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Wednesday, December 05, 2007
Michael Medved :: Townhall.com Columnist
Resisting the smear of a "tainted legacy"
by Michael Medved
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A nation with no pride in its past will feel little confidence in its future.

If citizens look upon the origins of their society with guilt and confusion, they’ll find scant reason to identify with its fate or to repair its shortcomings. The current notion that America’s undeniable power and privilege rest upon shameful foundations poisons our public discourse, embitters the national mood, and paralyzes all efforts for constructive change. We worry over anti-Americanism abroad, but echo its primary charges here at home. While all objective indications identify the residents of the United States as among the most fortunate human beings on the planet, much of the public refuses to acknowledge our blessings because, according the widespread acceptance of politically correct America-bashing lies, we don’t deserve them.

Those who embrace the idea that the USA came into being through vicious genocide against native populations, built its economy through the unique oppression of African slaves, facilitated corporate exploitation of immigrant masses, and damaged countless other nations with its imperialist policies, will naturally assume that we’re paying the price for these crimes and abuses – viewing an allegedly dark present as the inevitable product of a purportedly dark past. Negative assumptions about our guilty forebears allow contemporary Americans to wallow in self-pity without accepting blame of any sort for our much-discussed sorry state. In a typical aside, New York Times book reviewer William Grimes laments that American “success…came at a price….for the descendents of the colonists, who have inherited a tainted legacy.”

This ‘tainted legacy,’ this endlessly analyzed burden of embarrassment and apology, has brought a bittersweet or even decidedly sour flavor to great national celebrations that formerly featured joy and jingoism. For Thanksgiving, 2007, the Seattle City Schools sent out a letter signed by the district’s “Director of Equity, Race & Learning Support” and addressed to all faculty and staff warning that for many students, Turkey Day represented “a time of mourning, of remembering how a gift of generosity was rewarded by theft of land….As currently celebrated in this country, ‘Thanksgiving’ is a bitter reminder of 500 years of betrayal….”

Columbus Day provokes similar controversy on a yearly basis, with angry demonstrations against the unwelcome encroachments of white interlopers in the pristine New World paradise they polluted with their disease-ridden, gold-hungry presence. Our previous observance of the birthdays of George Washington and Abraham Lincoln has given way to the anodyne and insipid “Presidents Day,” in which we’re supposed to commemorate all inhabitants of the White House – the incompetent as well as the inspiring, the scoundrels along with the secular saints. We’ve added a holiday for Martin Luther King, Jr., but while sanctifying the memory of a great and courageous advocate of brotherhood we inevitably use the occasion to recall, yet again, our ugly history of racism. That same history now factors into the Fourth of July, with pointed reminders that some of the most prominent figures in the struggle for Independence (Jefferson, Washington, Patrick Henry) owned slaves. Meanwhile, when it comes to the sparklers, cherry bombs, and other fireworks that comprise the festival’s most hallowed tradition, many (if not most) of today’s celebrants secure such ordnance at Indian reservations – another ironic connection with the most painful elements of the nation’s past.

Even Memorial Day and Veterans Day have lost some of their flag-waving, patriotic fervor and taken on a distinctly mournful, even skeptical edge. We now make a point of recalling dubious as well as heroic wars, and taking note of those members of the military who sacrificed and served in our most controversial recent conflicts. The Vietnam Memorial in the nation’s capital has not only become an improbably popular tourist attraction, but now serves as a major focus for both national holidays honoring the armed forces –an association that takes the mood a great distance from the parades, picnics, brass bands and flapping banners of prior generations.

In fact, the Vietnam experience and the associated dislocations of the ‘60’s and ‘70’s helped to dissolve the patriotic consensus that had endured for two centuries, and promoted poisonous lies about the national character. The United States waged deeply controversial wars long before the conflict in South East Asia, but in all previous cases a sweeping, one-sided victory (as in the War with Mexico) or at least a concluding, climactic battle that gave the illusion of overall triumph (as the Battle of New Orleans provided a stirring coda for the otherwise frustrating War of 1812), allowed divisions to evaporate and wounds to heal. Losing a war, however, does nothing to solve the punishing disputes surrounding it and to some extent the brutal Communist conquest of Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos insured that the arguments about the war would resound through succeeding generations. U.S. failure gave credibility, if not confirmation, to those anti-war protestors who had decried our “imperialist” foreign policy, and chose to identify their nation as “Amerika” – the Germanic spelling meant to echo the Nazis, while the inserted “k” recalled our homegrown “KKK.” Once you’ve associated your native soil with genocidal fascists and white supremacist thugs, it’s tough to return to singing the praises of the land of the free and the home of the brave – even after ultimate victory in the Cold War, a new period of American hegemony, and the evanescent surge of unity and defensive pride following the terror attacks of 9/11.

