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Monday, August 11, 2008
Mark Hillman :: Townhall.com Columnist
What Would Obama Fight For?
by Mark Hillman
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Unless you've been imbibing 100-proof hope-and-change, you could hardly listen to President — er, make that, Candidate — Obama's Berlin speech without questioning whether there is anything that he is truly willing to fight for. Not merely fighting metaphorically or deploying persuasive prose, but actually committing American lives to defend a principle that must not be compromised.

When Obama's campaign appropriated Brandenburg Gate as the backdrop for his "citizen of the world" speech, his handlers certainly expected the venue to frame him in a distinctly presidential stature.

Instead, the staging created an unmistakable contrast between courageous presidents who faced down genuine threats from dangerous enemies and the empty, self-aggrandizing platitudes of Obama, who seems to take for granted his election and now awaits transfiguration.

Obama talked about the 1948 Soviet blockade intended to enslave Berliners under communist domination, but he then suggested that "the people of the world" rose up to save Berlin.

Nonsense.

The Allies' initial plan for post-war reconstruction of Germany faltered. (No, George W. Bush isn't the first president to have trouble transitioning from war against a uniformed enemy to uniting a conquered people and rebuilding their country.)

The Soviet communists, with a numerically superior military, saw the chance to seize control of an isolated people, but President Truman guided America, aided by Great Britain, to sustain a herculean airlift — more than 278,000 flights — that provided food and coal for isolated Berliners for nearly 11 months.

Obama recalled how the mayor of Berlin exhorted his people and "the people of the world" to "stand together united until this battle is one."

But Obama's record toward the people of Iraq is just the opposite. Had his view prevailed, the world would have turned its back on the Iraqis, allowing Saddam Hussein to continue his reign of terror, torture, murder and rape. Rather than help Iraqis secure their freedom, Obama's policy of retreat in the face of adversity would have told the people of Baghdad, "We're outta here; fend for yourselves."

So far, nothing about Obama indicates that he places a higher value on courage than on protecting his popularity.

President Kennedy's 1961 visit demonstrated solidarity with citizens of West Berlin when the Soviets divided the city by constructing the Berlin Wall. Kennedy's declaration, "ich bin ein Berliner," was considered too provocative by his own national security advisors.

When President Reagan called upon Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev to "tear down this wall," he was discouraged by his advisors and ridiculed in Europe as a "warmonger." Whereas Obama's superfluous speech attracted 200,000, Reagan's now-historic speech was witnessed by just 20,000 Germans — in contrast to 25,000 who protested against him.

Seventeen months later, Reagan was vindicated when the wall did come down. What could possibly be significant about Obama's speech 17 months from now?

When Obama claims "a wall came down, a continent came together, and history proved that there is no challenge too great for a world that stands as one," he proves that just because a speaker is captivating, he doesn't necessarily know what he's talking about.

The world certainly did not stand "as one" against Soviet communism. Much of the world either was controlled by, supportive of or unwilling to confront the USSR.

Like Obama, Reagan's predecessor, Jimmy Carter, thought negotiation and accommodation could accomplish more than confrontation. Six months into his first term, Carter criticized our "inordinate fear of communism." He signed treaties that trusted the Soviets, without verification, to limit their nuclear arsenal. By the end of his term, the Soviets had invaded Afghanistan and Iranian revolutionaries seized the U.S. embassy in Tehran.

Truman, Kennedy and Reagan earned their places in history because they believed that freedom — even for people in a foreign land — was worth fighting for. Freedom's enemies were moved not by words but by the conviction that our presidents would back their words with action.

Obama's talk tickles the ears of his audiences, but so far nothing indicates that he is prepared, in the manner of Teddy Roosevelt, to "speak softly and carry a big stick."

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Mark Hillman is a Colorado native, a farmer, "recovering journalist" and a former Majority Leader of the Colorado Senate.
Wait a minute ...
he fights to protect his wife!

