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Thursday, March 06, 2008
Matt Towery :: Townhall.com Columnist
McCain Must Seize Economic Issue While Democrats Fight On
by Matt Towery
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Last week, our firm, InsiderAdvantage, became the first independent pollster to indicate that Hillary Clinton was leading the Texas Democratic primary. After she won both Texas and Ohio, numerous GOP pundits were gleeful over the prospects of a likely Democratic battle all the way to the Democrats' convention this summer.

While conventional wisdom might suggest that such a protracted intraparty battle would give Republican John McCain lots of time to raise money and catch his breath, there is another side to the situation.

We are in a political season unlike any that we have seen in most of our lifetimes. People are watching political debates in numbers usually reserved for pop singing contests or television ballroom-dancing battles.

The Clinton-Obama war is providing both political junkies and everyday Americans with plenty of entertainment. And with no GOP contest to follow, the Democratic fight is truly the only show on the air. Neither uncomfortable press conferences with President Bush nor endless speculation about who might be the next Republican vice-presidential running mate will keep John McCain in the limelight.

McCain has been unfairly characterized as a man who does not understand economics, and who has been a lifelong traitor to conservative approaches to national economic policy.

With all due respect to those who deride him, let me recall my years as a partisan, and a very involved one. I recall that my friend Jack Kemp, who once campaigned for me, was never one to be viewed as anything but a bedrock conservative. He worked with a young John McCain on a conservative Republican economic agenda long before certain columnists and pundits darkened the doors of Washington, D.C.

I'll freely admit that McCain's failure to originally support the Bush tax cuts was a serious error, but I will also note that he truly was consistent with his longtime mantra that spending must be reigned in at the same time that taxes were cut.

McCain has good advisors and supporters -- as did Kemp -- who could serve as the nucleus of a dynamic economic summit in which the brightest minds of not only the GOP, but of a host of nonpartisan organizations, could meet to determine a realistic and dynamic plan to turn our nation's economy around; not just for a year, but for many years to come.

Has anyone noticed that Hillary Clinton, who clearly seized on the economy and her asserted experience in dealing with "hard times" to appeal to voters in Ohio, is using the slogan "Solutions for America." I bring this up because former U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich left the presidential race behind in favor of his think-tank effort called "American Solutions."

My advice to John McCain would be to get together "the old gang" that basically pushed the Reagan economic policies of the 1980s -- the Gingrichs, Kemps and others of that era -- and add to that roster some people with fresh views on the future of our economy. It should be a serious undertaking.

If these men and women sequestered themselves away, be it for a week or a month, and produced an entirely new and innovative way of dealing with both taxation and government spending, they would do their candidate the biggest favor imaginable.

First, they would appear to acknowledge that we are in big economic trouble, versus a president who last week seemed shocked that gas prices could rise to $4 a gallon, and who dismissed any possibility of recession. That only confirms the notion of a Republican Party that is out of touch.

Second, such an effort, if more than simply window dressing, could attract the attention of many independent voters who appreciate Obama and Clinton's interest in the economic plight of Americans, but who aren't necessarily convinced that they offer any concrete answers.

Hanging his hat on the success of The Surge in Iraq is risky business for McCain. And it seems silly to waste his undisputed record as the enemy of federal budget earmarks -- unjustified pork for individual lawmakers' states. That valuable political commodity is obscured by endless talk of Iraq; it leads to a media drumbeat that economics just isn't McCain's cup of tea.

"Seize the day," goes the Latin maxim. If McCain and his party don't, they will find this special political holiday they now enjoy to be have been wasted time; particularly when they are left facing the inevitable Democratic ticket that, in one order or another, will include both the names Clinton and Obama.

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McCain is a Democrat.
Do not be fooled. He is just a slightly slower acting poison that Obama or Clinton. Any of them would ruin the country. Why bother writing or talking about what he ought to do to win?

Oil is a Big Problem for McCain

No Production Boost From OPEC

Is this what we get for nation building? How will McCain fix this?

NPR-OPEC on Wednesday accused the U.S. of economic “mismanagement” that it said is pushing oil prices to record highs, rebuffing calls to boost output and laying blame at the feet of the Bush administration.

