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Wednesday, March 19, 2008
Michael Medved :: Townhall.com Columnist
Three Big Problems With Barack's Speech
by Michael Medved
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The reactions to Barack Obama’s widely celebrated Philadelphia speech have generally fallen into two categories.

First, and most obviously, we’ve been deluged with rapturous and emotional responses, as sometimes tearful commentators described the address as a life-changing, history-making, barrier-busting, altogether unforgettable experience. To TV producer Norman Lear, “Obama reached for the stars. And he found them.” On MSNBC, Sally Quinn hailed the speech as one of the greatest in all human history, then later retreated to proclaim it merely “the greatest in 45 years.” Andrew Sullivan expressed similar enthusiasm, and delivered the verdict that “this searing, nuanced, gut-wrenching, loyal and deeply, deeply Christian speech is the most honest speech on race in America in my adult lifetime. It is a speech we have all been waiting for for a generation.”

More analytical comments from political insiders evaluated the speech in a practical perspective, admiring Obama’s deft effort to minimize the damage to his candidacy from the widely-condemned, outrageously anti-American comments by his long-time “spiritual mentor,” Pastor Jeremiah Wright. In this regard, the Senator clearly attempted to end the argument by changing the subject – deflecting questions about his twenty-year involvement in a radical Afro-centric church by broadening the discussion to cover four hundred years of race-relations in America. While even the most cynical observers acknowledged the talk’s soaring ambition and lucid prose, they divided on whether it would achieve its principal purpose by closing the book on the Wright controversy and restoring momentum to the Obama campaign.

Both of the common reactions to the Philadelphia speech – either praising it for its emotional and inspirational impact, or analyzing it in terms of its strategic political consequences – fail to come to terms with its substance, or to recognize the more troubling elements in the address. Barack’s big moment features content that is shamelessly manipulative, blatantly misleading, deliberately deceptive and even dishonest.

Misleading Comparisons. At several points in his talk, Obama directly equates the controversy over the Reverend Dr. Wright to the dispute over remarks by Geraldine Ferraro suggesting that the candidate wouldn’t be a leading presidential contender if he were white. After lamenting the fact that “the discussion of race in the campaign has taken a particularly divisive turn,” the Illinois Senator notes that “on one end of the spectrum, we’ve heard the implication that my candidacy is somehow an exercise in affirmative action….On the other end, we’ve heard my former pastor, Reverend Jeremiah Wright, use incendiary language to express views that have the potential…to widen the racial divide….” Later, he pushes the same equation between comments by Ferraro and the unhinged sermons by Wright. “We can dismiss Reverend Wright as a crank or a demagogue, just as some have dismissed Geraldine Ferraro, in the aftermath of her recent statements, as harboring some deep-seated racial bias.”

The comparison between the two firestorms amounts to a slick but unfair attack on Geraldine Ferraro and, by implication, her candidate, Hillary Clinton. No one in either campaign has defended the enraged remarks by Jeremiah Wright (“God d---n America!” or blaming the government for deliberately creating the AIDS virus) as legitimate or worthy of serious debate, but many responsible politicos and pundits agree with Ferraro’s observation that his race played an essential role in Barack’s rise. Moreover, Wright’s comments reflect a long, consistent career of impassioned hostility to the “white power structure” that runs “the U.S. of KKK- A,” while no one had ever before accused the reliably liberal Ferraro of racial animus of any kind.

An even worse comparison involved Barack’s exploitation of his own grandmother (who is still alive) to make a political point. Regarding his on-going relationship with his former pastor, Obama sonorously declares: “I could no more disown him than I can my white grandmother, a woman who helped raise me….but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe.”

This wretched analogy should make all of us cringe: there’s no arguable equivalence between his grandmother’s very private kitchen-table remarks (no matter how insensitive) and the very public and thunderous sermons of a famous clergyman addressing thousands of his congregants and later selling his hateful remarks on DVD. There’s also a world of difference between breaking with a blood relative whose home you occupied as a child, and creating distance with a religious mentor you selected as an adult. No one gets to choose his grandmother, but we do choose our pastors, priests and rabbis. Obama’s selection of Wright as his guide and guru says something profound about his judgment and outlook, while his connection with his grandmother reflects only the accidents of his birth and upbringing.

Distortion of Wright’s Afro-Centric Theology. In his address, Obama many times references the “comments,” “remarks” or “statements of Reverend Wright that have caused such controversy.” He speaks of “the snippets of those sermons that have run in an endless loop on the television and You Tube” as providing the basis for “the caricatures being peddled by some commentators….”

Regarding this claim that revulsion to Wright emerged from a few randomly “cherry-picked” declarations, Pastor Frank Pina, a dynamic church leader who heads a vibrant multi-ethnic congregation in Everett, Washington, sent me an insightful e-mail.

“What I heard coming from Rev. Wright was not just a phrase taken out of context, but a philosophy,” he wrote. “And if you listen to all the different controversial statements, the GD America Sermon (not just a few statements) pretty much sums up the philosophy. And the way the congregation responds lets us know that the philosophy is not just the pastor’s, but the church’s. The point I’m trying to make is that making an inflammatory statement (or two) is not the same as a church’s or pastor’s philosophy. And if Obama didn’t know the pastor’s philosophy after being a member of the church for over 20 years…it speaks to the lack of judgment he has.”

Even the most cursory examination of the character of Wright’s congregation, Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, demonstrates that Reverend Pina’s point is both valid and powerful. The website for the congregation begins with an introductory paragraph under the heading, “About Us,” that unequivocally proclaims: “We are an African people, and remain ‘true to our native land,’ the mother continent, the cradle of civilization.”

For many years, the next paragraph (recently removed due to the Wright controversy) appeared on the website and shamelessly explained explained: “Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System….We believe in the following twelve precepts and covenantal statements. These Black Ethics must be taught and exemplified in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever Blacks are gathered.” Those “precepts and covenantal statements” include, “Commitment to the Black Community” (Number 2), “Disavowal of the Pursuit of ‘Middleclassness’” (Number 8), “Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System (Number 11) and “Personal Commitment to embracement of the Black Value System.” (Number 12).

