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Thursday, July 17, 2008
Matt Purple :: Townhall.com Columnist
Senators Call for the Closing of Guantanamo
by Matt Purple
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The Guantanamo Bay detainee prison in Cuba seems to have few fans among Senate lawmakers these days.

Several senators spoke out against Guantanamo at a Judiciary Committee hearing on Wednesday, calling for the facility to be shut down and assailing the Bush administration’s policy on prisoners of war.

“We cannot defeat terrorism by abandoning our basic American principles and values,” said Senator Patrick Leahy (D-Vt.). “With the pictures from Abu Ghraib and tales of unjustified detentions and torture, we have provided our enemies with a recruiting field day.”

“Adopting a detainee policy that reflects our values would mean closing Guantanamo, giving detainees due process and releasing those who should never have been there in a timely and responsible manner,” he added.

Leahy claimed that between one-half and one-third of the Guantanamo prisoners had no connection to terrorism, citing the journalist Jane Mayer as his source.

Senator Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.) worried that Guantanamo would haunt the United States’ international reputation for the foreseeable future.

“I’m a fisherman and there are some problems that are very difficult to unsnarl. You can spend hours trying to undo a knot in your line that took thirty seconds to make. I think that Guantanamo is going to be very difficult to unsnarl,” he said.

Criticism of Guantanamo mounted in 2006 when three of its detainees committed suicide and several military lawyers testified before Congress that interrogation techniques had been used that violated the guidelines in the Army field manual. Gradually, more and more senators have stepped forward to suggest shutting down the facility altogether.

And Gitmo’s detractors are not all Democrats. Senator Arlen Specter (R-Penn.) said that alleged detainee abuses have tarred America’s reputation.

“The issues that arise from Guantanamo, I fear, are going to be with the U.S. for a long time,” he said.

Republican presidential aspirant Senator John McCain also wants to scrap the Guantanamo facility.

The committee hearing was generally a chorus of Guantanamo criticisms. Chairman Leahy even titled the meeting, “How the Administration’s Failed Detainee Policies Have Hurt the Fight Against Terrorism.”

Senator John Kyl (R-Ariz.) – the lone dissenter present -- ridiculed the name as thoroughly partisan and accused his colleagues of unfairly smearing the Bush administration’s efforts to keep the country safe.

“The rights even before the Supreme Court decision [of Boumediene v. Bush] that we gave to detainees were far greater than any other nation on earth has ever given to detainees,” he said.

Congress has never voted on closing Guantanamo before, although last year the Senate voted 94-3 on an amendment to oppose any efforts to relocate the prison to the continental United States, which many have said would provide greater transparency. Leahy was one of the few who voted against the amendment.

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Matt Purple is an editorial intern with Townhall.com and is studying politics at Catholic University.
obama and mccain agree
that gitmo should be closed down so it will be accomplished no matter who is elected.

Me too... But !
But those Proven hate America MOSTLY AL QUADA Terrorist have to be released around those same Liberal Neighborhoods . Especially those 81 Jews in Congress and NY city , Chicago , Detroit , DC ., LA , San Francisco , Settle , Vermont , Mass and of course Miami !
I am sure they can be hooked up with Suicide bombs and Big AUTOMATIC HIGH CALIBER GUNS in the the HOOD .
All they have to do is go on the net ..... Most of the Bomb making MATERIAL can be bought at the LOWES , FARM STORES AND LOCAL DRUG STORES .Cell phones can be easily used without a Fisa court ruling ..Too late... later ... getting a Fisa rulling !Booms can comde in Minutes when the GO AHEARD IS GIVEN .....DUH !
DRIVERS LINC. ARE NO PROBLEM OBVIOUSLY OR IS WELFARE , HOUSING AND FOOD STAMPS NOT TO MENTION COLLEGES WAITING ARMS FOR FREE WITH NO ENTRANCE EXAMS .MANY THERE WANT TO HEAR THEIR HATE AMERICA RANTS LIKE CLERIC DO NOW IN ENGLAND , FRANCE , DENMARK , HOLLAND AND GERMANY
IT IS OBVIOUS THE IMATES AND WILD ZOO ANIMALS ARE RUNNING THE ZOO AND CONGRESS !
HE WHO AIDES OUR ENEMIES IS MY ENEMY AS WELL ....
THE ART OF WAR

Follow the Geneva Convention
We should close gitmo, by following the GC, and execute all unlawful combatants in the field. The Political firestorm is not worth the hassle to our faithful military guardians of detainees. A few well placed rounds = no wounded, no detainee', and it is all legal by international law.

