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Friday, May 25, 2007
Megan Basham :: Townhall.com Columnist
Stay-at-Home Economics
by Megan Basham
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Last year, in response to the increasing numbers of women opting out of the workforce, author Linda Hirshman took to the morning shows proclaiming women demean themselves by becoming fulltime mothers. No matter how much love goes into the labor of cleaning the dishes and changing the diapers, it is beneath their dignity, she insisted.

For the most part, the stay-at-home crowd yawned, flipped the channels and cheerfully returned to the debasing business of shuttling the kids from school to soccer practice. However, while the latest feminist general to take the field in the Mommy Wars has the same end in mind—the return of all women to fulltime work—her battle plan seems far more likely to yield results. Rather than shaming women back into the office, she attempts to scare them into it.

In her new book, The Feminine Mistake, Vanity Fair writer Leslie Bennetts charges that women who step-back from working are taking an extreme economic risk. Book critics and editorialists at major papers and women’s magazines have tended to agree. They may not all appreciate her tone, but they still applaud Bennetts for issuing a “wake-up call” to wives who depend on their men to provide for the family.

Yet if off-ramping is the dangerous “high-stakes gamble” Bennetts and her supporters claim, why are so many smart, rational women laying their money and their futures on the table? Perhaps because even a cursory look at hard data (rather than the collection of sad stories Bennetts has put forth) indicates that, statistically, there is very little to fear from making motherhood a career choice. Indeed, having one partner out of the workforce can actually provide protection against financial ruin.

According to work-first feminists, the scariest bogeyman looming over women who stay home is divorce. Men leave their wives high and dry all the time, she insists. In fact, they don’t. Women initiate about two-thirds of divorces, so the idea that droves of middleclass men are blindsiding their spouses with abandonment is almost as much a fantasy as Prince Charming once was.

Of course, that still leaves the third who will not initiate their divorces, but research demonstrates that the women Bennetts fears for most are the least likely to be a part of that group. Among wives with at least a bachelors degree (the demographic that stands to lose the most career ground by stepping back from the workforce) only 16 percent will divorce within ten years. Given that 60 percent of all divorces occur within that time frame, educated opt-out moms are playing very good odds.

The statistics are also favorable for stay-at-home mothers in general. During the 90s, stay-at-home wives were 40 percent less likely to get divorced than their working counterparts. A 2004 study in the Journal of Marriage and Family revealed that couples have a much greater chance of splitting when the husband and wife earn equal incomes than when one partner is the primary breadwinner. When the higher-earning partner does leave, it is most often the wife.

Numerous studies have found that the better able a man is to provide financially (thus making the option of a stay-at-home wife more feasible) the less likely a couple is to end their union. Taken all together, this makes the average middleclass husband seem about as much of a financial risk as a blue-chip stock.

Still, Bennetts and her supporters argue, a woman who does not work fulltime, uninterrupted over the course of her life puts her family at risk even if her husband doesn’t divorce her. “Some [women] are going to have husbands who become ill or incapacitated, or who die early. And many are going to have husbands who lose their jobs at one point or another,” she warned on The Today Show.

Ignoring for a moment the obvious solution of life and long-term care insurance, she seems to have point. Yet bankruptcy data shows that in reality the opposite is true. Far from offering them a buffer against rough economic winds, women in dual-income families are more likely to face financial ruin than those in single-earner families.

Two-income couples have about a 27 percent greater probability of filing for bankruptcy than families that rely on a single paycheck. The reason for this is simple--where dual-earner families are maxed out as far as possible income and consequently have no safety net in the event of illness or unemployment, single-earner families do. Should the worst happen, the wife can return to the workforce and make up for some or all of her husband’s lost income.

“The two-income family is a more deeply leveraged economic unit, with more of its income committed to a relentless list of fixed expenses, leaving them with less flexibility in times of trouble,” wrote Harvard Law Professor, Elizabeth Warren in The Two Income Trap, a book Bennetts cites but completely misrepresents.. After years of researching bankruptcy, she concluded, “Families in the new economy, with all adults—both mom and dad—in the workforce, face much greater risks than their one-paycheck counterparts.”

Not every woman will want or be able to eschew work completely, but it is clear that a fulltime job is not the panacea of protection that feminists suggest. Sometimes the most economically sensible thing a mother can do—other than making sure that her family has adequate insurance coverage—is follow her heart home.

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Megan Basham is the author of Beside Every Successful Man: A Woman's Guide To Having It All

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Ms. Basham,
Excellent article. Pointing out the inconsistencies in Bennett's case (the same ones ignored by her supporters) was quite revealing. From what little I have read about Bennett's book, I find myself wondering what she says about the children? Are they better off with two parents who work? Are they better off having two parents who work who can buy them things or sign them up for every class/sport under the sun, but NOT spend time with them (and I do not fall for the "quality vs. quantity time" baloney.) Are they better off coming home to an empty house and no one to talk to except their peers/computer pals? Are they better off seeing their parents for a few brief moments each day in between their parent's work hours and home chores? From what I have seen of kids in these situations I would have to say no.

Since I am a parent (post grad degree) who chose (along with my husband) to stay home to raise our children, I fail to understand Bennett's arguments. From my perspective I cannot imagine why someone would bother to have children and then turn them over to be raised 3/4 of the time by strangers. The money (or fears of divorce/illness etc.) does NOT justify working over raising your family. Bennett's scare tactic arguments are just rationalizations to make working moms feel better. Personally, I think way too many adults have become so self-centered and self-focused that they only see their family in terms of "my needs," competely failing to see the bigger picture. There is not one minute that I regret not having more things (a bigger house, newer cars, expensive vacations, etc.) over being able to be at home with my children. In my heart I know it was the best gift they could have been given.

Thank you for writing this!
Miss Basham, as I'm sure you're aware, the facets of the working-wife / stay-at-home mother debate are so many and so contentious that a library of books on the subject would not cover them all definitively. The simple statistics you provide are more useful, being the sort of guide to behavior that people actually use, rather than airy theory.

American women are quite observant enough and smart enough to know where the odds lie in the battles over security, marriage, and motherhood, God bless 'em. It should come as no surprise that growing numbers are exercising the choice the gender-war feminists hate most.

Well there you go again
"According to work-first feminists, the scariest bogeyman looming over women who stay home is divorce. Men leave their wives high and dry all the time, she insists. In fact, they don’t. Women initiate about two-thirds of divorces..."

And why do they initiate those divorces? BECAUSE OF SOMETHING THE MEN ARE DOING. Or sometimes not doing, like not holding a job, not bringing home the paycheque, not paying their taxes, or not being faithful to their wives.

So let's not start that "it's all the fault of the girls" drivel, okay?

