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Friday, November 28, 2008
Michael Reagan :: Townhall.com Columnist
Change is Changing
by Michael Reagan
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A funny thing happened on his way to the White House: that old, left-wing community organizer Barack Obama has suddenly veered toward the center, and his incoming administration is looking more and more like the Daley Machine in Chicago than Hugo Chavez's administration down in Venezuela.

It seems that reality has set in, instructing the soon-to-be president-elect (he won't be that until the presidential electors gather and vote for him next month) that it's easier to promise change then it is to change the way things are traditionally done in a democracy.

Watching him announce key appointments to cabinet and sub-cabinet posts makes one think that this is Bill Clinton redux. Mr. Obama has dug deep into the 1990s and resurrected much of the Clinton cast of characters, even to naming Hillary Clinton to be secretary of state.

That appointment, some have suggested, is Obama's way of emulating Lyndon Johnson. When LBJ named an old foe to a post in his administration, he explained that it was better to have the camel inside the tent urinating out, than outside the tent urinating in.

None of this satisfies the radical left that went bonkers trying to elect the man they thought would turn the White House into a new Kremlin and name all of them commissars of the new Socialist Republic of America.

Barack Obama, ardent disciple of the late Saul Alinsky, seems to have forgotten the iron-clad left-wing dictate -- "no enemies to the left." With every Clintonite or Wall Streeter appointment he makes a new enemy on the left.

What the Alinsky/Ayers crowd doesn't seem to understand is that Barack Obama's only acquaintanceship with government in action was his close relationship with Chicago's Daley machine, where its hallmark -- aside from its rampant corruption -- was devotion to pragmatism. If it works, do it; if it doesn't, don't.

Everything Mr. Obama has done in recent weeks since winning the election has been an exercise in pragmatism -- gone is all the heated rhetoric about change and reform. Everything is now measured by only one standard -- it must above all be practical.

What his disappointed leftist allies don't grasp is that many of those who voted for him thought he had a conservative message for them. Now with his appointments such as keeping Robert Gates at the Defense Department and naming Paul Volcker as a top economic advisor, he's delivering on what the voters saw as his conservative promises.

Unlike Bill Clinton, he's moving to the center before he takes office, and not two years afterwards as Clinton did. During the campaign I prayed he was lying when he unveiled his platform and promises of what he'd do as president.

I was hoping he lied about taxes. I was hoping he lied about ending the war in Iraq in 16 months. I was hoping he lied about all of those nutty left-wing programs he was promising.

It looks as if my prayers were answered.

I expect that he'll try to mollify his now-dejected left-wing supporters by tossing them a few bones. He'll push for the horrendous "Freedom of Choice" bill that would enshrine abortion as the supreme law of the land, overturning all restrictions on the grisly procedure previously enacted by the states; and trying to gag conservative talk radio hosts, for example.

I'm sure he knows that those attempts might be empty gestures if his party falls short of the 60 votes in the Senate they need to shut off debate on such measures, thereby allowing the Republican minority to use the filibusters to kill such measures so dear to the hearts of the so-called progressives.

What's happening is Obama's discovery that there is a big difference between running for president and being president. He is now up to date, up to speed, and getting all the information George Bush is getting -- and he having to make decisions based on that information.

As a result he and George Bush are now on the same wavelength. It's amazing what a little dose of reality will do to a man who dreamt dreams before he encountered the inescapable facts of life.

Welcome to Washington, Barack Obama.

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Michael Reagan, the eldest son of Ronald Reagan, is heard daily by over 5 million listeners via his nationally syndicated talk radio program, “The Michael Reagan Show.”
Once out of the abstract, life changes
"As a result he and George Bush are now on the same wavelength. It's amazing what a little dose of reality will do to a man who dreamt dreams before he encountered the inescapable facts of life"

Maybe Obama is willing to ingest new information and learn from it. Perhaps he will be interesting rather than catastrophic.

A leopard never changes its spots
Africans are right about that and Michael you are wrong about thinking Hussein has changed. He is what africans call a 'shifta'. A person whose position changes on the surface while waiting for an opportunity when it really matters to show his or her true colors. When Al Qaeda attacks americans in subways or other targets, Obama's anti-american beliefs that were taught to him by his mentors ayers, wright and rezko will be in full swing. Transition is a time when he has to listen to Axel Rod, so he is hiring Clinton's former team. His true beliefs have not changed, even though he wears a lapelle pin and hires a jew for chief of staff. When Iran attacks Israel, Russia poses a real threat to us using it's veto power in the UN to invade it's neighbors, Husssein's real beliefs and value system will be in display. A leopard never changes it's spots and when its instincts are displayed all will say - we wondered when that would happen. Hussein is still the same man who was mentored by wright, wanted to talk to Ahmedinejad and believed that the USA is arrogant. These views will soon be displayed when he is 'tested'.

To Old Social Worker:
Please,
The man is an accomplished liar. He bobs and weaves as he is proven wrong on all isues. You want to desperately elevate him above what he is. As a Washington insider he new exactly what the world political reality was yet he had no problem lying about it.He told you what you wanted to hear. He knew that his followers were stupid enough to believe him when he would say "I got new facts to act on". You have just proven him correct.

Mike has seen the light
It's not Obama who has seen the light, but those who forgot what is said on the campaign trail is totally different if elected President. Admit it Mike, you and a lot of others especially in talk radio predicted what Obama was going to do and knew who Obama was. The rest of Americans who voted for Obama were stupid. The only smart ones who knew the real Obama were in talk radio. Does Obama appear to be a Marxist, Manchurian candidate, a closet Muslim and an anti American now. This is what talk radio said about Obama. Don't forget, not only Democrats voted for Obama. Tell us Mike, how does it feel to eat crow. Is it better then turkey.

christian...

Ditto!

Barry's campaign insinuations sent a message to Terrorists, Thugs, and Dictators... The Light is Green!

Obviously the first leg has started.


Obama Pt. 2
It's a whole new Obama. I feel almost like we scored a victory instead of the Dems. The illuminati are reworking their plans faster than I can say "George Bush is a rock star!"

I wonder...
...if Code Pinko and Dhimmi Sheehan will soon be chanting outside "Rezko Manors" back in C-town like they did in Crawford.

"HELL NO!
HE WON'T GO!
OUT OF IRAQ!
YOU LIAR B.O.!"

"HEY - HEY,
WHAT DID YA SAY?
THAT CHI-TOWN MAN,
JUST ROLLED THE GAYS!"

"CLICK - TAP,
GET OFF MY PHONE!
GATES IN DEFENCE?
MAN, WE IS BONED!"

"NONE OF OUR 'ARTS',
HAVE MARTIAL WORTH,
BUT IF YOU'VE GOT SMARTS,
YOU'LL KEEP PARTIAL BIRTH!"

You may call Obama...
a pragmatist, or a "centrist", but that doesn't mean he isn't committed to the Democratic party ideology or won't try to implement it as much as possible. Typical of liberals he ignorantly believes he genuinely is change from Bush or Nixon or Hoover or any of these overtly statist Republicans. He and Bush are on the same wavelength, as you indicated, and that isn't good. It means continued economic decline for this country.

Obama v. Bush
"What's happening is Obama's discovery that there is a big difference between running for president and being president."

Something else might also have happened:
A possible looming Great Depression II.

"... he and George Bush are now on the same wavelength."

Then God help us all--particularly conservatives who want to defend American borders.

Thomas Andres
Sierra foothills

Still a Lyin' Lefty
Mike ... I admire you for thinking that all will work out for the better, but it won't. The One, The Obamessiah will continue the surge to socialism, if olny in a cleverly masked manner. I refuse to trust him, refuse to respect him (the office yes, the Obamessiah, no!), and will do all I can to stop him.

And by the way Robert ... What was so bad about good family values of Ozzie & Harriet and Donna Reed?

Obama not a NATURAL BORN US Citizen!
MORE INCRIMINATING EVIDENCE!!!

Here’s 2 responses back from South Carolina and Connecticut for request for records on Obama not being born on American soil:
1) South Carolina: RESPONSE FROM SECRETARY OF STATE SOUTH CAROLINA: PAY PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO PAGE 2 IN WHICH THE CHAIR OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY OF SOUTH CAROLINA [CAROL FOWLER] UNEQUIVOCALLY STATES THE CANDIDATES ALL QUALIFY FOR THE OFFICE IN WHICH THEY ARE RUNNING WHEN SHE'S NEVER SEEN OBAMA'S REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

2) Connecticut: RESPONSE FROM SECRETARY OF STATE OF Connecticut, BIG PROBLEMS WITH THIS FOR HER. He was supposed to be vetted BEFORE he ran for office - 3 months later her excuse is based on a PRESS CONFERENCE [not a court of law] where Hawaii officials never actually verified he was born in Hawaii - they only stated they have his original birth certificate "on file," and refused to answer if the original certificate of live birth was a Kenyan one or a Hawaiian one.

http://moniquemonicat.wordpress.com/secretary-of-state-resp onses-in-regards-to-request-for-obama-records/

America - you've been conned!

A Proud Reagan Conservative
I'm with you on this one.
First off, I never trust a Politician. They always fave a propencity to lie, especially when running for office. As often stated, "When running for office, they'll kiss your backside. After they are elected, you can kiss their's".
They often will change their game plan on the front side to please the situation but on the backside they are still the same.
Osama, "The One", "The Messiah", will never change what he truly is. A left-wing Liberal w/ programs that are ruinous.
He'll come across as a "leader" who will "solve" all the problems of the world but the "change" will be ruin.
I, too, have no faith in him nor do I have respect. He has no morals nor does his Party.
As I've said before, I'll pay my taxes as I'm co-erced to do so but I'll not support him or his administration, Clintonian or otherwise.
Waiting.
As someone else said, "A Leopard cannot (does not) change his spots".
Once a Lefty, always a Lefty.
The Demoncrat pigs are on the rise and we're in trouble.

Obama's spots
Two possibilities:

1. Obama is a devoted Marxist and will enhance the executive branch's power by an order of magnitude, or,

2. Obama is a political agnostic who only dreams of his own power and uses politics to attain that dream.

Either way, Obama ain't a nice guy. America will be the worse for having put him in the WH.

What Mike is Hoping For...
Dear Mr. Reagan,

We're all hoping what you hope: that the President-elect is narcissistic enough not to wish his presidency doomed to go down in flames. Clinton loved himself enough not to let that happen.

Regardless, Clinton betrayed our military and intelligence services, and he ignored foreign threats. Our national security is still at stake, our safety still uncertain.

