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Thursday, June 18, 2009
Matt Towery :: Townhall.com Columnist
Change People Are Starting To No Longer Believe In
by Matt Towery
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It's finally starting to happen. For months, I've irritated many conservatives by telling them that, like it or not, Barack Obama had high approval ratings, and that most Americans were so enamored with the president that there was no use in attacking him yet.

But one thing I was sure of was that eventually the overly liberal House and some of the Senate's most senior Democrats from the Northeast would transform many of Obama's ideas into proposals so bewildering and threatening that many of the independent swing voters who propelled Obama to victory would start to lose confidence in the new details of the "change-you-can-believe-in" program. Sure enough, bit by bit, much of the president's agenda is starting to come apart like a cheap trailer in a tornado.

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Consider healthcare reform. I recall in the Democratic presidential primary debates that candidate Obama suggested a slower pace and perhaps less ambition in trying to put the brake on runaway healthcare costs; slower, at least, than Hillary Clinton's more aggressive "universal healthcare" proposal. At one point Obama said that step one would be to address the medical needs of America's children.

It was only after Obama was elected that his own more aggressive approach started to emerge. And even then the most forceful and comprehensive proposals seemed to surface not in the White House, but in the House and in Edward Kennedy's committee in the Senate. (Most observers believe any bill with a realistic chance to become law will probably come out of another Senate Committee -- Finance.)

Regardless, the Congressional Budget Office says the price of Democratic reform to healthcare would be staggering. Beyond that, more and more Americans appear to be having serious misgivings about healthcare being under the exclusive or predominant control of the same folks that bring you the U.S. Postal Service (which is itself struggling mightily with disorganization and threatened with having to cut services).

Then there's the fight against "climate change." Yes, many have noticed that with much of the northern United States having endured a particularly frosty winter this past year, the term "global warming" is being discarded like last week's magazine.

And yes, the House has again tried to push through a bill to limit carbon emissions by forcing energy producers -- and ultimately consumers -- to pay for costly permits to produce greenhouse gasses, and to limit the market for such permits.

Yet now the whole concept has been watered down. The so-called "cap-and-trade" permits probably won't go into effect for years, and will likely be phased in even then. And there's good reason to believe that there may be enough opposition among some moderate Democrats in the Senate to stall or even kill the legislation outright.

As for another round of stimulus money, you can forget it. Public opinion polls tell us that the federal debt being amassed is scaring people; so much so that polls also say that Americans now trust the clueless, leaderless GOP on economic and fiscal issues more than they do the Democrats.

President Obama himself remains popular. The latest RealClearPolitics average of his approval ratings is holding around 60 percent. But both his approval and disapproval ratings are moving slowly toward the middle.

I believe the president is being weighed down a bit by the over-actions of the Democratic Congress. They seemed to have taken many of his ideas and disappeared with them somewhere way beyond the left-field foul line. And the public has too little attention to always properly distinguish between Obama's and the Congress's words and actions.

Remaining is what may be the most pernicious White House proposal of all -- to tax overseas revenue of corporations as soon as they are recognized in whatever foreign country they may be earned in. This could result in whole corporations moving their headquarters out of the United States. Microsoft has already dropped a hint that it might.

Unfortunately for these companies, this proposal hasn't been widely canvassed in media yet, probably in part because it's complicated and in part because Obama has done an effective job of branding many of these multinational companies as "tax dodgers."

What a cruel irony if most of the Democrats' policy proposals that could potentially retard economic growth were to fall apart this summer, only to have a potentially devastating new tax trip us back into recession because no one understood or cared about the issue enough to combat it.

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Obama was never that great
He is an unattractive mumbler. All of his popularity was a function of the media. All of it. Bush was a better speaker, which is not necessarily saying much, but there it is. And, his bloopers were funnier too.

Interesting

"This could result in whole corporations moving their headquarters out of the United States. Microsoft has already dropped a hint that it might."


In which case what's happening right now here in Commiefornia would transpire on the national level: companies leaving and taking with them their jobs, taxes, everything.

Leaving behind nothing but a welfare state with no funding.



Well...
The simple fact of the matter is that socialism does not work, so... Even if you lose the election due to utter and complete political stupidity and incompetence, socialism does not work.

I wonder how hard conservatives will have to work to lose the next election cycle?

I don't
think it will be much longer before the elected
majority will start CYA, and the closer we get to 2010, the further they will move away from Barry Soetoro. It's human nature, if these
political hacks start seeing that the American people are really angry, they will start worrying about their own jobs..and the clueless GOP had better get a heads up because we are equally angry with them.
Right now, much as I like a few, and that's very few members of the GOP, I'm in the mood to throw all the bums out.

2010--2010--2010--2010
Cannot come soon enought to rid us of these:

LYING, CHEATING, DOGS!

ROWDY BOOTS

All I can say is, Thank god the country
didn't elect John McCain and that minor-league (laughingstock?) Sarah Palin.

This country really dodged a bullet there. We'd have been deep in a dark Depression right now with panic in the streets.


Yoiu're right, Will

Because McCain is just as bad as Obambi -- he's even said he thinks Obambi's doing a good job -- and this way the real blame for the collapse can be clearly laid at the feet of liberalism, without the obfuscation of having a GOPer "moderate" in the White House.


The Dem/libs own it ALL, win, lose or draw.

And pard, there's no WAY this "free lunch" approach to governance is gonna work.

As I wrote above, just look at how Commiefornia's coming apart at the seams.

No worries...
Obama-lama-ding-dong is Jimmy Carter 2.0. All the 20 and 30-somethings just have to learn the hard way. Just like the Carter years, we're most likely going to see interest rates and inflation in the double digits approaching 20%, persistently high unemployment of +10%, and a limp-wristed, do-nothing foreign policy. All they know about Carter is that he won the Noble Peace prize and builds houses for Habit Humanity. "He was the best-est president ever... " they say. They weren't even ALIVE at the time. All they know is the media dis-information. Bottom line? Most of the time you can tell people something, but it just doesn't register through the fog. Unfortunately, they have to live it themselves and realize the utter cluelessness of this administration. Should we be surprised? Obama has never run a hot dog stand in his life, but miracleously he has all the answers to our "problems".

Economic Geniuses

Actually the reality is neither Barack Obama or John McCain are economic geniuses. McCain taking a more conservative approach would more likely than not have us in a better condition today. If he listened to Liberals like Bush did then we would be in the same situation.

Liberals just don't understand how to create real jobs. How to control spending, How to increase Revenues without rasing taxes.

The only one running for high office who actually had any experience balancing a budget was Sarah Palin. The only one that actually saw first hand how high taxes hurts employment was Sarah Palin. The only one who saw first hand how Federal mandates waste money was Sarah Palin.

Exactly, "Useful Idiots"

And what was McCain's history as far as taking sides?

Mr. "Reach-Across-The-Aisle" himself. His buds are Kerry, Feingold, Lieberman, and all the other libs. He DESPISES conservatives, and makes no bones about it.

He had to "suspend" his campaign and skydive into DC to "save" the original porkfest "bailout".

I fully stand behind my earlier comment.


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will
Location: CA
Reply # 4
Date: Jun 18, 2009 - 12:52 AM EST All I can say is, Thank god...

This country really dodged a bullet there. We'd have been deep in a dark Depression right now with panic in the streets."

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And the WINNER is will of CA.

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More Bush Bashing Conservative Suicide
The original Bush bailout was conducted on the firm believe by many throughout the financial sector that the lack of liquidity at that crucial time could crash the entire world economy very suddenly and disastrously.

