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Wednesday, December 12, 2007
Michael Medved :: Townhall.com Columnist
Running Mate Rules
by Michael Medved
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The struggle for the GOP Presidential nomination remains wide open and lavishly unpredictable with no front runner or clearly defined contours. Any one of five candidates could become the party's standard bearer -- Romney, Rudy, Huckabee, McCain and even Thompson. Even long-time skeptics now acknowledge the very real possibility (that I predicted some six months ago): that these contenders battle it out inconclusively for more than six months, continuing the contest all the way to the convention in Minneapolis, with no candidate commanding a clear majority of first ballot delegates.

Meanwhile, as the nation waits for a Presidential nominee there's an increasingly obvious choice for the Vice Presidential nomination, based on five iron-clad and important Running Mate Rules. Whoever wins the top spot on the ticket should pay close attention to the record of recent campaigns and select the inescapable candidate based on these undeniable principles:

RULE 1: FAMILIAR AND REASSURING BEATS NEW AND "EXCITING"

The most successful running mates of recent years were well-known, highly respected senior statesmen -- not newcomers or rookies. Lyndon Johnson (who ran with Kennedy in '60), George H.W. Bush (who ran twice with Reagan), Lloyd Bentsen (who helped Michael Dukakis as his running mate in 1988), and Dick Cheney all re-assured voters that their relatively inexperienced standard-bearers would benefit from their sage counsel and extensive experience. LBJ had already established himself as the most powerful man in Congress as Senate Majority Leader; GWH Bush, Bentsen and Cheney all boasted a combination of both Congressional experience and prior service as major cabinet level officers. At the other extreme, whenever Presidential candidates attempt to add "excitement" to the ticket by selecting little-known "fresh faces," it ends up as an exciting, fresh-faced flop-- often sealing the ticket's defeat. When Dwight Eisenhower picked the youthful newcomer Richard Nixon (only 39 years old) in 1952, the Nixon Fund/"Checkers" scandal almost forced him from the ticket. Goldwater's selection of obscure, upstate New York Congressman William Miller (father of today's leftist radio talk radio host Stephanie Miller) to run with him in '64 only cemented the public impression of the Arizona Senator as a hopeless fringe candidate (he lost in a landslide).

Nixon tried to startle the political world by boldly selecting a freshly-elected Maryland governor with a "funny name": Spiro T. Agnew. Not only did this surprise package quickly blow up in his face (Agnew’s odd comments and gaffes plagued the whole course of campaign '68) but Spiro T. was forced to resign in the midst of the second term on corruption charges dating back to his Maryland years. Geraldine Ferraro (another unknown Congress-person from New York) provided no help at all for the Mondale campaign in '84, and the sad experience of much-reviled Dan Quayle (meant to mobilize voters of a "new generation") in '88 and '92 remains fresh in the nation's memory. For the last quarter century, candidates appear to have learned this lesson: it's the job of the top of the ticket to generate excitement or to offer the prospect of freshness and change, and if the main guy can’t provide that spark it’s foolish to expect magic from the running mate. On the other hand, a grey eminence in the style of Cheney can only make the top guy look more vital and thrilling by comparison-- and reassure people that the VEEP's ready to go in a national emergency and a transfer of power, the last time that anyone's hungering for excitement.

RULE 2: OLDER IS BETTER THAN YOUNGER

Whatever his faults and fumbles, Cheney displayed the key advantage of an older, accomplished Vice President: he never waited on deck as a potential successor, or maneuvered to secure his own future. A Veep who's not a possible Presidential candidate himself has far less temptation to upstage his boss, avoiding the sort of problems that regularly characterized the Kerry-Edwards team in 2004. New reports on their relationship indicate the damaging impact of Edwards' obsessive concern with his own image and prospects, and his refusal to perform the tasks or to advance the themes the campaign leadership assigned to him. For the Presidential candidate personally and for the nation at large, there's something vastly reassuring about an older Vice Presidential nominee whose only interest is service and support, rather than plotting his own future races for the top job. With our long, punishing nominating process, no Presidential candidate can ever come across as Olympian, detached, unambitious, or unselfish, but those look like admirable qualities in a second banana. The chances are that any Republican nominee (except the 72 year old John McCain) and any Democrat (except the 123 year old Mike Gravel) will choose an older running mate this time.

