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Thursday, October 09, 2008
Mario Diaz :: Townhall.com Columnist
Obama-Biden Judicial Litmus Test Exposed, But Who Cares?
by Mario Diaz
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To hear Senator and vice-presidential candidate Joe Biden (D-Delaware) make the claim was surprising, but not nearly as shocking as the lack of attention paid to his remarks.  We heard about moderator Gwen Ifill’s book on Obama, we heard about vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin’s wit and blunders, we heard about Biden’s experience, but nothing about this.  At the end of the recent vice-presidential debate, we heard a very interesting question asked of the candidates:

Ifill: Can you think of a single issue, policy issue, in which you were forced to change a long-held view in order to accommodate changed circumstances?

Sen. Biden: Yes, I can.  When I got to the United States Senate and went on the Judiciary Committee as a young lawyer, I was of the view, and had been trained in the view, that the only thing that mattered was whether or not a nominee appointed, suggested by the president, had a judicial temperament, had not committed a crime of moral turpitude, and was — had been a good student.  And it didn’t take me long — it was hard to change, but it didn’t take me long, but it took about five years for me to realize that the ideology of that judge makes a big difference.

A judge’s ideology is what drives Sen. Biden’s decision on whether to vote for a judicial nominee?  Isn’t a judge supposed to follow the law as enacted by the people’s representatives, even when he doesn’t agree ideologically with the policy behind that law? 

If judges are to abide by the Constitution and the laws enacted by the legislature, then it doesn’t really matter if they are Republicans or Democrats, whether they favor higher taxes, or drilling, or legalizing drugs. 

But apparently the law is not a very big deal for Sen. Biden.  He looked at that when he was young and inexperienced.  Now Sen. Biden knows that a judge must comport with his own personal ideology.

Sen. Biden’s view is so contemptible that not even his running-mate has had the audacity to say it out loud.  In fact, in an e-mail response to one of the many Illinois members of Concerned Women for America, Senator and presidential candidate Barack Obama (D-Illinois) said, “While I have no litmus test for judges, my bottom line is confidence that a judicial nominee will respect the constitutionally protected rights of all Americans and resist the temptation to substitute personal ideology for legal reasoning” (Emphasis added).

If a judge is not to substitute his ideology for legal reasoning, why is his ideology so important?  Then again, remember that Obama was elected to the Senate in 2004, so he has not had the full five years to “evolve” as Sen. Biden did.  And although Sen. Obama resists at first sight Sen. Biden’s revealing ideological litmus test, he shamelessly employs the same tactics even while denouncing them.

In the same e-mail to our CWA member he explained:

I believe, however, that a judicial nominee with a history of undermining settled law like Roe v. Wade deserves greater scrutiny.  Nominees to the federal bench who are out-of-step with mainstream America should not be confirmed.  That is why in the past I have opposed the nominations of Supreme Court Justices Roberts and Alito…

Indeed. 

Sen. Obama does not want to use ideology, but he wants to know if the nominee is “out-of-step with the mainstream.”  So maybe we should inquire into a nominee’s musical tastes.  You know, are they keeping up with the times?  Maybe senators should be quizzed on America’s favorite TV shows: “Mr. Nominee, are you familiar with Dr. Meredith Grey and Dr. Derek Shepherd?”  Or maybe we should look at the way they dress.

It’s actually ironic that Sen. Obama would claim to have no litmus test and then mention his “mainstream test” and his reverence of Roe v. Wade in reference to his “no” vote for Chief Justice John Roberts.

In his Senate testimony, then-Supreme Court nominee John Roberts acknowledged that, at the Appellate Court level, he had an obligation to respect the precedents established by the Supreme Court, including the controversial decisions regarding abortion.  He specifically said that Roe v. Wade was the settled law of the land and that there was nothing in his personal views that would prevent him from fully and faithfully applying that precedent.

Still, something in Sen. Obama’s ideology did not permit him to vote for an obviously well-qualified nominee by any reasonable standard.  His Senate statement reflects his internal dilemma:

Given that background, I am sorely tempted to vote for Judge Roberts based on my study of his résumé, his conduct during the hearings, and a conversation I had with him yesterday afternoon.  