Oil prices surged past $104 a barrel for the first time after the OPEC announcement and the release of a U.S. government report showing a surprise drop in crude oil stockpiles.

The 13-nation Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries said it would maintain current production levels because crude supplies are plentiful and demand is expected to weaken in the second quarter.

OPEC President Chakib Khelil told reporters the global market is being affected by what he called “the mismanagement of the U.S. economy,” and that America’s problems were a key factor in the cartel’s decision to hold off on any action.

READ MORE

http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/no-production-boos t-from-opec

Buffett: US Essentially in Recession

Juan-Continue de-industrialization of US
Yes we need to continue the Jorge Bush policy of transferring US industry to the narco state of Meh-hee-Co and the nominal enemy of Communist China. Free trade uber alles!

Juan McAmnesty is an old, poorly speaking, liberal Republican. He's toast.

When the last occupation of substance (industry, autos, steel, aircraft, tool-making, etc.) leaves the USA, will the neocons, the blogoshere keyboardists, the uber free traders stop to ponder that at all?

It's all a shame
Since McCain cannot win in November, why all the worry?

Let's just settle in for time of incompetency(Obama) or deliberate socialism (Clinton) and watch how the conservative prospects brighten in just 2 short years.

The Conservatives in Congress will be greatly strengthened as it fights either one, a fate that would never happen if the improbable-to-be-elected McCain made it and subterfuged them.

MATT
It appears, that you and your firm are interviewing for a job."My firm was the first to call the Texas primary,etc.What is that?Also,"Seize the Day" is not Latin.Carpe Diem is Latin for "Seize the Day".Now the "Old Gang" and my friend Jack Kemp.Please tell me,if these are the same people who espoused "Supply-Side Economics".The Chinese now supply "US" with our goods and the money to buy same.It would appear, that this fiasco is what has given the Chinese $3,000,000,000,000,000.00 of "US" money and WRECKED our economy.When you refer to them as the "Old Gang",you are correct,for once. The republican party,to which I am a member,will gather the best minds to address our economic problems.Tell me where have they been for the past TWO YEARS.I have been tell anyone who would listen,that "US" are in trouble.But, no the "Best and the Brightest" would not listen.So, now I hope,that they are who they say they are.I will say this for the last time,"US" are in BIG,BIG,BIG trouble!!!SORRY...

Economics will be defining issue.
John Konopp's reference to the price of oil, declining U.S. dollar, and impact of each on the November election is on the mark.

Given those issues, McCain has his work cut out for him, given that the GOP has been in power as the dollar declined and price of oil has gone up.

Oil is still largely traded in U.S. dollars, I think. And with a cheaper dollar, it takes more dollars to purchase the same amount of oil.

But far more importantly, as our economy slides into recession, the Fed will continue to cut interest rates, hoping to stimulate the economy... but cutting interest rates makes our bonds less attractive investments, further weakening a dollar already under stress.

This administration has purposely supported devaluing the dollar so exports would increase.

The "Euro" and other currencies have risen as the dollar has fallen.

I hate to say it, but OPEC has a point.

Mismanagement of our economy by this administration has contributed to our current financial malaise. The administration had lots of help from the private sector...don't get me wrong.

On energy specifically, and to the eternal disgrace of liberal democrats, I applaud the administration in its efforts to open up drilling in anwr, relax restrictions on building of new refineries, and pursuit of nuclear energy.

I still think there is lots of oil out there. It will just cost more to extract it.

But I fear OPEC will still be in a position to dictate its price.

We must sever that connection if for no other reason than to eliminate the sad spectacle of a president pleading with OPEC ministers to reconsider their action on not increasing production.

That is unbecoming.

McCain's an economic ignoramus
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He's proven it repeatedly throughout his congressional career, and the more brightly the lights shine down on his perspiring, blithering idiocy, the more inescapable will be the public conclusion that he's a domestic policy disaster wandering around looking for the most embarrasssingly godawful place to lose sphincter control.

Here's a novel solution to his problem in this regard.

