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Wednesday, November 12, 2008
Michael Medved :: Townhall.com Columnist
GOP Comeback? Been There, Done That
by Michael Medved
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Pouring over the numbers in the Presidential and Congressional elections of 2008, there’s an eerie parallel that deserves far more attention than it’s received.

In races for the House, the Senate and the Presidency, the final totals match almost precisely with the results of the last Democratic sweep in 1992.

That election gave the Democrats 57 Senate seats to 43 for the Republicans. So far, with three races yet to be decided in 2008, Democrats (and the two independents who caucus with the Democrats) control 57 seats and the Republicans control 40. Assuming that the GOP’s Norm Coleman hangs on to win his seat after a recount in Minnesota, that Saxby Chambliss wins his run-off election in Georgia, and that Ted Stevens (or a GOP replacement) secures the seat in Alaska, the Senate lineup will match exactly with its contours in 1992—57 to 43. Even if the Republicans lose one of the undecided seats, it’s possible that Independent Joe Lieberman will decide (or find himself forced) to caucus with them, still giving them the same 43 seats they won in ’92.

On the House side, the resemblance is similarly close to the line-up sixteen years ago. After the Clinton landslide (beating President George H. W. Bush and eccentric “Reform Party” contender H. Ross Perot), the Democrats nabbed 258 seats in the House and the GOP controlled 176. At this point in 2008, the Dems have secured 255 seats and the Republicans 174, with six seats unsettled. The most likely outcome of the races yet to be decided would be an exact replica of the House of Representatives that convened in 1993.

As to the Presidential race, sixteen years ago Bill Clinton cruised to victory with 370 electoral votes to 168 for President Bush (Ross Perot drew 18.9% of the popular vote but, like most third-party vanity candidates, earned no electoral votes). In 2008, assuming that John McCain carries the officially undecided state of Missouri (where he’s maintained a slight but steady lead) the final outcome will be an Obama victory by 365 to 173 electoral votes--- just a five vote difference from the 1992 race. In the popular vote, Obama prevailed by a margin of 6.5%, while Clinton beat Bush sixteen years ago by a strikingly similar margin of 5.5%.

The resemblance in election outcomes between the triumph of Clinton Democrats in 1992 and the resounding win by Obama Democrats in 2008 ought to fill disheartened Republicans with determination and hope.

Just two years after the electoral disaster of ’92, the GOP came roaring back to capture both houses of Congress in the “Contract with America”/Newt Gingrich revolution. And six years after that epic triumph, Republicans recaptured the White House under George W. Bush in the impossibly close election of 2000.

For several reasons, the election of 2008 left Republicans in an even better position for a quick comeback if they handle their opportunities intelligently.

Above all, the situation with the economy should work to the GOP’s advantage in the Congressional elections of 2010 and perhaps even in the Presidential race of 2012.

When Bill Clinton came to power in 1993, the recession that destroyed the first Bush presidency had already begun to recede and the economy had already begun its recovery, which ultimately morphed into the “Clinton Boom” and secured Slick Willy’s reelection. No one expects a similar economic turnaround for President-elect Obama in the three months before his inauguration and perhaps not even in the first two years of his presidency. If unemployment continues to rise, the deficit continues to explode, and personal income continues to stagnate or decline, the Obama reputation as a messianic miracle worker could collapse in a hurry. As with Clinton, the great expectations surrounding Obama’s election could quickly transform to a sense of betrayal and even disappointed rage.

Clinton survived the turmoil of his first term largely because he faced no credible rivals within his party. While he suffered sharply reduced approval ratings and rising public contempt in the first years of his presidency, the Democrats nonetheless rallied around him because they had no viable challenger to embrace.

Barack Obama enjoys no comparable luxury: Hillary Clinton remains a formidable force within the party and an entirely plausible Democratic challenger if Obama stumbles in his first term. In the same way that Lyndon Johnson conducted his entire presidency with a wary eye on Bobby Kennedy and those family loyalists who yearned for a Camelot restoration, Obama will need to use extreme caution in the management of the Senator from New York and all those operatives who yearn for another Clinton White House.

At the same time, Obama’s Congressional allies will bring him far more problems (and far fewer political assets) than did the House and Senate leaders who gave Bill Clinton their loyal support in the first two years after his election. Senate Majority Leader George Mitchell of Maine and House Speaker Tom Foley of Washington both came across as solid, serious, strikingly articulate public servants and presented themselves as moderate (or at least mainstream) Democrats.

Current House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, on the other hand, looks like an addled and terrified ditz in all her TV appearances and counts as the most unabashedly leftist leader in the long history of the House. Senate Majority leader Harry Reid (or “Dingy Harry” as Rush Limbaugh appropriately describes him) performs more feebly on television than any politician of modern times; his speech at the Democratic Convention in Denver was a veritable masterpiece of stomach-churning and whining excess, which I played several times for the delight of my radio audience. Reid also will face heightened scrutiny in the next few years for his numerous shady Las Vegas real estate transactions and his four sons who work as gold-plated lobbyists with notably unsavory connections. Meanwhile, the lobbyist son of Vice President Biden could provide additional embarrassment-- not to mention the likelihood of uncomfortable questions about the highly dubious financing and tax reporting of the Vice President’s own 7,000 square foot, 6.5 acre lakefront mansion.

In general, both Congressional caucuses contain fewer moderates and more true believers than they did in 1993—a situation that will almost certainly benefit the opposition party. The Democrats in both House and Senate feature more strident “progressives” than any Congress in 60 years (imagine Al Franken inserted into the “world’s most exclusive club”!) and these liberals will make it more difficult for President Obama to implement centrist policies or rein in the ideological excesses of his own party’s militants. Meanwhile, the surviving Republicans and their leaders embrace a far more coherent conservative outlook than ever before: for better or worse, Lincoln Chafee, Chuck Hagel, Gordon Smith and Mike DeWine are gone. In 1993, Republican House leader Bob Michel of Illinois endorsed a go-along-to-get-along philosophy that John Boehner and his hard-charging new whip, Eric Cantor, emphatically reject. Though the partisan alignment may look identical in House and Senate, the 111th Congress that convenes in January should prove even more challenging for Barack Obama than did the 103rd for Bill Clinton.

Then, finally, there’s the question of national party leadership. In 1992-93, the Republicans looked disheartened and shattered, with no credible potential candidates to challenge Bill Clinton for re-election. The first President Bush had retired to Texas and Kennebunkport, with few insiders thrilled by the presidential prospects of his much-derided Vice President, Dan Quayle. The National Review, surveying the dearth of GOP leadership, ran a famous cover story featuring a caricature of Rush Limbaugh as “The Leader of the Opposition.”

Well, Rush is still there, joined today by a dozen other conservative radio hosts with significant national impact and loyal followings. Fox News also helps in providing an answer to distortions by the alphabet networks. More importantly, the Republican Party features any number of bright young stars who could challenge Obama in 2012 or his successor in 2016. Governors Jindal of Louisiana, Pawlenty of Minnesota and, yes, Palin of Alaska, all could make serious races for national office, as could the formidably gifted former governors Huckabee of Arkansas and Romney of Massachusetts. Congressmen Pence of Indiana and Cantor of Virginia also qualify as rising political stars with nearly limitless futures, as do Senators Thune of South Dakota or Coleman of Minnesota (if he survives the ongoing recount against Al Franken).

This situation compares highly favorably to the Republican dilemma in challenging Bill Clinton in 1996, when the party in desperation embraced the desultory candidacy of Majority Leader Bob Dole after a primary campaign featuring flawed or listless figures such as Pat Buchanan, Lamar Alexander, Phil Gramm, Bob Dornan, Steve Forbes, Dick Lugar and Adamant Alan Keyes (who’s still available, no doubt, if anyone wants him). Dole lost, of course, by a margin of 8.53%--- a far more decisive thumping than John McCain just received.

In short, neither the lop-sided Democratic numbers in the House and Senate, nor the solid (but hardly overwhelming) victory by Barack Obama, should cause Republican partisans to despair. Bill Clinton – an even more experienced and savvy politician than Obama—boasted nearly identical strength, and a similarly fawning press, when he took office in 1993.

Nevertheless, Republicans came together behind conservative principles and took full advantage of the inevitable stumbles of the rookie president. With vision and resilience, they rebuilt the party surprisingly quickly, and won a string of Congressional victories that defied all the gloomy predictions. In terms of staging a dramatic and improbable comeback after a dispiriting defeat, we’ve been there, done that.

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Michael Medved's daily syndicated radio talk show reaches one of the largest national audiences every weekday between 3 and 6 PM, Eastern Time. Michael Medved is the author of eleven books, including the bestsellers What Really Happened to the Class of '65?, Hollywood vs. America, Right Turns and, most recently, The Ten Big Lies About America.
 
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There is but one America and Obama is it
There is but one America and Obama is its president (clever huh?)

Neither Party
Neither party has a lock on this country. If Senator Obama does not realize this and pushes too hard to the left, he will lose Congressional seats in the next election and probabaly be a one term president.

It is up to him. If he tries to undo everything President Bush did, he will energize the Republican base which the Democrats have claimed was dead time after time.

How bout your man McCain
Micheal" This great honorable man who cannot quash any rumors against his own running mate, given by his own staff. This is so weak on so many levels come on can you with your great analytical mind possibly concieve of at least one. Or do you too just gloss over offenses. I am absoulutely dissapointed in yours and McCains integrity on this. His for not soundly rebukeing these rumors by his own staff and you for not urging him to do so repeatedly.

Why assume that Ted Stevens of Alaska
will hold onto his senate seat? He's been in office a hundred years and is a convicted felon.

Oh. And I hope Al Franken wins his senate seat. Just the look alone on my conservative friend's faces would be priceless.

hehe

expectations
Medved says "No one expects a similar economic turnaround for President-elect Obama". Doesn't that make it EASIER for Obama to please voters?

The "messiah" thing is old and was stupid from the beginning. It tries to make Obama a failure if he is simply "great" and not perfect. But it betrays a real awe that his opponents have for him. Stop this nonsense.

The Only Politicians That Can Win...
...are the ones that have enacted solid, working (or workable) plans to reign-in spending and reduce the country's putrid $10T (T=trillion, for the recent public school and university graduates) debt.

It doesn't matter if you're a Democrat or Republican, neither party can survive if they continue the "fleecing of America".

I swear
I swear Americans want royalty and never got over the fact that Washington did not want to be king. Now we hearing about Camelot 2.0 or whatever number the MSM wants to give it. The peons need something to worship and are too lazy to go to church, so let some Pied Piper out of Kenya lead the way. None of this is going to work.

Michael
There are other things to consider.
Obama's ACORN thugs
United Socialist party operatives in colleges
Homo orgy groups
Our very uneducated young voters
United Socialist party mafia leaders
State run media(united socialist party)=ABC,CBS,NBC,MSNBC,PBS,CNN & ????
Illegal voters
Crooked judges
Etc,

The Republicans...
...will be hard pressed to win anything in the next 20 years. The Obama network of socialists, Marxists, racists, white-guilt-ridden rodents and other undesirables will inundate the electoral system. Obama will emancipate the 10million illegals in country and have ACORN register them as Obamacrats. It will be a long night ahead of us folks.

Time to regroup
and stop talking about Obamination. Ignore him and get your own house in order. When he brings out his storm troopers after his friend Osama blows up Chicago (the Sears Tower is my bet for the Big One the Other O is promising), even a few of the stoners who voted for the Little O will wake out of their stupor to realize life in the garden is not all roses especially when Mommy loses her job and her basement.

Regroup and get this train back on the track. See you at Galts Gulch for the next 2 years.

P.S. My blog has a tribute to the troops in honour of Veterans Day. I am not going to do politics until the fuss dies down.

Medved - Thankyou!
Thank you for not writing about how it is a great day for America because Obama is our new President as a lot of the articles seem to say. Of which I also refuse to read. It is not a great day for America that Obama is in the Whitehouse, it is a very, very sad day for America considering all that he stands for. If he puts his policies into place that he ran on this country is doomed. I wish everyone would stop looking at skin color and start looking at his policies.

Hillary in 2012? Not If Obama's Alive
While I agree with most of what Medved writes in his column, his implication that Hillary Clinton would challenge him for the Democratic nomination in 2012 if he stumbles is far-fetched.

That era of America's presidential politics - where rivals in a party still actively challenged incumbent presidents from their party for re-nomination for a second term if the incumbent wanted one - went out with the 19th century.

Realistically, the only way Hillary would have any chance for the 2012 Democratic nomination with ANY realistic chance to win the presidency that year is for Obama to die in office - which would probably have to happen fairly early in his term - and for Biden and whoever he would fill the then-vacant vice-presidency with to decide not to seek the nomination in 2012.

