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Thursday, December 13, 2007
Matt Towery :: Townhall.com Columnist
The Silent Forces That Will Shape the '08 Political Landscape
by Matt Towery
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Those who read this column know well that on any given day, I might seem more conservative or more liberal. The fact is that my years of being involved in American politics, and my more recent years of polling and commenting on it, allow me to share different views from all sides of the political spectrum.

When I wrote last week that cash for votes is a likelihood in Iowa, few readers seemed shocked. Yet it's the rare political writer who will confront the reality of these kinds of things going on behind the scenes.

So this week I want to focus on some of the supposedly "non-biased" organizations and groups that, in their own ways, will influence how we think and vote in the upcoming election cycle.

First, for the most controversial and tough-to-pin-down groups -- religious ones. For those with disdain for the so-called religious right, let me calm you by reminding you that the strength of the various "nonprofits" that somehow find their leaders backing certain presidential candidates has been greatly diminished. This is partly because of the semi-retirement or death of some of their more prominent leaders. It's also a result of a territorial split that has virtually every "Christian conservative" group backing a different GOP candidate.

Christian organizations are not the only religious groups that will try to play a role in this year's presidential contest. While candidate Barack Obama is Christian, there has been at least anecdotal evidence that he is popular with Muslims in the U.S.

Don't think for a minute this hasn't occurred to other Democratic presidential campaigns, which are doubtless tempted to tie to "organized religion" the huge number of $100 and lesser contributions made over the Internet to Obama's campaign. The key being, of course, that this organized religion "for" Obama might not be his own, but instead Islam.

Then there are the seemingly disinterested think tanks and foundations that supply endless facts and, sometimes, polling data to the media.

We all know about conservative think tanks, such as the Heritage Foundation and others, that are identified by the media almost without hesitation as being "right-wing."

But for every organization like Newt Gingrich's American Solutions, or the well-established Heritage Foundation, there is a liberal corollary that somehow is never identified as being liberal.

The way it works is that journalists, debate panelists, political commentators and others will put huge disclaimers on any work done by a "conservative" foundation or nonprofit, while treating information from longer-standing but left-leaning organizations as being above reproach for political bias.

In his recently published book, "Foundations of Betrayal," author and commentator Phil Kent meticulously mines the history of foundations and organizations that are often used by candidates or the media when analyzing issues or establishing "the facts."

In his book, Kent chronicles how apparently benign groups such as the Ford Foundation, the Pew Charitable Trusts and the Carnegie Foundation, to name a few, have immense influence over government policy and public opinion.

Yet their work seems predicated less on the kind of dispassionate research one expects from centers for research and policy, and more on a particular political philosophy -- liberal philosophy.

Nevertheless, the work of these big-name institutions can be found in newspaper articles, polls and "white papers" (issues papers) that often are presented as gospel truth by journalists or politicians.

Just like so much in this world, these organizations and those who rely on their information have a huge double standard. These founts of information aren't made to submit themselves to scrutiny meant to uncover their biases and don't have their information flagged with disclaimers when it's circulated by media and others. Liberal research is often treated as fact, in other words, and conservative research as conjecture or propaganda.

As you watch political coverage in the coming presidential election year, especially on TV networks known to feel more comfortable to the left of the political center, make note of who they cite as sources for their "facts," data and polling.

You may even want to extend your vigilance to the commentary from these networks' "experts." Twice now I've seen network analysts declare John McCain the winner of a GOP presidential debate, right after McCain's debate answers nearly got him booed off the stage.

Incompetence or intellectual dishonesty isn't pretty, whether it comes from the left or right.

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Tampa Dave
That was plain and simple and you hit the nail on the head, the rest of the world is not our problem and should fend for themselfs.We waste billions of Tax payers Money on Foreign Alliances,it should be spent here on the problems that face Americans,like Illegal Aliens,Health care,social Security,Education and so on, but don't be fooled by our Liberal Socialist Hitlary who Spews out that she is the Cure that ails this Country.She is what I produce while sitting on my throne reading, and best of all I get to flush it right where it belongs.She is a big steaming pile of DUNG!!!!

There are no liberals
"Liberal research is often treated [by the media] as fact, in other words, and conservative research as conjecture or propaganda."

