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Wednesday, January 02, 2008
Michael Medved :: Townhall.com Columnist
Iowa Eve: Misconceptions, Secret Weapons And The G.O.P. Big Five
by Michael Medved
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No one knows with certainty who will win the Iowa Caucuses on Thursday night or, for that matter, the New Hampshire Primary a mere five days later.

Today, Wednesday, five different candidates still retain a real (if in some cases remote) chance of winning the Republican nomination for President of the United States but within a week one or more of those contenders may have been forced from serious competition.

It’s an ideal moment, in other words, to review the GOP “Big Five” with an eye to where the conventional wisdom is wrong, and the “secret weapons” that each of them possesses.

MITT ROMNEY

Common Misconception: The hostility to his campaign stems from anti-Mormon bigotry

Truth: Romney has effectively neutralized anti-Mormon bigotry with his superb December 6th speech – the sterling high point of his campaign, for which he received near universal acclaim. Nevertheless, for such an affable, accomplished and attractive candidate, Mitt still attracts startlingly high negative ratings: according to Rasmussen Reports, fully 47% of voters say they will “definitely” not vote for Romney in November; only Hillary Clinton herself (with an identical 47% of core opposition) provokes comparably poor reactions. The widespread hostility to Romney bears less connection to charges that his religious commitment is dangerous or “cultish,” than to fears that he has no real commitment at all. He is seen by many suspicious voters as a “phony” – an empty suit who’ll do anything to get himself elected. Kenneth Anderson of the Hoover Institution (himself a former LDS missionary, and hardly an anti-Mormon bigot) wrote of Romney in The Weekly Standard: “He is (in my humble opinion) a man of principles so pragmatic that he lacks any unshakeable political foundation, save that he ought to be president of the United States. He is a politician of the moderate center who has sat down with his consultants in the calculus of management consultants everywhere and concluded that winning the presidency must mean dropping his moderation – itself principally a means of winning office in liberal Massachusetts – and reinventing himself as a man of the right.”

Flip-flops doomed the last candidate from Massachusetts (the unlamented Jean Francois Kerry), but at least that feeble Democrat could point to consistent themes over a long career: anti-war activism, liberalism on all social issues, faith in big government programs to remake society, support for “national health care,” and so forth. Romney would find it difficult to link his failed 1994 Senate campaign with any of the themes he’s attempting to use in his presidential candidacy. Fourteen years ago, he wasn’t just on the other side of the abortion issue; he was on the opposite side of virtually every public controversy. And he took those positions not as some college student or youthful idealist, but as an already wealthy business leader and the Republican nominee for the United States Senate. This inconsistency goes along with the sense that the candidate’s too perfect, too slick, too polished and leads to the conclusion that he’s just a smooth-talking salesman trying to sell a bill of goods (himself) to the gullible public.

His Secret Weapon: An increasingly obvious ability to get tough.

For all practical purposes, the Mittster could lock up the GOP nomination with convincing wins in Iowa and New Hampshire. Team Romney understands the potential importance of these early primaries – and so do most of their rivals. If Mitt kills the Huckabee dream in Iowa, and terminates the McCain surge in New Hampshire, he becomes the clear front-runner despite any last minute stop-Mitt campaign by Rudy, Fred or others. It therefore makes sense for Romney to place all his chips on the two early states, even to the extent of going negative with saturation TV advertising slamming his major opponents and mailings that make even more distorted and dishonest charges against them. The results in Iowa and New Hampshire will indicate whether his harsh tactics pay off, but there’s at least a possibility that it’s precisely this sort of toughness – this willingness to use his own money to play hardball politics—that will persuade some wavering conservatives that Romney deserves their support.

His aggressive posture toward Huckabee and McCain plays against the image of a pampered patrician who’s never had to fight for anything in his life, and makes Romney look a bit more like the sort of gutty street fighter who could rough-up Hillary or Obama. When wounded candidates complain about negative campaigning by their opponents, they usually sound weak. Romney’s un-secret weapon involves his deep-pockets (with estimated worth of at least $250 million), while his secret weapon involves his apparent willingness to use some of his resources to knee-cap opponents. His passionate, focused, relentless pursuit of the White House may make up for his lack of passion or focus on any specific issue.

MIKE HUCKABEE

Common Misconception: He’s a one dimensional Bible-thumper who can appeal only to Evangelicals in the South and Midwest

Truth: In an election in which the term “elitist” has become a dirty word, Huckabee enjoys a serious advantage as the least elitist candidate of them all: a humble, witty, soft-spoken guy who became the first male in family history to graduate from high school. Romney’s the son of a Governor and auto executive and he studied at Harvard and Stanford (and BYU), McCain’s the son and grandson of prominent Navy admirals; Rudy’s been part of Manhattan high life and the legal power elite for so many years that he’s disconnected from his Brooklyn roots, and Fred’s more associated with Hollywood (and his glamorous young wife) than his hardscrabble upbringing in Tennessee. Huckabee, however, comes across like the ultimate underdog and an ordinary guy – so ordinary, that he even battled (and conquered) a serious weight problem that most Americans can understand. It’s not just Christian zealots who recognize Huckabee as “one of us”; I’ve spoken to non-religious Russian immigrant Jews who love him because he’s down-to-earth, plain-spoken and unpretentious non-celebrity. For the work-hard-to-get-ahead strivers who represent the heart and soul of the GOP, there are obvious, powerful points of identification. In this context, his embarrassing fumbles in reacting to Benazir Bhutto’s assassination haven’t destroyed his campaign: anyone who wanted a candidate with foreign policy credentials would have turned away from Huckabee long ago.

Huckabee’s criticism of stratospheric corporate salaries and unrestrained free trade may offend conservative opinion leaders, but it doesn’t necessarily alienate conservative voters. The fact that he’s such an obvious underdog – deemed unready for the presidency by innumerable pundits of right and left alike – only adds to the sense that he’s connected to the “little guy,” not the elites. Remember, three other Southern governors swept to the presidency with no foreign affairs expertise or credibility: their names were Carter, Clinton and Bush. President Bush famously failed a pop quiz on his knowledge of foreign leaders, but nonetheless managed to relate to salt-of-the-earth Americans. Huckabee, whose only college degree says “Ouachita Baptist University,” not Yale or Harvard, will receive more forgiveness than the current incumbent for wrongly suggesting that Afghanistan is on the eastern border of Pakistan. In any event, his populist campaign has already proven more powerful than anyone predicted, with support that reaches well beyond the “Christian Right.”

According to most polls in Iowa, he’s proven especially appealing to women—with a kinder, gentler tone that puts him in the lead among female voters of all religious persuasions, not just Evangelicals. If he can tie Romney among men, Huckabee can easily win the caucuses. In my own state of Washington – the least churched state in the union, by the way – Huckabee has attracted surprising support and the beginnings of an organization and could easily compete with Romney and Rudy at the caucuses on February 5th, if his campaign is still viable at that point. If he loses in Iowa, however, Huck almost certainly collapses as a national force: facing the obvious question: if he can’t win there, where can he win?

His Secret Weapon: Those Missing-in-Action Evangelicals.

While it’s wrong to write off the Huckabee campaign as a solely religious movement and while his base of support extends well beyond the Christian community, it’s disillusioned Evangelicals who could come back into the political process to help him win early primaries. During his years in the White House, Karl Rove spoke incessantly about “three million missing Evangelicals”: Christian conservative voters who initially intended to vote for Bush but felt disillusioned by last minute 2000 revelations about his drunk driving arrest. These believers ended up staying home and turned a solid Bush victory into a dead-heat with Al Gore. Rove and his boss dedicated much of the first Bush term to drawing these believers to the polls in 2004, and according to many analysts they made the difference in many states (including Ohio and Florida) in providing the President with his margin of victory over John Kerry. Two years later, bitterly disillusioned with the scandal-plagued and spending-crazed Republican Congress, these “Missing Eavangelicals” went AWOL once again and handed the Democrats control of both House and Senate.

They may have been disappointed and disenchanted with Bush over drunk-driving, but they felt utterly disgusted by Mark Foley and Jack Abramoff. If they get energized to re-enter the process in 2008 it can make a huge difference in both the general election and the struggle for the nomination. In caucuses and primaries, an enhanced turnout can easily tip the results and Huckabee has a real chance of reaching first time voters, or infrequent voters, who would come out for no other candidate. If he mobilizes big turnouts from outsiders (motivated by enthusiasm in churches and elsewhere) he could easily appeal to 5 to 10% of the GOP electorate that doesn’t regularly vote in primaries. The conventional wisdom on Huckabee—that his campaign will slide straight down hill after Iowa – may prove as unreliable as the assumption that without major funding he could never become a top tier candidate.

If Huckabee captures Iowa (and with that victory gets his face on the cover of news-magazines and the top of network news) he could conceivably earn January wins in South Carolina, Florida, even Michigan: in all three states, he’s been leading at one time or another in the polls. At that point, he’d be competitive in at least some of the big states that choose their delegates on February 5th. It may be true that Huckabee would have a tough time competing in a general election, but it’s premature to rule out a competitive struggle for the GOP nomination.

RUDY GIULIANI

Common Misconception: His moderate stance on social issues is killing his campaign.

Truth: It’s personality, not policy, that’s damaging his candidacy. Polls show Rudy still drawing strong support from religious conservatives who may disagree with his past positions on abortion, guns, gays, or immigration. They’ve been willing to forgive Hizzoner for his unorthodox attitudes because of his tough-guy image and his heroic leadership after 9/11; other skeptics have felt reassured by Rudy’s consistent shifts to the right on all social issues – his emphasis on appointing strict constructionist judges, establishing border security, promoting adoption and so forth. Meanwhile, it’s been intimate rather than ideological concerns that have slowed the Mayor’s momentum: especially the embarrassing revelations about the peculiar funding of a security detail assigned to protect him while he began the adulterous relationship (with his current wife) that spelled the end of his second marriage. The legal problems of former Giuliani pal and Police Commissioner Bernard Kerik also tainted Rudy’s resolute crime-buster image. Meanwhile, his inconsistent performance in televised debates dented the argument that he alone had the brass and sass to take on Hillary Clinton: when he engaged in a juvenile spat with Mitt Romney over “sanctuary cities” versus a “sanctuary mansion,” Rudy looked petty and mean and small. If a candidate can’t stand up effectively against the genial, smooth Mitt Romney, then he looks vastly less credible as a counterweight to Osama bin Laden, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and other bad guys.

His Secret Weapon: The Primary Schedule For months, the Giuliani campaign has written off Iowa and New Hampshire and it’s increasingly willing to abandon his unlikely contention in South Carolina. According to this strategy, as long as Rudy maintains his strength in national polls, he can afford to let others win the early contests before he grabs Florida on January 29 and then competes successfully in the multitude of big state primaries on February 5th. The surprising strength of Huckabee, Romney and now McCain makes Giuliani’s hold on Florida look more and more tenuous, raising the question of whether he can continue his campaign without winning the Sunshine State, or whether that battle will represent “Rudy’s Last Stand.” Actually, a quick look at the schedule suggests that barring an unexpectedly total collapse of public support, Giuliani will probably be able to compete all the way to the convention.

In part, that’s because February 5th will bring him several “home games” that he can easily win: New York, New Jersey and Connecticut. Best of all, these big Northeastern states (with heavy concentrations of Giuliani’s fellow Italian-Americans, by the way) award their delegates on a “winner take all” basis, while most of the other major delegations will be split among supporters of various candidates. Most of his rivals have already conceded New York and New Jersey to Rudy, and abandoned the field: this means that even if he doesn’t do particularly well in the same day battle royal in California (which splits its delegates based on outcomes in each Congressional district), Rudy will still emerge as one of the big winners of “Tsunami Tuesday.” There’s also reason to believe that his superior organization and strong polling numbers will deliver a rich harvest of California delegates—insuring that after the first stage of the primary process, he’ll either lead the overall delegate count or else stand in second place. In any event, he’ll almost surely accumulate enough support to remain a factor in the nomination struggle all the way to the convention in Minneapolis.

JOHN McCAIN

Common Misconception: His maverick streak may endear him to Democrats and Independents but he can’t win in GOP primaries because he’s not a real conservative.

The Truth: McCain’s conservative credentials are much stronger than his critics realize: the American Conservative Union which rates the voting records of all Senators and Representatives gives him a lifetime rating of 83 (meaning he took the “conservative” position 83% of the time). By comparison, Senator Fred Thompson (who bills himself as “The Consistent Conservative”) achieved a lifetime Senate rating of 86 – hardly a significant difference. To place these numbers in context, consider the many Democratic Senators aspiring to take over the White House: Obama and Dodd get liftetime 8’s; Hillary draws a 9; John Edwards gets a 10 and Joe Biden earns a 14. In other words, John McCain, for all his controversial “independent” tendencies, voted the conservative side 70% more often than even the most moderate Democratic alternative. Moreover, McCain’s positions on the issues about which he’s most passionate—winning the war in Iraq, cutting government spending, promoting school choice, curbing the influence of lobbyists who demand corporate welfare – have not only been courageous but prophetic.

