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Sunday, August 17, 2008
Mark Hillman :: Townhall.com Columnist
Udall's U-turn on oil exploration
by Mark Hillman
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Mark Udall's message to Colorado voters is crystal clear: just tell me want you want to hear, and I'll say it.

Udall is a five-term Democrat congressman, vying for perhaps the country's most hotly contested U.S. Senate seat. He's built his reputation as an uncompromising environmentalist, consistently opposed domestic energy exploration, and blocked construction of new refineries to make American energy supplies more secure.

Now, Udall wants voters to believe that he's suddenly seen the light.

"We've got to produce our own oil and gas, right here in our country," he says in a new commercial paid for by his U.S. Senate campaign.

Just what we need: another politician who will sell his soul to attain higher office.

Over the years, Udall's record on domestic energy production has been much more dogmatic than pragmatic, more extremist than centrist. He's voted to:

€ Block drilling for American oil in Alaska or off shore at least nine times.

€ Deny tax deductions for production of U.S. oil and gas, thereby putting American companies at a financial disadvantage versus their competitors in the Middle East, Russia and South America.

€ Declare oil cartels like OPEC to be in violation of U.S. antitrust law, even though most high school seniors - not to mention Members of Congress - are smart enough to know that our laws do not apply to foreign oil companies.

€ Oppose making abandoned military bases available for construction of new oil refineries, oblivious to the reality no new American oil refineries have been constructed since 1976, increasing our dependence on foreign refineries.

The Denver Post described Udall's U-turns as "sharp turnarounds for a man who has made the expansion of renewable energy a cornerstone of his career." The Politico, a Washington, D.C.-based journal, called the flip-flop "a clear shift from his previous opposition to such measures."

So, Colorado voters who are fed up with $4-a-gallon gasoline should ask themselves: Why does Mark Udall now claim to support domestic production of oil and gas? And does he truly mean it?

The most obvious answer to the first question is polling. In June and July, Udall held as much as a 10-point lead over his opponent, former Congressman Bob Schaffer. That lead nearly evaporated in two recent surveys.

Sixty percent of Coloradans tell the Wall Street Journal poll that they're "more likely" to support a candidate who favors easing restrictions on drilling. A Rasmussen poll shows 65% of Coloradans want to make increasing energy production the top priority over reducing energy consumption.

As to the sincerity of Udall's conversion, only the commercial paid for by his senate campaign backs him up. All other evidence suggests that this is a poll-driven conversion of political convenience.

Udall's campaign website dwells on developing wind and solar power but says little about developing new sources of oil and gas. Instead, Udall falls back on old liberal canards: "we cannot drill our way to energy security" and "not every place that can support oil drilling should be drilled."

Consider, also, Udall's five-point plan to address rising gas prices. Four points do nothing to increase domestic energy resources. A fifth supports drilling off the shore of Cuba but is contained in a Udall-sponsored bill that hasn't even received a congressional hearing since it was introduced over a year ago.

If Udall were serious about developing domestic energy, wouldn't he have demanded a vote on his own bill before allowing Congress to take its summer vacation? Instead, Udall was campaigning in Colorado when a vote to consider a genuine domestic energy bill fell short by just one vote.

Finally, it would be foolish not to acknowledge that Udall's wife spent 20 years working for Sierra Club, whose webpage features a petition congratulating Speaker Nancy Pelosi for adjourning without bringing oil exploration to a vote.

Mark Udall hasn't changed his stripes. That's great news for his liberal base, but it's bad news for Coloradans who want affordable gas prices.

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About The Author
Mark Hillman is a Colorado native, a farmer, "recovering journalist" and a former Majority Leader of the Colorado Senate.
Technically
he didn't lie.

"We've got to produce our own oil and gas, right here in our country,"

You have to read under, over and between the lines. He means, "We've got to produce our own oil and gas, right here in our country in that 68 million acres that the oil companies already lease."