As long as Obama is still alive come the 2012 primary season and wants a second term, Hillary is right back where she was this year: trying to take away the nomination from Obama without kissing off the black votes she would need to win the White House. Look what happened to her THIS year without the black vote; blacks would abandon her en masse if she tried to deny Obama a second term if he wanted it. And if by 2012 Obama has done such a disastrous job even in the judgment of Democrats that Obama either decides it's best not to seek a second term or the non-black Democrats abandon him for Hillary, it's highly unlikely by then that the nation as a whole would seek to replace ONE Democrat with another; all but certainly, they'd be looking for a new direction altogether, with a Republican. In which case, the 2012 Democratic Party candidate will likely be little more than a sacrificial lamb. Would Hillary REALLY want to run in such an environment? I can't see that.

People's Weekly World Newspaper
Tim Wheeler helped organize local canvassing and visibility events for Barack Obama, and he chronicled his experiences on the campaign trail in a blog that appeared on the official Barack Obama campaign website.
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“It’s a new day!” exclaimed Joelle Fishman, chair of the Communist Party USA’s Political Action Commission. “The profound impact of Barack Obama’s election is also reflected in the House and Senate returns.

“This election showed a strong shift in the country against the Bush administration’s corporate rightwing agenda.”

Obama and the Congress “have won a strong mandate to take our country in a new direction; to end the war in Iraq, to utilize the resources of the country for a massive program to rebuild our nation’s infrastructure creating millions of ‘green’ jobs,” Fishman said. “We now have the possibility to create a universal health care program and push through the Employee Free Choice Act to restore workers’ right to join a union. We need comprehensive immigration reform, full funding of public education and countless other human needs.”

Author: Tim Wheeler
People's Weekly World Newspaper, 11/06/08 15:46
Communist Party USA

Communists of Petersburg Obama Victory

Communists Of Petersburg Russia on the election of Barack Obama.
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"Even though Obama was supported by many left-wing forces in the U.S., including - at our request - The Communist Party of America,

Barack is clearly being controlled by the Pentagon and Wall Street. Comrade Zyuganov has correctly observed with dismay that Obama is surrounded by slithering certified Russophobes - Brzezinski and the maniacal Albright.

Therefore, Russia cannot lower its guard - we must be prepared for the continuation of the Cold War.

But there still is a chance that Barack Obama chooses a realistic policy and brings new people into his team.

The Communists and the Socialist Party USA, as well as Negro organizations, must demand that Obama appoint their representatives to key management positions!

Let's also hope that Obama is intelligent enough to reach out to Venezuela, Cuba, Syria, Korea, Zimbabwe, and Palestine."

The Secretary of the Volkhov District Committee of the Communist Party Katerina Petrova.

http://www.kplo.ru/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&i d=601&Itemid=23

LD35
What about the millions of dimocrat voters that will be created when the Obortion makes all the illegals citizens.
Add that to the brownshirt army he wants to create.
Add acorn and the rest of your list.
We are Venezuela and it has already happened.

Holy Cow, Batman!
This just can't be! Why, I remember someone telling us that an Obama victory would be the end of Conservatives. I remember someone telling us that Republicans lost because they were tooooo Conservative. Who was that masked fool?

http://michaelmedved.townhall.com/blog/g/e014ec7f-fcff-409b -a55a-0e2f0be2cdd8

http://michaelmedved.townhall.com/blog/g/2f3e3917-c375-47cc -a177-de334138b91e

http://michaelmedved.townhall.com/blog/g/24966e38-d193-41bf -838e-12ffb08e42e4


Now you're on board with what many of us have been telling you for months now??? Go on back home to the Democrats, Medved. They love wafflers like you.

Too bad Meddie Vedder here didn't have
this mindset before the election. He did everything he could to convince conservatives that "almost a democrat" McCain was the answer. Funny how Medved changes his tune now that McCain lost.

Had McCain won he would have to write about how McCain (and GOP legislators)would now have to hand out milkshakes to DEM legislators. Thats what mavericks do after all. He would still be shilling for McCain as he moved the GOP further left. Pathetic really.

Thankfully, McCain lost though, so now the remaining conservatives left to legislate can do so without holding their tongues to appease their president. IOW they can finally start doing the job they were elected to do.

Redhead
EXACTLY!

Advice from a liberal
You folks have a branding problem:

The GOP brand, right now, is associated with a failed economic philosophy that favors the rich ownership class at the expense of the working class.

(As proof of this, drug prices for seniors on the medicare prescription drug plan are expected to go up 43% next year. That's because the GOP didn't want the government to have the ability to negotiate prices with the drug companies. Who does that benefit? Retirees? No. The government? No. It benefits the wealthy shareholders of the drug companies.)

It's also associated with an arrogant, belligerent and incompetent foreign policy. (It's not just Bush. You all supported his policies, and you still claim that they're working, and you claim that the fact that the rest of the world hates it, means we're on the right track.)

The GOP is also directly associated with a fossil fuels based energy policy, which most people realize is unsustainable.

The GOP is also associated with incompetent governance. People are starting to intuitively realize that people who hate government should never be allowed to run government.

Finally, it is associated with biblical literalism, which is seen as naive and foolish by most Americans.

Until you folks find a way to fix these problems, no amount of numerology and wishful thinking is going to turn things around for you.

Phylo out.

This isn't ...
that difficult. Keep repeating to yourself ...
There are Americans and there are citizens of the United States .. which am I?
If you answer that you are a citizen of the United States, then you will be able to number yourself amongst every person who crosses the border illegally. Who is in favor of that activity and why?
Remember the word illegal for border jumpers has morphed into undocumented.
Soon to allow the populace of the prisons to vote we won't be permitted to call them criminal.. they will be people in need of social conditioning. Part of their social conditioning will be familiarizing them with excercizing their civil right to participate in democratic elections.
This is all too funny ... I am not bright enough to put these thoughts together, but I am interested enough to take the time to try to learn things whenever I can by reading. This means missing a lot of 'really great TV'.
Sorry folks, we've earned whats coming.

wishful thinking
One has to admire Medved's attempt to turn lemon into lemonade. There doesn't seem to be much reason behind it. The idea that the democrats being more cohesive will give Obama problems in dealing with Congress seems unlikely.

The "get along" republicans of 1992 gave Clinton no votes for his budget in 1993. It passed narrowly and set the stage for the economic boom of the '90s. Obama should have an easier time getting his budget through Congress even without republican votes since, as Medved notes, the democrats are more ideologically unified than in '92. And Obama was smart enough to take a chief of staff from Congress rather than from Arkansas (or for him Chicago).

So Medved is stuck hoping that the fact that Limbaugh gives democratic leaders silly names will be significant. That is pretty delusional.

What this column misses completely is that the country has shifted to the left between 1992 and 2008. So things that Clinton did that seemed outrageously leftist like gays in the military and Hilary Care are now fairly moderate and so easier to get passed.

retired geek
You are an hysteric.

Madeline Albright is maniacal? Do you know what the word maniacal means? She is one of the most level headed people to ever serve in government. Just ask her good friend Condoleeza Rice.

You are living in a cocoon of far-right, kook fringe spin.

I'm sure that you believe that you're the only one who can see the truth about Obama. Right?

Get some help.

Phylo out.



Iraq troop withdrawl
A big thing the Amercian sheeple will get hoodwinked on is troop withdrawl from Iraq.

President Bush is in the final stages of a status of forces agreement with Iraq that would have US forces "American forces will withdraw from Iraqi cities by June 2009 and from the country by the end of 2011"

This gets very little mention in the MSN but once President Elect Obama swears in I promise you it will be big news and presented as if he is responsible for it.

I agree with Mr Medved and people like georgetwin's townhall blog that a true conservative on fiscal policy and strong on National Defense can bring the country back for us, but we must watch MEDIA distortions.

The Media will in every way continue to mislead the American Sheeple. They will continue to push the liberal agenda and it will take a lot of effort (and money) to educate the sheeple on the basic truths of conservatism.

tinsldr2@yahoo.com

on the other hand the fish were still biting and uneffected by politics see my report at http://forum.gon.com/showthread.php?t=259779 :)

Phylo Se Fiser
If only we the little people would open our eyes
we might develop our potential to be as sophisticated as you.
Especially that paragraph about ...

'The GOP is also associated with incompetent governance. People are starting to intuitively realize that people who hate government should never be allowed to run government.'

We all will some day come to our senses and have overwhelming love in our hearts for Big Brother.

Do you elevate your head and look down your nose when you speak to others as does the Lord Obama?


Phylo Se Fiser cannot read!

Phylo Se Fiser wrote: "...Madeline Albright is maniacal?..."

My entire post except "Communists Of Petersburg Russia on the election of Barack Obama."

The rest of the post was a direct quote from a Russian Communist website - click the link and you will see.

That was NOT my opinion but the opinion of Russian Communists.

As usual you type your 'Brain Farts' without understanding or reading the posts.

LD35
I suspect it says more about you than anything else that you want people to join you in considering homo orgy groups. That is one topic I am happy enough not considering. I don't much care if sugh things go on, but they can go on without my thinking about them.

retired geek
Sorry, I missed the quotes.

But I take it your point is that Obama is supported by Communists, which you see as an ominous sign, right?

So my point that you are an hysteric still stands. Your point makes as much sense as me saying that skinheads supported John McCain, therefore John McCain will support skinhead policies.



No doomed nation here Darlene
" If he puts his policies into place that he ran on this country is doomed."

Check again on what some key things Obama ran on

Tax cuts
fiscal responseibility
health care reform, by implementing a volunteer health insurance equal to what elected officials get. Something I think I recall some republicans talking about some years ago
Energy Independence.


All issues McCain ran on, the devil is in the details however and thats exactly where you would have to look to find the differences in their policies, the very fine print details.

No one pays that much attention to the finer details during an election. You can bet however that as the more radical ideas come up for legislative approval there will be resistence. Its up to Republicans to highlight and strategize on combating those ideas.


Phylo is right
that the GOP is associated with incompetent governance. That's because the media harp on the shortcomings of the Republicans and make a 3-year-long story out of "the failure of Bush after Katrina" when, of course, it was a failure of every level of Democrat rule in La.

But Michael is sorely mistaken to think that Reid and his sons will ever be investigated; that Biden's son will be looked at; that Joe's property deal ... or even Barack's sweetheart loan from Northern Trust ... will get a glance.

Why do you suppose the blatant misdeeds of the Democrats at Fanny and Freddie haven't already been the subject of hearings? Didn't they do serious enough damage to warrant censure?

Dems are in control, and THEY DON'T CARE about other Dems who lie, cheat and steal. And their MSM buddies will keep the shields up for them.

Cliff
Watch out for extremes in your thinking. There is a middle ground between hating government and wanting government to run everything.

That middle ground is where you folks will find the votes you need to win a national election.

I have a lot of liberal friends, but I don't know anyone who thinks government should run everything. But I know there are a lot of you folks on the extreme right who really do hate government. Until you folks ditch that attitude, you're on the political fringe. You need to wake up and realize that there are some things that the government does better than the private sector; national security, infrastructure, healthcare, and education for example. These things all work better and more efficiently as collective enterprises than as private enterprises. For example: we spend far more per capita on healthcare than France does, and we have inferior healthcare. What sense does that make?

Tom
That's right Tom, just keep living in denial. It's not that the Republicans took us from a strong economy and three trillion dollars in debt in 2001 to an economy on the brink of collapse and ten trillion dollars in debt in 2008. No No No. It's the liberal media controlling people's minds that is the cause of the misperception that Republicans have been a total failure at governing. Just keep telling yourselves that you're the victims. That will solve all of your problems. That's the ticket to victory.

Phylo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs&feature=related

Warning to Rpublican Spokesmen

It may have passed the notice of people who represent the conservative side in the media, but the latest lie from the activists in the MSM is that Sarah Palin lost the campaign for McCain.

This is an enormous lie. There are millions and millions of us who were not going to vote until Sarah Palin showed up and "energized the base."

Do NOT allow this lie to go by without a challange, because if you do, the Lefties will succeed in making Palin irrelevant, which is their hope.

They fear her charisma, and want to crush her in the bud before she becomes a national figure. These weasels will continue to destroy candidate after candidate in this nasty underhanded manner until we have no leaders worth following.

Most "liberal" newspapers are dying
The strangle hold that the liberal press has on us is about to pass. They are running out of money. What we need is for a wealthy conservative to buy out one or more of these dying newspapers and begin to loosen the strangle hold that the liberal press have on us. Isn't there at least one or maybe a consortium of wealthy conservatives that will come to the fore? I doubt it. We're to happy sittin on our @$$, blaming the liberals and not do anything about it. We're too happy being the opposition, but we're not willing to lead.

It's nice to see
Medved use is intellect for something other than bashing conservatives and Third Party supporters.

