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Sunday, December 09, 2007
Matt Mayer :: Townhall.com Columnist
Rudy Perpetuates the Republican Taint
by Matt Mayer
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Maybe the Democrats were right in 1998 when they defended President Bill Clinton during the impeachment process by noting that he only lied about having an affair with a White House intern. It was only about sex after all. Besides, despite the widespread knowledge of Clinton’s womanizing, he still won two terms as President. It wasn’t about official actions. Or was it?

The problem with Clinton was that his moral relativism didn’t stop at the bedroom door. It permeated his life – public and private. Much to the glee of Republicans and the frustration of Democrats, Clinton’s moral relativism resulted in Washington spending much of the 1990s investigating the Clintons and the Clinton White House. Whitewater. FBI files. Travel office firings. Law firm billing records. Chinese campaign contributions. Pardons. Clinton’s ethical problems defined his presidency and likely caused Al Gore to lose the 2000 election.

Notwithstanding the disdain of moderates and liberals who pooh-pah the importance of personal morals and ethics, those concepts – debated by some of the greatest minds in history like Aristotle, Plato, and St. Augustine – matter because, without them, man reverts to the state of nature where anything goes and might makes right. For years, Republicans had cornered the market as the party of values because it understood this reality.

In the watershed election of 1994, Republicans offered voters the Contract with America. The Contract with America contained (among other items) pledges to be fiscally responsible and to promote personal responsibility and reinforce family values. The voters accepted the Contract with America by giving Republicans control of the House of Representatives for the first time in over four decades. Soon thereafter, Republicans captured the Senate and the Presidency. During that time, Republicans had an occasional Bob Packwood, but he was lost in the Clinton Ocean of ethical issues. In a 1998 Gallup Poll, Republicans had an eleven-point edge as the party most able to deal with moral issues.

On the road to Damascus, however, we lost our way.

In the twelve years after that historic election, Republicans broke the fiscal covenant they had made with the voters by, among other things, increasing the size of the federal government (passing Medicare Part D; expanding the federal role in education with the No Child Left Behind Act; and adding roughly 7,000 pages of new federal regulations), and significantly accelerating the use of earmarks (from 1,300 in 1994 to 14,000 in 2005). In a November 1994 Gallup Poll, Republicans held a whopping twenty-one point lead over Democrats on who could better handle the economy. Gallup’s latest poll has Democrats leading Republicans by twelve points – a thirty-three-point swing in just thirteen years.

Likewise, Republicans shredded all remnants of the value covenant and lost the banner it held as the party of values and ethics. While the Democrats have the on-going corruption case of William Jefferson, the sordid details of the Jack Abramhoff case – along with the corruption convictions of Republicans Bob Ney and Duke Cunningham – was tailor-made for twenty-four news channels struggling to fill air-time and left-leaning reporters always eager to highlight Republican hypocrisy on ethics. At the state level, Ohio Governor Bob Taft pled guilty to failing to pay for perquisites and got intertwined with his own Jack Abramhoff in the form of Tom Noe. The reporting of Mark Foley’s salacious emailing of pages just weeks before the election sealed the deal for voters in 2006.

In the November 2006 election, other than the war in Iraq, the two biggest issues that hurt Republicans with the voters were the irresponsible use of taxpayer funds and the ethics and corruption taint. The voters decided en masse it was time to take a shower to wash off the Republican taint by giving control of the Congress, several key governorships, and many state legislative chambers to Democrats.

Unfortunately, the ethics taint continues as this year included David Vitter’s prostitution problem, Larry Craig’s wide stance, and Ted Stevens’ remodeling job. Gallup’s newest poll shows Republicans hanging onto a meager four-point lead on value issues, but trailing Democrats by thirteen points on the issue of dealing with government corruption.

So, what does this have to do with Rudy Giuliani? Everything.

For many months, Republican primary voters have struggled with Rudy’s presidential run because while he is a strong leader and did some great things in New York City, he is also morally suspect. During those months, moderates and Machiavellian strategist have pled with the Religious Right to overlook Rudy’s social stances and incredibly messy personal life because he is the only Republican who can allegedly win.