Instead of selecting some sort of equally stupid, corrupt, and gut-clenchingly rotten fellow "Rockefeller Republican" to sleaze along with him on the big stage in St. Paul, why doesn't Senator "I'm no Barry Goldwater" McCain select somebody completely out of right field?

Like Thomas Sowell.

Then McCain can publish his (SECRET! *CLASSIFIED*) personal health records to reveal the sordid details pertinent to the likelihood that he's going to drop dead in a year or two.

With the prospect of a *PRESIDENT* Thomas Sowell in view, real, honest-to-God conservatives would surely gut it up and vote for Arizona's antidote to the Bill of Rights in November.

And, brother, wouldn't you like to see what Dr. Sowell could do to Barack Hussein Obama in a public confrontation that Mocha Marvin can't run away from?




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"I'm always embarrassed when people say that I'm courageous. Soldiers are courageous. Policemen are courageous. Firemen are courageous. I just have a thick hide and disregard what silly people say."

-- Thomas Sowell


Is McCain the devil?
Why don't you so called "Conservative" anti-McCain bashers come to you senses and realize thet you are not going to get you way! This country has a 2 party system and the majority does in fact rule. When you marginaize yourselves by applying "Litmus" tests to every position McCain has taken you are totally missing the boat here. It's going to either be Hillary or McCain....If you prefer Hillary because you don't want to compromise your "Principles" you will be an agent of change all right. You will be in effect voting for forced government run health care, a liberal Supreme Court for the next 30 years, and chaos in the Middle East with all the economic consequences that go with it! So McCain works with Democrats...Duh...They are in charge of the Congress...Get a grip people! Whine and complain all you want but for God's sake just hold your nose and go out and vote for him!


JOHN KNOOP

.....Buffet is worth 42 billion ...family incomes of less than a million a year seems like a recession to him .....COLOSSUS

Clutch - Keep groping
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You're not getting anywhere, but you're so *CUTE* when you fumble and fiddle with your external genitalia, mastubating like the little monkey you are.

Apart from the pitiful entertainment value you offer, your simian RINO attitude drops so far beneath the radar that it's hard to consider your posts as more content-rich than a blast of flatulence.

This is a conservative forum, dolt.

Except to the extent that the Republican Party offers a vehicle for the achievement of conservative objectives, there's no reason on earth why we should give a good goddam about the "Rockefeller Republican" RNC establishment's machinations other than to condemn them to the defeat and disaster they've so diligently worked to achieve this year.




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"In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for. As for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican."

-- H.L. Mencken

HOLIER THAN THOU?

.....SJ DOC ...

.....McCain is a Senator running to be President and Commander-in-Chief ...what qualifies you to call him an "economic ignoramus" ...have you been so successful and prosperous that you are in a position to judge him? ...

.....Your sociopathic hatred for McCain makes you look petty, small and dangerous ...stay away from sharp objects and seek professional help ...

.....You have shown yourself to be a "foul-mouthed" ignoramus .....COLOSSUS

.....BTW: Does SJ stand for Stupid Jerk? ...

ANWAR
The much "HERALDED" oil reserve has 3,000,000,000,000 barrels at most.We use 27,000,000,000 barrels per day.I say this because it has been become like Social Security.Don't depend on IT!!!

More than cheap talk
This is the best article I've read by Mr. Towery. And Clutch had it just right up until the last sentence; beyond olfactory repressed voting for president, we need to be working hard for conservative principles at all levels of government and in society at large. Get a grip, you whiners; your complaints are just cheap talk at this point!

baseballdoc - No, just smarter than you
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McCain is a professional politician who satisfies the priorities of the "Rockefeller Republican" establishment which is the default dominant faction in the supposedly Grand Old Party.

Which (if you were in any way politically literate) you'd know has been the "court party" in America since it replaced the equally corrupt and predatory Whig Party back in the 19th Century.

See http://www.lewrockwell.com/wilson/wilson20.html and argue with Clyde Wilson's assessment of "The Republican Charade," whydon'tcha?

