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Wednesday, March 18, 2009
Michael Gerson :: Townhall.com Columnist
Caution and Confusion on Iran
by Michael Gerson
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WASHINGTON -- One of the snippiest arguments between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton during the Democratic primary concerned negotiations with Iran. Obama impulsively pledged to meet with the leaders of various outlaw regimes in his first year as president. Clinton countered, "I don't want to be used for propaganda purposes. ... We're not going to just have our president meet with Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez and, you know, the president of North Korea, Iran and Syria until we know better what the way forward would be."

So far, Clinton's approach has prevailed on Iran, for a number of reasons.

First, Iran has a presidential election set for June 12, in which the apocalyptic populist Mahmoud Ahmadinejad faces a strong reformist opponent. Ahmadinejad's political standing has been weakened by inflation running over 20 percent and estimated unemployment near 30 percent. His prospects might be strengthened by direct, high-level American engagement. The administration has properly avoided giving a demagogue a global stage during an election.

Second, Iran has not been in a cooperative mood. Ahmadinejad greeted Obama's inaugural appeal -- the outreached hand for the unclenched fist -- with the demand for an apology for "crimes" against Iran and "deep and fundamental" change in U.S. policy. Recently, for good measure, he repeated his assertion that the Holocaust is a "big lie." Earlier this month, Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, gave his first public comments on the new era of openness and diplomacy. He attacked Obama for adopting George W. Bush's strategic commitment to Israel, calling that nation a "cancerous tumor." He expressed unequivocal support for terrorist movements such as Hamas and Hezbollah, and criticized Palestinian leaders for any compromise with the "Zionist regime."

Iranian leaders and proxies seem to be taking the offer of negotiations as a sign of American weakness. "The United States," taunts Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah, "is ready now to talk with any party, not out of a sense of morality, but because it failed in its attempts to implement its plans in the region."

Meanwhile, the Iranian Quds Force continues to lead, train and arm Shiite terrorists within Iraq. And, in Senate committee testimony last week, Director of National Intelligence Dennis Blair stated, "Some officials, such as Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Commander Maj. Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari-Najafabadi, have hinted that Iran would have a hand in attacks on 'America's interests even in far-away places,' suggesting Iran has contingency plans for unconventional warfare and terrorism against the United States and its allies."

Rather than unclenching its fist, Iran has been pounding it on the table.

Third, Clinton and special envoy George Mitchell have returned from trips to the Middle East sobered by the intensity of Arab fears of Iranian intentions. After visiting with Arab foreign ministers, Clinton recounted hearing "over and over and over again" grave concern about the Iranian threat. A high-profile outreach to Iran would likely be taken by Arab leaders as American betrayal. Given the conspiratorial assumptions of Arab diplomacy, they would assume that America is cutting a secret deal with Iran -- and be led to cut such deals of their own.

So the administration has adopted an incremental approach. Clinton has proposed an international conference on Afghanistan that would include Iranian officials, providing a chance for face-to-face meetings on the sidelines -- just as Condoleezza Rice called for an international conference on Iraq including Iranian officials, whom she met face-to-face on the sidelines. And Clinton has undertaken an outreach to Syria -- just as Rice reached out to Syria before the 2007 Annapolis peace conference.

Far from being impulsive on Iran, the administration has sent mixed signals about its sense of urgency. The International Atomic Energy Agency recently concluded that Iran has sufficient stockpiles of low-enriched uranium -- the most difficult part of the enrichment cycle -- to build a nuclear weapon after a short period of further enrichment. The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Adm. Michael Mullen, says he believes "Iran is on a path to develop nuclear weapons." At the same time, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates contends, "They're not close to a weapon at this point" and asserts that the "barrier" for military action against Iran is the question "Are we going to be attacked here at home?" -- which doesn't offer much consolation to Israel or America's Arab friends.

At this point, the administration is combining a policy of caution with a message of confusion. And it does not seem likely to persuade or intimidate.

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Michael Gerson writes a twice-weekly column for The Post on issues that include politics, global health, development, religion and foreign policy. Michael Gerson is the author of the book "Heroic Conservatism" and a contributor to Newsweek magazine.
 