Now, I am on record as respecting any woman's choice to stay home and rear her children and in fact to sit in front of the teevee and eat bonbons in hair curlers if her husband and she are agreed that this is what they both want, and if the children are well cared for and the bills are paid by the husband and not the State. However, the indisputable fact is that at some point in her life, a woman is going to have to be responsible for her own food, clothing and shelter; if not divorce, major illness or invalidism of her husband can strike -- workplace injuries happen far more frequently to men than to women -- and of course men die younger than women do. So while I do not believe that all women should be full time toilers in the salt mines, I DO believe that all women should be prepared to assume the burden of feeding the family and keeping the roof over their heads if push comes to shove. There's nothing to stop her keeping her skills sharp when the kids are asleep or otherwise occupied, and volunteer work can help sharpen those skills if she chooses her volunteer gig wisely. Stay at home wives and mothers should also be sure there is adequate insurance on both of them to cover disability and death -- particularly when the family is young; one thing the recent articles about how much a stay at home mother 'should' be paid ought to have done was to remind Mom and Dad that if Mom is in a car accident on the way to the soccer game and rendered paraplegic, somebody's got to take over her duties and that somebody is going to have to be paid.

The eternal Mommy War is being fought on false premises by and large, and the idea that it's possible for Mommy to live in a Big Comfy Couch cocoon where Prince Charming pays all the bills by magic is both silly and dangerous. Stay At Home Mom should keep her skills sharp and make sure that she takes her share of the responsibility for seeing that if anything happens to change the circumstances of their happy life together, that life can go on without misery.

Women's anxiety about money...
AudiR10 - either you don't have a family, or you shouldn't have one...

You can't live your life in a vacuum. Women who don't rely on their husbands as breadwinners in the child-rearing years undermine them, and men need respect and a vote of confidence from their wives. Men and women have distinct roles; much like in nature, and guess what? Men are better bread-winners, and women are better nurturers! Women are even better nurturers when they're educated, skilled and resourceful (likewise the men). Our cultures collective anxiety about money (driven by a woman's inate need for security becoming and anxiety riddled conquest), is paying a huge price in neglecting our children. Yes; neglecting. Remember, child-rearing years are only for a season. When they grow up, do what you do. But don't for a minute think that your career is more valuable than your role as a mother. Your kid won't thank you for it. I'm sure the kids are so exited that "mommy has to work."

I live in a half-million dollar house, and in my neighborhood, the families that have both parents working are a mess (not to mention the 20K per year day-care bills).

Raise the standard of living, but lower the standards for the family, then watch the next generation ruin our civilization.

As for Bon-bons, I'll leave those for my 350LB sister-in-law, the aspiring career woman who always "wanted" a family, but even at 40 years old, could never grow up to actually have one.






















AudiR10
"I am on record as respecting any woman's choice to stay home and rear her children and in fact to sit in front of the teevee and eat bonbons in hair curlers"

There YOU go again with the typical feminist pot-shot at women who choose not to be paid for their work.

I thought the whole point of the women's movement in the first place was to put women in a position to make their own decisions by fighting for the same educational and professional opportunities as men.

That educated women are giving up their paid professions to choose full time motherhood is proof that the movement was successful. If the only thing left for feminists to do is criticize the women they liberated, perhaps it's time for them to realize that their work is done and they should now move on to another worthy cause.

There you go again
However, the indisputable fact is that at some point in her life, a woman is going to have to be responsible for her own food, clothing and shelter; if not divorce, major illness or invalidism of her husband can strike -- workplace injuries happen far more frequently to men than to women -- and of course men die younger than women do. So while I do not believe that all women should be full time toilers in the salt mines, I DO believe that all women should be prepared to assume the burden of feeding the family and keeping the roof over their heads if push comes to shove.
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I guess you didn't read the part of the article that addressed this issue - ever hear of product called life insurance? It pretty much addresses all the issues you attempt to make. For the families that have planned for the possibility of a spouse’s death the occurrence would be more akin to winning the lottery then a financial hardship.


Generation X is the product of the feminist movement. Study the demographics, the better educated women (and men) of that (my) generation have rejected the call to work force (especially during the infant an toddler years) and have found that becoming a stay at home mother more important. The educated women that grew up with working mothers have decided that they don't want their children raised by day cares - they lived it and feel it is a lousy way to treat children. While the ME generation attempted to flaunt their wealth by owning a boat, two luxury cars and pool, the new sign of affluence is having a stay at home wife.

Not ashamed wrote:
"From my perspective I cannot imagine why someone would bother to have children and then turn them over to be raised 3/4 of the time by strangers."

Amen. I was reminded again this week why my husband and I decided I would stay home with our kids. I had jury duty, and was out of the house from 8 in the morning until 6:30 at night - the way I would be with a full-time job. That gave me approximately one very busy hour with my 3 kids in the morning - breakfast, get dressed, brush your hair, not those shoes, do those socks match? - and two similarly busy hours doing dinner and baths before bedtime. Thankfully school's out so we didn't have homework and sports practice. I'm sorry, but that is simply not enough time to expect to be a primary influence in their lives.

Hi AudiR!
I understand where you're coming from. I believe that women should have some sort of skill or education in case push comes to shove. Dad can lose his job and have trouble finding a new one (especially in our area) or become disabled.

A friend of mine with 4 young children almost lost her husband to complications from open-heart surgery. This lady has a college degree, but is a very needy and dependent person. If anything happened to her husband, she and the kids would have been up the creek.

People shouldn't fault women who have had the foresight to get an education with a marketable skill. I know women who have had to wait tables or work in retail for very low wages, and have a very difficult time making ends meet.

To me, it just makes more sense that a woman be able to "take the baton and run with it."

Yes, of course, the marriage and kids come first. Yes, of course, Mom can leave the outside workforce to care for her family, maybe permanently. No one can replace Mom. But Proverbs 31 describes how a woman provides for her family. Mostly inside the home, but also outside.

AudiR10
I continually feel such a burden to pray that whatever hurt resides deep in your heart be lifted. I can't imagine what other reason would cause an otherwise intelligent, well spoken woman to lash out like you do sometimes. Perhaps it was a father who abandoned a faithful mother, or a lost love who wanted more of a sacrifice from you that you were prepared to give. Whatever hurt was caused by an earthly male, I pray that you seek the heavenly Father,Jesus, the lover of our souls, and the Spirit, our comforter to mend this hole in your heart.

I would agree that sometimes women feel they must leave if they have an abusive spouse etc., but Audi, you must admit that more times than not women leave because they are selfish. Sure, husbands aren't perfect, but neither are wives. Husbands aren't the only ones not being faithful. There are plenty of "Desperate Housewives" in our own neighborhoods who have one eye out for something better than what they have.

I agree wholeheartedly with the other posters that our children's welfare is more important than whatever financial security may be gained by me abandoning them to daycare. The key is to pick a husband in the first place that shares the same attitude.