RULE 3: FOR PRESIDENT, WE LIKE OUTSIDERS, BUT FOR VEEP WE NEED AN INSIDER

In the last thirty years, all the most successful Presidential candidates have been governors (Carter, Reagan, Clinton, George W. Bush) who promised to come to Washington as outsiders who would clean up the mess. But for an even longer period all Vice Presidential candidates have been insiders with many years of inside-the-beltway experience. Since 1948, in fact (when California governor Earl Warren won the VP nomination alongside New York governor Tom Dewey) every since Vice Presidential candidate nominated by the conventions of either party has served time in Congress—an astounding string of 28 running mates in a row who served in Congress, rather than as governors or mayors or generals or business executives. (Just to fend off nitpickers—in 1972, George McGovern initially picked Senator Tom Eagleton of Missouri as his Democratic running mate, and the Democratic Convention nominated him. But after revelations about his psychiatric hospitalizations, Eagleton withdrew. McGovern then picked Sergeant Shriver – brother-in-law of President Kennedy, father in law of Arnold Schwarzenegger and very much a DC insider) as his substitute running mate.

Technically, though not nominated by the convention, Shriver counts as the only Veep candidate in 60 years without Congressional experience). The reason that “insider” status has become a virtual requirement for a running mate is obvious: we all want a Vice President who knows Washington well enough to step into the job at a moment’s notice. We assume that a governor who’s never spent time in DC will get a chance to learn the ropes as he gradually settles into the office, but a Vice President forced to take office after the death or incapacity of his predecessor never gets that chance.

RULE 4: IF POSSIBLE, CHOOSE A RUNNING MATE WHO’S RUN A PRIOR, CREDIBLE CAMPAIGN FOR THE PRESIDENCY

The big advantage in choosing a Vice Presidential nominee who’s run before for President is that the candidate has already been vetted – whatever skeletons he (or she) may have kept stashed in the closet has already been discussed and digested by the press. The VP candidates plagued by scandal or controversy regarding their prior careers (Nixon, Agnew, Eagleton, Ferraro, Quayle) are those “new faces” who’ve never run for national office before. Reagan and Kerry both selected runners up as running mates: George Herbert Walker Bush and John Edwards had both fought hard and effectively for the Presidential nomination, enhancing their national stature and providing a chance for the media to sort through any embarrassments. Bill Clinton and Bob Dole both selected running mates who had run prior races for the White House: Al Gore and Jack Kemp had contested for their respective parties’ nominations in 1988. Selecting a previous Presidential contender provides a Veep candidate who’s already built up relationships with the national media and the people at large, and will harbor few nasty, unexposed secrets (like psychiatric hospitalizations or bribe-taking in Baltimore).

RULE 5: ETHNIC, RELIGIOUS OR GENDER NOVELTY DOESN'T MATTER

With mainstream media fixated on various “firsts” in the Presidential race (first woman, black, Hispanic, Mormon, and Italian American double-divorcee as serious candidates) there’s a natural tendency to look at other “breakthrough” possibilities in a running mate. Any smart nominee will resist this temptation: whenever it’s been tried in the past, it’s always failed. In 1984, Walter Mondale supposedly “made history” by choosing Geraldine Ferraro as his running mate; they then proceeded to make a different kind of history by losing 49 states. Sixteen years later, Al Gore got huge publicity for selected the first Jew (and first non-Christian of any kind) in Joe Lieberman, but despite the praise for his choice they lost an election Democrats should have won. It’s possible that a few extra Jews voted for the Democratic ticket because of Senator Joe-mentum, and that might have helped in the startlingly close race in Florida. Nevertheless, even without a Jew on the ticket the Democratic candidate (John Francois Kerry) still drew 74% of Jewish voters (compared to 86% for Al Gore). Barack Obama’s current difficulty in getting a majority of black voters to back him against Hillary indicates the folly of assuming that voters will back your ticket based on ethnic loyalties.