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I Trust Obama
Ronald Reagan used to quote the old Russian proverb, "Trust, But Verify."

Same goes with the Obama-Hillary-Ross-Iran situation.
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But this comment should be placed in the context of the sensible-sounding argument of Elliot Abrams in a recent "The Weekly Standard" article: realism is the key.

In other words, no rush on the settlements issue. Also a tentative peace with those among the Palestinians who want it makes sense. A "no state solution."

At least, not any time soon.

It would be nice to have peace in our lifetimes, but we have to be realistic. Sober-minded.

Another war for Israel Gerson ?
"Some officials, such as Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Commander Maj. Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari-Najafabadi, have hinted that Iran would have a hand in attacks on 'America's interests even in far-away places,' suggesting Iran has contingency plans for unconventional warfare and terrorism against the United States and its allies."

Gerson, why did you not finish the statement with the condition that Iran would strike at US interest if attacked by the US ! You must be an Israeli firster since you are using such a deception . I personally like that Ahmadinejad has again repeated that the holocaust is a big lie . Why you might ask ? Simply because the story of 1500 people being asphyxiated to death with an insecticide in makeshift airraid shelters is nonsense . The genocide propaganda was promoted by Rafael Lemkin from the Jewish War Refugee Board and allied propaganda specialists disseminated it as part of their black psychological operations. The Israeli politicians and their neocon fifth column here in the US fear that the holocaust myth will crumble and their number one weapon will no longer exist. It will take some time but thinking persons are starting to openly question the "holocaust" story . The gas chamber story will fall by the wayside the same way that the human soap story and the lampshade made from human skin stories fell. I do no doubt that the "holocaust industry" will not give up their lie without using every means at their disposal including attacking our first amendment .

Obama is Naive to the 9th degree
For Obama to believe that he can change Iran's direction in regards to obtaining a Nuclear Weapon, he is either Delusional or very very Naive. Obama is a complete Rookie, everyone now see's this. Someone (an Adult), needs to sit down with this young Community Organizer and explain to him the way the real world works. I've heard that Liberals have a hard time understanding the concept of EVIL, and that Conservatives have a hard time understanding Liberals.

Joseph
Stop and think more about what your saying about the holocaust. It happened and you need to come to terms with that! Gerson wants another war with Iran, but ever society has their bad men and there are thousands of decent Jews who don't follow that line.

A few things
Plenty of Hezbollah in Latin America and with their ties to other groups there--drug cartels who are excellent at bringing people and anything else into the US--it will be rather easy to get them into the US. An attack on Iran by the US will lead to an attack on the US by Hezbollah from Latin America. If Israel is concerned about Iran--let it go after them. This is not a fight the US needs to get involved in.

Second, how do you plan to take our its nuclear program? It is not like Iraq 1980--its facilities are dispersed and hardened. Air raids will be of limited use at stopping the Iranian program. It will also give a huge lift of support to a pretty unpopular regime. Despite the dislike many have for the regime, the nuclear program is a huge source of national pride and is supported even by those who are opponents of the regime. And since the last non-nuclear member of the Axis of Evil was invaded by the US and had the regime changed and since Iran has thousands of US troops on both sides--to the east and west, if I was Iran I'd be looking to get nuclear weapons too--post haste.

Outside of invasion and regime changed (and we saw how well that worked in the case of Iraq--a weaker and much smaller country and one that didn't have perhaps hundreds or more of loyal Hezbollah members in the same hemisphere), there is no military option to the Iran nuclear program. What would President Robert do?


Yo Akagi
President Robert would of taken Iran out back in 1980 after they took our Embassy and Hostages and held them for 444 days. How about that Mr. Akagi. Your boy obambi is neck deep in his own self made Crisis's and will not be able to deal with any external Threats effectively for the next 3+ Years of his time in office. You better hope we do not get any serious Challenges were we have to go to war. So Mr. Akagi, Tell me how would you deal with Iran? Would you do the same as your Brilliant Messiah and shuffle your feet and hug your Teleprompter.