These damned politicians are truly morons. He's been against oil his entire career and he thinks that by omitting a few words, we won't know what he really means?

Oil & Politicians
Some politicians have no shame. They will say anything,believe anything and do anything to stay in office.

These 'no-drill'Democrats have seen the handwriting on the wall as far as their constituents are concerned. $4 a gallon does not hurt politicians pocketbooks,but it does the voters.

They will see the light. The MSM will hype their mind change and all will be forgotten about how they were willing to let us pay top dollar for gasoline. They will come up smelling like a rose,as usual.

Flip-Flop
He's not as ugly as John Kerry but his mantra is much the same. "I voted for it before I voted against it". Or is it, "I didn't know what position I was voting for... until the latest polls came out". The truth is, they all need to go, Republicans, Independents and Democrats! We must take back America, before it's too late!

Another Udall, same message
New Mexico has its own Udall trying to win a senate seat for the democrats. His anti-drilling stance is identical to Mark Udall of Colorado. Bad news for America.

Oil shale development
Udall’s environazi stances on “traditional” energy development over the years has prohibited any oil shale development research on public land. (Some development work has been done on private land and Shell(?) has devised a promising procedure but they’re not certain it will work effectively in full scale production.)

If this process (or others) had been developed and tested over the past 30 or so years, since the last oil shale development attempt, we likely would have a very effective method for gathering the oil shale oil reserves today. Those reserves are estimated at 1.5 Trillion bbls of oil and 800 Billion bbls of recoverable.

BTW - Saudi Arabia’s recoverables are estimated at 260 Billion bbls. [ CIA estimate ]

Thanks Mr Udall (and to your father and brother as well) for the shortsightedness for the energy demands of this country. What exactly have we been paying you for? I thought it was to look out for the MAJORITY of the people you represent not just the environmental wackos. My mistake.

Vote for Schaffer!
I just hope the folks in CO. will have the good sense to vote for Bob Schaffer in November. He's a solid conservative who we need in the US senate!

LIAR lIAR pants on sustainable fire~!!!
If you believe that this clown is for drilling, you probbably took the short bus to school. The clown is the spawn of Mo Udall, the guy that made ANWR, one of the richest oil fields in the world, from an oil exploration area to a wildlife preserve, and he is suddenly for drilling?

IF your BS-o-meter is not on tilt, you are dead or at least have probably forgotten to breathe several times today.

Demand a contract in writing. You support drilling, or you resign. Not some dem poision pill loaded half-ased measure, real drilling. Gull Island or you resign as another dem liar pandering for votes.

StopTheEnvironmentalMadness!!

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Colorado Boom!
The people of Colorado are in for an economic rocket ride when the state's politicians realize the money to be made from development of the oil shale in their state. Those reserves are great enough to provide for 100% of our current consumption for the next 250 years. Colorado will reap huge financial benefit from that development.

The Unitied States will share in that windfall in three ways. First, we will no longer export $700 BILLION of our national wealth EACH YEAR to purchase imported oil. And secondly, we will reduce the cash flow to terrorist organizations now financied by crude oil sales. And, finally, we will no longer be required to protect the world's oil supply as we presently do by engagement in the Middle East.

Udall has not even mentioned his long standing opposition to the development of oil shale. All Colorado voters need to determine the position of a candidate on this most critical issue.

Told To Lie !!
Nancy Pelosi has ordered her Democrats puppets to lie to get elected or re-elected. They need to keep control so she can keep her job. No Democrat can be trusted. She has made that very clear.

Shameless Radical Enviro
Radical environmentalists, such as Udall, have absolutely zero inhibitions on hyperbole, distortion of facts or down right lying. After all, in their world, the ends justify the means. If anyone believes this sorry sack of cow dung has had an epiphany you probably still believe Owl Gore and James Hansen are totally unbiased and don't cook their figures for personal gain.