Jim from VA
A little off topic, but related to your post; I just read this morning that China is set to execute two nationals for espionage.

In comparison, what does the US do to people caught selling secrets to China?..... Elect them to a second term as POTUS.

Ranger Bob says:

America has changed...it does that every 50
years or so...and while the right wing of the
GOP was trying to reinvent Ozzie and Harriet...
America moved on.

Robert
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and a great move it was Bobby,
*Ellen DeGenerate
*The View
*Quxxr Eye/Straight Guy

Ya Bobby, thats a great move there...
You sure are a wild and crazy guy arent you?

Carter/Clinton
It will be the Jimmy Carter, Jr. presidency with Clinton retreads in the administration. It will be change, alright. Back to the Carter/Clinton years. Get the popcorn ready! Make sure it is all buttered up because that will be the style of rhetoric we will get from them! Oh, and don't forget the cookies!

Michael - stop the lies
"...Everything Mr. Obama has done in recent weeks since winning the election has been an exercise in pragmatism -- gone is all the heated rhetoric about change and reform. Everything is now measured by only one standard -- it must above all be practical..."

It is you folks you said Obama was a leftwing extremist (in reality he was more right than Hil on many issues). Your first lie was that he was a leftist and now your second lie is saying he is BECOMING a pragmatist LMAO. All the while Obama is steady as a rock and has not moved. Obama is and has been a pragmatist. What you folks overlook is that Bush the torturer and indeed most of his regime are complete and proven incompetents. So wake up Michael and watch. Oh, you might try to stop the lies also

Imitation and popularity

Think about it.

The more Bill Clinton acted like Ronald Reagan and signed the Coservatives "Contract with America" into law, the more popular he became.

The more Barack Obama acts like G.W. Bush the more popular he will become.

Oh Liberals are not going to be happy about this.

Nice words, but...
What about YOUR dose of reality, Michael? Hussein is not a stupid guy...he figures the odds favor him having eight years to implement his agenda. Initially, these moves will appease much fear in the populace, and tick off his far-left mentors...but he has a plan...in order to establish that he is on top of his game, he must first attack the economic crisis and appear to be a clear-headed moderate or centrist. Be afraid...be VERY afraid.

Welcome to our World - Goppies
You idiots. Now that the hate veil(compliments 0f Limpbaugh, Hannity, Coltergeist, etc) has been removed from your scowling faces, you see what we "liberals" have known all along. You elect country first and party second. Isn't it nice to have a well organized, highly intelligent and fair person as our leader? Thanks, by the way, for George Bush. He will be a reminder for a decade about how blind the Republicans are to anything but individual issues rather that the collective good for the USA and the world. I have an idea. While President Obama changes the country, why don't you try changing yourself. Start by thinking for yourselves.

steady as a...uh rock...uh
Obama is steady as a rock. Ha ha ha hee hee. Pass the cool aid boys! Remember the con artist in the Music Man? Took money for uniforms, out slicked everybody, attractive, well spoken, could charm the wings off a bee, went after the librarian and after all of that....he had no clue about music to the extent of actually doing what he said he could do. His solution in every community that he ravaged was...THINK BAND, THINK.

That the world is ready to be snookered speaks more about THEM than it does about us. In the words of FDR, all we have to fear is....pleasing the world.

Grab those ankles and get ready for a nice ride.

Tell 'em what they want to hear,
-to get elected, then do whatever the hell you want to do.
I, too, have had the "hope" that Obama would "change" his rhetoric once he was given the facts about so many of the programs and policies of the Bush admin, those that he was going to reverse immediately.
It is so easy to second guess when you don't know what the hell you are talking about, amazing what the facts and alternatives can do to ones rhetoric and grandiose plans.
We can only hope Obama can see the light and act accordingly.
For the good and safety of America, Obama needs to rethink his energy policy, bankrupt the coal industry? How utterly stupid can he be? WE must have an "all the above" energy policy until we are able to smoothly flow into the total green economy. Anything less is going to spell doom for America.
May God and George Bush enlighten Barack Obama for the good of America.

Sorry Mike, I disagree
Obambi is what he is, an Alinsky acolyte and Ayers devotee, in short a marxist imbecile with delusions of adequacy. While his cabinet now definitely has the appearance of a third Clinton term he will attempt to move the country left and out of the center/right mainstream.

As far as the reality of DC goes, I think I might agree with that. DC has a strange way of changing everyone that goes there, it makes every politician a liar in one way or another. Reality vs. grandiose promises and utopian socialist dreams? I'll bet on reality, even DCs reality, every time. That really leaves the far left out in the cold, those radical dopers pipe dreams are being squashed before they see January 09. So sorry leftist radicals, thats really gotta bum your high.

On a sidenote, I think it hilarious that Obambi is already worrying about his second term. Like every professional politician he's already lining up that next job. Politicians are the lowest form of life on the planet bar none. I'd trust a used car salesman before I'd trust a DC politician or a federal government bureaucrat. The radical left is going to figure out what everyone figures out about politicians, they suck! So much for "HOPE, and "CHANGE" LMAO.

DON'T TREAD ON ME!

Underdog
"Date: Nov 29, 2008 - 8:16 AM EST Subject: steady as a...uh rock...uh
Obama is steady as a rock. ...That the world is ready to be snookered speaks more about THEM than it does about us...."

Oh no it says volumes about you and your ilk...inability to change, inability to adapt, inability to distingush reality from fantasy... I could go on and on but don't worry; it is clear you are "challenged". Good thing for you that we moderates and liberals believe in caring for all.


This is the hallmark of...
"The Clueless One" that we have elected to be President. He has NO qualifications for this position. Every person in his cabinet far exceeds him in their particular role, but the main quality he doesn't have is EXECUTIVE experience!

Pure and simple this idiot is the PUPPETMAN of his pragmatist cabinet.

The only reason that he has the office I believe is race. I saw the same thing in medical school. Spots in the class awarded because of affirmative action to many of the black students produced unqualified professional medical disasters.

Obamanista's/Clintonista's vs. Reality
As they create their own brand of Americka; both these two are following a path laid out by the mistakes of Stalin, Hitler, Castro, Ortega, et al. Sudden and swift change will only cause the populace to recoil in rebellion to new ideas. So those once tried will appear with a different look, title and above all at a time when conditions for the populace seems to be getting more dire,(at least that is what they are telling you to believe through their media propaganda machine). A few contrived situations and viola!!! What was floated by Clinton will resurface and now become a new way of life for the populace, like it or not. There really is no difference between the two and 8 years is not long enough to blind/hide facts. The reality is, this nation will face facts soon in the future, in that what once was working, even though not as proficiantly as the microwave world wanted, it was actually keeping us free and safe.Soon we wont worry about anythig but feeding ourselves, and hoping that we wont be their next example.

HAL
Hal, I truly believe that you have a twin brother here in this small southwestern Town in Az.

Both of you are in la-la land somewhere in outer-space.

Remember all your rantings and ravings on down the road when noboma slips and stumbles and falls flat on his face.

Even clintonites and pelosies and others of their ilk will stand back and let noboma take the fall without helping him.

Watch and see.

Obama
President-elect Obama has done an excellent job thus far---he's been more presidential than Bush in six years.

His economic team and cabinet are smart. Very smart, as he is. Let's all be thankful we have Obama rather than McCain who couldn't think his way out of an economic bag. Even if it was wet paper.

Will Obama
do anything about the Moslem homicidal manaics one he's in the WH? They attacked Bombay because they knew they could-but all BO had to say about it was how sorry he is for those American families who lost loved ones. I thought it sounded like yet another 'present' vote.

I will give him the benefit of the doubt and hope he's simply holding his cards close to his vest; that he will surprise them, going in gunz-ablazin'. I won't hold my breath, however.

Filibuster as political tool
I don't know why Republicans get all excited about the Democrats not having a filibuster-proof Congress. It's not as if the Republicans are strong enough to actually use the filibuster. They are weak, weak, weak. They instead want to "work across the aisle," and then they whine when the Democrats don't reciprocate.

Well, there ya go...
http://obamasresume.org/


We'll see
As far as I can tell, Barack Obama's first priority is the advancement of Barack Obama. No one knows what he's going to do. He probably doesn't know, himself.

What I DO know is that the media still has a crush on him. This means that he can do things that they hated when Bush did them. If he supports the new Iraqi government, you'll never hear it referred to as "a puppet government" again. If he gives a no-bid contract to Halliburton (as Clinton did), the press won't even cover it. If his budget causes unemployment in any sector, again, you won't read about it on CNN.

And thanks to Eric Schmidt, CEO of Google, most internet searches won't turn up anything discomfiting either.

Barring violent terrorist attacks, the only news we're going to hear for the next four years will relate to "ever increasing" gun-violence.

Ron
"Date: Nov 29, 2008 - 8:43 AM EST Subject: This is the hallmark of...
...The only reason that he has the office I believe is race. I saw the same thing in medical school. Spots in the class awarded because of affirmative action to many of the black students produced unqualified professional medical disasters..."

LMAO I guess you being from GA explains a bit of it. I guess living there you may have missed the whole race thing dying away. Heck most of the under 40 crowd really is colour blind. Race had little to do with Obama's win and certainly no more than JFK's win. The man is good. Too bad you are incapable of giving him a chance... By the way did you complete med school?

For God's sake, Hal....
... learn the difference between "lies" and "opinions", will you?

One thing is certain, though - for all the talk of "change", it sure does look like the Clinton administration all over again.

AliveInHim
"Date: Nov 29, 2008 - 9:26 AM EST Subject: Will Obama
do anything about the Moslem homicidal manaics one he's in the WH? They attacked Bombay because they knew they could-but all BO had to say about it was how sorry he is for those American families who lost loved ones. I thought it sounded like yet another 'present' vote...."

Nope that was your guy, Bush, who for the last nearly six years let the religious terrorists of Al Q run free to spread their knowledge like a virus. Until we learn to toss all religious "homicidal manaics" in the trash where they belong it will continue. obama certainly can do no worse than Bush the torturer who let them thrive.

threeputtindude
I'm sure it was unintentional and a well deserved slap of disrepect to ranger29 aka Roberta but, I post here as "Bobby". I despise the Roberta A**-hole as most of us here do. Try not to refer to this little turd as Bobby. Other folks might confuse the two of us.
I am surprised his posts are still here. They are ususlly removed by TH moderators by now.

einahteb
"This means that he can do things that they hated when Bush did them. "

Whoopee! Just think, that means he can invade a country of his choosing, abandon thousands of flooded Americans to their deaths and/or homelessness, corrupt the DOJ to staff it with sycophants who will then take their orders direcly from the white house; listen in on our connuications at his whim, establish human torture as government policy, override more than 250 legislative decisions, -- oh, I can't go on...I'm sure Obama is knows the list by heart and is just dying to get started on his own!

