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Wednesday, August 15, 2007
Michael Medved :: Townhall.com Columnist
Huckabee: He could be the "real deal"
by Michael Medved
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The more I think about Mike Huckabee’s stunning 18% showing at the Iowa straw poll the more I’m persuaded that he could be the exciting, unifying conservative standard bearer the GOP base has been craving.

Forget about Fred Thompson--- his long delay in entering the race makes him look increasingly like the Mario Cuomo of the Republican Party. Remember when the New York Governor dithered endlessly about announcing his candidacy in 1992? At the time, he seemed to be trying out a new slogan: “A Mind is a terrible thing…. To make Up.” As an actor, Fred Thompson might like to take a crack at playing Hamlet, but the indecision bit doesn’t work well for a Presidential contender.

Moreover, his wife Jeri (described by the New York Times as his much-younger “trophy wife”) has already won a reputation as a controversial “dragon lady” for firing and intimidating staff on his non-campaign. Her glamorous presence seems to re-enforce Thompson’s Hollywood connections, and that’s not a great thing for a Republican candidate.

Moreover, Thompson’s campaign speeches so far have been distinctly underwhelming in their impact, showing none of the folksiness and force of his TV character Arthur Branch or his brief radio commentaries, for that matter.

I challenge any die hard Fred Heads to watch tape of Thompson addressing a live audience and then to contrast it with tape of Huckabee working a crowd – or performing at one of the televised debates. There’s no comparison: Huckabee spontaneously deploys the warmth, humor, gift of gab, accessibility and kindness that we haven’t seen in a GOP Presidential contender since Reagan. He comes across as a regular guy who cares about other regular guys. He also possesses a rare ability to craft catchy phrases that connect with people. As he told audiences in Iowa, “One of the things I think I’ve brought to the process is unapologetically I’m a conservative – but I’m not mad at anybody over it.”

And it’s tough for anyone, from any faction in the party, to feel mad at Mike Huckabee.

Each of the other front-runners have managed to tick off some substantial segment of their fellow Republicans: McCain for his support of campaign finance restrictions and immigration reform, as well as his opposition to Bush tax cuts; Giuliani for his moderate positions on social issues like guns and abortion and his complicated and much-too-colorful personal life; Romney for his slick shifts in position on a range of issues and (unfairly) for his devout commitment to a controversial church. It’s true that some militant secularists will feel uncomfortable with Huckabee’s fervent Christianity and his background as a highly successful Baptist pastor, but those who are put off by his genial brand of religiosity are probably unavailable as GOP voters in any event.

Aside from his likely ability to unify the party, two other factors argue for Huckabee as the strongest possible GOP standard bearer.

First, his distinctly blue-collar, proudly working class background will help to destroy the notion that Republicans are the party of Wall Street and the country club. Mitt Romney may be worth $250 million and is the son of a governor, John McCain’s the son (and grandson) of high ranking admirals, but Huckabee’s the first member of his family ever to graduate from high school. Obama and Romney boast degrees from Harvard, Hillary went to Wellesley and Yale, and McCain graduated (barely) from Annapolis, while Huckabee earned his degree (in two-and-a-half years) from Ouachita Baptist University. During reconstruction on the Arkansas governor’s mansion, the Huckabees (he’s been married to his high school sweetheart for 33 years) lived proudly in a trailer to save the taxpayers money. And speaking of double-wides…. his recent loss of 110 pounds (and completion of numerous grueling marathons) helps him connect with the American majority that fights the daily battle of the bulge. After freakishly fit contenders like the Skull-and-Bones duo Bush and Kerry, it’s refreshing to consider a candidate who’s so much more like the rest of us. The old Democratic class warfare tactics simply won’t work against Huckabee—his personal style and background make it impossible to associate him with some privileged elite.

The second big advantage of a Huckabee nomination involves his ability to suppress any third party vote on the right. A recent analysis by the Rasmussen polling operation suggests that in the likely event that Hillary becomes the Democratic candidate we’re in for another extremely close election. The American people have already largely made up their minds about Senator Clinton --- her name produces very few responses of “undecided” or “don’t know.” Unless she commits some major gaffe after getting the nomination, her vote total won’t fall below 45%, and stands little chance of rising above 50%. This means that the election – like those of ’92, ’96, and 2000 – will almost certainly produce a President with a popular vote minority, with fringe party candidates playing a decisive role. In 2000, Ralph Nader on the left drew nearly three times as many votes as Pat Buchanan on the right; without the Nader factor, Al Gore would have won a clear-cut victory no matter how the votes were counted. In 2008, there will definitely be more third and fourth party candidates – former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney (or Nader again) on the left, and Alan Keyes or Minuteman Jim Gilchrist or, conceivably, Tom Tancredo on the right. If Rudy Giuliani became Republican standard bearer, an angry right-winger could draw 3% or more of the vote and easily tilt the election toward Hillary. With a Huckabee candidacy, on the other hand, a self-righteous anti-abortion, anti-immigration, anti-globalism fringe campaign becomes less powerful (and less necessary, for that matter). Those who worry that international conspirators are subverting American sovereignty as part of some CFR or Neo-Con conspiracy will feel far less fearful of Huckabee than of any other major candidate.

Finally, there’s the current press infatuation with the former Arkansas governor – a rare blessing for any conservative. They like Huckabee not only because he’s charming and funny, but because the media love a good underdog story. An under-funded candidate who comes out of nowhere (and Hope, Arkansas is just about nowhere) to challenge the big boys makes a great, inspiring yarn and helps sell newspapers or win TV viewers. The other contenders have all done something (or many things) to alienate the press: Giuliani made enemies of most national media during his tough-guy years as Mayor of New York, McCain looked like he betrayed his cherished “maverick” status when he reached out to conservative Christians, Thompson has delayed and dilly-dallied much too long before entering the race and facing the press, while Mitt Romney has begun to earn a reputation for smiling evasiveness in confronting tough questions.

Of course, the current press infatuation with Huckabee (even from the New York Times) probably won’t last, but the new Man from Hope needs to milk it while he can.

The big negatives the press will no doubt begin to attach to the surging Huckabee campaign involve the notion that he’s just too religious (and doesn’t believe in undirected, random Darwinism) and that he’s got no experience in foreign policy. In response, Huckabee’s defenders might cite a prior Governor of Arkansas who also had no foreign policy background but became a popular two-term president, and a recent Governor of Texas who also entered the White House without a resume of meaningful diplomatic encounters.

Moreover, when it comes to holding elective office, Huckabee served the people of his state for thirteen years – three years as Lieutenant Governor and ten as Governor – giving him more experience as an elected public official than Giuliani, Romney, Thompson, Obama, Edwards, Hillary – or George W. Bush. .

In other words, the arguments in behalf of a Huckabee candidacy remain potent and persuasive while those against his nomination seem easily deflected.

Does this summary of his flavor-of-the-week status amount to an endorsement?

Not exactly, since McCain, Giuliani and Romney also seem to me great and worthy contenders who deserve a chance to make their cases to the people.

But in one sense, I’m ready for an enthusiastic commitment to take one step forward with ‘Aw Shucks Huck: as far as I’m concerned, the former Governor of Arkansas has already earned an endorsement as a first tier candidate for the Republican nomination for the Presidency. His inclusion among the elite survivors of the early winnowing process can only strengthen the campaign, the party and, ultimately, the country.

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Rudy/Huckabee 2008
I think Rudy will win the GOP nomination and Huckabee is positioning himself to be the obvious VP choice which will help both of them -- Huckabee helps enhance Rudy's credibility among conservatives. And as VP on a the GOP ticket, Huckabee gets national exposure that will automatically put him into the top tier for a run in 2012 (if a dem wins) or, more likely, 2016 when the GOP wins next year.

A Chunk of Huck
If Medved likes Huckabee, I should probably be very leery of him. As a conservative, he may talk a good game, but when it comes to supporting the conservative points, he better be more true than Medved does. Hopefully, Huck won't try to just cut you off if you don't agree to him...I'd like to see a video or two of him in action in front of a hostile crowd - defending his views.

Any out there?

Beware of the attack.....
Mike, you keep attacking Fred Thompson. My question to you is, are you afraid of FDT?

Mike Huckabee is a nice guy. But what I am afraid of is a Rudy McRomney candidacy, or a HillBillary/Osamabama coronation. Do we want a true conservative to accend to the Presidency? I do, but we cannot keep fighting amongst ourselves to allow a Rudy to waltz into being the standard bearer for the Republican Party nomination.

Enough is enough.

Without appologies.........

Medved go back to movies and...
...leave politics to the REAL conservatives.

Saw you on CNN last night, Michael, saying that Imus should generously PAYOFF THE WHOLE RUTGERS TEAM!
He should be punished for upsetting the girls who were then ROUNDLY PRAISED by the entire MSM and OPRAH! Methinks these ladies were not harmed a whit!

Mike Missed one:
Mike missed another reason to have Hope for Huckabee: He endorses the FairTax.

He may not be strong, and I know he's got some problems with his conservative credentials, proposing more government programs, but he does openly endorse the FairTax. Until someone else gets in, (where are you Fred??) the FairTax endorsement pushes him over the top, in my book.

Maybe Thompson/Huckabee?

Time for the GOP Moderates to shine
"but we cannot keep fighting amongst ourselves to allow a Rudy to waltz into being the standard bearer for the Republican Party nomination."
There's no fighting -- the religious right and the traditional conservatives blew it -- they abused their power, went too far right, and squandered their opportunity to take the GOP into the next decade -- it is time for us GOP moderates, the "Giuliani-Schwarzenegger" wing of the party, to lead and provide the populist message that will give us back the Presidency and the Congress in 2008.

Huckabee
He's a solid candidate. I've been saying many of the same things long before his name was well known.

I hope he's given a fair shot. He'll surprise you.

Well thought out Dream
Nice idea, but it is just a pipe dream. In reality there is no way this guy can make it. He does not have the structure, the money, nor the real buzz. He has his 15min of fame and that is it.

Unfortunatly that is reality and unless you are a pure fake politican, you will never have the chance at this position. Times have changed and this is just the reality. The only way he would end up as a front runner would be if the MSM got behind him like they have Obama and promote the heck out of him with major positive spin. Without that Obama would not even be on the radar and without that Huck has no chance.

Medved must be off his meds
Personally, I like Huckabee ... I like my next door neighbor Jack too ... but neither one will be elected President of the United States in November 2008.

After 8 years of George W. Bush ... a former southern governor and strongly tied into the southern Christian right .... America is not up for another one like that ... except that in Huckabee's case, that would be a Christian right governor from a SMALL southern state instead of from a large southern state.

The GOP is not a party that is or ever has been a wholly owned subsidiary of the southern Christian right wing - which constitutes maybe, what, ten percent of the country's population? If the national electorate were to perceive that the Republican Party is effectively the Southern Baptist Party, then its current minority status will be rather long lived.