Colorado: In the Dark Ages
Once upon a time there was Parachute a quiet town in Colorado, the town where oil shale would be converted to oil, then along came the enviro-wackos led by Democrats and Parachute and the rest of Colorado stopped progress in their tracks. I have worked on rigs in the Godiva Basin (around Maybell) and there is indeed oil there if we were allowed to get it. A refinery or two would have helped especially along the western basin where the only pristine areas cannot be found around Rifle or Dinosaur.
Don't get sucked in Colorado, alternative energy for the masses is years away and buying at the mercy of others is no solution!

Why does he do it?
Because it works, of course.

"Progressives" turn over new leaves on important issues (energy, crime, taxes) more often than roses drop petals. And are especially prone to doing so when they fear losing elections, and thus losing the absolute power that they need like a junkie needs horse.

And like that junkie, they will lie, cheat, steal, and /or do anything else they need to get their next fix- to get back in office, and back in power, again.

And again like the junkie who promises to get straight if you give him the dough for one more fix, afterward, they sneer at the rest of us, think, "Those peons really ARE f***ing morons" and go back to their buddies on the extreme left, smiling and telling them, "We jerked them off again. On to Utopia." To loud applause- because they, too, have nothing but contempt and hatred for those they regard as less "enlightened" than their own perfect selves. After all, they're junkies too- and we've been "facilitating" their habit for decades.

I say it's time to make them all go cold turkey. Everywhere. And this is as good a place as any to start.

Don't play this junkie's game, Colorado. Throw the bum out.

clear ether

eon

Udall has his marching orders
as given by Marie Antoinette (Pelosi). She told her "do nothing" congress to go home for their FIVE week vacation and tell their constituents whatever they want to hear if it will garner votes. It's no surprise Udall is telling Coloradans he's all for domestic drilling as he knows it will gain votes. But only from those who haven't paid attention in the past few months that Pelosi has been in office. My opinion is anyone who votes for Udall, Pelosi, Murtha, Reid, Obama will get what they deserve. The rest of us will suffer exponentially as we knew of the consequences and tried in vane to reveal these treasonous traiters for the enemies of the U.S. that they are. Pelosi gains with high gas prices as she has invested some $100,000 in T Boone Pickens natural gas stock (check it out). Who in their right mind would not want the U.S. to be energy (oil) independant when the middle east has us by our collective nuts and could squeeze at anytime. Now that Russia is back in the game it is even more curcial to drill here, drill now.

Local Worry/National Disgrace
Udall is a Boulder liberal. I'm not mocking him - it is a clinical truth. His recent ad drawing a line in the sand is endearing... but I think a lot of us know it is bunk. Once in office he'd turn into one of Reid's gnomes like Salazar did - our "moderately conservative" Democrat Senator who is now lock step with Hillary and the like, and recently featured duking it out with McConnell about domestic oil production. (Sheesh, given his recent misguided attacks on Limbaugh - he's a real idiot!) It is not serving the country well.

We don't need two of the same in the Senate. I worry over the vote in November.

Delusional
It's amazing to see posters from Colorado claim that there is no drilling going on on the Western slope, since they either never stray from the front range or are lying.

Western Colorado is currently in the midst of a drilling boom of oil and natural gas that has almost every leased acre currently producing, and companies scrambling to find enough workers plus housing to accomodate the boom.

As for oil shale, it was Reagan who pulled the plug on this technology back in the 80s.

PART 1 of 3
Currently 80+ % of the Green River Shale, being under federal, state & tribal lands in Colorado, Wyoming & Utah, biggest by far oil-shale fields, are BLOCKED by Congress & the federal government from exploration/drilling.

100% of 19 million acres of ANWR are restricted, while the oil companies only ask for surface access to 2500-4500 acres which is 0.02%, leaving 99.98% UNTOUCHED, but we can not drill there either.

3/4 of offshore blocks are currently off-limits to oil & gas exploration.

IT'S TIME WE GOT SERIOUS ABOUT OUR ENERGY INDEPENDENCE,ECONOMY & NATIONAL SECURITY.