Great point
“The two-income family is a more deeply leveraged economic unit, with more of its income committed to a relentless list of fixed expenses, leaving them with less flexibility in times of trouble,” wrote Harvard Law Professor, Elizabeth Warren in The Two Income Trap, a book Bennetts cites but completely misrepresents.. After years of researching bankruptcy, she concluded, “Families in the new economy, with all adults—both mom and dad—in the workforce, face much greater risks than their one-paycheck counterparts.”

My husband and I are planning on having a baby at some point in the next year or so. For now, I (college graduate, former military officer) am working full-time in a professional job - but we don't use any of my salary for living expenses; it all goes into savings. The goal is for me to be able to come home once baby is here with a seamless financial transition. And, in the mean time, we get a good nest egg built. We may not be living in a great house, or going out to expensive restaurants all the time, or buying lots of goodies, but we're preparing for what we belive is best for our family.

working mothers
Some say men have always been able to be involved in creative, self-actualizing work while women are trapped in the 'traditional' woman's work in the home. "Creative work", in the minds of some, does not include homemaking and mothering. Why not? And, who is going to do the homemaking and mothering, if the mothers do not? Women often feel confused and frustrated in their jobs as mother,and struggle with fulfillment. But, if homemaking and mothering are the tasks that are before them at the moment, it is a precious gift to the family to joyfully 'offer up' those tasks, and they will find they can be truly 'creative' and fulfilling.

RxLady
I don't know any stay at home moms who don't think they should be educated/marketable. I think it's a difference of attitude. I continually seek to improve myself, not because I think that eventually my husband will cheat on me and I'll need to provide for myself. Rather, an intelligent wife is a better helpmate to her husband. Everything I do is to make myself a more valuable spouse to my husband, mother to my children, and servant to my Savior.
There are plenty of educated career women who would not have any idea how to go into "crisis budget mode", but living for 20+ years with a single continual paycheck has left me well educated in this area and we have successfully weathered 2 layoffs during our marriage. I have only 8 more years until I will be done with child rearing and if I so choose I can go out get a job and instantly give our family a huge pay increase.

Really?
What a thoroughly gratuitous, female- chauvinistic article. So marriage is all about focusing on the security of the FEMALE and allowing her the option of exiting & returning to the workforce at her discretion? Having the option to stay at home and raise your children is a PRIVILEGE not accorded to the disposal, ambulatory wallet, i.e., the American male. In my case I earn a six-figure salary in addition to doing all of the male & female domestic chores endemic to being a “Doctor’s Wife.” My wife, like most women, is quite old-fashioned when it comes to dealing w/ the prospect of being the “sole bread winner.” “Real men” aren't financially supported by women. Fact: half of all female Harvard MBAs are out of work force within 10 years- they found another MBA that was willing to support them. Women are very liberated when the situation benefits them but quite old fashioned when comes to who should stay at home and who should break their back in a job supporting both of them.

WRT “opting out” of the work force, most women, unlike my wife, never position themselves to have real jobs that generate enough income to support themselves, a spouse & children. Given the opportunity most still don’t apply to the “analytically-challenging” schools, e.g., Engineering, Hard Sciences, etc. Most women still enjoy the low-paying “fun” Soft-Science majors (i.e., women’s studies, psychology, sociology, education, etc.) because they assume that some dumb male will eventually support them financially. Additionally, most medical specialists are still men because women are not willing to make the personal sacrifices necessary to become specialists. I know, my wife is an “Internist” who refused to train for a sub-specialty.

WRT No- Fault Divorce: women apply for 80% of all divorces while utilizing children as financial assets IOT leverage the largest amount of de facto Alimony: i.e., child support. Additionally 50% of all married women commit adultery which in turn results in 1%-25% (depending on ethnic/socio-economic background) of women committing paternity fraud and forcing their husbands to pay for some else’s children. Also mothers commit 70% of all child abuse given their near monopoly WRT child custody.

Do you ever notice that it is always a woman that states that it is a “man’s worlds.” Feminists, like children, see the “perks” without the associated responsibilities. They see a “Patriarchy” w/o acknowledging the power of the traditional domestic “matriarchy.” They see the female as “Goddess” but not likewise as the “Devil.” They talk ad nauseum about the “glass ceiling” w/o acknowledging the men tied to the “glass cellar”, e.g., men still dominate the 20 most dangerous, low-paying professions & suffer 95% of all workplace-related deaths & injuries. They are pathetic, petulant, pedantic women-children & if they aren’t careful, the ADULTS with get tired of doing all the heavy lifting and allow the Bogymen to come in and put all of the women of this country in Burkas.

KristinJ
I applaud you. I teach budgeting and it is so sad to see women who would like to stay home but have trapped themselves into a 2 income lifestyle. This is something I hammer home to my daughters. Even though they will be college educated , they should live on one income even if they have 2 when they are first married. This way when they have a baby they can freely choose to stay home or not. This is the freedom of choice that feminists never talk about.

BASH 'EM, MEGAN!
IF cleaning the dishes is beneath women's dignity, is must also be beneath everyone's dignity.
So, the gvmnt will have to buy a dishwasher for every household and fine people if they do not use it.

PROBLEM SOLVED, BIGGOV WAY!! :)

Demosthenes - excellent!!!--> "Feminists, like children, see the “perks” without the associated responsibilities."

Abovethesun: Really?
Why not? And, who is going to do the homemaking and mothering, if the mothers do not?

The Husband, if he is an ADULT. But then most of the ADULTS with whom I interact happen to be MEN. Quite a few ADULTS in my experience have assumed a Lion's share of tradional "female chores", but I have yet to meet a women who was ADULT enough to assume any of the dirty, technically challenging traditional "male chores": electrician, crawl space tech, computer tech, plummer, painter, tile-installer, carpenter, stone mason, gutter technician, brick layer, etc. Probably because the shadow Matriarchy is busy invaliding the efforts of husbands within contemprary marriages

momof5girls: Big surprise
"I teach budgeting and it is so sad to see women who would like to stay home but have trapped themselves into a 2 income lifestyle."

Big surpise. Despite the fact that only 60% women work outside the homes, women control/spend 80% of the family income. Who is the peon & who runs the household? In most cases wives drive families in bankruptcy. Plus, there's the matter of a progressive income tax (majority of income tax payers are MEN) that has to finance the “responsibility-optional” lifestyles of women-children: welfare, earned income tax credit, etc. So men remain peons to their wives & the welfare state.

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momof5girls-

My mother (also a college educated woman who worked a professional job before staying home with kids) taught me the same lessons. Trust me, your daughters see the example you set as well as what you say, and it makes a difference!

Demosthense -

You have a very sad perspective on women's willingness and ability to work and sacrifice for a husband and family, and it makes me think you don't know many stay-at-home homemakers who really take that calling seriously (and I do believe it's a calling). I hope you have the opportunity at some point to see what a marriage and family can look like if each partner is passionate and committed to their roles.