By that time the tribalism of the ‘60’s had become a more or less permanent feature of our national life with identity politics and jostling interest groups taking the place of any homogenizing notion of Americanism. African-Americans, feminists, Latinos, gays, Asians, the disabled, hippies, Native Americans – each aggrieved segment of society demanded justice and redress, competing for recognition as the most victimized and gypped. The competitive victimhood encouraged even privileged people to affiliate with some marginalized cohort or synthetically assembled “community,” and to shun any assimilation into the bland American middle.

With all the suffering subgroups clamoring so colorfully for recognition and sympathy, the once respected mainstream looked suddenly, simultaneously, guilty and boring. “Black is Beautiful” and “Never Trust Anyone Over Thirty” became trendy slogans, while any suggestions that “White is Beautiful” or demands to “Respect Your Elders” drew only derision and hostility. The old national motto, “E Pluribus Unum” – out of many, one – sounded intolerant, disrespectful of difference and diversity, as the ideal of a melting pot gave way to a “gorgeous multicultural mosaic.” The concept of an overarching, unifying, non-ironic definition of American identity looked less and less plausible.

In 1904, Broadway giant George M. Cohan proudly and tunefully identified himself as –
“….a Yankee Doodle Dandy
A Yankee Doodle do or die.
A real live nephew of my Uncle Sam
Born on the Fourth of July.”

Eighty years later, Ron Kovic appropriated the phrase “Born on the Fourth of July” for the bestselling memoir and movie about his shattering experience as a paralyzed, abused, deeply disillusioned Vietnam vet. With the Oliver Stone film’s release in 1989, everyone who encountered the title received it with a snicker or smirk, understanding Cohan’s high-stepping glorification of flag and homeland as an embarrassing relic of insular and ignorant nationalism.

In a strange sense, this same isolation and exceptionalism fed the most fashionable of the anti-American lies: the public remained so unsophisticated about all the other palpably imperfect nations of the world that the USA’s shortcomings and failures looked singular, unprecedented. Histories of mass murder, backwardness and barbarity hardly diminish the fierce pride of other nationalities. Oscar winning director Ang Lee recently noted the overwhelming importance of unquestioning patriotism to all those who claim Chinese identity: “Chinese patriotism is not supposed to be negotiable. To us that’s a black-and-white thing. You sacrifice yourself – how can you let China down?” Politicians and pundits in the People’s Republic hardly agonize about thousands of years of conquest and colonialism over “lesser” peoples at the edges of the Middle Kingdom.

Similarly, European states with vastly more destructive and savage histories than the United States feel no need for apologies, hand-wringing or wrenching self-criticism. Guy Sorman, author of 20 books on French politics and public affairs, commented in the Wall Street Journal (December 4, 2007) about the themes in government schools in France: “The very content of education is discriminatory. The history of colonization is taught as if it were a glorious feature of French history. In Senegal, on his first official visit to Africa, Mr. Sarkozy regretted the violence of colonization but insisted on the good intentions of the French colonizers, out there to bring civilization to the ‘African man’ who had ‘not entered history.’”

Compared to other world powers, America deserves guilt less but struggles with it more. Our French cousins celebrate Bastille Day with abandon, joy and unapologetic pride, despite the ugly stains on the Tricolor. For Mexicans and for Mexican immigrants in the United States, Cinco de Mayo doesn’t provide an occasion for brooding meditation on the pain and disappointment and injustice that’s always characterized our turbulent neighbor to the south. Ironically, the one national holiday observed in America with the most unalloyed elation and pugnacious pleasure is St. Patrick’s Day, which seldom, even in the most boozy stupor, gives rise to remorse over the failings and foibles of the children of Eire.

Some might explain this American penchant for harsh self-criticism as a product of our higher ideals and more lofty aspirations. Through most of its long, tortured history, no one ever really expected Russia to serve as a “light to the nations” or a “shining city on a hill.” The United States, on the other hand, has long expected to remake the world in our image, and often succeeded in that endeavor. The fact that we have attempted more shouldn’t obscure the fact that we’ve also achieved more, and stumbled less other nations with significant roles in world affairs. In baseball, even the most fearsome (and well-paid) power hitters will strike out occasionally, or hit into double plays. It’s inevitable to feel special frustration when All Stars fail to deliver, but these high expectations shouldn’t focus attention on failures alone, and obscure all the home-runs and solid hits delivered the rest of the time. The soaring ambitions of the United States didn’t lead to humanity- crushing disasters, but instead helped to inspire more success for more people – Americans as well as others—than logic or experience would have deemed possible.

Acceptance of the bitter lies about America undermines the ongoing aspiration that alone can power the United States in its continued role as the mighty engine of human betterment. Without shared gratitude for the innumerable advantages that hard work and history provided to the present generation, we will suffer the insecurity, unease and self-hate associated with undeserved good fortune.