A simple thought experiment can clarify the questionable nature of the ideology of Jeremiah Wright’s church. Try replacing the word “black” in the material above with the word “white,” and you’d see a perfect definition of the spiritual approach of the “Aryan Nations” or “Christian Identity Movement” or other neo-Nazi fringe groups.

Could the American people truly accept a President who chose long-term affiliation with an organization that says that “Black Ethics…must be taught” and requires “Personal Commitment to embracement of the Black Value System” --- not the American Value System, or the Universal Value System, or, pointedly, even the Christian Value System.

Obama’s church publicly and unapologetically promoted a “Value System” based on racial identity, not common heritage or American patriotism

The additional “10-point Vision” of Revrend Wright (still featured on the church website) specifies “A congregation with a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA.” Nowhere in the “10-point Vision” or the “twelve precepts” or the 25 course offerings for religious education or in any other church materials do the organizers of Trinity mention anything at all about loyalty to the United States of America, or service to the nation that hosts the church, or gratitude to the amazingly benevolent society that has embraced one of the congregation’s members as a leading presidential candidate.

If Joe Lieberman had affiliated for twenty years with a synagogue that never offered prayers for America and its government (as nearly all Orthodox Jewish synagogues do, in fact), but instead emphasized a “non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO ISRAEL,” wouldn’t voters have questioned his outlook and judgment when he ran for Vice President?

In his speech, Obama suggests that his fellow citizens recoiled against Reverend Wright only because they failed to understand that his bitter rage stemmed from centuries of oppression and injustice. “The fact that so many people are surprised to hear that anger in some of Reverend Wright’s sermons simply reminds us of the old truism that the most segregated hour in American life occurs on Sunday morning.”

Does Obama decry, or encourage, that segregation? If he condemns it, then why would he maintain a long-term commitment to a purposefully segregated, race-based congregation that elevates a mystical sense of “blackness” above Christianity, Americanism or common humanity?

Changing the Core Message of His Campaign. In all the ecstatic praise for Obama’s speech, there’s been little comment on the way the talk signals a dramatic, permanent, and possibly fatal alteration of his race for the presidency.

Until today, the Illinois Senator enjoyed spectacular success with his determination to run as the first-ever “post-racial” candidate for the White House.

He refused to allow himself to be pigeon-holed as “the black candidate,” and tirelessly emphasized his desire to unify the nation (“We’re not red states or blue states—we’re the United States of America!”). His campaign succeeded in large part because he implicitly promised to move our society beyond the long and tragic centuries of racial agitation and pain. Yes, he won overwhelming support in the black community, but he also drew huge majorities in states like Iowa, North Dakota, Idaho and Utah, with miniscule populations of African-Americans.

For more than a year, Obama has been offering a weary nation an irresistible deal. As Hoover Institution scholar Shelby Steele observed in his superb book “A Bound Man,” Barack represented the ultimate “bargainer” in a long history of African-American leaders who became popular by suggesting they could reduce white America’s burden of guilt. By generally avoiding discussion of race or race relations, Obama suggested that in supporting his candidacy, Americans could finally escape from the hurts and resentments of the past.

Here’s the deal, he seemed to say: if you elect me, we can at last put an end to all the lectures and breast-beating about our brutal racist history. When I stand on the steps of the Capitol building and take the oath of office as your president, that very act will put an end- forever- to the idea of African-Americans as second-class citizens. Rather than endless recriminations and accusations, we’ll all stand together as equals in the eyes of God and the U.S. Constitution.

Millions of Americans – including some conservatives who should have known better- rushed to take that deal, and embraced Obama’s candidacy.

But now, at a decisive point in the race, the candidate has abruptly changed the bargain.

Rather than promising less race consciousness, he now insists we need more. Instead of bidding to lead a post-racial-- or at least a post-racist—America, Obama’s speech tells us we must go back to picking at the old scab.

Actually, Barack was right the first time: putting race aside, affirming our common Americanism and humanity, can serve to heal old divides. Obsessing on racial divisions, focusing on “blackness” or “whiteness,” perpetuating the eternal cycle of grudge and guilt, only intensifies the fever associated with the nation’s most menacing disease.

Bill Clinton also believed that we needed more talk about race, and as president he participated in a series of televised “public dialogues” (amounting to tiresome gripe fests) that achieved nothing at all other than underlining Slick Willie’s enlightenment and compassion.

If the Obama campaign follows up on his over-praised speech and makes intensified race-talk into a new national priority, he may well destroy his chances of winning the presidency. The most “progressive” wing of the Democratic Party could celebrate prospect that a President Obama would get countless opportunities to deliver more lectures on slavery, Jim Crow, oppression, and race differences.

But less politically correct Americans may prove notably less eager to seize the chance for additional solemn scolding sessions like the one they just heard in Philadelphia. Most voters, black as well as white, feel weary and wary of the destructive cycle of accusation and apology, so that Obama’s new implied promise of a presidency of endless race-based agitation may well constitute an offer that we easily can refuse.

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The politics of YOUARACIST
I lived in Atlanta for 17 years. I moved away from Atlanta 10 years ago, to Canada, because I got sick and tired of being called a racist simply because I am white. My parents brought me up to believe that we judge by character and not colour. In Atlanta I was relentlessly hammered with the demand to judge ONLY by colour, and that all whites are guilty and all blacks innocent, even if 50 million people saw the crime on world wide teevee THE BLACK GUY DID NOT DO IT. I moved away from Atlanta lest I become a racist.

Now here comes Mr. Black American Idol once again hammering me with the YOUARACIST hammer, telling me that blacks cannot be racist and whites cannot be anything else.

If he thinks he is going to fool me, or anyone else who ever lived in the South, he is began when Rev. Wright began to preach.