This does not mean that the GOP cannot nominate another southerner ... but the Party would be much better off this time if it stopped acting as if that is the only possible candidate. After all, GWB is the only southern Christian right wing Republican President elected in the last century or so.

But nevertheless the southern Christian right wingers now act as if it is a god-given entitlement for them and them alone to select all Republican candidates from amongst their own from here on out, and always have.


The Big Lie of the GOP
No offense to Bowa: I'm not calling him personally a liar, since he's only repeating what so many CCRs (Country Club Republicans) have said, but "the religious right and the traditional conservatives blew it" is simply and outrageously false.

EVERY TIME the GOP has appealed to "the religious right and the traditional conservatives" in the last 30 years it has won, usually (though not always) in a landslide: POTUS 1980, 1984, 1988, 2000, 2004, and Congress 1994-2006.

EVERY TIME the GOP has spurned "the religious right and the traditional conservatives" in the last 30 years it has lost, usually handily.

Still, thanks for claiming that a Rudy & Ah-nuld ticket would "provide the populist message." I'll laugh for the rest of the day over that one.

Medved is right about one thing
for certain. That is, conservatives and their belief in the conservative message is too powerful to stifle or deflect. Mitt and Rudy cannot 'massage' their way into our hearts in a sustainable way if they do not embrace conservatism authenticly.

While I think nearly any of the GOP front runners can beat any Dem ticket in a head-to-head contest, winning the White House is not the goal. Rather, the goal is winning the hearts and minds of the voters. The White House and congress will naturally follow. How hard is this to understand?

If we, as conservatives, focus solely on winning, we will fail in our purpose. Worse, the American people will trust us less than they do Dems. After all, we are the party that is expected to stand up for principles.

Conservatism is the nursery of bold ideas. We need a candidate that not only embraces them, but is willing to pronounce and defend them. Huckabee may be that person. Gingrich certainly is.

With Huckabee....
Hope,Arkansas. The land of presidents.

Huck
Huckabee is a decent candidate except for his support for the "fair tax" which is a killer position in the primary and especially the general.

However, there are a slew of new polls that show Romney moving up to the 13-18 range. Huck is off of the radar screen. He also has no chance unless he can win a couple of early primary states and raise 30 mill to compete on Super T.

In the latest CBS poll 20% of Rudy supporters report Romney as their second choice. Getting them to switch is the fastest way to bring Rudy down in the polls.

Mike Huckabee
I am a social/fiscal conservative who will vote the Constitution Party if Giuliani is nominated by the Republicans. However, a day after the Iowa Straw vote, I sent $50 to Mike Huckabee's campaign and ordered 4 of his 5 books. I've been watching him since he announced and have read his many positions on his website. I have decided to vote for Huckabee and will continue to dribble him some money through the campaign. The guy is head and shoulders above anyone else who is appealing to real conservatives. He has the ability to inspire. He needs money to make the country aware of himself and to get out his message. In my heart of hearts, I think he is the one who can keep America from going off the deep end morally and fiscally. Again, HE NEEDS MONEY NOW to have any chance of success.

The Race Is On!
I think Rudy’s support is OVERSTATED because he comes from The Big Apple. Romney shows a bit of an edge to him when confronted, which I like. Huckabee PLEASANTLY surprised me in Iowa. I think Fred is waiting till Labor Day for whatever reason.

Huckabee or Thompson could replicate GWB’s Electoral College victory of 2004. WHOEVER the GOP candidate is, they better come out swinging. Clinton Inc. will head straight for the gutter and work overtime digging up dirt. The GOP nominee should throw the dirt on The Clintons RIGHT IN THEIR TEETH! There is MORE THAN ENOUGH dirt on The Clintons to bury them 100 times over!

This Election will be a Fight to The Death! If you want live in the USSA, stay home. If you want to live in The America WE KNOW AND LOVE, nominate a conservative and GET OUT THE VOTE on Election Day.

I am curious
about the number of posters criticizing Medved and Huckabee. (Well, Medved I can understand. I take that part back.) For a few months, all we saw here were people nearly demanding that a 2nd tier candidate emerge and capture the lead, or at least some attention, from Rudy or Mitt or (at that time) John McCain. Fred did that without declaring, but remains undeclared.

And now, a 2nd tier candidate is emerging. Huckabee would not necessary be my top choice, but I think in fairness that there is a lot to like and not a lot to criticize. I have seen him do several brief (like 5-7 minute) interviews on various TV news channels and he does seem genuine, knowledgeable and impressive. Whenever multiple marriages, affairs-while-married, trophy wives or stardom are criticized, Huckabee doesn't fit in to any of that criticism. He appears to me to be pleasant but strong conservative on the national issues that matter like security, immigration and taxes, and yet humane and authentic. I think it's worth giving him a lot more than 15 minutes to find out. I think he might make a formidable opponent for the Dems.

More Articulate Less Baggage
Bauer, Perkins, Land and other evangelical leaders have all defended Thompson's lobby record. They got a big surprise.

Thompson is not articulate or eloquent; he is not a small government conservative; and he has a very questionable social life.

I like Mike
I researched the candidates early on (before Fred) and decided on Huckabee. He is the only candidate for president that I have ever given money to. That said, I don't think he will win (except maybe as VP) because he doesn't have his own money to put into the campaign the way the other candidates do. I think it is sad that to be the president of this country in 2008 you have to be not only rich, but super-rich. Thanks for the campaign finance reform, McCain. However, I have not given up hope on Huckabee and I am thrilled to see him get some good press.

On another note, to Bowa and all the other "moderates" (i.e. liberals) - good luck with Rudy. I know I will not vote for him no matter what and I don't believe he can win against Hillary or Obama without the votes of the religious right, which he can't get.

Acceptreality...great post. Are we just looking for someone with an R after his name, or do we want to elect a conservative to the White House?


Huck
I just made my first donation to a presidential candidate; ever, to Mike Huckabee. I really liked him in the debates, and I must have not been the only one. Since he is going to be able to stick around, I decided I wanted to help him out.

Bowa-- I have said before and agree with you that a Giuliani/Huckabee ticket could be very potent, IF Mike accepted Giuliani's offer.

However; your assertions that "the religious right and the traditional conservatives blew it -- they abused their power, went too far right," is erroneous. What major piece of legislation have you witnessed in the past six years can the 'far right' jump up and applaud?

Did we get our social security reform? No.
Did we get a crackdown on illegal immigration? No.
Any significant reform to other entitlement pgrograms? No.
ANY real reductions in govt.? No. Quite the opposite
Was there even any morality legislation that some foolish social conservative might love to see? No.

The evidence is so amazingly clear. You want to know why we lost; deservedly so, in '06? In the words of Roger Daltry, "Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss."

Beware of Medved
Medved is an open borders advocate. Regarding political advice he has nothing to offer. Now I'm suspicious of Huckabee. Is he for open borders?

Medved
the neocon slime....

Look, I don't know everything there is to know about Huckabee, but the fact that Medved likes him is reason enough for me to scrutinize his record a bit more.

And Medved, immigration hard liners aren't "anti immigration". They just want the current laws enforced. Do you really see anything wrong with that? When you the illegal hordes running across the border "immigration", you're basically taking Mecha's side on the issue. Get a clue.

An Answer to an Attack
athingortwo sure doesn't sound like a conservative or Republican - unless it's the type that wants to change the Elephant into a big gray animal with a bray and is a real j'@ss.

Such hate dripping off of his words, and more than a bit of arrogance and patronism. If part of the Big Tent at all, he's more than likely of the Rockefeller group, or even further left than that. It's discouraging to hear the attack on what has been the heart and soul of America, and yes, what DID make America great.

It does not deter me from wanting to participate in the electoral process, indeed I am more than willing to fight harder now, to hand these pantywaist twits a defeat they'll NEVER forget.

Huckabee never sent photo
Attended a fundraiser and had my picture taken with Huckabee. This was last October. Still haven't received the photo. Have contacted Huckabee's people and the state party. NOTHING. If this is any indication of how he works, I want nothing to do with him.

Huck, Acceptreality
Truly stated, unless we find a true conservative candidate, all bets are off. The problem is that many here continue to put hope in the GOP, and that is exactly as you said, the same old boss. Huckabee will be just another of the elite beholden to the party machine, the PACs, and the lobbyists whose support he will need.

The time has come to reject the Dem/GOP/MSM propaganda that promotes the big lie that only they can govern, only they have wisdom and experience. I do not accept or believe that at all. It is only the age old tactic of telling a lie over and over until it is believed as true.

The real truth is we do have a choice and we can vote for other than the lesser of two evils. We can actually vote for a person who lives everyday in the real world, not another elite who lives a sheltered life. I urge all to visit my website, JOEOLIVAFORPRESIDENT.ORG. Maybe for the first time, you will see that there are many options, many opportunities, and we do not have to do the same thing again and again, hoping for the different result that never seems to materialize.

Why do we still trust these elites, GOP or Dem?
They offer nothing but more big government, declining personal freedom, and more influence to the internationalists who hate America.

Check out the site, you will not be disappointed. What do we have to lose? The elites have already stolen our birthright, why not simply take it back. We can, and I will restore to the American people the nation that they are the actual owners of. Time to dump the elites and elect a real American. Is anyone really opposed to that? Thanks, Joe

Huckabee is really a great candidate.
I'm a Ron Paul dreamer, but Huckabee made the strongest showing in the Iowa debate. He impressed the hell out of me.

Gene
"I am a social/fiscal conservative who will vote the Constitution Party if Giuliani is nominated by the Republicans..."



In other words, you will vote to impose Hillary/Obama on the rest of us.

I couldn't care less if you flagellate yourself in a childish temper tantrum in the privacy of your home, but please don't screw the rest of us for the sake of petty, egotistical spite. With friends like you, who needs enemies?

Bowa
"There's no fighting -- the religious right and the traditional conservatives blew it -- they abused their power, went too far right"


Remove "and the traditional conservatives" and change "right" to "left" and that statement is 100% correct.

And by the way, a tradtional (or "real") conservative is someone in favor of small governement. Which means free markets, low taxes, and no restrictions on behavior that doesn't harm other people. In other words, someone in favor of freedom. Far too many people on this site are willing to sacrifice all of that just to avoid having to see random nipple on TV every now and then...

Comments are Enlightening
At least in 2008, the GOP can say they had alternatives. The Only chance the GOP has is #1: Hillary Ticket will empower the GOP Core to rally to the cause and get the vote out, which might bring back Gore. #2. Demonratic Tax Issues & Destruction of Strong Economy should be a killer for Demonrats. #3: A vote for Hillary is a vote for the establishment and Socialism. #4: Can the GOP Nominee really demonstrate to Conservative Democrats & Independence that the Latest Democratic Congress with Pelosi and Reid and the with the Presidency will sell out the American People as they have with the King Admendment, Secret Union Votes, Abetting our enemies in Iraq and around the world, failure to clean up Congress and Earmarks and removing any hope of true Transparency, etc, could go on forever here, spend, spend, sell out.
In closing, based upon Issues and Needs for the Country, any GOP nominee and VP pick should win hands down in November against Socialism and Hillary. Can the Nominee stand up and tell the world that Hillary is a Socialist and what her so called agenda will do for the economy, jobs, and National security. But this is not a smart world. Not if 49% of this Country voted for John Kerry & Al Gore.