The one saving grace of the Republican Party has been found in those brief intervals in its history - in 1866, with the Freedmen's Bureau Act, in 1868 with the Fourteenth Amendment, in 1964 with the Goldwater nomination - when it has been dragged, kicking and screaming and fighting against everything its "leadership" holds valuable - into the defense of individual rights and the concept of civil government under rule of law.

Prior to 1896 and the nomination of William Jennings "Cross of Gold" Bryan, the place for an honest and honerable conservative was the Democratic Party.

There we were called "Bourbon Democrats," and we fought to maintain the gold standard (and the U.S. dollar as the average American's trustworthy store and standard of value), to restrain Republican Party foreign policies of imperialism overseas, and to keep the federal government bound down under "...the chains of the Constitution."

So just what the hell is it that "pseudoconservative" posturing jerkwad schmucks like *YOU* are trying to achieve in this country by contrast, eh?

Your brainless reflexive sucking-up to the "Rockefeller Republicans" is about as appealing as a glob of six-day-old vomit, putzie.

Get used to hearing about it, okay?

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If McCain was smart
Poll after Poll showing a "No Amnesty" position is favored by over 60% of the voters.

McCain says he will still sign an Amnesty if elected President. So either McCain does not want to run on a winning issue or he is not smart.

Since McCain graduated 5th from the bottom of his class at the Naval Academy and got over 100 demerits every year there, I am betting he is not that smart.

So you are wasting your time Matt Towery trying to give McCain good advice on how to win.

McCain wants to win, but he thinks he knows more than the rest of you and he says "F*ck the rest of you B*st*rds".



for SJ Doc
SJ Doc asks: "And, brother, wouldn't you like to see what Dr. Sowell could do to Barack Hussein Obama in a public confrontation that Mocha Marvin can't run away from?"

The VP candidate of the Republicans won't get to debate Obama. The VP candidates of the two parties end up debating each other.

And Sowell's libertarianism would actually HURT him in Rust Belt states like Ohio and Michigan, which want to hear the candidates promise protection, not laissez-faire.

Don't make the mistake of assuming that most Americans are as conservative as you are.

for Brett
Brett claims "Poll after Poll showing a "No Amnesty" position is favored by over 60% of the voters."

But the polls are also showing that right now in 2008, most Americans don't care as much about immigration one way or the other.

From a Rasmussen poll of voters in January 2008:

Most Important Issues

40% Economy
14% Health care
13% War in Iraq
12% National security
8% Immigration
5% Government ethics and corruption
4% Social Security
1% Some other issue
4% Not sure

http://tinyurl.com/2qskhq

So an issue that's of top concern to only 8% of the American electorate isn't going to decide this election. I know that YOU feel strongly about it, and I know that those who identify themselves as "very conservative" feel strongly about it. But no one else does. The polls clearly show that since last year, the economy has replaced immigration as a hot button issue.

SteveL depends on which Poll you cite

Polls can be slanted intentionally.

For example, if I ran hundreds of campaign ads and claimed Hillary or Obama favored giving citizenship and the right to vote to 20 million illegal invaders and showed video pictures of those parades demanding Amnesty with Mexican flags flying, I think the No Amnesty candidate wins.

No Amnesty is a winning position.

Why are Democrats for SAVE act?

If No Amnesty is NOT a winning issue, please explain why first term Democrats like Schuler in NC are sponsoring the SAVE act which is a NO Amnesty bill?


Conservative Forum?
Hardly!

With morons like SJ DOC ranting in every other message it's more like the Bozo Forum in this message string. You far right wackos, this is not for you, so you can go back to shooting yourselves in the feet.

For everyone else, let's go over it agian.

1. A two party system will decide the upcoming election.

2) You only have 2 choices.

3) Your choice will be between the lesser of two evils.

4. A vote with-held is in fact a vote for the greater of evils.

John may not be the ideal candidate but he is far better than the alternative. I guarentee that he will listen to you more than Hillary/Obama when he gets elected. So, just pull the lever next to the "R" and start writing letters to John telling him what you think.

That works a lot better than single issue ranting on a blog that only you read!



McCain Must Seize Economic Issue
I applaud your article. In fact, I would go so far as to say that the survival of our nation depends on what you recommend. It's time to reign in government spending. It saddens me that the democrats are not using this as a rallying cry. Where is the sprit of JFK and Reagon that made peope proud of this nation?