As we have learned over the last few weeks, Rudy’s moral relativism didn’t stop at the bedroom either. From the indictment of Bernie Kerik – a key member of Rudy’s inner circle who Rudy promoted from obscurity to Homeland Security nominee – to the revelations that taxpayers footed the bill for Rudy’s mistress to have round-the-clock police protection years before he separated from his wife, including being driven to visit her parents in Pennsylvania, it is clear that Rudy did whatever Rudy wanted to do.

Look, marriages collapse. It is a fact of life. People make mistakes. That is also a fact of life. That being said, it simply is a bridge too far to ask voters to believe that Rudy had no knowledge of a key public official’s and best friend’s sudden ability to afford an expensive apartment and to ignore the use of taxpayer funds to protect his wife and his mistress at the same time and for months on end. That might work in France, but it won’t work in Iowa. Or Ohio. Or New Mexico. In the 2004 election, President George W. Bush won those states with less than one percent, three percent and one percent, respectively. Without those states, Republicans likely cannot win the White House.

Does anyone really believe that the best way for Republicans to regain the trust of voters on values, corruption, and fiscal restraint on the heels of getting routed in the 2006 mid-term election is to nominate the one Republican presidential candidate with the greatest deficit in these areas? Does anyone really believe that once nominated, the left-leaning media and attack groups will not devote millions of dollars to dig into every nook and cranny of Rudy’s New York City days to find more evidence that Kerik, the taxpayer Amex slush fund, and government-funded dalliances weren’t exceptions to the rule, but represented the rule? Come next November, when each voter enters the ballot box to answer the question “whom do I trust,” does anyone really think that a majority of voters in those three pivotal states will push the lever for Rudy over Barack Obama? Don’t bet on it.

The problem with Rudy isn’t that one of his best friends was corrupt or that he cheated on his wife. The problem with Rudy is that these private lapses involved public positions and funds. At a time when Republicans are neck deep in ethical scandals and trying to reclaim the fiscal high ground, the last thing we need is a candidate to head the ticket who perpetuates the Republican taint. With eleven months to go before the 2008 election, Republicans don’t have the time or resources to waste propping up a politically flawed candidate and trying to parse words to show that Rudy and Bill Clinton aren’t two sides of the same coin. As the latter famously said, “Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.” Rest assured the voters won’t be fooled again.

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The 2 least flawed candidates are
Romney and Thompson. I still think Fred has a chance to elbow in somehow if he would just get off his rear and do something. Romney is by far the best of the two, but I'll take Fred over ANY of the others in a heartbeat.

Rudy's liberalism is hard enough to swallow, but now all these ethics questions. The shine is coming off.

Rudy perpetuates Republican Taint
My biggest problem with Rudy Giuliani is that he
is every bit the nanny-statist that Hillary
would be, just with slight differences. Sure, he
transformed New York City, but into Big Brother's
Terrarium. Furthermore, he paved the way for
Michael Bloomberg's even worse nanny-state; not
only is your every move under constant surveillance, but you're even told what you're
allowed to eat! Extermination of adulthood,any-
one? Are Conservatives really expected to support
this nonsense? Someone should ask England's
Conservatives why they became permanently irrel-event(hint: they caved in on gun control and
traffic cameras).

And...
He is not even a Republican. He's from the Liberal Party.

This will come down to convention...
Don't look now, but I believe this is going to come down to convention...

Assume from the current polls per 100,000... And estimate a slightly higher than normal--but uniform--turnout (aside from the most motivated campaign out there right now - you know who). Turnout in 2000 was something like 8.1%, and in 2004 only 6.6%. I'm being generous with the 15%.

Candidate - percent likely voters * percent turnout * 100,000 = votes

Mitt Romney 33% * 15% * 100,000 = 4950
John McCain 18% * 15% * 100,000 = 2700
Rudy Giuliani 16% * 15% * 100,000 = 2400
Ron Paul 8% * 70% * 100,000 = 5600
Mike Huckabee 5% * 15% * 100,000 = 750
Fred Thompson 4% * 15% * 100,000 = 600
Tom Tancredo 1% * 15% * 100,000 = 150
Unsure 14% * 15% * 100,000 = 2100
Other 1% * 15% * 100,000 = 150

The end values are per 100,000 people, so remember to take those values and multiply by how ever many 100,000 people there are.