Obama is a racist...
He hates white people and his religion tells him to do so.

If you read about Black Liberation Theology the only conclusion that can be drawn is that he is a racist and BLT is a racist religion.

The stuff that Jeremiah Wright preaches about is just standard garden-variety BLT.

He will run the US military into the ground and dismantle this nation because at the root of his BLT is a hatred for this country.

What would he fight for ---
Who knows. This guy designed his own presidential seal, removed the American flag symbol from his campaign plane -- on which there is a chair which has printed on its back "President Obama." In his mind he is already President of the United States. God
help us all if this empty suit moves into the White House. He is acclaimed for his speeches, but without the teleprompter and speeches written for him -- not by him -- he stammers and stutters.

ropati:
No, he complains and whines to protect his wife.

FIGHT FOR?
Last time I checked the Constitution it's CONGRESS that DECLARES WAR!!

The Obomanal Snowjob
Are we talking about Mohammed Barak Bin Hussein Al-Obama ? The guy with the Che poster and the Cuban flag hanging on the wall inside his Houston, TX campaign office ? Yeah... Ol' B.O. is a real stand-up guy

It's the POTUS
that leads the Congress and then the country into war, Rogue Cowboy.

Not Worth the Fight
Who will B. Hussein fight for? Well, he will fight to protect Bill Ayers who is just a friendly terrorist who lives in his neighborhood. He will fight to protect Jeremiah Wright who was his racist, anti-American mentor and 'minister' for 20 years. He will fight to protect himself and his friends from scrutiny or criticism. However, he won't fight to protect fetuses of botched abortions from murder a second time. He won't fight to defend the earnings of the American taxpayer. He won't fight to defend the American way of life. He won't even defend his white grandmother. He has never fought to defend his nation. One has to pick one's fights and some things are just not worth fighting for now, are they?

Obama won't fight
Obama is an anti-American who hates white people.

He's bought into the leftist views of America as stated by Bill Ayers and Jerome Wright. Obama will "change" this country into a third-world socialist state.

The payoff for him is unknown. I guess that he will be appointed to some lofty position in the new world order run by the international socialists consisting of people like George Soros.

Obama is dangerous not because he's a smart guy, but because he's an ideologue who sees America as something evil and who wants to destroy it.

"YES HE WILL"
In obamas own words, in his book, he wrote that in conflict he would stand with muslims.
This proves beyond a reasonable doubt, who he is and why he has surrounded himself with his anti-American associations (and choice of spouse), why he has been against the war in Iraq, why he thinks there are 57 U.S. States, why he belittles the true American way of life and true Americans who value their bible and the right to protect themselves, why he can go abroad and critize America then proclaim he is the one the WORLD has been waiting for.
Obama must think that in 8 years, he can turn the UNITED STATES into a muslim country, which he would then "Fight for". And then in 10 years, as he frequently refers to, he will be crowned "THE ONE" the "WORLD" has been waiting for. A muslim world????

O the clown!
Obama is more like a clown than anything else. Like a clown he puts on a false face when addressing an audience. "Just words", his words are like the clown's antics tricking us into believing something that isn't true. Like a clown, we have no idea who he really is, for everything he has said is a mirage. God help America, for the Democratic party nominating such a clown.

Obama will fight...
...for your right to...PARTY! Why is it a guy who partied with cocaine and other drugs can get away with this and nobody questions him...oh..did I mention he does not look like all those presidents on the dollar bills.

Rogue cowboy
So....whats your point. Our congress decides to take a vacation while the rest of the nation suffers. The country is left to....eat cake.

What will Obama fight for?
He will fight for yuppie lettuce. The most indignant I have ever heard this party animal refugee from the Sixties wax was at th price of some Yuppie lettuce at a mythical Whole Foods in Iowa.

In the immortal words of James Earl Jones: BACK! BACK! GET BACK TO THE SIXTIES! THERE IS NO PLACE FOR YOU HERE IN THE FUTURE!