Our Enemies only understand Strength and Resolve. Which is lacking in US foreign policy.

Gitmo
should be shut down and move all those war criminals to the Republic of MexiFornia,(with the most going to HomoFrisco) and ofcourse some to HomChusettes.

That could work like that stuff they put in other septic tanks.

Shut it down.
It's shameful that we have allowed a torture center to flourish as a solution to our problems.

We should treat the criminals as such - present the evidence against them in a trial and sentence them according to proven guilt.

Anything less is barbaric. And karma has this *excellent* tendency to cash in later down the line.

Keep It Open!!!
Reserve a cell for Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld and, just to make me happy, Lush Rimbaugh (Club Gitmo) Only thusly may thoust mericns regain trust of non mericns.

gitmo
We are at war. A war we did not start. To bad al-queda didn't blow up the dumbocrats in congress.

al-qauda has declared war aginest us. how many axis p.o.w.'sued in wwll?

Shut it down
Assemble a firing squad, read the charges openly from the geneva conventions on non uniformed combatants and be done with it. Give them all an open trench burial. Oh yea, sprinkle pigs blood on them first.
If this sounds brutal Oh well, thats war.

What is the problem?
Feed them pork chops, greens and corn bread.
Good soul food never hurt anybody.
Actually I support terrorist prisoner abuse.
If it can save one American life, even Pelosi, it is the way to go!
Most of the people who feel sorry for the terr's have not spent one minute in the mid-east and are truly clueless as to who we are dealing with.

This will solve the whole problem


I never have liked the idea that the USA “owns” a part of another country. Did you know that while the Spanish complain that England owns Gibraltar, Cueta, Spain is in Africa, and Llivia, Spain is in France, and all of those cause problems between the countries involved.

You can guess that just as soon a Fidel admits he is dead, and Cubans want to take over their Government again, the call will come for Billions of our dollars to be sent to that country.

I have been against the boycott of Cuba from day one. I think a few McDonald’s and a bunch of new Chevy Taxis in Cuba, would have done a lot more for those people, than the boycott.

So far we have permitted only a one way trip for Cubans, and that does not help Cuba, and from what I heard and read, it hasn’t helped Florida.

I have a different plan. We sent 150,000 American Soldiers and billions of dollars to Iraq, and all we have is a terrible mess, nothing good has happened in all these years, and nothing good is seen in the near further.

For Cuba, I say we send another 150,000 residents of the USA to Cuba, each with a handful of dollars.

We go to Florida, pay cash for 150,000 houses that are owned and lived in by those so-called Cubans, pay cash for their assets, then load the boats, and head for Havana.

Eureka, 150,000 people who proudly claim to be Cubans, heading for home, each with a handful of money.

Several problems are solved, 150,000 Cubans go home and establish a good Government, using what they learned while here, taking cash money with them, to establish the kind of business needed to establish a Democratic government and a capitalist economy, and Florida loses a bunch of aliens.

And now we sell those assets, and the cash returns to the treasury.


He used a JOURNALIST as a source?
“Leahy claimed that between one-half and one-third of the Guantanamo prisoners had no connection to terrorism, citing the journalist Jane Mayer as his source.”
He used a JOURNALIST as a source?

“Senator Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.) worried that Guantanamo would haunt the United States’ international reputation for the foreseeable future. ... ‘I’m a fisherman and there are some problems that are very difficult to unsnarl. You can spend hours trying to undo a knot in your line that took thirty seconds to make. I think that Guantanamo is going to be very difficult to unsnarl,’ he said.”

This is what is known as a false analogy. International relations is not a fishing line. Besides, how much of the future is “foreseeable”?

Those Senators
may want gitmo closed, but none wants the prisoners there relocated in their states nor do the countries from which they come, want these detainees. Now what all you experts and bleeding hearts????

Senators/Congress/Politicos
These Know-Nothing, Do-Nothing, Senator and Congressmen/women are doing nothing more than Bashing the President because he is a sitting Republican President and are trying to con the rest of us out here to Vote Obama, so that they, The Socialist Democrats, Control The Presidency, the Congress, and if elected, Obama could appoint some more Un-American Atheist Socialist Judges. Then, they, the Socialist Atheists would have Complete Control of All Three Branches. They already Have Control of The Media, who is their Official Cheerleaders.