No, Obama, I am not a racist. My fmily never owned slaves, nor did we attack yours with fire hoses or running dogs. And if you believe Rev. Wright is NOT a racist, I challenge you to take your White Mama and Grandmama to his church and then ask THEM what they think. And have the grace not to reply "YOU SEE! YOUARACIST!"

Content of character
"Barack’s big moment features content that is shamelessly manipulative, blatantly misleading, deliberately deceptive and even dishonest."
And that, very succinctly, describes the content of Obama's character.

Hypocrisy...
With this speech, do we know more or less about Barack Obama? It occurs to me that we know more, at least, about the spurious political nature of his character. Here's a man who cannot separate a man's 'beneficial work' for humanity from his hate speech. Bottom line: for Barack Obama to have sat at the feet of Jeremiah Wright as a spiritual leader tells the whole story. Merely "disagreeing" with some of Wright's hate-filled views of the world is not enough. Ultimately,he seemed to be okay with Wright's rantings. It seems that one thing, at least, is clear - the Democrats have two candidates who can use words in a masterful way to become all things to all people, whose postmodern approach to truth allows them to say whatever is necessary to achieve the personal objectives they seek.

Michael &Other Children
This "MOMENT" in American history and even more importance,it's survival,is not about Mr.Obama.America faces "PERIL" on almost every side.What to do about the outside issues is relevant but not important.Our important test, comes in the choices we make on the issues, which govern the "INSIDE".Mr.Obama is a book marker,that allows "US" the opportunity to discuss and discover areas we need to address.Everyone on the "TITANIC" didn't know or like each other.But on that certain night, they were one.I honestly don't care who becomes president,to me it's a fool's job.No PEACE,No APPRECIATION,No HELP,etc."US" let President Bush down,when we did not speak to the Iraq question.A person who is president leads a nation.What happens when the nation is not there.We have come to rely on the Constitution and other permanent documents.Why?Are we afraid to challenge the past with the future.The whole discussion of the "Right to Bear Arms", is another example of "US" and our will.Why allow yourself to be manipulated by an issue, you know the answer to.I NEVER ASK!!!

Obama made a wonderful speech!!!
However, Just like his other wonderful speeches, it was all a bunch of Poetic Crap!

He basically said that he can understand how his Pastor can be a American Hating, White Hating Racist.

Because his grandmother was a Racist, and Geraldine Ferraro is a Racist, and Talk show host are racist.

You see, his Pastor is just another victim of the Racist, Bigot society that envelopes all of America.

But in the 20 years of listening to his Pastors hate speech, he has learned how to bridge the gap between the Racist Black Victims and the Guilty White Racist Bigots!

Just like he has learned to work with Republicans in bipartisanship by consistently voting against them on every major issue.

And as the true Socialist Liberal that he is, he ended his speech telling us we need to tax the hell out of the greedy white racist, along with all other people that work, and use it to provide social programs for the Victims.

As Usual He did not say "GOD BLESS YOU!" or "GOD BLESS AMERICA!"

How Telling!

AudiR10
Today's post from you was shocking! I always look for your comments to find a well reasoned, well written essay.

The emotion you feel today is quite deep and has led to an undecipherable assembly of words. WOW!!!

I hope you feel better as the day goes on.

I'm so glad
I'm so glad that Obama's image is starting to crack. He is a demogogue and this business about not running as a black man but then winning the black vote (why? because they vote for the color of skin!)was bound to crack once we found out the truth of the church he has attended for 20 years. I thought he would be bothered by accusations of being a Muslim, and here it is his brand of hateful Christianity that is bringing him down. Interesting.
Needless to say, I won't be voting for him. Or Hillary.

Medved, You Got One Right For A Change
BHO's promises, like Clintoon's are promises that will result in many things that Wright appears to want. "Free." Wright cannot see past his armwaving. All of the things promised by the two Demos (same) will take us toward socialism, "It Takes A Village," a the demise of that which made the US great - being an individual with numerous freedoms. Putting a free African plains animal in a cage is not freedom. BHO dug a deep grave for himself many years ago. I predict that he has lost many types of voters, that include most of the undecided males, perhaps latinos (unless they can see beyond the Afro-centricism), and reasonable females and young people. Please politicians, quit reading words written by speech writers - speak, on the spot, with your own words without taking days to dream up a "I have a Dream" speech.

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
I've heard many Anti-American, Liberal, Socialist commentators comparing Obama's speech to Dr. Martin Luther King's.

I'm so glad our that the media can be objective and would not try to push their Socialist agenda!

HA!

To compare Obama's speech to Dr. Kings speech is kind of like comparing a pile of Horse $hit to Filet Mignon.

Dr. King preached equality.

Obama preaches victimization.

Dr. King wanted fairness.

Obama wants Preference.

Dr. King loved America.

Obama despises America.

If Obama gets the Democrat Nomination, John McCain will be the next President.

Once again the Democrats snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory.

If...
...Barack O-Bunny and his pastor/mentor Wright or so Afro-Centrist, why don't they hop on the next plane to the "dark continent," fix all the problems there, and then come back and worry about America (see you in about 1,000 years?)?

Who was responsible for the following?
1. 800,000 dead in Rwanda
2. Genocide in Sudan
3. Murders of White Farmers in Zimbabwe

Hint: Blacks.

yes, you are on point.....
Got your memo from John Moody today I see:

the three problems with Senator Obama's speech:

1) Fake Christians...heading the spiritual warfare against religion.

2) Corrupt White Republicans.

3) John Moody and Fox news.

Obama is a credit...
to his race. Since he has made this all about race.

Problem is leadership of this wonderful country does not a racist of any shape or color in the office of the President or Congress. Hopefully the American people can see through the guilt speech of Obama and recognize that the way you redress wrongs is to individually insist on fair and equal treatment at any level we can influence. But you do not redress wrongs by putting a racist into the highest office of the land.