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind Judge Roberts is qualified to sit on the highest court in the land. Moreover, he seems to have the comportment and the temperament that makes for a good judge.  He is humble, he is personally decent, and he appears to be respectful of different points of view.  It is absolutely clear to me that Judge Roberts truly loves the law.  He couldn’t have achieved his excellent record as an advocate before the Supreme Court without that passion for the law, and it became apparent to me in our conversation that he does, in fact, deeply respect the basic precepts that go into deciding 95 percent of the cases that come before the Federal court — adherence to precedence, a certain modesty in reading statutes and constitutional text, a respect for procedural regularity, and an impartiality in presiding over the adversarial system. All of these characteristics make me want to vote for Judge Roberts (Emphasis added). 

But Sen. Obama did not vote for the Chief Justice.  He was actually worried about something more than his qualifications.  Dare I say, he was worried about his “ideology.”  Sen. Obama’s actions seem to suggest that the law will only get you so far, and then a judge must determine cases “on the basis of one’s deepest values, one’s core concerns, one’s broader perspectives on how the world works, and the depth and breadth of one’s empathy.”

Scary. 

Sen. Obama voted against Chief Justice Roberts.  He voted against Justice Samuel Alito and Leslie Southwick.  And he told our members he would not vote in favor of Richard Honaker because of his pro-life ideology.    

Call it litmus test, an ideological test, a mainstream test, or call it what you want, but if it is up to Sen. Obama and Sen. Biden, judicial nominees must share the two senators’ ideology or they are not “fit” to serve our country. 

I tend to think that’s a big deal, but maybe it’s just me.

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Don Juan comment about Gov. Palin
Anyone who would call a governor and VP nominee a MILF, has no class.

Personally, I would take her, her down to earth attitude and her executive experience over a non-experienced Harvard lawyer any day.

Its just you
It is not a coincidence that all of Bush's judicial appointments shared his ideologies, both political and judicial. Nor is it a coincidence that none of the many qualified jurists who do not share Bush's ideology received appointments. That is rather the point of saying that who the president is matters.

The question that Biden dealt with is whether it is only the president who should take keep things in mind, or whether it is the Senate in its role of advise and consent that should as well. So most of this argument is rather inane. Nobody is objecting to the idea of considering potential justice's ideology, only at what stage they should be considered. So the blanket condemnation of the idea makes no sense.

The rest of the argument is as silly. Judges are supposed to judge on the merits of the law. Judges in fact judge on the basis of their ideologies in applying the law. Would anyone who was not as privileged as Roberts and Scalito have been think that the proper standard for when a discrimination suit can be filed is when the discrimination started rather than when it was discovered? That tortured reading is pure ideology. And it would be silly for Senators to vote based on how they wished things work rather than how they actually do.

Don Juan shoots his four blanks


It's no secret all Democrats are in bed with the abortion lobby. You just read this article showing you all the exhibits.

Thank you, Mario Diaz, for the heads up.

Why don't you finish your diatribes by admitting then, that your reason for slurring Sarah Palin have nothing to do with her gaffes or being a MILF? That she only offends your sensitivity on account of her Pro-Life "ideology." What kind of a coward are you, Don Juan? Say it just as Biden/Obambi; both Planned Parenthood MILF bastreds, have dared to say it.

You don't have enough guts. But you can spray out four indecent posts at the outer regions of cyberspace. (Using a stupid pseudonym.) What a nincompoop!

BHO,HE WONT TAKE A LITMUS TEST!
RIGHT ON DIAZ!! A GOLD MEDAL ARTICLE,OBAMA SAYS I AM A CHRISTIAN,BUT DONT ANYBODY QUESTION MY FAITH,I WILL NOT TAKE A LITMUS TEST,SAYS OBAMA,HE ASK JOE BIDEN IN PRIVATE,JOE IS THERE A LITMUS TEST?,IS THERE JOE??I HOPE NOT!OBAMA WANTS 5 RUTH BADER GINGSEBERGS,THEN WE HAVE NO CONSERVATIVES ON THE SUPREME COURT!