An American Indian academic and musician named David A. Yeagley (an enrolled member of the Comanche Nation) tells a sobering story about one of his students at Oklahoma State University-Oklahoma City. A “tall and pretty” girl with amber hair and brown eyes, she spoke out in a class discussion about patriotism. “Look, Dr. Yeagley,” she declared, “I don’t see anything about my culture to be proud of. It’s all nothing. My race is just nothing.”

“Look at your culture,” she continued. “Look at American Indian tradition. Now I think that’s really great. You have something to be proud of. My culture is nothing.”

Concerning this unforgettable interchange, Professor Yeagley observed: “The Cheyenne people have a saying: A nation is never conquered until the hearts of its women are on the ground.

“Who had conquered Rachel’s people? What had led her to disrespect them? Why did she behave like a woman of a defeated tribe?

“They say that a warrior is measured by the strength of his enemies. As an Indian, I am proud of the fact that it took the mightiest nation on earth to defeat me.

“But I don’t feel so proud when I listen to Rachel. It gives me no solace to see the white man self-destruct. If Rachel’s people are ‘nothing,’ what does that say about mine?”

And what does it say about each of us if we see ourselves as heirs to “nothing” – to only a tainted legacy and a heritage of shame? To accept and recycle prevalent slanders about our country shows neither courage nor sophistication, while promoting impotence, self-pity and paralysis. An accurate appreciation of the past remains altogether indispensable to the survival of communal connection, individual liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

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Michael Medved's daily syndicated radio talk show reaches one of the largest national audiences every weekday between 3 and 6 PM, Eastern Time. Michael Medved is the author of eleven books, including the bestsellers What Really Happened to the Class of '65?, Hollywood vs. America, Right Turns and, most recently, The Ten Big Lies About America.
 
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Thoughts on America
Is there any nation on Earth that has done so much good in such a short time as the United States? We have liberated billions, and offer hope to billions more. It is for this reason that the would be tyrants of the world hate us.
To paraphrase Lee Iacocca, if you find a better country , move there.

Who Is Feeling Guilty?
I don't feel any guilt about anything that someone else did. If you are guilty, feel guilty, you cannot foist it off onto me. I may feel sorrow for something but do send me a grief counselor. Counselors are needed by the media (almost all), the education establishment and book writers, leftists and liberals, and just about anyone who thinks that I owe them something. Am I the only sane one in this room? To the elitists who have money and preach their gospel of repeatedly helping the poor through my taxes -- give away all of your money and quit talking about it.

Isn't it nice...
to have the kuxury of hating your country while basking in the very things that make it great?

A Melting Pot combines all the elements within it and when poured into a mold, creates one form with diffrent elements. These elements give the form its strength and character. Separating the elements within the form creates fissures and weakens the cohesiveness of the form. Eventually the form becomes inrecognizable, as the elemets divided and become separatee. Then you just have a bunch of elements with no form.

People immigrate to America to become Americans, not to be ex-patriots. The Multi-Culturalists will really be our downfall as they make America just another continent which will be torn by multi-cultural strife.

But what about truth?
Mr. Medved seems to suggest that Americans ignore historical facts for a feel-good nationalism. While his flag-waving tribute to American exceptionalism will rally his loyal readers to further exhortations about all that is wrong with the left-wingers in the country, it isn't grounded in reality.

It is possible to recognize American history with the negatives AND positives and still love this country. Medved seems to demonize a large segment of the population, while ironically badmouthing those who seek to fully understand our nation's past. I don't think he can have it both ways.

It is unfortunate that most folks(younger generations especially) don't know anything about our country's historical past, but that's another article for another time.

Get Out
If you're embarrassed to be an American, get out.

If you believe we have no culture worth considering or that our culture is something the rest of the world ought not be subjected to, get out.

If you believe our history is nothing but racism, slavery, mistakes, genocide, and imperialism, get out.

If you think we aren't the best nation on earth, get out.

We don't want you, we don't need you. You're a bunch of societal parasites. You take and take and take the freedoms you are given here, and you give nothing in return. It would be better for the rest of us if you weren't here.

No one should be forced to live in a place where they are unhappy. Everyone should have the opportunity to live where they wish, presuming they are willing to do the work required to get there, and live within that society's rules. If you're not happy here, go live somewhere else. If we aren't the best nation in the world, tell me who is better, and then go there yourself.

But you won't, will you. You know, deep down, that I'm right (along with every other American patriot who will post to this page). You know that not only are we the best, but #2 isn't even close. Even after all this leftist bravo sierra about hating America, and multiculturalism, and tolerance-and-Diversity (capital D), and environmentalism, and so forth, we're still the freest, richest, most powerful and most influential force in the world, and the world would suffer if we weren't.