His campaign has revived in part because the surge in Iraq (which corresponds to a strategy McCain began promoting at least four years ago) has been such an obvious and undeniable success. Meanwhile, the long-standing support for immigration reform that was supposed to kill him among conservatives, may actually work in his favor. Obviously, conventional wisdom greatly overestimates the impact of this issue on the electorate in general: if pushing a hard-line against illegal immigrants represented the top priority for most (or even many) Republicans, then Tom Tancredo and Duncan Hunter would be fighting for the GOP lead, rather than dropped-out and irrelevant, respectively. All polls indicate that among both the nation at large and among self-identified Republicans, clear majorities favor a path to legal status for some immigrants who entered this country illegally. Even if you discount all such surveys, it’s still obvious that some of us in the GOP back a more realistic line on immigration than the simplistic “send-‘em-all-home” demagoguery that has so far dominated the campaign.

With four other major candidates (Romney, Thompson, Giuliani and now Huckabee with his laughable “I’ll get rid of all 12 million in a 120 days” proposal) competing for the support of immigration extremists, McCain offers an alternative that will appeal to those who crave more than slogans and posturing (not to mention the crucial 45% of Hispanic voters who supported President Bush in 2004). In any event, his new emphasis on “border security first” has helped to satisfy most voters, excepting of course those angry hardliners who’d never consider backing McCain under any circumstances. His campaign remains under-funded and his age (71) could hurt him in both primaries and the general election, but if the Arizona Senator wins the New Hampshire primary (as he baldly and boldly predicted he will), he becomes an instant contender in South Carolina, Michigan, Florida, Nevada, California and throughout the country. If he loses to Romney in New Hampshire, on the other hand, it’s hard to see how his candidacy survives.

His Secret Weapon: Straight Talk and Stature

Everyone – conservative, libertarian, moderate, liberal, you name it – will find some issues where John McCain’s taken a position that seems maddening, irrational, and utterly wrong-headed. For me, I’m particularly annoyed by his stubborn stands on oil drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Preserve (he’s voted consistently against development of crucial new petroleum resources that would impact only 4% of the total protected ANWAR territory), his opposition to aggressive interrogation of terrorist suspects (even though he provided crucial Senate support for electronic monitoring of their communications), and his refusal to back elimination of the death tax (though he does support raising the total exemption to $10 million and authorizing a modest rate of only 15% on estates above that level—greatly reducing, if not eliminating, the devastating impact of inheritance taxes on family businesses).

The point is that McCain is cantankerous, ornery, opinionated and occasionally courageous. His refusal to pander distinguishes him from most other members of the U.S. Senate and makes him stand out in this year’s field of candidates in both parties. Consider his principled (and altogether admirable) opposition to ethanol subsidies, a deeply unpopular position in Iowa – the first crucial state on the primary calendar. On the air, I’ve asked Rudy and Romney and Huckabee to speak out against this obvious rip-off of public resources, or to endorse desperately needed trims in the appallingly bloated $80 billion budget for the Agriculture Department, but they’ve all refused to touch the issue. Obviously, this craven reluctance relates directly to the prominence of agricultural interests in early primary states (particularly Iowa and South Carolina) so that only McCain speaks truth about today’s farm subsidies: they waste taxpayer money, benefit agribusiness vastly more than they help the family farmer, and need major cuts. There’s something refreshing, even bracing, about the old warrior’s willingness to tick people off and to defy political correctness of both the liberal and conservative variety. Whatever your disagreements with the man, McCain lets you know where he stands – and this propensity for clarity over convenient obfuscation compensates for his quirkiness on many issues. Most importantly, McCain can provide lucid explanations and thoughtful defenses even for decisions that seem outrageous to many. Yes, he voted against the Bush tax cuts (twice) but his logic at the time demanded that they should be accompanied by corresponding spending cuts.

If we cut taxes without cutting spending, he reasoned, then there’d be no popular pressure for spending reduction and, given the general fecklessness of Congress, it would never get done—an argument that proved prescient. Yes, his “Gang of Fourteen” caper frustrated a Republican strategy to strip Democrats of their ability to filibuster judicial appointments. But McCain’s leadership led directly to the confirmation of long-stalled, strict-constructionist Bush-appointees to the appellate courts (including Priscilla Owen, William Pryor, Janice Rogers Brown and, eventually, Brett Kavanaugh). The Gang of 14 also helped make possible the relatively smooth Senate confirmation of Supreme Court Justices Roberts and Alito, and prevented any threat to the filibuster power that is now wielded, crucially, by Republicans who suddenly find themselves in the minority. This background helps explain the truly extraordinary endorsement of McCain’s Presidential candidacy by Joe Lieberman—the number two man on the Democratic ticket a mere eight years ago. McCain’s potential bi-partisan appeal represents no small asset in an era when Americans express weariness at inside-the-beltway bickering. There’s also the matter of stature and historical significance: if Romney, Huckabee, Thompson, Edwards, Obama, Richardson, Biden, Dodd, or most other candidates fail to win their parties’ nomination for national office (now or in the future), they’ll rate scant mention in the history books and make little mark on our national memory.

How much do we recollect the long-term significance of Orrin Hatch or Richard Lugar or Bill Bradley or Paul Tsongas or Lamar Alexander or Harold Hughes, who all made once well-regarded races for the presidency in the recent past? Among current contenders, Hillary’s already earned her historical status for her wildly controversial eight years as First Lady, and Rudy managed dazzling, unforgettable achievements as a transformational mayor of New York City. McCain, however, won his renown on the national stage, without the damaging impact of major personal or political scandal, and his whole story (going back to the famous POW days) gives him iconic and heroic status no other candidate can match. When you ask his Senate colleagues about him, many will confess that they hate his guts but quickly add that they respect his intensity, his dedication, his undiminished fire for his ideals. In any event, Congressional insiders concede that McCain (who indeed seems “McVain” or “McLame” to his detractors) unquestionably qualifies, for better or worse, as one of the most effective and influential Senate leaders of the last fifty years. That prestigious standing won’t matter if he falls short in New Hampshire, but if he comes roaring back into the thick of the race it could help differentiate him from his rivals in the later primaries.

FRED THOMPSON

Common Misconception: As a successful Hollywood actor, he can deploy the charisma and glamour to jumpstart his late-launching presidential campaign.

The Truth: Most pundits proved fatefully and fatally wrong about Thompson’s viability because they don’t understand the difference between a Hollywood leading man and a character actor. Thompson earned a good living and achieved considerable popularity as a character actor, specializing in key supporting roles as gruff, authoritative, take-command officials or officers. He never served as principal star in any movie, or got to play the romantic lead who gets the girl, or the sympathetic protagonist who represents the audience point of view. Ronald Reagan worked for nearly thirty years as a leading man – sometimes appearing in mediocre movies, true, but almost always commanding one of the principal parts and inspiring adulation and affection from legions of fans.

Similarly, Arnold Schwarzenegger (despite his distinctly limited acting range) also qualified as a major star and leading man so that when he suddenly muscled his way into politics, his rallies and public appearances seemed glamorous, exciting, glitzy, even magical. Remember, both Reagan and Schwarzenegger inspired active, devoted fan clubs around the world and drew squeals of excitement from admirers who would wait for hours for the chance to see or touch them. If there ever was a “Fred Thompson Fan Club” based on his appearances in “Law and Order” or “Hunt for Red October,” the members of that club would have constituted a very odd lot indeed. In short, political operators and major commentators foolishly expected enchantment and thrills from Fred’s campaign because of his Hollywood connections, and then expressed disappointment because they got a crusty, aging character actor, not a magnetic leading man.

His Secret Weapon: Low Expectations.

The same way that ridiculously high expectations hurt the early stages of Fred Thompson’s campaign the current low expectations associated with his leisurely race might actually bring him back into contention. There’s only a dim chance for the tall Tennessean to actually bag the nomination but he could come back to center stage for a while with better-than-anticipated performances in the first few primaries. To give new life to the Thompson campaign, he’d need to finish a strong third in Iowa (entirely possible) and New Hampshire (much less likely), then finish first or second in South Carolina (difficult, but hardly unthinkable). If by that time Romney’s been badly damaged or driven out of the race (by failing to win Iowa, New Hampshire or South Carolina) and Huckabee’s struck out in subsequent primaries after capturing Iowa (possible, maybe even probable), then Fred could emerge as the new consensus choice for conservatives who want some alternative to an ongoing battle between Rudy and McCain.

Obviously, several things have to break just right or Fred is, as they say, dead, but politics is full of even stranger stories, and Thompson benefits as an obvious second choice for many people currently invested in Romney or Huckabee. The more likely development involves Fred’s rapid disappearance after flimsy showings in both Iowa and New Hampshire (fourth place or lower in both states). In that case, many observers suspect he would withdraw and, most likely, endorse McCain, a personal friend and one of his closest colleagues from his Senate days (Thompson co-sponsored the dubious and useless McCain-Feingold campaign finance “reform.”). He also might re-emerge as a potential running mate for any of the four front-runners, though Thompson easily could shock the world by turning aside a chance for a term as Veep, preferring a return to his lucrative film career and family responsibilities as the father of young children.

Considering all the misconceptions and secret weapons of the five top candidates, what’s the most likely outcome tomorrow night and through the next two fateful weeks?

Though Romney victories in Iowa and New Hampshire hardly count as certain, they still appear likely, forcing the rapid disintegration of both Huckabee and McCain as viable national contenders-- though they might each score surprise (and largely meaningless) victories later in the season (if they can keep their campaigns afloat). That leaves Rudy with a solid shot at winning truckloads of delegates on Tsunami Tuesday on February 5th and battling Romney through the Spring and, quite possibly, all the way to the convention. That confrontation could become particularly dramatic and riveting if the Democrats settle their nomination in short order (with the expected Hillary coronation by February 5th, at the latest) and the GOP battle emerges as the primary focus of mass media and political junkies everywhere.

In one area, at least, conventional wisdom provides no misinformation: the nomination struggle in 2008 looks exciting, substantive, unpredictable, entertaining, and, in many ways, unprecedented. Happy New Year!

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Fred
When he wins......Choke on it.

Medved
Funny how the only candidate Medved is negative on is Romney. So NONE of Romney's conservatism counts, but McCain gets a free pass on his liberalism as does Huckabee.

Seriously, of all these guys...and there's no doubt they all have their favorites, the one that annoys me the most is Medved, because he pretends to be fair. Hewitt is blatantly biased and you don't expect otherwise. Gallagher tells you what he thinks. Medved pretends he never said what he said, pretends he knows it all.

Medved's objectivity
Is it just me, or do Medved's comments re the GOP race usually come across like they were written by a member of Huckabee's campaign?

Talk about simplistic
Even if you discount all such surveys, it’s still obvious that some of us in the GOP back a more realistic line on immigration than the simplistic “send-‘em-all-home” demagoguery that has so far dominated the campaign."

I must say the continued purposeful mischaracterization many of those that dissagreed with last years immigration bill is rather dissapointing Micheal

When this bill first came up I was for it for several reasons. Yet after discussing it hear on townhall my mind was changed.

It wasnt changed to "send them all home" It was lets build the fence and tighten the boarders. A good effort should be able to do that in 5 years. After the Gov. shows their willingness to do the boarder thing then I am way willing to reform some parts of immigration law. Untill then enforce current law, that doesnt mean you do million man sweeps hunting down every last illegal it means when people run afoul of the law you act in accordence with current law instead of ignoring their existence.

Really I aint crouchy at all about it.

NEOCONS/FOX KEEPING PAUL/HUNTER OUT OF
DEBATES IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. AS OF TODAY, FOX NEWS HAS STATED THAT THEY WILL NOT ALLOW RON PAUL OR DUNCAN HUNTER PARTICIPATE IN THE NEW HAMPSHIRE DEBATES.


I know how deeply Christians care about this country and the direction in which it is going. I also know how vitally important the evangelical vote is and how it has made or broken candidates in the past. Most evangelical and fundamental Christians who vote, and there are tens of millions of them, are registered Republicans. These are the very people the Ron Paul campaign must reach if the Congressman is to have any chance at all in the primaries.

Unfortunately, it's also true that most evangelicals are easily manipulated sheep who blindly adhere to the neocon agenda. After all, these are the folks who put Bush into the White House - twice. The leaders of the so-called Christian right are very much to blame for the ignorance of those under them. The Rick Warrens and Pat Robertsons of the world are neocon to the core. The vast majority of the evangelical community is completely ignorant of Ron Paul, and men like Joseph Farah, Michael Medved and Kevin McCullough are doing all they can to make sure that what little is known of Dr. Paul is negative.