TIME TO DRILL.

Sam T. Mullins
25+ years as an exploration petroleum geologist.

PART 2 of 3
Subject: DOE: U.S. richest deposits of oil shale

Excerpt Quote:
http://www.fossil.energy.gov/programs/reserves/npr/publica tions/npr_strategic_significancev1.pdf

Strategic Significance of America’s Oil Shale Resource
Volume I Assessment of Strategic Issues
March 2004 Final Report

Prepared for:
Office of Deputy Assistant Secretary for Petroleum Reserves
Office of Naval Petroleum & Oil Shale Reserves
U.S. Department of Energy, Washington, D.C.

Because of its magnitude & richness, oil shale in past years elicited more than a billion dollars in investment. Investment attractiveness is a necessary for future development.

The unconventional resources of the U.S. oil shale & Canadian tar sands are larger than total world resources of conventional petroleum.

Oil produced from tar sands & oil shale will become increasingly attractive to supplement conventional crude supplies.
With a resource base of more than 1 trillion barrels, the United States has the richest deposits of oil shale in the world.

When developed, shale oil resources will be similar to Alberta tar sand. Between the two Countries, the United States & Canada will be able to claim the largest oil reserves in the world, & these reserves will support secure liquid fuels production for decades to come.

end excerpt quote.


IT'S TIME WE GOT SERIOUS ABOUT OUR ENERGY INDEPENDENCE,ECONOMY & NATIONAL SECURITY.

TIME TO DRILL.

Sam T. Mullins
25+ years as an exploration petroleum geologist.



DRILL NOW DRILL HERE
Udall and Pelosi are on the LYING band wagon again, actually she have never fallen off it.

Udall the American People want Drilling Here, Drilling NOW, with no agenda by you and NO COMPROMISES. Udall and Pelosi's idea of “use it or loose it” doesn’t hold water, and you have no knowledge of how search, finding, drilling for crude oil and natural gas is performed. It is NOT growing grapes and bottling WINE.

Again Pelosi in an attempt to cover her wrongs, is trying to show the American People that she care, however she has no concern for the Owners Of The Country, only to protect her own self-centered interest.
This recent action of hers and other DEMOCRATS is a ploy in an election year just to get votes in November, in an attempt to show the American People that the DEMOCRATS truly “CARE” about the country, when in fact they are in the pockets of the Environmentalist and self-centered lobbyist, bent on their own agendas.

For the rest of the story visit:

http://www.ilm-efx.5u.com/photo4.html

And for new on the “NON GLOBAL WARMING BY MAN” visit

http://www.ilm-efx.5u.com/photo5.html

You will be amazed at the Truth About Global Warming.





PART 3 of 3
Subject: Congressional BAN & oil shale extraction

Excerpt QUOTE: http://www.americansolutions.com/General/?Page=1c1a10c1-15 fd-4ad8-a426-b9a87f635903


The most startling Congressional prohibition on oil production concerns the ban on development of oil shale in the Green River Formation. According to a Rand Study, this contains over 1+ trillion barrels of oil, with 800 billion barrels recoverable, or 3 times the oil reserves of Saudi Arabia.

The largest known oil shale deposits in the world. Estimates of the oil resource in place within the Green River Formation of Colorado, Utah, & Wyoming, range from 1.5 to 1.8 trillion barrels. For policy planning, it is enough to know any amount in this range is very high. U.S. demand for petroleum products is about 20 million barrels per day. If oil shale could be used to meet 1/4 of demand, 800 billion barrels of oil would last for 400 years.

The same RAND study indicated that technology exists today that would allow oil extraction process that would be cost effective at a price of a barrel of oil at $95. The price of a barrel of oil today is around $110-130.

However, Shell has a technology that would make extraction cheaper.

Shell Oil Company has successfully conducted small-field tests of an insitu process based on slow underground heating. Shell anticipates the petroleum products produced by thermally conductive in-situ method will be competitive at oil prices in the mid-$20s per barrel.