Republicans should therefore avoid the trap of believing that they must trump some “breakthrough” nomination by Democrats (Obama, Hillary, Richardson) with some breakthrough of their own. Finding a black or female or Hispanic running mate won’t automatically boost the GOP in those communities. At one point, the party establishment spoke longingly of Condoleezza Rice as a running mate and fantasized about her ability to compete for both black and female votes. Her controversial tenure at the State Department, however, and her association with both Iraq War problems and a misguided “peach process” for the Palestinians, makes her unthinkable as a Vice Presidential candidate. Ethnic or religious identity will matter for a running mate in 2008 only in the long-shot event of Mike Huckabee winning the Republican nomination. If he does, he must reach out to a non-Evangelical – a non Protestant, in fact – for the second sport on the ticket. That balancing act would be essential in this special circumstance to convince the country that despite his background as a Baptist pastor, Huckabee’s open-minded, tolerant, and respectful of other faiths. In the unlikely event that he grabs the top sport on the ticket, he must choose a Catholic, a Jew, or even a Mormon to demonstrate that the Republican Party hasn’t been captured by a narrow cabal of religious zealots.

With these commons sense, unassailable rules in mind, one potential choice for the Vice Presidential nomination should emerge as an apparent Veep frontrunner – and his name is John McCain.

He conforms perfectly to all four rules – he’s a well-known, nationally respected figure, hardly a fresh face; he’s a septuagenarian candidate who won’t be plotting his own future races; he’s a Washington insider (and easily the most influential single Senator of the last twenty years) who certainly qualifies as a hard-wired insider; he’s run for president twice, maintaining his dignity and integrity on both occasions; and his selection hardly qualifies as a “stunt” choice meant to grab votes in some sub-group (Episcopalian war-heroes hardly count as a contested voting block).

Some may object to the idea of McCain as a running mate because his record (particularly on campaign finance reform and immigration) won’t match the position of the nominee. Aside from the fact that he’s changed emphasis on the issues (he scarcely speaks about campaign financing and now insists on “border security first” regarding immigration reform) history shows that issues disagreements never hurt a ticket. No one looks closely at a Veep candidate’s position papers because it’s obvious that he won’t be shaping policy. Kennedy and Johnson, Reagan and Bush, Gore and Lieberman all disagreed on crucial issues, but media and voters ultimately ignored those disputes – especially after the Vice Presidential candidate inevitably (and appropriately) signified that he would follow the President’s lead.

Given the non-existent foreign policy and defense experience of the three front-runners (Romney, Huckabee, Giuliani) a McCain choice would be particularly necessary – sorry, Rudy, serving as New York City Mayor and responding to local destruction doesn’t truly amount to leadership on foreign affairs (however admirable it might be). Moreover, McCain’s home state, Arizona (where he remains hugely popular), will be a major battleground in ’08 – Democrats know that no Republican can win without it. McCain’s continuing popularity and credibility in the Hispanic community might also reduce the hemorrhaging of GOP Latino support due to strident anti-immigrant posturing by all major candidates. Moreover, on the abortion issue that inspires and engages so many Republicans, McCain’s unwavering pro-life record would help to solidify the candidacy of either Romney or Rudy if they selected him for the ticket.

Of course, there’s always a chance that McCain (recently surging to second place in New Hampshire) will re-energize his own race for the big prize, or else reject the idea of taking the second spot with one of his rivals.

The very attributes that make him such an attractive candidate for Vice President unfortunately hinder his Presidential campaign – particularly his age, his Senatorial insider status, and the old-hat quality (“You mean he’s running again?”) of his candidacy.

Nevertheless, he still shines at most of the televised debates and he’s conducted the most positive campaign of any of the major contenders, with none of bickering and back-biting so typical of Romney, Rudy, Thompson and, increasingly, Huckabee. In the likely event that McCain’s efforts fall short in pursuit of the Presidential nomination, his selection as a candidate for Vice President would add an element of class and continuity to the Republican ticket.

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Nothing wrong with Rice
except that Medved has bought into the anti-Bush crap that already cost us the congress last election. Right, morons, run away from the man who won the last two presidential elections. After all the Mind Dead Media keep telling you that everybody hates him. Yeah everybody at CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBC, Time, Newsweek et al. That's everybody right? Everybody except the people that voted him in twice. How many millions was that again? Get a grip or the GOP is going down 60/40 and worse than that in the E.C. tally. With the current crop of front runners, picking a VP is not really going to matter, but I have an idea to get more respect for our candidates. For the next debate, let's have a little tiny car come puttering onto the stage flashing its light and honking an oogah-oogah horn. Then all those clowns can miraculously come climbing out of it! http://www.moronpolitics.com

Medved, an interesting thought
But let's apply this rule a little more. George Voinovich meets most of these, and he is as big an idiot as McCain, so he is your next logical choice. Or you could pick Newt Gingrich as being a logical choice using much of this criteria. Lose by a landslide is what you would do, Michael.