Reply to TAFT
Taft, I summed up the "holocaust" story in several words. Think for a moment: up until 1960 we were told that there was a lethal "gas chamber" in Dachau . Then in 1960 Yad Vashem and the Institute for Contemporary History in Munich announce: no gassings in Dachau; nor in any of the other camps located in the Reich proper ! Well, US and British soldiers only filmed those camps where after 15 years we are finally told that there were no gassings . Why the lies for 15 years ? Rafael Lemkin and the allied propaganda machine is the answer. Bishop Williamson is correct . Taft , now think for a few moments about how these mass gassings were to be carried out with an insecticide ? British soldiers upon arrival at Bergen-Belsen used ddt to delouse clothing and barracks. The Germans used zyklon-b to delouse clothing and barracks. Challenge yourself to search for information on how the Germans were to asphyxiate 1500 people at one time in 15 minutes in an air raid shelter in Auschwitz with an insecticide . Spare me no detail no matter how small . This mass gassing is nonsense pure and simple. Rudolf Hoss "confessed" to this nonsense . He was tortured by British sgt. Bernard Clarke and handed over to the Polish communists . Confession from tortured Germans are meaningless when they defy the laws of physics and chemitry and last and not least common sense, yet that is the sole "evidence"
for these extraordinary "stories" .

Establishing a tripwire
I agree that the U.S. cannot throw a blind punch at Iran and just hope for the best. But the U.S. should establish a tripwire: If Iran attempts to use nukes against Israel, or Saudi Arabia, or ANY nation, the U.S. will consider that as an attack on the vital interests of the U.S., triggering a full retaliatory response against Iran. IOW, a posture similar to the one JFK adopted during the Cuban Missile Crisis: The first nuke you use will be the last time you ever attack anybody anywhere.

Yup, Joe, the "only" evidence
Yeah, all German concentration camp soldiers were tortured to confess to a complete lie, even the ones who were unapologetic and proud of what they did. Russian, British, French, and American torturers got a strange uniformity in their guilty pleas. Amazing, isn't it? At least you agree Jews were stuffed in those concentration camps, don't you? How did they get there? Why? Who put them there? It was voluntary, right? Or did they think they were in a vacation spot or retreat center? They were tortured to say they were forced into those camps, right? Listen to yourself, you fool.

And human experimentation, which some univerisities still have handwritten data from the very scientists themselves, was all nonsense too, right? Of course. No family and friends of victims exist to testify to it. And why the uniformity in description between concentration camp soldiers and victims? Wow. I guess the victims' families were tortured too. Nice. I can't imagine what it must be like to think like you do...to bring up the Holocaust in an article that really isn't about that.

Film footage shot during the American liberation certainly didn't prove anything either to revisionists like you. No proof is enough for you. That's fine. I just wish you'd keep your mouth shut about it. You know, like you do about the robe in your closet.

If it's all such a conspiracy, Joe, why do you care? Let it join the ranks of space alien abduction and Big Foot. I don't see you commenting about that? Let it go. At least your silence will not muddy the waters. I have a feeling, though, your comments come from some dark place.

Steve L
That's small consolation to Israel. And it's hard to see how a country with an apocolyptic suicide wish sees that as a deterrent. When's the last time someone said, "If you do that we'll give you all eternity in absolute bliss," as a way to get someone not to do something.

Jimbo
That German soldiers were tortured was confirmed by the Van Roden commission . Even Raul Hilberg conceded in a Toronto court that Kurt Gerstein was "mishandled" . Reread my post.
Who told our soldiers that Jewish bodies were boiled to make soap ? Who told our soldiers that there was a lampshade made from human skin(Jewish skin I presume)? Jimbo, answer my question: give me the link to the actual description of the process whereby the asphyxiation by insecticide (zyklon-b)took place . I want to know the process . If you cannot tell me , then you are asking me to have faith and that makes it (the gas chamber story) a religious dogma !