Primus54
"Date: Nov 29, 2008 - 9:44 AM EST For God's sake, Hal....
... learn the difference between "lies" and "opinions", will you?.."

Calling Obama an extreme leftist and a Marxist are lies, not opinion.

"...One thing is certain, though - for all the talk of "change", it sure does look like the Clinton administration all over again..."

Ah come on you want him to hire novices or only folks from IL? He wants to run a good government to do that you do need experienced leadership who will follow your guidence. So far I am pleased with his choices


lark
your post is a little confusing. Are you a far left weenie who is not happy NObama has not replaced the Stars and Stripes with a hammer and sycle? Or, a conservative coping by using the sarcasm.

While Obama...
While Obama is filling top slots of his Administration with politicians from the center, his agenda will be thrust forward by the hard-core followers in the lower levels of government who will be able to work under the radar to push his far left ideology. That is the bottom-up strategy that he learned as a community organizer and a strategy that links him with Hillary Clinton, who promoted the feminist goals of the Beijing Platform for Action through various task forces set up in the federal agencies following the U.N.’s Beijing World Conference on Women. Both of these leftist politicians have learned to speak the language of the masses while working behind the scenes on the policies of the radical left’s true believers.

I do not believe that Obama will, himself, immediately run to the “Left” and begin his Socialist agenda. That would alienate a majority of Americans, as well as some of those in his own party. Beyond his projections and deceptions, are the consequences which he plans to avoid? With Socialist policies now part of and in many ways the centerpiece of the Democratic Party disguised as “Political and Economic Justice” and “Investments in our Infrastructure and People”; along with the deaf, dumb, and blind media, Obama will watch as his cronies slowly begin his march to the “Left” and “Socialism”. Some of his supporters, formerly the logical and rational, will be first in line of deceived disappointers expressing remorse. They will awaken from the dream of all the good feelings that attracted them to Obama and face the hard realities of the Socialist agenda they enabled.

CONTINUED:
http://nkqx57a.blogtownhall.com/


Hal in PA
I see Hal Dumahue still has his head up his backside. Pull it out and take a look at the real world.

Hal "LMAO©" Donahue writes:

"Calling Obama an extreme leftist and a Marxist are lies, not opinion."
-----

In your opinion...

No We Can't
All during the campaign,it was;"YES WE CAN."
Now it is;I DON'T THINK SO.Ok all you Obama worshipers lets hold his feet to the fire. You have been leading the chorus,yes we can.How sad you have been fooled by a slick talker.How sad we all are going to suffer.Not because of him,but because of you who were fooled.He is already backing out on all those beautiful pictures he painted during the campaign.DID you really beiieve he could make the ocean levels recede.Have you already bought the Brooklyn bridge?The bridge he sold you is going to cost you more than he will be able to get from you, during one of the worst administrations since Jimmy Carter.Instead of ;yes we can,it will be;CAN WE STAND four years of a left wing radical,that cut his teeth on Chiago stile politics.Oboma will be the first black president and maybe the last.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice
SHAME ON ME
http://stopthepresses2.blogspot.com

Still to see
We are not a Democracy!
(Remember? Mobocracy? Founding Fathers?)

I only hope your right.
I think he's playing it cool until January.

Then he will show us that track record of
his wasn't for nuthin'!

MickeyG
"Date: Nov 29, 2008 - 10:11 AM EST Subject: Hal in PA
I see Hal Dumahue still has his head up his backside. Pull it out and take a look at the real world...."

I believe I said the same to you. FYI: I know the world, travel it often and have lived abroad.

kellerww
writes, "He will be a reminder for a decade about how blind the Republicans are to anything but individual issues rather that the collective good for the USA and the world. I have an idea. While President Obama changes the country, why don't you try changing yourself. Start by thinking for yourselves."

But, you just said we need to focus on the collective good for a while instead of individual issues. How is thinking for oneself going to help that? Isn't collectivism by definition subsuming individual thought to the collective good? What if I do think for myself, as you suggest, and the conclusions I reach are incompatible with what is determined by consensus of pols to be the collective good?

You seem to be suggesting that if only we would think for ourselves, we would all naturally come to the conclusion that we are being selfish and should therefore abandon our individual interests for the common good which, I guess, means believing whatever Pelosi, Reid, or Obama says since they were elected to be the deciders.

What a good democrat you are. Toe the party line for the collective good and pretend you thought up the idea all by yourself.

Sorry, ain't buying it...
Who did you think he was going to put in his cabinets? He couldn't have Soros and Ayres and keep calm around here? I know I am hoping that he is only half as bad as I think he will be and at this point there is no choice to accept it all anyways. But to think this isn't going to be "that bad?" Look, the economy is not the greatest and when you have someone who believes in fixing that by raising taxes you get the Jimmy Carter syndrome of complete ignorance who even nearly after taking us to a second depression, still defends the way he handled it. So comparing Obama to Carter doesn't ease my mind at all. In fact, all it says to me, is hang on to your boot straps and get ready for the ride.

Obama's move to the center right
is proof the conservative movement has won on almost all major issues, regardless of a democrat in office.

Anyone who watched this guy (Obama) in the primaries would have thought Hugo Chavez was his running mate. Now he looks more like a watered down version of W.

So all you depressed conservatives can take heart by the fact that Obama gets it, even if he doesn't believe it. We do not want Euro style socialism in this country.

President Reagan
I remember the same hopes from the left when Michael's father was elected - but a man of integrity, he delivered on what he promised. That is character. To run as a far left then put in a moderate administration sure makes us on the right extremely happy and overlook the character flaws that this demonstrates.

Phillip A
Houston, Texas

The Dichotomy of Disillusionment
Barack Obama is not a centrist. So he has a problem. He promised so much "stuff" that he has risen expectations so high he can't possibly fulfill them. What will happen when he doesn't start paying their mortgages and car payments? What will happen when he tries to portray himself as strong on defense instead of singing Kumbaya? (Was Biden actually talking to the far left when he said Obama would be tested and his reactions won't seem right?) What will happen when he doesn't tax the wealthy to trickle it down to those not even willing to work? What will the greenies do when he decides we either drill or go into a depression?

Do you think that his signing the law to kill babies and allow children to get abortions without parental consent and the maneuvers to eliminate conservative talk radio be it the Fairness Doctrine, Localism or Hate Speech will placate all those on the far left and that worshipping blacks will once again be willing to wait for their handouts readily promised by their Messiah? Hardly. He'll blame Bush from here to eternity but that won't help him with all the special interests looking for their piece of the pie that "he" promised.

Appearances
Obama has just shown to all, he is/was not who he projected himself to be. He is someone who will backstab the left supporters to get into presidential office.Besides, his modus operandi is that he may just be a "Present" President and not do too much of anything except give a good speech now and then. Most of the work will be done from his underlings just like a monarch does. More over he may just be a ghost president not willing to confront the real important issues such as the all to important national security issues. He may even not have confrontational conversations with real honest interviewers that can question his motives. Which brings to mind the prevalent questions on how he got to where he is ( non vetted information). A goodly percentage of voters still would like to know his real background, not manufactured or hidden and covered up. We know more about past presidents,even living ones, than we do of B. Obama. I wonder what post he will take after the presidency. Maybe as U.N. Secretary.

they said he said
The word that comes to mind about the take on Obama's 'move to the center' is PREDICTABLE.
Strictly translated that means -told you so.
Only the scalded rightistas were claiming ownership to the magic crystal ball that foretold a 'communist, socialist, left wing yada yada' form of government. Do you suppose that is what Obama meant by being called every name in the book. I think it is.
Relax zealots - God didn't put you in charge of saving the world.

And why not?
Obama has not been loyal to anything his entire life.
Obama has not been loyal to family, changing his name regularly.
Obama has not been loyal to religion changing from Christian, to Muslim, to Catholic, to who knows what.
Obama has not been loyal to country changing from British, to Indonesian, to maybe American?
This last change still has not been proven.

My point why would anyone think for a second this person Obama would remain loyal to anything?

He has never been loyal to the only things that matter in life, God, Family, and Country.

"Ranger Robert"

You are a broken record...

"Bush" - blah, blah, blah...

"Far right" - blah, blah, blah...


One thing you've got completely wrong is the number of military deaths - stats you've been shown ad nauseum.

You're just another mindless liberal.

Seen any single-rudder F-15s lately?

SUPREMES TO BE WATCHED THIS WEEK!
December 1st and December 5th...

Two big days for the Constitution this week. Decisions to be made on the movement of the Berg and Donofrio lawsuits.

Stand by for earth-shattering news!

Growing Pains
If Obama did what the far left loons wanted them to he’s political career would be over before it’s begun. That makes him practical, rational and as the loons start to make demands on the promises he made to them, they’ll make sure he hears them loud and clear. He has become a pragmatist because if went as far left as these jerks want him too, he would have only a 4 year Presidency such as Jimmy Carter. I’m sure he wants two terms, thinking logically but calculatingly he knows to keep the majority happy, clearly most Americans are not the radical left, he’s making the choice to go toward the center for his own selfishness and longevity in politics, if he wants his legacy to be more then the first black President. He’s willing to tick off a small minority than tick off a large majority.

He may have chosen the wrong Secretary of State by picking Hillary too soon, when Sean Penn seems to be so willing to spend his personal Thanksgiving and share it with the Castro family and get a tan in the warm weather of Cuba. Problem Sean, Cuba doesn’t celebrate an American Thanksgiving because they are not part of America, even though all your liberal friends in Hollywood continue to try. But, I’m sure Fidel and Raoul acknowledge your scarifies on behalf of their Country, by trying to broker a deal with them on behalf of a President-elect. Did you check with Barack before you left? Will you then chastise him and call him names the way you’ve done with Bush?

Of course Jimmy Carter was also trying to showcase his willingness to “audition” for the job this summer, by negotiating with Hamas. But, Jimmy had his shot ages ago and blew it royally, which was a shame our Country had to endure, as well as 52 Americans who were held hostage for 444 days almost half of your administration. Which does bowed well for your second audition? I thought American President don’t negotiation with terrorist?