How about John Kasich? He is well known as a fiscal conservative and would fit this bill much better in my mind.

thoughts
Huckabee has already said he would put Hunter in a cabinet position having to do with the military.

Yes Thompson is good.

Newt is great. I am sorry. I still do not think I want him in a position where he has his finger on the bomb. I know the story is old, but what do we have by which to judge a person? Do you remember the time Newt threw a conniption fit over the seat he got on air force 1 that did not fit his ego? I do not want him as VP. VP stands in for the president. Think of another position. he is a brilliant man.

I wish Bolton was running for president.

I wish V.D. Hanson was giving military advice. When you have been studying wars for 3000 years, of empires that have since disappeared, I'm sure it gives one a perspective that most Americans don't have.














A better choice
Mitt Romney, Pres.,/Duncan Hunter, VP
That should cover all the issues.

VP Better Suggestions
Mitt Romney, Pres./Duncan Hunter, VP
That should cover all the issues.

Pres &V.P
I would go with Thompson and Mike Pence or General Betraeus

no
McCain is too old. Why put someone in a position that grooms him to pick up the standard when the guy is to old to do so? McCain deserves some position where he protects the troops. The guy who should be GOP VP is Hunter, an insider, and I wish he would win the presidency, along with others of whom I am fond.

The best thing Cheney did for Bush was act as a disincentive for democrat nut cases to assassinate Bush.

Bush is Bush light in comparison to Cheney. Imagine sending the message that if you knock off the GOP president you get a stronger conservative. It's a great plan.












Medved overlooked the most obvious choic
I think Medveds choice of G0P running mate in '08 doesn't take in to consideration that a lot more talented and electable candidate exists: Newt Gingrich "The Respected Speaker of the House" should be first choice on any ticket..

Bucky
Z-Hills, FL

One more about McCain
I especially object to McCain's (and others') insistence that we Americans must retain the "moral high ground" in dealing with the rest of the world. The "rest of the world" evidently does not agree that we have a moral high ground. They damn us and curse at us and call us evil. They "hate" our president.
I think this is simply arrogance on the part of McCain and those who echo him. Who ever told them we are better than any of the other human beings who inhabit the earth. I don't harbor such conceits. I just think we have a land and a society that, despite shortcomings, are worth protecting and preserving. I leave the "holier-than-thou" pronouncements to McCain and his ilk.
So screw the moral high ground. Bring on the water boards.

More McCain
McCain also defines "waterboarding" as torture. He worries that if we waterboard our prisoners, they will do the same or worse to our boys is they ever capture any.
Where has he been? The enemies we face today never heard of the Geneva Convention. Regardless of what we do, they consider waterboarding child's play. They cut off people's heads, not to mention their ears, tongues and limbs.
Also, remember people recover from waterboarding, and still have their ears, heads, tongues and limbs. I don't think it qualifies as "torture."
I don't want a Vice-President who doesn't live in the real world.

McCain
Negatives: McCain, like Huckabee, talks about closing Guantánamo because Europeans (or others in "world opinion) think we are abusing prisoners. I want a leader who will face them down with the truth and will make it clear we don't give a damn what they think, especially when we know better.
McCain, presumably would not resort to "torture" of terrorist prisoners even if the survival of America hung in the balance. He says torture does not work and a torture victim would "lie." Not so. The interrogator tells him, "if it turns out you are lying, this is what we will do to you..."
McCain's support of the amnesty bill last year shows he is out of touch with public sentiments. McCain is a wild card, totally unpredictable on issues. He wold add nothing but question marks to a GOP ticket.

Black Conservatives
Does anybody think the Reps are smart enough to use the immigration issue to lure Blacks to the GOP? Nah, I didn't either.

Tee
I hope that you write that book, and soon.

You are right...there are a suprising number of conservative blacks out there fed up with the Dems.

I aggree, the libs are killing this country.

No, No,No, No, No....
Maybe as Democrat VP but he's not a Republican and hasn't been in a long time. Let them have him they like him so much. He is so over...Medved has really missed the boat on this. McCain needs to go away.