This new bailout was pushed through without even so much as being read, much less discussed by experts so that they could come to a conclusion.

The idea Bush was a liberal is ludicrous, and each and every day the GOP continues to lap up the hypocritical anti-Bush rhetoric SPECIFICALLY SPAWNED BY THE LEFT TO DISCREDIT THIS PARTY, the longer it is going to take to recover.

Folks, you better wake up. A house divided cannot stand, and that is exactly what the Republicans are. If Bush or McCain was not your ideal candidate, fine. But you had best stop the senseless MSM-like Bush bashing rhetoric, because that was a two term president who added to the congressional lead the Republicans had UNTIL THE ABANDONED HIM, which led directly to Republican losses in the second half of his second term.

And why do conservatives dislike Bush? Because he supported immigration reform that was not self destructive, and they found it expedient to abandon him during the less popular phase of a war that, guess what OBAMA IS NOT RUSHING TO GET US OUT OF.

Idiooooooots!

It's absolutely amazing to watch conservatives implode like this.

We still believe in change
with over a 60% approval rating, majority think country is in the right direction, most want universal health care, most thing Obama is helping the economy, only the 28% who disagree on everything thinks otherwise.

War
Has anyone besides me noted the extreme LACK of the constant anti-war rhetoric since Obama took over?

That's right, folks. That's the sound of your conservative leadership's having been right, but your conservative party being chickenshit and abandoning ship in the MIDDLE OF A WAR.

At what point did any of you honestly believe we were LOSING a war where we had absolutely no real opposition. Viet Nam? If we had occupied the whole of Viet Nam, and began reconstruction, then yeah, you could say it was like Viet Nam, but oh.. oh... guess what...

WE OBLITERATED IRAQ'S ARMY IN A MATTER OF WEEKS.

Gullible, gullible, gullible.

I guess to a large extent I should blame McClellan. It became clear pretty quickly that he was no Ari Fleischer. I think his post administration betrayal pretty much says it all. But the bottom line is, even as important as his lack of charisma at a crucial time may have been, the cowardice of the Republican party during the second half of Bush's second term was really inexcusable.

Also, and I will say this until some of you start to hear it, the Republican party needs to revamp its attitude and rhetoric regarding the working class. You simply cannot win elections making people feel like you believe they deserve to starve in the dark.

Tyler
Of course people think things are grand. That's the entire point of owning the media. This same sort of media blitz, albeit lower tech, was a huge part of the plan leading up to the Revolutionary war.

Repeat a lie enough times, people believe it. Republicans are sitting on their thumbs.

"I don't want to be a product of my environment. I want my environment to be a product of me."

Libs talk polls and personalities because their policies are atrocious. Carter was even more popular than Obama when he was elected, if anyone can believe that.

Keep celebrating. That which does not work, simply does not work.

Matt Towrey:
It is a little early to be saying that Obama's
agenda is falling apart like a cheap trailer
in a tornado - make that FAR TOO EARLY.

However, it is true that people have very short
memories. I thought that there was one reason
why I did not want this recession over quickly
and that was because we will forget the lesson
before we ever learn it.

There was virtually no credible economist that
was not predicting a depression or a near
depression before we would begin to see the
light of day. Maybe it is too early to tell,
but it seems at this point that Obama and gang
may have actually averted this disaster.

Yes, I know, IT IS too early to tell. But I
can assure you that if it is averted, the
right will never give Obama the credit.

ShaneRoach
"That which does not work, simply does not work. "

That is quite the misstatement. Some people
can make things work that others cannot.

If anyone can make the economy work, it will be
Obama.

Tammy
Oh my god thanks for the laugh. Not sure whether its more funny that this Kenyan child king is claiming to know the first thing about economics, or that you are dumb enough to support him.

Hmm let me just try, I'll feel guilty if I don't:

HE HAS NOT RUN ANYTHING IN HIS LIFE. HE IS NOT QUALIFIED TO RUN A HOTDOG STAND. HE WOULD BLAME IT ALL ON BUSH THE SECOND THINGS STARTED GOING BAD.

ShaneRoach
I agree with you on some things, disagree on others.

For instance, lets talk GWB and the war. Any President who sends our troops to fight a war overseas better be prepared to fight the Domestic opponents of the war.

I backed GWB, and I first realized I made a mistake when the WMD issue (or lack thereof) came to the forefront. Not because there were no WMD, but because the opposition used the issue to gain momentum for their attacks on his policy, AND HE DID NOTHING TO FIGHT THEM!

He had the DEMS heads on a platter on this issue, and chose, whatever the reason, to ignore their attacks. This emboldened them, and allowed them to undercut the war effort.

Just look at what's happened recently with the torture and gitmo issues. The DEMS were bloviating about this, denying that the knew about it, etc. And they were dominating the news.

Cheney comes along, and fires a few salvos in their direction, and they start scurrying around like cockroaches in the kitchen when the lights are turned on.

Imagine how the debate could have changed if GWB took them head on.

Even Whoopi "cushion" Goldberg
Ranted that "I didn't vote for THIS!". Too bad she forgot THAT while insulting Glen Beck on the View. Between her and Orca Winfrey those are two walking disasters in media today.

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!

Congress is more liberal than Obama?
After marinating in Marxist theory for virtually all of his life, Obama distinguished himself as the most liberal member of the Senate, to the left of the socialist and Kennedy, Boxer, etc.
Obama is letting congress set the policy specifics because he knows it will be plenty liberal, and if he offered something more liberal or more conservative there are pitfalls in either direction.

You are making him sound more reasonable than congress - he is not.

Greg Buls
Whittier, CA

AND ALL THE WHILE
The majority of Americans, dead or alive. voted for 'Change' thinking their 'Change' would be from 'Rags' to 'Riches'. Those paying any attention at all, are beginning to realize that the 'Change' they voted for is the elimination of the Freedom of opportunity to pursue 'Riches'. We the People are ALL being 'Changed' from 'Riches' to 'Rags', except for the elite, powerful, wealthy liberal left, now in total control of everything.
So much for being 'equally' destitute and enslaved, becoming 'chattels' of the government through 'eminent domain'.

don't give Barry a break
Please, stop with the "he has good intentions that the wascally liberals in congress are pushing to the left". This guy had the most liberal rating in congress (when he wasn't voting "present" - true sign of a good decisive leader - not). This guy and his behind the curtain buddies want this country to fail so the can push through their NWO. He's an arrogant punk - nothing more.

Bottom line
Barry has been in for 5 months, the D's own congress for 29 months. The bottom line is that the economy is not getting better. There is no end in sight for the growing unemployment. No end in sight for the collapsing dollar. No improvement in sight for our energy import situation, which is also being made more serious by the falling dollar. The voters who voted for Barry because they thought ANYONE would be better than Bush are having second thoughts. Barry's loyal suppoerters say give him time, its too early to judge how good he is. Its also too early to judge how bad he is. Peanut Jimmie was more popular than Barry at every point so far. Of course, Jimmie had the advantage that the unfunded entitlements of social security and medicare were not as visible.
Barry's supporters are not saying Look how great things are now. They say Things will soon be better. Or they say Things would be worse with a conservative in the WH. These are typical liberal pipe-dreams. In 2010 and 2012, most voters will vote on how things are at that time. If my house value, the price of gas, my stock portfolio, employment and interest rates, and the deficit are as good in 2012 as they were in 2005, i'll vote for Barry. Identity voters and knee jerk D's will support Barry no matter what. This is about 35 per cent of the vote. It wasn't enough to re-elect Carter. If we are looking at 12 per cent unemployment, 18 per cent mortgage rates, foreign governments who can't decide whether to laugh or sneer at us, Barry is toast too.