Plumber
Fannie and Freddie have very little to do with the current problems. The much bigger problems are the Credit Default Swaps, and the fact that lenders were no longer accountable for the loans they made. Unscrupulous mortgage brokers encouraged people to lie on their loan applications and then they sold the loans in bundles called mortgage backed securities. So the problem isn't that the government "forced" banks to make bad loans. There were a lot of unscrupulous mortgage brokers writing bad loans for the profit. There was also the speculation bubble that burst and collapsed on all of those house-flippers out there.

You're looking at a tiny part of the problem and you're saying that it is the whole problem. That kind of over-simplified thinking is part of the reason you Republicans have found yourselves out of power.


western bondbeam
changed tone by Medved, I think not, go look at his blog titled "was the maverick to moderate to win" Not only did this great analytical mind determine he was not but that Republicans should be gearing up to go further centrist in the future.

Be Patient
When I was a boy, we had a cat that liked to lay on the porch in the shade. One day she was laying there and a dog that was passing by saw her. He walked around the porch looking at her and growling, she laid there and ignored him. HOWEVER, as soon as he stepped onto the porch, she jumped onto his face with CLAWS EXTENDED and slashed his nose to ribbons!

The Hard Left WILL demand payback for all the money & votes they delivered. Piglosi and Fairy Reid WILL grab their ankles and try to deliver. WHEN THEY OVERSTEP, cut them to ribbons!

Moutain Rose did you
see the Matt Lauer(sp) interview. I was impressed.

Ive got to tell you until the monday before the election I had not paid much attention to her and did not get what was so great about her. I watched the vp debate and saw a couple clips of other interviews nothing clicked.

Then the ethics board report from the Alaskan state Government came out. Over 150 pages long and included her emails as evidence. The report debunked the legislature report and the emails showed the writtings of a smart ethical and well spoken person. She started clicking with me.

Then the campaign ended and wow I didnt see it before but she has that ability to talk right around reporters and go straight to the people in her communications. I could swear Matt was getting won over as he was doing the interview and she was cooking his dinner, and what a dinner!

GINGRICH & PALIN
As a conservative, I believe Newt Gingrich is a great spokesman for conservative values with one exception and that is his stand on "Man-Made-Global Warming" (MMGW).

The pro MMGW commercial he made a year or two back with Namcy Pelosi still sticks in the craw of most conservatives.

Since he made that commercial, 31,000 reputable scientists have gone on record claiming MMGW is a hoax.

Also, more and more new data are indicating MMGW is a hoax.

MMGW is considered a fact by the democrats but as more data accumulates negating it, it can become a wedge issue in 3 or 4 years.

Gingrich should review the evidence on MMGW and hopefully change his position.

Gingrich with his debating skills and scholarly demeanor should be leading the charge against the democrats' MMGW thesis.

Sarah Palin with her extensive experience in the Energy field, I'm sure will be coming out 4 square against MMGW.

Bowing to the MMGW theory and blaming carbon dioxide is costing this country billions to lessen carbon dioxide emissions

Gingrich and Palin would be a great team to debate & debunk the democrats and their MMGW thesis.

Of course the democrats refuse to debate but the facts will do them in. It would give new life to the conservative cause.

Especially after the democrats fail to come up with an commercially viable substitute for oil and coal that they want to spend billions on.

The kiss of death for the democrats will be when gasoline at the pump goes over $4 per gallon again.

If that occurs before 2010, it could mean big Republican gains in the House.


Embrace the Goldwater Republicans
Until the Republicans start taking a more libertarian point of view to effectively counter the populist point of view of the democrats, they will not re-emerge.

Ken92 distortions repeated and sheeple
Ken92 proves my point exactly about distortions and the American Sheeple. He screeds that "They went in there and did exactly what they wanted to do. Cut taxes for the rich... "

My sister a politically uneducated leftist said much the same thing to me. When I pointed out that Pres Bush cut taxes for EVERYONE including her, she reponded that the rich use "loopholes to not pay taxes".

When I countered with the fact and cited sources that the Richest 10% percent pay over 60% of taxes and the bottom 50% of wage earners pay only about 3% of taxes she countered lamely that they were just the ones that weren't smart enough to get out of paying taxes.

Of course she has such huge persoanl debt that she can't answer her home phone (despite being singal and earning over 80K a year)and believes the Gov should take care of her (even though she is 48 and has no retirement savings, pension plans or other investments and gives little to charities).

I only partly fault people like Ken92 for being uneducated. He just believes the lies he has been told over and over again instead of researching the facts independantly. If I was him I wouldnt take my word for it but go to source documents and learn more. But typically people like him won't do that.

That is why the Animal farm analogy applies to far to many Americans.

A source for the comparison of Tax Rates under Bush and Clinton is http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=6621 and clearly shows that as a percentage of Income the poorest people got the most help under Bush. But the left will just continue to bleat their distortions.


Mtn Rose #35
Any reinvention of the Republican party will have to resolve the culture issues that conservatives are losing. Does anybody remember the old TH debates from 2006, 07, -08 on evolution or climate change, gay marriage, right to die? Mt. Rose and many others who post here regularly are the poster children for a shrinking army of conservatives who are rapidly being left behind by the twenty-first century and the younger people who are growing up and ready to vote.

I read this morning that 75 percent of evangelicals who voted still believe that Obama is a muslim; many believe that he is an "anti-christ" because they read it in one of those series of rapture novels. There is still a huge number of paleo-conservatives who believe evolution is just a crackpot theory and that Divine design should be taught in the schools, even though scientists have now identified the protein strands which explain the "blind watchmaker" theory. It is becoming more and more difficult for conservatives like Rose to find credible science to support their adamant belief that climate change is just a liberal conspiracy, or that the world was created 6,000 years ago. The celebration of religious and social fiction is over, the party has ended.


rest of it
The Palin problem has nothing to do with the MSM, even though conservatives consistently and without exception blame every institution and every human being except themselves for their demise. Palin's enemies are not Democrats, the press, or liberals - Palin's problem will be Republicans who want to move the party to a higher level and into the new, post-Iraq, Post-Bush, Post recession century. Palin is the poster girl for people like Rose because she (Sarah) is proud of her limited ideas, retro views and fundamentalist beliefs and in fact campaigned on them. There is a reason why Palin antagonizes independents and women and why she is adored by the anti-science, anti-intellectual, anti- education crowd. She is like the country-western singer who auditions for a Mozart Opera. Right music, wrong audience.

But the battle will be within the Rep party, not the rest of the country. If I truly were un-American, as Palin suggests, I would campaign for Palin and her message, because that is the direction that leads nowhere for Republicans.


Comeback won't be hard at all
...for we Republicans. Have a look at this county by county map that went for McCain:

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/red_election_map/2008/11 /11/150126.html?s=al&promo_code=7105-1

A Conservative candidate (a Gov., not someone from the Senatorial club), not afraid to point fingers at the guilty Congessional Dems that caused the financial meltdown in September, would have won this thing.

As for economic history and
Republican presidents of the 20th century, history is good for some insights into the future but not all.

The history of military shields and swords is interesting, but not particularly useful now that we don't live in that world any more.

Gov. Palin
Has got the goods - she connects with people for sure. She drew huge crowds.

But if she really wants a shot, she has got to get out on what Reagan called the "mashed potato circuit" and speak to diverse groups all over this country. With particular attention to Reagan blue-collar Dems and Dixiecrats.

I don't know that she has the time or the desire to do this.

Tnsdlr
That's really instructive, that you have used the example of your sister to explain the entire population of America.

That must explain why you are so "politically educated".

Phylo
you're funny...and a liar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivmL-lXNy64

This is 2008 not 1992
The parallels Mr. Medved futilly tries to make between GOP defeats in 1992 and 2008 simply are errant because they simply dont fit in context with current events. What he really is discribing is wishful thinking based off of the same negative thinking about Prez-elect Obama and the expanded Democratic led U.S. Congress that led to their trouncing last week.

Assumming that Prez Obama and the Dem led congress will fail at governance and basing a GOP comeback off it, is foolhardy at best.

Repubs/Cons would be wise to start coming up with solutions to the problems that the u.s. faces currently and in the near future rather than offering nothing more than formenting partisan negativism, divisiveness and character assasination about the opposition. It's the prime reason they are in the predicament the currently find themselves in.

Phylo
"You need to wake up and realize that there are some things that the government does better than the private sector; national security, infrastructure, healthcare, and education for example."

Talk about dreaming. I'll give you national security and infrastructure, because it just isn't feasible to have individuals responsible for it. But are you serious that government run education and healthcare are superior to private sector?

Would you like to compare student proficiency of private and home schooled students compared to the public schools?

As for healthcare, you're definately dreaming. I lived in Germany and my brothers have lived in Japan, South Korea, and Scotland. I also have a nephew who lives in Canada. Government run healthcare is a JOKE. I guess if you really enjoy the DMV, and want to turn your doctor visit into such an experience, it's a great thing.

BTW, one of the ways these other countries reduce costs is by simply denying many medical procedures such as organ transplants and long-term ICU care.

Todd
'But if she really wants a shot, (SHE HAS TO SPEAK TO) Reagan blue-collar Dems and Dixiecrats.

Thanks for proving my earlier point. Perhaps she can validate those passions of belief that state that climate change and gloval warming is a myth invented by Al Gore so he can take over the country; that the earthy sprang from God's forehead 6,000 years ago, that Divine design has the same scientific creds and evolution, and that Obama is a secret Muslim Marxist who plans to eat your young, and that it's the responsibility of every good conservative to direct peoples most private lives" How they procreate, how they die, whom they marry, where they travel, and how they medicate themselves.

Keep on keepin on, Todd.


Time to rattle some cages
Mr. Medved presents the typical picture from the perspective of percentages, personalities and probabilities but none of it means anything if the Republican Party itself is split down the middle.

Unlike the earlier years sited by Mr. Medved, that which claims to be the Republican Party is clearly a party in conflict between conservatives and those who want to reside in the safety of the noncommittal middle.

If Republicans really want to make a "comeback" and it looks more and more that they prefer to stay a whiney minority opposition, they will need a candidate that is not only a true conservative but one that is also a true leader and not a politician who gives good pander.

If he or she is out there, today would be a good day to start making their case.

Left Angle
"The parallels Mr. Medved futilly tries to make between GOP defeats in 1992 and 2008 simply are errant because they simply dont fit in context with current events. What he really is discribing is wishful thinking based off of the same negative thinking about Prez-elect Obama and the expanded Democratic led U.S. Congress that led to their trouncing last week."

That is exactly the point I was trying to make. This is not 1992, and unless conservatives wake up and stop clinging to the past, they are goners.

But the Latino vote likely changes
those flucuations back and forth between the two parties.

And Michael, you, Bush, McCain, the Wall Street Journal, a FAMOUS branch of Christianity, and the US Chamber of Commerce helped INSURE that the democrats will dominate US politics in the forseeable future.

It was the neoconservatives and those republicans in business who got greedy with the low skill, low wage immigrants and let them flood into the country(never considering the long term impact).

The democrats laughed at how stupid republicans were to let their greed get the best of them, because they knew all along that a higher percentage of low skill, low wage immigrants was most likely a democrat voter.

Don't you think you should skip the politics and stick to entertainment?

You are making life miserable for the rest of us.

It's not for nothing
That Medved serves on the Board of the Discovery Institute, which trades in phony science and religion to try to give creationism some respect, even though we now have answered, with credible science, the questions about evolution that remained open.

So last century.

doug
This from Medved's recent mythbusters column.

"Despite the fact that leading polls continue to indicate a close Presidential election, and point to the very real chance of an upset victory for the McCain-Palin ticket, too many conservatives have begun to embrace a bizarre form of defeatism. According to this destructive logic, a Republican defeat in 2008 counts as not only inevitable, but necessary; some disgruntled voices on the right argue that a decisive win for Barack Obama might actually help the conservative cause in the long run"

He seems to be now embracing (hoping) for that which he called "bizarre" just a couple of weeks ago.

I'll check out the "too moderate to win" blog but obviously moving the GOP left is what RINO's and Medved want.

Medved malaise
So Medved goes out of his way to sabatoge the one person who had a chance against Obama, Romney, and is now trying to put a silver lining on the inevitable defeat of his McMain Man.

Remember when Medved was telling us that if we elected Romney, we would lose the Hispanic vote, but that if McCain got the nomination the Hispanics would flock to us since he's been their long-time champion? Ya, how'd that work out?

Don't get me wrong, I don't think Romney was a perfect candidate or that it wouldn't have been a hard fight, but at least it would have been a fight. Mr. McCongeniality kept talking about fighting for us, but he never took that attitude to the debates. He never confronted the media bias head on. He was too busy trying to be everybody's friend.

On top of all that, he was abysmal on any type of economic solutions. At least Romney would have been able to talk sensibly about what was happening and articulate why Obama's plan is going to cripple our economy. How do we argue that Obama is going to hurt us, when McCain is also in favor of crippling environmental regulations, the bailout, and other boondogles? We will never win by out-socialisming the Dems!