Huckabee
Do any of you remember what happened when America voted for an unknown politician from Arkansas?

VOTERS BEWARE...

I am a Republican voter. And this is the Republican's version of Klinton.

What Are You Idiots Thinking About?
Another unknown governor of a southern state who may or may not be a conservative? Are you guys crazy? Werent Carter, Clinton and W. Bush enough? This guy has NO conservative credentials, no foreign policy experience, hasnt written any noteworthy books or articles; he's just another charming nonentity, consumed by ambition, trying to slither his way into the White House by telling the rubes what they want to hear. Do you think he has the cajones to take on the Clinton political shredding machine just because he can organize 18% of the votes in a phony straw pol in Iowa? Giuliani is the only Republican candidate who has shown that he can work under intense fire from the liberal media and the entrenched hacks of the Eternal Beaurocracy. Any of these other schleppers will either get creamed in the election or brought to heel by the Big Gov avatars shortly after they take office.

I Heart Huckabee
An incredible article, Michael.

I've read Townhall for some time now. This is my first comment. I've followed and participated in politics for years. My $250 donation to Huckabee was my first time to donate to a presidential candidate. I plan to donate more.

All of you who are questioning and wary of Huckabee, go do your research. Visit his site and read his issues and positions. Go to YouTube and watch him, I recommend the following video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sdZY3oSupU

Huckabee impressed me
I'm going to vote for the Republican candidate because I don't want Hillary as Pres. That's a given.

That being said, I really like Huckabee. I also liked Duncan Hunter, after the first round of debates. Both of these guys seem like real conservatives, and also pretty bright. These are my two favorite GOP candidates.

Fred Thompson - he has waited too long. I am no longer enthused about him.

Mitt Romney and Giuliani - both of them have lots of good points, and both have had experience fighting successfully against liberals in their very liberal states. I'd think they'd both be decent Presidents.

McCain - I admire him as a war hero, but I don't think he'd be a good President.

I'm voting Huckabee in the GOP primaries, but regardless of who wins, I'm voting GOP in the general election, because ANY of the GOP candidates is better than Hillary.

Ikeltin - are you just dense, or stupid?
There was not one word or phrase involving "hate" written in my post ... the very first words I wrote were "Personally, I like Huckabee". I like George W. Bush too. I even like Mitt Romney ... they're all likeable guys. My post, however, had to do with who is likely to be elected President in November 2008, and that person is not going to be another southern Christian right wing guy like any of the above. That wing of the Party is a relatively small demographic in America today. America wants a change after 8 years of GWB. Even conservatives want a change, because many have dumped on GWB for not being conservative enough.

However, there is zero evidence in either actual voting (i.e., the 2006 election, which Republicans lost, in case some have forgotten) and in polling, that America is now launched on a conservative wave of Christian right values-based voting. None, zip, nada.

Unfortunately, a sizable proportion of Christian right politicians, opinion leaders, and commentators have acted as if the Presidential nomination in the Republican Party is an entitlement of the southern Christian right. To state that is not "hate" ... to state that is to make a political observation. And a further observation is that if a majority of American voters in November 2008 come to believe that the Republican Party and its candidates are wholly owned by the southern Christian right, then the Party will lose big.

What I suggest instead is that those who are southern Christian right wing Republicans should stop playing this "my way or the highway" game, because you will never have a majority in America that subscribes 100% to your ideals. Instead, you should follow Reagan's lead and figure out ways to achieve what you want within a pluralistic political system that requires compromise and mutual pluralistic respect.

Whoa!
Gabby & skep41:

Where did you two shills come from?

The comments on this thread were, for the most part, civil and reasoned... and then you two showed up.

Huckabee must scare the pants off of you (or whomever you are shilling for).


I like Mike (too)
No more Rockefeller Republicans mascarading as Reagan Republicans.

Mike Huckabee gives it to you straight. He IS the real deal. He knows what it's like to be in an ordinary working class family. He wasn't born into a political dynasty.

Call me an idealist, but I want to believe that a guy with the right message and vision can still become President. I'd hate to concede that you have to be a sell-out to reach that office.

I want a candidate who WANTS to be President. Mike didn't stand around waiting for the money guys to show up before he announced. He didn't stand around playing coy wanting us to want him before he stood up and said plainly that he wants to be President.

Mike Huckabee is the man for the job. A Republican without all the baggage and excuses. A true Conservative. Another man from Hope! I like that. I like Mike!

the bottom line is ...
only coalition parties win national elections. The Republican Party is a coalition party .. I know, that really irks some in the extreme Christian right ... but it's reality, so deal with it.

If you take out the center-right, pro business, pro strong defense, anti tax (what some insist on calling "country club Republicans"), pro small government Pubs, what you have left simply cannot win a national election, either the Presidency or a majority in Congress.

Likewise, if you take out the Christian right, what you have left in the Republican Party also cannot win a national election.

To win elections, we have to work together.

The Party and its candidates should therefore be respectful of all who make up the Republican coalition ... and never assume that any one group must have its behind kissed to the sole exclusion of respect or consideration for the other team-members.

Call it "Team Play 101". If the Republicans fail that, then say hello, Hillary!

And for all those who constantly threaten to stay at home or vote for some obscure radical party that nobody ever heard of unless you get exactly the candidate you demand ... please, don't let the door hit you in the behind on your way out. There are plenty of persuadable independents whom we'd be much better off with than the likes of you.

I was struck...
...by Huckabee's speaking abilities when, on the occasion of the University of Arkansas' graduation in May 2005, I was privileged to hear him give the commencement address. He spoke as long as most other speakers I've ever heard at such ceremonies, but never felt bored. He had the uncanny gift of constantly sounding like he was just about to "wrap it up"--always on the verge of ending it, so to speak.

He was from that moment my first pick for President in '08. And he's done nothing to diminish that status, though at times other candidates have moved ahead of him in my estimation (through positive action on their part, not due to any negative action on Huckabee's part).

HUCKABEE IN 2008!!!

moral_majority: who exactly
(was it Jesus himself?) appointed you to judge the spiritual purity of any other person on this earth?

If supporters like you are the backbone of the Huckabee campaign, then his rivals have little to fear.

Good qualities
Huckabee is likable and has a lot of good qualities however, he is open borders and that is not going to fly. He is also a "fair tax" proponent and that is a total loser in the primary and the general election.

Huckabee has a ceiling in the single digits. He is a threat to Fred in that he is Southern, younger and a Baptist minister. He may get a few votes from McCain, Rudy and Romney. He can be a spoiler in IA as he could run 3rd in the caucus. He will not become a top tier candidate. He will need at least 40 million to compete nationally as a top tier candidate and he is not going to raise that by Jan.

Great
An open borders "conservative" blogger endorses and open borders "conservative" candidate. There is a serious credibility issue that goes beyond the Republican Party right into and throughout Townhall.

athingortwo
Couldn't have said it better myself.

For all the Christian right voters who argue that there has been a strong correlation between their turnout and electoral success, keep in mind that with the exception of the two Bushes, most of the successful GOP candidates of the last 30 years ran on small government platforms as well. That was even true of W in '04 (see his plans to reform social security).

However, the reality has been that with the exception of one round of tax cuts, once the GOP gained control it abandoned all of its small government, free-market principles and emphasized social issues in its domestic agenda.

Libertarian types like myself are not stupid. We're not going to keep voting for the same thing and expecting different results. So it's not enough that a GOP candidate says he is for tax reform or some vague idea of a smaller government. If it's not the key aspect of his platform, he's not going to prioritize the cause once he is in office (see Bush I and Bush II). And that really has no appeal voters like myself. If we're going to become a socialist state, I'd rather we have a socialist in charge. That way, when the economy blows up, at least blame will be assigned correctly.

Two Words:
Baptist Pastor. That will be Huckabee's downfall if he starts really getting his name out there.

I always loved Huckabee, I think he's great and I would want to see him anywhere on the ticket.

Months back, I was speaking to my leftist parents and I told them I liked Huckabee. They didn't know him, but I described him, and they nodded politely. I ended my description with "and he's a pastor..."

Their kneejerk reaction was "OH!NO!TERRIBLE!HONEY,NO!!!!!A PASTOR? DANGER!!!!" So now, he's up on the Evil Conseravtive shelf along with Romney, the Satanic Blood Thirsty Mormon.

I do wish Huckabee the best. But if he can win the primaries, will his pastor background enable him or hinder him beating Hillary?


Huckabee?
"President Huckabee"? Now THERE'S a name to strike terror into the hearts of evil-doers the world over.

But what are this guy's real conservative credentials? I'm not aware of any--no books, no articles, no noteworthy speeches, and no shining accomplishments while in office. You could look at Rudy and talk about how he cleaned up New York before 9/11 and kept it together after. You could talk about Romney's success in bringing at least some conservative principles of governance to a liberal state like Massachusetts. Newt Gingrich engineered a Republican majority in the House, which once seemed physicall impossible, and has produced thoughtful books and articles ever since he left office.

What's Huckabee done?

And an endorsement from a marshmallow like Medved doesn't really count.


New Flavor of the Month
Ummmm just keep in mind sheeple that Huckabee, much like Barack Obama, is simply the new Republican flavor of the month. Also keep in mind that neither Rudy nor Last Chance McVain bothered with this meaningless vote (yawn!!!) So Huckabee becomes the Republican novelty act simply by default.

Huckabee
If Mr. Huckabee does not believe in "Darwinism", when elected will he terminate all NIH-funded research based on current medical science. Since essentially all of what we currently refer to as "biotech" is based on scientific principles rooted in evolution, I assume that President Huckabee will fund something else.
Ignorance is not a qualification for the presidency. Faith based in ignorance is not superior to faith informed by fact. It is no surprise that scientists tend to be more religious than the average person; anyone who has seen God's handiwork through modern tools of discovery comes away in awe of our Creator. The view of the Bible as a science textbook ignores that God chose to address His word to people in terms they would have understood at the time He spoke.

Is Mike The New FTD
NO!

Correction
FDT

Huckabee
Share his web site please.

Just lucky
I opened this article. I gave up on Medved in face of the immigration matter. Those in D.C. who still talk about it sound like they do not have a clue as to what happened or why. Either they are extremely stupid (Medved/Kondracky) or they're in someone's pocket. Either = loser.