Alright
Fall in!

For those of you that are interested, my blog is finally up and running.

Click on my name and come read "Blazing Obama."

'Nuff said.

Fall out!

Back when most Americans
were patriotic, a guy with this kind of rhetoric would have been run out of town on a rail.
Now, thanks to the liberals gaining control of the schools, the table has been set for a marxist like this to get elected. I cannot begin to understand how anyone with even half a brain cannot see what this guy is up to.
Who is this clown and how did he get to where he is today? That is the question. No-one can run for any elected office without the backing of the parties, the Chicago dem machine is as corrupt as any ever seen in this country and have always been lefties with an agenda. Obama cannot be the squeaky clean messiah he claims to be given his background, he is a packaged commodity being sold to the public like soap.
He is a nothing, a man with no experience whatsoever whose family is another zero in the ledger of accomplishments. Hippies and muslims and other assorted radicals were his early life experiences, we are all greatly influenced by our early up-bringing and you can see it in him.

20 years of listening to wright and his garbage, he never heard that?
He wasn't influenced by that?
How stupid does he think we are?
He doesn't have the love of country to be POTUS, it isn't in him, he'll sell us out to the islamos or the UN or anything else Soros tells him to do, this guy is bought and paid for and you vote for him at your countries peril.

What would he fight for?
Reparations and redistribution of AMERICAN wealth throughout the world.


b hussein a fighter?
seems very doubtrful and a dim fantasy at best.

In israel he said he wouldn't try to pronounce any of the names of the reporters less he offend any of them and he wanted them to be his friend.

That sums it all up. B hussein won't fight less he offend somebody. Better to surrender that risk being unpopular

Better question Mr Hillman
What would you send your kids to die for? Because that is what the stakes are. Name one principle that you would willingly send your own to risk horrible death and mutilation. In army of a republic, YOU would have your children ready to take their place in the defense of the polis. Somehow, I think the Hillmans will be safely away when future fighting starts and guys named Salazar, Broadus, Jackson and Morales will be doing the dirty work for them. Unless you are ready to commit your own blood to it stop hoping and getting giddy over the idea of war.

One thing Americans
do better than anyone is whine and complain. When President Obama does not deliver a world of strawberries and champaign, the whining will get thick and ugly very fast.

I predict this country will have had its fill of Barack Obama by the end of his second year in office.

More on that thought
Obama will soon come to the realization that the best part of his presidency was the campaign.

Norman Thomas
I wonder if BHO has done any reading of the perennial presidential candidate Norman Thomas, who said..."The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened."

Is it me, or is what BHO is espousing is so blatently socialist, that we are now looking past the idealogy of 'liberalism' and going directly to this utopian/communist/socialist/marxist mindset. How am I hearing this and the kool-aid drimkers aren't...(I've done a little sipping in my time, but was always lucid enough to snap out of it)

Myth #1: BO is smart
I am so sick of hearing how smart BO is. I'm sorry but the company he has kept over the years makes it clear that he isn't too smart. Anyone not understanding that Capitalism is superior to Socialist BS can't be that intelligent.

I know, I know there are oodles of college professors who are also not too smart. A PhD doesn't necessarily equate intelligence. It, too often, only means being able to memorize bias BS and add a little bit to the pile in a Politically Correct fashion that will please a bunch of other PhDs. A little like a cult - the wide eyed Marxist Socialist church! That's not intelligence just naive stupidity.

What would Obama fight for
Obama appears to be willing to fight for only two things:higher taxes and fewer babies. He wants to end world poverty through his bill in the senate called the Global Poverty Act which would result in a tax of about $2000 on every man, woman, and child and he favors abortions of all kinds even letting babies of botched abortions die without any attempt by anyone to comfort them in their last hours of life. Is this the kind of person who should be president?