Thank you Mr. Medved.

Phylo Se Fiser et al

There is a huge difference.

Barack Obama is NOT only supported by Communists all over the world - Obama has a long and extensive background in Marxism.

Barack Obama hired two members of Communist Party USA to blog on his official website.

Tim Wheeler the editor of 'People's Weekly World Newspaper' official publication of Communist Party USA and Wheeler helped set up events for Obama.

Alan Malki also was hired to blog on the Barack Obama official website who is a member of Communist Party USA.



http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/blog/alanmaki

Matthew
"BTW, one of the ways these other countries reduce costs is by simply denying many medical procedures such as organ transplants and long-term ICU care."

That's happening all over. Oregon has had a medical insurance/healthcare plan in place since the '80s which rules out the very things you mention.

And how many private hospitals do you know of that will do a lung transplant as a favor?

LA
"It's the prime reason they are in the predicament the currently find themselves in."

Wrong. The prime reason the GOP lost is by compromising it's principles for the sake of comity, ie "compassionate conservatism". Big spending, big government, and amnesty lost the base. Without a base, the whole structure falls.

Considering how weak the GOP candidate was and the fact that BO lied about taking public financing, I'm shocked that your messiah didn't get closer to 60% of the popular vote.

Obama website Communists support

"This group is for self-proclaimed Marxists/Communists/Socialists for the election of Barack Obama to the Presidency.

By no means is he a true Marxist, but under Karl Marx's writings we are to support the party with the best interests of the mobilization of the proletariat.

Though the Democratic Socialists of America or the Communist Patty of America may have more Socialististic values, it is pointless to vote for these candidates due to the fact that there is virutally no chance they will be elected on a National level.

The members of this group are not Leninists, Stalinists, etc. and do not support or condone the actions of North Korea, China, Cuba or any other self-proclaimed "Marxist States." They do not in anyway represent the Marxist philosophy nor do they represent
Socialism/ Communism.

We support Barack Obama because he knows what is best for the people!"

http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/group/MarxistsSoci alistsCommunistsforObama

md : from what I'm reading in here
right wing conservatives actually believe that they way back for the GOP is to go "further to
the right"? this is totally unbelievable. they actually believe they can win the POTUS and retake control of the U.S. Congress in 2012 with a coalition of conservatives only?

this stuff is hillarious...lmao

MD in Flakesota
You last post was typical lib boilerplate decribing weak lib ideas covered in the blanket of generalities discounting Conservative values for you own purposes: pulling the wool over the eyes of base all too willing to hear what they want to hear in return for money and the pandering ideals you Des hold near and dear. Which is what keeps you in usiness.

Your ideas, MD in Minneflakeysota, are nonexistent, just like Obama's are those delivered by an empty suit.

You are going to be in the 4 and out club - just like you were with Carter and LBJ. Two of the biggest fools to ever hit the bigtime.

Correct McCain lost for the same reason
Dole lost by running a me too campaign.

To win in 2010 the republicans need to do what was done in 1992 give the public a real choice in ideas.

Show that conservatives have real solutions to the problems the country faces that up hold the constitution and are conservative in nature.

McCain had the perfect chance to do so this last election with the bailout plan. There were several good conservative ideas that he could have supported and if he had done so won the election. But instead he followed his liberal gut feeling and when with the big liberal bailout plan. Interesting that Medved also supported that big government big liberal plan that only helped Washingiton insiders and big democratic party members.

Republicans win in 2012
Check out this county by county map that went McCain:

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/red_election_map/2008/11 /11/150126.html?s=al&promo_code=7105-1

Dems are history after four years of Obama. All the blue collar Dems and Dixiecrats will go back to Republicans

Todd
And now if they take the vote away from people and give it to acres of land, the Republicans will win in a landslide (pun unintended).

On the other hand, if they continue to hold elections by having people vote, the fact that the blue counties have more people in them may still tip elections to the democrats.

Plumber: if thatts what you think
then ok, because i totally disagree with you.
Sen. McCain-Gov Palin spent 95% of their wretched campaign bashing Sen Obama rather than telling the american public what their ideas were for solving the nations problems and they ended up getting crushed because of it.

The more they bashed Sen. Obama the more their negatives went up. The american publics was and is looking for solutions to the problems confronting the country not character assasination, negative skeptism, and doubt, which is all McCain-Palin/GOP had to offer

The incompetence of the GOP in governance over the last 8 years in which the Repubs Bush-Cheney admin. and the GOP led Congress controlled the entire govt for 6 of those years, with bush holding the veto pin over the dems, the last 2 was also very instrumental. In other words, You had your chance and you totally BLEW IT.

PUNCH DRUNK GOP TRIES FOR A COMEBACK

.....If Michael Steele take the reins of the RNC and RINOS are expelled in the Primaries then maybe the GOP can rise again ...

.....OBAMBA wants to "change" the Constitution and radicalize the Courts ...we can limit some of the damage he will do to the Country to two years if we can get out the Conservative vote for the mid-term elections in 2010 ...we need to stack the Congress and Senate with enough "true" Conservatives (No more McCain RINOS) to block Obambas radical agenda and the Socialization of America ...

.....Peter Hitchens waved good-by to America and wrote that we had begun the long slow decent into the Third World ...well I'm not going without a fight ...

.....Conservatives who are looking for a place to congregate and mobilize a comeback of Conservative values should check out Michael Reagans new web site http://www.reaganaction.com ...

.....The time to take a stand against the Socialist tide is now ...the first battle will be in 2010 .....COLOSSUS

Matthew
Compare the quality of healthcare in the US with that of France. You'll see that they get much better healthcare for much less cost than we do. And the way that private health insurers make money is by denying coverage. They spend a lot of money claiming that medical issues are the result of pre-existing conditions and therefore they don;t have to cover them.

Don't be a knee-jerk capitalist ideologue. Do some research and think for your self. Our healthcare system is one of the least effective in the Western world, and we are paying twice as much, per-capita as the countries that have superior health care.

As far as education goes, are you seriously suggesting that all education be private? Do you realize how many kids would get no education at all? Do you seriously think that that would be good for the country?

Think a second time.

Yep thats right left angle
"right wing conservatives actually believe that the way back for the GOP is to go "further to
the right"?

Further to the right. No compromise.

If republicans want to win they better start doing it now. As I said before
Obama and McCain ran on the same issues
Tax cuts
helth reform
energy independence with an enviromental twist.

The devil being the details and the details need better splaining lucy.

The other thing we do is be nice to our opponents while noting the more benificial aspects of our approach to national issues.

One thing you on the left are correct about going negitive on associates and policies have little benefit beyound the base.

Lon in PA
another Dem clinging to his guns and religion and a racist hater and redneck to boot - at least that's what your new leader O and Cong. Murtha (I can' remember what was said but if it sounds good I am for that) calls your uninformed electorate in PA.

We get back the blue collar Reagan Dems in those urban areas you are bragging about, and you lose, chief.

It's that simple.


Todd
If you are paying someone to read for you, you might fire them as they are not doing their job.

First of all, I have told you I don't live in MN or anywhere even close, so you might try to find another subject for your oh-so-witty repartee.

Second, I am still waiting for you to follow up on your claim that Palin made all of her college transcripts available to the public while Obama didn't. If this claim was like most of your posts, (i.e., a blast of hot air with absolutely no connection to facts) why don't you just admit it? Or do you just let any old shred of garbage roll out of your brain and through your fingertips? (Or do you pay someone to type for you as well?)


Todd
"Dems are history after four years of Obama. All the blue collar Dems and Dixiecrats will go back to Republicans "

Is this another statement like the college transcipt stuff? How many posts of yours did I read before the election that McCain would win the presidency?

Do you also pay someone to do your thinking for you?

You've got to start hiring a better class of employees.

bondbeam
there is a disconnect with Micheal and I dont get it. What is blocking his view of the obvious?

Did GHW Bush win with his kinder gentler ways, or Bob Dole and his Americans with disabilities reaching accross the aisle? No, and How bout GW Bush did the compasionate side of his conservatism help to sway democrats and the media toward his policies? Nope. Oh yeah but the Maverick now theres someone.....Oh wait just lost the election.

Yep good plan lets go more centrist and give further ammo to dems that we just dont know how to govern and our ideas are repeatedly shown lacking. What our ideas lack is the courage to proudly implement them undiluted.

Change the discourse
I have to tell you Michael, the comments on this and other conservative websites is really depressing What I now hear everyone saying is we need to go MORE to the right??? Are you kidding me?

I’m a lifelong Republican from Minnesota. I live in a suburb of Minneapolis (Eden Prairie pop. 80,000) that normally votes 65-35 Republican, but this year went 52-48 for Obama. Eden Prairie is a “swing” district that elected moderate Republicans like Tim Pawlenty and Norm Coleman. I have voted straight Republican since I turned 18 in 1984…but I am totally fed up! This election I cast my vote for Barack Obama.


To get my vote back, Republicans will need to return to the Pawlenty/Coleman model of fiscal responsibility AND social moderation. Enough with the social/cultural issues! We’re on the brink here…teetering on an economic depression. And all I hear my Repub friends talking about is gay marriage. As if that will affect my marriage one iota. But you know what could affect my marriage? Being squeezed financially by rising energy prices or row of foreclose homes on my block driving down the value of my home. Obama spoke to me on those issues. I may not agree on his approach, but he seems like an intelligent, pragrmatic man who’s surrounded himself with the best minds in the country. McCain spoke to me about Bill Ayers and lipstick on a pig! And don’t even get me started on his choice of Sarah Palin.

What a sad joke my old party has become.

Obama's Marxist Background

Barack Obama's clarion call is to "Sacrifice for the Common Good" - to redistribute wealth, as Obama said to 'Joe the Plumber', "letting those behind catch up".

Barack Obama's Marxist background may be meaningless as his worshipers and followers state but the certainly are troubling.

Obama was mentored in his formative teen age years, by Frank Marshall Davis an avowed Communist and member of Communist Party USA.

Obama said he chose his friends carefully "Marxist Professors".

Alice Palmer met Barack Obama during meetings at the home of Bill Ayers and hand picked Obama to fill her newly vacated 'State Senate Seat'.

Alice Palmer served as an executive board member of the U.S. Peace Council, which the FBI identified as a Communist front group.

Michael Klonsky was chosen by Barack Obama as a blogger on the 'Obama official Website'. Klonsky a former leader of 'SDS' - Students for a Democratic Society and a leader of the 'New Communist Party'.

Tim Wheeler is a National Board member of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA) and editor of its newspaper and has been a key figure in the CPUSA's Baltimore chapter since the early 1970s. He helped organize local canvassing and visibility events for Obama, and he chronicled his experiences on the campaign trail in a blog that appeared on the Obama campaign website.

Carl Davidson joined Michael Klonsky (leader of the New Communist Movement) in rejecting traditional politics for fringe Marxist movements. More recently, he helped organize the 2002 rally in which Obama first spoke out against the Iraq War and now serves as the webmaster of Progressives for Obama.


Jim
A really good post. I am a lifelong Democrat, not extreme but loyal, and what I really would like to see not as a Democrat but as a loyal American is a saner voice on the right such as yours.

The ultra-right, paleo-conservative movement that provides a living for people like Medved and Hannity will not work, and the country can only benefit from having opposing parties that provide sound, truly competitive ideas that can only move us forward.

The Dems had to move out of the 60s in order to survive, (although I can't seem to get this through to Retired Geek) and now the Reps need to move out of the 80s. Many Reaganesque fiscal ideas are now 30 years old, why would anybody want to go backwards?

doug
You post alot, but I never have a clear idea of exactly what it is you would like to see - specifically - in a reformed Republican party.

What is your exact vision for the economy, foreign policy, the role of the federal government in private and social issues, education, the course for Afghanistan, etc.?

If you're tempted to say "smaller government", could you be precise?

I would really appreciate hearing from you and Todd, you seem to have a very clear sense of what you hate, what is it you want?

Jim - I forgot to mention
MN is where I grew up. My family was Republican right up until the end, but even though MN elected a wrestler for governor I have always found Minnesotans a pretty sane lot.

My early childhood neighborhood was right near the St. Paul zoo, and later, St. Anthony park, near the St. Paul campus of the U of Minn.

LA
McCain couldn't say what his ideas were because he didn't have any. He has no ideology or principles. He ought to just admit it and join the Democrat party. As should Bush, Hastert, McConnell, Martinez and the rest of the Rockefeller Republicans

Negative campaigning? Right. Sure. Whatever. McCain's "negative" ads looked like they were written by Cindy Sheehan. I knew McCain was toast when he refused to talk about this,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs&feature=related

and this,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivmL-lXNy64

McCain could have won easily. Too bad he is a liberal.