Huckabee the real deal?
Ironically, it was Mr Huckabee's religion that helped to make Romney's religion more controversial (ie non-Christian cult comments etc.) The SBC has unitedly balked at the idea of a Mormon for president. What if now Pastor Huckabee needed the help of all Mormons in the Western States to support him? What goes around comes around (or is it vice versa?)

Finally
a columnist here gets it. Huck is the real deal, a true conservative, and he's not angry about it. That's what we need in 2008, not one of the CINOs who are currently leading the pack.

Take your party back, people. Small government. Less spending. No foreign intervention. Federalism. Strong borders, Own Our Own Ports.

That's how we take back the majority and govern with intelligence. Not Rudy or Mitt or Freddie, but with Huck.

Take the party back from the neo-cons and the Coulters and O'Reilly's of the world. These people turn off the Independent voter, and drive them away to the other party in droves.

Huck can bring back the Independents to our side. Do it right, people. Take it back.

I like Mike
I live in Arkansas and although I haven't agreed with everything Huckabee did while governor, I will say this. He will stand his ground until the ground gives way. He tried in futility to get school reform passed here in the face of court mandates and forced taxation. It certainly was not for trying. Of all the candidates, he is the only one that has not tried to give a PC answer to almost every question.
I have one question of my own. Who belongs to this vast southern Christian right wing and where can I join? Apparently they are a very powerful entity. I'm southern, Christian, and consider myself a conservative. However, I have yet to meet a card carrying right wing Christian. They must be running around with the same people that are running the vast right wing conspiracy.

Puhleese! Not Another Arkansan
About eight years ago, we wound up with a guy who led the 49th state in terms of GDP running for President. Now, other than the party, is there anything which makes anyone in the Republican party believe that this is not just a Republican Clinton? Now someone is pushing a Governor of that poor, and I mean POOR, state with even less managerial experience than Bill Clinton (and we saw how poor that was) being touted as the New Reagan or whatever you guys want to call him.

You want me to sit this election out also? Then nominate Huckabee, by all means. I will hold my nose and take either Giuliani or Romney (both Northeast politicos) because at least they have a resume. But I will coin a new Republican slogan for you: "Stay Home for Huckabee".

The sad fact is that the Republican party let Bush kill all of the Conservative competition. Now we are in a situation where the Conservative bloc has a choice between a television actor and another Arkansas governor.

I like Mike
Where can I buy a "I like Mike" bumper sticker?

btw ... someone about said supporting the FairTax was a killer. However, they didn't say why they thought so. It's a big idea, but killer? I'm tired of status quo politicians who campaign on more of the same. Or nebulous politicians who campaign on "change", but won't specify what they mean by that.

Huckabee is out on a ledge here. But it won't be the FairTax that sinks him if he doesn't make it. He's got a lot of hurdles to cross to get to the finish line.

However, hate to make a Clinton analogy, but remember 1991? Clinton was virtually unknown and definitely not a front runner. However his opposition crumbled and he was left standing. Bush senior should have still won, but he'd made himself vulnerable to breaking a promise not to raise taxes. And Clinton promised a new direction for the country. And he delivered. Of course, not in any way anyone in their right mind would have envisioned.

The point being that it can be done. Big Ideas & conviction are needed. Without it you can't tell the players without a program and are left waiting on CBS to tell you who to vote for.

Huckabee
I like Medved a lot (I remember him fondly from his movie reviews for the NY Post) and I like Huckabee (truly some of the highlights from the GOP debates) but in 2008, with Hillary Clinton as the likely Democratic nominee - I think we have to go with a true Democratic slayer -- Rudy. Unlike Huckabee, Rudy cannot be defined by the media - because we all see the results of his leadership in the safe, clean streets and parks of NYC and remember him for his role after 9/11. We saw it with our own eyes and the liberal media, so quick to contrast Giulani with Bush, praised him at the time for it. Now that he is a possible GOP nominee, the media would like a "do-over" on that and will try their best but I trust Rudy to defend himself. I think Medved is right that a different type of GOP nominee is needed -- but McCain and definitely Giuliani surely meet their bill. McCain's time at the Hanoi Hilton gives him immediate respect and Giuliani is an entirely self-made man. If a third-party candidate enters the race to hurt Giuliani, so be it. You have to go with your strongest hand. I look at Presidential elections as a series of 50 governor races - and Huckabee versus Clinton in Ohio, PA, NJ, Fl. -- I am not feeling so good. With Giuliani, I am.


Controversy again...
I would vote for Huckabee, but I think being a former baptist minister destroys his chances. The media's aversion to the religious right will be a hurdle that I don't think he can overcome without exorbitant amounts of funds. I sincerely do like him and believe that he could do some great things for thing country; but, that being said, the article on the cover of the NYTimes reading "Separation of Church and State?" would be hard to overcome. Please don't kill me because I see it this way, this is just my foresight of how the media would take it.

Fair tax is a killer?
...I'll answer why I think it's a killer: because it's almost impossible to implement. We're talking something larger than the New Deal. It would require a SUBSTANTIAL majority in congress. And still, there are many conservatives who would vote against it. I think it's a fascinating idea, but I don't think that implementation is realistic.

Keep in mind
that Mr Medved was and is strongly against Fred, in thought and in words. He has consistently pushed this candidate, who has about as much chance as a poot in a hurricane, IMHO.

Let us wait until Fred declares one way or tother and THEN cast aspersions, hm-m-m, Mr Medved?

Fair Tax
If the Fair Tax is a killer because it's difficult to implement and the politicians wouldn't vote for it, maybe we should just give up on term limits, fiscally conservative policies, fighting the environmentalists, as well as truth, justice and all that other stuff. Let's just throw in the towel. Then we can sit back and say "It's not my fault. I didn't vote for it. I stayed at home that day."

Maybe we should have given up on immigration reform, aka amnesty, too. It was a done deal, until WE got involved.

Just admit it
Re: athingortwo, several posts on this thread.

Your anti-Christian bigotry is obvious to the casual observer. You need to get over it.

When asked, about 75% of Americans call themselves Christian, and somewhat more than half of the adults in the US population say they have been "born again." Now, not all of these people are Republicans, nor are all of these people Protestants; there are lots of Catholics, and lots of Democrats, even among Evangelical Christians. But the majority of the country is Christian, and find nothing objectionable in a candidate who openly acknowledges his own, genuine faith. And Americans furthermore respect a man who lives consistently with what he believes, and conversely distrust a man who does not.

Consequently, the fact (that you've repeated about 8 times now) that Mike Huckabee is a southern, conservative Christian is not a drawback. It's an advantage.

Get over it.

And by the way: the person who posts here as "moral_majority" is a troll. He/she is a liberal poser who writes what he/she thinks conservative Christians actually believe. He/she is always wrong, and usually offensive. His goal is to stir up anger against the religious right. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and presume you didn't know that, but if you're bigoted and foolish enough to spout hatred toward Christians on the basis of what moral_majority writes (and yes, your posts are OVERFLOWING with hatred toward Christians), then you're giving the DNC exactly what it wants, and that makes you a fool.


Fair tax a killer?
Re: Truth, justice, and all that stuff, 3:25 PM.

TJATS wrote: "We're talking something larger than the New Deal. It would require a SUBSTANTIAL majority in congress. And still, there are many conservatives who would vote against it. I think it's a fascinating idea, but I don't think that implementation is realistic."

A) It's not going COST anything like the New Deal. On the contrary; it's likely to save the country a great deal of money.

B) It requires no larger majority in Congress than any other bill, as established by the Constitution and by operating rules in Congress. 51% does it on a vote, 61% if you have to invoke cloture on a filibuster in the Senate.

C) As cynical as this sounds, ideas floated by a Presidential candidate don't need to be workable, they just need to be acceptable to the voting public. We all understand that not everything the candidate wants will be implemented, and so long as Huckabee doesn't make this the centerpiece of his campaign, or let the media do that do him (like Steve Forbes did, remember?) it's an intriguing idea that helps confirm his conservative bona fides, and that's all.

Taking moral_majority seriously? Don't.
Re: moral_majority, 3:43 PM.

moral_majority is a liberal troll who posts what he/she imagines conservative Christians believe, in as offensive a manner possible. His/her goal is to separate the religious right from the Republican party, which will weaken the party measurably. He/she is to be ignored.

Regarding the comment about Genesis: a) There are plenty of us out here who believe the Bible to be fully inspired, but don't see any necessary conflict between Genesis and Darwin. b) There is no necessary relationship between religious fundamentalism and conservatism (although about 2/3 of Evangelicals in America are conservative). c) There are plenty of us here with good, sound scientific understanding, who have SCIENTIFIC objections to current versions of Darwinism. and d) Most of the people who object to Darwin on religious terms are extremely decent people who don't deserve the vicious sneering non-believers like to hurl at them.

Does anyone know what happened...
to Medved's article "Internet Hunting Shows the Awful Truth about North American Union"? I read the article last night and wanted to read the comments today, but every trace of the article seems to have disappeared. Did someone hack the site to post a phony article or did TH/Medved remove a valid article they had posted?

Huckabee?
I didn't much enjoy getting sucker punched by Bush. I am getting sick of having to chose between the lesser of two evils. Esp. when the Republican is hardly less evil.

Go to the link on Gabby's post. I don't know a lot about Huckabee. He is quoted saying that to deny state benefits to illegal immigrants is "un-Christian, un-American, irresponsible and anti-life..." Sorry, but I am tired of handing over half of my paycheck to the Federal gov. I do not consider it my Christian duty to bleed Americans to raise the standard of living in Mexico.

I can not support any candidate who will not be committed to preserving our national sovereignty, territorial integrity, and the welfare of American citizens. I am not ashamed of our cultural heritage. I am not interested in seeing our country destroyed and made into a third world country.


Huckabee
I am a Christian, fiscal conservative. Maybe Bush's is a prop bible like Clinton's? I don't see how he can reconcile working for the destruction of our country and the formation of the North American Union. I thought he took an oath to uphold the constitution of the US. I guess when he says Mexicans do jobs Americans won't do he thinks Americans won't drive trucks? He is turning the trucking industry over to Mexicans. Americans can't get houses up? By the way they want to give away all our tech jobs too.

The Republican party is in trouble and the base is delusioned because they have abandoned conservative principles. Rockefeller Republicans are in charge now.

"It is folly to underestimate the contempt that the Rockefeller Republicans have for the middle class, regarding it as a roadblock to their ability to make the money they should be able to make.

I believe if the Rockefeller Republicans had their way, there would be a massive slave labor class that people would be born into, could not work their way out of, and die in. What better way to do this than by allowing unlimited numbers of illegal aliens to come and stay."

Duncan Hunter did well in the debates. He has actually done some things to protect the border. Anyone who is willing to flood our country with cheap labor is willing to see the US become a third world country. All the top tier candidates are on board with the globalist agenda. I am not going to vote for Huckabee just because he is a Christian. I would like to have a Christian president but I despise Bush now. He is a scumbag traitor. We could barely get him to commit to vetoe hate speech legislation. He wasn't willing to stand against the criminalization of Christianity??? Pathetic!