John McCain
I agree!! He is truly everything we need in a VP, however, we would find ourselves in the same position in 8 years. No one to run for President. Oh, well, wouldn't that be a lovely dilemma?

another Medved miss
This column is idiotic. Medved confuses excruciating lists with true reasoning.
McCain is:
A-Too old. We need to think about a next term. He's almost too old to be president.
B-A jerk. McCain Feingold is just the start.
C-Before Huckabee, the liberals' favorite Republican

#2 as insurance policy
That notion must rest on the idea that would-be assassins are rational. They aren't, always. Did Squaky Fromme or John Hinkley give any thought to who'd be president if they succeeded?
Note: I'm sure the posters who opined about that were less than serious. Just sayn'

I might also point out (just for interest) that in the case of Lincoln, the assassination plan also included the vice president and secretary of state.

Medved makes points, but posters even
Better ones, such as the following suggestions:

"Georgetwin: A Duo that fits Medved's Profile
Romney/Thompson 2008"

petie3 writes:

"VP choices (2)
Romney/Tancredo or Romney/Thompson would also fit."

KGK: "Tickets?

Ah Mike. **Az. has a Dem guv. She will indeed appoint a Dem to replace McCain*** if he would be foolishly chosen. That would nick another Pub Senator. Nah. Rudy-Fred., Mitt-Fred;,Rudy-Huck, Mitt-Hunter."

All of these are GREAT suggested tickets, and BETTER than Medved's.




hagar
Guiliani would probably be wise to ask Huckabee onto the ticket to offset some of his shortcomings.
I can't see that as a winning ticket though.

Giuliani/Huckabee?

A Giuliani/Huckabee ticket would be a ticket from hell.

I guess one big question is: Would having Giuliani on the ticket attract social liberals and having Huckabee on the ticket attract social conservatives?

Or would having Giuliani on the ticket drive away social conservatives and having Huckabee on the ticket drive away social liberals?


Another point: Those of us who want the immigration laws enforced who might possibly hold our nose and vote for Giuliani if he's the nominee I don't believe will do so if there's an open-borders guy in BOTH slots, which would be the case for a Giuliani/Huckabee ticket.

I think Giuliani/Huckabee would be so bad we'd be better off with 4 years of Hillary.

Giuliani would be better off with someone like Thompson. (although Thompson probably wouldn't be willing)

CVN65
In regard to your comments about making promises, maybe I didn't make myself clear. I am not a Marxist, socialist. I am not looking for a handout, nor do I want big brother controlling my life. Look at the landscape of American governmnet and you see on both sides how they cannot police themselves, so I know they can't run my life correctly. In fact I am one of the few African Americans who does not like afirmative action statutes. I do not want nor need a handout or extra points on a test because I have more melanin in my skin; but I do want equality (pipe dream?) across the board. I want a smaller less intrusive govt like you. I would suggest that instead of assuming that all blacks want handouts, get to know some of us. You'd be surprised at how many of us are fed up with the welfare, Marxist mentality.
One of the things I have thought about is wrting a book entitled "Duped by the Democrats", and hand it out to the blind in this country who need to see that liberalism is literally killing this great country.

Health Insurance
Or like GHWB, you can pick a guy like Dan Quayle so people will look at him and say "Geez, I better not assassinate the President..."

Tickets?
Ah Mike. Az. has a Dem guv. She will indeed appoint a Dem to replace McCain if he would be foolishly chosen. That would nick another Pub Senator. Nah. Rudy-Fred., Mitt-Fred;,Rudy-Huck, Mitt-Hunter. And then there is Tim Pawlanty a guv from Minn. The Party has choices that would not take seats away from the Congressional caucus. The Pubs do have a bench.

Tee
It's kinda hard to rationalize that black America is being used by both parties when the Dems get approx. 91% of the Black vote. Until the black voter finally decides the liberal Dems are only using them come election time and that the Dems actually want to maintain the current status for blacks, you are getting what you deserve. You can empower yourself at anytime by joining with the conseratives.

It is clear the Republican party has enhanced the opportunities for a black politican at a much higher level than any Dem administration yet. If the black vote would swing to even a 50-50 split then no doubt people like JC Watts, Colin Powell, Michael Steele + many others would be clear choices to get on the top ticket every 4 years. No way can the likes of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, the current race-hustlers, stand up to the quality of these people.

