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Wednesday, March 26, 2008
Michael Medved :: Townhall.com Columnist
Resolving the Contradictions in the National Mood
by Michael Medved
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In the midst of this furiously competitive electoral season, public attitudes perplex prognosticators with their glaring and irrational contradictions. The only sure bet seems to be that the inauguration of a new president will help to resolve those contradictions and, regardless or his (or – gulp! – her) identity, will most likely move the mood in a more optimistic direction.

“Change” is the most important single word in the presidential campaign at the same time that most people like their lives just as they are. Whenever ordinary Americans get the chance to register their opinions, they say they feel pleased about their private lives, but report a sense of unease and frustration concerning the nation at large. Though presidential elections theoretically inspire “hope” (another big word along the campaign trail) with the possibility of fresh leadership, the unique circumstances of this particular campaign cycle serve to intensify the gap between personal contentment and public pessimism.

At the beginning of the year, the Gallup Poll (with responses gathered between December 6 and 9, 2007) showed that Americans remain a remarkably happy and satisfied people. A stunning 92% reported themselves “very happy” or “fairly happy,” while a mere 6% claimed the label “not too happy.” Moreover, by a ratio of exactly six to one, respondents said they are satisfied with their personal lives as opposed to dissatisfied (84% to 14%). Surprisingly, the percentage who reported the highest level of contentment (“very satisfied”) with their private situations actually soared between December 2006 and December 2007 – from 55% to 59%. Despite the widespread, nearly universal assumption that the nation faces a moment of hardship, insecurity and danger, the personal satisfaction level remains distinctly above the already high average recorded over the 29 years Gallup’s been asking the same questions in the poll.

Nevertheless, the same survey that shows a singularly sunny view of our intimate arrangements indicates a vastly more negative attitude toward the general situation in society: only 27% of Americans report they are “very satisfied” or even “somewhat satisfied” with the way things are going in the United States at large. As the Gallup organization reports, there is “a vivid contrast between Americans’ view of things ‘out there’ across the country and their view of their own personal lives.” By the same token, there’s a startling contrast according to the most recent polling between assessments of the current economic situation (where three-fourths say the economy is “bad”) and the expectations by the same respondents of the likely conditions a year from today (where two thirds expect things to be “good.”)

As Stephen J. Rose and Anne Kim summarized current public sentiment in yesterday’s Wall Street Journal: “Most people think the economy is in poor shape and worry about potential misfortune. But this sour mood and their worries are tempered by a strong appraisal of their own financial situation and a low evaluation of personal risk. For example, only 15% think that it is at least somewhat likely that they could be laid off next year. Even in the most recent polls, over two-thirds of Americans describe the financial situation and standard of living as either good or excellent.” (March 25, 2008)

If a famous self-help book by Dr. Thomas Harris once proclaimed, “I’m OK, You’re OK” the current attitude seems to suggest “I’m OK, but You’re in Deep Trouble.” Increasingly, we tend to see ourselves as tiny islands of sanity and satisfaction in the midst of vast, raging seas of misery and trouble. But the very prevalence of happy families (yes, married people report sharply higher levels of happiness than singles) and religiously committed households (with recent studies documenting the much greater likelihood of satisfaction) indicates that those of us who feel blessed and fortunate hardly count as isolated. We are, in fact, the rule rather than the exception.

How, then, can we explain the gloomy public mood in a nation that’s actually filled with cheerful, optimistic individuals?

Two related forces—media and politics-- work powerfully to persuade people that the rest of the country is worse off than their private realities would suggest. Television naturally focuses on dramatic horrors – wars, crimes, natural disasters, economic threats, corruption of all sorts, and other disturbing (and usually riveting) subjects. The daily emphasis on dysfunction and danger encourages the public to exaggerate every problem, no matter how unusual or unrepresentative it may be. “Man Bites Dog” becomes big news, but “Man Pets Dog” will never get headlines or ratings.

Politicians naturally revel in the fact that the news business has actually become the bad news business. Negative coverage about our current situation allows office seekers and office holders to justify sweeping new government programs. A “crisis of the month” mentality helps persuade the public not only of the need for bureaucratic solutions, but serves to convince the bureaucrats and politicos themselves that they are personally needed. In order to mobilize supporters and persuade fence sitters, candidates for office love to insist that the nation faces unprecedented difficulties and unparalleled incompetence from the other side. In Presidential elections in particular, challengers regularly proclaim that “this is the most important campaign in American history” and that we face “the worst economy” (or worst foreign threat, or worst moral collapse, or worst immigrant invasion —you fill in the blanks) in “fifty (or a hundred, or two hundred) years.”

While candidates often succeed with such hysterical appeals, in most cases the public will hear countervailing voices to the gloom-and-doom pronouncements. In every presidential election since 1952, either the president himself or his vice president (and chosen successor) has been a major party nominee for the White House. Of course, the opposition party makes a run for the top job by lambasting “the mess in Washington,” but the incumbent party usually answers back that despite demagogic denunciations, the situation isn’t actually all that bad. Successful presidents successfully defend the status quo and thereby win the election, as did Dwight Eisenhower in ’56, LBJ in ’64, Richard Nixon in ’72, Ronald Reagan in ’84, Bill Clinton in ’96 and George W. Bush in 2004. Other Presidents try to stick up for their records and the direction that they’ve led the country, but find themselves rejected by voters – as were Gerald Ford in 1976, Jimmy Carter in 1980 and George H.W. Bush in ’92. Finally, there’s the situation of Vice Presidents who seek to celebrate and extend the administration’s leadership, and hope to continue that leadership in successor presidencies. Some of these would-be heirs succeed in winning the White House for themselves (like the first President Bush in 1992) while many more fail (such as Richard Nixon in 1960, Hubert Humphrey in 1968, and Al Gore in 2000).

In other words in the last 13 Presidential elections in a row, there’s been an “administration candidate” to stand up proudly and publicly against the opposition party’s claims that the national situation is dire and desperate. Even when these defenders of things-as-they-are fail at the ballot box, they still serve to balance the public discourse and to place complaints and self-pity in a more reasonable context.