Venom From The Pardoned
Good article Michael but unfortunately, you are pis*ing in the ocean. Your effort here will have no effect. The current crowd running this country and teaching our children were either in sympathy with or recipients of Jimmy Carter's exoneration by pardon at the end of the Viet Nam conflict. These draft dodgers and demonstrators, to include the Chicago 7 and Jane Fonda, all think they were right and everyone else was wrong. The war resistors believe Jimmy Carter just sprinkled "holy water" on the heads of the deserving. NOT SO, THEY WERE UNAMERICAN SCUM THEN AND THEY STILL ARE TODAY.

redneck
I don't think Medved is going after those who wave the flag. He's going after those who wag their fingers at flag wavers. The people who say "I don’t see anything about my culture to be proud of. It’s all nothing. My race is just nothing." The people who take the freedom we have as a given, and abuse it to abuse their own country.

re: Happy yappy Jack
While you willingly bask in the glory of blind allegience to a nation whose history is constantly revised from reality, your perception is reality only to about 33% percent of the USA population and a very, very, very small handful of people outside its borders.
Good luck with your odd's there......

Redneck
You seem to miss the point. Melved never suggests we ignore the negative events of the past but that we put them in perspective. The PC crowd would have us whipping ourselves in hairshirts before the Hollywood Priests of the elitistleftistgroupthink of NeoLiberalism.

Does anyone lament the wrongs done to the Neandrothals or croagnagnans? They were each in turn hunted and persecuted to extinction yet very few Homo-Sapiens even acknowledge this "tragedy."

The history of mankind is built on conflict and conquest. We have always been at odds with a hostile environment and even ourselves. The continual lament over the past is unhealthy and contrary to how one deals with issues. It's time to move on and realize that we have won several battles in the struggle for survival and take what lessons we can from how we won those battles.

Spelling corrections
It should have been Neanderthals and cro magnons. Having no edit feature, I cannot fix my mistake, only point out corrections.

Educated "fools" say "there is no God"
God and His principles outlined in the Holy Scriptures were the cornerstone which guided the founding of this greatest country in the history of man. God and the Bible have now been relegated to the category equal to Greek Mythology and other fables (go to your public library and check it out).

When we focus on the failings of certain men in our history, it’s understandable to feel a certain amount of shame. But when we look at the end result and recognize God’s Hand in using flawed Americans to produce a juggernaut of relentless goodness that influences the entire world... one can only experience that rare combination of pride, patriotism, humility and gratefulness that is unique to the U.S.A.

Balance
Somewhere between the rantings of Happy Jake's "GET OUT" and hate America firsters like Ramsey Clark are the masses who can recognize the greatness of this nation and its history while rightfully criticizing certain actions, incidents and conditions that are also a part of our legacy.

A responsible parent doesn't praise a child when he/she brings home Fs on a report card, nor does a responsible parent ignore that child when he/she brings home As.
While we have a lot more As than Fs to be proud of, it's counter-productive to think we can't learn from our mistakes and discuss how to improve.

crumbs
What reality is that? How am I blindly basking. I never said (nor will I) that we should utterly ignore the problems in our past. That is not, by any stretch of anyone's immagination, my point. There's a big difference between acknowledging the past and being "embarrassed" to be an American.

Besides, as I said, if there's a better nation out there, tell me what it is. If there is a place in this world where people are better off than they are right here and right now, I'd like to know about it.

And if my exhortations for those who hate America to leave would cause 2/3 of the population to leave? Fine. Let them.

In other countries, even those who disagree with the government still love the country and what it stands for. That's not true here. The people who hate America hate America, not the Bush Administration, not Congress, but the country itself and its culture and its values. It didn't matter when Clinton was President, there were still plenty of people who hated America (and were thus pleased when one of their own was in the White House.)

Crumbs
By the way, it's "Jake"

Good discussion
Thank you to the posters who are resisting the temptation to lapse into nativistic tirades. It is difficult to respond sensibly to blind emotion.

However, everyone seems to share this sense of American exceptionalism. I just don't see it in terms of the historical record. Yes, America has has a long distinguised list of impressive accomplishments. It also has an equally impressive list of screw-ups and missteps. Which list should we, as a nation, focus on?

I would stick with my original argument that Medved wishes to downplay or even omit historical facts that fail to fit in with his nationalisic interpretation of U.S. history, sticking with mythology over truthfulness, especially when our past is not quite so rosy (i.e his examples of genocide, slavery, labor exploitation, and imperialism). They all happened right here in the good ol' USA, whether we like it or not.

That said, America has also served as a beacon of liberty throughout the world. We have served as an example of hope to millions of oppressed persons living under despotic regimes. But that does not make us immune to the same issues, troubles, and miscues that every other nation on the planet is capable of making. There is nothing special in our founding documents that prevents this, except for an active and informed citizenry that knows our entire history, warts and all.