Oncealwaysamarine

I was going to give your epic post at 1:39am the coveted “Funniest post of the day” award…. That is until I read Tammy’s gem at 2:45am “If anyone can make the economy work, it will be obama”

Now THAT is a real knee slapper.
ATTA GIRL Tammy.
Now go drink some more Koolaid.


It needed to happen
Had McCain/Palin won, we would have ended up with the same garbage and criminality that we have now in the legislative branch, but with a weak minded moderate in the white house putting a repub stamp on it. Tarp one is a good example, with bush passing a dem sponsored bad bill. The hateful state media press would have killed him daily, and would have really brought 40 years of dem rule.

As it stands, the country is obviously moving left as a result of a poor education and slanted media. Now they get to have what they have been asking for. After they see the successes of long time dem strongholds like California, Washington DC, Detroit, and New Orleans spread nationwide, they will quickly realize their stupidity. Hopefully.

I have long advocated a voter's test. If you want to be able to guide the government, you should be at least able to pass an immigration or basic constitutional history test. The framers only wanted land owners to be able to vote. The reasoning is that they have a direct interest in what happens since they will be the ones taxed. Once lazy people can vote themselves the largess of the state and subsequently the produce of the productive tax paying class, the republic is lost. That, and people that have never had to fight for liberty will be lax in defense of it.

We are roughly 100 days into the obama/dem rule era, and many are screaming like a mad cat in a trap. By 2010 that cat will be a badger, and by 2012, a grizzly. What is missing here is a Regan type, or any strong conservative leadership to offer a sharply contrasting alternative. That and an objective press. No one wants to step up and let the dem attack dogs and press puppets start looking into his third cousin's daughter's nephew's crack-head daughter three years out.

Corndog
You express my reactions exactly. OncealwaysaMarine is so reserved and logical in his posts i just had to laugh at that let it all hang out job he posted earlier. I think he has finally had it all the way up to here, at least for now. Doubtless tomorrow he will be back to the calm devastating reason which usually characterize his posts.
Tammy and Lilly are always good for a shake of the head and a rueful smile. They are so sincere, i think they actually believe everything they post. It is inevitable they will shift from give Barry a chance, he will save us all, to Barry failed because the rottenracistgreedyoldwhitemen sabotaged him. The historical result of Barry's policies has always been the wealthy folks who are financially flexible profit most. Soros has made a billion dollars since Barry got elected. Its the poor who suffer most in a declining economy. Ironic justice, they are getting exactly what they voted for.

badbassplayer
A nice recapitulation of the general outlook shared by most conservatives here. I voted 3rd party exactly because it seemed to me the current mess was unavoidable. McCain would only continue the Bush lose/lose situation of having conservatism blamed for left wing policy failures. At least now the ball is in Barry's court. His knee-jerk supporters will continue to make excuses, but pocketbook issues will sink him.

Change in Chicago
That is the geographical location of the last previous address of the change-makers. The Messiah imported a stooge by the name of Duncan to be the US Secretary of Education. News on Drudge -- nearly 60% of students failed eighth grade at one Chicago school. The Messiah waived his magic wand and federal employee homos get same benefits and real married people, less medical. This ceremony done with Barney Fwank and Joe Lieberman looking on with hope and change in their eyes. Lieberman -- isn't he a very dear pal of John McShame, the open borders guy?

I think that Matt Towery is a little bit
naive. Obama has an uncanny ability to lay the blame for his most outrageous proposals at the feet of his useful idiots. That would be certain Democrats in congress and his hand-picked scofflaw advisors and cabinet members. These sycophants seem willing to accept whatever attention they can get from the Messiah, whether it's good or bad. He is awfully good at throwing people under the bus, even his own grandmother and his personal pastor for 20 years, Rev. Wright have been his victims. Even his victims cover for him, to wit: "Them Jews won't let him talk to me." Rev. Wright talking about Obama. There is no doubt in my mind that Obama intends evil for this country. By that, I mean, he is intent on payback for all the ills he has been brought up to believe that white America has done to him and his people. This despite the fact that without social programs like affirmative action, Obama would still be on the streets of Chicago playing hoops with his buddies. No, he isn't being misunderstood by the fringe left, he IS the fringe left.

Obama the Liar
I wish more Americans would see through Obama's "I'm the good guy" schtick and realize he is a master manipulator with concrete-set, far-left plans to move this country into socialism. IF history is recorded accurately, he should be portrayed as a megalomaniac narcissist who did everything in his power to manipulate the media, youth, minorities, et al into believing his destructive pack of lies.

"Socialism," according to Ayn Rand..
"is not a movement of the people. It is a movement of the intellectuals, originated, led, and controlled by the intellectuals, carried by them out of their stuffy ivory towers into those bloody fields of practice where they unite with their allies and executors; the thugs." To those of you not familiar with Ayn Rand, she was a famous conservative who wrote this back in 1961 in a book called "The Virtue of Selfishness." I consider her a prophetess. And if you don't believe the MSM think of themselves as intellectuals, you haven't been watching Matt Lowery, Katy Curic, or Chris Matthews lately, to name a few.

High approval ratings
What these high approval raetings show me, if hey are real, is that , America's average IQ
is quite low.

"Beam me up Scotty"

CBS Poll shows
70% do not like owning GM or bailouts.

O personal pop. dropping from 60+ to 56%.

Gallup, AP, and Rasmussen polls in May already showed percentages in the 40s regarding O and the ec.

Call the Sen. on Sotomayor, *health* and *hate crimes*--202-224/225-3121.
Bork Sotomayor--an incompetent Latino woman
Don't buy GM or Chrysler
teapartypaetriots.org to march the 4th

Stupidity
It appears that the liberal wet brains are still in love. These are made up of liberal koolaid drinkers and blacks. Common sense might prevail among some horrified liberals with brains (very few of these, I'm afraid). However, O's black supporters will NEVER abandon him. He is what affirmative action is all about. If you can't make it on your own, some white person will give you everything you need. I talked to one of these supporters and they actually believe that he will improve their lives, give them cars, buy their groceries. Stupid is as stupid does.

ShaneRoach

ShaneRoach muses, "I wonder how hard conservatives will have to work to lose the next election cycle?"

I doubt they'll have to work hard at all. It's not that Republicans say the wrong things, it's that they can't be trusted to keep their word. Republicans blew it big time with their own base and even now, after a crushing defeat and while in the minority in Congress, they're selling their souls to the libs and living under the delusion that they need to be more like liberals.

Liberals don't care that Obama and congress lie to them constantly. They assume he means well, and after all, to a liberal, good intentions mean oh-so-much more than honesty, integrity, competency and transparency.

Republicans will be the out party for a good long time.

It's not too early to d*mn King O
Most recessions last 18 mons. This started in 2007 with the Dem. Cong. It is NOW WORSE.

Yesterday, MySpace announced a 400 layoff, Starbucks will let 1700 go, NJ's unemployment was nearly 10% in May, and over 2,000,000 jobs have been lost since Despot O was elected.

Unemployment should be going up with summer hires, but the US itself is likely to be 10% unemployment by Aug., worse than Carter.

O never led a Cub Scout troop, never was a Taco Bell assistant manager, maybe never had a course in ec., as we can't see his prob. rotten transcripts (Sotomayor brags that she got her college acceptances and grades and positions because she was a pushy Latina--I bet the same halo of incompetence was dropped over the Big O).