If 72% of the black population supports a choice for school vouchers, and if 91% of the black vote supports the Dem party, why in heaven isn't there an option for school vouchers? Right now! You're betting on the wrong horse. It appears most blacks are just voting for next months check instead of voting for a better opportunity for their kids and future generations.


Republican VP
Who cares who the Dimocraps pick! All of the choices are still lefties!

The real message here is that a VP candidate regardless of whether or not he/she is “exiting” cannot save a lackluster Presidential candidate.

I have news for you Michael, John McCain is NOT "hugely popular" in Arizona! Don't misread his lack of opposition in 2004 as popularity. It is just that no one in the State Party had the cajones to challenge him in the primary! My bet is that he won't even win his home state on Feb. 5th!

Finally, my choice for African-American VP would be Herman Cain, from Georgia! Cain is the type of person the Republican Party could really use! He's a rock-solid conservative AND he is more eloquent than Obama, let alone any of the Republican candidates!

bot_feeder
John McLame comes through as an Arrogant Blowhard whether you post it or not :)!

GOOD CALL!

VP choices (2)
Romney/Tancredo or Romney/Thompson would also fit.

VP should be insider
Agree with logic but you left out the VP's two important functions: l. running the Senate and breaking ties, 2. being politically more radical than the President. #2 is the POTUS' life insurance policy; who would assassinate GWB if the alternative were Dick Cheney?
The only exception to #2 was TR in 1901 and politicians of both parties were horrified. He also came up through executive type positions, not congress. Lincoln's VP almost guaranteed his assassination; if not by Booth by most other crazed ex-Confederates (and there were many).

McCain Limited Speech Bill
If McCain would serve as a Gore-type vice president (ribbon cutting) and not as a Cheney-type it might be a good idea to give him the job and get him out of the Senate where he introduced the campaign restriction of speech law with Feingold and has tried to welcome the illegal immigrants with Kennedy. Limiting his influence to tie-breakers would be a welcome improvement.

helps in the general
One thing I will say about McCain, is that I think he would pull some independent voters without actually doing much liberalism in office.

In defense of McCain, while I don't like the campaign finance reform, it was a good faith effor to fix a problem. And with immigration, I think that he was right when he said that his plan wasn't really amnesty. He said that if he could sit down with you for 30 minutes and explain it, you would agree that it is a good plan, but in the debate/commercial context, that is too difficult to do.

But I'm voting romney anyway.

Nah
Mr. Medved's article is pretty off, IMHO.

A VP who is older than the P is certainly not the norm, and doesn't make much sense in general if you think about the role of the VP. For BUsh/Cheney, it made sense. (And actually, VPres Cheney isn't actually very much older than Pres Bush, but he did add needed experience and gravitas to the ticket.)

The R candidates of today: I don't see any whose lacks could be balanced by their VP choice, certainly not by age factor (with the exception of McCain and Thompson, who could benefit by choosing younger people.) I think McCain and JC Watt or Michael Steele would make an interesting (and probably winning) ticket.
For the rest of the Republicans, it's pretty moot who they choose, as long as the person has a clean record.

Now it MIGHT make sense for all of the Dem candidates to choose someone older, as they certainly all could use the experience/gravitas balance.

As for McCain in 2nd place on a ticket, I wouldn't look for that to happen.

I just keep wondering who would sign on to run #2 to Sen Clinton, but I don't think we're going to find out.

More likely Giuliani/Huckabee

Very possible that Giuliani will nominate Huckabee as his VP. If Huckabee doesn't win the nomination himself.

I always thought it would be Giuliani/Mccain but after the mccain kenndedy bill I'm not sure.

I should also have said...
Veep my arse!

bot_feeder
"Arrogant blowhard" coming through loud and clear. Sometimes it takes a few minutes to show up. ; > )

By the way, I agree. The man is FULL of himself and needs to do the country a favor and GO AWAY!

Not that many black conservatives yet
Tee, don't give up yet on the idea that the Republicans can nominate a black American for President or Vice-President. How large is the pool from which to draw, at this time? How many conservative blacks enter politics and find that they must fight the veiled racism of the Left, of the Democrats and the mainstream media, who assume that blacks cannot do anything without help from the government and the Party? How many black politicians go along with that machine, because they don't know anything else, having grown up in Philadelphia, New York and other major urban centers ruled by the Socialists?
They face an uphill climb, on that point alone.
With time, more and more blacks will find that the answer to any of their problems is not with Uncle Sam's plantation, any more or less than it is the answer to any other American's problems. As more and more black people wake up to the fact that the Socialists keep them in a state of symoblic bondage, as political sharecroppers, they will stop supporting the Left, and we'll see more and more black conservative politicians. But it takes time.