In short, if the Congress removed its ban, America could develop a substantial amount of oil from domestic oil shale rather than relying on foreign governments.

end excerpt quote.

IT'S TIME TO STOP THE PARTICAN DEMOCRATIC POLITICS AND DO WHATS RIGHT !

IT'S TIME WE GOT SERIOUS ABOUT OUR ENERGY INDEPENDENCE, ECONOMY & NATIONAL SECURITY.

TIME TO DRILL.

Sam T. Mullins
25+ years as an exploration petroleum geologist

WRONG PANCHO.
QUOTE:

"Pancho"
Location: UT

Reply # 17
Date: Aug 18, 2008 - 8:35 AM EST Subject: Delusional
It's amazing to see posters from Colorado claim that there is no drilling going on on the Western slope, since they either never stray from the front range or are lying.

Western Colorado is currently in the midst of a drilling boom of oil and natural gas that has almost every leased acre currently producing, and companies scrambling to find enough workers plus housing to accomodate the boom.

As for oil shale, it was Reagan who pulled the plug on this technology back in the 80s.

END QUOTE...

WRONG PANCHO.

Oil went from $42 per barrell to $12 per barrell in the early 1980s costing over 374,000 U.S. domestic Oil & gas Exploration/production & support industry jobs.

Along with that was the Oil Shale projects that became at that point NON-ECONOMICALLY viable to pursue.

Now with oil well over $110 per barrell, with newer less expensive tecnology to now produce oil from the Green River Shale, we should go after those resources yet as I have proved over 80%+ of the acreage is continued to be banned with 70+% ofit by Congress.

Get your facts straight.

Wrong Sam
>Estimates of the oil resource in place within the Green River Formation of Colorado, Utah, & Wyoming, range from 1.5 to 1.8 trillion barrels.<

It's comical how some people use statistics so fallaciously.

That Rand study you quote admits that only about 800,000 barrels of shale are recoverable. It's likely much less.

The Shell in situ process is still very much in the experimental stage, and in no way ready for commercial production. As well, there is always the water problem, as the entire area is part of a very fragile Colorado River basin.

You should stick to worrying about drilling offshore in Florida. Either that or move to a trailer in the wilds of Rio Blanco County, since there is currently a dearth of workers for the drilling going on there right now. Have you ever been to Rangely, Vernal or Meeker?

Methusela, sorry, but the politicians
aren't the morons, the people that keep electing them are. While all politicians lie to some extent, the Dems are simply better liars who use feelings instead of facts and logic to impress the naive voters.


Wrong Again Pancho...
Wrong Again Pancho...

If you will care to notice, The DOE, (the U.S. Dept. of Energy), was quoted here too @ a conservative estimate of 800 BILLION barrels of oil not, 800,000...

AT a use of 20 billion barrels of oil useage a year, that means this one area of the Rockies in Utah, Colorado, & Wyoming holds over 40 years of TOTAL U.S. supply all on its own...

Also, combined with current fields in the U.S., coupled with oil from oil shale fields like the Bakken in Montana, North Dakota, & South Dakota, the Tuscaloosa Marine Shale, of South Louisiana & Mississippi, and with over 3/4 of our offshore blocks & all of ANWR being un-explored/developed, we have over 100 to possibly 200+ years of oil & gas reserves if CONGRESS will only stop blocking our access to the best and most promising of these geologically viable areas...

I quoted FACTS from the DOE...

NO DISTORTION HERE...

How about you sir ? ? ?

Maybe he's maturing
Morris Udall, Mark's daddy, is the one who made most of Alaska off limits to any kind of development through ANILCA and his later advocation for the D-2 lands lockup under Carter. I asked him in 1978 what he expected the student group I was standing among to do for a living if we wanted to continue to live in Alaska. He told me that the pristine environment would provide me with many jobs in tourism. In college, I worked in tourism -- I got paid minimum wage, which I think is still the going rate for tourism in Alaska -- for four months out of the year. Yeah, Daddy was in idiot.

