered a right wing gun nut these days!

So that's why I say there is no more democrat party, it has been taken over by the commies!

Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkin are
besides being fantastic writers/debaters, very hot!

I want to get their books signed in person some day!

Trust me, TR. There may be snow on top
of the chimney, but there's still flames in the fireplace. Trust me, I know "hot" when I see "hot." I like Michelle just as she is, not some bimbo's body with Michelle's head pasted on it. She's a married woman with children. I respect that.

Fred, MotleyCrue
Fred: It was the 1988 election that did it for me. And you are right: old democrats are more right leaning than current ones!

MotleyCrue: Care to warm up?? HAHAHAHAHA!!!

motley
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/chilblains/AN00952

you are lucky you don't have frostbite or even frostnip.

motley
periosis?

motley
how cold does the air temp need to be before your skin is irritated? i am sensitive to warm air and prefer the mountains. i tend to sweat even when i don't need to if the air is warm and my skin gets dried out worse than during the dry months of winter.
i think i saw someone say you were in cali. it must be nice there.

YLG. Interesting you say that.
I've been a conservative since I was a kid. When I first came here I voted for Kennedy, because I liked the man. His successor Johnson turned me away from ever voting democrat again.

Oh, and YLG. You little mink, you. :-)

MotleyCrue
My grandmother still has a picture of JFK on her wall, right next to Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI. To her, he was the last president.

Oh, and better a mink than a minx, right? Much, much warmer...;-)

TR. Think Manchester, England, in the
summer, not much sunshine, plenty of rain. In the winter, freezing temperatures, rain turns to solid ice. There were times my feet would be numb from the cold. That's when I'd end up with chillblains.

YLG. What must I be thinking?
Of course I meant "minx." Forgive me. I have no excuse. :-)

MotleyCrue
No, no, I like "mink" better!!

At least it wasn't a stoat!!

Goodnight all.
YLG. Perhaps I'll catch you on the Ann Coulter column tomorrow. Be well.

YLG. Or a ferret. LOL :-)
.

MotleyCrue
Good night, and sleep well....!!;-)

USMC Lt
Don't let Wobbie get you down, son. We all love you. Be safe, Marine. God Bless.

Have you seen it in action?
I am an elementary school teacher and I we use Everyday Math with our students. I currently teach second grade altough, I have spent several years teaching middle school math and algebra. Our school (which is made up of at least 90% of poor students) has used Everyday Math for the last four years. Our math scores on the New Jersey state test have increased to beyond a passing score. Before we used the program we had failing scores. Proof that the program is working. But, most importantly, my students LOVE math class. They are excited and engaged 100% of the time. The students in second grade are doing open ended responses and algebraic equations that were once expected of a middle school student. When I started in second grade, I was impressed with the quailty and depth of the questioning and expections of 7 and 8 year olds. My question to you is....Have you seen it in action? Come into my classroom and you will see children excited about learning and proud of their accomplishments!

Education
Education in this country is a serious problem.

please
Read these Books by Alfie Kohn

THE SCHOOLS OUR CHILDREN DESERVE:
Moving Beyond Traditional Classrooms and "Tougher Standards"

THE CASE AGAINST STANDARDIZED TESTING:
Raising the Scores, Ruining the Schools

WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE WELL EDUCATED?
And More Essays on Standards, Grading, and Other Follies

WHAT TO LOOK FOR IN A CLASSROOM
. . . And Other Essays

BEYOND DISCIPLINE:
From Compliance to Community

PUNISHED BY REWARDS:

The Trouble with Gold Stars, Incentive Plans, A's, Praise, and Other Bribes

and

THE HOMEWORK MYTH:
Why Our Kids Get Too Much of a Bad Thing

maggie
Just because children love the class doesn't mean they're learning anything. My son loves to play video games, but that doesn't improve his reading skills. I don't know how much experience you have a teacher, but I know several teachers who say this is a nightmare on par with the 1960s New Math debacle, if not worse. Forgive me, but I would need to hear from a great many more like you before I'd want to gamble on my children's educational future.

In college I participated in a study for the psych dept looking for advantageous outcomes for New Math students. In all categories, New Math students scored lower than traditional math students. I didn't need the study to tell me that not knowing the multiplication table slowed down my ability to do computations and made me more reliant upon a calculator, but that was exactly what the study showed. New Math students, even if they had been exposed for only a year as I had been, scored an average of 10 percent lower on the math portion of their college entrance exams. You know what they say about the proof being in the pudding? Seems like a rather risky experiment to just test on children who someday may need to get jobs involving math calculation.

You may be a wonderful teacher who can transcend a bad program or you might be my 3rd grade teacher who couldn't. A lot rides on the outcome, so why take the risk when we know there are more traditional programs available that have proven themselves to work?