Hillary delenda est.

Tee
I have to take issue with your quote that a candidate "promises the world but delivers nothing". As a conservative myself, I prefer candidates that promise nothing to individuals but opportunity. Shrinking the govt, cutting spending, fixing SS, reforming the tax structure to end the penalization of producers- that is what I want to see, not what a candidate can do just for me or my ethnic group. Anyone that thinks it is ok for gummint to forcibly take from one to give to another can not really be termed a conservative; Marxist is a more accurate term.

testing 1 2 3
Are my posts that refer to McCain as an "arrogant blowhard" being censored?

I'll send this message to test that theory.

RonPaul for VP? Not likely...
This was a good article as long as you preface it with "should a prowar candidate win the GOP nomination" I wouldn't count out the fact that the majority of Americans and Republicans are against the war regardless of progress being made or not.

C11bar, I believe RP has publicly stated Mark Sanford would be a good choice for VP.

Very good article. It is at least strange to me that people don't seem to want someone exactly like the presidential nominee thinking the VP might one day be the president. It is more of a balancing act I guess.

IGoCommando said
"Also consider the fact that we could keep him out of mischief by extricating him from legislation writing."

Interesting idea there, but the problem is, you can't put an arrogant blowhard like McCain in the basement and give him some sweaters to knit and expect he will just stay there quietly.

RonPaul for VP? Not likely...
This was a good article as long as you preface it with "should a prowar candidate win the GOP nomination" I wouldn't count out the fact that the majority of Americans and Republicans are against the war regardless of progress being made or not.

C11bar, I believe RP has publicly stated Mark Sanford would be a good choice for VP.

Very good article. It is at least strange to me that people don't seem to want someone exactly like the presidential nominee thinking the VP might one day be the president. It is more of a balancing act I guess.

Virginia patriot

"Comprehensive" immigration reform may not be at all an achilles heel for Clinton.

If and when she gets the nomination, do you think we will hear another word from her on that issue? I sincerely doubt it.

Amend the Constitution...

...to limit a vice-presidents term to the remainder of the president who he/she may succeed and proscribe them running FOR president, succession or not, until one election cycle (4yrs.)has passed. This would change the manner and motive by which a vice-president is selected. Hopefully, it would remove from the Republic's burden the likes of the Truman's, Johnson"s, Nixon's, GHW Bush's, and morons such as Al Gore.

As for John McCain as VP. McCain should retire to a small town in Arizona and open a bed & breakfast called, "The Hanoi Hilton". Is that disrespectful of his service and suffering? Perhaps. But John McCain has done his best as a US senator to undo what respect he deserves and has caused the Republic to suffer by his poor judgment. Go'way, McCain!

Problem
... is many of the guys with experience are the same guys who have experience with the whole incumbency, K-street gang process. Click your heels 3 times, and we will not get a GW". That cannot happen.

Rule 4
Rule 4 is the primary reason everyone will stay in as long as possible.

Hillary's Achilles Heel

Hillary is still singing the "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" tune (all the Dems, really), not realizing it is her swan song.

The only issue I have ever seen 75-80% of Americans agree on is stopping illegal aliens. Any GOP candidate that is credible (not Rudy, McCain, or Huckabee) on this issue could win in a landslide.

The biggest problem is the RNC has sold it's soul to the cheap labor express. They are determined to nominate an amnesty candidate, even if it means losing the election. Stupid Party, indeed.

Medved
He is a shill for the cheap labor express. Medved is the Propaganda Minister in waiting for the NAU. He wants to make sure at least half of the GOP ticket is amnesty friendly, since GOP voters are likely not going to nominate an amnesty candidate. McCain finished his own political career when he decided to represent foreign nationals illegally in our country and call us names for wanting the government to enforce the laws.

Ok, I get it.
Thompson/Rice would be the perfect ticket according to Medveds rules. And now that I think about it, I like it too!

NO MORE RINOS!

Vote for Fred.

A Duo that fits Medved's Profile
Romney/Thompson 2008

Hawkeye
If stupid was a crime, you would be on DEATH ROW!