Paul Volcker Raised Interest Rates to 22
Mike Reagan Hi: I do not believe Paul Volcker is great he raised interest rates to 22.5 percent during the Carter Administration which devastated many real estate companies. The oil embargo cuased the Hotel/Motel industry to tank during Carter's term.Volcker was in bed with Kofi Anan and many back room deals with Saddam ensued.
The driveby media paint a whole different picture of Volcker who palled with Bert lance during the Carter years. I like your column but you were too kind to Volcker. Jerry White, Springfield, IL

The Impact of Greed and Congress
America has used economic sanctions to de-stabilize foreign governments, now Congress in it's bid for power, de-stabilized the American Economy causing what may very well be a Global Economic Crisis! Talk of withdrawal, assurances of success in the War on Terror, including downscaling the Military, seem fruitless, didn't the Clinton Administration do the very same thing, leaving the incombant President ill prepared to defend American interest here in the United States, as well as abroad, lacking manpower and resources. Define Corruption, now define Congress.

Barack’s Clintonistas
Obama has not served even one day as President and pundits like Reagan are already jumping to the conclusion that he will govern from the center.

What is M. Reagan’s evidence for his premature claim? Clintonista appointments.

Obama knows how important it is to have experienced managers at the helm of the different departments of government. If he doesn’t put experienced people in these positions he won’t be able to control the Washington bureaucrats. Without control of these paper pushers, who almost always have their own private agendas, Obama can’t effectively implement his own agenda, whatever that agenda may be.

Where does M. Reagan suppose that Obama might have found such experienced high level government managers? He certainly couldn’t hire a bunch of goofy commie college professors like Ward Churchill. They might be ideologically satisfying but they haven’t managed government agencies. The bureaucrats would walk all over them.

Because Obama has never served in any capacity as a government executive, he has never before formed his own cadre of managers with high level government experience. Obama has no choice but to choose Clintonistas. He is even reaching back to the Carter administration.

There was simply nowhere else he could go to for help.

However, this in no way implies they Obama will govern from the center. Too many people continue to believe that Obama himself will be handled and managed by those around him. They also falsely believe that circumstances will leave him with no choice but to govern from the center.

Obama will be the one giving the orders and those around him will obey. He is not going to be anyone’s puppet. Obama has been preparing to govern from the far left his whole life.

It is foolish for M. Reagan to prematurely draw such conclusions as he has done here.

Ranger29 bites the dust again...

Please find anywhere in my post where i said "combat" deaths.

All too easy...

Wes (AZ) @ 9:14 AM
Man, I really hope you are right!

Two Peas in a Pod.
Bush ran as a "compassionate conservative", and Obama ran as the "change candidate". Bush convinced everyone to ignore what he did before the age of 40, and Obama convinced everyone to ignore his past before the age of 40 or so as well.

And enough members of the public bought these lines - to get them both elected.

It turned out that Bush was not a conservative nor a right winger, and it will equally turn out that Obama is not a liberal nor a left winger.

The only ideology either one have is "Power". And the only intent they had or have was to get elected a second time.

So, they both chose the center. Bush bought off the right with two supreme court nominations and other judicial nominations, and by opposing stem cell research, and Obama will buy off the left with Supreme court nominations and judicial nominations, and health care.

Both stand on the same side of immigration - as both want to capture the hispanic vote.

Twiddle dee has been substituted for Twiddle dum.

Those on this board that still hold firmly to their ideas of Obama as a "left-winger" will be as wrong as those on the left who held firmly to their belief of Bush as a right-winger.

And so it goes. It's all about Power - that's it.

Michael Reagan ....
is a typical selfish right-wing Republican dick. That's really all there is to it. Obama was never leftist, in fact I have lived in this country for over 13 years and I have met only one person during that time who described himself as a socialist. The problem with the Republicans is that more and more they have become a party of Jesus-freaks and idiots, unable to deal with reality. One thing we Europeans never understand is the obsession that people in this country have with religion. The bible is not more than a collection of fairy tales, get over it!

Fact are facts, Ranger...

And the fact is that military personnel had a greater chance of dying in training accidents, equipment failures & two unauthorized excursions under Clinton than they have under Bush - including an authorized shooting war.

Just because you don't like the facts doesn't change them.

And I think it is a HOOT how you defend that sophomoric draft-dodger Clinton - even as you play make-believe military man.

The libs will be singing a
different tune after we get another 9/11 attack to "test" this fool.

I can hear it now, "I thought he could talk to them" ignoring the fact that our enemies are nothing more than rabid animals incapable of rational thought.....kind of like liberals when you get right down to it.

This guy is a closet communist, I won't even give him the benefit of the doubt, he will use these crises' to grow this gov't beyond the ability of anyone who comes after him to stop it.

How do you cut welfare when there are thousands employed to give our money away?
The dems have always been in bed with the unions, after a few dog and pony shows, they will use our tax dollars to bail out the union pension funds.
The companies were forced to accept all these union goodies and if they go belly up so what? It was the workers who struck to get the goodies and now they killed the goose.

Bambi will load the courts with others of his ilk and the country will be what he wants it to be and these fools voted for him and now they brag about it...you voted to destroy your childrens birthright you morons.

I have watched this country slowly decline for over 50 years because of liberals and I despise them for it.

Obama's America
Michael Reagan is right. Obama is a product of the Daley machine and will be as corrupt as he can get away with. And, yes he will try to shutdown cnservative talk radio and make all types of abourtion legal (remember he even stated he wouldn't want to burden his daughter with an unwanted child!). That's not all; he will reduce the military, cease spending on outerspace warfare (which we have the monopoly on). Our national security will be in peril; we can expect more terrorist attacks. And don't forget the firearms issue. His record proves, beyond doubt that he will attempt to ban as many firearms as he can get away with (which he may regret).

Obama won because of the fact that too many of the electorate are politically ignorant, e.g., some don't know who the Speaker of the House is, who the Vice-president is, etc. We are in for some bad time.

Well, at least is good that Obama isn't pompously arrogant like some politicians. What's this new office I see - Office of the President Elect? I can't find mention of it in the Constitution, in the Decleration of Independance, nor the Articles of Confederation! I can't even find it anywhere in my old college history and government books. Maybe His Majesty can tell us where to look! Yes, we'll soon have a president that's a sociolist liberal, inexperienced, a flip-flopper, and to boot, a wife that's proud of her country for the second time in her adult life. We better pray that the senate doesn't become fillerbuster proof. If not we have a chance of curtailing the remaking of a sociolist America. God bless America!

Primus54
It's useless to argue with those who take their marching orders from DU, KOS, MoveOn, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, all of which are confirmed propaganda organs of the left. Ranger Robbie thinks he's smart because his ideological masters told him it's smart to be left. He's a follower, not a leader, he's never been a Ranger, a real Ranger would never allow someone else to do his thinking for him.

"Wobbie" is a true believer, he has no room in his mind for anything else. He argues ad nauseum against whatever he's against at the moment. If you follow this clowns posts on various topics he can be for and against something simultaneously on the same day. Truth, logic, and reason are meaningless to him. I refuse to answer his posts.

In the past my "conversations" with liberals have gone like this. I present a salient point supported by objective fact, the other half of the "conversation" presents unsupported dogmatic tripe pulled out of thin air, the "conversation" rapidly devolves into name-calling with each party attempting to get the last word and thus the "win" in their minds.

It's a waste of time, ignoring this smooth brained fool would be better. You know he'll never see it your way. He'll eventually go away, when he no longer gets a rise. Ranger Robbies and the rest of the ignorant liberals posts are beneath contempt.

DON'T TREAD ON ME!

BHO!
barry learns, the cia and others tell the president what to do!barry cant just change stuff on his own,thank GOD.

Incremental socialism
You're dreaming if you think B-Ob is going to govern from the center. He campaigned from the hard left; it was shown that in the past he was from the hard left. There's no "center" about this guy.

Mike Huckabee was correct in saying that B-Ob is an "incrementalist." That is, he won't swing hard left at first because of the outcry it will cause. No, like the frog in the pan of water, he will turn the heat up gradually--appearing to be "center"--and then, by the time we all realize it, it will be too late to get out of it--welcome to the United Socialist States of America.


Maverick has it right
Obama has moved to the center only in the minds of my friends on the right. Many of them had spent way too much time listening to the partisan pundits on talk radio and elsewhere (like Michael Reagan). They convinced themselves that Obama was a socialist, a leftist ideologue, a radical terrorist sympathizer or worse. And now when it turns out not to be true, they fool themselves once again by thinking it is Obama that has changed.

If they had taken the time to read his books, examine his speeches or listen to what he was saying on the campaign trail, they would have learned he was a very centrist, moderate guy. He has always been much more dedicated to pragmatism and practicality than to implementing any group's agenda. I know this seems odd after eight years when ideology trumped everything else, even when it was shown the ideology was taking us in the wrong direction.

In that very important respect, Obama and Bush are not on the same wavelength at all. Obama is the anti-Bush many of us had hoped to see, a man more dedicated to confronting the challenges America faces than to implementing an ideology.

Yes, he's appointing Clintonistas, maybe more than I would like, but where else is he going to find experienced people? He's also dipped heavily into George H.W. Bush's foreign policy team with people closely allied to realist Brent Scowcroft, like Robert Gates and James L. Jones to head his national security team. And to head his Economic Recovery Advisory Board he has chosen Paul Volcker, first appointed Fed Chairman under Ronald Reagan.

These are not the selections of an ideologue. They are the choices of a man searching for the best advice, wherever he can find it. That is the kind of change that Amerians wanted to see, an attempt to end the bitter partisan divisions and political blame game that have prevented us from solving the many problems we face. That is the kind of change I can believe in.

Dream On...
...if you think the obamathug is "centralizing".

When stinky greid and nazi pelosi are done with fixing the re-counts and the crats get their 60 majority, the real soros/obama will re-emerge -

Remember, he has to play it cool 'till his crooked friends produce another, better quality, fake birth-certificate...

As for Clinton, soros/moveon.org owns her too.

Primus54
"Date: Nov 29, 2008 - 12:46 PM EST Fact are facts, Ranger...

And the fact is that military personnel had a greater chance of dying in training accidents, equipment failures & two unauthorized excursions under Clinton than they have under Bush - including an authorized shooting war."

You fool LOL If all goes well we WANT to lose more folks in training than combat THAT is what the RED FLAG and TOP GUN programs are all about. Make the mistakes now and reduce loses and increase effectiveness in combat. Guess what it works. Your stats are silly stats but they do point out one thing of import - the military is becoming untrained (guess what training becomes more not less important during wartime)

"...And I think it is a HOOT how you defend that sophomoric draft-dodger Clinton - even as you play make-believe military man."