I am going to vote for Duncan Hunter in the primary's. If any of the top tier candidates (Dem or Rep) win be ready to say hello to your new country, the North American Union.

inkling - thanks, and the NIH
that was a great defense!

as for stopping funding for the NIH etc just because the guy has a conservative theology (and theologically I'm probably MORE conservative than he is)... even those of us with conservative Biblical notions realize that there are things that can't be erased because of a relatively minor disagreement. while I believe that holding the Bible as God-breathed isn't "minor", evolution versus creation is not, as they say, a salvation issue. God'll 'splain it in the end.

we really aren't the whacko's the MSM and the rest of the left paint us as... mostly!

As for pres candidates, I'll wait and see who floats to the top. As much as it pains me, I'll probably vote for Romney or Guliani if it means voting against Hillary or Obama or any other leftist. But it'd br nice if someone who's an actual Constitutional conservative got to the top of the heap.

TTFN!

keltin
read his interview in Time magazine? A month or two back.

Interesting view of a man answering leading and loaded questions.


jcdean
unfortunately, I think you're right.

Huckabee?
Why doesn't Medved just marry Huckabee, he thinks he's so great -- oh, wait, nevermind. And what did Fred Thompson ever do to you, Mike? Seriously, the only thing "astonishing" about the Iowa Straw Poll is that anyone puts any stock in it.

Turned
One thought on Huckabee, whom I will not support.
Pastor-turned-politician? Quite a switch in priorities!

Duncan Hunter, alone in the field, has the record, fortitude, grasp of the issues to SERVE as President. It is up to us who support him to see that he is nominated. Duncan Hunter Is A Straight Shooter. Duncan Hunter Walks The Walk.

zeb
Good point. Hadn't quite thought about it that way.

"Open Borders" Huckabee
If you want open borders, then Huckabee's your man. As Governor of Arkansas, Huckabee pushed a bill that would give state-funded college scholarships to ILLEGAL immigrants. It failed after his own party voted it down. After Immigration and Customs Enforcement raided a poultry plant in Arkansas in 2005, Huckabee blasted the roundup saying "I resent the implication that people are making that they are illegal and they ought to be dragged out like common thugs and hauled off to sit in jails". Everyone in Arkansas knows that the Huckster is no conservative - what with his tax increases, support of illegal immigration and early release of rapists and murderers. And everyone knew that as soon as he hit the road campaigning, he'd act like the same conservative he "acted" like when he was first elected. We have experience here in Arkansas dealing with Hucksters from Hope.

Huckabee, Browback, or Paul
They all have a chance. I hope that one of these can be picked and heavily supported by conservatives in time to unseat the top 3 or at least McCain and Guliani. Maybe it is Huck? I don't know but one should be picked and promoted.

According to the naysayers, a Christian who is a former minister can't win becuase if he's too Christian. A Morman can't win becuase he's not Christian enough, a devout Catholic can't win becuase we have too many on the Supreme Court. The only one that can win is socially agnostic professed Catholic who doesnt know his faith well enough to figure out why abortion is wrong enough to be illegal.

George Washinton and his band of rabble rousers could never defeat the awesome power of the British Military either.

If you have given up hope that a real conservative can ever be elected then give all your support to Romney or Guliani (preferrably Romney). But if you know that all things are possible - then find the conservative that can win.

I dont listen to Medved that much but he sounds like a neo-con who is willing to support a conservative. That is what we need to win in 08. A coalition of all types conservatives. Go Huck
! (or Brownback or Paul.)


Huckabee: A Main Street Republican
While I support eliminating the graduated income tax, I'm not sure if the FairTax is the best way to go. Nonetheless I support Gov. Huckabee and think he gives the GOP the best chance at winning in the general election for these reasons:

**Executive experience as Governor of Arkansas

**Elected 2 terms in Arkansas, a state that often votes for Democrats

**Able to unite the party: Overall he has a Conservative right of center track record. (I.e. See http://www.ontheissues.org/Mike_Huckabee.htm)

**Able to attract support from Independents and Democrats: He did it in Arkansas and he can do it nationally.

**An excellent communicator, who often speaks extemporaneously or without notes.

**An inspiring story of overcoming adversity: After being diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes, the Governor lost over 100 pounds and now runs marathons.

**Healthcare: Better than any other Republican candidate, because of his weight loss, I think he will be able to make inroads with Independents and women on the healthcare issue.

**Musician: Play in his group “Capitol Offense.” This I think is a way to connect with Independent and younger voters.

**A Main Street (Not Wall Street) Republican: Democrats always try to portray the GOP as “party of the rich. As Governor Huckabee comes from a modest background, it will be very difficult (if not impossible) for the Democrats to make that claim against him.

**Liberals are afraid of his candidacy: Here’s an example of the comments I have read from the Liberal side:
-“I've long agreed with Kos that Mike Huckabee is the guy in the Republican field I'd least like to see us face in the general. Probably thanks to his experience as a pastor, he connects well with people both in person and on television. He doesn't have the baggage of the Republicans in Congress (voting in lockstep with Bush on Iraq and everything else). Particularly against Hillary, I think Huckabee spells trouble for us.”


Huckabee
If amnesty and open borders are want you want than Huck is your man. Look at his record in Arkansas and addressing "La Raza".

Woodrow Wilson's Legacy
I am proud to be an American when I see the way the Iowa straw poll seemed to cut through some of the hype created by the media that was in favor of the over financed candidates.

Back about 1915 or so we had a politician named Woodrow Wilson that accepted a bribe to create the Federal Reserve. They were a group of very powerful bankers and businessmen from around the world at the time. Through the monopoly of being the source of our money and by being outside of our government, or paying any taxes, they have built up a fortune that, I believe, includes owning most of the politicians of the world.

It is going to take a determined, We the People, to restore law and order in our government before we can restore law and order in our streets.



"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."

-Woodrow Wilson

Huckabee
Earned an "F" from the Cato Institute on taxes.

He's wrong on immigration.

He's almost as annoying as Brownback - what with all the preaching they both are wont to do. I can't take the holier-than-thou stuff. Not to mention the anti-Mormon comments from both of them. which show an incredible ack of judgement for a pres. hopeful. You shouldn't go around alienating people if you want their vote.

So what if Huckabee says a couple of funny things in the debates. That doesn't inspire me.

He's going nowhere fast, although this may be enough for Fred to think twice - which would be a good thing.

Check him out
ok, I'm one of the biggest cynics when it comes to politics- but when I 1st heard Mr. Huckabee speak I literally sat up on the edge of my seat. Is he for real?? After 6 months of investigation, I think he is the real thing. I have never backed a presidential candidate nor contributed to a campaign. I have contributed to Mr. Huckabee's campaign 3 times.

What are the alternatives?

Rudy - just looks goofy

Romney -has proved he can buy votes and comb his hair

McCain - (although a great patriot) just looks ....tired

Fred Thomson - who? Is he going to jump in and save the day? I don't think so. Waited way too long- probably because he really doesn't have anything to say and is trying to delay anyone looking into his accomplish.....oh yeah, there are no real accomplishments.

Do your homework. Check out Huckabee. It is well worth your time.

K

Huckabee new tax
Huckabee said he would support the SIN tax today on Tucker. Is there a tax this guy does'nt like?

unacceptable
We're electing a president, not a comedian. Huckabee is unacceptable because he is soft on illegal immigration. Period.

k-rae
You need to do your homework on the other guys. Rudy. Romney, McCain and Thompson all have more going for them than Huck.

You cannot reduce Mitt down to money or hair, or Rudy down to looks. So far these 2 have managed to get the most attention. There is real substance with both of them.

Romney has been a terrific fundrasier and used his money to win in Iowa by intimidating the top guys to stay away. I respect his intellect, organization, and hard work.

Rudy is not my choice because he is not conservative and has personal family issues, but I respect him and think he is a MUCH better speaker and leader than Huck.

I agree with you on Fred.

Huckabee is an annoying speaker who has a holier-than-thou attitude and disparages Mormons. You don't hear Romney doing that do you?

Huck is not ready for prime time. We don't need a preacher for president.

oh yeah
thanks for the reminder monticup. The rest of the Republican field just looks angry. We could use someone who is optomistic. Go Mike!

Romney
Romney is heir apparent to the Bush machine. Want another globalist stooge willing to sellout America and Americans? Then Romney is your man.

k-rae
I've never seen Romney look or be angry. He's a gentlman and tough when he needs to be, and appears very happy indeed.

Find a real criticism of him - so far you're striking out.

Anna
You must be smoking some of that stuff that Ron Paul thinks should be legal.

Fair tax Fred and Huck
Fred just flank Huckabee today on the fair tax. The fair tax people are saying Fred endorsed it but if you read his actual wording he just fan dance them. It is not clear if he is really in favor of the fair tax or not.

If you have noticed, the stock market is in a meltdown over the sub prime mortgage market. If you remove the tax deduction for mortgage interest you will dramatically drop the price of houses across the country. That will make it impossible to refinance or sell for many people. They will be lock into their houses and mortgages. Most ordinary people have their wealth in their home and in their 401 K. The fair tax will immediately drop both thru the floor.

That will kill the economy and kill demand for new goods especially houses and cars. Even if it is phased in it will recess the economy for years.

Almost all middle class and working class Americans pay an effective income tax rate of less than 23 %. The so called fair tax is a massive tax increase on middle and working class America as they spend almost all of what they make.

Huckabee is unelectable because of his endorsement of the fair tax. Fred should be forced to make it very clear if he supports the fair tax or not. We do not need a fan dance on this type of issue.

I Like Huckabee
I am voting for Huckabee. I too have watched him for some time now, and he is the best of the candidates. Rudy is a RINO, McCain isn't electable, Romney is too flip-floppy, Ron Paul is too weird and Thompson can't make up his mind.

Huckabee 2008.

Can Huck beat Hillary?
Doubt it.

Better FredHead, than MedHead
Listen up Mike:
http://blip.tv/file/323091

Medved writes; "Forget about Fred Thompson--- his long delay in entering the
race makes him look increasingly like the Mario Cuomo of the Republican Party."

http://blip.tv/file/306766

I'm glad Fred is waiting! These debates are a joke with 10 people,
including about 6 who don't really have a chance anyway.
There's plenty of time Mike and there will be plenty more debates for Fred.
Then we'll get some real debates instead of these 30-second sound-bites
from having too many candidates on stage.

Fred Thompson works on his own timetable
and not some artificial one set by someone else!


Hey Medved, Fred has class!
Medved writes; "Her glamorous presence seems to re-enforce Thompson’s
Hollywood connections, and that’s not a great thing for a Republican candidate."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN9KYK6P_GQ

People who attack Fred Thompson:
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/RobertDNovak/2007/08/02/fred_thompsons_wife

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JedQ1vSWAuQ



Don't let Medved tell you...
Judge these for yourself:

Medved writes; "Thompson’s campaign speeches so far have been distinctly
underwhelming in their impact, showing none of the folksiness and force of his
TV character Arthur Branch or his brief radio commentaries, for that matter."