It's rather interesting to note that over 200 years after our founding, we still cannot define what our "country" really is? Is embodied in our friends, neighbors and hometowns? Is it our states or geographic regions? Is it our current elected government?

The "love it or leave it" crowd seems to profess undying devotion to their country, while hating most of the people that live here. That puts them on equal footing with the Berkeley P.C crowd to me.








History?
redneck writes: It is unfortunate that most folks(younger generations especially) don't know anything about our country's historical past, but that's another article for another time.

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I recall my "teacher" telling the class that the founders of our country were a bunch of slave owners that didn't want to pay taxes and used the uninformed and uneducated to fight a war that only benefited the rich. This was all good until she was asked which of the founders actually benefited from the war and which ones lost their fortunes or suffered financial hardship by supporting the Revolutionary War. Suddenly she had nothing to say.

25 years later we still have "respected" sources claiming the same or reluctant to acknowledge the truth.
http://www.snopes.com/history/american/pricepaid.asp

Far from benefiting from the Revolutionary War all the signers suffered hardships (loss of home, family, possessions, and status) that could have been avoided had they not led the charge against the crown.

Many other founding fathers suffered similar hardships - Washington himself lost a majority of his land holdings by supporting the revolution.

Don't let the leftist revisionist blind you from the facts.

Utah
It's worth noting that my rantings really only apply to a very few people. I've known plenty of people who lean quite a ways left of me who don't hate America, and I don't believe that everyone who mentions slavery or the Indian issues (lacking a better term) "hates" America. I'm speaking specifically to those who DO actively hate America. Those who believe we have no culture to speak of, those who think Thanksgiving should be a day of mourning, and those who believe that the sins of yesterday totally invalidate any good we have done in our history (which, by the way, far outweighs the bad.)

People like the folks in Berkeley, CA (the town, not the University) who did not want their firefighters carying US flags on their trucks right after 9-11 (as many others were doing) because that patriotism would be seen as inciting hatred. (I don't remember the word they used but it was something along the lines of "antagonizing.")

THAT'S the people who I think need to get out.

redneck
The problem with your statement is that the bad the US has done does NOT equal the good. The good we have delivered to the world actually outweighs the bad by quite a margin.

Yes, we had slavery for about 250 years (or so), but we also were instrumental in ending slavery in the developed world.

We were the first to prove that democracy could work, and we were the most successful at it for about 100 years. Even now we are the standard-bearer for freedom. Countries look at us and decide what to copy. That, by itself, mitigates the troubles in our past. The countries that are free are free because we proved it could be done, even on a massive scale.

No one thinks about that because people are so focused on slavery or the Indian problems or Vietnam or our supposed Imperialism.

It is at least as irresponsible to ignore the good that we've done as it is to ignore the bad. It's all part of our history, and we need to understand it all to keep going in the right direction in our future.

Redneck (Cont.)
As to what defines the country, whether it's our friends, neighbors and hometown or its our state or its our government:

The answer is "yes." In addition to our freedom and liberty and individualism.

M.Medved
continues to fight ghosts.
There are no such people( or may be minuscule in number)
We all love out country, some are just a little more critical of the love of your life , then others...

a few points
If you think we aren't the best nation on earth, get out.

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Why must we think we are the best nation on earth to live here or love our country? I don't know what is the best country on earth, nor do I care. Most have elements of good and bad and all change over time. I do know I love this country, love all the opportunities living here has provided me, and basically love living here but I also will continue to acknowledge our failings and I will not make some blanket meaningless statement that we are absolutely the best nation that the world has ever or will ever see.

HappyJake, I'm glad you qualified your initial post, which, to be honest, did sound like a rant.

Utahnotmormon, thank you for some balance on this thread.

Mr. Medved, when did St. Patrick's day become a national holiday?

Perspective
What comes to mind whenever this particular subject is debated is the collective "guilt" certain members of our society seem to think we should all be feeling about our country's past sins.

And if such sins were presented in perspective with all the good that has taken place, it wouldn't be such a big deal. But there are those who feel the need to "revise" history or dwell only on the sins whose voices are given way too much airtime.

There is not a person alive - not even those whose biographies are filled with selfless accomplishments - who hasn't done their share of "wrong" things.

Why therefore wouldn't a nation of such people not have similar traits?

We should not forget our past wrongs - nor should we dwell in them. The key is to learn from them and try not to repeat them.

Any honest inventory of the good and the bad done by our great nation will have a very healthy weighting on the "good" side of the ledger.

When celebrating the good this nation has done, we need to begin ignoring the guilt the naysayers would like to drop on us. They can feel guilty enough for us all.