Medved: shameless demagogue
Medved's logic here is so convoluted I can't keep it all straight. The only thing that is clear is that he is working overtime to belittle and distort what was an historic speech. The clue lies in the number of words he requires to make his indecipherable "points". I guess we're all supposed to see the number of words and assume he is saying something of substance. Then he cleverly peppers his column with words like deceptive, manipulative, exploitative, etc, in order to make it seem all of those things, which it is not.

First of all, what is deceptive about saying that Ferraro's comments are offensive in one way, and Rev Wright's are offensive in another way. He's pointing out that both are instances of confusion about race. So where is the deception in this exactly?

Also, Obama was not equating his grandmothers racist comments with Wright's comments. Obama didn't say they were equal. Medved said Obama said they were equal. It's a deeply dishonest paraphrasing of Obama's words. Obama was talking about his relationship with the two of them and the black community. He was saying that they are both a very deep part of who he is and that's why he couldn't disown them. And it's critical to keep in mind that he was also saying that, if he had ONLY heard the snippets played on TV repeatedly (like y'all), he would feel as all of you do. But he's also saying that Rev Wright is far more than that. He is a man who was willing to lay his life on the line for his country as a marine, which is more than Michael Medved has been willing to do for his country.

To be continued:

Medved: shameless demagogue
To continue:

He is a respected religious scholar who received his doctorate from the University of Chicago. And one of the most frequent themes in his sermons are blacks taking personal responsibility for their own problems. But he's also a man who, understandably, harbors deep anger at certain aspects of America. And considering his background it shouldn't surprise too many people that he occasionally expresses that anger in the heat of the moment.

But what's most important to grasp here is that Obama is very different from Rev Wright when it comes to politics and race. Obama does not harbor the same anger and resentment towards whites, or America.

People ask: Why didn't he leave that church?


This question is based on the assumption that those snippets are all there is to Rev Wright, and all there is to Trinity Church. And to take such unyeilding positions on the man and the church based on so little information is a sign of a severe deficiency in critical thinking skills. Just imagine if the whole world knew nothing about you except thirty seconds of film of you in your worst, weakest moments. How would you feel about that?

Medved knows exactly what he is doing here. He is exploiting your ignorance. He knows that all too many of you are all too eager to assume the worst about Obama, and he's taking full advantage of it.

Michael Medved is the classic definition of a demagogue: one who appeals to the emotions and the prejudices of his audience.

Shame on you Medved.

Cold Hard Truth writes:
"Who was responsible for the following?"
1. 800,000 dead in Rwanda
2. Genocide in Sudan
3. Murders of White Farmers in Zimbabwe

"Hint: Blacks."


Cold Hard Truth:

Did you not listen to Reverend Wrights speeches.

These people were all victims of the White Racist America.

Except the White Farmers, they deserved to die at the hands of the oppressed victims.

Medved: shameless demagogue
To continue:

Medved's comments about Trinity church are another example of his demagogy. He asks us to replace the word "black" with "white". As if that substitution can be made without fundamentally changing the context of the statements. Whites are a priviledged majority, blacks have been an oppressed minority.

Medved is counting on the fact that you readers won't be smart enough to pick up on that obvious bit of deception on his part.

He thinks you're stupid folks!

Factual Problems
Many of today's problems in America's urban black communities did not exist during the times of enforced, institutional separatism and racism.

The high crime rate, the high illegitimate birth rate, the high drug abuse rate -- all these came after segregation ended.

These problems existed to some extent in the black communities of the 1940's, 50's and 60's, but weren't much higher than in the rest of America. The problems began when progressive, Great Society social programs destroyed the black family. Obama and the rest of the democrat promise more of the same.

School districts with majority minority students also have school boards run by a majority of minority members.

How can the problems in our schools be blamed on segregation? Segregation can't be the problem when blacks lead other blacks. The breakdown of the traditional black family is also the primary cause and the whole-hearted embrace of liberal social engineering by the school boards and administrators is the secondary cause. Low expectations for the students and by the students is also a major factor.


Medved: shameless demagogue
On Medved's final point. He blames Obama for talking about race, when he knows damn well that the right wing of this country used those sensational videos to push him into a corner and force him to say something about it. Then when he does, Medved criticizes him for saying something about race.

I guess that's how hard you have to work to try to make Obama look bad.

medved says: "His campaign succeeded in large part because he implicitly promised to move our society beyond the long and tragic centuries of racial agitation and pain."

Yes, and his speech did more to help realize that dream than anything we've heard since MLK's I have a dream speech. There is no doubt in my mind that black churches all around the country will be reexamining the way they preach in their congregations. And the hope was that white people could start to empathize with blacks in the hopes that they might be able to understand why some blacks are angry about some aspects of America's past. Unfortunately, Medved and his right wing pundit buddies seem all too determined to make sure that doesn't happen.

Shame on you Medved. It's never been more clear that you care more about your party than you do about your country.

Phylo out.

I blame poor public education...
...for creating so many gullible,stupid nitwits of all colors in their inability to de-cypher Obomination's so-called brilliant prose.

Read a great American thinker instead if you desire the real truth.In yesterdays WSJ peruse Mr. Shelby Steele's fine article on the "empty suit" a/k/a B. Hussein O.

Race relations in our country.


I disagree with Obama on many issues, yet this speech open up dialogue that could transcend race relations in our country.

I was very touched by his story about his white grandmother. I am Jewish and my wife is Christian and her grandparents made comments with similar insensitive type tone about Jews in front of me. Yet when they were alive they treated me like their own son.

I had many mix feelings about what they said and how they open their hearts to me. It was comforting to know and refreshing that America can have this real conversation about race and religion.


Obama can't get out of this by talk
Anyone can go to YouTube and see full sermons by the Rev. Wright without any interpretations or interruptions. He isn't making casual remarks--Imus made a casual remark while he was reading something else entirely, but because it was caught on camera, his entire life was ruined.