Tammy, you and Lilliputian and Halitosis and Marco Polo should all get together and have, like, a Trekkie Convention for spec. effects trolls.

Change in the Wrong Direction
Have we had enough yet; TARP - if we don't do this right now the country will collapse, Wall St, Chrysler and GM bailouts - billions spent and still bankrupcy, another 400 billion spent for this years budget, unemployment is at 9.4%; after the bankrupcies at Chrysler and GM approximately 26 factories will close and about 1000 dealerships will go out of business, I wonder where these folks will go to find a job? Universal health care is being promoted with a cost of somewhere around 1.6 Trillion and everybody still won't be covered. Our foriegn policy is a shambles, we appologized for being who we are and for all the good we have done and we continue to court the 'bullies'. Everyday there is a disaster and the media is DOA on reporting the facts. So, we continue to watch the debacle unfold. Can you imagine the outcry if G. Bush tried to do this stuff?

Obama is Superfly!
Just when his approval ratings begin to slip, Obama figures it out! Read about it at this black conservative's blog http://theblacksphere.net/site/obama-is-superfly/

You will be HOOKED!

Reps. are not selling their souls
in Cong.

Not one Republican House member voted for the *stimulus.*

Only three Rep. Sens. voted for it, and one has gone Dimo.

On the latest Sen. vote, ONLY Susan Collins voted with Dems.

The problem is those *principled* cons. who did not vote in Nov. or voted 3rd party DECIDED they wanted this Cong. mess that we have. A non-Rep. vote was a vote for King Elect O, Schumer, Dodd, Franks, Rangel, et. al.

Third parties NEVER WIN ANYTHING.

In pres. and Cong. elections, the Reps. are already on every ballot in every town, city, county, and state, which is no small matter if you ever tried to get another party on the ballot. You should vote Rep.

You PINCIPLED cons. should get out and run for office yourselves, work for campaigns, and/or lobby DC because otherwise your wisdom is just worth the ether it’s printed on here.

Sen: 202 224/225 3121.
Bork Sotomayor.
Don't buy GM or Chrysler.
teapartypatriots.org for marching the 4th

Barry
Our first affirmative action president. What a hoot. Was Sotomayor making affirmative action decisions for him? Poor firefighters... Instead of calling on the black affirmative action firefighters to study, she kills the hopes of people that really succeeded. Did Barry really graduate from college? Where was he born? It is obvious he has a slave/master persona. Hope he doesn't really believe what the press is telling him. Why did he spend almost a million dollars on lawyers to protect his records from the public.

Trailers
cheap or not can't stand up to a tornado. Maybe all the Dims can follow the yellow brick road and consult with the wizard to get their act together.

Tammy

Tammy claims, "It is a little early to be saying that Obama's agenda is falling apart like a cheap trailer in a tornado - make that FAR TOO EARLY."

Tammy, you may not realize this, but math doesn't lie. Obama lies, but math doesn't. 2+2 still equals 4, the square of the hypotenuse still equals the sum of the squares of the other two sides, and it's still not possible to borrow one's way out of debt while at the same time trying to spend one's way out of massive deficits. It ain't rocket science.

It doesn't take an economics genius to understand that Obamanomics is sheer fantasy, and if you'd take Obama's member out of your mouth long enough educate yourself and honestly think about it, you'd know what every one else in the world knows, including China, Britain and the rest of those who we've borrowed trillions from. Obama is aa incompetent amateur who's bankrupting America.

Countries around the world are cutting up our credit cards. When Bush left office, we had 42 countries which lend us money. We now have 15, and a lot of those countries are dumping our bonds and counting on other currencies.

All other things being equal (which it won't, it'll be worse) by 2020, our government will have no money left after paying our debt service and EXISTING entitlements, to pay for anything else; no military, no education, no infrastructure, no courts, intel, space programs or any of the thousands of other things the federal government has taken on.

I await your factual rebuttal, Tammy the Obamaton.


OBAMA AND ALINSKY'S RULES FOR RADICALS
If you pay close attention to Obama's game plans and the methods he uses you will see he is using Alinsky's Book "Rules for Radicals"

Alinsky asserted that he was more concerned with the acquisition of power than anything else. Alinsky advises his followers that the poor have no power and that the real target is the middle class: "Organization for action will now and in the decade ahead center upon America's white middle class. That is where the power is. Our rebels have contemptuously rejected the values and the way of life of the middle class. We must begin from where we are if we are to build power for change, and the power and the people are in the middle class majority."

But that didn't stop Alinsky and his followers from using the middle class for their own purposes. They counted on the guilt and shame of the white middle class to get what they wanted. In order to take over institutions and get power, the middle class had to be convinced that they were somehow lucky winners in "life's lottery."
Alinsky's radicals found a perfect vehicle for their destruction of the American system and more particularly for taking and maintaining power. That instrument was the Democratic Party.
The transition of the old Democratic Party to what exists today should not surprise or confound conservatives. Nor should Alinsky's tactics seem foreign. After all, for nearly 40 years, Republicans and the conservative agenda have been getting hammered by the left through the successful use of Alinsky tactics.

In that cause, radicals and the liberal-left gravitated toward the print and electronic media, toward the university professorate and the law. The left, consciously adopted Alinsky's rules. The impact changed the nature of the Democratic Party and the direction of the United States. Increasingly, the left is succeeding in changing the nature of the Republican Party as well.

renny

renny suggests. "The problem is those *principled* cons. who did not vote in Nov. or voted 3rd party DECIDED they wanted this Cong. mess that we have. A non-Rep. vote was a vote for King Elect O, Schumer, Dodd, Franks, Rangel, et. al.

Third parties NEVER WIN ANYTHING.

In pres. and Cong. elections, the Reps. are already on every ballot in every town, city, county, and state, which is no small matter if you ever tried to get another party on the ballot. You should vote Rep."

Question: Tell me again why I should vote for a Republican when they claim to be one thing and then, when in office, they out-liberal the liberals? When Republicans do what Democrats do, the only difference is in the name. Where's the upside?

I voted for Bush and he $hit on me in virtually every aspect Republicans claim they are different from liberals, from entitlements, to immigration to runaway spending to massive debt to smaller and less intrusive government.

Maybe you don't mind being lied to and $hit on. That's what liberals do. I don't take it from anyone.

badbassplayer
i agree with the idea of a voter test - but not quite as you put it. i believe that it is the right of all (eligible) americans to vote for who they want, even if they are uninformed and are not even voting for the candidate who best represents their ideals. instead i think there should be a questionnare on the issues- and then the actual candidate selection portion. this way, no one can attack us for talking about or referencing "how obama got elected".. we will know exactly the amount of people who voted for him even though they didn't know what he stood for (or who his VP was, or that he was against Ira...). i think this would be an excellent group of statistics to measure and track.

badbassplayer
I agree with the idea of a voter test - but not quite as you put it. I believe that it is the right of all (eligible) Americans to vote for who they want, even if they are uninformed and are not even voting for the candidate who best represents their ideals. Instead I think there should be a questionnaire on the issues- and then the actual candidate selection portion. This way, no one can attack us for talking about or referencing "how Obama got elected". We will know exactly the amount of people who voted for him even though they didn't know what he stood for (or who his VP was, or that he was against Iraq and for abortion...). I think this would be an excellent group of statistics to measure and track. Although it is sad to think something like this would be helpful because so many voters are incredibly uninformed.

The polls
that approve of Obama also find that a majority believe the country is headed in the wrong direction.