NEOCONS/FOX KEEPING PAUL/HUNTER OUT OF
DEBATES IN NEW HAMPSHIRE! AS LATE AS TODAY THE WORD FROM FOX NEWS IS THAT THEY WILL NOT ALLOW RON PAUL OR DUNCAN HUNTER TO PARTICIPATE IN THE NEW HAMPSHIRE DEBATES. THIS IS SO EVEN THOUGH RON PAUL IS PROJECTED TO DO AS WELL OR BETTER THAN FRED THOMPSON IN THE IOWA CAUCUS.


I know how deeply Christians care about this country and the direction in which it is going. I also know how vitally important the evangelical vote is and how it has made or broken candidates in the past. Most evangelical and fundamental Christians who vote, and there are tens of millions of them, are registered Republicans. These are the very people the Ron Paul campaign must reach if the Congressman is to have any chance at all in the primaries.

Unfortunately, it's also true that most evangelicals are easily manipulated sheep who blindly adhere to the neocon agenda. After all, these are the folks who put Bush into the White House - twice. The leaders of the so-called Christian right are very much to blame for the ignorance of those under them. The Rick Warrens and Pat Robertsons of the world are neocon to the core. The vast majority of the evangelical community is completely ignorant of Ron Paul, and men like Joseph Farah, Michael Medved and Kevin McCullough are doing all they can to make sure that what little is known of Dr. Paul is negative.



NEOCONS HOPING DR PAUL WILL DISAPPEAR!!?
Besides trying to have Ron Paul banned from the debates another tactic these same people use is to ignore Dr Paul.

Ironically, Ron Paul is the conservative Christian's ideal candidate. In Fact, he's too good to be true! The good news is that the right is very much in a state of confusion at the moment, since none of the leading candidates quite fit their concept of a conservative Republican. I believe that if we could wake up the sleeping giant that is the church and educate them about who Ron Paul is and what he is about, many believers would "see the light." If we could get the church behind Dr. Paul, well then we might just have ourselves a President! Don't look to the big shot Christian celebrities to endorse Ron Paul, but do everything you can to reach out to the common church going folks in your community. I'll be doing all I can on my end. Here are a couple of articles related to the subject that you can use in your outreach.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance109.html

http://www.rightsourceonline.com/enews/issue3/three.htm

http://libertyunbound.com/archive/20...christians.html

Disappointment/Medved
Hector Berlioz writes: Wednesday, January, 02, 2008 1:08 AM
Medved


I know Medved will not respond to my post. There was a time when I was convinced that Medved was an objective commentator. I have recently had to revised my opinion.

This started about 3 weeks ago when the "innocent" question posed by Huckabee to the knowledgable NYT interviewer, "Is it true that Mormons believe that Jesus and Satan are brothers?"

I was this as a blatant distortion; Huckabee, as a SBC pastor knew the answer. (He has also BTW supported the belief that Mormons are a "satanic" cult, a fact that if need be, I will document it.)

Back the NYT interview; It was a Friday afternoon, I had just had surgery and was on my way to see the surgeon, so I was pressed for time. I did, however, reach Medved by phone and asked him if he knew where Huckabee was in 1998. Medved replied with his usual self-confidence that Huckabee was govenor and was in Arkansas. I then informed him that Huckabee was a keynote speaker at an anti-Mormon conference in Salt Lake City. Medved said that was impossible, Huckabee was in Arkansas. I insisted that I knew what I said was true. I began to raise my voice, because it was obvious that Medved did not want to hear this. Finally, he said,"send me proof."

Then he hung up on me.

I did that very night; by e-mail, with cc,s to others. The evidence was conclusive! Hickabee was a key speaker in Salt Lake City, home of maybe 1,000 SBC members. The whole objective by the SBC was to confront the LDS Church; and expose them as heretics.

I still have not heard from him; but I will be posting my e-mail to him in the near future.

Incidentally, it appears that the text of Huckabee's speach has disappeared. Interesting?

medved
errata

I was this as

"s/b" This was a blatant....

Ron Paul?
Who is Ron Paul?

Is Mr. Paul listed on GOOGLE?

Clean Air Performance Professionals

Medved e-mail
Michael:

I am a 76 year old with 5 children and 21 grandchildren. My youngest daughter is the joy of my life; she is 24 and is autistic. So it should be obvious that I have great concerns for the future of this nation and the choices we make for our leaders.

I am the caller identified as Dean. I became upset when it appeared, at least to me, that you did not want to hear the point I was trying to make about "Huckabee's misguided intent" in trying to disguise his knowledge that the Jesus vs Satan teaching was something that he did not know about LDS doctrine."

He had to have known about it; it is a constant criticism leveled against the LDS teachings by anti-Mormons. (I was on my way for a blood test so I didn't hear your response after you hung up on me; I probably was the recipient of some measure of chastisement(?)).

Huckabee did address the SBC in Salt Lake in 1998.

"Huckabee, governor since 1996, is a former president of the Arkansas Baptist Convention. He has authored one other book, Character is the Issue: How People with Integrity Can Revolutionize America , which was first publicly announced at the 1997
Other books given to reporters at the convention Sunday included a how-to boycott book aimed at the Walt Disney Co. by Richard D. Land titled Sending a Message to Mickey: The ABC's of Making Your Voice Heard at Disney. The back cover features an outline of the famous mouse's round ears and the words: "He who has ears, let him hear."
The other book was "Mormonism Unmasked" by R. Philip Roberts, who examines the beliefs of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints."

This article was published Monday, June 8, 1998.

medved e-mail final
The book passed out at the same convention by Roberts was reviewed on Amazon as follows:


Mormonism Unmasked, January 31, 2006
By H. L. Crumpler -


This book does an excellent job of explaining and proving why Mormonism is a great religious deception. The book provides ample evidence and wisdom for true Christians to use for witnessing to Mormons. I wish every Mormon could read this book and see that what they have been taught are fallacies that put their eternal salvation in danger. They must realize that Joseph Smith and every one of his successors are false prophets. They must realize that their views of Christianity and the Godhead are inconsistent with what the Apostles of Christ taught and that the great apostasy lies within their church and not the holy catholic church-church universal."

I add:

It s/b obvious that Huckabee was complicit in the attack; ok, that's right. But to protest that he did not know what Mormons taught is pure Hypocrisy. (sp)

Immigration
Mike you down played this far too much. If McCain gets the nod it wont be because we support him but rather that he will be the last man standing.

The Immigration issue is HUGE! It is a bigger threat to our Republic than Terrorism or anything else. You must have selective memory on this issue if you think most Americans want a path to citizenship because it does not take much to look back and see the massive backlash from the public over Bush/McCains big Amnesty deal they tried to ram down our mouths.

You think its absurd to say we will deport them all? Think again! Just look at some border states now that are enforcing the laws! Its a mass exidus back to their motherland! If we go after the people who hire and house the illegals, they deport themselves. Its THAT simple.

I always love your articles but on this issue you are dead wrong.

Medved is Too Nice to Romney
What I mean is, there really isn't anything at all appealing about Romney lately, certainly not some willingness to "get tough". All that's resulted from that tactic is a bunch of lousy, politics-as-usual, dishonest attack-ads against guys I kinda like: Huchabee and McCain. They were both running inspiring ads during the holidays, while Romney was slinging the mud - very un-presidential and desperate looking to me. The fact that Romney is willing to spend his own millions on that crap only makes me question his judgement. His money makes him seem like a snobby elitist trying to buy an election, not a tough "street-fighter."

I liked how Romney answered for his flip-flop on the life issue during the YouTube debate. He simply said that he was wrong in an honest, genuine sort of way. For once in his campaign, we actually got a peek at the thoughtful, human side -- not the programmed, perfect-hair panderer.

If Romney can ever show me that he actually stands for something based on convictions and not poll data, then he'll have a shot at winning me back. Until then, he'll always be my last-picked, no matter how much money he spends sliming his rivals.

And if it's true that the media focus will be on the GOP after Feb. 5th, then I hope, as a party, that Republicans can somehow manage to present a more appealing vision beyond "juvenile spats", immigration demagoguery, mud-slinging, and phony-ness. Then again, the media hates Republicans, so they'll probably just try to find a hidden cross in every commercial...

Please take a second to watch this.
This video is very good and shows Mitt Romney's going back and forth on the abortion issue.

Romney was for it big time, then against it, then for it, then against it.

It is interesting for people to see that he has claimed to change to being pro-life before, only to return to being pro-choice when it would help him out politically.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7y1HMZNJy0

Watch the video please.

there are only two canidates
Paul and Rudy.
Paul if you are pro American. Rudy if you are pro American Dominance.
Mitt Has nothing Rudy does not have, and neither does Huck.
Rudy will be tougher and better on the war and is atleast as conservative as the other two choices.
Ron Paul will be the only one that will put the middle class first. Because he values the Constitution and not big government.
All other conservative canidates want to cut taxes because they have a beleif that it raises revenue.
Not because they want to restrict government but because they think they gorw it more efficiently than democrats.

Medved Unmasked Again
i have to agree about medved's lack of objectivity... he should just acknowledge his own bigotry and move on . . . his categorical conclusions that mitt's religion is no longer relevant fly in the face of poll after poll . . .

Romney's true colors appear....

Mean and Money - lots of both.

It can get you what you want in what is left of the Massachusetts GOP but I doubt it will help on the national level.

I supported Romney back in '94 - even though it was the incarnation that championed just about everything I disagreed with - because he was a Republican.

Not anymore. And TeamMitt's tactics won't play well in places that have stable GOPs that can neither be bought nor bullied -- and I doubt Romney even knows how to win folks over with logic....

Thompson/Hunter '08
nuff said

sir aslan
Ron who?

BWAAAAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Huck's Believers vs Romney's Followers
People in Iowa get tired of attack ads but Romney did it anyway, over and over against Huck, then he went after McCain, assuring that Mac is Back now in New Hampshire. Mean Mitt's problem is the pre-election deal with Drudge and Coulter and Rush (need I go on) is not working out so well. They thought (and did they bet in the Vegas pools?) that with their support we sincere social conservatives (instead of those former social conservatives) would lose out. But Huck has belivers who would martyr themselves.. not mere paid volunteers like Mean Mitt has.

big five, nice try
Mr. Medved obviously wants to ignore that Ron Paul raised 20 million dollars this past quarter (if it were Huckabee who did the same would he get so ignored). I cannot believe the ignorance of the conservative writers and TV commentators out there. Will everyone but Lou Dobbs and Tucker Carlson continue to live in denial that the Ron Paul movement is for real. I cannot wait to see how you all spin the story once all of Ron Paul's dedicated supporters start showing up to caucus and the exit polls start shocking the world. Liberty will not lose. Ron Paul 2008!

JUST the FACTS!

1. The column is about the misconceptions of THE G.O.P. BIG FIVE!

2. ron paul is NOT among the TOP G.O.P BIG FIVE!

3. The paulists are NOT good losers!






Hey Tom
with all those millions of dollars, Paul could be a front runner. By the way, I have not seen any polls lately. Is Ron Paul leading the GOP now? Just curious.

Well I see the Neo-Con advocate
Michael Medved is trying to manipulate the vote just to put another RINO in the oval office.

John Bolton just pointed that, "Our foreign policy of micromanaging the internal affairs of Pakistan has led to the breakdown of command and control...and leaves the security of her nuclear weapons uncertain"

This time our policy of interference has caused a nuclear crisis, Michael.

Why are your candidates not addressing this issue Michael? What about the actual state of our economy. Why are your top-tier candidates avoiding the GAO reports Michael? Why havent'e we heard about these reports on Fox News or CNN Michael?

David Walker, the Controller General of the GAO (Government Accounting Office) made a speech last week in which he showed us the reality of our economy.

The fact is each and every household within the U.S. owes Uncle Sam $411,000.00, each individual owes $117,000.00 just to cover our unfunded liabilities to unconstitutional laws passed by a traitorous congress with blessings from the oval office. You can view the speech here:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=KjZBOCAgR64

Tell me Michael, why do the candidates on your "allowed" list not discuss the most relevant issues facing our nation?

wayward1, USN Ret.

Thompson: the nonpolitical pol?
Do you think this is why Thompson is going down in the polls?

Fred Thompson told campaign audiences here Sunday that he wants badly to be president but isn’t motivated by “personal ambition.”

After being blasted for remarks he made earlier in the weekend about “not being consumed by” politics, he insisted on the Sunday talk shows that those remarks were taken out of context. He went on to make the same nuanced distinction at campaign stops throughout Iowa.

“[The media] talk about who has got fire in his belly,” Thompson said at his first campaign stop Sunday at a brewpub in Ames. “And I don’t have personal ambition to be president. I’ve got ideas of what to do as president. That frees [me] up to speak my mind,” he added.