This time, however, President Bush can’t run for re-election (he’s prohibited by the Constitution, of course) and the aging, ailing Vice President Cheney chose (wisely) not to become a candidate. As a result, even the top Republican contenders promote change and say little or nothing to defend the record of an incumbent GOP administration. It’s not just that George W. Bush is controversial: he actually draws a much higher approval rating than the Democratic leaders of Congress. Even if the incumbent were conspicuously popular, however, those who ran to replace him would want to differentiate their candidacies from the lame-duck administration in which they had no prominent role. It’s easier and more energizing for a candidate to sketch his bold, sunlit new visions for the nation, rather than rationalizing all the shadowy policy twists and turns of the immediate past and justifying all the up and down occurrences under his predecessor.

Without a sitting chief executive or a loyal Veep as a candidate, no one’s forced to stand up for the current situation, or explain recent decisions, or remind voters that we’re actually doing relatively well, all things considered. Instead, all presidential contenders, Republican as well as Democrat, bid for support by demanding “change” and denouncing things as they are. In prior campaigns, there’s been an administration candidate to argue for staying the course, but not this time.

Obama and Clinton try to defame McCain by claiming he’d provide a “third term for Bush,” but the Republican standard bearer wisely refuses to accept that designation. He’s differed with enough Bush policies (especially regarding run-away government spending and the early mismanagement of the war) to run credibly as a candidate of conservative change. Those who support the Bush administration (more than one third the electorate, remember) will back McCain anyway, so avoiding the enthusiastic embrace of the administration costs him nothing while giving him a better chance to appeal to independents and wavering Democrats. It’s not that the status quo is indefensible, in other words, but just that there’s no presidential contender who’d gain by defending it.

In this situation, feverish alarmists inevitably drown out the voices of reassurance, and the public feels persuaded of a prevailing state of crisis and desperation. It becomes fashionable, in other words, and all but inevitable, for citizens to view our national condition in grim and frightening terms, at the same time that they speak to friends and family (and even to pollsters) of their manifold reasons for private satisfaction gratitude and optimism.

A new administration – even a new McCain administration – is likely to confirm that optimism when the press provides the breathless, admiring “honeymoon” coverage they usually provide any new president (yes, even Republicans). Since the national mood reflects media coverage and political maneuvering more than it responds to actual conditions for real American families, it’s safe to assume that attitudes toward the state of the nation will inevitably improve by the beginning of 2009.

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Anyone but Obama

On my drive home tonight I listened to the darkside again(Air America). A reporter(Spencer Akerman) was on that wrote a piece on the Obama's Doctrine. This would be Obama's foreign policy.
First off Obama believes theirs too much disparity between the poor and the rich in the world. This is what causes all the hate and resentment. So Obama going to go about fixing the world problems. This would include taking from the rich and giving to the poor. I think this is called Marxist socialism.
All you working class blue collar people who think this might be a good idea. Keep in mind he will want all your taxes for the rest of the world. America's too rich. But you probably won't have to worry about that because you'll no longer have jobs. Those rich bourgeois capitalist pigs will just fold their companies. Sounds like I've heard this plan before. Fidel Castro. That's working real good.


lula may
Do you just write one crappy post and then just keep posting it? Don't forget to come back tomorrow and post it again.

Right Track vs Wrong Track
This polling is often interpreted as wanting a different party in power. I often wonder if it also reflects culture war concerms. ie, a lot of Pro Lifers will say we are on the wrong track as long as abortion is legal.

don Juan Senile McBush
is intent upon destroying the country.

Israel is a parasite, that will destroy our country if we let it.

A financial storm is coming, and probably can't be avoided. That "probably" is a certainty if McBush is put in the center seat.

We are all going to die
Assuming that this assessment of a mood of contradiction is correct then in relation to the election it sounds very much like a vote in favour of 'None of the Above.' It is as if the Nation has developed a sense of an impending and unnamed doom and have not found a leader who they have confidence will prevent that doom. Despite all the candidate spin and ballyhoo perhaps even the cheerleaders have failed to convince themselves.We seem like a people who no longer have a sense of mission, like redundant workers whose purpose is gone but we are not unhappy, just confused about what to do next. At this point some will suggest God is the answer and will produce a quote from a Bible that we now have overwhelming proof has been doctored by the early church fathers to fit their version of doctrine. I think that what we are lacking is a sense of community. We should put a hammer through every television in the country and get out and meet people. It is contact with others that reinforces our sense of security and we just need to meet neighbours and make more good friends because it is by conversation and debate and interaction, by taking part that we develop a sense of National purpose and of the value of ourselves and others and I would suggest that the reason why organised religion works is not because of any divine effect but because it brings people together and if they would stop pontificating about doctrine and just concentrate on goodness and harmony in the community then we would regain our sense of what life is for.

McCain vs Hillary not much of a choice
There would be somewhat of a choice between them if it's McCain vs Obama. Voting for Ron Paul did make me happy February 5th. I will look forward to writing him in for President in November if he isn't on the ballot somewhere. Compromising on principle isn't any way to vote & mine would be compromised voting for any of the remaining candidates. We need an intelligent President who will put this country's interests first & ahead of keeping wars going indefinately. End 'status quo' before it ends whatever is left of America! If there is oil under Iraq, there ought to also be oil under the USA. How about we start using that oil & leave Iraq & other Mid-East countries alone? There shouldn't be anything over there to need badly enough to send our troops to die over.

Seeing is not believing
How many times have we had things explained to us because if we see or hear it ourselves, it's own senses that decieves us. Thats the story line they give us. Why must we be told after seeing or hearing the news what is actually happening. If the media likes the President, the economy is doing great. The media loved Bill Clinton so the economy was doing great. The media hates President Bush, so the war in Iraq was a mistake and the economy is doing bad. It doesn't matter what the people feel or think. The media on both sides are going to travel down their own road and if you don't agree with them, they could care less. Get on the bandwagon or be left out of getting your word out. How many times have we seen and read columns saying actually the same thing, but with a different spin. In order for their columns to get printed, they too had to jump on the bandwagon regardless how they feel about the topic. It's not only the people who have the negative, when they should be thinking in the positive. It's the media who constantly feed the negative to get the negative response, especially about the economy. The mood of the nation is always influenced by those who control the media.