If I were McCain, I would attack the pie in the sky promises of the liberals and pin them against the wall. I really believe the electorate would put McCain the the White House.

Polls show that only 24% of the public think Congress is on the right track. Talk about change. McCain should attack that as well.

Some REAL polls
About 9 in 10 [90%] Southwesterners ages 31 and older consider illegal immigration to be a serious problem in the Southwest; two-thirds [67%] say it’s a “very” serious problem. In contrast, seven in 10 young adults ages 18 to 30 consider the issue a serious problem with 37 percent saying it’s a “very” serious problem.

77 percent of Hispanics say that illegal immigration is a serious problem compared to 39 percent of whites. However, whites are more apt than Hispanics to say the issue is a very serious problem, with 66 percent giving that answer; 38 percent of Hispanics consider it a very serious problem.

Arizona State University-Southwest Poll ; November 6 - December 19, 2007

Compared to other problems facing the country, 81% percent of registered voters nationwide say illegal immigration is an important problem facing the country.
Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg Poll; November 30-December 3, 2007

59% percent of Americans polled believe the more effective way to deal with the potential treat to national security posed by millions of illegal immigrants living within the United States is to crack down on illegal immigration by toughening the enforcement of existing laws, deporting illegal immigrants and prosecuting the employers who illegally employ workers.
UPI/Zogby Poll; April 13-16, 2007

So SteveL it just depends on which poll you believe and how the questions in the poll are framed.


Is McCain the devil? No
A monk named Nostradamus (1503-1566) had visions and made predictions.

He predicted that the Antichrist would take human form three times.

The first was Napoleon Bonaparte, who put Europe into a state of war, causing the War of 1812.
Bonaparte took a large French army and a fleet of ships to Egypt where a British naval strike left them stranded.

The second was Adolph Hitler, who started World War II and the Jewish Holocaust, killing fifty million people. The Antichrist left the Hitler body to become Bill Clinton.


The third is Bill Clinton, who has already gotten a number of people killed. Islamo-fascist-terrorist murderers are his troops now.

As Clinton, the Antichrist worked to destroy the American industrial might, disarm the American military, disarm the American people, and furnish all of our newest and best weapons and technology to our worst enemy - the Islamo-fascist-terrorist murderers who consider him to be theirs. They don’t yet know that Clinton is the Antichrist they worship.

To disarm the American military, “President Clinton” shut down production of the cruise missiles which are our main naval weapon. He sent our ships all over the world for us to waste our cruise missiles


To destroy our industrial might, the Antichrist used high taxes, tax increases, vetoing tax reform, and the global warming hoax to shut down our factories.

From the L.A. Times
1. 42% of all workers in L.A.County ( out of 10.2 million people) are working for cash and NOT paying taxes. This is be cause they are predominantly illegal immigrants working without a green card.

2. 96% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.

3. 78% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.

4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal , whose births were paid for by taxpayers.

5. Nearly 40% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.

6.Over 350,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.

7. The FBI reports half of all gang member s in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.

8. Nearly 70% of all occupants of HUD[government subsidized] properties are illegal.

9. 21 radio stations in L.A. are Spanish speaking.

10. In L.A. County 5.1 million people speak English, 4.3 million speak Spanish.
(There are 10.2 million people in L.A. County. )

I live in Texas. I am sure it is almost as bad.

Clutch - stop the liberal namecalling
With morons like Clutch ranting it's more like the Liberal Namecalling Forum in this message string. You far left wackos, can go back to shooting yourselves in the head so you don't have to think.

For everyone else, let's go over it agian.

1. A two party system will decide the upcoming election. So anybody who doesn't belong to these socialism parties can go screw yourselves. Is that correct Clutch?

2) You only have 2 choices. Facism or Socialism is that right Clutch?

3) Your choice will be between the lesser of two evils. So either way you are voting for evil is that correct Clutch?

4. A vote with-held is in fact a vote for the greater of evils. So not voting for evil means the moral voter is actually voting for the greater evil. Is that gight Clutch?