KristinJ: Really?
"You have a very sad perspective on women's willingness and ability to work and sacrifice for a husband and family, and it makes me think you don't know many stay-at-home homemakers who really take that calling seriously (and I do believe it's a calling). I hope you have the opportunity at some point to see what a marriage and family can look like if each partner is passionate and committed to their roles."

DO you often replace rational discourse w/ female shaming language in the form of some banal, gratuitous assertion? You have a sad, sad perspective thinking that your own sense of “ENTITLEMENT” grants some kind of esotoric insight in the nature of relationships. Staying at home is a “PRIVILIGE” not extended to the expendable ambulatory wallet: the American MALE. Likewise, not all women are capable of “nuturing”- I had to rise to the challenge in my own particular case. I am quite passionate WRT raising my children properly. Having surrounded myself w/ quality men like myself, I see them doing the same thing. One recently lost his job. His wife, a nurse, refused to work full time. Her sense of ENTITLEMENT kicked in and they almost declared Bankruptcy. Her solution? She belittled his manhood & threatened him w/ divorce for six months until he found a job that would sustain her lifestyle, all while essentially raising his daughter himself. I’m sorry if my line of reasoning shatters your deeply held belief WRT a innate female “calling.” But then again it conforms to many Uber-female myths:
(a) Women think/lead from an “other-centered” perspective.
(b) The presence of women raises the standards of ethical behavior and lowers corruption
(b) Women have a capacity for understanding and compassion which a man structurally does not have.
You have my sympathies if you can’t accept the partial validity of a contrary viewpoint.


get the cause and effect right
Bashing feminists for advocating that women work outside the home is the pot calling the kettle black. Conservatives are just as aggressive in trying to convince women to abandon careers and stay home full time.

On the divorce statistics, Basham implies that having a single income makes a marriage stronger. I would argue that a single income traps women in more bad marriages that they would otherwise get out of if they had their own income. Of course, the conservative mantra is that a bad marriage is better than no marriage, but I'll save comments on that for a Maggie Gallagher column.

Conservative social columnists, please remember that correlation DOES NOT NECESSARILY equal cause-and-effect!

Demosthense
I guess I'm going to have to start praying for you, too. You seem to have the same hurt that Audi has. Perhaps some woman has used you as a meal ticket, but not all women are that way. I don't think my husband feels used. We are both getting what we wanted. I'm getting a husband who loves our family enough to support it and he is getting a wife who loves our family enough to nurture it. End of story.
By the way, let me introduce myself since you don't know any women who have been willing to do any of the dirty work. Part of being my husband's helpmate meant that when we were living in a "fixer-upper" (the only one big enough for our family that we could afford on one income), I had to help him with all the construction jobs. This included helping him carry ten-foot sheets of sheet rock to the third floor of our house and with our daughters' help, holding them in place while he screwed them to the CEILING. That was hard work!! I've also done demolition, insulating, taping/mudding sheetrock, painting, roofing--shall I go on? I've also had to deal with my share of pest elimination - bats in particular. I was willing to do all this because it was what my family needed. That is what mature adults do, so please don't paint all wives with a broad brush. I'm sorry that perhaps yours does not appreciate all you do for her.

Demosthenes - for the record
I'm sorry for your friend and his experience. That type of behavior is not what I (or Ms. Basham) am advocating for in the least.

In regards to my family's decision for me to stay home once we have kids, it was a mutual decision my husband and I reached after discussion and consideration, not something I see as an entitlement. He takes his role as provider for our family very seriously, and I consider my role as help-meet, homemaker, mother and wife just as important. It's not an excuse not to work, it's a decision to make my vocation my family, and to choose to be able to be a better partner to my husband in his career. It's what we BOTH believe will be best for us. We try to discuss (through "rational discourse," if you will) major decisions together and agree on the path we'll take.

momof5girls
Just as a sidenote, thanks for all your posts. I really appreciate seeing what you have to say, and especially the compassion and kindness with which you say it. Thanks.

Planning and Spending
KristinJ writes: My husband and I are planning on having a baby at some point in the next year or so. For now, I (college graduate, former military officer) am working full-time in a professional job - but we don't use any of my salary for living expenses; it all goes into savings.

I'm about a decade ahead of you, Kristin (oldest is 12 -- yikes, when did that happen?), and that's what we did. It worked out very well. We've tapped into the nest egg when unexpected expenses have arisen (i.e., the new sewer line), and yet, the nest egg is now several times larger than it was 12 years ago.

If there is anything that will make me see red, it's when someone says, "You're lucky to be able to stay home" -- as if staying home is something that just happens. I can't help but wonder how many of the women in Bennett's book would have been significantly better off if they had worked instead of staying home. How many of them never managed to accumulate many assets, never seriously planned for the future, or were clueless as to what was happening financially in the household? That attitude toward money isn't something that would have been remedied by a second income.

Being a SUCCESSFUL stay-at-home-parent requires planning, deliberation. I'm not joking when I say my husband's job is to bring in the money and mine is to keep it from going out. People who can't control their spending, who don't take life seriously enough to plan for the future, will probably never accumulate significant assets whether their annual income is 30K or 300K.

Things that make you go hmmmm.....
GoodOnPaper writes: I would argue that a single income traps women in more bad marriages that they would otherwise get out of if they had their own income.

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So you pave the road to happiness by preparing for a divorce? For some reason my personal experience defies that that "logic".

Virginia Lady
Amen! I couldn't have said it better. A business associate of my husband once told him that she wasn't as lucky as I was to stay home with her children. She's right, I suppose; I was lucky that we didn't have a boat payment, pool payment, new wardrobe payment, and vacation on credit payment. We were also lucky that we got to eat at home every night rather than eat out four to five times a week!!! Makes me laugh!!!

How dare she...
imply that I can not take care of myself without a man around to help me! Does she have a clue how much she has offended me as well as my choosen profession? I keep the books in my house. **I'm much more worried about how my husband would make it without me than the other way around.** I keep my house in order, do the bulk of raising the children, handle all financial matters in our household, select all the clothing that is purchased, cook or arrange for every meal that we eat, supervise the children's education as well as their social life. I could go on and on. Who will do those things if something happens to me?

I'm a SAHM with an MA
Hey, momof5girls, you sound like a great person! (May I ask where you live? You also sound LDS.)

Others have made good comments here, too.

Demosthenes, I agree with you in the way that yes, I think the more severe feminists DO throw their weight around and act like everything is owed to them, that they are above criticism and that men should be their slaves or go away. Or like your wife, they stick to a version of old fashioned ideas to excuse laziness. Sadly, many women abuse their role just as some men do, period. PEOPLE have flaws, period.

Men and women should both do their best to be prepared, educated, practical. They are a team, and often the team works best (there ARE exceptions) when mommy is home with the children and daddy out slaughtering wild beasts for supper.