I Am Unhappy -- No You Are Not
Since no one asked me whether I was happy, I'd say that the polling results were flawed. Asking my neighbor isn't the same as asking me. I would have told the poll persons it was none of their business. But I guess that wouldn't be the desired response and the poller would go to the next person so that the results of the poll would be "accurate." Polls are for politicians, writers, and pundits. What percentage of politician's promises are done to completion? Either of the Bushes claim to fix Social Security? McShame will not be a third Bush? Wanna bet? McShame is on the membership list of the Council On Foreign Relations which means open borders, siding with world courts and world opinions, "free" trade, let the Federal Reserve rule, open house on credit givers, will be open to new wars if it infringes on his vanity and particularly to keep the oil flowing, be steamrollered by the oil environmentalists, etc.

folks
"In this situation, feverish alarmists inevitably drown out the voices of reassurance....all but inevitable, for citizens to view our national condition in grim and frightening terms, at the same time that they speak to friends and family (and even to pollsters) of their manifold reasons for private satisfaction gratitude and optimism. "

We are fighting wars in both Iraq and Afghanistan
Fuel is well over 3 dollars US
The dollar is collapsing and US debt is soaring
after loosing real income for how many years now ..
alarmist??? I don't think so

Yawn
Being retired, having raised a family, worked for over 40 years, I have heard it "all" through the years. Being the "silly season" of a presidential campaign, the "all" is coming in high and stinky. Life is a series of cycles involving the weather, the economy, tragedy, misfortune, and history. In other words, I've seen them (it) come and I have seen it go.

As long as we have the freedom and individuality that made this country great and prosperous, we will prevail. Don't lose your nerve, folks.

We're all gonna die ... Oh no ...

When in trouble,
when in doubt,
run in cirles,
scream and shout...

I like loco1936's comment calling this the "silly season". That pretty much sums
everthing up.

loco1936
"...As long as we have the freedom and individuality that made this country great and prosperous, we will prevail. Don't lose your nerve, folks. "

Hey we agree! That is exactly why the American people are driving a stake in the darkened heart of fundamentalist conservatism

I feel great!
I have solved my problem of who to vote for and it isn't McCain.

????
As a presidential candidate, Obama's speech misses the mark and by that measure proves he is a man whose depth is too shallow to be president. He is obviously captured in the socio/political black bigotry of Black Nationalism exemplified by Wright that seeks crutches and excuses while condemning America.

I wonder why is it that the best the Democrats can do is put up Obama and Clinton as the Democrats standard barrier? That action places the country at risk considering the possibility that either could be elected.

I like Obama
He is an honorable man according to McCain and I agree.

Otis
"..I wonder why is it that the best the Democrats can do is put up Obama and Clinton as the Democrats standard barrier? That action places the country at risk considering the possibility that either could be elected."

Both are more than qualified and neither could ever damage the country as much as GW the torturer has done even if they tried..

This is so true
"Both are more than qualified and neither could ever damage the country as much as GW the torturer has done even if they tried."

It's the conservatives fault.
Michael; It's our fault (the conservatives) that we are in this position. I'm dating myself, but I remember in the late 40's, when Henry Wallace tried to run for the pres. I don't remember what state he was in, maybe Texas, or even Iowa, when he got up to speak, the people of that state started pelting him with eggs, and singing "we don't want him, you can have him, he's too red for me" that was the end of his run. Today, we allow the most awful things said and done and we don't do anything about it. In a word, we allow it. Even the most treacherous words and deeds we allow it.

Candidates
in both parties represent the lowest-common-denomenator of their group.
None of the Above would win this contest by a landslide if it was an option.
Entrenchment has set in and no longer is the voice of The Poeple important to the leadership. The Poeple are just a source of income that doesn't have to be answered to except just before an election.
With our short attention spans and the screaming media we've created our current situation.

Right Track Wrong Track Meaningless
"Is the country on the right track?" is a meaningless question. It just gives the media a reason to interject opinion into news. It's manufactured news, plain and simple.

If we ask why people think the country is on the wrong track, that can tell us something. For example. I've often thought the Iraq war was on the wrong track, but that doesn't mean I think we should withdrawal. The Iraq war was on the wrong track because we weren't really pursuing victory.

Resolving the contradictions in Medved.
"It's not that the status quo is indefensible...it's just that there's no presidential contender who'd gain by defending it".

Huh.

What about John McCain? He certainly seems to be defending the administration on the surge, and on the desirability to bring about democracies in muslim lands.

Last time I checked, Bush administration policies represented the status quo.

Which reminds me. I will only support bringing democracy to muslim lands if the dresscode for the fairer sex is revised.

Mini-skirted burkas.

McCain's ties to MOB
It would seems McCain's fortunes had alot to do with Mob.

http://www.rense.com/general81/mccin.htm

HalD on qualifications
Hal Donahue writes: Wednesday, March, 26, 2008 9:06 AM
"Both are more than qualified and neither could ever damage the country as much as GW the torturer has done even if they tried.."

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So your answer to the problem is to elect more boobs? Oh no, wait. The middle-class...err.... RICH aren't paying their fair share of taxes!

It's another season of the lesser of evils and as said as McCain profiles, he's far better than your idiots; which, I admit, isn't saying too much.

Hey Beastie "MENSA BOY" Boy
You still haven't answered my question. For the eighth time, are you anti-religion in general, or are you just anti-Christian?

I still don't understand how a three degreed, ex-MENSA member (He left because he was bored) can't seem to grasp the question.

UPDATE!!!

Beastie laments: "Israel is a parasite, that will destroy our country if we let it."