Clutch says: "I guarentee that he will listen to you more than Hillary/Obama when he gets elected. So, just pull the lever next to the "R" and start writing letters to John telling him what you think."

I have been writing McCain and his advisors asking why he is still for Amnesty when the MAJORITY of LEGAL Americans are against it. They tell me they don't need my vote and that I am in the minority.

So Clutch stop going against McCain and asking us to vote for him. McCain doesn't need our votes to win.

So Clutch WHO do you believe McCain or yourself?


Oh wait most of McCain's advisors are

Oh wait most of McCain's advisors are lobbyists and McCain's Reform Institute was given MILLIONS by George Soro's (who also gave MILLIONS MoveOn.org).

So McCain trusts his lobbyist advisors more than he will ever trust the Conservative base.

So why would we ever trust him with our sacred vote?

McCain
I don't think he cares to make points about the economy I think he is so ignorant and cocky he thinks he will win on his policy of war. Although we need to know how to handle the war. It is not the major concern for America. The Bush Fear strategy will not work at this stage of the game. McCain better get some brilliant advisers soon, most of America isn't buying what he's selling. Just my opinion of course.

THE EDUCATION OF A STUPID JERK

.....SJ Doc ....

.....1. Most politicians are crooks at heart ...

.....2. Most voters are clueless ignoramouses ...

.....3. #2 explains # 1 ...

.....4. Most legislation is garbage, unconstitutional, payoffs to special interests and damaging to the Country ...

.....5. It is the duty of the minority that is cognizant (that's me) to resist this degradation and to try to preserve the Republic ...

.....6. It is the stupid jerks (that's you PUTZIE) who throw their hands in the air and are willing to allow Socialism to take control of the Government ...

.....COLOSSUS

ABM
Again, those delusional types in our midst, like old Clutch, miss the point. McCain is a disaster to anybody with a brain and certainly to many of us Independents who will decide this election.
1. Terrorism isn't our biggest problem and he is no more competent in that area than anyone else running. In thinking that the war in Iraq is somehow keeping us safe from Al Qaeda shows how truly clueless he is. They are everywhere and the many attacks that have been foiled prove that we have not 'tied them down' over there.
2. It's the economy stupid and yet here's a guy who wants to spend a few Trillion more in Iraq, fix health care and Soc. Sec. AND lower taxes??? Are you kidding? It's simple addition, WE CAN'T AFFORD it, it's NOT possible.
3. I will take government health care if it means that I and 40 million or so other Americans can get health care before it's too late. It's a disgrace and only people who have a fat insurance plan (that will screw them the first chance they have: HEalthNet) think government involvement is a bad idea.
4. How about NO amnesty for illegal aliens. I'm sorry but enough of this helping everyone else when the citizenry of this country is suffering from economic havoc.
5. The stupid statement about the Supreme Court going liberal under a Dem. is assinine. This court will see very little change for the next 20 years. The oldest members are the more liberal ones. Alioto, Thomas, Alito et al are young and not going anywhere. What an idiot.

Brett
Bill Clinton is the anti-christ? Because a midaevil fortune-teller told you so?

Napoleon? Hitler?

Do you think Nostradamus was as Eurocentric as you are? This isn't a flat earth, hate to break it to you. The world doesn't drop off at the borders of Kosovo.

Don't worry, won't stay, this entire thread is too wacked to even be amusing.


Oh, and
if anybody is curious about who makes up the conservative right, I can just show them these posts.

Touj - Actually, Waco Willie is jus...
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...the Antichrist's midwest regional marketing manager, and could be up for a severance package in the next round of Satanic downsizing.

The temptation to read too much into Nostradamus' tea leaves has always been a pitfall among those of us who look into the Evil Party for the obvious signs of Beelzebub's guiding hand.




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"When we got organized as a country and we wrote a fairly radical Constitution with a radical Bill of Rights, giving a radical amount of individual freedom to Americans, it was assumed that the Americans who had that freedom would use it responsibly.... [However, now] there's a lot of irresponsibility. And so a lot of people say there's too much freedom. When personal freedom's being abused, you have to move to limit it."