An Observation
sasha_l writes: M.Medved continues to fight ghosts.
There are no such people( or may be minuscule in number) We all love out country, some are just a little more critical of the love of your life , then others...

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Perhaps you've never heard of the ACLU? A group founded on the concept of destroying our way of life and government.

odd
While the French celebrate Bastille day and the Mexicans celebrate Cinco de Mayo, what part of the the country does Medved live in that he thinks the US does not sufficiently celebrate the 4th of July? This seems similar to the fuss over a supposed war on Christmas which seems to require blindness to maintain.

It is true that the French have done a poor job of dealing with their history as an occupier which has led to the riots both recently and a couple of years ago. This is the aspect of France that Medved wishes we were to emulate?

Lon
Talk about deflecting the issue!

You don't see an assault on the public celebration of Christmas? (Never mind the religious aspect of it).

Wow...


How Great Is America?
In America, if you denigrate our government, our history or our economy. You become the subject of a column by a syndicated columnist and are reamed out in The Comments by Happy Jake.

In The USSR, Castro’s Cuba, Saddam’s Iraq, Bin Laden’s Afghanistan and other Tyrannical Regimes, if you denigrate the government, their history or the economy, you become a CORPSE!

NUFF SAID! You will NEVER find anyplace better than America. However, this is a free country. If you hate America, you are free to LEAVE!

The subtext here
is that if you find fault, or cite mistakes from the past, you hate your country.

I've heard it all before.

My Country, Right or Wrong, My Country.
Considering my ancestors did not arrive in this country until the early part of the 20th century, I feel no "guilt" about what happened before or after 1492. Our country has done good and bad things. What country hasn't? Canada? Anyway, telling both sides of history is what should be done, however, what is stressed is the negative. That mindset just perpetuates the "victim" and "repressed" and "entitlement" mentality that permeates American culture. That will conitnue to make "equality" a golden fleece.

Touj.
In your case - the world of black and white with nary a shade of gray - you couldn't be more correct.

I'm sure there are many Mexicans willing to trade countries with you.

They may be small, but...
they certainly are vocal.
Okay, perhaps in the past there may have been some over the top chest thumping on the part of the USA. But does that mean we should have to take the other extreme and become a nation of self-deprecating, iconoclastic, breast-beating zealots shouting "mea culpa" at every turn?
Because that's what the left has latched onto; from the MSM, teachers and college professors and the Marxist politicos, they continually preach what is wrong with our country (wrong according to their way of thinking, mind you) while completely ignoring what is right with the USA.
But then, to here their preachings, there appears to be nothing right with the USA. (Again according to their way of thinking.)
And, yes, even with all our faults, we have become the greatest nation the world has ever seen.
And that's a fact. Like it or not.

The acid test
Here's a way to find out who believes in "tainted legacy" and who does not.

Ask him the following question:

"On balance, from 1789 through 1999, has America done more good than harm in the world, or has America done more harm than good in the world?"

It's disheartening to see how many will say America has been a net force for harm in the world. Mostly from the left, but even a few on the extreme right.

(I deliberately posed the question for the 1789-1999 time frame, so as to factor out the Bush Derangement Syndrome)

Redneck
I would put Medved's historical knowledge up against yours any day of the week.

The man is extremely smart. If you believe he has made historical fabrications, perhaps you could give me an example.

Recently he had numerous callers blasting him, because he had the audacity to claim that Native American Genocide was not a mandated practice of the United States government. He waited and waited for someone to make reference to a document of any kind proving that assertion. In the end, he gets the same reference to a letter written by some forgotten soldier about small pox infested blankets.

Of course when you point out the lack of evidence regerding these kinds of horrible acts, you get the response, "The winners write the history books, and they hide their evil acts,"...or some such nonsense. In other words, "We dont need any proof." Convenient.

The truth is, we know this is far from a perfect nation, but all things considered, I think it is the best place in the world to live in the modern age. Moreover, where historical evils are concerned, we are hardly one of the worst offenders.

Primus54
I don't see an assault on public celebration of Christmas which is ubiquitous. I do see an assault on government sponsored celebrations of Christmas. But why is this something that needs government support?

Here's how I see it
I don't have time to acknowledge you by name, but you'll know who you are:

We can teach about our past, both good and bad, and use the bad to teach lessons about how to avoid the bad things in the future.

I'm tired of the guilt being thrust upon me because I happen to be White, especially since my family did not come to America until the early 20th century, and then cleaned toilets of rich families and worked in coal mines. Plus, if every other group gets to kvetch about unjust things done to them, then I should to: being of Polish descent, I have beefs with the Russians, Mongols, Ukrainians, Ottomans, Vikings and Germans, just to name a few.

But the fact is this: Dwelling on the past does nothing to help us in the future, except to make sure that we don't repeat the bad stuff.