Jack
What a gross little rhetorical tyrade. As a white person whose family has had at least one Marine in every generation since the 1820's I am completely discussted at your attitude that our modern military is full of enslaved people of color. All men and women sign willingly on the dotted line. They are all patriots willing to defend us. To imply that somehow people of color are duped (as if they are that stupid) into service for the white-man is beyond disgusting! You have dishonored the proud people of all colors in our military with your petty words, and have shown yourself for the fool you are. You may have aimed your comments at the author of this article, but you have only accomplished showing your hatred for our military.

Edna
Your neocon mind tricks will not work on me. I am in the military and see plenty of people with the names in my earlier post. What I don't see a lot of are the kids of think tank types like Fred Kagan, Bill Kristol, or the writer of this wretched article.

I challenge the writer of this sick, pro war trash to tell me what is willing to have his children blown to pieces over. War isn't a game and it isn't a parlor discussion. It is a real and ugly event where 21 year old kids get blown to red mist. One should not speak too cavalierly about it.

Somewhere in Mada'in Province Iraq.

Obama Would Fight to:
1)Force every American to rise at 0630 for mandatory PT in thier front yards. Afterwards, every American would face Mecca....

2)to remove our cynicism, laziness, and slothfull ways.

3)to put every school age child in a mandatory Community Service Corps (ie the Libs own version of the Nazis Hitler Jugend).

4)to give every American a bike.

5)to confiscate every automobile (of course, the liberal elites can keep thier Audis, and Citation jets)

6)Ensure that every woman gets sterilized after her first child.

7)Ensure that every American is put on a strict diet of organic lettuce, nuts, and strip bark.

8)jail any American who fails to perform steps 1-7 to his wishes.

Obama
The man is either stupid or vapid. Maybe both. He should have studied history at his prestigious college. Or was he an affirmative action student that traded on his race to get a diploma? He sure didn't learn anything.

Declaring War
Roguecowboy - The president has the authority to engage in undeclared wars. Congress has only declared war five times in its history: War of 1812, Mexican War, Spanish-American War, World War I, World War II.

Jack
You really need to update your talking points. The Chicken Little schtick is sooo 2004. Besides, no one here including the author of the op-ed is running for Commander-in-Chief. The question is legitimate, has been legitimate for 200+ years.

And please, don't attempt to close off debate by using the old canard that you somehow have moral superiority by currently serving in Iraq. You must not have it too bad if you can blog from some internet cafe in the rear. When I served in the Gulf War, I spent 10 months eating sand, eating cold MREs, and getting sprayed down by cold water from the water lorries. The highlight of my tour was getting a hold of a SATPHONE once to call back to my family in Germany. Things can't be too bad for you if you have to the time to troll the internet.

tearing down walls
Obana's vision of tearing down walls between Christians, Jews and muslims means only one thing.. They will worship the same god..That god will be allah..Obama is just another facet of jihad.. How else could muslims defeat Christian America except as president of USA....
His religious belief is that all religions lead to god and all men are children of god.. Of course that god would be allah. not the lowly son of god Jesus....

Wake up guys..Obama is muslims messiah..He plans for (global poverty tax)to feed and clothe and educate the poor (muslim lands) and ending all agression in muslim lands and this is only the beginning..

Obama would never fight for America
as it is today. He's a black racist bent on the destruction of the white middle power structure. He will promote all minorities, redistribute the wealth, and restructure the entire country so it is minority ruled and owned. The man is a Marxist who will be the absolute death of America. Any white person voting for this man has suicidal tendencies.

Obama would fight for
a palce in front of a camera!

To stop the vote for a Born Alive Protection Act in Chicago giving the right to life of a baby that is born alive during an abortion attempt.

To side with the teacher's union in Chicago who work less than a full days and average 20% pay higer than the national average causing students to have less time in the classroom.

For a communist presidential candiate in Africa


Obama's great fraud
is that he spent thousands of campaign dollars to go to Afghanistan and then proclaimed the conflict there in need of more US ground troops.