READ MORE

http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/thompson-the-nonpo litical-pol

I see the Neo-Con Advocate
Michael Medved is trying to manipulate the vote just to put another RINO in the oval office.

John Bolton just pointed that, "Our foreign policy of micromanaging the internal affairs of Pakistan has led to the breakdown of command and control...and leaves the security of her nuclear weapons uncertain"

This time our policy of interference has caused a nuclear crisis, Michael.

Why are your candidates not addressing this issue Michael? What about the actual state of our economy. Why are your top-tier candidates avoiding the GAO reports Michael?

David Walker, the Controller General of the GAO (Government Accounting Office) made a speech last week in which he showed us the reality of our economy.

The fact is each and every household within the U.S. owes Uncle Sam $411,000.00, each individual owes $117,000.00 just to cover our unfunded liabilities to unconstitutional laws passed by a traitorous congress with blessings from the oval office. You can view the speech here:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=KjZBOCAgR64

Tell me Michael, why do the candidates on your "allowed" list not discuss the most relevant issues facing our nation?

wayward1, USN Ret.

jcdean1978
Guess what? I do not care what religion you practice, I do not care how tall you are, I also do not care who does your hair! What I do care about is that you were SPOT ON!
Well said, and my personal belief is the people running for POTUS better take notice of what you are saying, in fact many of us are saying the exact same thing!
Save act now, then close and secure the border! They will choose to go home on their own.
P.S. you flippers are too late to pay lip service to we the voters!

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.html
Free Ramos and Compean
If we can’t have HOME SECURITY first, the rest just won’t matter!
http://fred08.com/
http://vets4fred.net/
NO MORE HOLDING OUR NOSE AND PULLING THAT LEVER!!
VOTE FOR A REAL REPUBLICAN!! NO MORE RINO’s!!!

It is bad enough...
...that you keep company with other media elite-globalists in the Ivory Tower. Are you at least working your way up in rank from throwing garbage down from your lofty window?

We can swim you know...

http://www.ronpaul2008.com

Anne???
Based upon what? The "national polls"? We know how they are conducted. Do you?

Attendees at the last GOP primary with land lines. Care to guess the percentage showing?


wayward1
I owe the government $117,000.00? Thats it, I'm leaving the country before Uncle Sam wants to collect from me... I better tell the family also. I don't think they know this either.

SSGT
LOL All I can say is, like getting blood from a rock! They do not have debtor’s prison right? LOL

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.html
Free Ramos and Compean
If we can’t have HOME SECURITY first, the rest just won’t matter!
http://fred08.com/
http://vets4fred.net/
NO MORE HOLDING OUR NOSE AND PULLING THAT LEVER!!
VOTE FOR A REAL REPUBLICAN!! NO MORE RINO’s!!!

SSGT
Have you read the GAO reports? Go to their website or watch the video that they have released and you will discover what I pointed out.

Are you afraid of finding out the truth?

Our unfunded expentitures, in which we borrow money from the Chinese to pay for the war, medicaide, medicare, social security and all the pork spending is leaving our next generation in a state of perpetual poverty. The FED is printing out money in a effert to thwart a repression however this can be sustained for only so long until our economy collapses because our dollar gets weaker each passing second. A deevaluation of curreny is the worst form of taxation.

Read the reports SSGT. Then ask yourself why Medved's candidates wont even discuss this issue. The ones who do address these issues are written off by the MSM.

McCain the Conservative?
He may have an 83 life time rating but you should see the 17 that he missed and the side he was sitting on some of the time. McCain-Feingold ought to get a 1,000+ weighting is the voting was weighted by the raters. And how about teaming up with Kennedy, the red-nose overweight from Messechusettes. Those things ought to have gotten him a special seat on the Demo side at the Senate. And what about the little issue of illegals overcoming his home state? Anyone from Arizona ticked off at McTreason?

Dang, Michael...
I'm convinced you just love to hear yourself speak. I am sick and tired of your (and others') blatant derogatory treatment of the smartest and most honest candidate running: Ron Paul.

With the coming depression/recession of 2008, which will be caused by neocon spending policies of war and more war and big government overspending, you and your ilk will find yourselves complicit in the fall of this great nation. You are doing a disservice to Americans by ignoring the one man that has thoughtful solutions to clean up the mess.

I recommend everyone look past the insults of Michael Medved and friends, and take a good look at Ron Paul and his policies. http://www.ronpaul2008.com

TeeHall
My sentiments exactly. I especially liked "red-nose overweight from Messechusetts". Now who might that beeeee... i got it, Rosie O'Donnel. Nooooo,... Barbra, that's it Barbra....no you said red-nose, not big-nose. Oh, now i see, you said Kennedy. Thanks. I was a bit confused there.

Doc
I won't bother to respond to these Paul nubs, but I wonder if any of them have looked at the IRS quarterly reports of tax revenues breaking record after record. I will let that pay my $117,000.00 for me. I assume you, and the rest of the folks in the US will do that as well.

For all you Paullettes out there

White House 2008: Republican Nomination See also: Rating the contenders


Polls listed chronologically.
? STATE POLLS are in our subscriber area. INFO

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FOX News/Opinion Dynamics Poll. Dec. 18-19, 2007. N=315 Republican voters nationwide. MoE ± 6.

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"If the 2008 Republican presidential primary were held today, for whom would you vote if the candidates were [see below]?" Names rotated. Results from 9/07 & earlier calculated using second choice of Gingrich supporters.

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12/18-19/07
% % % % %
Rudy Giuliani 20
33
31
29
34

Mike Huckabee 19
8
5
5
2

John McCain 19
17
12
12
16

Mitt Romney 11
8
7
11
8

Fred Thompson 10
12
17
16
22

Ron Paul 3
3
1
2
2

Duncan Hunter 2
3
3
1
3

Tom Tancredo 1
1
2
2
1




Stop Mitty for the sake of the country
He is Bush Lite and another neocon dooms the country. BTW I don't like Mitty because he is a liberal. $ 50 tax funded abortions is a naral position. Gay marriage in your state. The Big Dig as a good way to spend federal money. He is a liberal even more than he is a RINO. Actions speak louder than words.

For all you Paullettes out there
REAL
CLEAR
POLITICS

Polling Data
Poll Date Giuliani Huckabee McCain Romney Thompson Paul Spread
RCP Average 12/14 - 12/19 20.5 17.0 16.0 15.3 11.8 4.3 Giuliani +3.5
FOX News 12/18 - 12/19 20 19 19 11 10 3 Giuliani +1.0
NBC/WSJ 12/14 - 12/17 20 17 14 20 11 4 Tie
USA Today/Gallup 12/14 - 12/16 27 16 14 14 14 3 Giuliani +11.0
Rasmussen (Tues) 4 Day Tracking 15 16 17 16 12 7 McCain +1.0


For all you Paullettes out there
is this depressing enough, or should I continue. I know this does not help digesting your breakfast this morning, but you need to know the truth about your savior. He averages 4% in national polling. Keep on with your delusional aspirations. I will live in reality and vote for a good rep for the country.

SSGT
rgr that. and there you go again, hitting them where it hurts. With the facts. LOL

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
If we can’t have HOME SECURITY first, the rest just won’t matter!
http://fred08.com/
http://vets4fred.net/
NO MORE HOLDING OUR NOSE AND PULLING THAT LEVER!!
VOTE FOR A REAL REPUBLICAN!! NO MORE RINO’s!!!

Why is being down to earth
a qualification for president?

When Orrin Hatch ran for president years ago was his mormonism a problem? Is it a problem for Harry Reid as majority leader of the senate?

If Romney, says Kenneth Anderson(of the Hoover institute, a left of center group)has no political ideology ,is he suggesting politics doesn't mean values?

If he is talking about values please note Romney's admirable private life married to the same woman and with 5 succesful sons and is free of scandal.

Note also his very successful business life also free of scandal.

Wouldn't you think there are qualitiesand positions in this man that would be very useful as a president? And he didn't get where he is without being smart, a hard worker, aggressive and full of useful values. Don't under estimate him because of his polite and courteous manner cited by some as "slick".

WE DO Care about ILLEGAL ALIENS
JUST your biased opinion Medved

WE do care about the destruction of this nation
by illegal Aliens:

IN OREGON now you have to speak SPANISH for
serious positions in Education, Law Enforcement, Medical Care Services, etc.

Under PRO Amnesty, PRO Illegals, McCain and
Huckabee this country will eventually become a 3rd world country
it will further depress out wages
drain our National Treasury
and stip citizens of thier rights

McCain and Huckabee need to run for President
of MEXICO

the Iraq war as with all wars is a point in time
the devastation to this nation by illegals
is FOREVER

NO PRO ILLEGALS President NEEDED
SRY

We do NOT NEED PRO Amnesty, PRO illegals
McCain or Huckabee as PRESIDENT

they will turn this country into a 3rd world country in one year

the Iraq war is a point in time as are all wars

UNDER
Democrats
Huckabee
McCain

YOU WILL NEED TO SPEAK SPANISH TO GET A DECENT JOB

Okay, you Paullettes
I could not resist!!!!!!!!

Strategic Vision Has Romney Ahead in Iowa
1/2/08

Republican Candidate IA
Rudy Giuliani 4%
John McCain 16%
Fred Thompson 13%
Mitt Romney 30%
Mike Huckabee 28%
Ron Paul 4%
Duncan Hunter 1%
Other(vol.) 4%
Details Link
Sources Link

Do your own research.....
"If history teaches anything, it teaches self-delusion in the face of unpleasant facts is folly"

- Ron Reagan

WHAT MITT HAS TO OFFER
no idea why FRED is so lazy, he would be 1st

by Default:

Romney WORKED with the international community to save the Olympics from DISASTER: and then presented one of the best events right after 9 /11
and when he left it was cash rich:

He helped build exceptional companies like HOME DEPOT with his venture capital business

HE IS NOT pro Amnesty, PRO illegals and did NOT give illegals special benefits like Huckabee did

The IRAQ war is a point in time as all wars are:
Frankly, the steam is out of it already:

the destruction by PRO ILLGALS PRO AMNESTY
will be forever:

YOU BET WE NEED MEAN AND LEAN in the White house
a KICK BUTT PRESIDENT

NO MORE SUCK UP to illegals, Mexico
NO MORE SUCK UP to terrorists

wayward1
I am doing my own research. It tells me that Ron Paul is to our party, like Dennis Kookcinich is to the whacko party (NOTHING). Now, should I gather some more facts for you, or have you got the picture already?

SSGT
Thanks for pointing out the poll data. It lets us know that we have much to accomplish in providing a true conservative to the public.

Concerning your commment about the IRS data. This reminds me of a conversation I had with a young sailor many moons ago in which I pointed out that just because he had checks in his checkbook, didn't mean he had money in the bank.

Happy New Year!

NO PREACHER in Chief Needed either
WE DO NOT AGREE WITH MEDVED's bias

this country is being devastated by illegals
there is still the war on TERRORISTS
our economy is being driven down

NO MORE CLINTONS giving it away to China
No more panty waist Presidents who suck up
to terrorists, communists, Mexico, etc.

WE DO NEED mean and lean
a kick butt President

WE NEED ENFORCE AND REFORM PERIOD
AFTER
Reagan
Bush I
Bush II
GOD has been kicked out of Schools & public square
Abotions including murder at birth is still legal
now illegal drugs are legal
Child molesters go free
PORN and HATE is "FREEDOM"

sledding is banned in Iowa
dodge ball is banned in the schools
everyone gets a blue ribbon
NO reading is taught, kids are taught HOW TO
birth control pills to 11 year olds

grief: the time has come for "CONSERVATIVE"
principals: make everyone responsible for all of their obligations: PERIOD
and
CITIZENS FIRST

We do not need McCain, Huckabee, the democrats to import more violent criminals
and give free passes to every one of their
shirt tailed relatives and the relatives of thos relatives

WE should NOT have to speak Spanish to get
the great jobs:

Ron Paul
Why do people still send $$$$$ to Ron Paul? He is toast! He is the Republican Dennis Kucinich! He is a blooming idiot!

B2slim writes:
no idea why FRED is so lazy,
and:
HE IS NOT pro Amnesty, PRO illegals and did NOT give illegals special benefits like Huckabee did

First off, do you think Ron Regan was lazy? He also was laid back and did not let people work him into a tizzy. Is Fred is laid back, yes. Is he a statesman, yes. Has he got the right answers, yes. One more thing, he has not flipped and flopped on immigration like mitt!
http://www.trueromney.com/

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/the_immigration_sh owdown.html

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
If we can’t have HOME SECURITY first, the rest just won’t matter!
http://fred08.com/
http://vets4fred.net/
NO MORE HOLDING OUR NOSE AND PULLING THAT LEVER!!
VOTE FOR A REAL REPUBLICAN!! NO MORE RINO’s!!!


wayward1
I am sorry for throwing all that polling data out there for all to see. Ron Paul has a couple of ideas that I agree with, but he is not the answer to the conservative drive that needs to lead this country. JMHO.