Liberals dwell on the past like Sunnis and Shiites and other "victims" do - to WHAT END?

For those of you who are intent on constantly pointing out the BAD without ever acknowleding the GOOD, WHAT IS YOUR PURPOSE? That someone apologize? Who? All those that did wrong are dead? Are their children and grandchildren supposed to apologize? I thought that such things were forbidden by the Constitution and common law in the U.S. Do you want money? Again, from whom?

If you claim that your teaching of ALL the negatives and NONE of the positives does not mean that you don't hate America, then what do you hope to gain by it? What is the purpose of it?

Can you explain it? Don't try deflecting me with non-sequiters or answering my question with a question either. JUST ANSWER THE QUESTION.

Because I see no point to it. I love this country despite the bad. And yes, if you think you can find a better place to live, then please, do go there and let me know how it went.

Georgetwin, I liked what you said - how very very true!

Lon
What is wrong with village/town/city Christmas (okay - "Holiday") displays? Having such displays in no way is an establishment of a national religion - which is the ONLY thing the U.S. Constitution addresses.

It is our local government that is charged with caring for the public lands and streets - the common areas, if you will. I'm not even suggesting they have to pay for it - but don't you enjoy the colored lights and garlands decorating the street lights? Or the decorated tree on the town square?

Just why are people so "offended" by this?

It is political correctness run amok. And THAT offends me!

answer to a question
"On balance, from 1789 through 1999, has America done more good than harm in the world, or has America done more harm than good in the world?"

Ok, let's suppose I think America has done more harm than good in the world overall (in fact, I think the opposite...the US has done more good than bad overall), does that mean I necessarily hate America? Not at all. If you were to ask a German citizen the question "On balance, did Germany do more good than harm in the world during the 20th century?" they could very reasonably answer "yes" but that doesn't mean they feel no patriotism to their country or culture. Talking about the bad does not equal denying the good. It's this constant badgering of people as being unpatriotic or America-haters when they criticize our country's actions (past and present) that drives me crazy when in fact they usually are just being reflective about their own country's history.

ca
I see your point, but I think what you are witnessing is a long overdue backlash from people who sat silently through much of the 1960s and forward, as the numbers and volume of America's critics grew until it became deafening and dishonest. Many people have simply lost patience with it and have turned a deaf ear.

Do I think all of America's critics are unpatriotic America-haters? No. But there are many whose words and actions are indecipherable from some who are.

Primus54
There is no shortage of lights where I live, so I am not sure why this is something that the government should be spending money on. Would you be equally untroubled if the displays were Islamic symbols? I have no reason to believe that they would be any less pretty. I don't believe it will happen because the government does not want to make the statement that we are an Islamic country.

My parents generation offered a prayer to jesus each morning in school. This was true despite the fact that they want to a school which was overwhelmingly jewish. This is one of the reasons that there are so many atheistic jews. After all they got the lesson at an early age that what prayers one offered was a matter of social control rather than belief.

Personally, I think that some of the fights are silly, and would not expend much capital on this issue with minor cases (writing into blogs does not involve expending much capital) but the fact is that this is an issue in which the atheists are right. These are, possibly innocuous, violations of the first Amendment. They too often involve a dominant religious group trying to make clear that if you aren't one of them you aren't a full member of society. And that is not something government should be a part of.

But I will still enjoy the blow up grinches as I drive home tonight.

for ca
ca writes: "If you were to ask a German citizen the question 'On balance, did Germany do more good than harm in the world during the 20th century?' they could very reasonably answer yes but that doesn't mean they feel no patriotism to their country or culture."

That's because you deliberately limited your question about Germany to just the 20th century. Thus Germans can still point to Goethe, Schiller, Kant, Germany's advances in science (they were the world leader in the 19th century), Bismarck's introduction of social reforms like a Social Security program, etc., as sources of pride and heritage. Germany has a 500 year long history. Nobody can deny that Germany had an illustrious track record, at least till the 20th century. And thus they can claim that Nazism was an aberration.

I didn't limit my question about America to one century. I asked about nearly its entire history on this planet.

If most of your country's history is shameful, not just one period of it, then on what could your patriotism possibly be based? Isn't it irrational to love something that is fundamentally flawed? What do you owe your loyalty and love to? The physical land? Your neighbors? Your tribe?

American patriotism was based on the admiration Americans had for their nation's ideals and for its long history of trying to live up to those ideals. If both are fundamentally flawed, then there is no longer any basis for patriotism.


America is great!
America has done more good than bad in the world.
America has it's blemishes no doubt! We shouldn't hide or downplay anything we've done, though. Face those mistakes. Correct them.
I don't have any problem with the USA, just some overzealous people in her fan club get a little touchy!