BUT HE WAS GIFTED WITH A SUBCOMMITTEE ON NATO AND AFGHANISTAN WHEN HE WAS ELECTED TO THE SENATE AND HAS NEVER TO THIS DAY CONVENED A MEETING OF HIS SUBCOMMITTEE.

Had he once held a meeting on NATO and Afghanistan he might have acquired some real knowledge about that engagement long before he ever became a candidate for the presidency.

Obama is a slouch who does not do his homework or conduct his responsibilities even when they would aid him against accusations of inexperience.

He could have years of info gathering from his subcommittee hearings and in investigations but is too lazy, arrogant, stupid, and fraudulent to actually show some leadership and meet the few Senatorial duties that he has.

A vote for him is a vote for nothingness.

The REAL fighters are
The Congressmen that stayed in spite of Pelosi turning off the lights.

See My BLOG for a parody of The Night the Lights Went Off in Congress.

Click my handle, or book mark
http://mrspaddy.blogtownhall.com/default.aspx

he will fight for
to protect the honor of the anti american preacher Wright

to protect wife's anti american speech

the right to claim McCain is nothing but old washington - when he has Clinton's past advisers and cabinet members in his campaign

the right to blame McCain for everything wrong that has happened in Washington but not to give him credit for anything right that has happened in Washington - of course in his defense I think his anti american anger has blinded him from seeing how great this country is and all the great things that we have done...

the right to claim JFK helped get his father to America to study when it was actually the American public (the white man) who donated money for the airlift his father was a part of

the right to claim he is a product of Selma, AL march when he was born before it happened.


Ozama behind the curtain
would fight for only HIMSELF - he uses any means to any ends to get what he wants for his own power and waelth.
How can any Catholics who all profess to be Pro-Life vote for Obama who is willing to kill babies born alive from attempted abortions????? As a matter of fact, what American voter could?
How can anyone who believes in freedom and our Constitution vote for Obama who believes in socialism and redistribution of wealth and rewriting the Constitution?
How can anyone who believes in a free capitalist economy where anyone can make money vote for Obama who is not even invested in the capitalist market, but makes his money through connections to corrupt politicians.
How can anyone vote for Obama who love the United States when Obama finds his values and friendships among those who clearly despise the USA and would like to see her destroyed: Ayers, Wright, Rezko, Alinsky.
How can anyone vote for Obama whose ignorance concerning American and world history is embarrassing - the man who wants to be president believes the USA consists of 57 states??????
How can anyone vote for Obama who believes in an International Court to try Americans and our military?
CNN?s Situation Room showed Obama discussing his plan for ending the Iraq war, saying he would "call in the Joint Chiefs of Staff,and give them a new mission, and that is to bring the war in Iraq to a close." One problem: it's not the job of the Joint Chiefs of Staff -- the war is under the jurisdiction of CENTCOM.
Obama is a sham - a pathetic, amoral self-delusional, self-centered idiot.
Mr. Cotton Candy is an appeaser.
Obama would even survive a pillow fight without getting feathers stuck in his Dumbo ears and crying about it.
Oblahma can't even spell fight - unless he's throwing the USA under a socialist bus.

Obama
It is a sad day for America when politicians ignore faulty rhetoric from this Democratic candidate, who are so eager to gain the control of all of our governmnet that they will put cotton in their ears and blindly accept the rhetoric designed to win votes at the cost of our history and accomplishments on the world scene. What will it take to wake us up? Another 9/11?

jack,
As is typical of the leftist trolls that infest these threads.

Parents do not send out their kids to to do things. With a volunteer armed forces, our brave men and women have chosen to defend this country.

But the left being abject cowards won't fight to defend anything except their belief they should be in charge of everything and that other than power over fellow citizens there are no values they will defend except the right for women to get abortions

But not to fear, many brave citizens will protect you while you sit in the corner, suck you thumb while crying you are a victim

Jack @ 10:22 AM
Gee, kid, sounds like you're having a rough time of it over there . . . in fact, sounds like the war isn't something you signed up for . . . what exactly did you think the military's main mission is when you signed up??