Jimbo
I brought this "holocaust" story up because Gerson brought it up in his article. Am I supposed to hate Ahmadinejad and the rest of the Iranians because Ahmadinejad who is an engineer and teaches at Teheran University spoke about the hypocracy in the west: make fun of religion - freedom of the press , free speech . question the gas chamber nonsense - go to jail in many european countries ! In fact when Ahmadinejad called the "holocaust" a myth, Blair suggested that Ahmadinejad go to the camps and see for himself. Ahmadinejad responded that he will go and bring along with him a team forensic scientists . After a two day silence, the Auschwitz director publicly stated that anyone suspected of challenging the official "story" will not be allowed into the camp ! Jimbo, WW II is a secular historical event and it must be open to researchers and historians just like every other historical event is ! We live in the 21st century and in western countries we have thought crimes under the guise of hate legislation. I hope you are a diehard supporter of the first amendment ?

Jimbo
"And it's hard to see how a country with an apocolyptic suicide wish sees that as a deterrent."

When was the last time that Iran invaded another country without cause? Over a hundred years? When was the last time the US did? 6 years ago?

Some suicide wish from Iran, eh?


Robert
"Would you do the same as your Brilliant Messiah and shuffle your feet and hug your Teleprompter."

Yes which is the same as Bush has done. Gone to war with Iran in 1980? I am betting that wouldn't have worked out too well.


SteveL
Iran has zero nuclear weapons and Israel has perhaps as many at 450 (and at least 250) and if so would make it's stockpile equal to China's. Since Isreal is just a few minutes away flight time with 450 nukes and US troops on both sides and the last non-nuclear Axis of Evil ended up invaded by the US, if I was Iran I'd get getting my hands on nuclear weapons as fast as I could. To paraphrase a former British diplomat (and he was talking about China)If I was in Tehran, I think I'd have difficulty controlling the functions of my bowels.


JOSEPH
You have the right to deny the holocaust if that keeps you at peace with the worse side of humanity.
I visited Dachau in the 1960's and another Jewish Concentration Camp in Czechoslovakia in the 1990's.
When you walk into those camps you feel the chill of the most heinous way that humans can be treated. In Dachau there was still evidence of gas chambers. To see these death camps will sear a picture in your brain and memory that you never can forget. Yes, lamps made from human skin do exist as well as torture chambers.

I can only suggest that you go see for yourself and come back and then tell us all that the holocaust is propaganda.



Reba
Dachau was a concentration, not an extermination camp and most there were non-Jews--political prisoners mostly. A good number did die there but mostly due to disease and malnutrition. But only about 12% of its population died which compared to most Japanese POW camps is quite low.

At Andersonville, nearly 25% died and at Camp Douglas, an infamous Union POW camp near Chicago.

Dachau isn't particularly a good example of the Holocaust owing to it wasn't an extermination camp, most inmates weren't Jews and relatively few died. Auschwitz-Birkenau on the other hand did have gas chamber, it was an extermination camp and millions died (at least 1 and perhaps as many as 3 million in fact).


Akagi
Would it be prudent for Iran to develop the bomb because they have so much to defend that is worth defending? Or is it something more crass like the retention and exercise of power on the part of the leadership (as it is pretty much everywhere there is gov't (and where there isn't too.))

If power is such a crass exercise, then it seems an alliance against the Iranians presents no moral qualms. It's just crass.

And as for holding the bomb, the US and Israel have managed not to use them as first strike weapons, and I dare say not as an instrument of intimidation merely for selfish aims (beyond self preservation.)

I am unsettled by the notion of an Iranian bomb because I am not convinced it is an instrument of mere self preservation.

Akagi & Reba
You both are contradicting each other on Dachau.

Akagi, w/r to Auschwitz, if you are convinced that it had/has a gas chamber used to asphyxiate humans then try to answer the question that I posed to Jimbo. You will be answering this question for yourself as well.
-give me the link to the actual description of the process whereby the asphyxiation by insecticide (zyklon-b)took place . I want to know the process . If you cannot tell me , then you are asking me to have faith and that makes it (the gas chamber story) a religious dogma ! -

Just a word of caustion: Prof. Arno Meyer (Princeton: Jewish) in his book "Why Did The Heavens Not Darken" states that " souirces for the study of the gas chamber are at once rare and unreliable" .

Dave
US twice used the bomb as an instrument of intimidation--1953 to force the PRC and DPRK to end the war and 1958 during the Second Taiwan Strait Crisis. These two events more than anything convinced Mao he needed the bomb (not that the PRC wasn't working on it before 1958) and in 1962 China went nuclear.



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