Will we ever hear the truth?
This whole incident just displays the cocky arrogance of the mainstream secular world. And they smugly want us to believe them?

"Let your yes be yes and your no be no" seem to be lost in modern politcs, journalism and society at large

Heres a blog post that talks about that:

http://redletterbelievers.blogspot.com/2009/06/will-we-ever -trust-again.html

Bob_C, Renny
I'm with Bob. Its too late for the republicans now in congress to try to act conservative. They are the ones who had the chance and the mandate, and shafted their constituency. They must be replaced, by conservatives in the primaries. Failing that, by Democrats who possibly might be decent men who act with the fate of America, rather than their own bank balance in mind. Its sad to see the mess, but at least it is now visible. And give Barry credit, he is making such extravagant claims that disappointment is inevitable. If enough of these programs are seen as obviously counter-productive, a wholesale cleanup is barely possible. Its the country's only chance to remain a shining city on a hill.

Where..???
Where are these polls conducted,in the hood?.

Tammy
All of those so-called "respectable" economists were the same people in 2006 telling us that nothing was wrong. The only person we should be listening to right now is one Peter Schiff. He was telling us in 2005-2007 that everything was falling apart at the seams. The same "respectable" economists that are telling us we need to give liquidity to banks, bail things out, create universal health care were the same people, quite literally, laughing in Peter's face when he said the banking system was a house of cards and real estate was going to go bust.

Nope, let's listen to all the same people that couldn't see this coming, created the envrionment that caused it, on how to fix it.

The worst economist in the world today is Paul Krugman, and he is the one that has a huge amount of influence in current policy.

ShaneRoach - Bush IS a Liberal
Bush is a liberal. The banks didn't need liquidity, they needed to go bankrupt and then we need to change the banking laws so banks are no longer permitted to just create money. The reason they needed this "liquidity" is because of fractional reserve banking. When ever bank is permitted to create loans at 3 times the amount of money they actually have (at a 30% reserve ratio as we have now), it's pretty clear there isn't ever going to be enough money to actually pay it back. How can there be, in aggregate, $3,333 in loan promises for every $1,000 that actually exists? It's ludicrous and banks went right along with it.

Few banks would have actually vanished. People would have still lost money (we all lost money because of this), but we'd have a better banking system today. Instead, we've just about nationalized the entire industry, dooming it to failure as all nationalized industries are doomed to fail. This would NEVER have happened if Bush wasn't a liberal.

You can't "save" capitalism with government intervention. The only thing capitalism needs saving from is government, that's why we're in this mess, too much government. And Bush, like any good liberal, thought it needed even more government to fix the problem.

Thief in Chief
So,,,when do we get to oust the usurper? Let's get behind our flag, people, and do what we must. Every tax payer ought to be screaming to see that elusive birth certificate that obama claims proves he is American. His ideals certainly are African, eh?

Dark Horse Candidate
Fact is, Obama was probably the ultimate "dark horse" candidate, that is, one whose nomination was "unexpected" (the actionline said Hil was inevitable) & about whom little was made known publicly, at least in the pop media. The term has NO racial connotations! This was IMO by design; he & his supporters counted on basically a stealth campaign. He did not have to run on any particular issues. He basically let McCain lose for him by failing to engage on any real issues or offer a conservative, free-market economic plan.

The last times candidates ran on actual stands on issues IMO was in 1988 when GHWB pledged "Read My Lips," won, broke it, then lost in 1992 to Willie-Boy who promised a "Middle Class Tax Cut" he didn't even TRY to deliver. All Barry did was look & sound pretty & spout empty platitudes about "change." (Not even original, Willie ran on "change" & "worst economy in 50 yrs haha in '92) Pres. Obama has little or no mandate for anything specific, except to be of African heritage, & to not be Bush.

I agree, BTW, that the pop media probably pulled the old Nixon/Kennedy gambit to make Barry look young, vigorous, & hip. All thru the primary season, McCain looked & sounded commanding & Presidential, but the minute he & Barry got their respective nods, Mack as seen on TV suddenly morphed into tired cranky Grandpa Grumpus.

Barry & the CongressDems once inaugurated basically have brought in as much of the standard Dem statist agenda baggage as they themselves could stomach, including a quantum leap in pork spending packaged & marketed as "stimulus."

Coming apart....
Like a hillside full of wind mills
Like a third trimester baby in Tiller's office
Like a fly that dare fly near the Pres
Like Orlando in the finals
Like a rocket launched by Cuba

I love watching conservotrons
convincing themselves that their evil empire is failing, and that their own army of light is ready to pounce into the moment and save civilization.

Eight out of ten columns and almost all posts on this site are about democrats, liberals, gays, feminists, etc., etc., etc.

Maybe if Republicans actually spent some time working on new ideas of their own and started acting like a real political party of adults with brains you would have more people who actually listen to what you have to say.

Then you wouldn't have to totally depend on each other for your sad validation.

Matt, I sure hope this continues
I too often give the American voter zero credit for understanding what is going on. I would love to see the trend continue and agree there are some cracks appearing. Some have actually spoken out against the Pres and are still ticking. Had to be careful during the Clinton years and I thought it may be the same this time around as well.

Instead of making racist jokes
about the Obamas, you might disassociate yourself from all of your congressmen who talk about their Christian values while diddling employees or restroom strangers. It's interesting how TH posters never have anything negative to say about their own loyal hypocrites.

I suspect that if
conservatives had something interesting and important to talk about, all of these endless brain-dead, un-clever insults would lose their endless fascination.

mars
After all the smoke and rhetoric has cleared and truth is out, we will learn one thing-- you can't engage in the kind of economic behavior Obama is pushing without disaster. It's that simple. Never mind birth certificates, personality, or whether his wife has fashion sense or not-- his economic policies are old hat, and have never worked. Unless he changes them drastically and soon, we are in for a world of hurt. And Republicans will be the beneficiaries, provided they are conservative and reasonable.

somebody said
"and the closer we get to 2010, the further they will move away from Barry Soetoro."

And then there will be so many popular, strong republicans to run that have been drawn from your brilliant, popular, respected party, which is represented by all the brilliant posters on this thread.

Robert
For whatever flaws it has, Obama's economic policies have kept us from a disaster so profound that it would have brought back the dark ages.

I know, of course, that when the economy gets better in all sectors, (not just the market, for example), and unemployment drops further, conservatives are ready to say it would have happened anyway.

If you are lamenting the fact that the kind of bloated, paper-intensive economy we were floating in, paying and making large amounts of money on things that had essentially had no value is gone and probably won't return, I say hooray to all that.

mars
"For whatever flaws it has, Obama's economic policies have kept us from a disaster so profound that it would have brought back the dark ages." Not at all. We had a recession starting that would have cycled through and come out in a year or eighteen months. Obama's spending, both completed and projected, will lead to tax increases (many of them hidden) and inflation. You can't monetize a large segment of the national debt without producing those results. And in case you haven't noticed, unemployment is slowly rising, not declining. The dark ages? You've been drinking the Koolaid again, haven't you?

watching from mars opines:
"It's interesting how TH posters never have anything negative to say about their own loyal hypocrites."
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Then you are either a recent TH reader or haven't been paying attention.

The main difference between liberals and conservatives when faced with unseemly behavior within the ranks is that, more often than not, the conservative is condemned and ex-communicated, whereas liberals treat such behavior as a resume enhancement.

Conservatives strive for excellence - knowing perfection is out of reach - but also knowing that falling short is still a very high standard of behavior.

Liberals just lower their bar of acceptability and usually attempt to turn their perpetrators into victims.