I have Ron Paul at 70% turnout. Maybe that's a little high... But if you make it 40%, he's still registering a strong second place finish... which is the point here. In this weak field, all Ron Paul has to do is CONTEND to justify fighting this thing out to the National Convention. (I would add that I believe RP's polling numbers to be soft numbers, particularly in caucus states. Polling in caucus states has been notoriously dubious over the years because there's no way to account for all of the field variables).

I'll be suprised if any Republican garners more than 33% of the vote, leaving the door wide open for Paul to make the case to keep his campaign open.

New Parties
You'd think that at some point we'd replace the existing parties with the Liberal party and the Conservative party. Then, we could stop pretending that just because someone calls themselves a Republican, that it has anything to do with being a Conservative. Instead, we could put all of the liberals, Democrat or Republican in one party, and the rest would be in the Conservative party. Of course, the last thing politicians want is clarity when it comes to these things. The more they can can confuse the public - the better off they are.

Rudy vs. Hillary
CAN WE NOT DO BETTER?

Giuliani: If I Have A Presidential Mistress, She Will Get Security Too!

Giuliani’s Answer Was ‘Flimsy,’ Says ‘Tough-Talking New Yorker’

Giuliani Defends, Employs Priest Accused of Molesting Teens

HILLARY

Hillary’s Hsu indicted

Weapons Industry Dumps Republicans, Backs Hillary

Hillary, Bush For Open Borders!

WATCH VIDEO

http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/rudy-vs-hillary

Clintons corruption succeeded
in marginalizing/minimizing immoral and amoral behavior.

Now all we're left with is, "but your guy does it too!" As posted on the Dinesh thread this morning - neener, neener/nanner, nanner is not an argument.

Why are we settling for these scummy lowlifes, from both sides? Does not our great country deserve the best we have to offer?

When the debates are reduced to YouTube idiocy, Lincoln and Douglass are rotating in their graves like whirling dervishes.

silicondoc....
My God! I couldn't have said it any better. What the HE!! is wrong with people? At this point I'm so mad I COULD SPIT!!!!

Open borders crowd ONLY. : > (

Hate to break it to some of you but...
... Giuliani is the only candidate running on a platform of free market capitalism and individual choice. On taxes, on spending, on education, on health care, on trade, on Social Security, and the list goes on. Instead of just talking about cutting taxes, he has done it. Instead of just talking about cutting spending, he's done it.

Terrific article
I woul suspect democrats hope we nominate Guliani and are ready to go with accusations.

What else?
These little escapades of Rudy may or may not hurt his campaign, but what else is there. I doubt very much if what we've read or heard so far is the complete story on this guy. He has been too involved with shady characters over the years. We've seen one shoe drop already, and you can be sure that any real dirt (if there is any) will be held back until it can do the most damage. It would probably be best for the party and the country if Rudy bailed out now. The second shoe to drop might sway the election.

I doubt if JFK would have been elected if the public had know about his ties to the mob or the fact that he was a moral degenerate.

Nominate Giuliani = electing the Dem
My only quibble with the column is the assertion that it's only Giuliani's vulnerability to the MSM's exploitation of Baldy's lack of character that's problematic.

No way. To me, it's the very lack of character itself, not that it makes him weak. Couple that with his liberal policies, and what do you have? The GOP equivalent of Bill Clinton.

What is the party even thinking when they consider nominating this loser?

The guy's a flaming liberal. Appointed leftist judges, maintained "sanctuary city" status for illegal aliens, supports taxpayer funding for abortions, endorsed Mario Cuomo for Governor, anti-gun and sued out-of-state gun dealers and manufacturers, thinks abortion is a woman's "right".... all in all a great resume.... for a liberal Democrat.

The guy's running in the wrong party.

Republican Taint
To compare Rudy to Clinton is ludicrous. Clinton perjured himself and obstructed justice in a court of law - all while he was chief law enforcer of the country.