Happy New Year to you as well.

And the tax cuts did and are working. So are revenues coming back to the IRS

Huckabee's affa bility is on the surface
I've watched Huckabee very closely and was inclined to support him earlier. Scutiny of his record began raising questions, but what really has turned me off is how mean he can be when the going gets tough. He plays Clintonian style politics. He spurned debating his record and launched personal attacks, accusing an opponent of lies and deceit. Not only that he tried to fuel anti-Mormon bigtory while professing innocence. He makes a big deal of not going negative, after he launches a personal attack on meet the press. I wish the other candidates had his surface affability and sense of humor, ease with deploying a phrase, but I despite Gov. Huckabee's meanness. That's why I can't vote for Huckabee.

Medved's analysis
After reading all the comments, Medved's conclusion isn't any better than anyone else's, and there are a lot of them. Romney is the most liberal candidate. I don't understand why he gets so much support.

B2slim
Medved says illegal immigration is a low priority. Not with you, and not with me, and not with opinion polls. But it is votes that count and votes don't lie. Tancredo is gone and Hunter is at 1 percent. Apparently the illegal immigrant ire is a mile wide and an inch deep. However, the top tier of GOP candidates is starting to give blurry lip service to "no Amnesty". I don't trust the SOBs an inch. Talk is cheap, the record is in black and white. A lot depends, with so many low percentage candidates, on where the 2nd choice is.

SSGT
Good morning!

It is a "balmy" 29* down here, and I'm getting ready to work on the van (vacuum, ArmorAll, Windex)....

The sound you hear is my cowardly whimpering...

Dishonest article
From what I've seen, the recent polls show Ron Paul in the top three in both Iowa and New Hampshire. Therefore, this ridiculous article which seeks to analyze the OTHER leading campaigns is nothing if not flagrantly biased. Moreover, Paul has topped the 4th quarter fundraising totals among Republicans. To ignore him is an embarrassment.

If you don't like a candidate, you can simply say so. This, instead, smacks of editorial dishonesty.

G'morning YLG
we will have a "balmy" 18 degrees for the high here today (5 right now) and it's the first day the sun has been out in over 10 days! I wish I could get some of that globull warming here 8-)

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
If we can’t have HOME SECURITY first, the rest just won’t matter!
http://fred08.com/
http://vets4fred.net/
NO MORE HOLDING OUR NOSE AND PULLING THAT LEVER!!
VOTE FOR A REAL REPUBLICAN!! NO MORE RINO’s!!!

YLG
"YO" deary. Get that space heater cranked up in the old garage. I had my garage as warm as 68* yesterday. The temp outside was 27*/w/chill 5* with that un-name-able "S" word dropping 12 inches of the stuff on us. BURRRRRRR
Love those space heaters!!!!!!

Doc
I talked to my mom this morning, and she said it is currently 57* where she's at. In PR, it's truly balmy, about 80* at my grandma's.

Maybe we should pack up and move.... ;-)


Huckabee is a goner!
The trick he tried to play on Iowans will not succeed. People see through such obvious ploys and find it devious. Mr. Huckabee seems to think a lot of heaven but heaven doesn't think much of deviousness.

Let's put a grown up in the White House! Go Mitt!

YLG/Doc
to make things funnier than that, in 3 days, its gonna be 52* up here. I CAN"T TAKE IT ANY MORE!!!! ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

To Whom It May Concern
I truly believe that the Mexican lobbiests are to blame for the fact that the candidates running on the illegal immigration platform, or have a good plan for illegal immigration, have been deliberately left out of the news as much as possible.

The liberal press, is all for illegal immigration. The Mexican lawyers and lobbiests have hit the place in full force. I can't help but put two and two together, and figure that the anti illegal immigration candidates were left out of the news, so that they wouldn't get attention, and money.

SSGT
Devil-on-a-crutch....THAT'S COLD!!!

Unfortunately, I don't have a space heater, and my van doesn't fit in the garage, what with my hubby's med books and my stained-glass.

Maybe I can get the kids to do it!!!

Medved appears to like McCain
LOL; A thinly veiled hit piece from Medved

Lets add one more to the article;

Michael Medved

Common Misconception: He knows what he is talking about and means what he says. The truth is that none of the pundits has yet to get a handle on the Republican base. They have consistently misjudged the election of 06 and continue to do so now. Medved thinks that McCain is maligned because conservatives say he is a liberal and he is in actuality more conservative than the Lamocrats. He says that McCain has been marginalized only because he was on the wrong side of certain key issues. Duh??? I say Michael; perhaps your nose needs to be pointed in the direction of the coffee pot or you will lose your radio audience.

Let’s look at the specifics since we always bemoan the trolls who come on here and trash the author without specifics to what was said.

MITT ROMNEY

The Republican base has never made a big deal about him being a Mormon. Yes, there have been a few religious zealots who think that Mormons are tools of the Anti-Christ, but they do not represent a significant portion of the conservative base.

The truth is that Romney was a liberal MA Governor and his sudden conversion to conservatism strikes most as pure opportunism.

MIKE HUCKABEE

The real misconception is that he is a bible thumping conservative. Among the media anyone who is not an atheist must be a card carrying member of the “religious right” and in secret has an idol in their basement that is used to venerate their worship of John Birch.

The reality is that Huckleberry is a religious leftist. He likes big government and big taxes. In 1960’s speak he would be the epitome of LBJ.

cont..

pt 2
RUDY GIULIANI

The real misconception is that he is a Republican. He is on the wrong side of every issue that is important to conservatives except the war. In other words, he is a Scoop Jackson Democrat. Somehow Medved has jumped on the same bandwagon as the MSM who think that the “religious right” is some sort of cabal that controls the base of the Republican Party. I suggest that people who think that way move to Europe so they can further investigate the misdeeds of the Priory of Scion.

JOHN McCAIN

Medved says Common Misconception: His maverick streak may endear him to Democrats and Independents but he can’t win in GOP primaries because he’s not a real conservative.

In actuality this is NOT a misconception. McShame has been on the wrong side of key issues for so long that he no longer even knows what a conservative is.

FRED THOMPSON

Medved spews a “misconception” that Fred is thought to be able to campaign effectively because he is an actor. LOL, this is pure BS. Fred became an actor AFTER he became a politician. The real misconception is the continued lies that the pundits spew about Fred being lazy and not having stomach problems. His secret weapon is that people have “low expectations”???? Medved, how long did you have stay up last night drinking mescal to come up with that bit of buffoonery?

Fred is the ONLY conservative in the top tier.

YLG
LOL make them future conservatives, pay for work is how that works. 8()

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Doc
I do pay them, since they know you don't EVER get something for nothing!!

My sister calls it "indoctrination", I call it "hard knocks education".

WHAT A TERRIBLE ARTICLE

.....A few facts liberally sprinkled with personal biases ...

.....I can't believe that you brushed off Huckabee's total lack or understanding of foreign policy by comparing him to three former Southern Governors...Carter/Clinton/Bush ...is this supposed to be an endorsement? ...that bumbling trio should be a disqualifier ...

.....I don't understand your criticism of Romney's pragmatism ...a pragmatic President is much preferred over an idealist zealot ...we had two of those (Carter and Bush) ...or an amoral egomaniac (Clinton)...

.....Your critique seems to be favorably biased toward Huckabee and McCain who just happen to be favorites of the RINOs and the LDM (Left Dominated Media) ...I think this says a lot about where you are coming from .....COLOSSUS

for doug
doug writes: "After the Gov. shows their willingness to do the boarder thing then I am way willing to reform some parts of immigration law."

YOU may be, but most of the activists who got the immigration bill killed last year are not.

I've heard lots of them on TH and Michelle Malkin's blog and elsewhere say that they will NEVER support a path to citizenship for the illegal immigrants, not now, not ever, not even if the fence is built and the border is secured. They even want to ignore the Constitution and deport the "anchor babies," even though they are legally all U.S. citizens.

Mr. Medved has it right: There is plenty of support in the GOP base for the nativist position of "Send 'em all home." Anchor babies too.

Doc
Fox News said the Law and Order's first show this year is going to be making fun of Fred Thompson. They said that they will be talking about his tv character as being lazy etc.

So now it's Hollywood against Fred. What should that tell most people? He's conservative, that's what!!

for jcdean1978
jcdean1978 writes: "You think its absurd to say we will deport them all? Think again! Just look at some border states now that are enforcing the laws! Its a mass exidus back to their motherland! If we go after the people who hire and house the illegals, they deport themselves. Its THAT simple."

It's NOT that simple. Many of these illegals have had children born in this country. Those children are U.S. citizens now. They cannot be deported without due process. The result of your policy will be to tear parents away from their young children.

It's interesting how conservatives keep proclaiming their love for originalist interpretations of the Constitution; yet when social conservatives get backed into a corner, they come up with their own unique interpretations and loopholes, and twist the Constitution to accomplish their own agenda.

HOW ABOUT A BREAKDOWN

.....If 47% of voters will never vote for either Romney or Hillary ...are these the same 47% who never vote anyway? .....COLOSSUS

Anti-Mormon Bigotry Not Mitt's Problem?
Baloney! Mitt's "Mormonism" tells us more about how bigotry is alive and flourishing in America. Self-described "lapsed Catholic from Vermont", overstock.com CEO Patrick Byrne (his daddy was a manager for Warren Buffett) said in an interview aired last week on KUED TV and KUER Radio (kued.org) that "anti-Arab and anti-Mormon bigotry are the two socially accepted bigotries in the U.S.". Mr. Byrne said that over the past 18 years since he first came to Utah that Mormons have gone much more than half-way to meet and accomodate their nay-sayers. However, he said, almost no reciprocation has been given to them.

When you read your cherished Bibles, dear Jews and Christians, fast forward two millennia from NT times to now, and you will find that the Pharisees (on the right) and the Sadducees (on the left) are still alive, well, and well-bigoted as they were then against Jesus and his "Christians".

Why does Medved say Mormonism isn't Mitt's problem, and then quote the 47% figure who say they'd never vote for Mitt? They won't vote for him, not because he is a supposed "flip-flopper". Medved's favorite, McCain, has just even in recent months "flip-flopped" on his stand regarding illegal immigrants. Senator McCain, like any adroit politician, has played both sides of the fence for decades, and, more than most.

No. The driving force in the anti-Mitt movement is the same driving force behind the anti-Mormon movement. They (the "Mormons") are too different from the rest of us, and so, we must not give their doctrine any credence by electing one of them.

Medved's, like David Brooks', early liberalism becomes evident, as they retreat to generally scorn and dismiss Romney's supposed hyper-extended political plasticity. No successful politician ever gets elected without saying and conveying "I'm just like you!"

Viv writes:
=The reality is that Huckleberry is a religious leftist. He likes big government and big taxes. In 1960’s speak he would be the epitome of LBJ.=

Dead wrong. Why don't you do your homework?

YLG
the "S" word is here again! Does you grandmother have any extra room in PR? UGHHHH

nanna writes:
So now it's Hollywood against Fred.

Shoot, that’s a badge of honor IMO LOL

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SteveL
Enforce the law. The illegal immigrants can endure the results of breaking it, or go home to avoid punishment. If they go home they can take their children with them, or make arrangements for the kids to stay here. If they don't make arrangements for their children, the govvies take over. What is so complicated? In every case, the children are better off born here than in the parents' native land.

vic's take
Some good points vic, but you said "Romney was a liberal MA governor...". In fact, he was "Governor in liberal MA". Romney was as conservative as possible in one of America's most liberal states.

Look, ALL of our guys have some good traits. But I'm one of those guys Hewitt calls an "Al Davis Republican": "Just win, baby..."

Romney has succeeded in every venture he's ever been involved in, and his demonstrated toughness in the past few days shows me that he's got the cajones to go up against the Clinton Machine (and more than enough to beat Obama).

Plus, Fred makes Hillary look young and vibrant, while Mitt makes her look old and shrill.

Draqon writes:
Viv writes:
=The reality is that Huckleberry is a religious leftist. He likes big government and big taxes. In 1960’s speak he would be the epitome of LBJ.=

Dead wrong. Why don't you do your homework?

Unnn it does not take much homework to find out huckary is a rino, why don't you do a little?

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SSGT
Get in line, buddy!

Her house is the size of a matchbox, but there is roof access.... Kinda like camping, but with the glare of streetlights.....