Comparing liberal hypocrisy with conservative hypocrisy is - well - hypocritical.

"Moderate" Republicans
I agree with the statements about so-called "moderate", i.e., which-way-is-the-wind-blowing, Republicans. They remind me of the weather vane on top of a building; they will go in whichever direction they think the political wind is blowing. These people are really our biggest problem, not the Democrats, as dangerous as they are.

I voted for McCain, with substantial reluctance, but if he had won I suspect his trademark "reach across the isle" would have landed us in about the same position as we are now getting, though probably on a milder scale. It's interesting to me that for all the GOP's pride in "compromising" the Dems now in power don't seem to care how much they trample on the Repubs. Bi-partisanship is dead for Dems in power. It is only a clueless GOP that (with some exceptions) persists at living in a naive fantasy land.

Robert to Mars - May I?
" The total number of people on the unemployment insurance rolls dropped for the first time since early January, the government said Thursday, while new claims for benefits rose slightly.

The Labor Department said the total unemployment insurance rolls fell by 148,000 to 6.69 million in the week ending June 6, the largest drop in more than seven years. The decline is a sign that layoffs are easing.

The drop also breaks a string of 21 straight increases in continuing claims, the last 19 of which were records. A dip in continuing claims several weeks ago was later revised higher.

The department also said initial claims rose 3,000 to a seasonally adjusted 608,000 last week, above analysts' expectations. The four-week average, which smooths fluctuations, fell by 7,000 to 615,750. Continuing claims data lags initial claims by one week.

Can't blame Bush
It's all on Barry now.He better have broad shoulders,a strong back,and a thick skin.

Bee Vee - Unemployment rate up

Keeping the public ignorant
His approval rating would have been alot lower and fallen alot faster if people even KNEW about the 80% of goings on the MSM is not reporting.

That is their role, keep people in the dark as long as possible for as much as possible to keep that fake rating up. Stop any 10 people on the street and ask them about the Walpin firing, the WH threats to Crysler debt holders, Pelosi barring Repubs from legislation etc. They will not have the slightest clue what you are talking about. having NEVER heard on single word about it

Unless you read web news and blogs daily ( aned alot of the population don't but are starting to), the rest of the public has been kept ignorant of 80% of what Obama is doing. The MSM doesn't even think it's worth spinning, they just don't report it at all, as if it never happened.

You can't disapprove of what you don't even know about

Robert
Have you noticed none of the trolls ever seem to discuss what IS? They harp on what was, or what might have been if......The more brave (or deluded) rave about the Utopia on the way, just as soon as Barry the Brilliant solves our problems. About the only good news at present is that things are not going bad as fast as they could be. Of course, the stock market seems to have leveled off, which merely proves that in a bad economy, business can still make a profit by laying off non-productive employees.

not carter v.2
Sorry Josey, he isn't Carter v.2-he's way worse

Joe - conservative logic
"His approval rating would have been alot lower and fallen alot faster if people even KNEW about the 80% of goings on the MSM is not reporting."

That's how we know things are bad, right, Joe? Um, we don't know what those things are, because they're not being reported, but we know they're bad anyway.

It's the 80% of unknown things not reported about Palin, Bush, Cheney, Boehner, Newt that will be sure to get us every time.

Primus 54
"Conservatives strive for excellence - knowing perfection is out of reach - but also knowing that falling short is still a very high standard of behavior."

I love it when this old saw is dragged out for every right-wing scandal. The difference isn't standards, Primus, the difference is that in general Democrats do go around acting as the moral arbiter for everybody else, preaching about everybody else's sins while hiding their own and lying about it.

This has nothing to do with "falling short" - it has everything to do with lying and hypocracy, while trying to ruin other people's lives for the same acts you are committing in private.

"Falling short of perfection?" Give me a break!

Tell me, was the conservative associate of Tancredos who has been arrested for murdering two people (including a child) and injuring two others to raise money for immigrant control just "falling short of perfection"?


Primus 54
As for Dems not bearing the burden of their social crimes, I'm not seeing John Edwards around the political scene these days.

And, speaking of Edwards, I don't remember any time during his affair that he was attacking others and dragging their names through the mud for the choices they were making in their private lives. did Edwards "fall short of perfect?"

What a bizarre justification for anything.

watching from mars
Your obfuscation is cute, but pointless. Dems did not abandon Edwards because of his infidelity, they abandoned him because he just does not sell. Clinton got a by on every filthy little thing he did, and the Huffington Post website has lightweight pre-porn adds all over it.

It's not a mystery why.

Mars
Mars how bout Cold cash Jefferson or Ted the swimmer are they still in the ranks? Is Bill safe sex Clinton still the darling of the left? Jus asking.

Resume enhancers indeed.

watching from mars:

Like I said - all you got is "tit-for-tat" to justify your side's unseemly behaviors.

Note I didn't say "all" conservatives paid for their indiscretions - I said, "more often than not". I'll give you a pass because I know you libsquirts have issues when it comes to comprehending intellectual honesty.

As to the rest - there is no way you can identify with my points as you've never been a conservative.

I was a liberal once - but I grew out of it.

Perhaps someday you will, too.

Change?
Can anyone spare some change? No job has been a big change for me.

obama with a thick skin?
His skin is so thin you can see through it. Onionskin obama. He thinks everybody loves him and when he hears a dissenting word he whines like a little girl.

Pistol
They do seem to dwell on anything but the here and now. The comment about Obama saving us from falling into the dark ages is typical. It's unarguable, too. After all, we didn't fall into the dark ages-- ipso facto, he saved us. They like factoids rather than fact. A minor adjustment in one week's or two week's unemployment is a trend, while the monthly report for May is the deep distant past. When the inflation begins, it will still be all Bush's fault, while every positive blip of any indicator will be proof that he saved us from grubbing for turnips with a wooden hoe.

Mars, huh...
...that sounds like a good place for ALL the Hopey Changers to build their Utopian settlement!

Glad McCain didn't win
Although I sincerely wish that Republicans were in power right now, I am so glad that McCain did not win the election. Imagine the government controlled media's response to what is happening in our country would be if a Republican were in office. Unemployment almost at ten per cent and the media puts a happy face on it. It was a little over five per cent during George Bush's time in office and it was a major story every day on how bad things were. Kind of makes you wish George were back in office although he, too went along way too many times and his veto hand was broken. Only three and a half more years, folks. Until then we have the midterm elections to get our country back from the facists.

Will
Scared to death of strong women aren't you? Did your mama beat you too many times when you were young? Sarah Palin has more going for her than your little man obama. If only she were president right now. You would not be seeing this government takeover we are witnessing in horror. Freedom would ring.

tammy the turd
again this socialist turns up to bore us with her denial that flap ears the clown remains totally clueless.

But as we continue to notice, the trolls can do little more than claim that just because their messiah and god is pretending to ber a leader the reality is he remains a puppet with his socialist handlers pulling his strings.

The trolls can't defgend but they think professing their love wins the arguments the right puts forward.

But as we have seen tammy the turd has yet to justify the massive pork spending, the huge deficits, the proposed $800 billion tax increase and the non stop printing of new money means anything more but a coming financial meltdown.

But the trolls don't care. Their love obkect is in the white house and in their pathetic world he can do no wrong.

That flap ears remains clueless about how he is destroying the economic health of america remains beyond their understanding.

But what will these trolls say when hyperinflation finally finishes off what of the personal wealth of the hard working americans.