Rudy has a proven record of cutting taxes, government, spending & crime. A free marketer he is. Speaking of which, he also has a wonderful write-up from the Club for Growth. Number of marriages, where you stand on gays,
abortion, and other nonsense social issues are unimportant in electing a strong leader.

Giuliani is a man of principle
We may not like Giuliani's morals or some of the positions he took when fighting for New York. Other things being equal, I would prefer a president who shares my traditional values. But other presidents, like Jimmy Carter, who share my moral values have naively made compromise after compromise with the Left. Giuliani shares my political values when it comes to the central issues of law and order, national security, border enforcement, and the economy. Most importantly, however, I am convinced he is a street fighter who, unlike Romney and Thompson, will not compromise on these core issues.

Traditional values only became an issue because of the Federal Government's attack on Christianity. Social conservatives make the mistake of looking to the Government to fix what it broke. We just need the Government to stop telling us and our children how to think, feel and act in the moral realm. Once that happens, the necessity and value of the family can reassert itself, and religion and moral values can regain their rightful role in society.

Huckabee is worse than Bush when it comes to big government. The one thing we know for sure about Romney is that politics trumps values and principles. And Fred Thompson seems reassuringly home spun in a Jimmy Carter sort of way. But I fear he will be a man of compromise when it comes to the core issues. Somehow, I like the idea of a president who will unflinchingly call the N.Y. Times treasonous, and who will denounce as traitors democrats who would rather provide sound bites for al Jezeera than give patriotic speeches supporting our troops. We don't need Christ for righteous, holy living - not to be president; for president we need a David, even if he is morally flawed.

nate
Yeah, man of principle: "Do what I say, not what I do". So much for the "Golden Rule". He's more like Cesar Chavez than Abe Lincoln.

Matt Mayer
I agree with you.

I voted for George H.W. Bush even though I had my doubts about him. The way he ridiculed Ronald Reagan when he ran against him for the presidential nomination, I didn't think he was a true believer in conservative principles. He proved me right after he broke his promise of "No new taxes" but I decided to give his son the benefit of the doubt. After all, George W. was not his father, right? Right! He was much worse!

I won't be a fool a third time. If Rudy gets the nomination, I'll vote for Hillary! Better to allow the liberals to prove how wreckless they are, than to endorse someone calling himself a conservative while he ruins the country!


HUNTER 2008


Securing the border and enforcing the law is the only way we get to keep our rule of law, our representative Republic, and our Constitution. We must elect a President who WILL secure the border and enforce the law. If citizenship becomes meaningless, this will no longer be the United States of America.

The so-called "top tier" will not get out the voters necessary for a GOP win. Increasing turnout is the key. Give people something to vote for. Not just the lesser of two evils. Won't work this time. People are fed up with the inundation of illegal aliens. They would come out in droves for the clear choice of D=amnesty or R=enforcement. They will stay home if they both equal amnesty.

There is a huge majority of American citizens waiting for someone to pledge to uphold the laws and secure the borders, let's not ignore them any more.

http://www.gohunter08.com

Save Your Country

We have run out of time on the illegal alien inundation. We either stop it now or we lose our country. Rudy won't do it. He thinks it's impossible to enforce our laws. I want someone who doesn't.

The GOP cedes their best issues by running Rudy. He agrees with Hillary on abortion, gays, guns, and amnesty. I want someone who doesn't.

America is worth saving. Vote conservative.

nate
I hope you meant to say "We NEED Christ for righteous, holy living - not to be president; for president we need a David..."

HUNTER FOR AMERICA

Securing the border and enforcing the law is the only way we get to keep our rule of law, our representative Republic, and our Constitution. We must elect a President who WILL secure the border and enforce the laws. If citizenship becomes meaningless, this will no longer be the United States of America.