I have a post-grad degree, many useful skills, and was making dang good NYC money before getting pregnant. But nothing can compare to the blessing of being home with my babies. Barf, poopy, no sleep... still better than the thankless office.

And I admire my husband for taking care of us. Sure, he'd love to be home, too. I am very privileged to be the mommy. But he feels best doing the traditional man thing and he loves us unselfishly.

AudiR10, I've seen you on some of these blogs. So am I correct to assume that you are a bitter ex-Mormon who felt betrayed by men who abused you and that right now you are single with no children? I may be wrong, but it seems you've been through some bad crap. Yes, abuse, whether by insincere men you've dated or men in positions of authority who use that power to harm you is deplorable. I really feel for women/men who have been abused and victimized and hope you haven't been through the worst kinds.

I've suffered some crap, too. And maybe I was lucky to end up with a nice guy willing to start a family with me. Sure, I was mid-30s by then, but it happened. We have our tiffs, but we work through. I AM very blessed to be a mother -- many women can't physically have children and it often breaks their hearts. They'd LOVE more than anything to sacrifice all for a sweet baby of their own. Adoption ain't easy, either.

As far as a mother staying home, sitting around watching TV and eating candy... Obviously you have no personal experience or you'd realize that a mother's job is 24/7, no weekends off, no sleep when you want it. Sure, I surf some blogs, but I'm going back and forth with my toddler, sometimes taking 3 hours to finish a comment.

I'm pregnant, sick, barfy and do my best to keep the house in order. But I have no regrets, only a feeling that I am blessed more than I deserve. And heck, if in need, I've always got these nice Relief Society sisters bending over backwards to help me or anyone else.

And since I grew up with a religious background that promotes chastity before marriage and preparing for the future, I was lucky enough to NOT make bad choices, like having a baby out of wedlock and having to struggle as a single mother. If a woman is smart, she won't have to face perils unprepared. She can seek out good men as life partners, not just the ones who are good in bed but bad everywhere else.

BTW, as a life-long Mormon, I've never heard about this "Unchosen" women thing you mentioned on another article. Is that from anti literature? Must be, 'cuz I ain't no ignernt redneck.

liz
I should have said OR sit in front of the teevee etc. and not AND. I know from experience that stay at home mothers do not, unless they have household help, have time to sit on the potty without interruption.

I do, in fact, have a family -- two boys aged 24 and 21. The older one is a high school dropout with an extremely good job, a girl friend any mother would be proud of, and has just closed on his first house. The younger one is on full scholarship in Physics and Math at Georgia Tech. I have nothing of which to be ashamed.

My comments on the necessity for women to prepare for the day when they will be in charge are not meant to denigrate men. "Life Insurance" only covers needs when the man dies, and you'd be surprised to find that a very large number of young families do not have any life insurance because (1) they're young and (2) they're never going to die. A friend of mine had finally persuaded her husband (aged 29) to speak to an insurance broker but he would not sign the papers "because we need the money for other things." The next week he was diagnosed with inoperable pancreatic cancer and within a month he was dead. And I bet you can't name me one single young couple with small children who has ANY disability insurance on the stay at home Mom. Because of course she's YOUNG, and therefore bulletproof. She will never be in a car accident, never be crossing the street and run over by a hit and run driver with no insurance, never be diagnosed with cancer, never have a hurricane come through her town and bury her in the ruins of her house, never fall off a stepladder and break her pelvis...nope, ain't gonna happen to her. She don't need no steenkeng insurance! (And by the way, does she have any life insurance? Doubt it. Because of course she's never going to die, and if she does, well, he'll just go right out and get another wife and mother for his kids the next day and it won't cost him a thing.)

There is an old Indian proverb that says "Trust in God, but paddle your canoe." That is all I am suggesting.

And to those men who have admitted above that a wife who can care for herself and the family if God strikes you dead are a fatal threat to your teeny weeny little egoes....I hope when your wife is standing by the side of the road while the Jaws of Life extract what's left of you from a car accident, she appreciates that attitude. When she's dragging the kids from welfare office to the Salvation Army food bank, I am sure she'll thank you for insisting that she not be able to care for the family in your absence, lest you hold your breath and die.

One More Thing... esp. for Rixie
Yeah, I totally believe you! I know a LOT of extremely capable and talented women. I know women who do it all, who are smart and don't need anyone to take care of them.

I don't think that choosing to stay home to raise your own children and appreciate a husband who works to allow you to do so necessarily implies that a woman is helpless.

Ask a lot of wives/mothers -- it would often be easier to do various chores or duties themselves! Men ain't perfect at everything either, some are dumb or lazy. But many are not.

Yeah, I had a lot of freedom and money before joining up with a husband. I could do anything for myself, but it's nice to share life's burdens with a man who cares and does his best, whether or not imperfectly.

Accepting help is not always the same as needing help. Sometimes it's a learning experience for them, a chance to let the other person learn how to serve or use new skills.

For me, the bottom line is this:

I don't want anyone else to raise my children. And when allowed the privilege to raise them myself 24/7 while my husband pays the bills, I WILL NOT COMPLAIN because I know it is a blessing and a duty of great value and reward.

Glad to know others have done same
I'm so glad to know others have done what my parents did 57 years ago and my husband and I did 24 years ago. We lived on one income and saved the other. We used the savings for a down payment on our house. (I've suggested this idea to young people getting married, but don't think any have taken this advice- but my girls say they will/they are 17 and 20.)

We agreed BEFORE we got married that I would get to stay home and take care of our family (he takes care of our family by earning a living). I'm sure many people think my husband makes a lot of money but he never has - we learned from my parents to budget and save and shop sales. I AM SO THANKFUL I got to be at home w/our girls. They are great kids and I have enjoyed being their mom.

My kids come first!
I have a B.S. degree and I taught for nearly 10 years in the public school system. After delivering my first (of 2) sons, the choice was simple for me and my HUSBAND. Staying at home w/ them was the only option that made sense. I did not give birth to them only to pass the responsibility on to a minimum wage daycare worker who's moral and values can't be guaranteed. (By the way, I also HOMESCHOOL them!!!) Am I a traitor for wanting the best for my children and putting their needs first?

My boys are now 8 and 6. They noticed a daycare center the other day. I was proud that they were saddened at the idea of such a facility. They could not grasp the concept of me not being in their lives full-time. Staying at home w/ my sons is the best choice I've ever made. They are my treasures!!!

Ladies
Momof5girls, Virginia Lady, SquiddyPopPerkyJean, Cynthia, and rightwingmom:

Thank you for setting the example! My husband and I are both so glad there are people who have done this before and taken the time to teach us; we know it will make a difference for our kids. You're all making an impact.

By the way, I'm also the product of a homeschooling, stay-at-home mom... and passionate advocate of those choices and that lifestyle.