We're making progress. Beastie is anti-Semitic, also. Maybe we'll narrow this down without cowardly Beastie's help.

I amend my question:

Beastie, you still haven't answered my question. For the ninth time, are you anti-religion in general, or are you just anti-Christian and anti-Jew in particular?

Better Than the last Column

But then that's not saying much; Michael's last column was a pin-headed partisan hatchet job on Barak Obama's important, maybe even historic speech.

In contrast here he offers statistics and analysis, and they seem pretty solid (to me anyway) to back up his claim that Americans view the big picture for the country with gloom, and their own personal situations with at least a little more optimism.

But I have some doubts about his explanation that this is happening because there is no incumbent saying how great the status quo is in this election; I think alot of people felt the same way in 2004 when Bush WAS that status quo cheerleader (ahh, would that he had stayed on that career path...).

I think that optimism and confidence are part of the American psyche, and I think that most of us have more confidence in our own abilities to overcome our own personal hardships and challenges than we do in the Nation's abilities to deal with it's problems.

I know this contradicts the typical TH reader's view of Liberals like myself (we're supposed to rely on the government to wipe our noses), but the fact is I work two jobs now, and if I have to I'll work more. But when I look at some of the stupid things our country does, I can't help but be a little gloomier about the big picture. You all may think different things to be the stupid ones, but the gloom works out the same way.

Freedomknight
Could you provide a source for your assertion of "overwhelming proof" that "the Bible was doctored by the early church fathers"?

Is it the standard "Emperor Constantine made the church accept the current Scriptural canon and doctrine at the Council of Nicaea," or exclusion of the fanciful later "Gospels" (e.g. of Peter, Mary), or something else?

There is much evidence of the integrity of the current Biblical text. See, e.g., Lee Strobel's "The Case for Christ" (especially the interview with Bruce Metzger).

Dissatisfaction
A war of world-views has been raging in America since at least the 1960s, between what I call the "leftist/secular progressives" and the "traditionalist/Christians." Neither side is satisfied with the current state of the country:

(1) The leftist/secular progressives think that America is imperialistic, racist, and sexist, pro-rich and anti-poor, ruled by a cabal of evil corporations and lunatic religious leaders, and oppressive toward homosexuals. They have a fundamentally negative view of America and its history, in which they see themselves as saving America from the enormous errors and injustices of the traditionalist/Christian past. They are dissatisfied with the pace of change which has been slow, or even negative, for them during the past 25 years.

(2) The traditionalist/Christians think that America is the secular hope of the world, the liberator of the oppressed, and the land of opportunity for all races and both sexes. They have a very positive view of pre-1960s America, and see themselves as defenders of truth, justice and the American way, which they perceive as under attack by the liberal/secular progressives. They acknowledge past injustices, but see these as largely overcome, and therefore as sources of pride, not shame (e.g. slavery). They are dissatisfied because of leftist/secular progressive inroads, particularly in the 1960s, particularly expressed in the growth of the welfare state, intrusive government regulation, the decline in traditional morality, increase in crime, promotion of sexual conduct that they view as immoral, and reverse discrimination.

[Continued below]

Dissatisfaction II
Both sides are dissatisfied with President Bush and the Democratic Congress. Hence the abysmal approval ratings of both.

In the bipartisan 2008 Battleground Poll, 19% identified themselves as "Very Conservative," 39% as "Somewhat Conservative," 27% as "Somewhat Liberal," and 9% as "Very Liberal."

Only 3% called themselves "Moderate."

Hal Donahue
Real income has not been falling for years. In real (inflation-adjusted) terms, the average hourly earnings of production and nonsupervisory workers increased 5.7% during the Bush administration (from 2000 to 2007). For all wage and salary earnings, real weekly earnings increased 2.7% over the same period. Hours were down somewhat.

There was an increase at all income levels reported (10th, 25th, 75th, and 90th).

Real income and earnings increased even more during the Clinton administration.

The idea that Americans are working harder for less is false. On average, Americans are working less hard, and yet earning higher income.

The above figures are for pre-tax earnings. The Bush tax cuts resulted in much larger increases in after-tax income for most Americans.

American workers enjoy a level of earnings and standard of living that are historically unprecedented.

If you want to see backup and additional information, I have posted additional details at http://comments.realclearpolitics.com/read/1/39763.html.


Medved on "Gloom and Doom"
I have been convinced for some time that the media and the Democrats are shoving us into a largely "hysterical recession". There was a poll about a year ago in which around 20 percent of those polled believed that we were already in an actual recession.
Try this test: Ask your friends and colleagues if they actually know anyone who has lost either their job or house. Betcha nobody.

Phylo Se Fiser
The national debt is not nearly the crisis that you suggest. As of the end of FY 2007, over half of the debt was inter-governmental. What I call the "Net Public Debt" (or NPD) was $4.26 trillion, compared to a Gross Federal Debt (or GFD) of $8.95 trillion. The difference is inter-governmental obligations and federal debt held by the Federal Reserve System.

The NPD is currently (2007) 31.1% of GDP, down from 44.4% in 1993, 43.6% in 1957 (50 years ago), and peaked at 97.9% in 1946. There has been a slight recent upward trend, but no cause for panic.

The GFD is currently (2007) 65.5% of GDP, down from 67.3% in 1996, up slightly from 60.5% in 1957 (50 years ago), and down from its 1946 peak of 121.7%.

I've posted additional details, explanation, and sources at http://comments.realclearpolitics. com/read/1/39763.html. You can also see a table of GFD and NFD, as a percent of GDP, at that page.

I wish that I could post the graphs, which dramatically show the lack of a serious debt problem at present.





Correction
Sorry about the poor grammar in the second paragraph above. It should say "a peak of" rather than "peaked at."

GG-AZ
Thaty's OK, a "Peak of" gets me to the mountain top faster. Which would be even more fun if you could provide the sled to get down on.