This real military guy defends Clinton heck the results of both the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq (both Clinton's military) prove beyond a doubt they were ready. At least Clinton admits his dodging Bush the torturer "disappeared" when his unit began converting to fighters used in Vietnam. I guess events since have proved who was the better man

Islam's final conquest-America
Barack is not only a product of the corrupt Chicago political machine he is also Islam orientated to the depths of his soul..Barack attended Muslim schools before age 12.. He lived among Muslims and Islamic teachings till age 12.. Many of his own family members were Muslims including his step father...His friends after age 12 included and still does include many Muslims and former Muslims.
The fact is, a personality is formed before age 12...So the teaching of Islam dwells deep in the heart and mind of Barack HUSSEIN ...
The problem with this is that Islam teaches world domination and the conversion of all people on earth to Islam or death..DEATH IS BETTER THAN ISLAM and many have chosen death through out the last 1400 years and continue to do so..
Muslims have all the cunning of the serpent.. They knew they could not beat USA in military warfare so they have joined us
Brainwashing one is quite simple.. You simply get one to believe in you and trust you.. and then the seeds you drop into their minds bypass their critical thinking processes and enter their subconscious effortlessly..Barack did exactly this to masses... and has sit himself up as a messiah..But those that really know God know god's enemy always comes claiming he is God likewise allah or Barack....I hope the world is ready for a rough ride... The terrorists demons have only just begun..
One last comment...The pharisees who had Jesus killed (herod too) were not of Israel.. These were Arabs and of Ishamel and Esau's descendants.. They were forced into Judaism prior Jesus... Their doctrines as recorded in the Gospel is the exact same doctrine as today's Islam...These were identified as anti christ in 1st John 2..They are still anti christ...

Ranger Robert
From what part of the Twilight Zone did you come?
Or is it Planet Nine. Perhaps the air mixture in your space suit is a little off.

seawolf predicts?
One after another wornout cliche to support more crystal ball gazing prophesies as if this was a sporting event - TH is loaded with Fantasy Politics
players. Who grew the government? Who ran congress for 10 of 12 years. Does the name Tom Delay mean anything to you? Phil Gramm? No, the loud uninformed are not going to bring back the mess that was just voted out. Not for a long long time.

Frank


I do know what Obama is .I am, after all, a social worker, and understand very well that Great Society policies are why we have current the social and fiscal messes and dim future. However, I also know how opportunists like Obama work, and they tend to want to fatten the goose before the kill. Obama knows that there has to be a sense security (albeit false) and some success in order to lead this nation further into socialism. So, I think this term will be interesting- and will initially appear successful.

I do not think there is any turning back to what America once was. I am not pleased, but also see that most of the citizenry doesn't know what we are losing and doesn't understand the proper role of gov't. I must unhappily settle for interesting rather than immediately catastrophic .

Conservatives have the last laugh
I'm hoping the filibuster will reduce Obama's most destructive policies to mere symbolic gestures--and it looks like that will be the case.

It's better that we have a liberal president that is unable to deliver the liberal agenda--then to have the moderate McCain totally put the nail in the coffin of conservatism by compromising our principles as a lame duck president with no majorities in the house or senate.

We win. Thinking people usually do.

Lies
The most consistent narrative in this election is that Obama lies. I, too, was concerned that he lied to the electorate to get into office so he could pursue a wildly leftist agenda. Instead, he lied to the left so he could win the primary and then (hopefully) pursue a pragmatic agenda. Either way, he lied. He promised a new type of politics and that was also a lie. He merely elevated the old politics to a new level of artistry.

Laugh at what
So you believe that a filibuster is an accomplishment? Then you will certainly deserve the 5% approval rating that comes with it. Next election cycle - out you go.

olsocialworker has perspective. thanks.

HANG ON
Dont blame me, I voted for the 'Cuda!

"Office of the President Elect?"
What is this? Is it just me or is this guy extremely arrogant?

Has anyone ever seen this title before in a newly elected candidate?

You haven't, because it is no where in the Constitution, and he is technically not the POTUS-elect until the second Wed. of Dec, when the electoral collage convenes and officially names him so.

Now, an alleged Constitutional law professor (which he was not also, he was an adjunct lecturer, a sub, not a professor) should have known this, again, the arrogance. Bush was always called arrogant, a cowboy. We have seen nothing yet.

Question
Why didnt the real RIN and deed work for Kucinich?
I did and I am an Independent.
Or Guiliani? If the conservative message is so righteous why didnt it produce a candidate that could explain it? My take is that there are so many competing versions of it. And then you have guys like Limbaugh and Hannity who make a living confusing the issues and creating disunity.
If the Republicans dont get it together Ms. Palin might run as an Independent and shame us all.

The obvious questions are...
Is his legal name Barack Husssein Obama?

Was he ever legally named Barry Soetoro?

If he was, when did he change his name and did he do it legally?

If he did it legally, then where are the court papers, the birth certificate, the college application papers?

In fact where is there any documentaion proving who he is to the Amercan people?

Is he Barack Hussein Obama or is he Barry Soetoro?

Will the REAL Barack-Barry Hussein Obama-Soetoro please stand up?

Anyway, I cannot wait until we undo ALL of his LAWS - especially his EXECUTIVE ORDERS because he is NOT a NATURAL BORN US CITIZEN and not elegible to be POTUS.

BTW, Don't you just love his choice for Secretary OF the IRAQ War - BUSH'S boy ROBERT GATES?

THAT's change you can believe in, for sure!

Ranger Robbie & Telephone Col. Donahue
Robbie - There is little doubt that Bubba Clinton was too busy getting Lewinskis to do anything meaningful to prevent Osama Bin Laden and his ilk from planning and subsequently executing their 9/11/2001 plan. So those 3,000 dead souls can be laid directly at Clinton's door.
Telephone Colonel Donahue - As an Air Force retiree who spent seven years in the Air Defense business, I can tell you it takes a lot of "stones" to strap your butt to the ejection seat of an F-102, which is what George W. Bush did regularly. What did you strap your fat butt to? I only ever worked on aircraft with election seats for 16 years and bet I have as much or more time in such seats as you do. Of course nearly all my time in such seats was on the ground with the seat safety pins in, but I think that experience in working on a wide variety aircraft gives me some credibilty when I say I admire George W. Bush for his willingness to strap on an F-102.

What color shirts ...
should the Obama / Gates civilian military force wear?

I'm thinking that brown is too obvious, and will tend to make people think that we are veering into a police state.

So how about a lovley lavender polyester.

Something sensible and easily cleaned is just the ticket.

I've seen a single rudder F-15 lately
Primus, Believe it or not I've seen a single rudder F15 lately. It was while we were down in Houston a few weeks ago. Really, I'm not kidding.

We saw it at the Wal Mart around the corner from Wobbies house. There was an adult crammed into it(in spite of all the kids lined up for a ride), feeding it endless quarters, and shouting Up, Up and Away, Wanger Wobbie flies again.

OOPS, Did I forget
To put SPEW ALERT at the top of my last post??

My bad, so sorry.

Rocky
"Date: Nov 29, 2008 - 3:32 PM EST Ranger Robbie & Telephone Col. Donahue
Robbie - There is little doubt that Bubba Clinton was too busy getting Lewinskis ...So those 3,000 dead souls can be laid directly at Clinton's door..."

Why do you ignore the Bush regime's nearly eight months in power? Why do you overlook the fact that counterterrorism was downgraded as an FBI and Treasury priority? Why do you overlook that the attorney general was personally supervising hanging $15,000 drapes to cover the statue Justice right around 9/11? Just a few innocent questions LOL

"...Telephone Colonel Donahue - As an Air Force retiree who spent seven years in the Air Defense business, I can tell you it takes a lot of "stones" to strap your butt to the ejection seat of an F-102, which is what George W. Bush did regularly..."

See here you go again I didn't say a darn thing bad about F-102 guys at all. They did a great job and a lot of them converted and went to Vietnam too. Go back and read what I wrote.

".., What did you strap your fat butt to?..."

Primarily the F-4 but I have time in many different types of equipment from the old T-33 to the British Tornado.

"...I only ever worked on aircraft with election seats for 16 years and bet I have as much or more time in such seats as you do. Of course nearly all my time in such seats was on the ground with the seat safety pins in, but I think that experience in working on a wide variety aircraft gives me some credibilty when I say I admire George W. Bush for his willingness to strap on an F-102..."

Thank you for your service and thankfully I never had to check out the quality of your work but your record is outstanding. Thank you. Again I critized when he left not what he flew

Mike, I was thinking the same thing
"Office of the President Elect". It's bizarre, I've never seen that before.

And remember when Bush first got elected, they referred to him as Governor Bush, not president elect--or "Mr. Bush".

Even the media seem to be obsessed with the term 'president-elect'--they use it at least three times in every sentence.

Relax Obamunists...he'll be president in a few weeks, with the seal, the office, everything. Stop hopping around like you gotta pee.

No$
Nobody is saying the filibuster is an accomplishment. But with a democratic monopoly, the only check and balance available in the legislature IS the filibuster. A traffic light isn't an accomplishment, but it does deter recklessness.

America voted for 'change', but misinterpreted it to mean 'a cure for all that ails you'...when in truth, the Saul Alinski disciple Obama had a radical subtext that is far beyond what your average Obama voter understands or realizes.

Anyone that was paying attention, and anyone that knows the economic idiocy of Obama's style of change, can hold on to the filibuster as the only thing standing between total economic and social collapse and social-economic SANITY.

Mike - look before post
Yes there is an office of the President Elect.
It goes back a ways and doesnt need to be Constitutional. Try looking under another rock.

Robbie Ranger, how many chances
did Bubba have to get Bin Laden and failed to do it? If you cut the head off the snake, the body will die. And my point about Lewinsky was that Bubba's prediliction to engage in illicit activities was evidence of HIS mindset, not mine. Bubba left Bush a mess to deal with in so far as dealing with terrorist organizations and Bubba's failures resulted, directly, in the 9/11/2001 attacks on American soil.

Wishful Thinking
Obama is not moving to the center. I don't call Emanuel, Roberta Achtenberg, Cecilia Munoz of La Raza centrists.

Don't believe what the evil Karl Rove is saying. I'm surprised Michael Reagan fell for that nonsense.

Rocky
Did I answer your questions alright?

Rocky: Ignore The Bedwetter
It's best to ignore Wobbie. He is living a Walter Mitty life. In addition to that, he is practically illiterate. He is a bedwetter and he knows it.