Squiddy
Feel free to ask whatever...
I'm a transplanted New Englander that now lives in the Midwest. We looked at the opportunity of a layoff (company moved overseas) to pack our bags and try something different. I was getting tired of the winters and the liberal ideology that was taking over the "Live Free or Die" attitude I grew up with. No longer do people seem to want to live freely (to also live with the consequences of free choices) but want the government to take care of them. No, I'm not LDS, though I'm sure we share many of the same values. I'm just a woman raised Catholic that met Jesus in a very real way at age 27. I consider myself non-demonimational since I go where Christ leads me in the body of Christ. I've lived several places, so have served Christ in an Assembly of God church, Christian Missionary Alliance church and now a Baptist church.
It is wonderful to know that so many intelligent women are like-minded, though different, when it comes to serving their families.

Blessings
Staying at home is such a blessing. I am also born again. The freedom that comes w/ surrendering to my Savior and my husband (who loves me and our children as Christ loved the church and gave His live for it) prevents any negative feminist propoganda from ruining a perfect plan. When your live is spiritually focused, there is no room for bitterness or regret. There is a peace in our home that only comes from above. We're not perfect, just forgiven. (Christian women have it the best!)

oops
Gave his "life" not "live."

Third way?
Interesting article; interesting statistics.

I think that maybe the alimony and child support laws are less generous in the USA than here in Canada, because it is the working man who is taking the financial risks if he is the sole breadwinner and the wife is a stay-at-home mother. If his wife leaves him, she usually takes the kids and he has to fork over half his paycheck to her. This is particularly so if the marriage is over, say, 10 years and the woman has no marketable job skills.

It seems that that most, if not all two-income households are such because the woman has to work, rather than because she wants to work. If the woman did not enter the workforce out of necessity, she probably stays there because the couple is "leveraging" themselves as the article puts it; the couple takes on on-going financial obligations like a bigger mortgage rather than saving the extra income as a cushion.

What also appears to be the case is that two-income households have both partners working full-time, implying that the kids are being taken care of by daycare workers or nannies or whathaveyou. I haven't read about any studies of couples who both work half-time (like three days per week) and then share the child care duties. The advantage of this is that the children are being raised by their parents and not strangers, in the event that something happens one or both can increase their hours to maintain the cashflow, and in the event of a divorce both have job skills and neither can lay claim to the title of primary caregiver so there will probably be shared custody of the children and no alimony paid. The downside is that it is hideously inefficient in economic terms.

Blaw Blaw
Two part-time jobs is an interesting concept. Except that there are usually no benifits w/ that set-up. (i.e. health insurance, 401K, etc.)

I was encouraged by my mom to get a degree before having children. It was her position that I would always have it to fall back on.

I have never regretted my degree, waiting to have children or staying at home w/ them.I can return to the workforce once my primary job (raising our children) is complete.

So Much Wrong Hard to Answer
Audi, Exclude the big causes for divorce for a moment, like adultry, abandonment physical abuse, substance abuse, etc. If one of those isn't present (and my list was not intended to be comprehensive) and you still stand by your conviction that HE WAS DOING SOMETHING, then everyone, man and woman is guilty and everyone should divorce everyone, because people argue, people leave the toilet seat in the wrong position, people are cold, and sometimes mean, people get fat or skinny, people don't do their chores...whatever, its silly to use any of that human flaw stuff to justify either a man or woman unilaterally destroying families.
But, there is a study from Virginia that actually dug into the bureid causes for the "no-fault" divorce filings that you and so many women will claim when this 2/3 filing by women thing comes up. 6% of the cases had a buried cause, grounds as it were, the rest were pure old "we grew apart....I had to find myself...blah blah blah" Pick a numner audi, 10%, 15% of the 2/3, its STILL women filing at far greater pace than men...why?, because they can...its that simple.

the point of the article when it mentioned divorce was that women neednt work OUT OF FEAR of the myth of the abundance of men running away with the secretary, getting a Corvette and wearing so many gold chains it looks like a Mr. T starter kit.

No one started with an allegation that its all womens fault. It happens to be statistical fact, not an allegation. that its more than 2/3 womens fault.

Combine the 2/3 number with the men, however small you believe the number to be, that actually have grounds themselves for filing, like wife being unfaithful (the horror, could never happen to the sugar and spice) and the number of divorces accounted for by women is wildly more then those by men. In the church it has been shown that women file closer to 80% of no-fault divorces, mainly because in addition to family law, they have advocates in all kinds of womens groups for support.

Scream, gnash teeth, put fingers in ears and go la la la la, whatever, there simply is no wat way to refute it.

I worked for a daycare in the eighties
when my children were young. I wanted to raise them and still earn extra money.It worked out quite well for my children, however I confess to wondering why did so many of the parents even had children,their total involvement was limited tucking them in to bed at night and shopping with them on weekends.
Alot of the kids were quite spoiled, manipulation experts, and angry at their parents.

Goddie4LT
Perhaps that is why I'm against daycare. I worked in one when my first daughter was born. I thought it would be the perfect situation. I wasn't there 6 months before I realized that I didn't want my daughter raised in one. No matter how good the daycare is, the vast majority of workers don't LOVE your children.

My thoughts
I am a highly educated, relatively highly paid married mother of 3. I have the "best" of both worlds in a sense that I work from home half days, plus have a nanny.
My oldest was in daycare for a while and let me just say that I will NEVER do it again. Aside from the crazy environment, I saw many "career" woman literally sacrificing their kids at the alter of materialism. Why can I say that? Because one boy in my son's class (the kids were all between 18 and 24 months old) was in daycare ELEVEN and a HALF hours a day, every day!!!!
He was in a two parent household. Sorry - something in wrong with that picture. He had been on that schedule since he was six weeks old - and it showed!
Audi - I understand wanting to make sure you and your kids won't starve if something goes wrong in a marriage - however is "saving for a rainy day" is causing you to miss out on the life of your kids today - something is terribly wrong.
I am also doing everything I can to be away from my kids as little as possible and plan on leaving the traditional workforce soon as we are going to homeschool. Yes, even us mom's with PhD's want to put our kids first.
Another point missed is that most SAHM that I know aren't income free. Many run small homebased businesses, consult, etc. So, it doesn't have to be all or nothing.
Finally - if I had to constantly wonder if my husband was going to run out on me and the kids every minute - I would know I had married the wrong person. I don't live in constant fear of my husband not coming home one day, just like my kids don't live in fear that I may not come home one day. That isn't being a family.
But really folks, many educated/skilled woman that choose family first are not ignorant deer at the mercy of a borish man who tugs them around on a leash. In fact, being a SAHM has allowed many women that i know to pursue the passions they thought they could never pursue and bring in a good amount of money doing it (on former ER nurse is now pursuing her passion of photography and doing very well - without having to sacrifice one minute of time with her two children; another is now an accomplished author - both of which probably wouldn't have gone after their true goal if they were scared of being left by their husbands and stuck with a 9 to 5 and pushed their kids into daycare all day).
I love that I am only away from my kids 4 hours a day (really 6, but they are napping for 2 of those hours), but I also look forward to being home full time. And being home doesn't mean I won't be contributing to the household finances or that I have given up on being the unique person God created me to be as well.
I really hate the SAHM/WM debate because it is so limited in scope. There are plenty of options.