That's because liberals don't conside themselves liberal or Left; they are "centrists," "middle-of-the-road," "moderate," etc.

Robert
I've see your posts frequently and they are always followed by this Anne person screaming at you. Did you stand her up at the prom or something? Wow. She's really upset. Should I inform her that this is only a website on the internet? Sun comes up...sun goes down.

Towery makes a good case...
...for the GOP candidates to form together and have their own debates. If no network will sponsor it then they could do it on the internet.
As it now stands the GOP candidates are being used, duped and manipulated by left biased members of the MSM who are in fact working for the dem's. DD

roberto the FAKE, FRAUD, & LIAR!

This is NOT rocket science....


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Is this the same Navy Capt Robert?
Robert, you say Clinton was only wrong about the little things he was not wrong about Iraq? Do you know anything? President Bush has said nothing that Bill Clinton did not say first. And President Clinton made it the policy of the United States to get rid of Saddam Hussein. How can you say Bush was wrong and not also agree that Clinton was wrong on the same subject.

On another post you say we were correct to push Saddam out of Iraq, but apparently our authority ended at the border. How ridiculous does that sound echoing through your head? The only thing we did wrong in this war was we put it off until now. We should have completed it then regardless of the loss of allied support. And we were legally and morally justified in continuing it now. The only difference is now my son is fighting it instead of me. But this time we will get it right and not be forced to leave troops sitting in SA for decades.

You are wrong on so many things. I really do hope you are not actually a military officer. That would embarrass me.

MAJGross

Robert
For once, I have to agree with you. Nation-building is wrong. I never wanted to invade Iraq, though I thought Afghanistan was an appropriate target. Darfur? Not my problem either. Countries should be free to determine their own form of government. Why should I care if some Third World country wants to maintain a dictatorship, imprison their citizenry, torture rival factions, etc.? If you harbor terrorist organizations actively targeting the United States, however, then you fall under the Red White and Blue rifle sight. Otherwise, let the Third World nations rise or fall on their own. Absent negative impact on US interests, who cares what happens in Mickey Mousia?

Propaganda as "fact" at PBS
Excellent article. For one specific example of one-sided propaganda presented as fact on our taxpayer funded "Public" Broadcasting System network, please read this article by Ken Bode, Ombudsman at the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, regarding a program entitled "Breaking the Silence: Children's Stories: http://www.cpb.org/ombudsmen/display.php?id=10

Also, read the very first article by the very first ombudsman at PBS itself: http://www.pbs.org/ombudsman/2005/12/introduction_and_brea king_the_silence.html

Proud Liberal...
...let me clear things up a bit. The US invaded Grenada a couple of days after Islamo-Fascists killed 280+/- Marines with a truck bomb in Beirut, Lebanon in 1983. This was during his first term. The Iran/Contra circus began during his second term in 1986-87. Please get your timeline straight. Even 'Wikipedia' has it right so there is no excuse.

Mitt Romney
Mitt Romney successfully ran Bain & Company, the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, and the Salt Lake City Olympics. Experience counts. Mitt Romney also believes in a strong traditional family, the sanctity of life, a strong defense, and individual accountability. Democrats? Only Bill Richardson ran anything substantial via his gubernatorial experience in New Mexico. All the liberal Dems support non-traditional family structures (single motherhood, everyone in the government "village") over traditional families; pro-abortion stances with little or no limitation; income re-distribution; a reduced military to pay for social engineering programs; Kumbaya hold-hands diplomacy over Teddy Roosevelt's big stick policy; universities for both teachers and government workers equivalent to present day military academies. Just the tip of the iceberg.

Democratic Debate
Vote Democrat if you like higher taxes, greater federal involvement in your life, class war, and life in a fantasy world (lets hold hands, sing Kumbaya, watch the troubles of the world disappear). Specifically? Vote Obama because he has the blessing of Oprah, A Talk Show Host Who Cannot Pick A Decent Administrator For Her African School. Experience not necessary. Vote Clinton if you believe her debate commitment to a "transparent presidency" and her ability to unite America. Vote Edwards if you think America is divided among the rich corporate elite and millions and millions and millions of poor, starving Third World Americans desperately roaming the streets. Robert and all other liberal TH posters, I despise your liberal Democratic candidates even more with each new public appearance.

pianogirl, the Fox News graph that
plays during the debates, is a trailing indicator. And it's quite a lag, so I see why you're confused.