Ranger 29
I am leaving shortly for a family christianing but I hope all is well with you and yours

I made no reference to YOUR butt
in any way. And what challenge are you talking about? I issued no challenge to you. Read the freakin' messages - if you are capable of doing that. Me thinks he doth protest too much. Got a guilty conscience? What the heck kind of generalization is that to make "... the right wing ... who are old and fat."? Do you personally know every "right winger" in the country? That makes as much sense as saying every military wannabe named Robert from Texas rode to school on the short bus. Right?

Amazing isn't it?
Wobbie the Wetarded Wanger, whose hatred of his alleged "Commander in Chief," President Bush, knows no bounds, "Marvels" at how much someone hates Billy Bob Clintoon, the DRAFT DODGING Coward in Chief from '93-'01.

Wobbie, can you say HYPOCRITE? Cuz that's exactly what you are. In addition to being one of the biggest liars to ever draw a breath.

Speaking of combat deaths....
In BHO's Chicago this year we have had more people murdered than soldiers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan combined.(Mayor Daley's boy admirably joined the Army Rangers and just returned from Afghanistan,maybe he wants to reurn so he can feel safe) We've also got a 10.25%sales tax,$8 packs of smokes and the highest gas prices in America. We have a special jail cell ready for our Demo governor, as soon as GWB pardons the old Repub one. I may like the idea of being more like Chavez'Venezuela,....couldn't be any worse than this crap.

That's right Rocky
Clinton had far fewer chances to get Obama than Bush did.
Just ask Wobbie the know it all who conveniently keeps leaving out the small fact that the Sudan offered to turn bin Laden over to Clinton on five or six different occasions, and he declined to take him, always with a lame excuse for not doing so.

That was also five or six more times than they(the Sudan) offered to hand bin Laden over to George Bush.

New Parody on GITMO
my Blog. enjoy

Wanger Wabbie

"Dragnut", starring Jerk Wobbie...



This is the City. Baghdad, Iraq.

It was cloudy and hot in Iraq today.

I was working the day watch out of secret intelligence.

My partner is hul donkyhoo.

I get a phone call.

A voice says, "We have a secret mission."

I say, "Just the facts ma'am."

The voice screams at me, "This is Hal you idiot!"

Rush hour traffic was heavy, so we flew my Black Helicopter today.

The tolls were five quarters for 25 minutes. (TNX Walmart for 'Frequent Flier Miles')

The mission we were on, was sooo secret, they didn't even tell us.

We were really hyped up.

We were also confused.

My name is Wobbie Wabbit.

I'm an Navel Admiral. Admiral of my Navel.

I contemplate it daily.

I tried to be a Texas Ranger, but my IQ is only 29, so I became a Navel Admiral.

Oops, Sorry, I have to bug out.

(I'm going to Wiki to copy-paste smart-stuff now.)



I also contemplate Wonder Woman, my inflatable Doll.

~~~

After the Commercial break, and sweating profusely, Wobbie Wabbit returns...

"All you neo-cons are stupid! I hate Ann Coulter, and I hate Michelle Malkin!"

"Pant, Pant, Pant... Wonder Woman was excellent..."



Ranger 29's got bad intel
The aspirin factory that Clinton bombed in the Sudan was never proven to be anything more than an aspirin factory.It was part of a flurry of cruise missiles sent off by slick Willie, in which he bombed five countries in a two week period, Sudan,Serbia (oops, sorry about that Chinese embassy!),Bulgaria (an accidental errant cruise missile),Iraq(encouraged Saddam to move his WMD's to Bekaa Valley,Lebanon), and Afghanistan (who was tipped off when Bubba called Pakistan to ask permission to use their air space, effectively blowing up the Al Qaeda jungle gym,after OBL got 50 miles away)
I am not sure if Madeline not-at-Allbright even knew that the KLA WAS the heroin dealing wing of Al Qaeda when she started passing out AK-47's to them.(SHe also suffered from incredibly bad intel)

Hats off to Ratas y Ratones
You sir, have a talent!

Are you just as funny in Castellano?

how about an example
of how Obama is going to push through his socialist agenda.
He will not overtely do anything himself. He will have all of his minions doing all the leg work, lobying, rallying, brainwashing the children in public schools and collages, and also on TV. He will make sure that HE is never the one who makes the move, or suggests that we take on more and more socialist rules as a "safety" or "Security" measure for the country. In Fact. He will be RELUCTANT when passing the initiatives, and put on a long suffering face, and say "If YOU are SURE that YOU want this, then I HAVE NO CHOICE but to give it to you."
and the Majority of the brainwashed Sheeple will CHEER and applaud as FREEDOME dies.

Hal
I "spend my life" helping kids navigate our incredibly sick and destructive "child protective" and mental health system (everyone's bipolar these days). Its well worth it and i wouldn't change a thing.

As for being a wasp- you've never seen me! "Wasp" wouldn't come to mind!

You are right, Louiselouise.
It's a total waste of time to try to argue intelligently with either Robbie Ranger or Telephone Col. Donahue. Sometimes I think they are one and the same person. Or at least they get their talking points from the same source. They have their minds, such as they may be, made up and no amount of facts are going to confuse them. I can accept their opinions and mine differ greatly on many subjects and I am comfortable logical thinking people will share most of my opinions. Of course applying the terms logical and thinking to brain addled liberals is a hopeless endeavor.

By the way, Telephone Col. Donahue is going to a "christianing". Is that something like a Musliming, or a Jewishing? His writing skills are not typical of an Air Force Lt. Col - what a dope.

We need Obama $$ to win in Georgia
When Obama's party has 60 votes in the Senate, he and his party are 100% responsible for every word of every ACT. If he is not as pragmatic as Reagan perceives, but jumps to bring his text book idea of true social justice to all, then it will all soon be on the books. Not even the Soviet theft in 1917 will hold a candle to the impact!

The current economic mess took years to create and both major parties contributed heavily to it. But give us 100 days of fast action by Pelosi and Reid signed by Obama and bingo. The only surprise remaining will come when the real Obama birth certificate undoes it all before a new revolution becomes the only way out.

DIAMOND Z

DIAMOND Z
Location: TX
Reply # 80
Date: Nov 29, 2008 - 1:02 PM EST BHO!
barry learns, the cia and others tell the president what to do!barry cant just change stuff on his own,thank GOD.


~~~

DIAMOND Z "OUCH! That Brand Has To Hurt!"

Good work! You finally got your 'Caps Lock' key unstuck.

Next lesson...

At the bottom center of your keyboard is the longest key on your board.

It is usually called a 'Space Bar'. I told one poster about this a few months ago and he spent the night wandering his town looking for this Kool Bar where aliens hung out.

No. Its purpose is to make reading YOUR posts easier for us. But, You must participate.

Here is how it works: Right after you type a Period . Or an Exclamation Mark !
You must hit the space bar at least once. That is correct. Every time.

Please begin using this valuable tool. Will it help you? Only to the extent that your faithful readers, Me, for one, and many others I am sure, based on your great comments and clear thinking.

MANY of us admire your posts!


The Always Helpful Wharf Rat


Aimee
"Obama is going to push through his socialist agenda."

Has no one told you about Bush Socialism?

Isn't the $750 Bush-Bolshevik bank bailout Socialism? The Republican party is very similar to the Bolshevik party in Russia circa 1917.

Russia was governed by a tri-umvirate of three men called Vladimir Lenin, Leon Trosky and Joseph Stalin.

Today, Republican-Bolsheviks are George Bush, Hank Paulson and Ben Bernanke.

And now the Republican wealth-redistribution continues. Today, I read that banks, having received their first $250 billion installment of taxpayer monies, are distributing it to their sacred stockholders in the form of dividend checks.

Another item on the banker's list on how to best use the taxpayer's money, is to partake in some lucrative Mergers and Acquisition activity. Oh, these Bush-Bolsheviks are clever in their wealth redistribution. Now, I'm beginning to think the term 'Bush-Fascists' is more apropos. What do you think?


No Such Animal
NO$ scrawls left-handed with a pink crayon on yellow paper:

"Yes there is an office of the President Elect.
It goes back a ways and doesnt need to be Constitutional. Try looking under another rock."

If in fact there IS an "Office of the President-Elect", No$, then why is this the first time we've ever seen a President-Elect speaking from a podium bearing such a logo?

No, No$, there isn't any such "office". This is a total construct of Obonzo and his media sycophants who are such a rush to get him into office they've suggested every way of pushing the CURRENT President aside except executing him.

And Hal Dumbohue and Wobbie Wanger 29, before you two idiots get any ideas, remember that executing leaders who are leaving office is something they do in banana republics and communist dictatorships.

We don't do that here in America.

If you and the rest of your hateful leftist ilk wanted to live in a banana republic or a communist dictatorship so badly, you should have moved to Venezuela; that way, you'd have the best of both worlds. And it would certainly have been better--for all of the rest of us, anyway--than trying to turn America into a banana republic and a communist dictatorship, which is what Obonzo, Nasty Pelousy and Grimy Harry Greed are going to be spending the next four years doing.

Seriously, how much could a one-way ticket to Caracas have cost you guys?

"Ranger Robert"

I have to admit - you have given me some real belly laughs today.

Imagine YOU chastising someone for "hating" a President.

That's one of the best examples of "pot, meet kettle" I've read in a long time.

Tell you what. When you gain some credibility for any of your outrageous biographical claims, you can lecture me on military matters.

In the meantime, you will continue to be known as Townhall's #1 Fraud.

WAY Down South

Location: HI
Reply # 123
Date: Nov 29, 2008 - 6:27 PM EST Subject: Hats off to Ratas y Ratones
You sir, have a talent!