to don juan! the obama trol IL,
with ruth bater ginsberg,and 5 more just like her we have no rights!go read your harry potter book!

joe biden
I think we can say, without equivocation, that we know exactly what kind of man joe biden is (lack of CAPS is intentional). We have seen this man operate for years and there is no lie, no cheating and no plagiarism that is beyond him in pursuing his agenda.
This small, mean, unintelligent (86 out of his class of 95 in law school) grown-up version of the school yard bully has made a career out of smearing men far better than HE will EVER be. Personally, I will never forget what he did to Robert Bork.
I'm sure the family of the truck driver killed in the same accident that killed biden's wife and daughter would agree-"husaria.wordpress.com"

Everyone has an ideaology
Of the 154 nominations to the U.S. Supreme Court between 1789 and 2004, 34
were not confirmed by the Senate. The 34 nominations represent 29 individuals
whose names were sent forward to the Senate by Presidents (some individuals were
nominated more than once). Of the 29 individuals who failed to be confirmed the
first time they were nominated, however, five were later nominated again and
confirmed.

The supreme court nomination is one of the most important things a President will do. It will have long lasting effects on the interpretation laws of our nation.

That is why someone as far to the extreme left as Sen Obama is so much worse then a more moderate leftist like Pres Clinton.

tinsldr2@yahoo.com

Roe v. Wade
The Roe v. Wade decision is what is known as "Bad Law." The Constitutional basis for the decision was flimsy at best, particularly in light of the history of abortion law in this country, and the authority of the Supreme Court to make the decision -- which involved reviewing STATE laws without a clear and direct prohibition against those laws in the Constitution -- violates both Article III, section 2 (Which covers the Federal Judiciary's Jurisdiction) and the 10th Amendment to the Constitution (Which states that all powers not expressly reserved to the federal government nor prohibited to the states are reserved to the states). The decision itself was Unconstitutional.

why ignore what I asked?


Come on, Don Porn,

If we needed for you to say who's your ideal, fine. You like porn and MILFs.

But in that flurry of pretentious posts you bore people with,

Haven't you the guts to admit it's her Pro-Life significance causes you to revile and hate Palin? Not the silly pretexts about her? You want babies killed, and she speaks out against you. She wouldn't kill even the innocent Downs baby.

This is what clutches at your short hairs! She's an enemy of abortion "rights." Give up the other BS, admit this is your big hatred.

Abortion and 14th Amendment
Don writes in defense of the Supreme Court Decision on Roe Vs Wade that the "Fourteenth Amendment into account; thereunder, no state has the right to deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without due process "

Except it is precisley the 14th that is the issue. Almost 50% of the people who go into abortion clinics are deprived of their life without any due process.

DonJ #13: Oh, give us a break!!!
"[Palin]is spectacularly under-qualified to be President."

Really? Okay, one more time for the intellectually limited liberal.....

MSNBC's Ron Allen said to the former Speaker, "But to be fair, her resume is not something we're familiar seeing with presidential candidates."

Gingrich's response:

Gov. Palin has been....

1. a mayor, Marxist Obama has NOT.

2. governor, Marxist Obama has NOT.

3. in charge of the Alaskan National Guard, Marxist Obama has NOT.

4. a whistleblower who defeated an incumbent mayor. He has never once shown that kind of courage, Marxist Obama has NOT.

5. a whistleblower who turned in the chairman of her own party and got him fined $12,000, Marxist Obama has NOT.

6. took on the incumbent governor of her own party and beat him, Marxist Obama has NOT.

7. beat a former Democratic governor in the general election, Marxist Obama has NOT.

As Gingrich said, "I don't know of a single thing Obama's done except talk and write."

Now, you twit, who is "spectacularly under-qualified to be President?"

"She's about as sharp as a bowling ball, as proven beyond cavil in the Katie Couric interview."

And AGAIN, one more time for the intellectually limited liberal... Couric's interview, as was Gibson's, EDITED specifically to show Palin in as bad a light as possible....

Now, who's about as sharp as a bowling ball?

That would be YOU, donJ... YOU, YOU, YOU!


Anne
In answer to your question, Palin is the one who appears to be woefully unqualified. She does not seem to have given serious thought to any of the issues that are central to the job of President. And the job of Vice President is to be ready to be President.