The so-called Rev. has been spewing his hatred and vitriol for dozens of years, and Obama has had decades to disavow it and has never done so.

He doesn't now. He twice compared Ferraro's one sentence to Wright's years of wrath. The weight of one will not counterbalance the other.

Obama might have been better saying he heard this stuff for years in church and it sometimes disturbed him but that he has also felt this anger and can identify with it. Obviously, despite his charmed adult life, he did feel alienated and marginalized when he was being kicked around between families when he was a kid.

In his earliest web site, he only showed photos of his black family; whereas, most of his life. he was raised by his white mother, white step father, and white grandparents.

Mr. Obama is too conflicted to withstand the pressure cooker of a campaign, let alone the presidency.

The Dems. have done it again.

Phylo
Please ... Shame on Medved - phooey! Shame on you for being so freakin' clueless.

retired
Presumably you have the time to tell me why I'm clueless. I have to get to work, but I'll check in later for your brilliant analysis of my cluelessness



Not Enough Lipstick to Dress up This Pig
The Dems have done it again. They tried to use race and gender as a tool to get into the White House and this tool ends up being the very thing that will keep them from it! Barack seemed like the candidate that transcended race and exuded temperance. Now its apparent that he is either clueless about his own life and interpersonal relationships or he himself is actually anything but a man of temperance. Either way, Mr. Obama is NOT presidential material. He is a very, very good salesman though.

Acknowledge and Contain
Conservatives reacted to Obama's speech with predictable hate and hysteria. For example, a TH poster last night headed the post "Obama, Racist and Thief" and went on to say that "Obama is stealing Hillary's Florida votes because he will not permit a re-vote". (As anybody with an IQ higher than 10 and living in the United States knows, the Florida vote fight is between the DNC and the Florida legislature; Obama has no voice in it at all. He followed the agreed-upon rules, along with all Democratic candidates but Hillary, who broke the rules and now wants the rules changed to accommodate the votes she received illegally---there simply is no question of Obama "stealing votes" but at this point in time anything bad that can be said about Obama resonates with conservatives.)

It is a known thing that young children and emotionally unstable people see the world in extremes of good and bad. Mature people recognize that good and bad co-exist and that we can acknowledge and contain both. This is what Obama's speech did. Of course he did not dishonor his grandmother. He acknowledged his grandmother's love and nurture---and her race prejudice. He acknowledged his pastor's good guidance---and his extremism. And contained all of it. All of it is true, and part of Obama's history, and part of this nation. In effect, he said, "I recognize both good and evil in the world. I don't need to deny either. The impact of all of that doesn't knock me flat. I am still standing."

We would be stunningly fortunate to have a leader with such vision and maturity, but the tone of townhall posts tells me that the United States is not ready for such a leader, and quite probably does not deserve him.

"PLAYED"
Every person in the media, has known of these tapes,since Mr.Obama's bid for president, began.But now that "SWEEPS WEEK" is upon them, they decide to release the story.Why?Higher ratings allow for higher ad fees.None of them care about our opportunity to discuss our differences.They play with the most sensitive of "ISSUES", like a child plays with their TOY.Yet,Americans are too attached to their own ignorance, to abandon the "Thieves".People who rob "US" of our dignity in the full view of the "WORLD",should be made to understand.that "FOOLS" we will not be.For anyone,anymore!!!

Straight from the Racist's mouth.
http://www.tucc.org/talking_points.htm


So, we finally get an idea of what Barrack Obama stands for.

You Don't Choose Your Grandma
You can pick your nose. You can pick your mentor. You can pick your pastor. But you can't pick your grandma.

I live in a mixed neighborhood. Within one mile of my home we have had nine, gun in your face, robberies and one murder in the past 18 months. All were perpetrated by black males.

In a 60-40 society, why is all the violent crime being committed by blacks? Gee, are they more violent, immoral and dangerous? Yes they are.

It sounds like Obama's grammy is a woman of good sense.

Shame on you Phylo Se Fiser
For supporting black racism.

renny
Make up your mind. Do you want black preachers, who often have a unique preaching style and do not in any way resemble the priest at an Episcopal High Church mass, to not be allowed to "spew vitriol"? Townhall has, in recent months, run repeated articles by a couple of regular columnists who are black preachers and who wrote to defend their right to "spew vitriol" from the pulpit, regarding homosexuality. Why don't you see if you can get some film clips of them preaching on the subject of homosexuals and hellfire? You'll be reminded of Pastor Jeremiah Wright.

This is not even limited to the black church. I had four direct ancestors who were (white) Primitive Baptist preachers on the American frontier between 1768 and 1890. Internet research teaches me that their preaching style was probably quite similar to that of Jeremiah Wright.

Conversations on race
Been there, done that over and over. I'll just move on with my life if you don't mind.

Hi Lilly
Just to let you know, the year is 2008.

Also, I dont think your ancestors are the spiritual advisors for any current Presidential candidates.

I am not sure
AudiR10:

Where you lived in Atlanta, but I am sure there are plenty of places inside the city--Virginia Highlands/Morningside area, Buckhead, etc where no one would consider you a racist simply because you are white--well maybe Emma Darnell, Tyrone Brooks, and few of the other race warlords, but I am talking about people who are sane.

And you can always have moved to the right suburb or exurb. Atlanta as a city is a hellhole by in large and I'd never live inside I-285 or anyplace near it. If I was a crow, I could make I-285 in 20 miles or so.

killer re: 8:50 a.m.
Care to write posts that most normal people can understand? That way we will be better able to respond.

Lilly...god!
"Make up your mind. Do you want black preachers, who often have a unique preaching style and do not in any way resemble the priest at an Episcopal High Church mass, to not be allowed to "spew vitriol"? Townhall has, in recent months, run repeated articles by a couple of regular columnists who are black preachers and who wrote to defend their right to "spew vitriol" from the pulpit, regarding homosexuality.