What Americans had better start thinking about is this. Who are These Socialists Beholden to. It is certainly not us Mere Working Class Americans who are out here everyday working and making this Great Country Work. No, the Average American citizen has ZERO Representation at any level of government.

But you Socialists, and wanna be Socialists, had better wake up, You Cannot Run A Country without a Tax Base. Welfare Recipients Do Not Pay Taxes, and In Fact, get IRS refunds and Stimulus packs without even working. What a country. But, if the Socialists get their way, we would all be On The Dole, and thus, there would be no Tax Base. The Communists in Russia had a Revolution in 1917, and tried this. They lived off the Excesses they Stole from The Producers of Russia for a while, but that soon ran out. If Obama and the Socialists are given the chance To Steal From The Rich and Give More Welfare, which Is What Obama is Promising, Where Will Obama get the money to Fund His Give Away Programs then? Welfare recipients contribute nothing but more victims to live off the government, and Of Course, They Get To Vote For Obama and others Who Promise To Give Them more For Nothing. What A Country????

The Soviet Union Went Bankrupt and Collapsed. We are close to it. Don't allow Obama and a Socialist Congress take us over the edge.

Senators--Know Nothings
These Know-Nothing, Do-Nothing, Senator and Congressmen/women are doing nothing more than Bashing the President because he is a sitting Republican President and are trying to con the rest of us out here to Vote Obama, so that they, The Socialist Democrats, Control The Presidency, the Congress, and if elected, Obama could appoint some more Un-American Atheist Socialist Judges. Then, they, the Socialist Atheists would have Complete Control of All Three Branches. They already Have Control of The Media, who is their Official Cheerleaders.

What Americans had better start thinking about is this. Who are These Socialists Beholden to. It is certainly not us Mere Working Class Americans who are out here everyday working and making this Great Country Work. No, the Average American citizen has ZERO Representation at any level of government.

But you Socialists, and wanna be Socialists, had better wake up, You Cannot Run A Country without a Tax Base. Welfare Recipients Do Not Pay Taxes, and In Fact, get IRS refunds and Stimulus packs without even working. What a country. But, if the Socialists get their way, we would all be On The Dole, and thus, there would be no Tax Base. The Communists in Russia had a Revolution in 1917, and tried this. They lived off the Excesses they Stole from The Producers of Russia for a while, but that soon ran out. If Obama and the Socialists are given the chance To Steal From The Rich and Give More Welfare, which Is What Obama is Promising, Where Will Obama get the money to Fund His Give Away Programs then? Welfare recipients contribute nothing but more victims to live off the government, and Of Course, They Get To Vote For Obama and others Who Promise To Give Them more For Nothing. What A Country????

The Soviet Union Went Bankrupt and Collapsed. We are close to it. Don't allow Obama and a Socialist Congress take us over the edge.

Put U.S.Traitors in Gitmo
Since the Congress is doing more harm to the country currently, why do we not replace the Terrorists and Terrorist Suspects with our Senators and Congressmen, who openly perpetrate treasonous acts and statements on a daily basis. The Obstructionists in The U.S. Congress are doing much more harm to this country than any terrorists have to date, save for the Twin Towers fiasco, which, by the way, Congress was responsible for that as well, indirectly. How, you might ask?? Well, when Congress Began Making Laws that basically Dismantled The Best Military Force Ever Assembled, beginning in the 1970's, they put us in a position, as a Nation, that we cannot properly defend ourselves. Before the Dismantling of the Military, we had a Readiness Capability with Aircraft and Personnel standing by on alert 24-7 in strategic places all over the Continent. The Air Defense Command, had they still have been standing ready, with Jet Engines Running With Alert Pilots Standing by, would have had these airliners surrounded in a matter of a few minutes, and had the Pilots or others controlling those airliners, not responded to Demands to Change Course and Land Immediately, they would have been shot down before being allowed to enter the Air Space they were in when they hit Manhattan or the Pentagon. You see, Cutting The military, and using the Money For More Worthless Government Give Away Programs, is a Recipe For Disaster. And 9/11 was a disaster. It should have been a wake up call. Not only to Fight Terrorism, but also, To End The Worthless Bureaucracies that Have Been Created with the Money They, the Socialist Democrats, took Away From A True Government Function, Which Is National Defense. The Government's Responsibility Is Not To Create And Fund A Welfare State. All the Bureaucracy In D.C. is being Funded By Monies That Should Be Spent On National Defense, A Standing Army, Border and Port Security, and Infrastructure. These are the Real Concerns for Government.
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