Move On To Socialism with Obama?

"Our sense of power is more vivid when we break a man's spirit than when we win his heart."
Eric Hoffer
------------------------------------

Obamunism Coming to America? Obama will break the spirit of the American worker.

Why work hard and produce when one is punished for it?

Do NOT work hard and produce little and one is rewarded for it.

What is wrong with Obamunism can be summed up in one word 'Initiative'.

When 'Initiative' is lost humans become depressed and quit trying, because there is no reward other than a theoretical 'Sacrifice for the Common Good'.

Like it or not the world revolves around the concept of 'What is in it for me'.

Barack Obama's system brings him power and 'goodies' to his minions and depression of the soul and defeat to the producers.

UNITED STATE OF HOPEFULS
The only bright spot is that POR will be presiding over a useless impoverished third world country (The United States of Hopefuls) and fully pensioned government employees.

Let the econ lesson begin since it ain't taught in America. I for my part am going off grid and underground in every way possible. Who do you think will be hauling around all this global goodwill and hope on their backs? What's left of the private sector when POR get done "changing America".

I suggest home schooling your kids and skipping the state sponsored anti capitalism indoctrination centers (aka public schools). State schools have succeeded beyond the Kremlins wildest dreams.

Todd
I am not sure if you can read the map you posted, but the red neck parts of PA are the parts in red on the map. The blue dots in the Southeast and Southwest are where the people live.

And Murtha, despite his idiotic comment, still won his district pretty easily. You seem to be pursuing a delusion.

Jim
You're either a liar or stupid. I suspect the former, but I'm open-minded enough to accept the latter.

I write the following assuming the latter. Liberals run the GOP, not conservatives. Bush isn't conservative, McCain isn't conservative, Hastert wasn't conservative, McConnell isn't conservative, Brooks, Will, Barnes, Medved and Kristol aren't conservatives,...

They're all a bunch of big-government, amnesty-granting, nation-building, tax and spend liberals.

Social issues? Like I said, you're a liar or dead between the ears.

doug
I concede that maybe "changing his tune" is a little too much credit for Medved.

I blame it on some post hypnotic suggestion from Obama's "Hope for change" ads.

Although it might be this line from todays column.

"Current House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, on the other hand, looks like an addled and terrified ditz in all her TV appearances"

Even a broken clock is still correct twice each day.

Zzzzzzz,,,,,,,,
Medveds arrogant hot air puts me to sleep. What ever party Medved supports is a very good indication to look elsewhere.

Ken92
Stanford huh? Figures.

doug in WA
There is no way in heck Obama is cutting any taxes. Our taxes will go up in 2010 without him doing anything. Obama voted to raise taxes on anyone making 42,000 last year and he will be pressured to raise taxes as soon as he's in offc. Besides that democrats don't cut taxes they raise taxes. Obama ran on fiscal responsibility???--I missed that one! His healthcare reform scares me to death--if it's anything like that of Canada. The Canadians come here for their healthcare. Besides that when have the democrats done ANYTHING right? I don't want them in charge of my heathcare. Let me see Obama's energy independence was inflate your tires (ha ha!) I still can't believe that America is this dumb!

At heart Medved is a liberal
he beleives in big government solutions to problems. That is why he supported the bailout package, the amnesty package, the war of drugs, the occupation of Iraq, the prescripion drug deal, etc. Its also why he supports government intervention in marrage, abortion, and all the other social engineering programs he is so fond of. Liberals always beleave that government is the first and last choice to any problem.

What we need are conservatives that believe in smaller government in government out of out pocket books, out of out bedrooms, out of our back yards.

If the republic party pushs small government ideas, less spending, less taxes, less military involvment in foriegn countries, less support of big business i.e. stopping handouts to multinational corporations then the Republican party can win. Following liberals like bush, McCain and Medved only leads to failure.

Medved
Yeah, let's put the GOP back in power so they can get the K Street Project going again. That's what we need-blind devotion to a party that only sends RINOs and degenerates to office. They had the power and were worse than the Dems; they only got a temporary tax cut so that we would have to continue to send them to DC to keep the tax-cut-fueled boom going.

MD in MN
What do you mean by the celebration of religious fiction? Don't you believe that God created the world? You seem to want to talk a lot about science and impose this crazy idea that God did not create the universe. (evoloution is polution!) There is no doubt in my mind that I am right and one day you will realize it as well.

Darlene
Is your post a send up? I can't tell if it's satire or real, honest.

Hey Lon
There are actually people living pretty much all over Pennsylvania. The greatest concentrations are in Pittsburgh and Filthydelphia, but we mid-staters have been given the ok by Gov. Rendell to refer to ourselves as "people", too. These areas are where all of the food is grown and also are the great source of taxes to support Philly's welfare system and SEPTA. If it weren't for the Phils and the Iggles, I would support gifting Philly to NJ.

Melissa
"The only bright spot is that POR will be presiding over a useless impoverished third world country "

My, how patriotic. And, if America turns into a continent of mass starvation, plague and poverty you're going to do your little conservative I-told-you-so dance?


I'll bet you wear a flag pin, don't you?

Plumber
"McCain couldn't say what his ideas were because he didn't have any. He has no ideology or principles"

Unfortunately, not one Republican on this thread except Jim has been able to state what their ideas, ideology, and principles are. All I've read is threats, insults, and rants.

Doug and Todd post every two minutes about conservative ideals and principles but they are totally unable to name even one.

Can you, or are you a blowhard like all the rest?

CVN65
Ditto your post to Lon. Only replace PA with MI and Pittsburgh/Philly with Detroit.

In an attempt to improve both the USA and Canada we keep trying to get Canada to take Detroit off our hands.

Darlene
As Rush enthusiasts might say: DITTO!

A Canadian-style government-run health care system here in the U.S.? I can ALREADY tell you what it will look like: look at the VA system, only imagine it several orders of magnitude WORSE, if that's possible, and that's what a government-run health care system will look like in the U.S.

If Canadians weren't so proximate to a good private health care system like that of the U.S., the Canadian system would have imploded long ago. A health-care system that is supposedly more democratized for its citizens, as Canada's ostensibly is, actually PENALIZES those at the lower end of the economic stratum, who don't have the wherewithal to avail themselves of U.S. care as their more well-to-do countrymen. I wonder why this hasn't become a major issue up in Canada among those in the lower socioeconomic strata, who must surely bristle at the long waits they have for care while their wealthier countrymen simply waltz over to the U.S. and evade the long waits.

And a LIBERAL DEMOCRAT LOWER TAXES?! The day Obama signs a bill that actually does this is the day I'll look out my window and see pigs flying.

And when the Obama Administration's energy policies make driving unaffordable because gas is either prohibitively expensive or unavailable altogether, we'll see how people like crowding into mass transit media to get to work or other places, like they did in the communist block, all the while being commended by their president on doing their part for the planet while he HIMSELF still uses non-mass-transit conveyances (he'll be as much of a hypocrite on this as his stance on public education once as president he's still sending his OWN children to private schools).

A leopard's spots
While it's nice to entertain the idea that conservatives might come "roaring" back, I'm not as optimistic.

I see some differences. First, Bill Clinton will end up looking like a conservative after Obama gets done. Dick Morris has said that Clinton did try to govern more from the center, but the Dems wouldn't let him. With Obama, some have said he will move toward the center, too. I don't think he will. He's got his "mandate". To my knowledge, a leopard has never changed its spots.

Hillary Clinton is a non-issue. The economy, just like it did with Clinton, will miraculously recover just in time for Obama to easily coast to reelection. Never mind that it's just normal economic cycles. If I were a politician, Dem or Rep, I wouldn't bother in 2012. It's a done deal already.

Second, conservatives are being attacked from not only the left, which is to be expected, but from the Rep party, too. The more "moderate" element of the Reps want to dump conservatives, when in reality, the conservatives, and their support of Sarah Palin, is what helped McCain do as well as he did. But they don't want to acknowledge that. Thus, you see the attacks on Palin and other conservatives and complaints that conservatives are outmoded, non-evolved, etc.

I'm glad somebody's optimistic, but I'm not. I think the country has taken a hard left turn down the slippery slope.

A big difference
There is a big difference between the Clinton election & Obama's -- the GOP could claim that if they were given control of Congress (and later the White House), things would be different. Give them control, they promised, and government would shrink, spending would be cut, pork would be off the congressional menu, conservative judges would be appointed, etc., etc., etc.

So we gave them control of the Congress & we gave them the White House & did any of these things happen? Government grew by leaps & bounds. Spending went out of control -- the GOP actually grew government & spending faster than the Democrats. Pork became the main item on the Congressional menu. And GWB tried to appoint his personal lawyer to the Supreme Court while John McCain teamed up with Teddy Kennedy to block appointments of conservatives.

In 1992, the GOP has SOME credibility -- today they have absolutely NONE.

CVN65 almost forgot.
We might consider keeping Detroit just for the Red Wings but unfortunately we would have to keep the Lions as well so it ends up a wash in the end. Come on Canadadians, wont you reconsider?

Obama's Pinnacle
Yes, Nov 4 was indeed a special day for the Democrats yet in all likelihood this day was there "pinnacle". From this point forward all the national crisis/problems will be Obama's and the Democrats. The Iraq War? Obama's. Financial Crisis? Obama's. Spiraling Deficit? Obama's. And on and on. I not saying it's fair that's just the way it will turn
out. And if the liberal's think I'm joking I would like to remind them that by 1970 the majority of Americans thought Richard Nixon had started the Vietnamese War (LBJ sent troops to Da Nang in 1965, Nixon sworn in Jan 1969).

And the comment's about Obama moving the US to the left? I feel that this is definitely true but the thing that matters (and this is really important) is for Obama and the Democrats to have effective policies. This country is facing a financial crisis that has never been seen in history. GM, Ford, GMAC, Res Cap, Hedge Funds all teetering and on the verge of collapse. The full extent of derivative trading is still not known. This is going to take real leadership (like a Lincoln or FDR) not social experimentation. Without real leadership, our future as a nation will be very bleak.

Also, for the record the national debt grew every year of the Clinton presidency (according to figures from the US

Treasury Dept) and in no year was there ever a budget surplus (I hope this displays like intended):

Fiscal Year Ending National Debt Deficit
FY1993 09/30/1993 $4.411488 trillion
FY1994 09/30/1994 $4.692749 trillion $281.26 billion
FY1995 09/29/1995 $4.973982 trillion $281.23 billion
FY1996 09/30/1996 $5.224810 trillion $250.83 billion
FY1997 09/30/1997 $5.413146 trillion $188.34 billion
FY1998 09/30/1998 $5.526193 trillion $113.05 billion
FY1999 09/30/1999 $5.656270 trillion $130.08 billion
FY2000 09/29/2000 $5.674178 trillion $17.91 billion
FY2001 09/28/2001 $5.807463 trillion $133.29 billion

CVN65
But you do realize that the people in the middle do not have their votes count more just because they do not live as close to each other as people in Philadelphia? Todd seems to be confused about that fact. He keeps pointing to maps that show that more land area favors the Republicans as indicative that more people do.

Encouraging
This is indeed very encouraging, Mr. Medved. All the more reason for conservatives to be organizing and developing a strategy to take back the leadership of the country, but without the mistakes of the last eight years.

Darlene
Well now that I gots your attention let me reiterate why I disagree with you about the eminate doom of the U.S.

Obama did not run on socialized medicine soaking the rich with taxes and military defeat. Had he, he would have lost hands down.

His position on policies may well be argued as to result in those situations but he did not propose those things. Go look at his campaign website if it is still available.

By summerizing your opponents policies to their extreme you sound extreme and to those who are less informed than yourself you will be tuned out. Your opponent will win especially if you have done a lousy job of simplifying your own policies and explaining how it better benefits the voter.



MD, smaller gov. how'd you know I'd
say that.;~)

I am posting alot becouse Mr Medved is some one I think highly of and at the moment I am much displeased with his inability to grasp the idea that conservative ideals are what gets conservatives elected.

As to my lack of specificity of what those conservative ideals are it is becouse I know what Medved views are as to what conservatism is and they are simular to my own. In fact his lableing system on the whole spectrum of politics and my own are simular. That is why when he advocates going further centrist, like he did on his blog then McCain is and I say no reiterate conservatism I am sure we both and many of the conservative posters know exactly what is being talked about.

" you seem to have a very clear sense of what you hate, what is it you want? "

Thanks for clarifing my emotional feelings on large government. Actually I cant recall saying I hated anything the last couple days.

So to answer your questions with specificity. What kind of foriegn policy do I want to see. Heres a specific one. Go read Democracy a new way forward for peace in the middle east 2003 by George Bush.