I suspect Mark Udall has been following in Daddy's footsteps and espousing Daddy's ideas because, well, if you're a Udall, that's what you're supposed to do. But I would not that in a very political family of very Mormon people, Mark Udall is the only non-Mormon. I don't know his reasons for that, but I do know how uncommon it is for people who live that close to Mormon country to leave the LDS. Mark's been a maverick before, so maybe he's coming to his senses on some other issues as well. And, yeah, the polling may have a great deal to do with it. There was a time when to be a liberal was a good thing -- it meant defending individual rights and several issues that we conservatives now embrace. That was before the Democratic party was hijacked by a bunch of people who don't live in reality. Well, maybe a few do now. Maybe they're getting real-world woke-up real fast. I'm not saying conservatives should vote for them, but we should applaud every liberal who takes a step toward sanity because that's a sign that our political and economic future might not be as dismal as we think.

Never Forget
Politicians did not pursue energy as long as the people did not demand it. And until gas hit $4 a gallon, most didn't. Now, the politicians are moving. First, many republicans who had never shown any enthusiasm for drilling, jumped on the bandwagon. I lived in Florida for a few years, and until a few months ago, the GOP governor and the GOP house and senate opposed drilling.

Further, many in the GOP routinely opposed drilling in ANWAR - which McCain still does.

Frankly, it took $4 a gallon gas to make this an issue. So, if the Democrats decide to jump ship as a number of republicans have already done - then I'm not going to condemn the Democrats anymore that the Republicans. What is needed, after all, is an energy policy - and I don't care who develops it.

The real issue, of course, is that the oil industry has been right all along. They're the ones that told congress that there was no shortage, and that there was no reason that oil should not be costing $65 to $85 per barrel, as it did a year or so ago. Other than the fact that unregulated speculation, in combination with a devalued dollar, had driven up world prices.


Cont'd.
If oil slides back, then some of the pressure will decline. Furthermore, the oil industry is not going to base any future investments on current pricing until it is convinced that the price will stabilize at the higher levels. They've gone through too many boom/bust cycles to over-react right now.

So, whereas the issue today is front and center, it needs to stay there. But we still have a ways to go. The most readily available source right now is ANWAR, and McCain still doesn't support it. Offshore drilling is second, and then issues of shale oil will come on line third.

The good news - and there is good news. Is that we can likely exploit shale sources - but only at the higher prices - unless the reports on Shells process turn out to be scaleable. If so, then perhaps we can put it all to bed.

And that's good news, because if the US could end its reliance on unreliable sources of oil - it would be a huge leap forward in ensuring our security.

To Redlac & ModMark...
SPOT ON Redlac, EXCELLENT POSTs, THANKS...

To ModMark:

The newer less costly insitu-method for oil extraction from the Green River oil shale formation has been successfully tested and proven viable economically at a small level, BUT needs to be tried on a larger scale to be proven completely viable at the lower prices as posted here ModMark...

To do this larger/bigger areas of continuious acreage will be needed to make sure taht this a viable economically efficient way to extract this potentially vast oil reserves of the Rockies...

Again to gain the access to larger tracts of the acreage needed to properly test the long term, large scale economically, environmentally, and timely, viability of the Shell Oil Companies "insitu-method" of oil extraction from the Green River Oil shale will require Congress to grant access to the proper acreage needed that continues to be banned by them at this time...

Redlac
Some good points. I agree that if (and this is the big if) the dems are actually serious when they say that they support more drilling I'm ok with their switch. Unfortunately they are not always good for their word--they have been known to go back on their word! Mostly I would be concerned with Udall's weasle words that additional drilling needs to be done as part of a larger energy policy--sounding like Obama and other dems where they will (grudgingly) include drilling after everything else is done, maybe.


flip flop
Drilling Flip Flop...Just like McCain. But is that not what politicians are supposed to do. Represent what the majority of the people want. That used to be democracy what democracy was all about. .