Really Mike?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IQvpF_ebOw&mode=related&search=

http://www.townhall.com/video/Campaign08/1450_122139

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ols56u3QZo4&mode=related&search=
(Please forgive the You Tube video quality, thanks.)



Huckabee for VP
Medved writes; "Huckabee spontaneously deploys the warmth, humor, gift of gab,
accessibility and kindness that we haven’t seen in a GOP Presidential contender
since Reagan. He comes across as a regular guy who cares about other regular guys."

Look, I like Mike Huckabee alot. He's a really nice guy, but is that enough right now?
Is "warmth, humor, gift of gab, accessibility and kindness" that important now in times
of war? Is that what we want to project to our enemies right now at this time in history?

Or, don't we want a President that sounds like this:

http://blip.tv/file/302472


H.R.C.
Can you post without links, please? Nobody clicks on your links.

His conservative credentials
... has no body bothered to look at his record as Governor when he had to work with a Democratic general assembly there? He managed to cut taxes, cut spending (somebody earlier mentioned that there is constitutionally mandated taxation and spending so he can't be blamed for that).

He is not for open borders - I don't know where people are getting that from. He is staunchly pro-life. He is for the FairTax - which only conservatives are endorsing.

I like Mike. He has impressed me. I'm going to donate to him as well, and that would be a first for me too.

Yes, Ron Paul is too weird
Tucker Carlson: You said last night that no candidate here is willing to remove the pre-emptive nuclear strike option against a country that has done no harm to us directly and is no threat to our national security. But there is evidence, actually, that Iran funded the bombing of the barracks in Beirut in 1983 that killed all those US marines, and they do fund terrorism. I mean, it's not like Iraq circa 2002--we know that Iran has funded terror. They're not a threat at all to us?

Ron Paul: Not really ... this idea that they're on the verge of having a weapon and that we have to put anti-balistic missiles up in Europe because the Iranians might attack us--I mean, that's a bit of a stretch. No, they're not capable of it. They don't have an airforce. They don't have a real military. They have essentially no navy. ... you say, well, they've said nasty things against Israel. Israel could wipe Iran off the face of the earth with a few nuclear weapons in no time. The Iranians aren't going to attack, I mean, they talk beligerently, but so did Kruschev. They talked about burying us, and yet we stood up to the Soviets, I mean, they have 40,000 nuclear weapons. So this idea that we have to be so bold and so intimidating, and looking for another war, or to spread the current war—I mean, we have enough problems on our hands, and yet here we are threatening to spread the war in to Iran. I think it's very, very dangerous, and it doesn't make any sense to me.

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/MSNBCs_Tucker_invites_Ron_Paul_to_0607.html

From www.ontheissues.org:
Path to citizenship if illegals admit guilt & pay fine
What we cannot do is allow our laws to be flagrantly broken, acting as if the economic benefits to consumers justify their utter disregard for not only our laws, but potentially our security. In the case of immigration, our laws are clearly out of sync with the economic realities of our global marketplace. It would be sheer folly to attempt to suddenly impose strict enforcement of existing laws, round up 12 million people, march them across the border, and expect them to stay.

What does make sense is a revision of our laws, one giving those here illegally a process through which they pay a reasonable fine in admission of their guilt for the past infraction of violating our border laws and agree to adhere to a pathway toward legal status and citizenship. In exchange, our government gains the capacity to know who is here, why they are here, where they are, and whether they carry a communicable disease. But much of the debate has become mired more in definitions than in a real solution.


HUCKABEE IS SOFT ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION!

Hey, Michael!
Ya know...There's this other Republican candidate that's running...Seems he attracts a lot of passionate supporters....He wants to reinstate the ideas found in the Constitution...Remember the Constitution???...He thinks independent of the rest of the herd...He is intelligent, consistent, and even HONEST...Do you know that most Americans crave honesty in their politicians?

I'll give you a clue:

His name is Congressman Ron Paul.

How about shooting him a few morsels every now and then? Even ONCE would be nice.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com

Sounding Liberal
I just went to Mike's website to check him out after reading about him here. I don't like the opening paragraph on his home page.

"...the country needs a reawakening and a leadership to address an array of issues, including how to improve the nation's infrastructure, education system, environmental policy and failing health care system."

This sounds like liberal intrusion to me. There is nothing "failing" about our health care system. The United States has the best health care system in the world, and the idea that government needs to somenow "fix" it is an entirely Leftist idea developed to get more control over our lives. We have had enough of Republicans who talk like liberals. Why can't conservatives be proud of what they stand for instead of always trying to act like they represent the other side?

I kike Mike Huckabee for VP too
I too would consider Mike Huckabee, if Mitt Romney were sidelined. However, I do not think that will happen. The ignorance around the Mormon Church is lifting; the controversial is becoming mainstream church among Christians. Mitt has always claimed to be pro-life in his personal life, before he was governor as well as while governor.

As I understand, he believes that everyone must obey the law or correct the law through the right channels. It is a basic precept of his Church. You can find this in a document titled "The Articles of Faith." Based on that, he agreed not to change the law, and while governor, he would not let them change of expand the law either. He kept his promise while hoping to build a consensual base to make the appropriate amendments. He defended life in every turn, but was unable to alter the law, because of a moral promise.

He never changed his position ever and the media and the Democrats are trying to make that stick. If you go back to the first debates and listen carefully, you will hear for your self. For intelligent people that will not fly in the end, so time is on the side of truth. The following is an example, assuming it we true.

"Romney for his “slick shifts” in position on a range of issues and (unfairly) for his devout commitment to a controversial church."

Repeating someone else's lie does not make it true. Another, he is going to donate his Presidential fee to charity. He does not want or need the money.
I would like to see both Huckabee and Romney in the as President and VP. It would unite and overcome that attitude on what is true and not true and unite Christians. We are all brothers and sisters children of an All Loving God.

Tom Tancredo...
got 14%! He isn't out of the running just yet. And there may have been some dirty tricks played in the Iowa Straw Poll but not enough yet is known to say who perpetrated those tactics. Keep your eyes open, folks.

Good article and posts
Mr. Medved,

Thanks for the enlightening article. He sounds great from what you said. However, what is interesting about the TH "forum" is the info other posters supplied, particularly about illegal immigration.

I'm very concerned about his stance on immigration as per follow up posts from pianogirl and anna, among others.

However, I will do my own checking so I can make a decision. Either way, I'm more informed now than I was before reading the article and comments.

Thanks again.

I would like to see-Romney and Hackabee
Shells writes:
“along with Romney, the Satanic Blood Thirsty Mormon”

Shells could you tell be where you are getting you information from. I would like to know.

Opinions like that indirectly repeated or other wise is unsubstantiated, may get us in trouble.

I am sure you mean no harm. Only ignorance would believe any such thing. I know my friend. I am a member of Romney’s church as well, and I respect your sincere and personal freedom to worship as you worship God and hope in Christ as we do. You have that freedom. I hope you may understand what I mean. Only through understanding can we ever come to the unity of the faith, and that will follow sincere respect and honesty and true as we learn in Matthew Ch. 5 by Christ. Cheers!

Tyson Farms
When RINOs like Huckabee continue to be financed by the overt companies displaying criminal behaviors and openly subverting federal immigration law there remains a problem.

When Huckabee is standing over the jail hosting the Board of Directors of Tyson Farms, I'll believe he's a Republican. Till then, he just another version of Clinton, Bush, and the rest of the no-show Executive branch that pick and choose which laws they obey.

The Huckabee Bandwagon

.....Michael you must be back on your ludes ...

.....Do you seriously think that the Republican Party would pin all it's hopes and future on a Southern (Arkansas) governor? ...That would be a bigger surrender to the Democrats than Lee at Appomattox ...

.....Clinton pulled it off because Perot jumped in the race and syphoned off voters who thought that Bush Sr. was too soft and too liberal ...

.....So what your the plan to get Huckabee elected? ...convince Bloomberg to run as an Independent? ...

.....Stick to reviewing movies Michael ...as a political prognosticator you are less astute that Dick Morris ...

.....Huckabee might be a good choice for VP (to hold onto the South) if either Romney or Giulani is the nominee ...he would guarantee defeat if he were the nominee and he would bring nothing to the ticket if Thompson or Gingrich were the nominee ...

.....get real Michael .....COLOSSUS

Huckabee has only two things
going for him. He's in favor of the FairTax, and he's a governor. But his Baptist pastor past is a deal breaker. I echo the earlier statements of the previous libertarian-leaning posters who have said that the GOP would be best served by a candidate who is neutral on social issues but strong on reducing the role of government.

Much of the left's disdain for Bush is his overt reliance on his faith. Those are signals to some of us that too much energy and attention will be spent on limiting our private choices. The GOP would do well to let go of the need to impose its moral code on the rest and stick to making the USA a stronger economic entity. I believe implementing the FairTax would go a long way toward that end.

"Wait'n round the bend...
my Huckabee'n friend..."
If he's good enough for Mark Twain 'n Andy Williams; he's good enough fer me.
We got a year and a half to go folks, anything can happen.
And to the nitpickers; Remember Joe E. Brown's famous last line in "Some Like It Hot"?
"No body's perfect!"

Bob writes:
I will do my own checking so I can make a decision.
****
Glad to see someone else who does his own checking. I too have been looking at the information provided by other TH posters.

There have only been one or two that I've found to be valid, the others are links to blogs which are either tainted with the bloggers agenda, or refer to unverifiable information.

What amazes me are the TH posters who base a choice on one issue or that fact that they do not like the column writer therefore they oppose Huckabee on only those grounds.

For me I have a checklist of important issues, the person who has the most similar positions to mine is at the top of the list for my support. Then after positions I look at how credible the candidate is. If I feel the person is making statement tailored to suit the crowd to which they are speaking it tends to turn me off.

Do I agree with Huckabee 100% on every issue? No. But of all the candidates he is the one I agree with the most and who feels genuine when he speaks.

I want to hear more from all of the candidates. I want to hear more debating of issues and questions asked by real people and not controlled sound bite forums directed by a media group. I want this so I can make the best informed decision I can.

Mike Huckabee
If he's on the ticket, he has my vote, and I hope to see his name at the top of the ticket. He holds my views on the major issues, and would make for a spectacular president.

Medved
Also, please don't slip into the leftisms of Giuliani having "moderate" positions. He has no moderate positions. Hypocritical, opportunistic, far left-wing positions, yes. Moderate, no. He's a RINO.