Go read it take 2 hours of leisure time and read it without trying to intepret it. Just take it line by line not summerizing it and make sure you understand what it is it says.
Then find Public Law 107-243-Oct 16 2002 authorization for use of force in Iraq read it carefully

Those are two specific policies that I endorse fully & completely. There is one other thing about those two items. Brevity. Public Law 107-243 might be 4 pages long. If we (U.S.) did that with most laws,kept them short and to the point, we wipe out a lot of problems.

MD and feckless posts
In a reply to KEN I showed that his distortion of the Bush tax cuts was not based on reality. Then I used an example of my sister becuase she also believes the lie that Rich people don't pay taxes and she believes she should get some of their welath without working for it. Even when shown the truth she continues to believe the lie because it fits her preconcieved liberal notions better. Unfortunately there are to many people in the country like her.

Notice I did not say ALL the people are like her but there are a lot of sheeple out there.

Then MD unable to assail the point I made about tax rates being cut for EVERYONE by the curent President makes a comment about my choice of using her as an example.

There are informed voters on both the right and the left but anyone that thinks the majority of voters are informed about the issues or take time to educate themselves on the facts is self-deluded.

MD
tax reform, small government

If the GOP had done just those two things, the base wouldn't have stayed home or voted Third Party in '04 and '06. Amnesty was the final nail which McCain was never able to pull from the liberal casket which he lay.

Lose the base, lose the race.


Compassionate Conservatism
....is dead. We are returning to the tried and true, Conservatism, that of Jefferson, Lincoln, Silent Cal ("Mr. President, I have a bet with a friend I can get you to say more than two words tonight at diner". To which he replied "You lose".), Barry Goldwater, and Ronald Reagan.

We do that, and win hearts and minds after what is going t be four very rough years of indecisive leadership in all sectors of government.

Too many promises impossible to keep; too many calls made wrongly on the world stage. It'll be easy to win.

Two central central differences
Clinton, while a smart and masterful politician, ran a conventional campaign that drew on existing Democratic party infrastructure. Obama by contrast built his own infrastructure and in the process a much further reaching and more committed coalition.

Also, for all his skills, in terms of organization and discipline he was a disaster. As President Obama's immensely well organized and disciplined campaign has illustrated, he does not share this flaw.

Todd, you have got to be kidding..lmao
todd states:

"We do that (move further to the right), and win hearts and minds after what is going to be four very rough years of indecisive leadership in all sectors of government."

what a load of horse manure..lmao...I'll give you credit for wishful thinking though.

first of all there is no way in heck you can win the potus or retake control of congress with a coalition of conservatives only.

secondly depending on Prez elect Obama and the dem led congress to fail at governance is incredibly foolish and naive..evidently you havent been paying attention to the people who are being mentioned for Prez-elect Obamas staff and cabinet..pretty much all veteran proven experts in their fields, with record of success. indecisive leadership? dude you are too funny..rotflmao

MD in MN
Sorry, I didn't mean to come across that way. I was only serious.

Left Angle are you serious
Jamie Gorelick is on Obama short list for AG she has a record of success and is a proven expert? She lead the Fannie Mae crash and it was here work as deputy attorney general that lead to the 9-11 terrorist attacks.

So far everyone on Team Obama has a proven history of corruption. Its likely that if this continues the Obama admin will go down in history as the most corrupt in at least 100 years.

Todd
Hey Todd, now call me crazy but i'm pretty sure that Jefferson brought about seperation of church and state9 the very thing that haunts the "no nothings" on the religous right) and he, unlike just about every conservative, gave a significant tax cut on the majority of Americans by getting rid of the tax on alcoholic beverages. Lincoln as far as I know, presides enacting one of the most socially liberal acts in history by getting rid of slavery and thereby defying the popular conservative legal philosophy of legalism, enacted a few infrastructure projects(a popular stance held by progressives) like the first transcontinental railroad, and also incorporated the National Academy of sciences. So I guess according to history Lincoln was NOT A CONSERVATVE nor did he have a single conservative bone in his body. So Todd do your research before refering to people who you think are conservatives, but are actually progressives.

Richard lets talk when
the cabinet is actually chosen. I stand by my predictions of a period of longterm successful governance by Sen. Obama and the dem led Congress in putting this nation back on the "right track" after watching the Bush-Cheney administration and former repub congress all but destroy it over the last 8 years.

correction:
President Elect-Obama and the dem led congress.

hey Kyle
stop confusing conservative with liberals. Getting rid of slavery was a conservative ideal its a response to the ideal of personal liberity and responsiblity instead of group rights.

Left Angle you had a short memory
successful governance hasn't existed in this country for 20 years. Remember 90% of Bush-Cheney policies were just continations of Clinton-Gore policies of which 90% were just contination of of Bush-Quayle. We haven't seen successful governance in the USA since Bush-Quayle turned the government hard left in 1989. I bet in four years we'll see that Obama has follow at least 80% of the same policies as Bush has. I bet that come 2012 there will still be 90,000 troops in Iraq, that we'll still be fighting in Aghanistan, that the ecomony will still be in recession, and we will be importing 60% of out oil.

conservative policies?
seriouly all i keep on hearing from alot of you guys on TH is small government, traditional values, and ultra huge army. please for the love of god one of you conservatives tell me what ideas do those priciples translate into, just give me a few ideas that you guys want to carry out(and it can't be getting rid of the capital gains tax for the top 1%).

Richard
your ex-Gov has already secured the distinction of most corrupt and inept.

hey Richard
First "eat my shorts", second of all if it was a personal liberty issue then why didn't Barry Goldwater support the voting rights act even though voting would fall under teh subject of personal liberty(actually i know why, because Barry GOldwater believed it violated states rights, but how would Lincoln be a conservative if he, at the time, violated one of the most important states rights. That sounds pretty progressive to me)

richard puhleeze..
I'd say without a doubt the Clinton years were highly successful..even with your failed republican impeachment and trail. he still left office with a 65% approval rating and would have won a third term easily if he had been allowed to run again.. you have to be joking about obama following bush's failed policies..that's really funny as in absurd, dude. obama was elected to "reverse" practically
everything bush-cheney did and he will.

Todd Location: FL
"four very rough years of indecisive leadership in all sectors of government."

I disagree. There will be many decisions made, mostly bad, by the recycled "experts" from the Clinton administration, the ones who helped Clinton engineer the financial meltdown and the resulting economic mess.



How A Clinton-Era Rule Rewrite Made Subprime Crisis Inevitable

http://ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=307149667289804

Why the Mortgage Crisis Happened

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/what_really_happened _in_the_mo.html


Why not Kyle
(and it can't be getting rid of the capital gains tax for the top 1%). If this is a policy that conservatives think and can show will loosen up capital investment why cant it be that?

because doug
getting rid of the capital gains tax has been thrown around too many times and presides it's only a 15% tax and alot of mayjor institutions involved in the financial sector don't even pay capital gains taxes so overall it might not have much an effect and also if it's at 0% then how do we collect money made through the stock market. I"m just saying i want to hear what other ideas you conservatives have before i consider who I vote for in the next 4 years.

Obama will decrease tax revenues
"obama was elected to "reverse" practically
everything bush-cheney did and he will."

But why would you want to decrease tax revenues?
Tax rate reductions increase tax revenues. This truth has been proved at both state and federal levels, including by President Bush's 2003 tax cuts on income, capital gains and dividends. Those reductions have raised federal tax receipts by $785 billion, the largest four-year revenue increase in U.S. history. In fiscal 2007, which ended last month, the government took in 6.7% more tax revenues than in 2006.

Lower tax rates have be so successful in spurring growth that the percentage of federal income taxes paid by the very wealthy has increased. According to the Treasury Department, the top 1% of income tax filers paid just 19% of income taxes in 1980 (when the top tax rate was 70%), and 36% in 2003, the year the Bush tax cuts took effect (when the top rate became 35%). The top 5% of income taxpayers went from 37% of taxes paid to 56%, and the top 10% from 49% to 68% of taxes paid. And the amount of taxes paid by those earning more than $1 million a year rose to $236 billion in 2005 from $132 billion in 2003, a 78% increase.

Finally, another inconvenient truth is that there have been 49 consecutive months of job growth as a result of the economic expansion induced by President Bush's 2003 tax rate reductions.

While we're comparing stats...
There's one "fact" that the glass-half-full column forgets to mention: Whites now make up 74% of the electorate...The fast growing Hispanics voters have roundly dismissed the GOP as insensitive to immigration...The reality here is that you guys keep talking about "Reagan", "Reagan Democrats", "Reagan Principles" and all-other-things-Reagan...The party of "Nixon Southern Strategy" has no idea how to change with the demographics. There's a word for this. It's Lauuzzerrs!

Seriously
Some conservative blogging here give me a specific policy that would help this country in any way that translates into your principles.

What the people vote for
and what they get are very different things.

I voted for Bush in 2000 because he promised to reverse Clinton policies including getting the troops out of a needless war in the Balkins. I didn't get that did I? Try finding a major difference in policy on any issue between Bush and Clinton. In two years will will face the equally impossible task of finding a difference between Obama's policies and Bush's.

Me I'm a conservative not a republican I haven't voted for a republican since 2000 and don't expect I'll vote for one any time soon because like the Democrats the Republican party is controled by liberals in fact the same liberals they really are a single party.

And for the record by any objective measurement the clinton years were a deseaster, certainly a deseaster for anyone who believes in freedom and smaller government.

Which brings us back to Lincoln being a conservative because he policies resulted in smaller government. Its only a large powerful federal government that can enforce slavery on a people.

Please Bush was bad but worst no only about the fifth worst behind LBJ, JFK, and Carter which in fact makes him tied with Clinton not surprising since they are basicly the same.

Easly Kyle
Replace the federal income tax with a flat tax of 12%. Get rid of the IRS which will result in a smaller much less powerful federal government and stop politicans from buying votes by writting tax loopholes for rich and powerfull money people.

Close down all foriegn military bases and bring the troops home. Instead of buidling useless super carriers build a Navy designed to protect the American Coast.

End the war on Drugs and scrap the DEA make drugs legal while controlling criminals that miss use drugs. DWI automatic miminum sentence of 5 years. Kill someone while under the influce life without parole at hard labor. Get drunk, stoned, high in your home or back yard your family problem not the government.

Want more?

Richard
As far as i can tell your not letting up so good for you, but you didn't give an example of how Lincoln made the government smaller. So how aobut you give a SPECIFIC example of how Lincloln made the government smaller, because as far as i know under Lincoln the government had a pretty active role (not just because of the civil war).

Thank you
Richard that's all i wanted, just a few ideas thanks

Damn David Ricardo
Enough already you guys and your class consciousness, the top 1%, please. This is government in its finest hour, removing the invisible hand for the guiding hand. The corn model, the antagonistic system, and the iron law of wages and in using this mathematical model, for determining the real value in such an economic change. Keynes said it best, "It is astonishing what foolish things one can temporarily believe if one thinks too long alone, particularly in economics." Who is the fool now...

simplefy tax code
extend Bush tax cuts
eliminate homeland security dept.
require medical providers list prices and accept cash payment for services.
allow for cross state purchases of health insurance.
reevaluate epa,dept of agriculture,fda,etc regulations and reform as needed.

Hate to diagree with Mr Medved...


http://spectator.org/archives/2008/11/06/saul-alinsky-takes -the-white-h

http://www.faithfreedom.org/index.htm

http://www.faithfreedom.org/obama.html

Medved Is Wrong
I understand the hopefullness in Medved's piece, you want to think of a positive future and the GOP will have many oppertunties in the future but 2010 will not be 1994. If the Democrats are very unpopular in two years, (meaning they made many mistakes and the public turns on them and stops blaming President Bush) which I don't see happening, they may lose 10-15 house seats and at the most 2 Senators. That is a look at the electoral data which Medved ignores.

If the party really wants to take the reins in 2010 it will come at the state level not the federal. Will the GOP pick up Governorships in red states? State houses and state senates? This is the challenge to the party. They may be able to gain some traction in the house but not regain the majority. But the Senate is not even close for grabs.

Many parts of the country are harshly anti-GOP and it was Republicans across the country that made 94 possible. Last but not least, trying to compare the 92/96 races to 08 is wrong because of third party factor.

But the main point of Medved's piece is right...Republicans can win again. But it will be harder than ever before and they need much better evidence than Medved provides.

Hate to disagree with Mr Medved...
...but we won't see another Republican/Conservative/American government in our lifetime...

http://www.faithfreedom.org/obama.html

http://www.faithfreedom.org/index.htm

http://spectator.org/archives/2008/11/06/saul-alinsky-takes -the-white-h

Theres no goin' back from this one i'm afraid.

Klye are you aware
that the majority of soldier fighting for the union were not Federal troops? Only 1 in 10 belonged to the Federal army the other 9 were state troops. Also the expansion of the railroads etc were done with private money and corporations the government give land and tax relief they didn't control or run anything.