How do your numbers relate to the deficits run by the government in the general fund over the last eight years - including Bush's 09 budget? Heritage provided the number of $4.2 trillion, which did not include the $150 billion stimulus, nor the additional not yet funded parts of the Iraqi war. They state that Bush has almost doubled the national debt. And what about the unfunded liabilities of the entitlements?

Redlac
My central point is that the current size of the national debt is not unusual by post-WWII standards. This is undoubtedly true.

The general fund deficits during the Bush administration, through the end of FY 2007 (i.e. 9-30-07), are reflected in the "Gross Federal Debt" figure that I discuss above.

I did not address the FY 2008 and 2009 budgets, nor did I address the stimulus package or ongoing war costs, because these items remain speculative. I used only historic figures.

I share your concern about the FY 2008 and 2009 projected deficits. The Iraq war isn't the major problem. The major problem is runaway entitlement spending.

Both President Bush and the Congressional Republicans did an abysmal job with respect to government spending from 2001 to 2006. Things got worse with the Democratic Congress, and will get worse again if the Democrats prevail in the election this fall.

I also hate it when my electoral choice is between a bad Republican and a worse Democrat.

Redlac cont'd
Re the unfunded liabilities of the entitlements: part of this actually is "funded," as reflected in the Gross Federal Debt figure, which includes the Social Security and Medicare trust funds. These are in the trillions, though nowhere near full funding.

I've done an analysis of Social Security, and it can easily be put on a sound, sustainable financial footing with modest benefit cuts, a slight tax increase, and minor increases in the retirement age, all of which could be phased in over a 10 or 20 year period.

I don't have a solution to the bigger problem, which is government-funded health care -- Medicare/Medicaid/S-CHIP. I don't have a problem with increasing health costs in general, for two reasons:

(1) It makes sense that as people grow wealthier, they'll spend proportionally more on health care.

(2) Medical care is vastly improved today. Many conditions that used to be untreatable, or poorly treatable, can now be cured, and even when no cure is possible, new treatments can greatly extend life and improve quality of life. These improvements are expensive, but worth it.

The underlying problem with government health care costs is the entitlement mentality. It appears that most Americans believe that people have a "right" to health care, whether they pay for it or not, and that government must provide it. If this attitude persists, I see no way to cut government health care spending except by further price controls (which will be counterproductive) or by rationing care. Neither is a pleasant prospect.

loco1936
I agree. The world as I Knew It has ended at least half a dozen times since i was old enough to know the difference between Ike and Adlai, and I am still here, doing as well as can be expected and trusting in God and the brains and ambition He gave me to get through whatever comes next.

I also agree that asking if we are on the "right track" or "wrong track" is a useless query unless it is followed up with "What do you think we should be doing instead?" Wrong Track in Afghanistan = blow a few Major City Sized craters in likely places where they will get the attention of the Qaddafi Wannabees and garner the same result. (Like the Russians, the Afghan "terrorists" will crumble when met with a snarl and a big stick.) But the answer to that question is always assumed to be CUT AND RUN!

AudiR10
It's cut and run because the same useless idiots that forced us to cut and run in Vietnam are now running the show.

And, yeah, we better be trusting in God because
with the three stooges running for President it's going to be a roller coaster ride whoever
wins the election. The only thing I agree with McCain on is not cutting and running, and keeping pressure on our enemies.

What Worries is Congress
What worries me is congress not the economy.It doesn't matter about the next Pres. because he can ,maybe she, be controlled. The Supreme Court
must stop trying to make laws and just interpret
the constitution.
I will be allright because I don't depend on handouts from the gov. I still know how to grow my on food or at least kill it. I still know how to fish and clean and eat them.
What I want the gov. to do is live within it's own means. Less gov. the more we have, unless you are a leach you want less gov. What worries me is the U.S. becoming Marxist.The U.S. must stay indenpendent of the U.N.

earnhart
The next President matters for 2 reasons:

(1) If the Democrats hold the House and Senate, as appears very likely, it is essential to have a Republican Presidential veto.

(2) If you want a conservative Supreme Court, it is essential to have a Republican President. I know, Sen. McCain may or not be reliable on this issue, but either Democrat will be an absolute disaster, appointing the most liberal possible justices.

Otis asked
"I wonder why is it that the best the Democrats can do is put up Obama and Clinton as the Democrats standard barrier?"

Gee, Otis, how is it that you voted for Bush - twice?

GG-AZ wrote
"They (conservatives)have a very positive view of pre-1960s America"

This is why many Democrats think that conservartives are naive and live in a ormanticized, imagined past.

I grew up in pre-1960s America. There is a huge difference between the one that we thought was happening at the time, because so much of our culture was not talked about or recognized, and the one that really existed, behind the mythological Doris Day pictures of middle class life and the Norma Rockwell idealizations.

Pre 1960s America was racist, anti-semitic, naive, and to a large extent bigoted about anybody who spoke up about anything controversial. Pre 1960s America got people blackballed from their careers because of their pre-21 year politics, refused to grant women equal pay and considered them at fault if they were raped, beaten up, or abused, and didn't believe that children who were being abused should have a voice because they refused to believe such things could happen.

Yes, we felt protected, sheltered, patriotic, safe - partially because we had reason to but also because we bought into a sentimental notion about what we were like as a society.

HOLD THE PRESSES

.....I saw a good movie ...good screenplay, good direction and excellent acting ...

.....This is a rarity by itself these days but it was topical too ...

.....The name of the movie is "Something New" and it was about a very successful professional black woman who gets drawn reluctantly into a relaionship with a white man ...

.....She spends most of their time together complaining how tough it is for a black woman to make it in the white bussiness world ...finally he gets fed up and says, "Look, you are a graduate of Stanford, a partner in a successful Law firm, you are in the upper 2% in income and own a beautiful home in an exclusive neighborhood, what are you complaining about? Why does it always have to be about race? Why can't it just be you and me. I want a night off." ...She says, "Black people don't get a night off". ...