BG writes:
If you have noticed, the stock market is in a meltdown over the sub prime mortgage market. If you remove the tax deduction for mortgage interest you will dramatically drop the price of houses across the country. That will make it impossible to refinance or sell for many people. They will be lock into their houses and mortgages. Most ordinary people have their wealth in their home and in their 401 K. The fair tax will immediately drop both thru the floor.
****

How will the FairTax do this?

The FairTax will help home sales because everyone will bring home ALL of their earnings. The FairTax will only even apply to NEW homes, so resale of older homes will be in even more demand as people look to save a few bucks or get more for their money.

The home mortgage deduction is a tool to keep people addicted to the current tax system. And the precious "sacred cow" deduction is already in jeopardy. Recently John Dingell (D-MI) suggested removing the deduction on homes 3000 square feet and larger (be they new or used). So if that passes, owners of larger (read more expensive) homes will have to downsize to retain the deduction, and most new homes will be built at under the 3000 square foot mark.

Oh, and the sub-prime issue is being inflated by the media who are invested in seeing our economy go downhill to substantiate the Democrat claims of economic doom and gloom.

As for 401K's mine is doing just fine, but then I was smart and set mine up so that not all my money was in one place, just in case a portion of the market does take a downward turn the rest of the market can help compensate.

And as I and other people do when we get raises, I've put a portion of every raise into my 401K, and I'd do the same the day the FairTax cuts all the withholdings, that way it builds even quicker than it does now.

Galltegfa
"But his Baptist pastor past is a deal breaker. I echo the earlier statements of the previous libertarian-leaning posters who have said that the GOP would be best served by a candidate who is neutral on social issues but strong on reducing the role of government."

You may be right when you say Huckabee's ministerial status may hurt him, but the rest of your statement is, with all due respect, dead wrong. Huckabee's chances are far better than a pro-abortionist like Rudy Guiliani. Many lifelong Democrats vote Republican because the Republican party is pro-life. If someone like Guiliani gets the nomination, you might as well get used to saying "President Hillary."

No way
The guy can't even send a photo from a fundraiser that I attended almost a year ago.

Ken
According to a May 2007 Gallup poll:

http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=27628

"49% of Americans consider themselves pro-choice and 45% call themselves pro-life."

Forty Five percent is not enough to win an election, unless a third party is in the running.

I can only speak for myself, but I joined the Libertarian party in 1992 after GHW Bush changed his position to anti-choice. Although, I do know of several others who made that same move for the same reason.

All the Ron Paul supporters on the board never mention that Ron Paul lost the Libertarian nomination when he ran for that slot in no small part because most Libertarians are pro-choice and he's anti-choice. That and his stance on Iraq put him out of the running for me.

So, I return to my original position: If the GOP wants to bring in ALL the voters who favor reducing the size and role of the federal government, it should remain neutral on the moral issues.

Galltegfa
"Forty Five percent is not enough to win an election, unless a third party is in the running."

That misses the point. The point is, if the Republicans nominate a pro-abortion candidate, they will alienate a sizable portion of their constituents - sizeable enough to lose the election.

$.02
I'm wondering why Medved is talking about a conservative. One would think Medved is a conservative which is not the case. Medved doesn't know what a real conservative is nor would he accept a true conservative for president. He needs to stay with the weak kneed moderate Republicans and stay away from commenting on conservatives.

Ken
So, the anti-choice folks would prefer Hillary over Rudy? So be it.

Alright Galltegfa
Vote for Rudy, then, so long as you like Hillary as President in '08.

Hillary in '08
And there you have it, Hillary wins because the GOP can't agree to disagree on the "moral" issues.

But I'll most likely be voting Libertarian anyway, so don't worry about my vote. Not only am I pro-choice, I don't care if gays want to marry, I would end the war on drugs, and I would eliminate most of the Federal government.

So, though I'm willing to meet the GOP half-way and set aside most of my main concerns for the greater good, I do insist that the candidate be pro-choice. Since that's not acceptable to the self-anointed core of the GOP, I'll have no problem voting my conscience for the Libertarian candidate.

Have a good day.

Ken
If the religous right stays home, the Republicans lose the election.

But the same holds true if small government conservatives stay home. I don't understand what is so hard to understand about that.

The religous right seems to think it can dictate the GOP candidate by threatening to stay home if it don't get exactly what they want. And I guess that has been the case over the past 7 years (look where it has gotten the Republican party). But inevitably, that attitude will lead to a game of chicken between libertarians and Christians. Which will lead to only one outcome -- a fractured party & Hillary as president.

The question is, who is more afraid of that scenario? Certainly not me -- Hillary may fall just short of being a communist, but that only puts her slightly to the left of many of the Republican alternatives (and Bush).

Real Deal?
Mike Huckabee could be the real deal, if he wasn't Mike Huckabee. A George Bush retread if I've ever seen one.

Guiliani
Rudy is called a RINO by many on this site, but outside of social issues, I have yet to hear a compelling argument that he isn't the most conservative candidate in the race.

If posters actually want to sway Republican voters outside of the religious right (and by the way, that's the majority of the Republican party), they should quit complaining about his pro-choice stance and point out flaws in his economic policy. It's not like there are a lot of Rudy supporters who are unaware that he isn't the most rabidly pro-life candidate in the group.

Galltegfa
Although I agree with most of your comments, I'm perfectly willing to accept a pro-life candidate. Truth be told, I just don't care -- abortion is a huge non-issue (nothing is ever going to change) and a candidate's position on the matter should rank about #100 on the list of reasons to vote for him or her. I'm just unwilling to support a socialist that people call "conservative" because he or she is pro-life.

Surprised
I opened this column expecting to see support for Mike Huckabee. I was thus surprised to have to wade through inane, ad hominem attacks on Fred Thompson before Huckabee was even mentioned. Sounds to me like the columnist doth protest too much and thus earned the one check mark I awarded the column.

I have no problem with Huckabee except that his lack of an aura of leadership would hurt him in the general election. He just doesn't look or sound like a strong leader.

As for his support of the Fair Tax, I believe that support won more votes than it cost him. On the other hand, Romney's display of ignorance of the Fair Tax during the recent Republican debates probably cost him votes. He would have been better off to have either admitted that he didn't know the details of the Fair Tax or to have stated logical reasons for not supporting it.

Tom Tancredo is the real conservative
Mike Medved needs to go back to the movies. He is best in the world of pretend. Huckabee is a Reverend with a guilt complex and wants to be president in order to relieve his white man guilt by giving our country to those less fortunate than us. He is for amnesty for illegal aliens, and says it is the Christian thing to do. He will use YOUR money and YOUR resources to fund HIS charity. Tom Tancredo is the true conservative with a 97% LIFETIME rating from the Conservative Union. If Rudy, Mitt, McCain or Fred are conservatives, then I am an athlete!

Ron Paul...to the end
I know many who are going to vote for Ron Paul regardless of him running on a Rep. ticket or not. I am sick to death of having to vote for Rep. I dont like or support simply from fear if I dont the Dem. will win. I'm 37 and have voted for my Rep. candidate every election since 18 regardless if I really felt strongly him or not. Not this time. I dont care if we win or not. At least if Ron runs I can vote for someone I really believe in. If that means in the end the Dems win...so be it.

Thank You Mike.
Medved is right, Mike Huckabee is the real deal. Watch how well Governor Huckabee handles himself by following the link below to his interview on the Daily Show. Don't let the Christian Right label fool you. He is quite capable of engaging our modern society and he looks good doing it.

http://www.comedycentral.com/motherload/player.jhtml?ml_video=80701&ml_collection=&ml_gateway=&ml_gateway_id=&ml_comedian=&ml_runtime=&ml_context=show&ml_origin_url=%2Fextras%2Findecision2008%2Fvideos%2Fcandidates%2Findex.jhtml%3FplayVideo%3D80701&ml_playlist=&lnk=&is_large=true

Ragnar Dannekjöld
(Let me preface this by saying I'm not the same Ken who wrote in support of Tom Tancredo. So far I like Huckabee the best, but one thing is certain: I can't see myself voting for Guiliani.)

"The religous right seems to think it can dictate the GOP candidate by threatening to stay home if it don't get exactly what they want."

It's not a matter of dictating to the GOP or anybody else. It's a matter of voting our consciences. The main reason I refuse to vote for a Democrat is because most Democrats are pro-abortion and pro-gay. Why should I support a Republican candidate who holds the same views? I'd rather lose an election than my self-respect.

Sure, I think Guiliani would be a lesser evil than Hillary, but is that really the kind of theme we want for the next election? I can see it now: "Vote for Rudy. He's not much, but we're better off with him than Hillary." That doesn't sound like a winning slogan to me.

Galltegfa
"So, the anti-choice folks would prefer Hillary over Rudy? So be it."

As I said in my previous post, the "lesser of two evils" theme very seldom wins elections (case in point: Bob Dole in '96). If the only way Republicans can win elections is to become like the Democrats, then this country is done for.

If Republicans are dumb enough to nominate Rudy, they will have no one but themselves to blame for losing the election.

Huck in '08!
I like Mike Huckaby. He speaks plainly. He is a good man. He is trustworthy. More importantly, he doesn't come from the Ivy League crowd, which means he isn't a totally out-of-touch putz. Heaven forbid we should throw our support at someone who has struggled financially, who comes from humble beginnings, and who has had victory over his weight problems! He just seems like a good role-model for Americans to get behind.

spelling!
Huckabee...not Huckaby...Yikes! Don't ask me to create any campaign posters for your candidate!

Feathers in the air
I enjoyed reading why Mike Huckabee is a desirable candidate even though I'm a supporter of Mitt Romney. I also read Mike's book on his successful weight loss. Small details but if a man can regain his health and energy (discipline and focus), those habits can translate into being a fine vice president (contrast with Clinton's self control issues in all areas of his life). I sure don't want Hillary elected and O. B. is green wood in an orator package without proper philosophical grounding (read Democatic). Humor attempted.

I wrote my first blog as a reaction to all the negativity re Mitt and Team's success in Iowa. Seems the naysayers were out in force saying the win was of no consequence. Family Power in Iowa by Wiselady on The View from my Kitchen Windows is my attempt to reorient their bias.

I enjoy the idea exchange here - even when I see the world differently. Great country. Soon. as conservative voters, we need to unite in the areas where we have common ground to win this next election. If Romney doesn't capture the hearts and minds of this nation, he will at least have offered his hat in the ring - and every candidate deserves our thanks to work to be our next president (referring to those of conservative values). I will support the final candidate to avoid an Hillary presidency. Regards to all.

Ken
You may be right that nominating Rudy will hand the election to Hillary. But if you are, it is the death knell of the Republican party, because nominating a big-government social conservative will almost certainly do the same thing.

I can understand all too well why you don't want to vote for the lesser of two evils -- I've been doing that for years (sometimes without fully realizing it) and the end results have been incredibly disappointing. That's the reason Republicans lost in '06 -- not Iraq. Small government conservatives reached the breaking point and stayed home. And it is going to take a very compelling platform on the fiscal/economic side in order to get them back.