Traiterous Repugnant - greetings
What are your qualifications in immigration law, TR? Fry cook at Dennys?

Just because you've read it on the Internet doesn't mean the law exists. It's a long-held misbelief that illegals can stay in this country if they have a child born in this country. It doesn't happen to be true.

Uber
Alfie's Punished by Rewards is great-not that I agree with everything he says, but the basic principles are outstanding! I'm not familiar with the rest of his work.

You may like A Thomas Jefferson Education by Oliver DeMille. Talk about transforming education! He has a lot to say about the "conveyor belt" and why parents should take their children off of it and inspire them to learn and thrive as individuals. The greatest minds were not trained by anything resembling modern teaching methods, so why not go back to the methods that created the best of the best?

You might also like I Saw the Angel in the Marble by Chris and Ellyn Davis. It is a great argument for identity driven education. Not everyone will agree with the Fundamentalist Christian motivation, but the general principles are excellent. (There is a lot about homeschooling methods and subcultures that may not interest you.)

Call it stupid, but don't call it fuzzy
Karl's post "Call it stupid, but don't call it fuzzy" and link to Prof. Kosko's article was right on. "Fuzzy math" does not mean "easy" or "anything goes" math. It has very little to do with the "everyday math" Michelle Malkin describes. As Kosko says, it's a way of putting to good use the imprecise definition of terms used in real life. It is widely accepted in the math and engineering communities, and applied to the design of real products and used in statistical analysis for virtually all fields of research. Will leave it to the education experts to debate the pros and cons of new methods of teaching mathematics, but again, what's being debated in these posts is nearly 100% unrelated to fuzzy logic and fuzzy mathematics.

Self described math idiot
Yes, that is me. I did well in other subjects, but was never a good math student. To this day, at almost 40 I can not do long division. Sad and pathetic? Perhaps. But it has not hindered me in life even a little. Do not take that as an endorsement for being bad at math; for some people good math skills are a necessity. Try going into any branch of physics without solid math acumen. I wish I there had been a program for math idiots like me when I was a boy. Sadly I had a kind of mental block when it came to numbers. If this system works, I say use it.

fuzzy math
The "fuzzy math" is educational malpractice. In fact, considering the prison of frusration and ignorance into which it locks the students, it is a form of child abuse.

Ernie

I wish...
everyone had Sister Honora to teach them their mulitplication/division tables. Those Dominican nuns drilled them into our heads. Now, we have fuzzy headed liberals who deliberately "diseducate" the child. They can't read, write or add or subtact. I believe it's deliberate. A deliberate dumb-down of American children. They can't think for themselves. They can't carry on an intelligent conversation. It IS child abuse.

C.S. Lewis said...
"What I want to fix your attention on is the vast overall movement towards the discrediting, and finally the elimination, of every kind of human excellence -- moral, cultural, social or intellectual. And is it not pretty to notice how 'democracy' (in the incantatory sense) is now doing for us the work that was once done by the most ancient dictatorships, and by the same methods? The basic proposal of the new education is to be that dunces and idlers must not be made to feel inferior to intelligent and industrious pupils. That would be 'undemocratic.' Children who are fit to proceed may be artificially kept back, because the others would get a trauma by being left behind. The bright pupil thus remains democratically fettered to his own age group throughout his school career, and a boy who would be capable of tackling Aeschylus or Dante sits listening to his coeval's [of the same age] attempts to spell out A CAT SAT ON A MAT. We may reasonably hope for the virtual abolition of education when 'I'm as good as you' has fully had its way. All incentives to learn and all penalties for not learning will vanish. The few who might want to learn will be prevented; who are they to overtop their fellows? And anyway, the teachers -- or should I say nurses? -- will be far too busy reassuring the dunces and patting them on the back to waste any time on real teaching. We shall no longer have to plan and toil to spread imperturbable conceit and incurable ignorance among men."

Our schools are like prisons
My sister teaches in public school that is more than 90% hispanic. Students are not allowed to have lockers, since the school found too many drugs and weapons hidden in them.

They are also not issued textbooks since too many were lost or damaged.

In my sister's first year of teaching, more than half of her students were earning legitimately failing grades mainly due to a refusal to do any work -- the administration told her that it was not allowed to 'fail' more than a certain percentage of students, forcing her to arbitrarily pass a number of failing students.

Apparently, it is just too hard to teach real responsibility and accountability. Therefore, the schools have decided to require less of both.

Every Day Math Disaster
If "Every Day Math" were weather, it would be a tornado, because it SUCKS!! I have worked with "at risk" middle schoolers for a number of years and their lack of math skills is appalling. Not only do they not know how to multiply and divide, but they don't know simple liquid and solid measurement. Bring back math the way it should be, before these kids are the ones calculating our tax returns!
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