Key to Winning the Hispanic vote
How can the GOP win the Hispanic Vote?

Conservatism... Reagan conservatism...

Hispanics are pro-life, hard-working, and success-oriented. They are committed to strong families that support the success of their children. And they oppose gay marriage.

In other words, they are mainstream conservative Americans. They just need someone with similar values for whom they can vote.

Sarah Palin comes to mind...

"Repubelickems" can go to blazes.
We deserve a New American Conservative Party.
I've already divorced the abusive spouses of the CINOGOP.

Rush, Sean, Levin, Ingram, Coulter, should get together for dinner with Dick Morris, maybe Newt and launch the thing.

If the Rocky Feeler Robber Barons of the Gilt Bird Cabin Conservative Free GOP want to be Dumbolcrap/Commiqrs, let em.
The Reagan Movement needs to be faithful to itself, not an disfunctional abusive relationship with unfaithful perverts.

Medved is right about the possibilities but wrong about the Party that betrayed us.

Move on!

The Big Mick

Medved
We won't win crap with guys like Medved thinking for us. Romney would have won the GOP base and independants as well - but dummy Medved didn't like him. So now we have a crooked, socialist from Chicago for 4 years.
Medved is a bigoted moron.

Sorry
it took me so long to respond, I was offline for a while, but here's the deal, projects like the transcontinental railroad probably did include tax incentives but that project did start with government resources to facilitate the program in the first place. And to conclude the whole Lincoln argument, I will admit that Lincoln did things like pass the homestead act of 1862 which turned over public land to settlers, but he also had the good will not to let them fend for themselves and he decided to help create land grant colleges to each them agricultural techniques. So personally I think when it came to Lincoln he was neither a liberal or conservative but just a competent man who had the best aspects of both political philosophies, who not just recognized that the private sector is the best source for creating abundance( which believe it not most people believe it does to) but also that sometimes we need government to perform certain actions wheter it be oversight or just general actions the private sector just won't do. So overall how about we just say Lincol wasn't the conservative or the liberal he was just THE MAN.

Re the "Hispanic" vote
2nd attempt

If they speak English they are Americans and vote like the rest of us.

If they don't they are Reconquista Invaders and need to be shot on sight, to Niflheim with deportation. The Resistance didn't "deport" Nazis.

the big mick

Iran-Israel War coming very soon?
I see on the news today that Iran says it just successfully test-fired a missile that it says has a range of 1200 miles - plenty enough to reach Israel and even southeastern Europe. And with the Iranians plunging full-steam ahead with their nuclear program: well,........

Obama may not have to wait even the six months Biden said it would take before the world tested him: he may be taking the oath of office with a major war already going on in the Middle East or about to erupt. Wonder how he'd respond to it?

memo to der ronster
Mittyites beechin about Romboid being a victim of bigotry didn't gain him any votes in the Primaries and won't now. Let the man MARKET his conservatism and CONVINCE "the base" his waffling in MA wasn't his REAL self and above ALL tell his "you are all anti-mormon bigots" partisans to shut the Niflheim UP! and he might actually rise to leadership in the party. He IS more Conservative than Mr. "damn the Nativists"
Huckyou!

You didn't help his cause ronster.

mick

Tnsdlr
"There are informed voters on both the right and the left but anyone that thinks the majority of voters are informed about the issues or take time to educate themselves on the facts is self-deluded. "

I totally agree! Also, what's really depressing is the extent to which people take anything they read on the internet, probably the least reliable source on earth, as God's truth.

The majority of voters vote on Emotion, personality, rumor, fiction, gossip, class,and good looks. It's amazing to me that this country is still standing.

doug
Thanks for responding to my question, I had to leave this afternoon and lost my place in the parade, so I can't respond to all of it at one time, but I need to tell you this, although none of you want to hear it:

The fact is, people say they want small government but they really don't. Ask anybody if they're ready to give up social security, medicare, SSI, public schools, the post office, etc., etc., they really don't want to see those things go. They like the words, not the fact.
Also, most people, especially conservatives ,want ever more government interfering in our private lives; they want government to tell us who we can marry, how we decide for our reproductive issues and our own bodies, for that matter: how we medicate ourselves, how we die, what we can say and can't say in public or on the radio; what we can expect to read and communicate in private without the government listening in, and on and on and on.

Small government is not about letting us drive without a seat belt; it is the intrusion into our most basic private lives that conservatives constantly rationalize away.

Plumber
My post about small government was for you, too.

Also, a question for you and Doug: how were your lives changed by Bush's tax cuts? It certainly didn't help our economy, as you may have noticed, and the people I know who have all the money they will ever need admit they didn't need that much additional money; of course, they got more than everybody else.

MD in MN
is back from his job at the day care as a Mr. Roberts impersonator - yeah!

Hey, MD, you find any brains yet or are you still canvassing for a Jesse Ventura write-in campaign for next gubernatorial contest for all you MN flakes?

Al Franken get hold of you yet to ask for (second) vote?

You libs - always so busy asking yourself what went wrong you can never see the forest for the trees.


MD in MN
Sorry for the slight - you know I meant "back from your job as a Mr. Rogers impersonator at a day care.......you are creepy, Doc.

John Wayne Gacy creepy. I can hear you asking "everybody likes Mr. Rogers don't we?"

Gacy was a Dem too.

Kylie in NY
You are a perfect example of lib profs teaching people crap about U.S. History. Lincoln was a liberal because he emancipated the slaves?

Right, Kylie. Take one act, which he based upon the logic it was the right thing to do, completely DISREGARD his writings, that prove his Conservatism, mainly through the context in which Lincoln thought through all things with, that being our Founding Fathers........

One act does not make the man. The man's life, and the letters and other papers he leaves behind, define the man.

You are stupid, and wrong about both Jefferson and Lincoln.

We Republicans embrace the Constitution, as written. Your reference to our undermining church and state is specious lib BS - and you know it.

Left Angle in MD
is a left wingnut, to wit:

Subject: Todd, you have got to be kidding..lmao
todd states:

"We do that (move further to the right), and win hearts and minds after what is going to be four very rough years of indecisive leadership in all sectors of government."

what a load of horse manure..lmao...I'll give you credit for wishful thinking though.

first of all there is no way in heck you can win the potus or retake control of congress with a coalition of conservatives only.

secondly depending on Prez elect Obama and the dem led congress to fail at governance is incredibly foolish and naive..evidently you havent been paying attention to the people who are being mentioned for Prez-elect Obamas staff and cabinet..pretty much all veteran proven experts in their fields, with record of success. indecisive leadership? dude you are too funny..rotflmao "

Hey, Left Angle. Think LBJ and 1964. Obama is using his economic playbook - at least he was on the trail.

He loses either way - he uses it and will fail even bigger than LBJ did.

He doesn't and his base crumbles because they will be so pissed off at him they won't come out for him again.

LMAO - you are so historically ignorant! We Republicans were dead in '64 - remember? Oh, weren't born yet? Then I understand - your dimwit lib profs never told you because they were too busy indoctrinating you to be a lefty lib! Loser!

name that mass murderer
John Wayne Gacy - activist Dem in Chitown

Richard Speck - the strangler was a Dem

LBJ - killed 58,000 all in the name of wanting to win in '64 - was afraid of being seen as too weak by the hawks so he created Tonkin Resolution to send in troops to Viet Nam. Good man!

Charles Manson - liberal and believed in the maxim we all just need to get along - but was misunderstood by his communal liberal followers. So Dems in "normal" society decide let's keep him alive at taxpayer's expense so we can learn more from the man!

Richard Ramirez - the Night Stalker in CA. Downtrodden Dem who had the support of Nancy Pelosi. Who compromised the police investigation by going on TV and grandstanding, revealing secret evidence that the police had - setting the investigation back months (and probably costing lives too). But while the cameras rolled it made her look good, authoritative, in-charge etc. Anything to gain political advantage. What a great leader you Dems have!

Prof. Ward Churchill. Killed Federal agents at Wounded Knee. Wait....all you lib Dems quit looking for your tom-toms as you read this...he wasn't really an Indian! I forgot and mixed him up with someone else!




I forgot
about Ted Bundy - a Republican.

But at least he's dead - executed as he should have been!

But you Dems have a bigger base of whack jobs nut cases than we Republicans to be sure!


MD
The fact is, people say they want small government but they really don't. Ask anybody if they're ready to give up social security, medicare, SSI, public schools, the post office, etc., etc., they really don't want to see those things go.

MD, public schools are not federal they are state and local. I certainly would give up the federal dept of education.

The post office part of the original mandate for the federal gov.

Id give up the endowment for the arts.

Id morph the homeland security back into the CIA,U.S. military,and FBI, and the several other federal agencies from which its duties were covered before.

Abortion, Marriage, and several other hot topics of the day were not and should not be handled on a Federal Level.

I have given numerous examples in this and previous responses to you in where I think cuts are possible and to what effect conservative ideas can be used to examine and reform the Federal budget and its policies. You come back with.....I dont really mean it. Yeah yeah I do and I think with the proper information as to why and how those policies would benefit people so to would the majority of Americans.

Later with more facts about tax cuts and the economy

hmmmm
And Michael what damage can President Obama do for the next 4 years. What happens if he does push through some type of new health care system? Just as you said on your radio, start a new entilement program and will just be about impossible to end it. And i am willing to bet that within the next 4 years is going to be major SS and medicare reform. What is that going to look like? What happens if President Obama goes back and pushes a new Prescription drug program. Hmm no more doughnut hole. Ahh buy off the seniors for the next election.

Hillary
Any Democrat who thinks Hillary and Bill have lost their appetite for the presidency is kidding themselves. I can only imagine what Hillary must have been thinking on election night watching Obama give his speech in Grant Park in Chicago. I have no doubt she would have beaten McCain as well. Unless Obama stumbles horribly in his first term as President Carter did, I doubt seriously that Hillary would challenge him for the Democratic nomination in 2012. It will be interesting to see what transpires these next four years, but you have to think President Obama is going to keep a sharp eye on Senator Clinton and Bill.

Moderate Conservative
David Brooks has a fairly interesting column in today's NY Times (on line) about the battle between the Palin-populists, who think the answer is to look back and become even more conservative, and the reformers, who want to change with the times and find ways to open up to, for example, Hispanics, young people, and other groups who are now an important part of the new century picture.

He thinks that the retros will win out for the next years, but continue to lose elections because they want to keep their constituency narrow and "pure".

He says that the party is now run by the populists, and that any dissension or question-asking within the party is not tolerated now will it be for a while to come.

Doug and Plumber
I didn't intend to say that you didn't mean what you said about taxes, I was just arguing the point.

But to say that you want "tax cuts extended" or even no taxes, is not to really say anything. Do you think there should be any taxes at all? What do you think they should pay for? Do you think that a tax cut that favored the rich while we were hemorraghing money for a war was a good idea? Why? Do you think that your tax cut, which was essentially paid for by virtue of another IOU to the Chinese was a smart idea? I this in sync with your no-tax philosophy?

Just asking.

Ranger29
"the 'right wing' GOP is thought of as a failure now".............

And so it was in '64 after LBJ's true landslide victory.

Whereupon we went on to win 7 of 10 elections.

We will do so again.

Doug
MD, public schools are not federal they are state and local. I certainly would give up the federal dept of education."

But Doug, public schools could not exist without federal money (those taxes you dislike) and in fact, the No Child Left Behind Act is as federal as they come.

Also, if you think that the feds should totally stay out of public education, there will be many people who could not afford it. Second, what if a portion of the country were to become very radical, let's say communist-leaning, or shite supremacist, and wanted to teach their philosophies in their local schools. Should the feds have anything to say about it?

For that matter, if a state decides that minority children can't attend public schools, should the feds stay out of it? Do you think that Eisenhower's confrontation at Little Rock was the right thing to do?


Chris
I'm sure Hillary's taste for the presidency definitely HASN'T diminished since Election Day - more than EVER now, she must feel Obama cheated her out of the grand prize that should have been hers - but unless Obama is dead by the primary season in 2012, I don't see any path for Hillary to be able to be elected president in 2012. See my post just before 8:00 am this morning on this subject.

In addition, even IF Obama so horribly stumbles as president that by 2012 he either decides it best for him not to seek re-election or if even Democrats feel he's been such a disaster that they bounce him out on his ear in the primary season in favor of Hillary, I think Obama's failure STILL doesn't help Hillary. I think it's likely that with the disastrous policies Obama will likely have pursued as president, Hillary will all but certainly have signed off on through her votes in the U.S. Senate, so I'd seriously question whether she even COULD separate herself from Obama's record. In other words, even if Obama takes himself down by 2012, he'll all but certainly be dragging Hillary down with him - and in all likelihood, the prospects of ANY Democrat to succeed him in 2012.