.....I won't spoil the ending in case anyone wants to rent the movie ...it wasn't a big box office hit, probably because of its racial content but it was the best movie I have seen in years .....COLOSSUS

deathstar
You would be one of the leftist/secular progressives.

The traditionalist/Christians believe that crime rates were low, illegitimacy low, marriage the norm, divorce rates low, taxes much lower than today, and there was much more freedom from intrusive government. They view America as the great liberator, especially with respect to WWII.

Rather than focus on the negatives, the traditionalist/Christians focus on the tremendous progress made by ending slavery, improving women's rights (including the right to vote), and civil rights for minorities.

As I said, the issue is different worldviews.

deathstar
By the way, President Kennedy didn't think that pre-1960s America was such a terrible place. To the contrary, he thought it was the best hope on earth. From his inaugural address:

"Vice President Johnson, Mr. Speaker, Mr. Chief Justice, President Eisenhower, Vice President Nixon, President Truman, reverend clergy, fellow citizens, we observe today not a victory of party, but a celebration of freedom—symbolizing an end, as well as a beginning—signifying renewal, as well as change. For I have sworn before you and Almighty God the same solemn oath our forebears prescribed nearly a century and three quarters ago.
The world is very different now. For man holds in his mortal hands the power to abolish all forms of human poverty and all forms of human life. And yet the same revolutionary beliefs for which our forebears fought are still at issue around the globe—the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of God.
We dare not forget today that we are the heirs of that first revolution. Let the word go forth from this time and place, to friend and foe alike, that the torch has been passed to a new generation of Americans—born in this century, tempered by war, disciplined by a hard and bitter peace, proud of our ancient heritage—and unwilling to witness or permit the slow undoing of those human rights to which this Nation has always been committed, and to which we are committed today at home and around the world."

medved confused again
Medved finds a paradox in people reporting they are happier while thinking the world around is getting tougher. Far from surprising, there is plenty of evidence that happiness is largely relative. When one sees that many Americas are finding things more and more difficult, the average person can find more comfort in their own situation. They say the grass is always greener on the other side, but not if your neighbor's lawn in on fire.

My take on this
If one spends his/her life reading posts on TH and listening to the nasties on talk radio you will have a very different opinion than if you take the general population who doesn't look to this day' real or perceived scandal, blow it up, and make it look like the world is coming to an end.

I read a lot; occasionally I read something that
could be construed as political, but usually not.
I have a good idea of where I want the US to be
and I have a very real knowledge that it isn't
anywhere close to that. And that since the Bush
administration it has gotten farther and farther
away, so that our very worst tendencies are right
there up front and running the show.

What I find more incongruous than anything else
is that those who claim that they want to
maintain or retain a Christian nation, and blame
the liberals for everything that is wrong in the
nation, particularly on the moral level, will then turning around and call illegal immigrants
lazy and shiftless and scream theft when asked
to help people, through our government, when they
need help.

I want a nation that cares about its citizens.
I don't care if we are or are not the richest,
the strongest, the baddest nation in the world,
I want us to care about our fellow man, particularly our neighbor. And care enough to
make every effort to do something about it.



Viruddh
A terrific post. You restore the faith in human instincts that I was rapidly losing on TH.

GG-AZ
I'm not contending that any point in American history was all negative or all positive - actually, that's the point I'm trying to make.

I think we make a mistake when we romanticize about any period in history, whether it's colonial times, the industrial revolution or post-war America.

Much of what I learned about the 50s were things I didn't see as a kid but heard later from my parents or people who had been adults at the time, and protected children from reality as much as possible. The current of reality that ran beneath the facade of picturesque 50s Wally and Beaver middle class life was not the greeting card that people like Medved like to pretend. Of course, it wasn't all bad, especially if you were white, protestant, not poor, not Jewish or even Catholic. If you liked being treated as though you were retarded it was even fine for women.

I am wondering as I write this if every society in every moment of history doesn't create a picture of itself that has more to do with faith than reality - we certainly create our own myths about who we are - not all of them bad, or good, but certainly not all true either. We certainly create myths about our collective past. This just occurred to me in this particular way, so I'm not prepared to defend it, but I think it may be true.

deathstar
You make good points, although I don't think that I'd use the word "myths," which implies (to me) stories not based in fact. I think that it might be closer to say that we create a "national story" about our past, and there can be competing, contradictory "national stories." Different people or groups can look at the same historical facts and fit them into very different stories, with very different perspectives.

I think that the "leftist/secular progressives" and the "traditionalist/Christians" discussed in my earlier two posts are divided by very different "national stories." I'm very curious as to why different people -- often with very similar upbringing and education -- end up accepting (to a greater or lesser degree) one or the other of these viewpoints and stories.

viruddh
Well, that's the leftist/liberal viewpoint.

Here's a brief, partial Christian conservative response:

(1) Liberals are not responsible for everything morally wrong in America, but they are responsible for more than their share. Crime rates are up, thanks in part to liberal judges handcuffing the police. Illegitimacy is up, thanks in part to liberal welfare policies and child support laws. Divorce is up, thanks in part to no-fault divorce laws. And don't even get me started about the immorality that's being taught in the liberal-dominated public schools.

Moreover, liberals are vocal critics of traditional morality, so when things get worse, the conservative impression is that they're getting what they want.

(2) On economic issues, I understand your desire to help the poor, but your policies would put us even further down a slippery slope toward economic stagnation.

This is very simple: if you subsidize something, you get more of it. If you tax something, you get less of it. If you tax the productive in order to subsidize the (generally not working) poor, you will get less production and more poverty. This is not a good idea.

There is also a difference between the "deserving" and "undeserving" poor, which liberals refuse to recognize. Indeed, they attack anyone who makes this point as "blaming the victim." The fact is that many of the poor are in that position due to bad personal decisions that they have made -- dropping out of school, having a child out of wedlock, engaging in crime, drug or alcohol problems.

It is very bad public policy to subsidize the "undeserving" poor. Further, even if government were willing to try to make the distinction between "deserving" and "undeserving" welfare recipients, the government would probably do a bad job in making such a determination.

viruddh cont'd
(3) Conservatives believe that economic growth is the best way to help the poor. It has worked wonders in the past.