Even then the welfare state of the left will collapse when there is no more wealth for the socialist to steal to reward the parasites the left enables and rewards


Cactus, Kate, et. al.
If you really want to see your side back in power, why don't you spend your energies coming up with some actual ideas instead of insulting me and competing with each other in the "who-can-make-the-nastiest-insult-about-the-president" contest?

This is what makes you all so boring to everybody who has different ideas from yourselves. You have nothing to offer except insults, complaints, whining, and general dislike for everything American that doesn't have an aluminum storm door or is educated beyond the 8th grade.

Perhaps I shouldn't say
you have nothing offer as a sub-culture.

It's just that if you do have something to offer besides myth, insult, and self-love you might do better as a party if you learned to express it.

I will also take back the self-love
part. I should have said "self-sbsorption."

The level of anger, derision, and victimhood expressed on TH indicates that what is essentially going on here is compensation for a total lack of self love or esteem.

BeeVee

"This is what makes you all so boring to everybody who has different ideas from yourselves. You have nothing to offer except insults, complaints, whining, and general dislike for everything American that doesn't have an aluminum storm door or is educated beyond the 8th grade.'

Just curious, why do you bother to read all of our boring columns and posts? Remember, you came here. It's not like we go to your sewers, like HuffPo and Koss. This is one of the few places in which we conservatives can discuss our issues. You have your places as well. Why not stay there? If we're such boring meanies, why not stay over in libland where all of the conversation is electrifying, the people are wonderful and the love permiates every word?

Are you a masochist? Do tou really think that anyone with half a brain gives a $hit what you think? That's hugely egocentric and VERY wrong. There are very few liberals who come here to discuss and learn, and you're definitely not one of them.

The "Right" to vote
Prior to the revolution all colonies had property ownership laws in order to be eligible to vote. There is a good article about it here that covers a lot of it well.

http://answers.Yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080226194626 AAihAKK

I asked a local 19yo girl that I know if she voted for obama. She said yes, he had better karma than the old guy, that and it would be cool to see a black president. Cringes all around. She had no comprehension at all of his ideas, only that he had good karma and was a minority. Good lord. Someone that uninformed should not be making decisions for the nation.

Here is a key passage about voting "rights" (suffrage) from the link above ..

The basic principle that governed voting in colonial America was that voters should have a "stake in society." Leading colonists associated democracy with disorder and mob rule, and believed that the vote should be restricted to those who owned property or paid taxes. Only these people, in their view, were committed members of the community and were sufficiently independent to vote. Each of the thirteen colonies required voters either to own a certain amount of land or personal property, or to pay a specified amount in taxes.

Also see http://www.jstor.org/pss/1228746

Microsoft
Interesting that Microsoft would consider such a move, considering that its founder, Gates, is such a caring Democrat. Typical Demo-socialist - spreading the wealth is OK, as long as it's not your wealth.

bee vee kool-aid drinker
identifying the problem is the first step to solving it.

Obviously you remain too stupid to have read the solutions many of us have offered.

Putting an end reckless and wasteful spending, growing the deficit and printing money, cutting back on the size of gov't, holding congress accountable for their actions and when they have used their office to reward their special interest groups seek legal solutions are just a place to start.

But your messiah has used the treasury to reward the corrupt acorn organization, rewarding the unions with money from the treasury and doing nothing about the millions in bonuses paid to those at freddie and fannie and congressional all point out that flap ears is making the problems worse.


Tammy
"If anybody can make the economy work it's Obama". Well, we all are waiting anxiously for that to happen. Can he walk on water as well? We wait for miracles to happen.

anybody know?

What qualifies obama to make the economy work?

watching from mars
I will admit moral failings by all whether Republicans, Democrats, liberals,comservatives, whatever. And yes there are many hypocrites on both sides who condemn the other side while engaging in the same behavior.

But I think your Reply #74 at 12:31 reveals your mindset pretty clearly. You desire a society where there are no values and anything goes with no arbiters or judges involved. Except of course if the behavior goes against the PC liberal agenda then it is obviously wrong.

Tell me something. How can you liberals say everything is morally relative but then decide something is wrong? It seems to me you can't have it both ways. And how is it "ruining other people's lives" to call them out on wrongful acts that do hurt innocent people?

I'm going to take a wild guess that you have the John/Elizabeth Edwards and Bill/Hillary Clinton situations in mind. So Elizabeth and Hillary should just have been good little zombie slaves and not complained about their husband's indiscretions and taken one for the team? And the MSM just left it alone?

My God, how much further can our press fall when it took a supermarket tabloid paper to reveal the Edwards story while the MSM left it alone?

I'm sorry wfm but actions do have consequences and people, especially those involved, do have a right to feel hurt by those deeds.

Tammy Reply #17
I'm practically speechless. All I can say is that if they ever remake "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" you should be a shoo-in for a part. I can't remember when I've seen such mindless devotion to another person.

Why, since November, do I feel like I have been falling down a hole after a big white rabbit?

Keep in mind. . .
that the "polling organizations" are in bed with the "mainstream media" and will keep the "approval ratings" for the "messiah" at record levels.
The only way for the polling organizations to be trusted is for them to publish the EXACT questions asked of the polling "sample".
Until then, trust NONE OF THEM.

no kidding wilson
if you realy want a laugh re-read animal farm.
so relevent. the part when squeeler tells the animals haw much better things are than in the time of jones is just too funny. well maybe not that funny.

A little "dirty secret" . . .
of the "unemployment figures" is that when a person exhausts all unemployment insurance payments, they are NO LONGER COUNTED as being "unemployed"; hence, the lower figures.

RINOs shouldn't feel confortable
I'm of the firm belief that 535 empty seats would be an improvement over the current congress.

I have a "republican" representative in my district. Good guy. Hell, he lives three blocks from me. Good guy. But I'm voting for the primary challenger against him, because America will not "return to the intent of the Constitution" if we keep electing "the lesser of two evils" just to keep the other party out of power. I will no longer hold my nose and vote for crappy Republicans (can you say McCain).

I love so much of what the founding fathers wrote and believed in and established. But they were not without fault. Their biggest mistakes were in not seeing the long term negative effects of incumbency and a REAL lack of term limits. Both bare signficant impact on the wellbeing of our republic, and much of it, I would venture to say is "negative" impact.

The American People...
Are not Stupid! I do not believe for one minute that they could not see Mr. Chitown was exactly who he was from day one. You see when the American People hates something, Smokers, George Bush, Sarah Palin, or the Poor, they loose their rational thinking processes. The beauty of your article is the beauty of America, sooner or later America sees the error of it's ways and a correction occurs. Even the media can't stop that correction. Evidenced by how far America has come in such a short time, historically speaking.

eddie the optimist

Americans are a lot stupider then you give them credit for. Most of them care more about american idol or paris hilton's new bff then who will sit on the supreme court or represent them in congress. As far as hating Palin or W. or Chaney they can't even explain why, they are just repeating what they heard some rock star or film star say. Sorry to be so negative.

Will with the little willy
Little willie willie won't go homo!!!!

Mary
Its not so much Americans are stupid as that somany are lazy and uninvolved when things are going OK. Considering the impact of bad government, being uninvolved can be described as very very stupid. But unemployment tends to hit those with an uninvolved nmentality hardest, and that gets their attention. Then they raise their heads, note who seems to be in charge and vote against whomever it is. This is what happened to Carter, and it probably, not assuredly, will happen to Barry. It would be nice if some of the lazy folks would use their memory once in a while.

Enough is Enough
Delouse the White House. Impeach the imposter. Bring back the sucka-fly.