Are you just as funny in Castellano?

~~~

Kind sir, or Ma'am,

Your Nom de Plume gives no gender clues.

I must assume you are in Hawaii, and therefore sweating. I am in Indiana, and chilling out, to coin a phrase. Brrr! 20 Degrees here, and snow forecast for tomorrow.

I was there in 1962 for 3 weeks, and again in 1964 for 3 weeks. USN, 1960-1966.


I am happy when folk call me funny as I would rather be funny than bitter.

Re: your comment... "Are you just as funny in Castellano?" ??

I am Bi-Racial, but not bilingual. Are you referring to the language spoken in Northern Spain?

My Brother lives in Mexico with his Mexican wife, and is moderately familiar with Spanish as spoken there. I wonder about his proficiency, as I had to tutor him in Latin when he was a Senior, and I was in the Sixth grade. I retained more of the latin than he did, and I still know very little about it.

Such is life.

I have observed that Philipine Spanish, mixed with Tagalog, Mexican Spanish and Espanol Spanish all have differences.

No, I am not proficient in any of them.

I learned long ago that once someone's mind is made up, it is not possible to educate them. The Leftists know this too. That is why they start the indoctrination as soon as they can, in Pre-School.


Therefore, I just try to poke fun at them.




Rattus Americansis, Ret.

DON'T BE FOOLED BY THE FOOLS!
NEW SOCIALIST/COMMUNISTIC DEMOCRATIC DEFINITION OF CHANGE: SAME OL’ SAME OL’
======================
Looks to me that the “Messiah of Islam” is up to his old standards of lying.

Promised “change” to all you who voted for him?

Said Washington was broken and needed to be fixed with “new” blood?

It looks to me that he has just resurrected the old “Clinton” machine with the old Jimmy (Hamas) Carter policies.

You call that change? I call it lying!

=====================
JUST ANOTHER CHAPTER IN THE “REIGN OF BARRY HUSSEIN“!


WAY Down South

I put a couple of spoofs about the "GREENS, AKA Druids" on Doug Giles column.

I am, of course, certain that none of the fools will see anything relating to their idiocy in those posts.

I can laugh, but i do wish I could explain it to them in words they understand without the need for me cursing.

I don't think I can do that.


Rattus Americansis, Ret.

Ratas y Ratones post 134
I get it. Dont ever change.

No such thing
I figured it out. There has never been anything OFFICIAL called the Office of the President Elect. Until now. Aint that good change?
It was always called the transition team or something bland. Now we know exactly what to Google, cut and paste. Cuts down on research considerably.

oldsocialworker
"Date: Nov 29, 2008 - 6:52 PM EST Subject: Hal
I "spend my life" helping kids navigate our incredibly sick and destructive "child protective" and mental health system (everyone's bipolar these days). Its well worth it and i wouldn't change a thing."

Then fine and good on you...

"...As for being a wasp- you've never seen me! "Wasp" wouldn't come to mind! "

read again I didn't call you one...

Ratas y Ratones
Castellano is the name given to the ‘true’ Spanish language. Of course as the ‘true’ Spanish language really comes from the Romans who settled in Spain, who of course spoke both Latin and Italian, your Latin is more original than my Castellano.

I thought you might speak Castellano, or Español, based upon your own Nom de Plume.

The word Castellano is used instead of Español in a particular ‘lugar’ WAY Down South, which is much further south than our southern most state. This is where I currently reside. (This is one on the limitations of registering at U.S. sites.)

The temperature here is averaging about 30 degrees centigrade. Its summer, you know.

I shall drink a fine glass of Malbec in your honor.

Rocky
"Date: Nov 29, 2008 - 7:16 PM EST You are right, Louiselouise...By the way, Telephone Col. Donahue is going to a "christianing". Is that something like a Musliming, or a Jewishing? His writing skills are not typical of an Air Force Lt. Col - what a dope. "

Heck I just found out that it is a christening - I go to very few of them these days most folks I know forget about them. It was a nice family event though

Douglas

You are correct the streets of Bagdad are much safer than many Liberal communities like Chicago, LA, Detriot, Atlanta, and Camdem NJ.

One of the reasons for this is the inherit disrespect Liberals have for human life.

Hey Guys!
What color shirts ...
should the Obama / Gates civilian military force wear?

I'm thinking that brown is too obvious, and will tend to make people think that we are veering into a police state under Barack.

So how about a lovley lavender polyester.

Something sensible and easily cleaned is just the ticket for the new regime.

What do you say, Obamies? You have a stake in the new regime. What color do youse guys suggest?

Maybe a sparkling code pink facist tweed?

Or how about a stunning BLUE Mao-style Neru jacket?

It's your call! You'll all be wearing the uniform ...or else!

ranger29 ak robert
And I was just beginning to like you. I don't see any one taking exception with it - maybe you can contribute more than a slam.

US Patriot56
maybe the Republicans should wear pink?

ll Republicans are Socialists. They all believe in wealth redistribution.

Farm subsidies sky-rocketed under George Bush. That's wealth redistribution from blue states to red states. It's nigh time to get these teat suckers off the government sow.

Pork barrel spending redistributes wealth from people who have no political connections to people who do. Plain and simple. As we conservatives know pork-barrel spending increased under Republican rule from 2001-2006.


yo-yo obama
If Obama runs/governs from the center he is going to be there for 8 years unless he experiences "a dallas tragedy"?
If he runs from the center and mostly leaves his lunacy promises during the primaries
behind him, the GOP could run a resurrected
Apostle Peter and still lose!
elvis


puke!
After about a year of primaries,and all the crap that comes with it:debates,interviews,etc.
Iam getting sick of it all!
We should go to Englands system !what is it?
Heck I don't know but ours sucks! Too long,too much global warming caused by the HOT AIR...
caused by the speeches(sp)!
The only change we need is our diapers! I have read so much --ll----! We all need to get together and form a co. for fertilizer(me
included) hey it is catchy!
elvis

elvis
He we go again. You are just so brilliant. Well let's see now the Russians are now working on arms agreements with Chavez. The terrorists just went on a rampage in India. Guess what the world has a way of getting into the way of brilliant predictors like you.

USMC Lt.
Perhaps phony Conservatives, like yourself, have uttered, "America is in the fight of our lives...America is at a cross roads and the stakes are high, maybe even our lives."

Or, "The Democrats don't seem to even acknowledge that we are at war with a brutal throat slashing, burn people alive enemy that wants to destroy us. They'd pull our troops away from fighting in foreign countries with the inevitable result of the fight moving to our own homeland."

But, truth be told, the only way you are willing to pay for this engagement with the enemy is to hold onto your precious tax cut and raising the debt ceiling on the national credit card.

The War in Iraq, a social-engineering project, costs $12 billion a month. The cost per American is $40 a month for the past 5 1/2 years. If your family had actually been paying this bill from the get-go, your attitude would have been to 'cut and run' four years ago.

It's time to stop the 'drama queening' and if you think we should be in Iraq, and 'Operation Enduring Freedom' has national security value, then PAY for it, NOW!

USMC Lt.
Well, continue to pray for the maintenance of your precious tax cut then.

As we all know, the home front of any country faced with extinction, can only soldier on by passing precious tax cuts and then cherishing them.

Didn't Churchill pass tax cuts during the Battle of Britain?

Way Down South...

Location: HI
WAY Down South
Reply # 142
Date: Nov 29, 2008 - 10:12 PM EST Ratas y Ratones
Castellano is the name given to the ‘true’ Spanish language. Of course as the ‘true’ Spanish language really comes from the Romans who settled in Spain, who of course spoke both Latin and Italian, your Latin is more original than my Castellano.

I thought you might speak Castellano, or Español, based upon your own Nom de Plume.
~~~
The Rat replys...
WAY Down South , Your temperature is now worse (Worse. Heck. Hotter than I like~ therefore worse) than most of our Summer temeratures, here in Hoosier-Land.

Dang it, there you go again. I do not what a 'Fine glass of Malbec' entails.

You are challenging the old rat. I love It!

I thought I was knowledgeable on the most popular 'Adult' drinks, as I often indulge. Malbec, is a new one to me.

I suspect it is a very fine liqueur of exotic potency. If this is the case, I am primed, and up for it! Provided it does not consist of Wormwood, or Anise.

You do very much interest me. You have obviously educated yourself, and have some very fun thoughts.

I was fairly certain of the meaning and the history of Castellano. I have read much of history, that is never taught in schools or colleges. I know much of the history of the eras of invasions of Iberia (Spain), and Mediterranean Culture.
Later, with the help of the Franks, they were able to free themselves.

The Basques did even better.

These were some of the most violent wars, mankind has endured. Entire populations were slaughtered. Sadly, from friend and foe. Not good!

Hey. You wanna converse off line?

please email me at :

rattusamericansis@yahoo,com

Don't Let Your Guard Down
Hillary Clinton's goal in life is to push national health care at taxpayers expense which means you'll stand in long lines for hours at clinics and doctors will be controled by government, as well. It'll be similar to the HMO's who decided who will live and who will die, not the doctors. It also means we'll support more illegals crossing our borders who will be provided with drivers licenses if the liberals get their way which they want to do.
Today, our 401ks and social security is still at risk as well as unemployment. The food banks are struggling. The federal reserve continues to print trillions of dollars which isn't a good thing. We shouldn't forget Obama was tied to ACORN, whose group insisted the government give out fraudulent loans to millions of people who couldn't afford homes by pressuring the banks to compromise their banking principles that kept them functioning.
Hopefully, we don't forget that we don't really know who Obama really is. We know little about his background and he hasn't produced a valid birth certificate according to the laws of the land nor have the U.S. Justices upheld Article II of the U.S. Constitution which is their duty to the American people. At least that was the reason that we were told we pay their wages.
If amnesty is passed in my opinion, we'll pay more taxes to pay for more socialist programs and our schools and hospitals will be more bi-lingual. They'll be overcrowded and more of our jobs will be lost. It's only common sense that it's a great way to ruin a great country!
It appears that natural born American citizens now come last in America and their votes and opinions don't mean much to the liberals in office who are more concerned about illegals and social programs as they ignore the will of the people. If this "change" moves forward then it will "change" a great country forever.

r729...where in h##l have you been?
in the last few years. ever hear of Bill
Clinton? Duh!
Yes, there are plenty of negative things going on..but that is nothing new ! In case you have forgotten..Bill Clinton served 8 years in the
White House..you know that so-called middle of
the road guy!That total piece of puke !
It doesn't take brilliance to see where this country is headed ! Obama, a few years ago would have never been elected in America! He had so many "warts" but still got elected!
I don't see Obama doing much against the terrorist.Do you? But I don't see American voters (majority) being smart enough to realize
where he is going to take us! Barring a couple attacks here..and he rules from the center with
demos controlling the scene...go figure!
Reality isn't in my way...how about you?
I hope not(obama) but........
elvis

elvis
"It doesn't take brilliance to see where this country is headed!"

Amen bro!

It only took three terms of consecutive Republican presidents (Warren G. Harding;1920, Calvin Coolidge; 1924, Herbert Hoover;1928) to drive my beloved and proud country to its knees more than 70 years ago, resulting in the Great Depression.

When will you learn that the country needs to be run by competent people?

Anyhow, it only took one Republican president, in two terms, to drive this mighty of mighty countries to the brink of financial oblivion.
George Bush is the master of 'cut taxes and spend even more' that has successfully hollowed out our economy.