In fact, the poverty rate fell throughout the 20th Century until the 1960s -- when the liberal welfare state took hold -- and has been essentially steady at 10-15% for 40 years. Conservatives don't think that this is a coincidence.

(4) On illegal immigration, conservatives like me will acknowledge that many illegal immigrants are hard-working. But we're really in the middle of the first wave of immigration (legal and illegal) after the creation of a significant welfare state (by liberals). Immigrants used to come to America to work hard and get ahead. With generous welfare benefits, there is a serious risk that America will tend to attract immigrants who want to feed at the public trough, rather than make a contribution.

Illegal immigration makes this problem worse, as legal immigrants generally must have a sponsor responsible for supporting them.


GG-AZ
Your question is really a good one, and important. I suspect there are many reasons why people tell themselves different stories about who they are, or about their past, but, while I'd really like to think about it, I can't answer it off the cuff.

I'm thinking about my father, who was very Republican - he disliked Roosevelt immensely, and held fast to the pragmatic (fact? myth?) that anybody in 1950s America, black, white, handicapped, male, female, etc. could succeed to any level. He believed that there was no excuse for poverty except personal failure of character. He actually believed that was why African Americans tended to be poor then, and he believed that the only people who were interested in integrating the schools were communist radical operatives. (interesting, since his father was a Debsian Socialist).

How did I deviate from this to such an extent? I turned 18, went to school, travelled, and saw that the notions that he had instilled in me just didn't hold up.

In defense of my father, though, I have to say that he was never a social conservative - the death of a close relative from an illegal abortion had made him extremely pro-choice, for example. He wasn't fundamentally religious, and was intellectually curious. As he grew older, and as his children repeatedly challenged many of his ideas, he began to change - he voted for Peterson in the 70s and then voted Democrat thereafter. He said that his view of society and history was changed by experience and that of his children. He saw the limitations, real ones, that his daughters faced in the real world, for example. His lofty, idealized ideas about war were dashed when the pictures of Vietnam started appearing on the evening news.

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Part 2
then, of course, there was Nixon.


But the thing that was different then is that people were not so polarized, they were more fluid because opposing views didn't seem to be a threat to their personal identities or integrity.

Anyway, this is just one story, I'm not sure what it reveals, if anything. I have read about studies at Duke University that indicate a difference (hard-wired) in basic personalities that influence the way people see the world; i.e., conservatives like things very ordered and unchanging, for example (that's not meant as an insult) and that that comfort zone affects their political views. who knows?

BTW, I was using the word "myth" in it's classical sense, which is that of "stories". So here's my last idea about the stories we tell ourselves: I have read that the need to understand everything in terms of stories, or narratives, that we create for ourselves happened very early in human evolution - it was a way of making sense, or understanding our environment, our dangers, our successes, our past, and in that sense made the unpredictable less threatening. For example, a story about an ancestor who battled a tiger, tricked him, won, and saved his tribe becomes a story about survival, wit, and self-confidence as a group - it informs the next battle, increasing chances for success.

What do you think about all this?

If you answer, I won't be able to respond until this afternoon.




Life in the Fifties ("Pre-Sixties"?)
I too grew up in the Fifties and did not live in a Father Knows Best Sitcom (and never will believe, as many of you do, that teevee is all TRUE). I have told that story many times before. But the difference between now and then, to me, was that we did not look upon our neighbours with toxic envy and resentment. We were what we were; we had what we had; we did what we did. The only other girl my age in my neighbourhood was the only daughter (of six kids) of a doctor, which meant wealth in those days -- she had lots of things I did not have, and I did not spend all my time whining about it and demanding that she be deprived of those things and give them to me. My sisters and I had a community closet and a community toy chest until we were old enough for working papers and then what we bought belonged to us. We ate what was set before us, we said "Yes ma'am" when Mama told us what to do, and we knew how to sit still and shut up and keep our hands to ourselves, because that is what everybody taught their kids in those days. If Sister gave us detention, Mama gave us an extra helping to make sure the lesson sank in. Yes, our neighbourhood (which was Mob-controlled) had a covenant saying Jews could not live there. And yes, when Daddy bought our place from the estate of someone not a Jew, we got flak. He stood up to them and they backed down. But the main thing was back then that you were what you made of yourself, not what some lawyer and PR flak said you were.

deathstar
I don't know that we'll ever resolve the nature/nurture debate. Personality and outlook seem to be "hardwired" to some extent, but people can change. Experiences can have a tremendous impact on worldview, and yet the same experience can lead different people in entirely different directions. As a religious Christian, I also believe that God and Satan have direct input in the lives and circumstances of all people, though they do not control the outcomes.

I'm a lawyer, and I've been depressed by the research conveyed to me by jury consultants. According to their research, people really don't objectively evaluate facts and situations. Instead, they are inclined toward various explanations ("stories" or "myths"), fit a case into such a story in the first few minutes, and rarely change their minds thereafter.

They don't agree with the lawyer they like. Rather, they like the lawyer they agree with!

I find this depressing because it leaves little room for intelligent, reasoned debate -- which must be one of the "myths" that I really like.

GG-AZ
Your last three paragraphs, particularly, are interesting. I do believe it, and it is depressing for sure, although not that surprising. I think all of us fall victim to creating the story or narrative that best fits our assumptions and prejudices. I read a quotation recently that went

"Tell a man to think for himself and he'll resent you, tell him what to think and he'll be forever grateful".




AudiR10
Definitely not Ozzie and Harriet, but probably not so different from many other homes, same as mine.

What I'm curious about is that the tone of your post seems angry, you don't seem to look back with happiness. It seems you are defending a life that made you a survivor of sorts but didn't make you very happy.

You said, " we knew how to sit still and shut up and keep our hands to ourselves, because that is what everybody taught their kids in those days. If Sister gave us detention, Mama gave us an extra helping to make sure the lesson sank in."