Don and his avoidance issues
Notice how don J brings up the issue of abortion but then when challenged on the issue changes the cases totally.

then he tries to lay a neat little trap for me. The Dred Scott decision was before the 13th, and 14th were passed and slavery was the rule of the land.

Now I find slavery in all its forms unacceptable and detestable. Every year I celebrate my peoples deliverance from slavery.

However, the question here is should slavery have been decided by a few justices on the Supreme Court or by the will of the people.

I have to say the will of the people and here is why. America was much to slow in stopping slavery. However, even then it took a War to make the Southern states give up the practice. If the Supreme Court had decided the issue instead of THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE how many in the North would have been willing to fight a war to stop succession?

Now would James Buchannen have went to war and WON the war if we had outlawed slavery on the say so of the Supreme Court?

The first states actually succeeded after Buchannen lost to Lincoln but before Lincoln was sworn in. Buchannen who was a democrat did nothing to prevent them.

Bottom line is if the Supreme Court had decided the issue on the correct moral grounds, the elimination of slavery, but not the constitutional grounds the south would have succeeded and we would not have went to war and slavery would possibly have existed much longer in a divided country.

So why do you think Justices should MAKE law even if the majority don't want it,not rule on existing laws.

Would the country have been better if the south succeeded under Buchannen instead of Lincoln?

don juan you talk like obama!
no one can understand you or obama!e-mail cnn-news or the bbc news they will like your nonsense!DON JUAN THE LITTLE OBAMA TROL.

One of Gov palin's strongest points
Don J say's "The editing doesn't change the fact that she couldn't answer questions that any pol would be able to answer in a heartbeat."

Good point. She is NOT a typical POLITICIAN. She just doesn't think like that.

She has common sense and stands on all the correct issues. She has sound judgements and she is running for VICE President under a remarkably well qualified President.

The man she is running against thinks health care is a RIGHT. Not something I earn with the sweat of my brow, but a RIGHT that i CAN FORCE someone else to give me.

That is just one issue in a range of MARXIST /SOCIALIST positions that Sen Obama has.

We like Gov Palin because she is NOT your dime a dozen politician and she is definatly not a Marxist.


Don and Gov Palin
Don J say's "The editing doesn't change the fact that she couldn't answer questions that any pol would be able to answer in a heartbeat."

Good point. She is NOT a typical POLITICIAN. She just doesn't think like that.

She has common sense and stands on all the correct issues. She has sound judgements and she is running for VICE President under a remarkably well qualified President.

The man she is running against thinks health care is a RIGHT. Not something I earn with the sweat of my brow, but a RIGHT that i CAN FORCE someone else to give me.

That is just one issue in a range of MARXIST /SOCIALIST positions that Sen Obama has.

We like Gov Palin because she is NOT your dime a dozen politician and she is definatly not a Marxist.


Don Juan - where's your common sense
First of all, you can't make something a basic right that requires the labor of someone else to produce. You might argue that we have a shared responsibility to take care of the members of our society, but that is does not confer a basic right. Basic rights are things like free expression, religious freedom, representation, etc. What if we didn't have enough doctors? (Some would say that is already true.) Would you force some people to become doctors against their will so that others can have their "right" to healthcare? Anyone with common sense knows that you can't have a "right" to something that someone else has to produce for you.

Second, the reason healthcare is so expensive in this country is first of all because it is the best medical care in the world and also because my employer chooses my insurance for me instead of there being a free market for it. This means that I am completely removed from being able to negotiate the cost of my healthcare. Lack of price-sensitive consumers of healthcare means that there is no market competition to drive waste and excesive profits out of the system. Separate healthcare coverage from the only-in-one-state, mostly-through-employers shackles as McCain proposes, and you will see the best healthcare in the world stay that way and get cheaper at the same time. Economic analysis of McCain's plan proves that 95% of people would actually come out ahead, with more money in their pockets and healthcare tailored to their needs, since they chose it themselves.