As to Fox being Republican, yeah, I see how folks might be confused. They only have 66% of their commentators as Dems, or RINO's, instead of the usual 95% for all the other stations.

We all know the news is slanted, and it is widely accepted as true - even in the MSM, so there's no real need to keep harping on it, but it does bear repeating when they also skew the results of Polls so blatantly, and often.

Right now, they're telling us the guy they support wins every debate, and discount everyone they don't want to win. This is blatant, and I can usually tell you who each reporter will claim won - before the debate even starts, as it is that blatant.

McCain is actually drawing Boos from the crowd, and he's still being held up as the Come back kid by his shills in the media, and I can't begin to tell you how much NO ONE wants Rudy or Romney, and yet the Media all swear they won every debate in a landslide.

Now they're on to Huckabee. How ridiculous.

They were all wrong before, and they will find they're wrong again, in the next few weeks. I'm voting for Fred Thompson in the NH primaries, and I don't care who they tell me will win.

He's right on all the issues, and he still has a shot.


Hmmmm?
quote:
“Do we have that right? Do we have the right to just go around the world deciding what parts of it we want to make "better" and what parts of it we will ignore”

Of course we do. It’s our money,
==================

Nope, it isn't our money. We borrowed it from trust funds and foreign lenders. Then we have to answer to those lenders when we don't do what they want or expect of us.

If we were a free nation, we could do whatever we want. But, we are a servant to debt both internally and externally and sinking fast.

The B.S. that it is the media sending us into a recession while in fact it is decades of bad policies catching up to us is doing more damage than good. Millions of Americans are going to keep their personal debt and paying 24% interest on their maxed out credit cards than any slowdown will turn into a recession. The consumers are not prepared for anything close to a recession, let alone a recession.

It isn't the economy as it stands now but the economy the consumer and his debt and the hundreds of thousands of layoffs starting to emerge from the credit problems, and slowing of spending to spend for food and energy, that is important.

All the indicators that are saying strong economy are lagging indicators. Business and consumers are cutting back by choice in some cases but out of necessity in other cases where the absence of home equity loans and maxed out credit cards is starting to take their toll.

The Right
“Do we have that right? Do we have the right to just go around the world deciding what parts of it we want to make "better" and what parts of it we will ignore”

Of course we do. It’s our money, and our army. If there is a national interest for us, we have the right to defend that interest.
But beyond that, will you also argue that the UN has no right telling us and others what to do with our money? Does the UN have the right to tell us to cripple our economy and take our money in the name of “global warming?” (or climate change, or Gore’s Crusade, or whatever it is called this week?)
Does Mexico have the right to tell us we cannot close the border? Do they have the right to demand OUR aid money in exchange for nothing?
Does China have the right to tell us that we cannot support Taiwan?
Does Russia have the right to tell us not to pursue Iran?

“Why Iraq not Darfur for instance?”

Do I take it from this that you would support a massive increase in funding and recruitment for the military so that we have the troops and equipment to go to Darfur?
Or would you suggest leaving Iraq and going to Darfur? What gives you the right to decide what part of the world we want to make better?

religiouslib
I agree with you that we have been divided by the elites who control both parties, and the MSM is complicit in this division as well. In fact, the DEM/GOP/MSM propaganda machines are working full time this election to make sure that power remains with the elites. It doesn't make much difference which party wins to the MSM, they always share in the power and they like it that way.

The entire election process has been rigged to assure the elites power, and the liberal/conservative ideological battle is simply a tool that they use to keep the people off guard. Coupled with their big lie tactic where they repeat over and over that only "they" can govern because only they have knowledge, wisdom, and experience, the elites have created the perfect conditions for keeping power.

It is up to us in this election to resist these two false premises and reclaim the inheritance that has been stolen from us. In 2008 we need to send a message to the elites that they cannot miss; we are tired of their corrupt ways and the continued dimunition of our freedoms and sell out of our national sovereignty!