If the GOP thinks they can continue to import cheap labor for their donors at the expense of the citizens, they will. I will not vote for that again. If we continue to play the game of "the other guy is worse", we will lose our country. Sorry, but I will not participate in that game any longer. The GOP power brokers think we will vote for "anybody but a Democrat" so they can continue to ignore securing the borders and enforcing the laws. I'm hoping GOP primary voters give the party elites some surprises in the primaries. The levers of power and the money in the GOP are all in the hands of the cheap labor express. They do not want Duncan Hunter as the candidate. He WOULD enforce the laws and secure the border. WE have to make him the nominee by voting in the primaries. We have to talk to our friends and neighbors about him. He is not going to get media coverage. It's going to have to be a grass roots effort. I WANT to vote for a GOP candidate in Nov.'08, I WILL NOT vote for any of the amnesty supporters. If it takes crushing the GOP so a new party representing American citizens can arise, so be it.

http://www.gohunter08.com

I'm amazed at what
some people are willing to sacrifice for purportedly fiscal conservatism.

Giuliani is a liberal who'll make the Presidency of Jorge Bush look like the good old days of Reagan conservatism.

Somehow, that means nothing to the neo-cons, a topic I addressed in depth here:

http://viewfromtheisland.townhall.com/g/b946ac31-9455-4f40- 9fe8-4f043c0404e5

And, yes, I mean all you people who tout Baldy as a "fiscal conservative" are neo-cons.


RUDY & HUCK ARE UNACCEPTABLE

.....Either would destroy the Republican Party ...all other Republican candidates would be preferable to those two RINOs ....

.....The Conservative vote is split too many ways which helps Giulani ....Giulani needs to be defeated in the Primaries so Conservatives better unite on who gets to take Rudy out ...Huckabee is not the one ...Huck is more Liberal than Rudy ...the MSM is puffing Huck up to help Giulani ...

.....Conservatives need to pay heed to the media because they are the canary in the coal mine .....the media is trying to manipulate campaign coverage to put a Democrat in the White House ...Republicans need to be smart ...I hope I am not asking too much .....COLOSSUS

Yeah, bballdoc
That's my fear, too: the conservative vote splitting up and then we end up with Baldy or Huckster.

Bad, bad news.


Rudy is a Taint
He was taint-ing it up all over meet the press this week end.

Any one notice the spittle when he lisp. Not presidential. Oh yea he is slimy and hope he wins the GOP Nom. Hillary will whip his 911 bald lisping taint. Really the GOP needs to be punished and BAD. Vote Dem '08 and stop the madness and return the GOP to "traditional conservatism" and reject all that the Karl Rove-ian/Cheney Neo-Cons represent, which is not conservative just WRONG and hurt America badly.

Rudy is electable
He's a proven executive.

He's a fiscal conservcative.

He's assertive and aggressive. He was a stalwart law-and-order prosecutor.

His "liberal" views, if they are such, are on subejcts presidents cannot govern or legislate. Pres. cannot reverse Roe or overrule the MA Sup. Ct. on gay marraige. Presidents cannot change local gun laws, change state marriage laws, or prevent private embryonic stem cell research.

If Hillary is nominated, he will not shirk from campaigning, regardless of her detectives and shills asking questions, and Bill's speaking from the bully pulpit.

Thompson and the rest would make good vice presidents, but they have neither the ambition nor overwheening record of leadership success that Rudy has. If you were from NY or NJ, you would have no doubts.

Great pair

This could be the match of the century. A bald NY lawyer with a lisp who dresses in women's clothing and a closet Lesbian with a Muslim girlfriend. And they say the comedy writers are on strike!

LOL, Renny!
Yeah, Baldy's a real campaigner against Hillary. He proved that when he ran against her in her first Senate race, and beat her like a rug.

Oh....wait.... he ended up chickening out!


Let me remind you again, Renny, on gun laws. Remember the Clinton Assault Weapon Ban, which thankfully recently expired? Remember why it had that name? Probably not.

It was because President Bill Clinton proposed it, shepherded it through Congress, and signed it into law.

Something I suspect Bald Hillary would do if given half a chance.

I don't trust that guy as far as I can throw the whole Internet.


rudy is a zionist
zionism is the death knell of America. It's time to vote for an America Firster.

Ron Paul. He's the only one who can release us from the death grips of the chicken hawk zionist lobby.

moral relativism
Neither party has a monopoly on moral relativism. I have come to believe that with few exceptions, most politicians are moral relativists. They seek power and keep it through compromise and pandering. Term limits might help, but first let's have a clean sweep and elect no incumbents or lifetime pols.
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