The Bible teaches that homsexuality is a sin--in both the OT (mostly Leviticas) and in the NT (Romans as well as others). It is the role of the preacher to preach aganist sin--as well as others--adultry, lust, etc etc.

It is one thing to say GD America (itself a sin) and America created AIDS (another sin--thy shall not bear false witness) and preaching what the Bible actually says.

BTW, I am not a Christian--but neither so it seems is "Rev." Wright.

Can I send my $5 off too and become a Rev too in the United Church of Christ? Maybe change my name to Rev. Leroy...the Church of What's Happenin' Now, Baby...(CWHNB/UCC, LTD.).



open dialogue
There is no opportunity for open dialogue because of the PC police. If a predominately white church had a view of a white centric philosophy, they would be tried and convicted in the PC court of public opinion. Of course, that would be wrong. They should be free to have whatever beliefs they want.

What is necessary is to view their issues in the light; black centic, white centric, etc. Let's discuss the validity of these points openly. Let the Wrights of the world express and defend their views as well as any other group. But, let us first bury the name calling as a means of attack. Let the facts and the logic speak for itself. If you think that blacks are the superior race, or the Jews or Whites or Chinese or whatever, let's discuss and defend the views.

I find the idea that blacks cannot be racists infantile. It is a born of a world that does not exist today like it did the past. In fact it is self defeating. It allows individuals to quit and blame others for their failure.

Society is not color blind. It sees green. If you can make them money, they will hire you. Do you really think that the illegal aliens that got all of these jobs got them because of any type of preferences? I am sure a lot of the people that hired them really didn't like them.

They got the jobs because they work hard and they work cheap. I am not defending or in favor of illegal immigration. But it illustrates the point.

I think that many of these churches preach a vitimhood mentality. They are extortionists. They want white people to pay and continue paying for the faults of their ancestors.

OBOMA IS DISASTER FOR AMERICA .
Oboma and his leader are bad enough on their racist baiting comments about white folks but Oboma lack of understanding or War and our basic economic is the other major way I can't and tax paying others can't vote for him ever . Each human beeings resolves his or her fate with their own moral value lives .............Not Goverenment Nanny state he so seeks with every breath he has in his body . He wants to impose Socialism on a Capitolist nation . Hell No Oboma .....We saw enough of Russia and China to last us 300 million they murdered and staved to death in the name of everybody is equal rights !

John Konop
Your comments about family reminded me of an incident that happened to my co-worker forty years ago. He was a non-religious New York Jewish guy who had recently become engaged to a Chicago Catholic Polish-American girl. Together they flew to Chicago to meet (read: confront) her family. They expected difficulties. When they arrived, the girl's family was actually cordial. Then they took the young man into the dining room, where a spread had been prepared to welcome him: bagels, lox, and Kosher Manisheiwitz wine. Take this as you will; sometimes the line between "prejudice" and "trying to be nice" is pretty thin.

Five stars for Mr. Medved
Finally, a spot-on column from Mr. Medved. Obama's speech was a magnificent effort to divert attention completely away from himself and his outrageous and unexplainable behavior of sitting in a pew for 20 years and listening to anti-American racist venom from a man he chose specifically to be his pastor and spiritual mentor.

In part, he succeeded in diverting attention from himself. But, the place he diverted it to was a reopening of the racial fires in this country. And he fanned those sufficiently to now make the presidential race racial, fully racial.

What would happen if we had a white sitting Senator in the U.S. Senate, now running for president, who for 20 years partook in Aryan organizations? How long does anyone think he would be allowed to run for President? He'd be tarred and feathered by mainstream media -- and if Barack Obama were white, that's exactly what would have happened to him. Instead, half the idiots are falling over themselves proclaiming a history-making speech.

It was simply a diversion tactic. And apparently it worked.

FOWG
Some of my indecipherability is due to the fact that my good computer blew a tire (or something) at Sebring and I am trying to work with the equivalent of a stone tablet and a chisel.

Nevertheless, I remain firm in my stance that what Barak Obama believes in his heart is that all Blacks are innocent and all Whites are guilty, and that the reason he would not take his Mama or Grandmama to that church is not to spare them humiliation, but to spare himself the humiliation of being discarded by his fellow church members for being "a Oreo" or "not Black enough."

A man who truly believed he was the Post Racist Candidate would be proudly squiring his Mama and his Grandmama everywhere he went and pointing to them with pride. Instead, he trots out his step-grandma from Kenya who barely knew him at all.

20 Years ago Obama chose to be Black and not White. Now he has to live with his choice.

for Phylo
Phylo claims: "He is a respected religious scholar who received his doctorate from the University of Chicago. "

But you have forgotten to state what that "religion" is.

It's not traditional Christianity.

It's Black Liberation Theology. Based on a philosophy of Afro-centrism.

Maybe YOU are too young to remember the history of this, but I am not.

The philosophy of Afro-centrism is that everything important in world history was invented by black Africans. The Greeks and Romans invented nothing; they just "stole it" all from the blacks. Moses and Jesus and Cicero were all black Africans.

On top of that, Black Liberation theology tries to make the case that Christianity necessarily implies a socialist society.

I've been there, done that. I've read James Cone (have you?), and I've listened to Farrakhan and Al Sharpton. That is where THEY are coming from. It's a profoundly paranoid and hateful view of all white people. In fact, they regard whites the same way the "Aryan" Nazis regarded Slavs: As inferior beings, morally and even mentally.

Wright isn't alone. That type of drivel became very popular in the black militancy of the 1960s and spread like wildfire throughout these new "black studies" courses. They invented a wholly spurious world history which turns everything upside down to give them a false identity they never really had in the first place.

I don't want a President of the United States who in any way is associated with it.


China
Most of the starvation in China was due to gross mismangement of the rural peasant economy during the end of the Great Leap Forward which the Chinese called the san nian zi ran zai hai (the Three Years of Natural Diasters) but commonly known as san nian da ji huang (the Three Year Great Famine) which lasted from 1958 until 1961.