We are the rightful owners of this nation and we can reassert our authority by denying the elites that which they desire above all else, the Presidency. If you are interested in how we can accomplish this and restore Constitutional limited government to our great nation, I urge you to visit my website, JOEOLIVAFORPRESIDENT.ORG. You will not be disappointed, hopefully encouraged. The elites have stolen our birthright, exactly when are we going to do something about that rather than once again voting the lesser of two evils? It is a question that each of us must answer. Thanks, Joe

descriptive times
It is the age of conservative adgectives.
They're all the fasion rage these days.

Conclusion
If Iraq becomes semi-democratic, it will preserve the Iraqi union creaated after WW I, prove a partner for Lebanon (the only other Middle Eastern Arab democracy), maybe a partner evgentually for Israel (the Middle East's first dem.), a model for Afghanistan and Pakistan, and hope for Saudis, Egyptians, and Jordanians.

Should not others share the kind of freedom and individualism the West has developed. Should only the few people who blog here be the only free peoples and let the rest of the world be damned?

Iraq has a Western history tied to its former position as part of Persia, when it was a British colony, and that its former dynasty from King Feisal was establish after WW I by an alliance with the French and British against the Ottoman Empire (see Lawrence of Arabia).

Darfur is a true civil war perpetuated by black Muslims against black Christians, and the Sudan was also once a British colony (along with Egypt), but Darfur's geological position makes it tougher to get at and forces us into an anti-Muslim conflict that no African peace keepers or UN peace keepers have been able to ameliorate. That's why we aren't in Darfur, except as peace keepers with other organizations.

Yes, Robert, great powers
have the right.

Greek hegemony in the Hellentitic period spread the ideals of democracy, theatre, education, and the arts of war from today's Albania to India.

The Romans spread the "civitas", or importance of political civility, citizenship, proto-nationhood, and civilization. Someone not born Greek could ever be Greek, but conquered peoples could join the Roman army, serve 20 years, and become citizens and retire with farms and pensions.

The European colonists spread the concepts of law, rights, medicine, education, arts, and literature worldwide.

For all of colonial depredation, India is the great democracy it is from the British Raj. Indonesia grew out of colonialism, China and Japan were dragged kicking and screaming into the world of commerce by colonists throughout the far East. A Scot founded Hong Kong. The horrors of African slavery, unfortunately, was spread to the international scale, but the whole business practice started on the W. African Gold Coast.

The US alone has helped free 1.5 billion since 1863. Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation freed 3.94 million slaves in the US South. In emulation, Czar Alexander II of Russia freed his serfs, c. 47 million people.

When the US won the Spn-Am. War in 1898, Spain's loss freed 10-12 million slaves in South Am. Our win freed the rest around the world.

In WW I, we saved 369n million (pop. 1918) and in WW II, we saved 738 million (pop. 1950), AND created the Marshall Plan to restore Europe, saving millions from literal starvation.

In Korea, we saved 2.36 million from the Korean north which has a national policy of starvation. In Iraq, we liberated 24,000,000 in a country twice the size of CA with 150,000 troops.


It's the Economy, Stupid
It's time, just watch the MSM as they begin to aggressively try to "spin" the country into a perceived recession. The Clinton machine uses the same proven strategies over and over. Since they are convinced that Hillary will be the nominee (they are probably correct), now is the time to begin convincing the American people that "we are in the worst economy in 50 years" and only massive tax increases and the genius of Hillary will save us all. The liberal propaganda machine (Goebbels would be proud, even the Third Reich did not build such a powerful "machine") can actually negatively impact the economy, since people's perception can drive economic activity. For example, the sub-prime mortgage mess is not nearly as severe as it is being spun. Just look at the percentages of foreclosures, etc. The basic issue is that nobody knows where the bad loans are and the banks and investors cannot value their holdings. And, yes there was a housing price bubble now being deflated as well it should. But, only negative press can drive us into a recession - which will benefit Hillary and her co-President, Bill.