Military units exist to kill people and destroy supplies and equipment (or support those that do). It's that simple, but it seems you only got the part where they told you you'd get 3 hots, a cot and a steady paycheck.

Stop whining, kid. Better men than you have made it through combat in one piece.

What Would Obama Fight For?
BHO: I'm here to talk about supporting me as ruler of the world.

Imadinnerjacket: OK!

BHO: Whatcha lookin' at, B---h?

Imadinnerjacket: I'm looking at a uppity N----r!

BHO: Stand up, Ho, and I'll show you who is uppity.

Somehow
I doubt Jack is in the military.

Jack in GA
You disrespect everyone who has given in the cause of the freedom you enjoy (and abuse IMO)
Shame on you.

Fight? NOT
I get the sense that everything having come quite easily to the gifted Mr. Obama, that he would not be willing to fight for anything much.
Anyone can see he's a person who'd give up... real easy.

I also sense that in his view, it wouldn't be worth alot to fight for America.


John McCain on the other hand...

What would
Hussein fight for?

A mosque in the middle of the WH.

A mosque in the middle of the Capitol.

The right to mutilate all women.

The right to behead conservatives.

The right to mandate Islamic-fascism.

Total control over everybody else.

Many other terrible things that he must be stopped from doing and getting.

Beware
Beware the glib and idealistic politician. Many of the world's great evils have been committed by glib, idealistic politicians.

JPK #27
(6)...after first child, and mutilated by age 6.

Jack
Ahhh Jack. What a sad empty soul you are. I feel very sorry for you.My 1st ancestor came here in 1638. We have fought in the Revolutionary War, Civil War (3 members), WW1,
WW 11 (my aunt was one of the first WAC's),and my son-in-law is on his 3rd tour of duty in Iraq.We know something about pride and are willing to fight for what is right. What would Obama fight for? He probably doesn't know because he isn't in charge. Think about it. A completely unknown man with no experience raises close to $1 BILLION for his campaigns. I don't think so. Find out who is pulling his strings (maybe Soros?) and you will have your answer. It won't be pretty.

Well, here on display is the voice of
Red America I guess. Yes, I am in the military and I am writing this after getting back from a combat patrol. I wrote that war is ugly and isn't a light affair and questioned this author on what he would send his own kids to fight over. What I got instead was a lot of hate from the townhall.com crowd. I guess Red America likes its military so long as it shuts up and doesn't take part in the debate. An all volunteer military makes it easy to deploy and use all over the world--especially when it isn't your own getting shot at I suppose.

For the Gulf War vet, get with the times man. We are in year 5 of an occupation and MWR and NIPR access is available all the time. TOC rats like me do most my work on NIPR machines. Then we pull patrols. Far from being on the FOB, we are forward deployed as you can get--on a combat outpost.

Hit the Road, Jack
This is a forum where people argue and discuss. If you want a forum in which to pontificate without recrimination, start a blog and turn off the comments section.

(1) Nobody SENDS her kids to war these days. We have a volunteer military and in point of fact at the moment I could not get my kids to sign up if I offered them their own country to rule. They will change their minds when they are old enough to have families. Right now it would not be a matter of SENDING them to fight.

(2) I would, though, go to fight in person, when my country called for me. If you think an old lady like me would not be any use, you need to find a copy of "Spirit of Dorsai" and read about how an old lady like me and a gang of kids, old people and the disabled fought off a modern invading army -- because they all knew there were some things that ARE worth dying for, and the invading army thought like you do.

ack joined for the condos and hot tubs
Remember Private Benjamin?