Sounds pretty grim to me.


GG-AZ to Virrudh
"Moreover, liberals are vocal critics of traditional morality, so when things get worse, the conservative impression is that they're getting what they want."

I'm curious, GG, what do you define as "traditional morality" -- when liberals hear conservatives use that phrase they suspect it has something to do with sex...a complicated and many-layered social component.

I consider myself and my children to be very moral, but I taught them never to become moralistic. I taught them to respect themselves and others, and I found that most good things flowed from that, they never broke a law, treated others badly, and never knowlingly hurt anyone , at least physically. They are capable, competent, kind and responsible adults, good husbands and fathers and good citizens. I didn't have to get into the details of behavior, I wanted them to learn how to figure those things out for themselves in a changing and unpredictable culture. They have done extremely well at it. I also talked to them alot about courage, to read everything and not to be afraid of challenges, shocking or unfamiliar ideas, or the unknown.

I'm sure they experimented with sex, probably a little pot or alcohol, were curious about pornography, war, and other dark parts. But by adulthood they made other, more productive decisions for themselves.

I didn't mean for this to sound smug - which I know it does. The point I was trying to make before I got carried away is that morality is alot more than just a list of rules.


Truth Hurts
The Great Patriot, I suspect I hit a raw nerve.

Medved head in the sand as he writes!
Medved, please wake up and smell the coffe! When the head of the OBM reports that this land of America is now in full bankrupt stage with a real debt that of around 60 trillion dollars, what in the hell is that? For God's sake and Country stop lying to the American people and for once tell the truth; if you know what telling the truth means? Yes, it seems like dishonesty is now the way to go; like taking the strongest painkiller a sick man takes to get a good night's rest! Yes, writing this real none-sense in this most honorable and conservative news media! Yes, while Ron Paul gets sneered at by so called conservatives; especiallyk those of my Republican party who truly should know better! Yes, my Republican party is now nothing but pure and simply put: Imperialism of the most abusive and far-reaching ever. The Founding Fathers would beg to go back to their graves were they to rise and see the most inhumane and horrendous war machinery ever, now circling the globe with the so called Commander in Chief putting out threats no less scary than that of the former evil guy that of Germany and the likes! No way, will I ever vote for McCain whose expertize is in, making war and really nothing else. I say: America, wake up, the our is late!

Mixed blessings
The one area I, and most conservatives, found agreement with Ron Paul was the budget. DC is completely out of control and it's going to escalate regardless of who wins in November, in large measure because of entitlements.

Defense is about 4.2 percent of GDP, much lower than in the Kennedy years (9%).

But, the bottom line is that people ultimately vote on a personal level, and Net Disposable Income is up, inflation remains at historically reasonable levels, unemployment is 4.8%, well below the much vaunted average of 5.2% in the 90s.

More people than ever in America enjoy a standard of living that is the envy of the world, and this is the only place where you can start out with next to nothing and, with work and sacrifice, be highly successful.

So, yes, it would be great if we could slash the debt/deficit, but it isn't going to happen.

More immediately, Congress should let the market find it's own bottom and let the retail housing market flush out the over-value in its system.
But, of course, the won't, esp if the Dems win.

What a country.

Phil Mella
ClearCommentary.com

Back in the 60's
at least the bums would ask for "spare" change. Now apparently any change is what the want. Along with all the rest of your money.

Hey, hey lula may
You have got it! Obama's program for change used to be called "communism". He has the same economic policy as Cesar Chavez. Obama/Chavez 08 would be the perfect ticket. Rob the oil companies and "give jobs" to the masses. His wife tell us to avoid "middleclassness" because bourgeois is beyond the vocabulary of the "college educated" morons at her rallies.

deathstar
The traditional morality that I'm talking relates partly to sexual mores, and to other issues as well. Departures from traditional morality is perhaps most noticeable with respect to sexual issues, which is why they are prominent in debate. Here's a quick list:

Self-reliance: All able-bodied adults are responsible for themselves. If you make bad decisions, you take the consequences. You have no right to demand money or services (e.g. health care) from government.

Parental responsibility for children: It takes two parents to raise a child -- not a "village." Parents must provide for the physical needs of a child, as well as for care and education.

Integrity: Tell the truth and keep your word. Don't take what is not yours and don't trick people (except for benevolent purposes like a surprise party!).

Legitimacy: Children should be born within marriage. If conceived out of marriage, the parents should wed, and do their best together.

Marriage: Heterosexual, monogamous marriage in a life-long commitment. Passion and emotion are great, but partnership and commitment are more important. The institution of marriage is the critical protector of the security of women and children.

Masculinity: Men who fulfill their commitments to their wives and children should be respected and honored. Masculinity has been under attack in this country since the 1960s. We need to reaffirm the virtues of manhood.

Sexuality: Sex is ony proper within a heterosexual marriage. The blatant sexuality of the entertainment and advertising industries is a real problem.

Temperance: I think of this chiefly as to alcohol and drug use, but it can apply to other addictive types of behavior such as pornography, gambling, or excessive devotion to sports.

viddh, et al:
Why do you even read TH if you think its conservative trash talk? Do your blood pressure a service an move over to the Daily Kos and the Huffington Post. Liberals want to save the poor by giving them taxpayer money. Conservatives actually help the poor by spending their own money on Charity. You can't deny the facts.

On Schedule for Former Superpower Status
Very interesting piece. I like my life as it is right now very much, pretty close to my own dream of the 'good life', and I'm perfectly capable of getting even closer. I just wonder what happens when we become a 'former superpower.' And then, there's that nuclear terrorist attack that's just around the corner.

I think we're on track to becoming a 'fallen superpower.' That's the big over-riding issue for me. I know Obama is committed to 'fallen superpower' status. Clinton is getting in China's face. McCain is ten times better than Obama, but he's not as adaptable as Clinton. And frankly, she's more 'bad-assed' than McCain. I'd call her an "Adaptive Aggressive", which is what I think we need right now.

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