Giuliani may not be pefect, but right now he's the only GOP candidate that is even trying to build his platform around those issues (I suppose Ron Paul as well, but I am a realist). "Vote for Rudy. He's not much, but we're better off with him than Hillary" may not be a very compelling slogan to you, but it's a lot better than what Huckabee can offer to me -- "Vote for Mike, he's just like Hillary, except on some insignificant issues you don't care about." That one is certainly not a winner.

The sad thing is, I'm perfectly willing to support a Christian, pro-life, anti-gay marriage president. I just need to have confidence that those issues aren't going to take precedence over the more relevant economic ones. You would think it would be easy to find someone like that. But unfortunately, the religous right appears to have forgotten that they weren't the only part of the Reagan coalition -- as shown by the fact that they don't even try to emphasize the small government credentials of their favored candidates (much less find one that actually has those credentials).





Political Compass
If anyone has ten minutes to waste, I'm curious where the supporters of various candidates wind up on this test (it plots your political views on a 2 dimensional graph -- x axis for economic issues and y axis for social ones). I'm leaning towards Giuliani (although am certainly not locked in) and scored 8.38 (economic), -0.92 (social). Positive scores are associated with "conservative" positions.

http://www.politicalcompass.org/index

Encouraged that Mr Medved's effective
.... endorsement of Mr Huckelbury has inspired such scepticism.

Used to believe Mr Medved's claimed conservative epiphany was real and be impressed by both his mind and by his good manners and graciousness toward those whose un-and-anti-American viewpoints he permitted to be promulgated on his radio show.

Until his effectively froth and foam-flecked support for those criminally invading and increasingly hostilely colonizing our beloved fraternal republic got the better of him, revealed his core liberalism -- and turned me off. And I, him.

For -- and from right up close and personal -- I watched other members of Mr Medved's tribe -- and despite they owned and operated and controlled Southern Africa's mining industry and were richly rewarded by it and were cutting off their own noses by so doing -- similarly corruptly undermine and in the end destroy the (Christian) Republic of South Africa before handing over that sad nation to those with whom, to that end, they'd allied themselves: The murderously inclined Socialist International owned, operated and controlled ANU and its allied South African Communist Party.

you want a compelling argument?
"Rudy is called a RINO by many on this site, but outside of social issues, I have yet to hear a compelling argument that he isn't the most conservative candidate in the race."

What is so Conservative about the Constitutional philosophy that taxpayers must contribute to pay for abortions? If that is not an expansion of government... well that is an expansion of governmental power.

Then we mention the social issue of outlawing firearms and forcing law-abiding citizens to either give up their Second Amendment rights or become outlaws themselves?

Lefty Republicans keep using the words "social issues" as dismissively as they can. I can't think of an issue that ultimately isn't a social issue; what is more of a social issue than small government, greater freedom, and better personal responsibility?

"moderates" you say
"it is time for us GOP moderates, the 'Giuliani-Schwarzenegger' wing of the party, to lead and provide the populist message that will give us back the Presidency and the Congress in 2008."

There is nothing populist about a larger government. Schwarzenegger and Guiliani are practically socialists compared to anything that would appeal to a red-blooded American (and not a Red-loving Hippy commie pinko freako). Of course, I'm not pulling ad hominem cards lightly, given the Governator's proposals for socialing medicine for children, including illegal aliens, and I did mention the dress-wearer's proclivity for disarming Americans in the face of crime, muggers, and injustice.


Medved is full of it
Ron Paul wins the straw polls in Alabama and New Hampshire, soundly beating Huckabee in both (Huckabee was even present in New Hampshire). and Medved thinks that Huckabee is the real deal? Give me a break. Huckabee is another big government loving Christian-conservative lacking any values desirable in an elected official.

I guess in today's Republican Party, being a Christian who doesn't believe in evolution is all someone needs to be considered electable.

anowrast
I'm sick of that kind of cynicism directed towards the Christian right folk. At some point both folks like you and Falwellian folks have a place in the GOP constituency, and your resentment strikes me as rather nuts, considering how regardless of religion, Ron Paul's pseudo-isolationist stance is one foreign policy that casts as paper tigers to the world.

Don't give me your anti-Christian shite when as far as I can recall Dr. Paul is a Christian, and even if he isn't, the reason a lot of Republicans won't support him is his idea of diplomacy with villains.

Omitting the FairTax
Medved is showing his statist credentials by ignoring the major reason Huckabee did so well in Iowa: his support of the FairTax. This statist thinking is what makes Republicans like Medved as bad as Democrats.

Congratulations to Huckabee and the success of the FairTax people. But the statists own the Republicans because most conservatives are statists too.

Vote third party.

http://freedomistheanswer.blogspot.com/

The King of the Pardons
Another bleeding heart who puts violent offenders back on the street.

Ragnar Dannekjöld
"Vote for Mike, he's just like Hillary, except on some insignificant issues you don't care about."

With all due respect, you clearly do not get it. The abortion issue and the gay marriage issue are NOT insignificant. Many Republicans care about those issues very much. I guarantee you that the so-called "religious right" cares about them. Why should we vote for Guiliani if he's going to be just like the Democrats on these issues?

History is against you on this one. The last "pro-choice" Republican to be nominated as president was Gerald Ford. We saw what happened to him. George Bush, Sr., was rather wishy-washy on the issue in '92, as was Bob Dole in '96. We saw what happened to them.

Ken
Try reading my post again. Particularly the 6 words preceding the excerpt you posted. I wrote:

...but it's a lot better than what Huckabee can offer to me -- "Vote for Mike, he's just like Hillary, except on some insignificant issues you don't care about." That one is certainly not a winner.

The words you appear to have missed are: "what Huckabee can offer to me." And to me, abortion is a complete non-issue. In other words, insignificant.

I agree with you that the religous right does not feel the same way. Where I disagree is your apparent belief that the religious right is large enough to elect a Republican candidate by itself. Good luck with that.

And, on an unrelated note, Bush Sr. lost becuase he raised taxes -- plain and simple. Trying to attribute that to his views on abortion is ridiculous...they were basically the same in '92 as in '88. Or at least a lot more similar than his views on taxes. 1988: "Read my lips, no new taxes" and a win. 1992: Raised Taxes and a loss. The correlation seems pretty obvious to me.

cjaguy
"What is so Conservative about the Constitutional philosophy that taxpayers must contribute to pay for abortions? If that is not an expansion of government... well that is an expansion of governmental power."

I appreciate the attempt to frame the issue in a way that matters to libertarians, instead of just ranting about how the religuous right doesn't need "country-club Republicans" in their party.

And I agree...taxpayers shouldn't contribute a dime towards abortions. The issue I have is one of magnitude. Counting my employer's contribution, I pay over $10,000 a year towards Social Security, 90% of which I will never see again (at best). Basically, it's the equivalent of someone breaking into my home and stealing my car every 12 months.

How much a year do I pay to fund abortions? If it's more than $10,000, then abortion will immediately move ahead of social security reform on my list of issues. But I suspect the correct figure is probably something closer to what I spend on lunch. And given the dramatic difference in magnitude, I am likely to believe that any candidate that places more emphasis on abortion than on social security reform is one that is driven by motives other than reducing the size of the federal government.

And just to be clear...
I live in Boston, and can't afford a home (or a parking spot) -- that was hyperbole. My net worth is negative due to over $100k in student loans. Yet I am "rich", according to the government, and therefore it is perfectly acceptable to force me to pay over $50k a year in income taxes and payroll deductions. Yet the drug addict on the corner, who has a higher net worth than me and contributes far less to the economy, pays nothing. I am not happy about that. If that makes me a country-club Republican, so be it. I just wish I could afford to join said club.

Ragnar Dannekjöld
"Where I disagree is your apparent belief that the religious right is large enough to elect a Republican candidate by itself."

Apparently you've not read my previous posts very carefully, because I never said any such thing. I only said if Rudy is the nominee, Republicans are going to lose.

I agree that Bush's reneging on his "no new taxes" promise didn't help him in '92, but neither did his wishy-washy stance on abortion. The same can be said for Bob Dole in '96. I voted for both men, but I found them hard to sell to most Christian conservatives. Rudy Guiliani will be much harder.

A lot of ministers - including this one - stuck their necks out for President Bush in the last election. We didn't elect him singlehandedly, but he couldn't have won without the support of Christian conservatives. Rudy Guiliani does not have that kind of support, and never will.

Many RINOs have grumbled that the so-called "religious right" has had too much influence in the Republican party. If Rudy is the nominee, you may just get your chance to see what you can do without us. Good luck (you'll need it), but don't blame us when he loses.

Uh, NO!
The Huckster opposed restricting illegal aliens' access to welfare, saying,

"If we send a message that essentially if you don't look like us, talk like us and speak like us we don't want you, it has tremendous economic repercussions."

Yep, if you restict welfare payments based on BEE-HAVIOR, you're a bigot who'll cost the state a Nissan or Nestle's plant.

Think I'll give that "fringe" "anti-immigration" candidate a second look.

Huckabee rising on wings of the FairTax
Naysayers against the FairTax - ipso facto defenders of the income tax - are unwittingly bringing the country to an economic meltdown ( Dr. Kotlikoff http://snipurl.com/meltdowninprogress ). Do naysayers really believe:

• Workers love hourly confiscation of their pay, through gov't withholding and don't mind wasting another 50 hrs (avg) on a tax return?

• It's better to have theIRS fishing through citizens' income transactions (audits, interest, penalties, and threats against individuals, families, businesses; confiscation of homes, property, and bank accounts) rather than - Gawd forbid - issuing a gov't check to an individual (while pretending that Social Security payments disbursement logistics really can't work for "prebates")?

• That an monthly advance tax rebate is the same thing as "being on the dole" ? (Only lobbyists, special interests, and business deserve "handouts" - the politician gets a payoff from a lobbyist, the lobbyist gets a payoff from its client, and the citizen gets higher taxes and/or prices that pay for it all.)

• It's better to have a gargantuan tax collection "service" in Washington, than to have 50 decentralized, smaller, leaner state collection agencies collecting taxes from fewer sources?

• That FairTax's backing by many economists ( http://snipurl.com/econsopenletter ) doesn't carry any weight because (the Brookings') Wm Gale's testimony before the President's Commission on Tax Reform ( http://snipurl.com/taxpanelrebutted ) is somehow above all that?!

The time for sitting around, pontificating, is over. We have NO CHOICE but to ACT: http://snipr.com/scrapthecode

Mr. Medved, you're wrong
Mr. Medved, you're wrong -- it's very easy to get mad at the Huckabee huckster. I'm appalled foremost at his proposal for a national public smoking ban. Anyone who opposes individual liberties is a danger to true conservatives. He doesn't seem charming to me, he seems presumptuous and shallow. As a reformed ''fatty'' will he next propose bans on various foods he deems unhealthy?
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