Chris
I suspect you are right about Hillary - 2016 will be her last chance to run, age-wise. But I almost think that the disappointment of 2008 was worse for Bill.

Comeback?
Question is no CAN the GOP comeback but SHOULD the GOP comeback or just go away. Time for a Conservative party perhaps...

How can Conservatives who don't want government taking our money in the first place coexist with Republicans who think it's ok as long as they can beg for some of it back and get credit for doing so.

That is playing on the Liberal's field and why the GOP can never seem to get critical mass.

Can the GOP come back?
What a stupid question! The GOP has been down before and has risen to be much stronger. Obama and his leftist illuminati cronies may have won the election but they haven't won the battle.

MD
"Bush's tax cuts? It certainly didn't help our economy, as you may have noticed,"

Tax rate reductions increase tax revenues. This truth has been proved at both state and federal levels, including by President Bush's 2003 tax cuts on income, capital gains and dividends. Those reductions have raised federal tax receipts by $785 billion, the largest four-year revenue increase in U.S. history. In fiscal 2007, which ended last month, the government took in 6.7% more tax revenues than in 2006.

There have been 49 consecutive months of job growth as a result of the economic expansion induced by President Bush's 2003 tax rate reductions.

The Dow Jones Ind. Avg. went from 7300 in 2003 to 14,200 in 2007, before the financial meltdown occurred, engineered by the Democrats.

The historical data on changes in the capital gains tax rate show an incredibly consistent pattern. Just after a capital gains tax-rate cut, there is a surge in revenues: Just after a capital gains tax-rate increase, revenues take a dive.

You Have Got to Get Out More
Seriously, you folks are so wrapped up in your thought patterns that you can not even consider another point of view--or understand some basic tenets of politics. For example, Obama is called a communist and a panderer to Wall St., a bastion of capitalism, at the same time; that's like saying someone is an atheist and a Baptist. The two are mutually exclusive. Come on, think back to social studies class, or at least go to Wikipedia to get a handle on these ideas. By the way, Karl Marx would not by any means approve of Barack Obama. He would consider him as a typical member of the bourgeosie.

Don't you see that columnists like Medved tell you exactly what you want to hear. Why is that? Well look at his info. Does it include all his books? Well, he won't sell them if his opinion disagrees with yours. And another thing, it really does not add to the Republican Party that your elected officials are the most right-wing conservatives; in fact, Sarah Palin and others can see the handwriting on the proverbial wall, which is why they are now being conciliatory.

Finally, the 52-plus percent of the population that elected Obama is not made up of a few young stoners. Some of Obama's greatest support came from volunteers in the 18-30 category, and they worked to get him elected; they did not sit around getting high.
Not to mention the fact, that the Democrats are also winning the college-educated professional class, another growing number. My general care physician told me that she doesn't know of more than one or two fellow doctors, out of dozens, who voted for McCain.

Medved's words might be soothing and hopeful to you, but I wouldn't count on a big comeback anytime soon. Obama and the Democrats are too smart to fritter away their major advantages: intelligence and the trust of the majority of the public.

MD of course I think taxes are
needed and necesary. Are you trying to say that every budget item of the U.S. federal government is needed, and would wreck our great nation if deleted or after evaluation of its usefulnes reduced?


As for Public schools needing federal dollars, why?

91% of all elementry and secondary school funds are non federal dollars. Source U.S. department of Education. How is it that 9 percent of a budget would wipe out schools? There is no state in the union that is so poor as to not be able to provide for basic education.

Is it better for all education decisions to be made from D.C. and just how much funding and control should come from the federal gov?

Up until 1980 the department of education was not a cabinet level and funding was given only for very specific projects and or locations.Its size and scope has greatly increased since then.
There has been a very limited tradition and role for the Federal gov. in education. Id like it to return to that.

Do you think there should be no limit to the federal gov. role in what is a local responsibility?

"For that matter, if a state decides that minority children can't attend public schools"

I dont see that as an education question as much as a equal protection under the law in which there is a federal role to be played.

Curiculum should be left to the States and locals to decide.

How bout this for every dollar of tax cut I would reduce spending by three dollars. My last 2 places of reduction would be in defense social security

I dont believe tax rate cuts or the continueing of taxrate cuts decreased revenue to the U.S. gov. I believe it increased revenue.


Lois
"Don't you see that columnists like Medved tell you exactly what you want to hear."

No not exactly go to his blog column and look up the article "Was the Maverick too moderate to Win?" He didnt say what I wanted to hear in his support for McCain, and his conclusion in that article is certainly far from what I want to hear. Although he and I concur that the GOP can come back we definately disagree on what will drive that comeback.

Election
These are not normal times as your article assumes. Obama will be able to do so much damage to our country that those of us who once loved it so much will not recognize it. There will be no going back after 4 years of The One!

After 4 Years
These are not normal times as your article assumes. Obama will be able to do so much damage to our country that those of us who once loved it so much will not recognize it. There will be no going back after 4 years of The One!

Michael
"Nevertheless, Republicans came together behind conservative principles and took full advantage of the inevitable stumbles of the rookie president. "

There's just one problem with this. After the Republicans gained power they betrayed those same conservative principles. Although their "Contract With America" caused the country to rally around them, they betrayed the voters who put faith in them. They should have been sued for breach of that contract.

What can they offer next time? Contract II with America (this time we really, really mean it).

Once trust is lost, it's almost impossible to regain.

Reck Is Right
Isn't this what I've been tellin you for the lat year Mike, despite all your articles of impendin doom if McCain lost?

A bit of needed tonic
Isn't it something how the world didn't slide into oblivion the last time this shakeup happened to Republicans? Of course the GOP will survive and come back in a formidable way. Medved does a good job of analyzing the persona in the current makeup of Congress and their relative strengths/weaknesses. Don't let the liberal media illuminati paint a false picture.

Remember the Dems
It was not to long ago that the Dems were in the same spot, Bush was president, and the GOP controlled both houses. They were depressed, it looked dismal to them, they turned it around, we have turned it around in the past, and will do it again.

Doug
You said ""For that matter, if a state decides that minority children can't attend public schools"

"I dont see that as an education question as much as a equal protection under the law in which there is a federal role to be played.

Curiculum should be left to the States and locals to decide."

Doug, I don't pretend to be an expert on educational theory, but here's what I would say right off the top of my head:

The US has become a boiling, multi-cultural (including local, regional cultures, like Southern Texas and Boston, for example)country that is on a rapid downward educational slide when compared to many other countries, and aside from that, it is hurting ourselves and our future. Everybody who knows will tell you that we desperately need people who are strong in the sciences, for example, or in math and engineering. It is essential to our future economy, (if there is one) and to our future influence in the larger world. You sound like you think that schools should not be saddled with requirements or standards that will prepare children for a place in any part of the world.

If you read alot of history, you can see that one of the most dangerous conditions for the survival of any culture is ignorance, which breeds superstition, fear, and intra-cultural division. So it's great, theoretically, if all the schools in Southern Arkansas want to replace biology classes with snake handling, but in the end I don't believe it's good for the rest of us.

Doug
Here's a government website that contains information about federal funding of public schools. It just expands on what you wrote, kind of interesting. http://www.ed.gov/about/overview/fed/10facts/index.html

In thinking it over, I suspect we come closer to agreeing somewhere in the middle than we realize. I certainly don't want the feds to design the curriculum for all children - NCLB was a disaster, any teacher will tell you that. But I also think that in a country as disparate and big as ours, there needs to be some kind of unifying standard for education.

MD you are correct but
the problem with the present education system as pushed by the liberals in Washington is its anti-science and anti-math.

I had a teacher a good union memeber a grad with honours from a teaching college tell me its unimportant if her students got the correct answer to a math problem it was only important that the felt good about the math process. That is the liberal ideal answers, facts, solutions to problems are unimportant the only important thing is that the students feel good about things.

Just look at the push for Man made Global warming any teacher or professor that even suggest there is room for doubt places his job at risk.

Liberal is all about dogma not scientific reseach.

Been There . . . Done That
Medved's analysis is somewhat "comforting," but who is to be the new Newt Gingrich? Or, perhaps, will it be the old Newt again?

The Immoral GOP
Let the immoral GOP go. Support the Constitution Party (www.constitutionparty.com).

To Richard in TX
I am sorry you had some very bad teachers. They are not representative of most, nor of the philosophy of the Democratic Party.
Everyone wants a better education system. How that is achieved is where difference lie. For instance, School vouchers. Republicans are for them, Dem are against. (yes, this is simplified, only to make a point)Republicans are for them because it goes along with a capitalist mindset. The better the school, the more people are willing to attend. An unproductive school no one will want to go. Sounds good. However, the Democrats are against them because it means less money for the schools that actually need more money to improve (hirer better teachers, update books, etc).Realistically, those that would take advantage of the vouchers are those that are already sending their children to private schools (and paying for it themselves). The government would be financing a large part of a student's education that they previously were not. The parents get a break on tuition to a private school they were ALREADY sending their child to. Meanwhile, the poor kid in the poorly run public school will receive less money (because the rich kid in private school takes some from the pot) and doesn't end up at that better of an institution. Also, the government may pay the tuition, but not the transportation. Who is in a better position to provide that transportation to the private school across town, the parents of the private school student, or the parent(s) of an inner city school student?

Richard in Tx
You state: Liberal is all about dogma not scientific reseach.

Ever hear of Stem Cell Research? Now, what 'dogma' is limiting it?

To Stacey
Most conservatives I know are for stem-cell research. They are just against EMBRYONIC stem cell research, for two reasons. One, it destroys a human life, and two, it has yet to produce a single result.

Now adult stem cell research has yielded lots of results, and does not kill life. In addition, it is now possible to get the equivalent of an embryonic stem cell without taking a human life, and most conservatives are fine with that.

It is the liberal dogma that pushed for embryonic stem cell research, which had NO results, and ignored adult stem cell research, which had proven results.

Liberals are in general anti-science. Why else would they push such lies as man-made global warming or abiogenesis? The fact that they want scientific debate out of the classroom is just one example of how leftists value dogma over fact.

MD
"You sound like you think that schools should not be saddled with requirements or standards that will prepare children for a place in any part of the world."

How do you get this from what I wrote?
Local control of standards does not mean SUBSTANDARD.

In my area we have 10s of thousands of Boeing employees along with thousands of Microsoft employs developing some of the most advanced technology in the world. Do you think they would go for substandard education for their children?

I would like to think you are truely trying to understand my position, and yet you come to the conclusion that I think ("schools should not be saddled with requirements or standards that will prepare children for a place in any part of the world.")

Let me repeat I am for local, state standards for education. Local does not mean substandard


ALAN KEYES COULD HAVE WON FOR GOP
From my observation of Ambassador Alan Keyes over a good many years, I would have to say that, had Republicans had the common sense to nominate him to run for president instead of the corrupt, liberal media's choice for us, McCain, he would easily have treated O like an after dinner mint.

Then Republicans would have had the first truly black (as opposed to O's 6% black genes) president, a genuine conservative and a man of enormous courage and moral integrity. To top it off, he would not have been an illegal alien nor a Muslim.

Since the time of Roosevelt, it has become increasingly obvious to me that stupidity reigns supreme in both major parties. That must come to a screeching halt as far as Republicans are concerned, or our nation will descend into the dust bin of history and that without remedy.

To Barbarorossa 89
I realize embryonic stem cell research is highly controversial. However, that controversy is based on dogma, not science.
(to correct a misconception - embryonic research does not kill an embryo - it uses an embryo that was ALREADY going to be destroyed anyway - usually from fertilization procedures).
And you are right in that embryonic stem cell research has not provided the desired results of its claims. However, it is still in its early stages. You are not right about adult stem cells. They have not yielded "lots of results". In fact, adult stem cells can only currently be used in blood diseases, no other. (not to diminish the amazing things Scientists have done using them, only stating their limitations).

Mickey Medved - - time to retire
Medved - Your movies reviews always sucked as do your views on your party and the current status of American Politics. Wake up and realize your views are not that of main street America. Your old sick views of neoconn theft and mismanagement is finished and hopefully we're coming after you....Don't you get it yet - America rejected your fear, the end is near - while your friends steal our tax money - corporate welfare

Koolmuse, Jim, Will
Koolmuse --- I want you.

Thinking.


Jim, Will --- You are fun to read, too.

Will you marry?



Me.

Nice try, Michael.
Michael,

I think this drivel is known as "Wet Pants Wishful Thinking".

Your ideology is bankrupt. Your ideas are corrupt. Your leaders are worthless.

And you're a sniveling little mouthpiece for anyone who lines your pockets.

I'm so glad you and your kind lost, Michael.

Get used to saying President Barack Hussein Obama and to seeing his image EVERYWHERE for the next eight years.

And start showing the POTUS the RESPECT he's earned!

I hope you're exceedingly miserable for the next eight years. That will prove how well our new president is doing.
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