RALPH ELLISON

.....I cannot die ...I can only crash .....COLOSUS

here is the problem
as americans we have become so divided by politicians and wedge issues that we now seek only media that reinforces our pre-concieved opinions rather than educate ourselves on both sides of an issue.

both conservative and liberal media can be biased and the only way to determine that is to read or listen to both.

anyone who relies soley on one or the other is getting only half of the facts.

read the washington post and the washington times
watch oreilly and olbermann
listen to rush and shultz.

you will find a balance.

just a personal note, i find the most objective and fair newscast to be the "the lerher report"
on pbs.
now before you scream about pbs being left leaning this show offers both sides to every story in an intellecutal, non-confrontational manner.

it is on 7 p.m. on the coasts, i am not sure what time in the middle of the country.


baseballdoc
I thought you had died. Damn!!!!!!!

VIRGINIA PATRIOT

.....The MSM is not going to give Hunter positive coverage and he has not been able to distinguish himself in the so-called debates ...

.....After SC I would suggest that Hunter start lobbying for the VP slot .....this would put him a heartbeat from the Presidency and strange things happen ...

.....who would have thought that when Nixon was elected that Ford would end up as President? .....COLOSSUS

RALPH ELLISON

.....NEWS FLASH ...Kareem Abdul Jabbar was popular with Muslims ...

.....Are you going to watch the Foreskins get skinned by the Cowboys on 12/30 or are you going to put a paper bag over your head as I suggested? .....COLOSSUS

At least twice
leftist mederators have framed republican debate with democrat type questions.

There seems to be an effort to keep the real issues of Iraq and the democrat role in it, taxes and immigration out of the debates and away from voter interest.

None-the-less these issues are circulating and so I wonder if real surprises are out there in the outcome of the actual voting.

Maldain
I read something the other day that I hadn't noticed before. The day after Iran Contra broke Reagan invaded Greneda. Coincidence, of course.

WHAT'S THE PUNCH LINE?

.....Matt ...If there was a point to your article you kept it well hidden ...

.....Do you agree or disagree that the MSM want a Democrat to be elected and therefore slant their coverage accordingly to achieve this end? .....COLOSSUS

Robert, a question
Did it bother you when President Clinton fired missiles at office buildings and murdered cleaning women and janitors just to get the Lewinsky mess off the front page? It seems to me that since both political parties use military force I'd rather that force be used to make the world a bit better instead of to kill a bunch of working stiffs just for head lines.

HUNTER FOR AMERICA

Securing the border and enforcing the law is the only way we get to keep our rule of law, our representative Republic, and our Constitution. We must elect a President who WILL secure the border and enforce the law. If citizenship becomes meaningless, this will no longer be the United States of America.

The so-called "top tier" will not get out the voters necessary for a GOP win. Increasing turnout is the key. Give people something to vote for. Not just the lesser of two evils. Won't work this time. People are fed up with the inundation of illegal aliens. They would come out in droves for the clear choice of D=amnesty or R=enforcement. They will stay home if they both equal amnesty.

There is a huge majority of American citizens waiting for someone to pledge to uphold the laws and secure the borders, let's not ignore them any more.

http://www.gohunter08.com

What is this?
A list of the advertisers on NPR?

I found this funny....
"While candidate Barack Obama is Christian, there has been at least anecdotal evidence that he is popular with Muslims in the U.S"

Ohh NOOOOOO!!!!!!! Muslims vote!!!!!! They like Barack!!!!!! What is the world coming too!!!!!!!!!!

Lol!!!!!!!!!!!!

You cons crack me up.

Robert
Couldn't care less about Clinton's sexual habits. But he wasn't investigated for that. He was investigated for lying under oath. Yup, that still bothers me big time.

I don't really care but...
You are wrong about the graph, which lagged the speaker.
I watched it very carefully, and if you did so you would have found that it flatlined as each new candidate began to speak.

The universe IS 13 billion years old
Human beings have conventions about knowing how we know what we know. The convention is that if people around the world of different religious and political persuasions agree on something - like what is "blue or red" then that thing is true.

The problem with conservatives arguing that main stream think tanks are "left leaning" is that conservatives maintain that everyone who agrees that something is blue is "left leaning." Conservative prefer: "Well the science is still out on whether blue is really blue and there's a guy at the Heritage Foundation who thinks that those who see blue when its there are politically motivated."

Gray Ghost I agree
with respect to the election being about SCOTUS appointees. After all, it's the reason I voted for Bush. And will most likely vote for a republican I despise in '08, on the promise of nominating constructionist judges.