It was not only due to stupid government policies--e.g. the four pests campaign, etc, but also due to natural conditions as well.

China never saw everyone as having equal rights--especially the landlords, rich peasants, urban elites, etc.

In 1978, Deng basically threw the Maoist approach over board, so even the Chinese don't have much faith in socialism--even if the Deng reforms are called Socialism with Chinese Characteristics (Juyou Zhongguo Tese De Shehui Zhuyi), it is really a market-based economy mixed with various inefficient SOEs that the free market helps to keep afloat because they are too inefficient to be sold and the social cost of closing them is too much to bear.

JeffreyP
You are absolutely wrong when you speak of social problems in the black community not existing until after the coming of civil rights laws and anti-poverty laws in the 1960's. Think a minute. If there had been no problem, why would legislation have been designed to address a problem?

This is like saying that there weren't any crazy people until mental hospitals were built or there weren't any homeless people until shelters and feeding programs came along. Proposed solutions don't always succeed, but they don't create the problem they are supposed to solve, and to say this is to ignore logic and common sense.

anachronistic thinking
There was at least one good laugh in this column. It came when he cited with horror the line "We are an African people, and remain ‘true to our native land,’ the mother continent, the cradle of civilization." What was so funny is that this comes from a jewish man who is apparently unoffended by the fact that each sedar ends with the announcement, "next year in Jerusalem", certainly the jewish equivalent of that comment. But presumably Medved will get around to blasting the unamericanism of such a view about the time he stops engaging in it.

Medved does at least see the silliness of this because he tries to make the case that jewish connection to Israel is weaker than that expressed by Trinity, but it is at best a half-hearted attempt.

Even sillier, but not as laugh out loud funny, is the idea that Obama's giving this speech in the context of an uproar about Wright's sermons constitutes a violation of some promise to never talk about race. Obama's promise was to not talk about race in the outdated fashion of Wright or Steele, and his speech was a defense of this. And it was quite a good one.

Like Medved don't know if this speech will be politically effective. But it was a speech that people who are tired of the divisive way that race has been dealt with in this country should applaud. Medved seems to recognize the danger to his politics if such a view catches on.

Akagi
I lived in Buckhead, over by Lenox Square. My congressman was the moral equivalent of Rev. Wright -- the immoral John Lewis, who once compared the squalor of the Black community to the Holocaust, and when I called him on it in a respectful letter to his office, left a voice mail message on my phone calling me a racist.

That was the day I decided to get the hades out of Dodge.

I had to live in the city, by the way, because I cannot drive due to being blind in one eye. Even in Atlanta they won't let blind people drive, though you some days could not prove that empirically.

for lilly
lilly asks: "Make up your mind. Do you want black preachers, who often have a unique preaching style and do not in any way resemble the priest at an Episcopal High Church mass, to not be allowed to 'spew vitriol'?"

America, like any other nation, tends to be a lot less indulgent when we've been attacked by a hostile foreign power and gone to war.

Some of Wright's most hateful comments were made only FIVE DAYS after the 9-11 attack, when they were still looking for survivors at Ground Zero and the wreckage hadn't even stopped smoldering yet.

And Wright wasn't alone.

Medea Benjamin published online a hateful screed "reminding" America of all the allegedly terrible things we had done--on the very afternoon of the 9-11 attack. Her instinctive reaction, watching the attack go forward on TV, was evidently to denounce America in the strongest terms instead of denouncing the attackers who had attacked us. So as soon as the four planes had hit their targets, she went right to work to "remind" us of why we don't deserve any better.

Only Leftists like you saw no problem whatsoever in kicking America during her darkest hour. Normal people were in shock. Leftists couldn't suppress that amused detachment that they always manifest whenever America gets a bloody nose.


Nice try Medved....you failed
I dug up this column seeking negative headlines about the Obama speech. I'm open-minded enough to want to hear what a critic has to say. But I can't leave it at that. Anyone who is going to parse this speech looking for some measure of denunciation, ("He denounced Wright this much, but not enough; it should be a condemnation of the scale of X.") has totally and completely missed the point. Barack Obama went out on a limb and some say, soared above that limb. Just because he took the Wright scandal as a launching point to talk about race is NOT a diversion, but really an even deeper look into what he said and why. I could rip every sentence of your column apart, but I'll just end with this. You claim that something Wright said is far worse than what his grandmother said around the kitchen table. Huh? It's apples and oranges pal: His **grandmother**?? How would you feel if a grandmother who you know loves you, said something nasty about your race, your religion or you moustache for that matter. Don't be so naive!! But then, I guess we need to read critics falling into that trap, when even conservatives are endorsing the power and the scope of his message. You failed!

lilly
I have read hundreds of your comments here at Townhall over the months - and while you are clearly not stupid, you are quite indoctrinated with liberalism and lack common sense.

As the kids say, you are "Smart in the class, but dumb on the bus!"

There is absolutely not a shred of conclusive evidence, based upon his resume' or life experiences, that qualifies BHO for the highest office in the land. None.

But you and people like you will support, defend and vote for him.

Unbelievable - but regrettably true.

Lilly
Do you EVER stay on topic or directly respond in a debate?

You quoted something 40 years ago and something from between 1768 and 1890? What does that have to do with comments by Wright as recent as this year and Obama's refusal to back off of that.

You might be the biggest advocate for Moral equivilence that I have ever witnessed.

Not addressing lilly (as it is
a lost cause), but her latest post to John Konop.

If the Catholic Polish-American girl from Chicago hadn't taken the time to inform her family as to the preferences of the non-religious New Yourk Jewish guy based upon THEIR anticipation of an impending CONFRONTATION that was never going to happen. Then THEY are to blame for any offense taken by THEM over the genuine attempts to be gracious and good hosts by HER PARENTS!

It's amazing how liberals and common sense don't go together.