Anti_Mormon Kenneth Anderson
Former Mormon weighs in on the relative weirdness of religions
10:26 AM Sun, Dec 16, 2007 | Permalink
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Kenneth Anderson is a research fellow at the Hoover Institution and a professor at American University, Washington College of Law. The essay is in the American Standard, entitled Mormons, Muslims, and Multiculturalism. A nugget:

He writes Anti-Mormon Books, a very stanch opponent ot The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, a number one bigot, just incase you did not know. I can understand why he does not want Mitt in the Whitehouse. Mitt is not corruptible, Or anything like Kenneth Anderson says. THE BIG LIE COMES OUT OF KENNETH ANDERSON’S MOUTH AHD CORRUPT HEART. WHAT A STUPID STUNT. IT IS SIMPLY A FRAUD.

This is not something That I call Honest Journalism Michael. You may not have known. This man is really the weird one, and will not get any kicks our to this stunt.

VIC

.....While brushing off Huckabee's lack of qualifications on foreign affairs ...Medved failed to mention that Condi Rice put Fred Thompson on a committee to advise her on foreign policy ...

.....It is a shame that the polls show McCain running third in Iowa with Thompson at forth ...I cannot understand those numbers unless Iowans just like RINOs better than true Conservatives .....COLOSSUS

Medved Wrong On Immigration
Giving amnesty to 15 million new Democrats will change America into a socialist welfare state. It will also attract another 10-15 million for the next amnesty.

Severely punish employers who hire illegals and most illegals will self deport and not come back.

Amnesty is a poison pill that will destroy our republic.

I'm suprised that such an intelligent person can be acting so destructively on this issue.

auvox
I don't really want anyone who is paying "lip service" like mittary. For your consumption.

http://www.trueromney.com/

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/the_immigration_sh owdown.html


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YLG
Don't forget, I was in the Marines. I can sleep anywhere, thru just about anything! Streetlights, Schmeetlights.

Ssgt-YLG-Doc-Vic-Anne
In my travels over the holidays, I saw some examples of Runt Paul spending ALL THAT MONEY that the ALCOAettes have been sending him. In Maryland, he has a truck with his picture and ‘Ron Paul for President’ driving around the state. In the Midwest, he has the same thing on a blimp flying over areas where there are more cows than humans. In Washington State, I saw a logging road LINED with ‘Ron Paul for President’ signs.

When squirrels see Ron Paul, they see a SMORGASBORD!

SSGT
How about insects the size of sanitation trucks?

Fleas, lice, and vilarsia?

Screaming kids at all hours?

And worst of all, my GRANDMOTHER???

The Only Weapon Against Fraud is Truth
Is this how goodly honorable persons serve God. Well as far as I can see these are serving the Father of Lies, the unholy god of this world, the devil of devils and their reward lurks from beneath

The sorrow that I feel because of the evil you portray, in an attempt to destroy one of God‘s creation through this deception. Let God be your judge but I want to make it very clear that you must repent or you will be cut off. For thus it is when we do evil, we cannot do anything good and we become captives or that infernal world of eternal damnation. You have taught me a great lesson, and how much you need our prayers and good will, and the love of God which is bestowed unto the humble who repent and put their trust in a God of truth, honor and virtue. As a brother I rebuke your action and pray you will forgive me for putting you to open shame. You will find, that “wickedness never was happiness.”

YLG writes:
How about insects the size of sanitation trucks

LOL tnx for reminding me of my first R+R in Manila. I had to fight a very large bug for the bed that night. It took a while, but I won that fight! Kind of reminds me of TH when wobbie and HaL D comes out to play. LOL

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If we can’t have HOME SECURITY first, the rest just won’t matter!
http://fred08.com/
http://vets4fred.net/
NO MORE HOLDING OUR NOSE AND PULLING THAT LEVER!!
VOTE FOR A REAL REPUBLICAN!! NO MORE RINO’s!!!

YLG, et al
Thank you for moving off that d*mned jammed Paul thread. It was getting tiresome scrolling to read your posts.

Doc
Of course you won. Was there ever a doubt you would not??

Of course, after my "encounter" with the assassin beetle in my kitchen, I wasn't about to fight it to the death. I had my kids to think about... ;-)

Romney v Huckabee and McCain
MIKE, I hope you will give this some ink tonight or on your next Radio Talk Show.

HUCKABEE is slicker the 'Slick Willy' ever was. Here's some real news about the REAL HUCKABEE. Please see the links below. May be a bit late for IOWA but, this should be seen by ALL voters. HUCKABEE violated Arkansas law.
Semper Fidelis,
Jason

http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/002611.html

http://illegalprotest.com/2007/12/17/gilchrists-endorsement -of-huckabee/

http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/11/minuteman-project-foun der-endorses-huckabee/

Savage99
What the Hades are you talking about?? I'm still over at Limbaugh's!! I gave up on that thread yesterday, right before you stated you were having problems with it!

hey
Gotta run and see pops be back later 8-)


baseballdoc
it would be a shame if I believed in polls. In addition, I don't give Iowa much credit as a bellwether State anyway. The only people who have won their primaries and went on to win the Presidency were Reagan, Bush, and Clinton who were unopposed in the caucus. (To my recollection)

I feel the same way about New Hampshire, except that in the last few years they have trended far to the left. I think that the first real test of the electorate on both the left and the right will be in South Carolina.

Now The Truth And It Will Make Us Free
Tenore2 writes:
Wednesday, January, 02, 2008 1:55 AM
Disappointment/Medved
Hector Berlioz writes: Wednesday, January, 02, 2008 1:08 AM
Medved
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Michael Medved is obviously anti-Mormon himself. We will never be against anyone in this fashion, but ignorance, vanity, greed and hunger for power changes people. "There is no power but of God," which is found in the truth.

It was Cain that through deception killed his brother, and the spirit of Cain once again is manifest here.
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Mike Huckabee will never be president, even if he wins Iowa. He will be cut to pieces because of his ethics violations in AR. He is number 6, of the 10 most wanted Politicians. He earned this when he was Gov. the facts follow.

Why I would not vote for Mike Huckabee

"6. Governor Mike Huckabee (R-AR): Governor Huckabee enjoyed a meteoric rise in the polls in December 2007, which prompted a more thorough review of his ethics record. According to The Associated Press: “[Huckabee’s] career has also been colored by 14 ethics complaints and a volley of questions about his integrity, ranging from his management of campaign cash to his use of a nonprofit organization to subsidize his income to his destruction of state computer files on his way out of the governor’s office.” And what was Governor Huckabee’s response to these ethics allegations? Rather than cooperating with investigators, Huckabee sued the state ethics commission twice and attempted to shut the ethics process down. "

http://judicialwatch.org/judicial-watch-announces-list-wash ington-s-ten-most-wanted-corrupt-politicians-2007

WE DON'T NEED A MAN LIKE THIS IN THE WHITEHOUSE

YLG
Don't taser me, Hon. I'll be good.

And if i can't be good, i'll be careful.

Huckabee is no McCain
Huckabee is against amnesty and against the dream act. He wants to build the fence. He is against drivers licences for illegals, he is against sanctuary cities.

Huckabee understands what all of us came to understand during the amnesty debate. You have to stop the flow of illegal aliens first.

I'm voting for Huckabee.

Savage99
We women of a conservative bent reserve the tasers and catleprods for the likes of il roberto, t r, and such pathetic trolls....

Obviously, you are NOT in that category, but as a reminder, when women get in a fight, remember to stand back, and not get involved... ;-)

Huckabee and ethics
Of course he had ethics charges filed against him, he was a Republican governor in Clintonland. Romney is alright, but his supporters act more like Hillary supporters than Republicans.

Michael Medved: Misconception, Truth ..,
Misconception: that Michael Medved is commentating on behalf of conservative Americans and not for the monied, powerful elites that also are the minority of Americans and others who benefit from candidates such as McCain and Giuliani who support issues that hurt Americans economically and more importatly, hurt our way of life.

Truth: Michael Medved supports exactly the kind of candidates that grassroots conservatives active on the internet and working hard to get and stay informed informed have solidly rejected.

The Spin by Medved: All of this talk about elites and elite organizations working to further their own agenda is conspiracy theory and just plain crazy.

The Unspin: If one looks at the history of the world and how elites have always grabbed control, the odds of the existence of elites working together and at odds with the common people are far higher than the other way around.

His Secret Weapon: The money, power, and influence of the elite that benefits from what Michael Medved is doing for them as a spokesman in conservative media is very powerful indeed.


Not Surprising
Neo-conservatives and Jewish "conservatives"(Medved is both) tend to be social liberal or moderate, support high Third World immigration, and support American military involvement in Middle East affairs so that Israel may be safer. It is not surprising that they support John McCain and Rudy Giuliani for president as those two men conform to the neo-conservative and Jewish conservative world view. But it is not a world view conservatives should support.

The thing about 'Character Actors'...
Is that they tend to just play 'themselves'.

Think about that.

- MuscleDaddy

MuscleDaddy
I like Fred's Style! He is what he is and makes no bones about it!

Georgetwin,
Precisely.

It's the only role he's any good at.

... as opposed to some others, who can be whoever they want, whenever they want, then drop it to the dust a heartbeat later and never look back.

- MuscleDaddy

Who doesn't like Huck???
Jeff Fuller put together a complete list of prominent conservatives who don't seem to like Huck right here:

http://www.mymanmitt.com/mitt-romney/2007/12/huck-bust-is- coming.asp

If Huck truly were conservative, I think this list would be much, much shorter.

I guarantee Huck does not become the 44th President.

Come on wih met end it
ormons beleive if you pary to get a warm fuzy feeling got will grat it to you, inorder for you to know the truth.
If this guy is going put his and his family eternal destiny on the line over a feeling, how do you think he will handle foreing policy and social issues.
He alone chose to believe mormonism no one forced him. He alone reeps the consequences.

MuscleDaddy
If you notice, it is the Elitist Journalist Types who denigrate Fred. 90% of My Family is in Appalachia and THEY LOVE FRED!

Where do Huck-a-Maniacs get off????
Oh it's been just fine to slander Mitt and his religion, say every dirty and nasty thing they can in an attempt to support their guy Huck and attack Mitt. Now they are out calling Mitt the mean guy? WHAT?
Huck has been running his gossip and slander campaign in every cheap and whispered way he can. "oh mr. NYT reporter is it true..." "oh gathered room full of reporters I was gonna run this ad but I won't but just let me show it to you all..." "oh and btw have you read all the stuff we have on the wall attacking Mitt" and now his adviser out there admitting he would like to knock Mitts teeth in. Come on, who's mean and who is acting grown up in this whole thing.
Consider also that Huck can't win anywhere else but Iowa. He wouldn't even be where he is if it weren't for all the preachers preaching the Hucka-siah. And the MSM and Democrats leaving him all alone and not saying a word. What would be his ground game in the other states in a general election? Meet with all their pastors? While Democrats can get away with fund raising in churches the minute the Rep. candidate tried to it would be over. Huck is a 1 hit wonder even if he wins in Iowa. He is the other sides dream candidate and don't think that all his sermons and dirt won't come flying out if he ever got the nomination.
Huck, the candidate, should scare us all as much as his foreign policy.

NO-NO-NO
The very first poster in this thread (Robert) has posted the scariest thing I have read in years.

"A victory for Huckabee in Iowa
and McCain in NH is a victory for a new GOP."

The above is a direct quote. What scares me is the part where he references 'victory for a new GOP'. This country does not need a new GOP, what it needs is a Ronald Reagan GOP.

The old GOP is based on the core principles of Conservatism and that's where I think this country needs to go. Whatever this 'new GOP' is, I want no part of it.


Derek
With all due respect, you have no idea what a Conservative is.

Lesson #1. Fred and Duncan are the only 2 Conservatives in the GOP, but Duncan has no money and no organization.

That leaves Fred as the only viable Conservative running. Thank God for Fred!

Con4fred
Don't sweat Robert. If you put Robert's brain in a thimble, it would rattle around like a Ball Bearing in a Boxcar!

Iowa Eve etc
You call Romney the Mittster, why not Huckabee the Huckster?

You describe Romney as an empty suit, lacking passion or focus and he knee-caps his opponents.

You say that Huckabee will bring us a kinder-gentler society---that's the last thing we need!
We want a society based on individual initiative with less government.

Romney is dedicated to free-market capitalism.

Huckabee's basic message is "vote for me I'm an evangelical" or "I'm the Christian candidate."
Ann Coulter has it about right---it's mostly secular liberals who love Huckabee. They love him because he fits their image of what an evangelical should be--stupid and easily led.

I've followed you for years, Michael, and I thought you possessed a degree of perspicacity.
Your political love affair with Huckabee has shown my judgment of you to be wrong.

I'll never listen to you again with the same degree of respect I had in the past.

Best wishes,

Bill Bingham
Phoenix, Arizona

Iowa Eve etc
You call Romney the Mittster, why not Huckabee the Huckster?