It's sad when one of these peace-time volunteers gets real-world woke-up in real war. The reality is that we have a military for these situations and a part of the job description of a military member is that you will possibly have to shoot other people and maybe be shot at or even killed in the line of duty. That's what you're paid for and, btw, today's military is WELL compensated for their sacrifice. The men in my family who served in previous wars would have LOVED to have gotten what today's military gets paid, even factored in those long-ago dollars. My aunts lived with my grandparents in order to keep roofs over their children's heads during WW2, that's how little their volunteer husbands were paid for fighting overseas. My uncle Fred, who spent 4 1/2 years in Europe with no stateside leaves, would have LOVED the one-year rotations these guys have now.

I live in a big military town -- four bases within easy driving driving distance and two more within a day -- and I'd say there's a fair racial mix in our current military (I can't speak for Marines or Navy, because we're all Army and AirForce here). For every person of ethnic origin I know in the military, I know three Caucasians and you know what, that's probably about a right racial mix based on the population percentage of the country. Most of the military retirees I know joined the Army because they couldn't afford to go to college, but they got their degrees while they were in -- paid for completely by Uncle Sam -- and now they have good jobs on the outside, securing a second retirement ontop of their 20. So, please, don't try to tell me that we're enslaving people in the military. If you didn't get what you thought you were getting, you didn't do your homework very well, Jack, and that's not our fault. That's yours!

Yes, They are That Stupid
Obama is a typical liberal-Democrat. He will pander endlessly to special interest victim groups, and the military isn't one of them. So, it is regarded as a waste of money that could be spent buying black votes, or gay votes, or feminist votes, or...

It's all of a piece: world community, let the UN handle everything, passivism, dismantling the military, spend on social engineering, big government, small rights... Just one big happy global utopia, with Obama as Emperor. And the fawning Obamessiah acolytes will buy the whole absurd package because yes, they really are that stupid.

Jack
Get off it, Jack. You sound more like a REMF than front lines. During combat operations we didn't have time for politics and all that BS; it was mission, mission, and mission. Politics was when we returned stateside. From your posts, you sound like a troll than a solider.

You obviously don't come here to debate as you haven't once offered up an argument other than your Chicken Hawk routine. This blog is about Obama and his fitness to be Commander-in-Chief. Civilians have a right to offer thier opinions, which you fail to address. And please don't talk to me about Red States. The military has voted overwhelmingly GOP (75% in the last 2 elections). In Army and Marine combat MOSs, retention is up over 70%, with over 80% wanting to return to Iraq until the job is done.

Now, please tell me how Obama is qualified based on his background to be Commander-in-Chief.


JPK
Yeah, and how many of those votes did the
DemonRATS sandbag in the last few elections, and how many will they try to sandbag this election.

What in sam hill did you enlist for Jack?
You could gripe if you'd been drafted but you
CHOSE to enlist. It sounds as if you've seen
some friends killed or wounded, if you truly are over there, and for that I'm sorry and I'm grateful that there are such men and women as
they. They are made of the stuff that made
this country what it is, and when you gripe, you are demeaning the sacrifice and courage of
all of them.

JPK:
JPK said "When I served in the Gulf War, I spent 10 months eating sand, eating cold MREs, and getting sprayed down by cold water from the water lorries. The highlight of my tour was getting a hold of a SATPHONE once to call back to my family in Germany."

Thank you for having done all of these things, and for all that you didn't mention. Thanks to your family also, for the sacrifices you all made for love of America. America loves UGuys for your courage and we are eternally grateful.


Jack doesn't sound genuine
A military man wouldn't speak in terms of sending one's kids to fight for whatever. These are liberal fantasies. Adults enlist and/or join in service to the nation in the capacity determined by the civilian leadership.

It wouldn't be the first time someone created a phony background to use as a stage - haven't Wil and good 'ole Hal already been exposed for such?

Obama will fight to the death
for the rights of white women to kill their unborn children and he will equally fight to the death to pay illegal immigrants and crack whores to breed subsidized children.

And in all speech fairness, Obama's Berlin speech came with a free concert & free beer.
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