Doug: My Thoughts Exactly
"Subject: Another Udall, same message
New Mexico has its own Udall trying to win a senate seat for the democrats. His anti-drilling stance is identical to Mark Udall of Colorado. Bad news for America."

I wonder if these two Udalls are related? Supposedly Udall is doing better in New Mexico than Steve Pearce is. I listened to Steve debate Heather Wilson and was very, very impressed with Steve. Keeping my fingers crossed that New Mexico will open their eyes and get rid of the Dems running Santa Fe and northern New Mexico.

Udall for Drilling? No Way!
I lived in Udall's district for over 20 years until the 7th District was created and was put in the 7th District. I never voted for him for 20 years but since Boulder is in his district they always decided the outcome of the election. He has never been for drilling since I have known him and he is saying he is for it to get votes. He knows running for the US senate he has to say things to get votes because he has to run in the entire state now and not just in Boulder. I know he is hoping voters dont have any long memories of his past record as an environmentalist.

Sam T.
When we needed to defeat Germany, we built the Manhattan Project. Yet when we need to defeat terrorism, rebuild our economy, and end our reliance on clearly unreliable sources of oil, We do what we've done since 9/11.

Nothing.

The US consumes almost 1/4 of the World's oil, and somewhere around 60%-65% comes from off shore. You want to drive a stake into the heart of Russia, Chavez, and Iran - for starters, cut world demand by 15% to 20% by taking the US off line. That single action would drive pricing down, take hundreds of billions of dollars out of the pockets of these regimes, and do more to defeat them than any Iraqi war. And it would also keep those $100's of billions of dollars here and entirely reverse the balance of payments deficits.

That's security.


For 30 years the US has lived in a dream world when it comes to energy. The French built an infrastructure of perfectly reliable nuclear plants that provide their electricity and produce no waste (get that), and we dwaddle over here and argue over Yucca Mountain. We have ample reserves of coal and the technology to keep it clean - and we still do nothing.

Personally, I'd like to see $5/gallon gas. Maybe then the public - and the politicians who follow the public, will finally get the message.

My Mistake
The estimated barrels of recoverable oil(it's not really oil) in the Rand study is 800 billion.

So we go from half the stated amount by Sam, and even recovering 800 billion barrels of keragen calls for completely altering a huge part of the Western slope of the Rockies.

Most reasonable people see the region as more of a natuaral gas producer. Cleaner, easier to extract and refine, natural gas is the more logical and environmentally product offered by the Green River formation.

Pancho:
Most of the rigs I know around Vernal Utah and the Western slope are drilling for natural gas. A lot of the land is Indian and so federal requirements go out the door. For your information, it was this same area that we were drilling in the early 80's because I worked for Loffland at the time. A lot of my friends are still in the patch and this is what they have told me.

Udall is just following orders
CommonMan and n2win got it right when they pointed out that das Machenfuhrer Pelosi told democrats in the House to go home and lie to their constituents and say anything they needed to say to get re-elected. She said she would clear it all up after the election.

Udall is just goose stepping to das Machenfuhrer's beat. DON'T FALL FOR IT!
VOTE FOR SCHAEFER FOR COLORADO !!


Udall is Hopeless
You can't trust the man...his record says one thing even if his current ads are trying to hype him as a caring man who wants to get America off of foreign oil. He doesn't care about that, he just wants to get reelected--he'll say anything to make it look like he's not part of the Pelosi Party.

Don't trust him. Vote for anybody (I prefer Schaefer myself, but whatever) besides Udall. The man can't be trusted at all.

Steve

Udall, convince us
Let's hear it on the house floor. Let's here about getting domestic oil, used by our nation, using an American market to set prices. We've been weakened as a nation from decades of manufacturing exodus and greater reliance on just about everything from foreign sources. So put your new change of sanity on the record, not just lip service - let's see the affirmative votes! Otherwise, I hope Colorado retires you.
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