-- Bill Clinton (on the subject of freedom)

baseballdoc - 'cognizant' or concussed?
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Let's see; baseballdoc is perfectly willing to bend over before John McCain and the "Rockefeller Republican" RNC - presently peddling "socialism lite" - praying for Vaseline while getting ready to have it shoved up his tochus yet another time in his long, long life....

And *I'm* supposed to have thrown my "...hands in the air...willing to allow Socialism to take control of the Government," right?

Has anyone else visiting this forum come to the conclusion that baseballdoc's posts constitute perfect documentation for his total and permanent SSI disability status on straightforward mental grounds alone?





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"The American political system is like a gigantic Mexican Christmas fiesta. Each political party is a huge pinata - a papier-mache donkey, for example. The donkey is filled with full employment, low interest rates, affordable housing, comprehensive medical benefits, a balanced budge and other goodies. The American voter is blindfolded and given a stick. The voter then swings the stick wildly in every direction, trying to hit a political candidate on the head and knock some sense into the silly b------d."

- P.J. O'Rourke

The Rule of Law
SJ Doc's reliance on the 14h Amendment over the 13th is telling. The 13th, proposed by a Republican Congress 1/31/1865 and ratified 12/6/65, outlawed slavery and involuntary servitude. Lincoln's stand against slavery in the Lincoln-Douglas debates and at Coopers Union is not mentioned, nor are the many Republicans who backed him to the death who did so to preserve the Union and to outlaw slavery, at least in the North. The Roger Taney Supreme Court 1857 Dred Scott decision had made slavery legal in all states and declared the black man a mere chattel, like horse or a dog, ineligible to vote.

The 14th Amendment on the other hand has been used to foster an alien invasion by creating anchor babies; and to make the Bill of Rights binding on the States, something - beyond a reasonable doubt - the Congress never intended. So much for "the defense of individual rights and the concept of civil government under rule of law." Where in the Constitution is judicial amendment sanctioned? It isn't, except by agreement by conduct of all three branches (otherwise known in criminal law as conspiracy). And let us never forget that the separation of church and state judicial amendment, overturning 150 years of precedent without comment, and in direct contradiction thereof, was created by 9 Masonic Democrats, one an ex Ku Klux clansman. Nor only did the court not follow precedent, the rule of law, it did not follow the intent of Congress in drafting the 14th Amendment, another rule of law. Further, it fraudulently twisted Jefferson’s words to the Danbury, Conn. Baptists to infer support for separation of church and state, despite Jefferson regularly attending Christian services at the Capitol on Sundays during his presidency and not ever being a member of the Constitutional Convention.

Ray - Didn't read the link, didja?
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No further comment needed.


For more information pertinent to the Fourteenth Amendment's impact upon the Second Amendment (where the issue of BoR restrictions imposed upon the governments of the several states is particularly important), other readers are advised to consider:

1) http://www.stephenhalbrook.com/freedman.html

2) http://www.tysknews.com/Depts/2nd_Amend/fourteenth_amend.h tm

3) http://law.bepress.com/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5660&co ntext=expresso

...among many, many, many other sources of scholarly discussion.

Ray, you just keep on digging that funky stuff out of your navel and searching it for insights.

Go with your well-practiced aptitudes, okay?





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"[T]he Clinton administration launched an attack on people in Texas because those people were religious nuts with guns. Hell, this country was *founded* by religious nuts with guns. Who does Bill Clinton think stepped ashore on Plymouth Rock? Peace Corps volunteers?"

-- P.J. O'Rourke









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"As I sit in my poverty-stricken home, looking at the place where the piano used to be before I had to sell it to pay my income-tax, I find myself in thoughtful mood. The first agony of the separation from my hard-earned, so to speak income, is over, and I can see that I was unjust in my original opinion of the United States Government. At first, I felt toward the U.S.G. as I would feel toward any perfect stranger who insinuated himself into my home and stood me on my head and went through my pockets. The only difference I could see between the U.S.G. and the ordinary practitioner in a black mask was that the latter occasionally left his victim carfare."

-- P.G. Wodehouse

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