BeeVee - Jun 18, 2009 - 12:03 PM EST
"The Labor Department said the total unemployment insurance rolls fell by 148,000 to 6.69 million in the week ending June 6, the largest drop in more than seven years. The decline is a sign that layoffs are easing."

Could it also be a sign that after 14 months on the unemployment rolls, the unemployed are simply dropped from the statistics; but they are still unemployed - just not counted.

WHAT OBAMA GIVES AMERICANS
For all of you who still think Obama is the ONE, after witnessing 6 months of his agenda, this is what he will be providing to Americans:

An explosion in prices as Americans scramble to buy assets, or simply basic necessities, before the dollar's purchasing power evaporates;

Shortages, sparse grocery store shelves, and gas lines;

Failed businesses and economic dislocations;
A breakdown in commerce, as longer-term transactions become impossible to make;

Rising crime and unemployment;

Government services all but disappearing, as an angry dependent class takes to the streets.

A weak American dollar, and a lower financial rating. This will be the America is making in two years.

In late April, the international news media reported a major development underscoring the coming doom of the U.S. dollar. As usual, the U.S. media glossed over another harbinger of what is to come. The Financial Times of London, for example, noted on April 26: "China has quietly almost doubled its gold reserve to become the fifth-biggest holder of the precious metal."

Well, my Liberal friends, you can then thank THE ONE for bringing this remade America to us. Will you stop being arrogant then?

"The One" has come
And I hope and pray that he and his policies fail.
This "One" will ruin the nation.

drunk with power,
they over reached. Their fall will be very rapid. But the damage will have already been done. And it's irreversible. I feel bad for our children, who will never grow up in the country we learned to love. They will grow up in a country with a government that they will learn to hate.

Tammy is at it AGAIN..
Tammy the remedial reading reject offers:

"That is quite the misstatement. Some people
can make things work that others cannot.

If anyone can make the economy work, it will be
Obama."

I know I'm wasting my time asking you this, Ms. Remedial Reading Reject, but puh-LEASE enlighten us and explain HOW oBOMBa the HNIC can "make the economy work". C'mon, pull some more useless rhetoric and hyperbole out of that ample ARSE of yours.

(this oughta be good)

You see, you dopey lubed-erals aren't up to the challenge. You tout the slogans and lines but you don't have the information or the "coliones" to back them up. It's almost funny watching you guys trip over your O-BOMB-A platitudes!!

Meanwhile, every day it's a new O-BOMB-a failure, every day the HNIC looks more and more overmatched and underqualified...

Weeee're waaaaaaaitinnnnnngggg...

Reba
"Well, my Liberal friends, you can then thank THE ONE for bringing this remade America to us. Will you stop being arrogant then"

No, they will not stop being arrogant then. If there is one thing we have learned about libs, it's that the mess is never their fault. Their half-baked ideas and ideology are certainly not to blame. They really believe that their ideas have never been given a full chance.

It'll be W's fault first, then Republicans' fault since they were running things from 2000-2006, then Republicans' fault since the House was GOP from 1994-2006, then the Republican's fault, since we've had a Republican prez since the 70s (but for Clinton), etc., etc., etc.

I agree with your forecast for the future. If you are a conservative, you should be taking steps to get ready. If you are a lib, you don't believe this anyway so don't worry, be happy and enjoy your change.

Libs MIGHT stop being arrogant when they have to knock on the doors of their conservative neighbors to beg for handouts.

He Didn't Win; The GOP Lost
This battle has been the Republican Party's to lose. We are not in this situation because totalitarianism has become wildly popular; the totalitarians have won by default because the Republicans as an institution have gone wobbly & abandoned conservatism at the behest of statists outside & inside their ranks. It turned on its own base, telling conservatives they will be ignored because they have nowhere else to go. It doggedly insisted on worshipping the false cult of "moderate centrist bipartisanship" even though it was gaining them nothing, least of all those phantom "moderate independents" they claimed to be wooing.

The Presidency was lost when McCain was nominated; indeed I'd say it was lost yrs ago when no viable conservative successor to GWB came in sight. The GOP Congress went out of its way to throw its majority down the toilet. In all the breast-beating over Specter's treacherous defection (IMO less treacherous than his continued tenure) the real question was why they'd been losing Senate seats in places like NC and VA, which made wobbly seats in PA & ME critical.

Our only chance may be to have a conservative party ready to challenge the GOP by 2012. Either they'll wise up & figure out which side the butter is on, or they'll keep going as they have. The former case would be a win, the latter would be at least cutting our losses by getting a bogus pseudo-opposition party out of the way. The guaranteed way to lose would be continue with the status quo.

Crackhead from Mars...
You're not worth the time of day, let alone a reply, but the garbage you posted is too ridiculous to be left alone...

"For whatever flaws it has, Obama's economic policies have kept us from a disaster so profound that it would have brought back the dark ages."

Ohhh REALLY?? So...let me guess...our record-setting unemployment numbers over the past few weeks, coupled with continued losses in the stock market, married with government control of private companies AND also deficits higher than all prior administrations COMBINED, is your idea of "keeping us from a disaster so profound etc."??

My my...thank GOD I am not a member of YOUR immediate family. With a mindset like this...I'll bet you and yours are living in a station-wagon. Hopefully it's one of those BIG ones from the 1970's so you can all fit.

Then again - you are "watching from Mars" but you apparently forgot to bring your EYEGLASSES.

Moron.

And If Not...
I think we know the answer to your question.

Look around...talk to your friends who drank the O-Bomb-A Kook-Aid...check out the libtrolls who venture here and spew their garbage. Listen to what they say, read what they write.

They're still in love with O. They still spout the slogans, they're still singing the company songs. They still believe this guy is the best thing since sliced bread and the VW bug (the first one).

They still speak and write about how much better things are now that Barry the BOMB is the HNIC, all the while ignoring the blatant, plain-crystal-clear facts staring them straight in the eyes. They still think this pied piper from the Windy City is the guy to part the Red Sea like Moses and lead us to the promised land. They still think he's going to help us all "gets me mines".

They still deflect the "One's" failures by comparing his current rule to GW Bush's 8 years. It's a comparison even more unrelated than apples vs. oranges but again, since the facts don't matter to them (and they don't see the facts ANYWAY), it's pretty much a non-issue.

Their stupidity and ignorance allowed this paper president a chance to flush this country down the crapper...now, it's up to us to right the ship and stop the downward flow.

Don't rely on them losing their arrogance and coming to their senses. It's just not going to happen.

Keep it down
Please keep it down. I can hear your throat shredding screams all the way over at CNN. And Bob C's "if you'd take Obama's member out of your mouth" is the perfect statement to use in a debate. The credibility quotient is off the scale. But it falls far short in the campaign worker group. But the good news is all you have to do is change it to; "if you'd take Sen. Ensign's member out of your mouth", it instantly regains all of its power. Aren't the conservatives the ones in power in Iran? See, people are the same, all over the world.

Tim...
What's your POINT? Do you have one?

Towry
Change People Are Starting To No Longer Believe In

****
Wrong title. Change People are no Longer
Willing to Wait for.

We are a country that expects Instant Gratifi-
cation. Remember. That is how we got into
this mess in the first place. Promises remain
unfilled within the first six month. Time
to bellyache.

The GOOD, THE BAD & THE UGLY...

GOOD is on the outside, looking in; while the BAD is on the inside looking out; and it's going to get UGLY before GOOD is on the inside, again.

http://incongress.blogtownhall.com/

like when iraq was a quagmire
before we even got there
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