FAIR/EQUAL MIDEAST
You really need to look before you leap.
Mr. Medved does have a child at risk in Israel. A fact he's frequently mentioned with both pride and trepidation
And if you think it's unfair that Israel exist, and that it's unequal, how do you explain the rather extraordinary differential between the amount of territory held by Arab/Muslim nations that won't allow Christians or Jews to live as equal citizens, While the Jewish nation of Israel, tiny though it may be that allows Arabs and Muslims to live as equal citizens with parliamentary representation.
BTW - I'm truly delighted that you didn't bother to check out the name you signed with merkin, or did you? It really is fitting.

Tainted Legacy
It is seldom I agree with Mr. Medved however, this is one of the most powerful insightful articles he has ever penned.
No doubt, the fabric of this once great nation is decaying proportionate to to the degree of immigration. Those migrating no longer wish to assimilate merely squat, receive what they can, maintain allegence to their mother nation in hopes of returning one day and live on Social Security.
The age of the "Proud American" is disappearing like sands on a beach as waves roll in and out and until some sort of breakwater is constructed, I fear the erosion will continue.

Jake
I've decided to henceforth ignore anyone who starts a post with, or includes in the text, ad hominem attacks or language designed to denigrate others. Such people are obliously immature or mentally deficient and are not engaging in discussion to gain information or insight, but to be noticed.

Bravo, Bob_C, I agree with you
I skip the posts that say, "So-and-so is an idiot/gay/eats babies", etc, etc. It may be trite to say, but such posts really just show that their authors have nothing to say.

Some people put their Internet muscles on and just start spewing.

You can tell who the serious people are, and who's just taking up (disc) space.

Hillary delenda est.

Realism about history
Every nation on this planet has a history that can be characterized in terms of good and evil deeds, aggression, conquest, oppression, and the like, along with all sorts of postive deeds. History is wht it is (to borrow from Bill Parcells), and all the whining among leftists and celebrating on the right doesn't change a thing. A realistic view of the history of one's own country requires honest assessments, not partisan propagandizing.

People are always tempted to use history to teach moral lessons of one sort or another; it is a habit to be resisted.

Get to the source
I believe that every American could be accused of having a "tainted legacy", if only their flaws and mistakes are recorded and reported throughout history. Good and heroic figures like Washington and Jefferson could be described simply as slave owners in a history book, and that is how they would be remembered.

It is no different if that one person is instead a whole country. Any country's legacy is what is presented as history. Find an American History book from the 1950's and compare it to a history book written for today's students. It would not seem to be the same country.

The U.S.A., for its entire history has been the most generous, the most charitable, the most heroic, and the most forgiving country in the history of the world. Children are not taught that today, and they're not taught that for a reason. The people controlling education today don't want American children to learn about what a wonderful gift our forefathers gave to the rest of the world, and therefore, won't teach the facts. The facts don't fit their adjenda.

As Nikita said, "We don't need to fight you. We will destroy you from within." His followers are still trying.

During the last 231 years of our history, there has been no better place to live than The United States of America. Don't let the wrong people educate your children. It can make all the difference during the next 231 years of our history.

Please, not another concensus thinker
re: crumbsrmine

What 33% believe to be reality is irrevelant. Reality is reality, no matter what "the concensus" says. Reality is objective, not subject to a vote. I suspect that is a real mental stumbling block for the left and the Ron Paul right.

Legacy irrelevant
How we got here is much less important than where we are going. If you really feel some level of individual angst over what happened generations ago, let me suggest that instead of castigating your culture and society (while of course disowning them and thereby absolving yourself of any personal responsibility) that you recognize the awesome scope of the good you can do within this society and for the entire world community. Don't worry about fussing about what the President or Congress or Oprah is or isn't doing. Pick out a problem and fix it. "Let YOUR light so shine ..."

I am PROUD to be an American
All countries have done things which they later regret, but few if any have done so much good in the world as the United States. For much of our history, the white eurocentric peoples of our country dominated it's population and its politics. They fought by far the bloodiest war in our history to end slavery. People telling you the civil war was about anything else are simply ignorant or, if they are from the South would prefer to believe otherwise. Bloody Kansas wasn't bloody because of tariff disputes. I could give endless examples. However, my eldest son came home from school in second grade and asked me,"Weren't there ANY good white people?" He was taught only that the founders of the country held slaves,Lincoln fought for the Union and did not care about slavery, that black people were only countedn the constitution as a fraction of a person. Of course, no such thing was in the constitution. It refers only to people held in involuntary servitude. The slave holding south wanted slaves counted the same as free men, giving a slave holder effectively more representation in congress. It was the FREE states, that did not want slaves counted towards congressional apportionment. SLAVES. Free men of any race were to be counted the same. Not one person in 100 knows this truth. Teach your children, teach your neighbors, teach your co-workers. Don't let lies go unchallenged.
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