You describe Romney as an empty suit, lacking passion or focus and he knee-caps his opponents.

You say that Huckabee will bring us a kinder-gentler society---that's the last thing we need!
We want a society based on individual initiative with less government.

Romney is dedicated to free-market capitalism.

Huckabee's basic message is "vote for me I'm an evangelical" or "I'm the Christian candidate."
Ann Coulter has it about right---it's mostly secular liberals who love Huckabee. They love him because he fits their image of what an evangelical should be--stupid and easily led.

I've followed you for years, Michael, and I thought you possessed a degree of perspicacity.
Your political love affair with Huckabee has shown my judgment of you to be wrong.

I'll never listen to you again with the same degree of respect I had in the past.

Best wishes,

Bill Bingham
Phoenix, Arizona

I was gone for a while
Had to get my daily dose of Rush. He had been gone over Christmas and New Years, so I was anxious to hear him today.

Huckabee supporters kept calling in. He tried to tell them that Huckabee is no consevative. He said he is tired of people putting a new face on conservatism. That they are willing to let a candidate get by with having one or two conservative views, but not all of them. It takes them all to make a true consevative, and none of the Republicans, except maybe one, is a real conservative.
He kind of tore up McCain today, too.
It was good to hear him again, I was having withdrawl symptoms.

HAWK

.....Huckabee will not win the nomination but right now he is taking votes away from Thompson and this only helps McCain who has become the media darling again as the Huckster begins to slip ...

...QUIZ:

...1. Who voted against drilling in Anwar?

...2. Who voted against the Bush tax cuts and would repeal them if elected President? ...

...3. Who calls waterboarding torture and would prohibit it as an interrogaton tool?...

...4. Who co-authored a Bill that takes away free speech rights? ...

...5. Who co-authored a Bill that would have granted amnesty to millions of illegal aliens? ...

...6. Who was in favor of closing Guatanamo and bringing all prisoners into the federal Judicial system with full Miranda and Haebus Corpus rights? ...

...7. Who joined with the Democrats to block Bush's judicial appointsments? ...

...8. Who calls himself a Conservative but is the biggest RINO in the Senate? ...

.....COLOSSUS

Who Will Pass Kennedy-Kyl in '09?
John McCain, if he's elected president.

Colossus/baseballdoc, here's the answers
Answer:

1. The same senator who refuses to pander to the agri-industrial special interests.

2. The same senator who opposed GOP spending increases that cost them their majority.

3. The same senator that was tortured and interrogated.

4. The same senator that took away countless millions of soft money away from the Democrats and gave the Republicans a huge spending advantage in the 2004 election.

5. The same senator that whose positions are supported by a majority of Republicans, Americans, and would increase the Latino vote instead of driving them further into the Democrats' pockets.

6. The same senator that supports the Bill of Rights and, as previously mentioned, was imprisoned and tortured in a time of war.

7. The same senator who ended the congressional deadlock, got conservative judges appointed, and kept the ill-thought out "nuclear option" out of the now Democratic majority's hands.

8. The same senator that's done the most for ungrateful Conservatives and Republicans and yet manages to be the the most electable candidate of all the Republican hopefuls.

I hope this answers your questions.

Likely President
I'll take Romney .He is the most Qualified for the position.
AS my red neck buddy said, He ain't a preacher, He ain't A movie star, He's just smart and that's my next President.
Check out His Record in Gov. and that will tell you whom is the most QUALIFIED.
Earnheart From S.C.

Likely President
I'll take Romney .He is the most Qualified for the position.
AS my red neck buddy said, He ain't a preacher, He ain't A movie star, He's just smart and that's my next President.
Check out His Record in Gov. and that will tell you whom is the most QUALIFIED.
Earnheart From S.C.

One other question that I
have is why Fox continues to push this stupid idea that Bloomberg is going to run as a third party candidate.

Do they think that that will help their candidate RINO Rudy by pulling votes from Hillary? Of course that assumes that RINO Rudy gets the nod which is not a sure thing that all the pundits were thinking a few months ago.

Perhaps it's just Fox being a news agency whose primary purpose is to stir of controversy.

Speaking of stupid third party candidates Ralph Insane at Any Speed Nader has placed his endorsement on Edwards. Hopefully that means when Edwards drops out of the campaign in a few weeks Nader will run as a Green again this year.

Conservatism?
One item that is full prove that a candidate is a true Conservative in the Spirit of the Founding fathers, if he is determined to stop cold the present satanic imperialistic trend this United States is under with Goerge W. speaking and acting just like an Emperor does, with his manhandler Cheney, putting words in his mouth what to say. Be reminded all Emperors never really paid any attention whether borders are secure and whether millions come and some go! In an Empire the whole territory where its military might is in full control, every men women and child becomes a citizen of that Empire. Besides when I as legal immigrant of 52 years and a staunch conservative Republican hears these so called conservative republicans, they all basically claim such, speaking of all that needs immediate fixing, which are really nothing other then Socialism/Communism, by America now claimed as part of free market capitalic encomy while every single of those programs, were truly imposed dictator like, upon the America people by the Federal Gvoernment; never ever put for citizens to vote. Yes, all those Socialistic/Communistic programs have now America fully in bankrupty so deep and getting worse by the day, and yes Communist China now America's favored banker to keep America in reality sinking and sinking deeper and deeper and impossing the greatest financial burden ever upon the next generation. Yes, I lived my younger days under a totalitarian regime and claim to know the difference, actually better than most American born Americans do. Yes, if Ronald Reagan had been immortal and president for life, Russia and the USA would be fully allies and not like now, where America under George W. is driving them back to the cold war times. Mr. Medved what's your response to me?

Fred
Fred Thompson is a funny guy. Does anyone remember that AP story on "things you may not know about the candidates"? Fred said "never been much of a break dancer". True Tennessean.

The Republican Candidates
I wonder if columnists and pundits know any more than the rest of us. Has anyone checked on how accurate their predictions are? If so, are the batting averages posted somewhere?
I am struck by the name calling and the apparent animosity of some responders for other responders. So many do not at all discuss the issues.
I am not sure that all the assumed "facts" were accurate.
As usual instead of having the privilege of voting for the best Republican, I will again have to settle for voting for the least bad. Any of the Republicans except perhaps Ron Paul would be better than any of the Democrats.

You Forgot Ron Paul!
http://puritancrier.googlepages.com

One of many Christians NOT for Huckabee
Hmmmm, let's see....a hypocritical evangelical pastor/entertainer (Huckabee) vs. an experienced, supremely intelligent presidential candidate (Romney). As a nation, we are voting to represent and run the most powerful country in the world. The future of America and the direction it is headed is an extremely important and serious matter. I want the best, most qualified person leading us, not a clownish amateur that doesn't have a clue. I can see why all the respected, true conservative talk show hosts, journalists, bloggers, etc. have come down so hard on Mike Huckabee and John McCain (have you read the list--including Rush Limbaugh's latest statements today) on Iowansforromney.com?). Huckabee's latest wacko mis-statements and publicity stunt fiasco on Monday just reiterates why I'm voting for competence. McCain's just plain mean and is way too liberal.
Go Mitt!

Doc
Doc, you really have not done any homework, either. Huckabee is no more a liberal than the the moon is. Do I have to do your homework for you?

About Romney
He will do anything to smear any candidate (Huckabee and McCain for example) to get the nomination. He has lied about the FairTax, too -- either that or he has been irresponsible enough to not familiarize himself with it. I don't want neither a liar nor an irresponsible man living at 1600 Pennsylvania.

Brog
It wasn't Mccain that helped get a conservative Supreme Court Justice, it was Fred Thompson. They called him in to help.And help he did. Just as he helped wihen called in by Condi Rice for help on foreign affairs.

McCain was a prisoner of war, and he is respected for that. But he is NO Conservative!! In no way is he a conservative.

Be sure you guys to read the blog from TH. That is an open letter from an Arkansas minister. He is writing what he knows about Mike Huckabee!!
Very enlightening, for the Hucksters out there.


medved
so medved does not know that Huckabee was the keynote speaker at the 1998 convention in SLC to bash mormons?

He either does not know or does not want to know? Or perhaps he does not want YOU to know. Or better yet he DOES know and agrees with HUCKABEE on the matter, but wants him to be elected in spite of his lies to everybody about "don't know much about the mormons"...

Medved.... dude,,, considering what you will lie to us all about concerning your knowledge about HUCKABEE...

Your hitpiece on mitt now makes perfect sense. (for you anyway)

Please don't pretend to be fair and objective from here on out...
It's not BECOMING of you.

I'm for Fred
but I think McCain will actually end up winning. Once it becomes clear that Hillary will win the Dem nod, I think a lot of second guessing as to who can definately beat her will take place. With a lot of independent support, I think McCain will be portrayed as the most likely to win and we will all swallow our bitter pill.

SteveL This hasnt been my experience
"YOU may be, but most of the activists who got the immigration bill killed last year are not."

I have yet to see any polling data on the idea that the majority of the people who were against that bill wanted sweeping roundups and immediate deportation of all 8-20 million.

What I have seen is many Republicans, and demeocrats do the very same thing Mr. Medved did in this article. Which was to assign the extreme position to all who disagreed with the bill.

I also do not deny that some who did oppose the bill did want immediate roundup and deportation, however it most likely is not most, and if a person is being honest at all (which I happen to beleive Mr. Medved usually is)it was never all.

re Immigration bill
I never understood why people thought the bill was amnesty. No one has given me one iota of proof. I imagine it was nothing but cynicism that gave them that idea.

Huck not liberal?????
He is a liberal on everything he has ever done, with the exception of abortion, and Homosexual rights. The rest of his actions are, and have been liberal.

Like the minister on th THblog pointed out, Judicial Watch, a non partisan group, dedicated to fighting government corruption, listed Mike Huckabee among their ten most wanted Corrupt Policians of 2007.
Mike Huckabee published a list of Arkansas legislators that were supporting Huchabee.
The Arkansas News Bureau then reported that several names were used without permission, and had to be removed.
Only about 8 percent of Arkansans support Mike Huckabee.
They know what he is.

Huck Still using ANTI on campaign websit

Huckabee has AntiMormon comments still on his website:http://www.sltrib.com/ci_7861166

By the way Mike you need to read this new study showing bias against Mormons:
http://www.vanderbilt.edu/news/releases/2007/12/4/new-vande rbilt-scientific-poll-reveals-intense-bias-against-mormons- romney-must-demystify-his-religion-to-gain-support



Huck Still using ANTI on campaign websit

Huckabee has AntiMormon comments still on his website:http://www.sltrib.com/ci_7861166

By the way Mike you need to read this new study showing bias against Mormons:
http://www.vanderbilt.edu/news/releases/2007/12/4/new-vande rbilt-scientific-poll-reveals-intense-bias-against-mormons- romney-must-demystify-his-religion-to-gain-support

I see nothing from Huckabee
Barret --
Anyone can post comments on that site, including those who think Romney is a good guy. I do agree there is some anti-Mormon sentiment, but I do believe Romney has done a lot to neutralize it.

Nana--
Tell us just how many times Huckabee was re-elected in Arkansas?

Judicial Watch is a propaganda site, similar to Club for Growth.

Draqon
9 point plan indeed! When it’s convenient.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/ 20071208/NATION/112080054/1028/ELECTION

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
If we can’t have HOME SECURITY first, the rest just won’t matter!
http://fred08.com/
http://vets4fred.net/
NO MORE HOLDING OUR NOSE AND PULLING THAT LEVER!!
VOTE FOR A REAL REPUBLICAN!! NO MORE RINO’s!!!

Thats nonsense
Dragon,
The question is has he done enough. In a race that could be decided by just a few people evey bit counts. Has the former pastor who calls himself christian done enough or has he sat on the sidelines and let others do the dirty work for him? I think he has sat aside for to long. Huck did nothing to stop anti-mormon literature from being passed out during one of his speeches in 1998 (He was running for Governor). He did nothing to speak out against the anti-mormon christmas card given to voters this week. Huckabee has done nothing to apoligize to the Mormons around the world for his comments on Satan and Jesus Brother. He just apoligized to Mitt. He did nothing to stop the Millions of dollars spent on Mormon Bashing at the SLC Baptist convention in the 1990's. Huckabee has done nothing to patroll the blogs on his website.Its easy to patrol the sites especially when he lets the comments stay on the site for days. He pushes that he is the Christian and doesnt bash and yet we find out that he is showed the attack add two days after he said he would stop. IF HUCK is the LEADER he says he is he needs to unite and he has said virtually nothing to stop the bashing of Mormons.

outspent 20 to 1
In spite of all the money, all the support from the media elites, Huck keeps on going like the energizer bunny.
The flip-floping sleazyball Romney is not fooling anyone.
You can fool some people sometimes, but you cant fool all the people all the time.