Audir10: Really?
“And why do they initiate those divorces? BECAUSE OF SOMETHING THE MEN ARE DOING. Or sometimes not doing, like not holding a job, not bringing home the paycheque, not paying their taxes, or not being faithful to their wives. “

More misandry from the angry harridan ensconced in her “People’s Republic of Canadian” cloister: this concludes another test of the female double-standard alert system. The double standard seems to be functioning normally: (a) If a woman ends a marriage she is merely exiting an oppressive environment (b) If man ends a marriage he is a failure because he didn’t make a sufficiently Herculean effort to save the marriage. God know women are never physically/mentally abusive to husbands and/or children. Reality: despite the sexist VAWA women in a relationship are just as violent as men and are more likely than men to abuse their own children. Women hit first but men hit hard. Given their child custody monopoly, women commit 70% of child abuse.

Why are women responsible for 80% of all divorces? Because they CAN. Thanks to chivalrous “secular progressive” male politicians & judges, women have the majority of civil, reproductive, marital, divorce, child-custody, and child-support rights in America. Reality: women are the biggest abusers of “no fault divorces, i.e. 80% of all divorces are filed by women. Why? Gender feminists have taught women-children how to use a paternal legal system & children (= financial assets) to turn their ex-husbands into peons in perpetuity. Why exit a marriage IOT find one’s self without having an ex-husband to pay all of the bills? I have seen several times in my personal experience. I had a female Academy classmate (O-4) who committed adultery with an E-8 and then attempted to commit paternity fraud on her husband. What eventually happened? Nothing: Academy-educated women don’t exploit their authority & engage in group relations w/ subordinates. She later divorced her husband & got the house, kids etc. after making unsubstantiated “domestic violence” charges. Big surprise.

Ironically, women invented “No-Fault” divorce: the whole “No-Fault” Divorce legal movement was started by female trial lawyers (National Association of Women Lawyers) around 1960- they exemplify the predatory entitlement mentality of your average “responsibility-optional” woman child.

Also - sorry if it wasn't clear
But I am also a very happily married woman to a great man!

stbmom
You raise so many excellent points. Women are creative multi-taskers and can find ways to earn money without sacrificing family. After my experiment working at a daycare, I worked for many years as a design assistant to a vintage pillow designer. I went in once a week for a couple hours to consult with her and did the rest of my work at home. It was a wonderfully creative job for me. It worked out well until I had twins, at which point I quit working at home. Now that the girls are older, I work occassionally, as needed.

Women in the Workforce Puts Brakes...
...on American Dream. Working Man Victimized.

"Going back to 1820, per capita gross domestic product in the United States has grown an average of 52 percent for each generation. But since 1973, overall median family income has grown only 0.6 percent per year, a rate that produces a 17 percent increase in the average family’s income for each generation. Thus, unless the rate of economic growth increases, the next generation will experience an improvement in its standard of living that is only one-third as large as the historical average for earlier generations."

Economic Mobility Project, 2007, p. 6

Male Income Trends:

"Beginning with a comparison of men ages 30-39 in 1994 with their fathers’ generation, men ages 30-39 in 1964, we see a small, but fairly insignificant, amount of intergenerational progress. Adjusting for inflation, median income increased by less than $2,000 between 1964 and 1994, from about $31,000 to under $33,000 — a 5 percent increase (0.2 percent per year) during this thirty-year period. The story changes for a younger cohort. Those in their thirties in 2004 had a median income of about $35,000 a year. Men in their fathers’ cohort, those who are now in their sixties, had a median income of about $40,000 when they were the same age in 1974. Indeed, there has been no progress at all for the youngest generation. As a group, they have on average 12 percent less income than their fathers’ generation at the same age. This suggests the up-escalator that has historically ensured that each generation would do better than the last may not be working very well."

Economic Mobility Project, 2007, p. 5

http://economicmobility.com

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118005313993514160.html?mod=todays_us_page_one

Demothenes
I will agree with you about the legal system being slanted toward women. In my opinion, the cheating spouse should not get the kids. Of course, how do you go about proving that a spouse is faithful? I'm not sure what the solution is, but you would do the cause a favor if you would control the anger and bitterness, just a little bit. Perhaps then you would find that many SAHM's would support you in your fight for dad's rights. Just a thought.

Demosthenes
You wrote -- Quite a few ADULTS in my experience have assumed a Lion's share of tradional "female chores", but I have yet to meet a women who was ADULT enough to assume any of the dirty, technically challenging traditional "male chores":

I'm a woman married to a man. You haven't met me yet, but I'm plenty adult enough to assume "dirty and technically challenging 'male' chores." Let's see -- I change my car's oil, mow the lawn, have helped re-roof the house, painted it, I can solder a copper joint so it doesn't leak for 20 years, and I'm the one who knows how to use the computer. I don't do electrical work, but I'm married to an electrician and he has yet to scrub a toilet or shower stall, so I figure we're even. I spent last Saturday on the roof demossing our shingles while my husband cleaned the kitchen. We had clear reasons for this particular division of labor. Last year he was on the roof while I washed windows. So, please let go of your pappa-bear attitude. I find it insulting and unless you want to come shingle my brother's house this summer, you really don't know what I do that would be considered a traditional male chore.

That said, I have been both a stay-at-home mother and a working mother. Both had ups and downs. A friend's husband had a stroke a few years ago (in his early 30s). She had a degree and four children at home. She found out that it takes a long time to get a job when you haven't had one for 10 years and it takes a long time to start making money at that job. After his disability insurance was used up and she'd tapped his life insurance, she ended up filing bankruptcy in order to keep their house and get out from under the copayments for his insured care. She's doing now, but it took about four years to stabilize the family finances, even with insurance in place. That's the downside. On the other hand, I wish occassionally that I could have spent the long hours just being silly with my son that I was able to spend with my daughter. Economic situations intervened however, and I had to go back to work between her birth and his. Having accepted a career job, I decided (along with my husband) that I shouldn't decelerate again, but that we really didn't want to have only one child. Our daughter WANTED to be a sibling and my husband hoped for a boy. We shared the parenting duties to a far greater extent than we did with our daughter and our son spent my workdays at the in-home daycare of an established good friend. In some ways he had a better young childhood than his sister because he had a second "mommy" and children his own age to play with.