To Recon-USMC
Re: "Oboma and his leader are bad enough for their racist baiting comments about white folks but Oboma lack of understanding or War and other basic economic is the other major way I can't and tax paying others can't vote for him ever. Each human beeings resolves his or her fate with their own moral value lives.......Not government Nanny State he so seeks with every breath in his body. He wants to impose Socialism on a Capitolist nation. Hell no Oboma....We saw enough of Russia and China to last us 300 million they murdered and staved to death in the name of everybody is equal rights!"

Recon-MSNC, thank you for reminding us once again that our military is composed of the best and the brightest among us.

Lewis
It could have been worse, you could have been represented by McKinney, the cutist little communist in the Congress (when she was there). I know there were members on the Atlanta City Council that have told white voters in their districts they don't consider them their constituents. In the 2006 election for Fulton County Chairman, ads were run on black radio stations saying that if the white GOP candidate (from north Fulton) won, 40 years of civil rights progress would be erased and implied that police dogs and water hoses would be back--the people that narrated the ad were John Lewis, Andrew Young, and Mayor Shirley Franklin. That fool Lewis even said this in the ad--vote like your life depends on it, because it does.

The Fulton County Chairman had been a white member of the GOP from north Fulton since I have lived here. North Fulton was its own county--Milton--until 1932--I think north Fulton needs to turn back to Milton.

And SteveL:

Don't forget that blacks sailed from Africa to the New World before Columbus.

And Lily:

"but they don't create the problem they are supposed to solve..."

No, but they often make them far worse.


Close your eyes and tell me he's Black.

Barack Obama is just as White as he is Black. How come he gets to call himself Black exclusively?

If he was Republican or conservative (rarely are those two the same anymore) he would ALWAYS be called White.

Shouldn't he be called White at least half the time?

Close your eyes and listen to his slick, content-free rhetoric. Barack does not sound like a Black of any flavor. He sounds exactly like a liberal White male Democrat.

Barack Obama is a dark-skinned Bill Clinton. He's just as liberal as Slick Willy. He's just as deceptive and coniving as Bubba. And they both hate Hillary.

Would Barack Obama be as articulate and intelligent as he is if his DNA was 100% Black?

Or is that not a question that can be asked in this country where the First Amendment only applies to the speech of anti-Christians and America-haters?

Close your eyes and listen to Barack. He sounds just like the spoiled brat of an America-hating (but America-indulging) White 60s hippie chick.

If ever there was a walking specimen of a Jane Fonda-Jesse Jackson love-child, Barack Hussein Obama is it.

In fact, I want a DNA test to prove that his mama ain't Jane Fonda.

USMC (Ret)
You missed my point, but as it was a subtle one this isn't astonishing. But let's try again: Suppose you live in a white neighborhood. For the first time, a black family buys a house. They move in. There are rumbles around the neighborhood of trouble and you want to do something neighborly and kind, hoping to forestall bad blood. So you cook up a mess of chitterlings and collard greens and take them over to the black family's house as a welcoming gift.

Now, suppose you yourself do not care for collard greens and had to ask directions to a store that sells chitterlings; in fact, you aren't even sure what they are. But you have heard that this is what black folks eat and you want to give them something they enjoy. In fact, your new neighbors are college-educated, sophisticated people who happen to be black. They were raised in upper middle-class families where traditional black culture was denied for the sake of upward mobility. They would not know a chitterling if they found one on their living room sofa. Also, they are vegetarian (no chitterlings), work out daily at a health club, and shop exclusively at WholeFoods Organic Supermarket.

Do you begin, even a little bit, to see why welcoming the daughter's Jewish boyfriend with bagels, lox, and Kosher wine was, to say the least, heavy-handed? There are many levels of "confrontation".

Church Statement of faith
if you want to call it that.

#11 Pledge allegiance to all black leaders who
espouse and embrace the Black Value System

#12 Personal commitment to embracement of Black
Value System

This is NOT a Christian Church, it's a cult.
Cults pledge allegiance to their leaders and accept without question their teaching.

Number #11 & 12 leave no question that it doesn't teach orthodox christianity. And
Wrights diatribes are examples. It's so far away from the teachings of Christ it's not funny.
The mindless cheering, clapping, jumping up and back slapping at the words of this foul mouthed
FALSE prophet is another example of cultist behavior.

On the other hand
Christians make a commitment to Christ..Big difference.

When Wright G*** America he said it was in the Bible. When my Pastor cites the Bible, we get
chapter and verse and are told to follow along.
Tell us where, irreverent Wright, tell us where?

elroy:

Mr. Medved's analysis was spot on. Your comments are uninformed and not worth reading.

P.S.
It really helps the credibility of your comments if you actually read the column before you fire off your emotional outburst.

P.P.S.
Anyone who defends Obama is automatically declaring to the world that they suffer from an IQ deficit. Sorry about your cerebral deficiency. Hope your head stops hurting soon.

Polls - Obama is Plummeting

These polls were taken over the weekend. The Obama pastor story had just broke. So it may not have sunk in yet.
North Carolina - Hillary is now even.
Obama has lost 8 points.
Pennsylvania - Hillary up 26 points. It's a blowout. Now we know why he had to give the speech.

BHO Speech
What concerns me most about Rev. Wright, his church and ultimately, BHO, is this: in a Christian church, at some point, Galatians 3:26-28 is discussed/preached on or homilied. It says (NIV):26)You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, 27) for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourself with Christ. 28) There is neither Jew nor Greek, bond nor free, male nor female for all are one in Christ Jesus. I wonder if that truth is lost upon Rev. Wright. I hope the scales fall from his eyes and all under his pastoral care, and they become fools for Christ instead of lovers of self.

The Speech
When Sen. Barrack Obama spoke, he crafted a speech meant to ease the minds of all people...to distance himself from Rev. Wright...to impress the commentators and to even confirm that he was not,"all the way" black. Here is your next president. If he never gives another speech, this one will be broadcast millions of times over and folks like Chris Matthews will "handle" the rest of the senator's campaign. Now if you oppose Sen. Obama you are a racist.