Let's remember, it's not about spreading the wealth, or creating wealth, but it is about the DESTRUCTION of wealth, Republican-style.

I hope you are proud of yourself and will NEVER vote Republican again.


Truth Versus Reality
As a college student, I received a B+ on what I thought was an excellent paper. My paper drew probable solutions to the social problems of America that an author drew out. The professor informed me that my solutions were too simple and the world was much more complex that those solutions that I laid out. I was a young man at the time, and my solutions may have been too simplistic. My solutions may be too black and white now, but if those don't work try other ones. My professor's point was that a simpleton like me, living in Nebraska is not privy to the social issues of other Americans. Fair enough I say, but my professor had no such qualms when it came to criticizing the problems in the military. I found this criticism contradictory. How can one criticize another for having simplistic solutions on social issues, then offer simplistic solutions on issues of a military nature? I don't mean to offer the professor the same critique as he gave me for being simplistic, but isn't it easier to offer solutions on the social issues of the day than it is issues of war and military? I doubt my professor was privy to the intelligence reports that the high officials that the military had before they acted. I'm thinking Obama faced the same hard lessons.

Rilaly from NE

I think your right. As Obama has learned more about world affairs, he's leaving his left wing "pie in the sky" outlook and taking a more realistic conservative approach.

Your professor is just another example of Liberal elitism.

Unless he has gone into the homes of thousands of our nations "under-privledged", he really doesn't know what is going on. What works and what makes the problem worse.

When you think about it, the Liberal solution is the simplistic solution. They think if they tax and spend money on a problem, it will go away. It never does. In fact it will usually make the problem worse.

The fact is when this country began its "war on poverty", there were 5 million americans living below the poverty line. Today we have more than 40 million americans living below the poverty line. That is an 8 fold increase. Yet we have not had an 8 fold increase in population.

So if you want more poverty. Support more Liberal programs and solutions.

Rilaly


Location: NE
Reply # 162
Date: Nov 30, 2008 - 2:24 AM EST Truth Versus Reality

As a college student, I received a B+ on what I thought was an excellent paper. My paper drew probable solutions to the social problems of America that an author drew out.

The professor informed me that my solutions were too simple and the world was much more complex that those solutions that I laid out. I was a young man at the time, and my solutions may have been too simplistic...

Fair enough I say, but my professor had no such qualms when it came to criticizing the problems in the military. I found this criticism contradictory. How can one criticize another for having simplistic solutions on social issues, then offer simplistic solutions on issues of a military nature? ...

...I doubt my professor was privy to the intelligence reports that the high officials that the military had before they acted. I'm thinking Obama faced the same hard lessons.

~~~

Rilaly

You ain't alone, Pal!

I saw the same thing! The only 'Bs' I ever got in college was from commies that hated our country!

I called one commie on his lies about Gun control! This was in the second week of the 'his-story' class. I knew I was screwed, at the time. But I had to do it.
Yes, I earned an 'A', but was given a 'B'. I went in to talk with the a.. and was given the story, "Well I can give you a re-test, but your grade will be what that is."

I took the 'B' and despised him from then on. As I, instantly realized my new grade would be 'C'.

YOU JUST HAVE TO LOVE THE COMMIES, OR YOU WILL SUFFER, WHEN YOU ARE UNDER THEIR THUMB!

The Old Rat, Ret.





Dear Elvis:
1. World War Two, not Franklin Roosevelt, got us out of the Great Depression. If anything, the New deal made things worse.
2. World-wide economic conditions, especially the aftermath of World War One, caused the Great Depression. Democrats are still parotting the same stupid mantra that Herbert Hoover caused the Depression. It was a WORLD Depression.
3. Have you forgotten Jimmy Carter?

Common College Practice
This is very common with Liberal College Professors. They tend to lower the grades of students who don't politically agree with them an increase the grades of students who do politically agree with them.

The result is many Liberal students suffer from the belief that they are smarter or brighter then what they really are. We often see this at the work place.

Human resource managers are beginning to become aware of this and discount higher grades if they know the person they are hiring is a Liberal. If fact if a Liberal tells you he/she had a High GPA in college, you can pretty much bet it only means they were easy to brainwash.

T.C. Donahue: RE Reply #101
It appeared to me you were questioning G.W. Bush's courage and my point was that you cannot question the courage of anyone who will strap their butt to the seat of an F-102.

You also apparently got the impression that I was saying I worked on ejection seats. That is not the case. I was an Avionics guy who spent many hours nearly every day sitting in ejection seats troubleshooting and repairing the things the "stick & switch actuators" broke on a daily basis.

I too have a great deal of respect for the Egress shop guys who maintained the ejection seats. Their work only got checked out once, and if it didn't work someone probably would die. And as you said, their record is outstanding - I personally do not know of a single incident of an attempted ejection that did not work because of maintenance error.

Pin Head Professors
I too found the same thing to be true of college professors - for the most part. The only B I got was from a Liberal Sociology Professor who didn't like a paper I wrote criticizing Karl Marx. I should have known better - I chose the subject matter.

Another professor I had for both Macro and Micro Economics was a flaming Libertarian and all he talked about in class was Libertarian philosophy. At least he was up front and told both classes on day 1 what the quizzes and tests would be on (which chapters in the text books & work books) and made himself available to answer questions a great deal.

Where Is It?
I still want to see a birth certificate that shows that Obama is a natural-born citizen. A birth certificate that can be authenticated by professional document examiners--not a xerox or doctored copy.

Shifting to the center
All American presidents in the Cold War era, no matter what their pre-existing ideologies, had to shift to the center eventually.

Every President, once in office, is forced to accommodate himself to the realities of the nation and the world, and what the White House can (or can't) do about them. Even Reagan.

Reagan came from the right-wing. But once in office, he did not blow off the United Nations. (Instead he sent Jeane Kirkpatrick there to make the most of it.) Arms control negotiations with the USSR continued, and eventually succeeded. And Reagan never did anything to stop abortion. But he kept making speeches to promote conservative principles, which kept conservatives happy.

Jimmy Carter campaigned on pledges to cut the defense budget by 15%. And in his first year in office, he said that America was "now free from that inordinate fear of Communism." But by 1979, after the Iran hostage taking and the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, he called for 5% real growth in the defense budget, and decided not to submit his new SALT II arms-control treaty to the Senate. Once again, reality bit him in the a**.

Obama is likely to emulate Reagan in that regard: Keep making speeches filled with left-wing rhetoric, red meat for his leftist supporters; while quietly making centrist decisions (such as his largely centrist Cabinet appointments for economics and foreign policy).


Don't put your guard down, yet!
Obama hasn't been sworn-in, yet! Things can change quickly, and radicaly, after he is sworn-in. I wouldn't put my guard down. A man who believes in national slaughter of the un-born is not on any page in any translation of God's Commandments in His Word the Holy Bible. Obama will be reprimanded by God Himself, but probably not before many innocents die at his hands. The massive slaughter of the un-born will bring God's retribution upon this nation. In His Word God states that He "has numbered every hair upon their (babies in utero) heads." "The blood of the innocents is mounting-up." Nobody messes with God, and gets away with it for very long!

USA's is more to the Right than you know
I saw a electoral map by the County's and it was all red..except for the border and coastal states. I do believe that the REAL Obama will come out. The honeymoon will be over soon. The Liberal Media isn't going to win this one. Check the internet..he's everywhere..and people are FINALLY finding out what he's all about! His radical, corrupt and criminal relationships with Ayers, Acorn, Jones, Stroger, Rezko, Rev Wright, Rev Meeks, Rev Pflegger, Odinga, Alinsky,Khalidi,Frank Davis Marshall, his foreign donations and secret donations, his birth certificate and yes even his grandmother(The Bank of Hawaii), his trips to Africa when he was a Senator..I could go on and on, it's all out there for everyone to read. I don't care what Political Party you belong to..your not going to like it. No wonder he's developed a nervous tic on his right side. The SECRET life of Obama will come out!

Don't get your hopes up.

There has never been a succesful Liberal President in the United States.

They just don't do well.

Rocky

Location: NC
Reply # 168
Date: Nov 30, 2008 - 9:09 AM EST Pin Head Professors
I too found the same thing to be true of college professors - for the most part. The only B I got was from a Liberal Sociology Professor who didn't like a paper I wrote criticizing Karl Marx. I should have known better - I chose the subject matter.

Another professor I had for both Macro and Micro Economics was a flaming Libertarian and all he talked about in class was Libertarian philosophy. At least he was up front and told both classes on day 1 what the quizzes and tests would be on (which chapters in the text books & work books) and made himself available to answer questions a great deal.
~~~

Rocky, Bud, You saw the same things I did!

I graduated from Purdue with a GPA of 5.92 on a scale of 6.00.

Yes I had 2 'Bs' out of all the other "As". Smart? Don't know. I prefer to think of it as DEDICATED! I wanted out of the crappy life I had and into a better life.


Oh, The two "Bs" they were both from commie lefts wing, sissie guys. I foolishly told them they were Jack Onagers.

Curiously this worked to my advantage. My future employer actually asked me if I
could relate to their stupid work force. I solved this problem instantly by saying,
My grades did not reflect anything other than motivation to succeed. They bought it, and I was IN.


The Olde Rat, Ret.

Ratas y Ratones
This has nothing to do with this column, but I really enjoyed your early post on the Adams column.

You're too d@mn funny, Rats.

LOL

Reply to the Rat.
My desire for an education was the same as yours. I graduated from college 20 years after I graduated H.S. I went back to school when I did because the field I had cross trained into in the Air Force was highly competitive for promotions and a senior NCO without at least a Bachelors degree was not going to go anywhere.

Part of the problem with higher education these days is that the young people in college don't really have any life experience, don't even know why they are in college and what their goals in life are. I think taking a few years off from school after high school to get some work and life experience would result in a student body that was more interested in and motivated to get a REAL edcation.

HOW WILL MSM BREAK BAD NEWS TO MASSES?
If something big happens soon (as in this week) on B.O.'s birth certificate litigation, and, when all is said and done, the result is that Comrade Obama cannot take the oath of office, how will the MSM media break the news to the adoring fans of "The One"?

Has anybody even thought of this scenario? The MSM, by not acknowledging that there is even litigation in progress, will have to tell them that all of a sudden, out of the clear blue sky, B.O. cannot be the Prez. Then, of course, they will charge anybody who is against B.O. as the instigators of a racist plot to prevent him from being the first African-American to reach the highest office in the land.
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