Obama
Why has no one commented on what Obama said about health insurance in the latest debate. His comment was that Americans were entitled to the same kind of health insurance that he and McCain enjoyed as "EMPLOYEES OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.." Does he not get paid from my taxes??? As for "employer" -- is he not supposed to be working for me?

Don Juan betrays himself
So Don Juan thinks so much of himself that he writes 3 posts in a row, obviously plaigiarizing someone elses words and then betrays his youth and ignorance by calling Gov. Palin a MILF. Don Juan is just another Obama plant trying to sway public opinion by blogging on typically conservative blogs.

This, folks, is the real danger Obama presents to this nation. He and his followers are trying to control every aspect of our world.

According to statistics America is 76.5% Christian. If that was really true, Obama would lose by a landslide. Sadly, I'm afraid the term "Christian" is over used. Obama stands for everything that is or could be wrong with this country in the future, and yet it appears that he and his goofball sidekick Biden may win this election. This bodes badly for America and reflects a growing cancer from within. The Arabs think he's their friend; the blacks think he going to do great things for them, and the whites think by voting for Obama they will either prove they are not racist or that a vote for Obama represents a vote for the little guy. Well, none of you are right. Obama is a racist, a socialist and an elitest...I dare say he thinks so highly of himself, he might appoint himself dictator! Couple that with a democratic congress, and we have a recipe for disaster.

Don Juan - go find a real job! America WAKE UP

Don Juan - Rights vs Responsibilities
If you think the distinction is semantic, you don't understand the difference between choice and force. As for using life expectancy to determine the quality of healthcare, that is completely the wrong statistic. For one thing, there is a lot more violent crime in the US, which leads to shorter life expectancies, no matter how good the healthcare. Our healthcare is the best quality, that's why those that can afford it come here. As for administrative costs, you are right. But those are the kind of costs that are reduced when you have competition.

Don Juan
Cut the insults. Abortion is the killing of babies. If you don't think there is anything at all wrong with that, then I will pray for you. But don't call people "nutters" because they believe that innocent human life deserves protection.

Obama's judicial criteria
The following is a quote of Obama at ABC at this link http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/MatchoMatic/fullpage?id=554 2139
The quote: "We need somebody who's got the heart, the empathy, to recognize what it's like to be a teenage mom, to be poor, or African-American, or gay, or disabled, or old. And that's the criteria by which I'm going to be selecting my judges." Barack Obama
I would posit that what Obama would reply to Concerned Women for America has no basis in truth or reality. It all depends on who he's talking to.
The quote above should cause every American to quake in their shoes.


will say anything
Obama is a wounded child and will say anything to gain acceptence. I have read his books and its all there-the Dad who left the mom who died tha grandpa who didn't know what to do will this black child so he found a radical black male to mentor Obama in his informitive years.
Obama will jepodize this country for no other reason then he want acceptence. He has found it in all the wrong places.
Thats why you can't attack him he play's the victem and protaginist at the same time.
A true anti-social

I'm wondering....
Is this the Don Juan blog???

I may be late to the party ...
but I wanted to point out a glaring contradiction in one of Lover Boy's posts.

On October 9th at 7:31pm in DJ's post on "Originalism 101", Mr. Juan actually uses the same argument as supportive of his positon and against his position.

He said that "Dred Scott is the textbook case of a legally correct but morally indefensible result." His implication here was that the Dred Scott case was decided wrong because of its immoral position. But he goes on to say about aborition, "Whether that is the "right" moral decision is a matter for debate, but the law cares little for what is moral."

So DJ, which is it? Is that you only support the SCOTUS making moral but illegal judgements when they mirror your morals? Or is that you prefer immoral judgements like Roe regardless of their legality?

Your post is a perfect example of the moral (or rather immoral) relativism of the left. I pity the ones who love you.

Tod Kozeluh
Lexington, KY

More contradictions from Lover Boy
In his October 10th post at 10:20am he states:
"It is a matter of what we find more offensive; for me, the thought of telling others what to do when I don't have to deal with the consequences of the decision is unpalatable."

He is apparently blind to the fact that his desire to control my medical choices is a consequence he doesn't have to deal with. But then, I'm sure he knows better how to live my than I do.

Tod Kozeluh
Lexington, KY
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