I agree that many working women should forego having children because their emphasis is not on the child. A child should not be an ornament in an already crowded life, but should be a central concern, a precious jewel. However, I don't see it as black and white as working mothers are evil and stay-at-home mothers are stupid. There is a gradient involved here and some families do it very well, while others -- well, some people shouldn't have kids even if they are prepared to stay home with them. It's a pretty complex subject and there is no RIGHT answer.

To crucible
Re "Men are better bread-winners and women are better nurturers": you are full of baloney. I know, for example, a couple in their forties in which she is a tenured college professor who has written five books and he is happy as the primary homemaker, nurturer of their young child, and part-time dabbler in a sort-of job. He is a great cook, she is no cook. They are happy. I know another couple in which she makes > $200,000 a year as a banker and he makes $50,000 a year as a schoolteacher; because her job has her traveling about half the time, he is the primary (and very nurturing) parent of their six year-old. I know yet another couple in which she is a corporate attorney and he is a nurse---figure out the income differential yourself.

The feminist movement did some silly things, but one very good thing it did is make it okay for couples to practice role-reversal without being drummed out of the Corps. If both husband and wife are happy and the children thrive, God bless.

Assorted Comments
1) At one point in my life I taught high school for ten years. During that time I consistently found that the most unreasonable parents to deal with were mothers who had never worked outside the home. They were accustomed to running the show at home and expected to exercise the same authority over their children's school although they often operated with a huge and glaring lack of information.

2) To the poster who suggests that volunteer work can adequately teach or maintain job skills, this is very from true. Floating into a workplace one afternoon a week when you are not part of the paid team is just not the same. I can't imagine what kind of work you have in mind. My husband just spent a week on an intensive care unit where I had plenty of time to observe the nurses, whose skills were stunning. What possible volunteer job would hone or maintain those skills? And no hospital could legally permit a volunteer to do what a professional nurse does when on the job---a concern for legal liability would forbid this.

3) To the poster who thinks that life insurance is just as good as job skills for the widow, what nonsense. Suppose a woman is widowed at age fifty when her husband dies suddenly of a heart attack, and suppose she has four children ages 7, 12, 15, and 17. She therefore has four children to educate, a home to maintain for at least ten years until the youngest is of college age, cars to maintain so they can all get around, and herself to maintain for 35 or 40 years, very likely, and with inflation. Tell me, how much life insurance do you think she will need? And what you propose is a form of suttee---dissolution of the wife upon the occasion of the husband's death. She is less likely to suffer from depression and other problems if she makes a new life for herself. And what kind of example would she set for her children to be all her life a dependent?

Interesting article, BUT...
It doesn't square with my experience working in family law for about 9 years. Before that I was a full time at home mom, and then I worked part time around the kids' schedules when the youngest entered school. I've seen all sides of the mommy wars debate, and will not generalize as to what is best for all families. However, I can say emphatically, that although most may "initiate" the divorce action, in most cases they do not "cause" the divorce. And, most often, the women who have been out of the work force for some time to raise the kids do suffer financially, unless they are in a field that is easy to move in and out of fairly easily, such as health care. I have three daughters, and I hope they all get an education and work experience in a field that will allow them to support themselves and the kids if it proves necessary. Although I loved being home with my kids when they were young, I found the tone of this article and some of the posts to be somewhat smug; not all women can realistically do that.

a dependent?
lilly says:
" And what kind of example would she set for her children to be all her life a dependent?"

EXCUSE ME? a dependent? Years ago my husband and I sat down and figured out what it would cost if I were to work outside the home and pay for childcare for our daughter (we now have three kids). It just didn't make sense for the small amount of extra income it would have generated.

But then we sat down and figured out what my "dependent" situation would cost if I were to get paid for the things I did in my home evryday. After adding in for childcare, I was worth about $45,000 a year. This was in 1991.
"Dependent" indeed!

women and hope and fear
Megan Basham is correct that I tried in my book "Get To Work" (out in paperback Tuesday) to encourage women to aspire to a life of complexity, independence and broad social contribution. I said little about the danger of divorce and impoverishment, because I value women too highly to try to SCARE them into working, regardless of what the statistics say or whether the media would rather hear that disempowering message than the message of empowerment that I wrote.
I will say, however, that the description of women, especially their own wives, from the purportedly male commenters on your column would not readily cause me to walk away from MY paycheck.


Hello Again Moms/Women/Demosthenes
Just checking back on comments here and it's nice to see so many bright, capable women who have found happiness in the regular old being-a-mom thing. Several of us seem to have similar religious beliefs, as well. I think that when you believe in God and let him direct your life, He will bring you to what is genuine happiness. At least that's my experience...

Women have everything these days (at least in the US and similar places). They contribute to the world and can do almost anything. These opportunities are great blessings themselves. You can have a career, family, both, whatever.

And when you are also blessed with children and the opportunity to raise them, it is an even bigger privilege. Many women are not able to have babies, but they are still influential and important -- and probably get more sleep!

I believe in also respecting the men in our lives. There ARE great men out there, despite what I was taught in college.

So yeah, there's no need to bash on someone who has made different choices in life.

Hi to Momof5girls, Virginia Lady, KristinJ, Cynthia, rightwingmom and others!

AudiR10, I was mistaken, you DO have children. You seem very interesting, I'll have to check out your blog.

I think some have missed the point
Ms. Bennetts book is interesting to read, not for its paltry contribution to actual data on the questions of economics at hand, but that at least she urges women to really think about their choices and make financial plans. Where both she and Linda Hirshman fall down are their breezy assertions that kids are just A-OK in daycare so women should have no qualms about leaving them there to make sure their careers are not derailed. Bennetts leans heavily on one source to validate that-- a social worker in a day care/ school situation. Of course using such a source fails every test of statistical significance, but it does raise questions. When and how much nonmaternal care is good or OK or just passable. Bennetts herself used a private nanny, a saint from Guyana who loved Bennetts' children as much as she does. Lay aside the snarky comments and think about that. I'm sure Bennetts does love her children but I wonder about a plan for elite women that includes enslaving third world women. I highly doubt that her Guyanese nanny received a solid Manhattan wage of at least $20/hour plus health benefits, paid holidays, pension contributions and the like. More likely, not even her social security was paid. But at least Ms Bennetts got to soldier on in her career as a journalist. She has no trouble believing that a women who would accept such a no-growth-opportunity position as a private nanny might be doing it because she has no other choice, for lack of skills or papers. Does this nanny really LOVE her children. Really? Is that Santa Claus I hear?

My aunt ran a Head Start preschool for many years and after I announced that I was staying home with my children until they started actual school (not the ridiculous "daycare named school" that is so prevalent), she announced emphatically "Good. Little children should be with their mothers." Yes, there are exceptions. Yes, some kids are better with caregivers than their unmaternal mothers. But truly: what could be more natural than children needing and wanting their mothers.
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