What do you mean
McCain wasn't for amnesty???? Anytime you give illegals a free pass to stay here legally, even with a touch back, that 's amnesty!! Pay $2,000 and stay here legally. That's amnesty.!!
prove you've been here 2 years, and you can stay legally. That's amnesty!!

He also voted against tax cuts two times/ He voted against the repeal of the death tax. He voted against drilling in Anwar.
He's certainly not a conservaative.

On the other hand
Medved has done nothing to patrol these boards. If he did, people would be outraged at his pulling some notes and leaving others.

Huckabee believes in free and open speech. What he does object to are lies about him from a candidate who has been throwing as much mud as possible against Huckabee, hoping some of it will stick.

In your article is says,"It marks a major change in tone from Mr. Huckabee's tenure as governor of Arkansas..

Was it his job to act as an illegal immigration cop? He has maintained that it is not the job of the states, but the job of the US Government. Surely you agree that the US Government has dropped the ball...with US Citizens complicit with the US Government by shooting down any plan brought up to fix the problem.

con4fred
I noticed it also, a new GOP..well if it gets an;y newer it will be Demonrat lite. I'm independent and a Reagan conservative..independent because I won't support a Rino with anything close to money even
to the RNC because if they get one cent it's one cent wasted on someone who is elitist and has nothing but contempt for me and mine, except on election day.
I'm an evangelical and I'm not taken by Huckabee
we were taken in by another Christian Conservative (make that compassionate conservative Christian), never again. It's been
our experience (hubby and I) that some of the
worst shysters call themselves Christian..they talk the right talk but when it comes to walking
well it's questionable. A lot of good, decent
believers get hurt because they see the title
Christian and believe the name describes the walk. The Bible says by their fruits ye shall know them..so people be fruit inspectors and make your decision on that basis. I'm not sure
about any candidate, except Hunter, my primary
is so late he'll out. I'm watching Fred. And not liking what I see in Huckabee, we had one slick talker from Arkansas already although I'm not comparing Huck's morality with the impeached perverts, Slick is one of a kind. The
fix is in so we don't have time to vet the candidates and the media is making sure we don't
get to hear all of their positions, and they
give the lion's share to the so called top tier.

And
did anyone hear Rush's broadcast a few months ago when a N.H. State legislator called in to
tell him about a N.H. law that allows everyone and their uncle to come into the state and vote just on their word they were moving there? If that's true, N.H. may have once been the election bellwether but when people from surrounding states, including my native state, MA
can run across the state line, vote in the primary and go back home, it doesn't mean much.
I always loved N.H., whenever I go back home, if it's not the Cape, we head north to N.H. so maybe
we should fly back there since we both have always wanted to move there anyway. Anyone from
N.H. know if this is true? Rush was dumbfounded
at the guys information.

OK! Where is SSGT? He's in GIA-NORMOUS

TROUBLE!!!

He should know that posting all those polls was MY SCHTICK! And he just took all my thunder! :-(

Now I have to go to the corner and pout!








Okay, I'm done pouting... I'm back! :-)
Did anyone notice that paul was dead even with "Undecided?" :-)




Anne
SSGT had to set someone straight and he used the polls to do it. are you gonna taser him? LOL

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
If we can’t have HOME SECURITY first, the rest just won’t matter!
http://fred08.com/
http://vets4fred.net/
NO MORE HOLDING OUR NOSE AND PULLING THAT LEVER!!
VOTE FOR A REAL REPUBLICAN!! NO MORE RINO’s!!!

medved not running
Dragon,

Medved is not running for president. Huckabee should pull offensive comments. The blogs are just one part.

Doc: Naw! Not SSGT! But I was going to

read him the riot act... if I could keep a straight face, that is. LOL


How's Dad? You DO tell him we're all asking for him don't you??? You'd better, or I'll tell him that you called him an "ol' buzzard!" :-)








Most Important Issue - Illegal Immigrant
RA wrote:Medved Wrong On Immigration
Giving amnesty to 15 million new Democrats will change America into a socialist welfare state. It will also attract another 10-15 million for the next amnesty.

Severely punish employers who hire illegals and most illegals will self deport and not come back.

Amnesty is a poison pill that will destroy our republic.

I'm suprised that such an intelligent person can be acting so destructively on this issue.
That covers the most important issue.....

SirAslan
"Besides trying to have Ron Paul banned from the debates..."

Well, is he a republican? No, he isn't.

Anne
He's doing lots of work and it's hard, but he still putting the time in. Some days are better than others. Yes I do tell him about my people here and my favorite watering hole and how you all pull and pray for him and he has said that he appreciates it greatly!
P.S. when I walked in today, I called him an old buzzard LOL

http://www.immigrationshumancost.org/text/crimevictims.htm l
Free Ramos and Compean
If we can’t have HOME SECURITY first, the rest just won’t matter!
http://fred08.com/
http://vets4fred.net/
NO MORE HOLDING OUR NOSE AND PULLING THAT LEVER!!
VOTE FOR A REAL REPUBLICAN!! NO MORE RINO’s!!!

re anti mormon comments
== barret writes: Wednesday, January, 02, 2008 9:56 PM
medved not running
Dragon,

Medved is not running for president. Huckabee should pull offensive comments. The blogs are just one part.==

I went to the blog, and didn't see any anti-mormon comments, but I did see this:

Paul Fehrenbacher
01/02/2008 01:44 PM

Below is an e-mail that I sent to Mr. Burr, a writer at The Salt Lake Tribune who was critical of a few posts on this website and of Gov. Huckabee for "allowing" these posts. The article he wrote can be read at (http://www.sltrib.com/ci_7861166).

Mr. Burr's e-mail is tburr@sltrib.com

Mr. Burr,
Your article, "Despite Apology, Huckabee's Web Site Hosts Comments Critical of Romney's Mormonism" did not tell the whole truth. There have been several posts on Gov. Huckabee's website that are critical of Christian faiths outside of Mormonism. There have also been posts that defend Mormonism. Other posts have emphasized that religion should not be a factor in electing a president. Put simply, the website hosts a variety of views, many of which are not the position of Gov. Huckabee's campaign. Your sophomoric article handpicked posts that fit your agenda. I expect more of a journalist at The Salt Lake Tribune.

Sincerely,
Paul Fehrenbacher

Doc: So glad to hear it. I'm sure that's

just one of those things in life that unless you've gone through it YOURLSELF, YOU just don't understand how difficult it is.

God bless him!


But, I'm thinking he working so hard, and putting in the time so he can give you that butt kicking... LOL



Huckabee is no Conservative
Mike Huckabee was regarded by fellow Republican governors as a compulsive tax increaser and spender. He increased the Arkansas tax burden by 47 percent, boosting the levies on gasoline and cigarettes. The Arkansas Leader.com editorialized that Mike Huckabee raised more taxes in 10 years in office than Bill Clinton did in his 12 years.

Huckabee “broadly repudiates core Republican policies such as free trade, low taxes, the essential legitimacy of America’s corporate entities and the market system allocating wealth and opportunity,” according to George Will.

Two months after taking office, Huckabee stunned the state by saying he questioned rapist Wayne DuMond's guilt and that it was his intention to free the rapist, DuMond murdered a women in Illinois after Huckabee set him free

He joined the Democratic chorus in indicting President Bush for his "arrogant bunker mentality." Is he in the right party?

Huck’s use of the “Christian Leader” title and the Cross in his ads and his attempt to denigrate Mitt Romney’s religion is a thinly-veiled attempt to impose a religious test in violation of Article Six of the Constitution

The Huckster was the keynote speaker at an anti-Mormon conference in Salt Lake City. And he knows nothing about Mormons? And the "Christian Leader" doesn't want to release his sermons?

He led the Arkansas Baptists liberal congregations in a dispute with the conservative Southern Baptist Conference.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ry0xrOsqSQ
Mike fails on so many levels as a true conservative.

The moniker "Huckster" is well-earned.

You don't know what you're talking about
You could use a credible source instead of hit pieces which amount to propaganda.

Medved is the real "Fair and Balanced"
How refreshing to read intelligent insight that does not show an obvious predisposition to slander a candidate. Maybe Medved could tutor former scoial conservative Benedict Limbaugh in proper decorum regarding opinion journalism. Rush has gone beserk in his negative analysis of Huckabee. How much has Rush bet on Romney with the Las Vegas oddsmakers?

Dragon
"Well, is he a republican? No, he isn't." (Dr. Paul)

He not only is a TEN TERM REPUBLICAN Congressman, Ron Paul is one of only two running who even act like they are Republican, much less have the voting records to back it up. The other one is Duncan Hunter.

I think Matt Towery summed it well in his article this week.

"At one time, the GOP was the party that fought for open government, term limits, reductions in spending and less government intrusion. When I was involved in the Republican Party, we wanted the IRS disbanded and the Department of Education either reduced, made useful, or abolished. We believed in the goodness of an individual and the greatness of individualism."

Who besides Dr. Paul has this stand? Who?

-----
“America is at a crossroads, we have begun to stray from our traditions and must get back to what has made us the greatest nation on earth or we will lose much of the freedom we hold dear. Ron Paul stands above all of the other candidates in his commitment to liberty and to America.” "Leading America is difficult, and I know Ron Paul is the man for the job,” - Barry Goldwater, Jr.

Romney as nominee= Queen Hillary win
Hitlery wants Romney to be the GOP nominee...he is completely unelectable! Mormonism is a CULT that hates Christians and blacks. Mainstream America will not vote for him even if it means Queen Hitlery Saddam Clinton.

Romney Huckaburied? I like it.
I think I had a Ron Paul "movement" this morning in the bathroom.

hagar
You undoubtedly are a Huckabee supporter....
You have know idea what you are talking about and your bigotry is one of many reasons Huck can't win the whole thing.
The majority of Americans can recognize intolerance and bigotry when they see it. Even if 'thinly veiled' as the Huckster has done.
get over it!

McCain and Huck are bad for Economy
The truth about McCain is that he is an admitted adulterer and far more ethically challenged than any other republican candidate - read up on the Keating scandal. He has also flip - flopped on abortion - see 2.5.00 debate with Alan Keyes. Worse yet though are his recent positions on the economy. He is the only republican to want mandatory restrictions on industries that produce CO2. He has also recently called for the dilution of patent laws relating to drug companies. Additionally, he wants to import generics from Canada. This will be horrible for pharmaceuticals. Finally, his health plan calls for a doctor's pay to be tied to his results - what kind of bureaucracy would this entail?

Huck raised taxes as gov and is now calling for tariff's (bad for small and large businesses and the public), not to mention a national sales tax of 23%, instead of an income tax. Imagine someone with an income of $100,000 buying a house under this scenario (which eliminates the mortgage interest deduction).I can go on and on, but the bottom line is that these guys don't have much to recommend them. Please study their history more closely.

McCain Link on Abortion
Here is the link to the transcript of the debate where McCain said abortion is a choice for the family (after which he was lambasted by Alan Keyes). His comments are about three fourths into it. http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0002/15/lkl.00.html Note: a year before that he said that Roe should not be overturned. This idea that he is a consistent conservative has been concocted by the media. Figure out why.

Huckabee is the best
Liberty says:
"Who besides Dr. Paul has this stand? Who?"

Mike Huckabee. He will do all he can humanly do to get rid of the IRS. Even Ron Paul has said he would sign the FairTax, if it crossed his desk. The FairTax is the best alternative to the currently broken down income tax.

Mike said:
"Huck raised taxes as gov...I can go on and on, but the bottom line is that these guys don't have much to recommend them."

Huckabee cut taxes by $380 million before he was forced to raise taxes by a lesser amount, and ended up with a surplus, which he insisted should be returned to the people. You probably saw the hit piece by Club for Growth or something similar.

Most Dangerous Lie: Huck is Bush
The similarities in spelling is where that one stops, but National Review in its insane support of the Republican Android insists that Huckleberry is W. God, would that were so. In fact, he is successfully running as Reagan did--Morning in America. Listen to his acceptance drivel for Iowa. As long as he keeps that up, he is unstoppable. Unfortunately he is totally uninformed or ridiculously wrong on every important issue. I have voted for every Republican since and including Nixon and would vote for Obama rather than the Pig-eyed liar from Hope.

Be specific
Otherwise, how can anyone respond?

Presidents have HELP....none perfect...
When the next U.S. President takes office in Jan 2009...if the world is still turning on its axis 'as is' in 2009...there will be advisors, and Congress, and WE THE PEOPLE, etc. And the president shouldn't have to re-invent himself for each decision.

Only God knows the future, and hopefully America will have a future that we can all participate in.

No candidate is perfect...but also hopefully our next president will be teachable and principled--and also well prepared--having administrative experience and excellent advisors...and people who pray for him. President Huckabee sounds right to me.
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