Interesting typo
"...Her controversial tenure at the State Department, however, and her association with both Iraq War problems and a misguided “**peach** process” for the Palestinians..."

I guess that's enough to im-peach Ms. Rice.

McCabal
I would also restate the hard-wired insider as a hardheaded insider (player).

Need an insider for VP?
Don't look to the ranks of the neocons. The neocons will be the outsiders. America is fed up with their interventionism which ends up making our country less secure and less free. Ron Paul, who you don't even mention in your article, will be choosing the next VP from the ranks of the freedom loving patriots of our country. I don't know who he will choose, but some names that come to mind are possibly Dr. Walter E. Williams or Judge Andrew Napolitano. Whoever he chooses, I'm confident Americans will be pleased.

Michael
As to "needed" experience: this guy ran his own little jihad in the Senate. What do you expect of him in the number two slot?

rule 6: Making him VP disables opponent
Is that why JFK chose LBJ?

Tee
This white woman would be happy to vote for a black man for President.

The problem is, Thomas Sowell isn't running. :)

More seriously, IMO, a candidate's skin color is a completely trivial issue. Character, integrity, and wise policy position are the important thing.

Okay,
till the storm hit:
"He conforms perfectly to all four rules – he’s a well-known, nationally respected figure, hardly a fresh face; he’s a septuagenarian candidate who won’t be plotting his own future races; he’s a Washington insider (and easily the most influential single Senator of the last twenty years) who certainly qualifies as a hard-wired insider;..."

Well, that he would be a defender of the presidents policies is a coin toss, to me. As his nickname maverick implies, just how much room is afforded for that?

Hawkeye
Do you own a dictionary? Ever heard of "Spell Check"? As an English teacher, I shudder when people butcher my language.

What's your proof? I dislike baseless accusations thrown around with no proof. I think you're actually a strategist for the Billary Campaign. I bet it was your idea to make the announcement about dirt on Obama. You alone are a black eye on whatever party/club you associate with.

Tee
Convince JC Watts to run as VP or President and you've got my vote. Signed, white male conservative Republican lawyer.

Lier
John McCain is lying to,and trying to deceive,the same Americans that prayed for his safe and quick release from captivity.People like Don Imus,and others are covering up for him.
John McCain is a two face lier,I have proof,but,nobody wants to see any proof because the Truth is just that.America will hold YOU and YOUR cohorts as examples to what should happen to you, and the likes of you.America is tired of your lies,and,we will vote for whomever we want,and you are in for ONE BIG SURPRIZE COME NOV.MAYBE SOONER!GOG PERMITING.

Tee
"You court our votes (at election time only), promise the world, and deliver nothing!"

Tee,
I think you've successfully described the attitude of every conservative; regardless of ethnicity. I've never walked in our shoes, but I think I feel your pain.

It mistifies me how candidates have completely ignored how Ross Perot campaigned in the 90's. He didn't just get the anger vote. He also gained support because he bought uninterrupted air time-- clearly laid out what he saw as problems and how to solve them. He used visual aids effectively. Instead of trying to win favor with a racial group, a candidate needs to take uninterrupted time to carefully explain exactly why their platform and policies should be exactly what any hard-working American should agree with.

McCain
McCain would be a force in Veep debates, and has shown tremendous ability keeping a campaign going that we keep declaring DOA. Of course, his war-hero credentials are a given.

The media would find they likely could not pim the 'evil' monicker on McCain, the way they have with Cheney.

Also consider the fact that we could keep him out of mischief by extricating him from legislation writing.

Veep
As a 47-year-old, male, very conservative African-American, I think it's very sad that neither major party has ever seriously considered a black as president or veep; and I don't think it's going to happen anytime soon, either, at least not in my lifetime. You court our votes (at election time only), promise the world, and deliver nothing! In paticular the dems, who seem to have a strangle hold on the black vote. I think black America needs to wake up and realize that we are being used by both parties.

McCain, VP? Nah.
All you have to do to answer this question is determine who Mitt Romney is most likely to choose and you will be set.

I like McCain, too, but...
I think Republicans can field a better ticket than one with McCain as veep. But they probably won't.

Can you say, "Welcome to the Oval Office, Mrs. Clinton" ??

Medved is......
a few french fries short of a happy meal.

If McCain is the VP
I can only pray for the continued health of the P.
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