And God help that nominee if they lie!!!

Do You Want To Keep Your Country?




We must elect someone who will not try to shove "Comprehensive Immigration Reform", amnesty, down our throats. We tried that once in 1986 and it failed miserably. We now have 10 times the number of illegal aliens. We will either elect a President who will uphold the laws or one who will change them to accomodate the illegal aliens. If we do the latter, we are voluntarily committing national suicide.

You forgot the Fox News graphometer
My favorite device has got to be the Fox News graph that plays during the debates, and magically moves up or down EVEN BEFORE THE CANDIDATES ANSWER A QUESTION.

Now, that's something to definitely put stock in. I guess those that run Fox News are getting desperate.

Ron Paul 2008


Compared to the Clintons...
Bush has brought "honor" back to the White House.

Sorry, but Robert has it wrong and knows it.

This election will NOT be about the Bush administration (even as much as the Dumocrats want it to be); it will be about the future (SCOTUS appointees, etc.).

You have to assume
whatever source in the MSM--the NYTimes, Harvard, Rand, yadda--is leftist whacko.
Rand circulated, during Watergate, a "study" that if Nixon was left in office, he would abolish habeas corpus and declare a national emergency and never have presidential elections again.
Maybe the National Review countered such nonsense then, but there was no internet or FOX or alternate cons. media to disparage it.
Eventually, Al Gore and his global warming green-house nonsense will be countered here on places like TH where ordinary people have read the 1.2 million hits on solar system warming on Google and know the sun is in a period of higher radiation and the ENTIRE solar system and its moons are warming.
No CO2 or car exhaust or any other manmade problem needs to be legislated into oblivion or taxed to death to stop something that isn't happening.

BARACK OBAMA
OBAMA WAS RAISED A BLACK MUSLIM. YOUR THE FIRST ONE TO CALL HIM A CHRISTIAN. JOINING A CHURCH FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES DOESN'T MAKE YOU A CHRISTIAN. CHECK OUT HIS BIOGRAPHY.

Yeah it's pretty well obvious
I've been paying attention to politics for a long time and I learned this lesson on day one; The media intentional mischaracterizes or even lies about conservatives while building up liberals because they have a bias. There, I just said in one sentence what it took this guy the whole article. The difference today is that the drive-by's are more ardently leftist because they now have competition in the new media. In today's world the media elite (ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, NPR, CNN, MSNBC, NY Times, USA Today, etc.) view conservatism as weird and abnormal, while simaltaneously viewing liberalism as just normal. But so what? We've known this for a long, long time. I say instead of complaining about the media we gird our loins and BEAT them.

Robert, get a life dude.

Watch the birdie
It's simple to do.
Every time you have a lefty icon about to undergo deserved scrutiny, the lefty press pulls out another item deemed to be critical for the public to know,(although why it wasn't relevant for the public to know that the press had this tidbit for months, or even years) just in time to defuse public focus.
It will be interesting to see how much dirt the media has kept buried about democrats for the last seven years, although we won't find out just what that was for another decade or so, when a democrat ticks off the New York Slimes enough for them to retaliate.

Matt, some friendly advice.....
write about something we don't already know. I spent the whole article waiting for the "A-ha" and in the end all I had to say was "Well duh".

Sleight of hand
Now you see it, now you dont. And with your fingers (or your iPod) jammed in your ears, you cannot hear it either.

There are always plenty of people who believe that they can have everything they want and someone else will be forced to pay, and the snake oil salesman who gathers theme in is only doing his job.

Robert, the politics of Neener Neener Neener do not become you. Grow up.

Magic Is In The Slight Of Hand.
Out of Sight, out of mind.

Don't you think this if something the Liberals do not want us to know? To late now, no magic and no poof in the magic 2008 elections now.

That is great!

Robert
Was this article even about this administration? I'll answer for you - no, it wasn't. You are awfully quick to call others incompetent, but surely you must realize that you're not even competent enough to stay on topic even when there aren't other posters to confuse you.

Robert
Was this article even about this administration? I'll answer for you - no, it wasn't. You are awfully quick to call others incompetent, but surely you must realize that you're not even competent enough to stay on topic even when there aren't other posters to confuse you.
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