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Wednesday, June 24, 2009
Lee  Culpepper :: Townhall.com Columnist
Yes Sir, Senator Boxer
by Lee Culpepper
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When the repugnant and self-absorbed politician Senator Barbara Boxer (D-California) belittled an Army general for respectfully addressing her as Ma’am instead of Senator, I know I was not the only person who wished the General would have responded with a stingingly clever quip. To his credit, Brigadier General Michael Walsh maintained his bearing and tact -- testaments of his self-discipline and leadership, but traits unfamiliar to most politicians.

In case you have not heard about this incident, the general was providing testimony at a hearing on the Louisiana Coastal Protection and Restoration process. Boxer scornfully interrupted Walsh after he referred to her as Ma’am.

Boxer snapped, "Y'know, Do me a favor. Could you say Senator instead of Ma'am? It's just a thing, I worked so hard to get that title, so I'd appreciate it, yes, thank you."

“Yes, Senator,” Walsh calmly answered.

I could not help imagining how my father might have responded. He was a colorful Marine fighter pilot, amazingly similar to the famous "Great Santini” with the demeanor of the salty Colonel Jessep (Jack Nicholson’s character in the film “A Few Good Men”). I enjoyed musing over their possible responses to Senator Boxer. Doing so helped momentarily relieve the nausea I got thinking of this scenario.

My dad might have fired back, “No problem, Senator, and I’ll be happy to pee on your leg, too.” I can hear Nicholson’s character, saying, “Take caution in your tone, [Senator], I’m a fair guy, but this [expletive deleted] heat is making me absolutely crazy.”

Of course, these answers would have also likely gotten the good general charged with contempt of Congress and discharged from the Army. Nevertheless, I imagine most Americans would have cheered the general for firing back with one of the following zingers:

“Yes, Sir, Senator, I’ll try to remember that in the future.”

“I’ll be glad to Ma’am, if you will you explain how calling you Senator will help prevent New Orleans from flooding in the future.”

“Senator, do you need a hug?”

“Your state is about to go bankrupt! Could you explain exactly what you mean by having worked hard for that title?

“Ma’am, have you ever served in a fighter squadron? Ever been engaged by a Surface to Air Missile? No? Then I don’t care about your title or what you would appreciate.”

Today, only 24% of the entire Congress has ever served in the military. The selfless veterans of World War II and Korea have been replaced by men and women who grew up during Vietnam or following the end of the draft in 1973. Is there any wonder why such a waft of resentment for the military now permeates Congress? While military service does not necessarily guarantee that an individual will grasp leadership traits, I question whether politicians like Senator Boxer and her peers can accurately define words like judgment, justice, discipline, integrity, tact, bearing, unselfishness, courage, or loyalty. True leaders put what is best for those for whom they are responsible first. Boxer and her cronies obviously put themselves and re-election as their number one priority.

Furthermore, many of the veterans we have serving in Congress are unfortunately like Senator John Kerry and Congressman John Murtha, both of whom reek of anti-Americanism. What’s more disheartening is that we end up with presidential candidates like the current “Commander in Chief.” His socialist ideology and contemptuous attitude towards America only fuel speculation on the extreme Right that he may be some type of Islamic or communist mole.

Back to Senator Boxer: have you thought about what you would be called then, Ma’am?

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Lee Culpepper is a former Marine and high school English teacher. He is currently working to complete his first book, Alone and Unafraid: One Marine’s Counterattack Inside the Walls of Public Education. Visit Lee’s website at www.leeculpepper.com.

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typical obnoxious jew
if she had said that to me, i would have said "yes senator JAP"

Boxer
At least she can become EX Senator, while the General will always be honored as our General.

address her as "IDIOT Boxer !! "
One of the most RADICAL, LIBERAL, CLASSLESS, & CLUELESS representatives who HAS destroyed California & is working feverishly to destroy our beloved country !!! She is one who negates the military as mere "service people" of whom her highness holds NO REGARD or RESPECT for. She is the POSTER CHILD of what is wrong with our country and needs the "title" of Senator stripped if only for her utter stupidity!! She reminds many when they "flush" their toilets with solid waste what her agenda is. The people of California hopefully have gotten their "wake up" call and will strip her "title" that she "worked so hard for" ...yeah right...look at your state Ms. BOXER ...something to be proud of isn't it !!!!!
The military, even in a new recruit in their 1st day of service has more class that she could EVER have in her lifetime!! Hey Barbie..."WE THE PEOPLE" love our military ...GET IT HONEY !!!!

Ms. Boxer, Narcissist
After hearing this stunning example of arrogance, I contacted Ms. Boxer's office and reminded her that Brigadier Gen. Michael Walsh was way above her in training, rank, and stature, and would she please do the right thing and publically apologize to him.

Surprisingly I received a reply which said in part, "Shortly after the hearing, I called General Walsh, and we had a friendly and productive conversation. We expressed our respect for one another and our determination to work together to protect our nation and communities from natural disasters."

She obviously has been getting a lot of flack from the citizens.
One can only hope that this episode will have a positive influence on her behavior in the future, perhaps help her to develop some class, but I'm not hopeful.

senator Boxer
Arrogance, over-self esteem, hypocrisy,lack of understanding for opposing viewpoints, unwillingness to accept, as a possibility, that an opposing viewpoint may have merit, too many faults to list. These all seem to apply to our elected officials, party not withstanding. The general showed true manliness and restraint. This is something almost NEVER found in a Democrat or, for that matter, a Republican. Something about the political waters infects nearly every politician.

Colonel Jessup Might Have Said...
..."SENATOR, we live in a world that has walls and those walls need to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, SENATOR Boxer? I have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom.

My existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don't want to admit that because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use then as the backbone of a life trying to defend something. You use them as a punchline.

I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a SENATOR who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I address her. I would rather you just said "thank you, General" and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest that you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to or what you've "worked hard for."

Lee, thank you for your service!
I like your style!

Correction: Madam Simpleton...
"She even wore a head scarf when she visited Syria, apparently to show solidarity with a culture that treats women as second class citizens."

My bad, that was actually Pelosi not Boxer.

Bronco3006
Thanks a lot!

I just shot Mountain Dew out of my nose!

Bye Bye Barbie
494 days, 10 hrs, 12 min
'Till Boxer's Gone

Assemblyman Chuck DeVore currently represents the 70th District of the State of California with over 500,000 constituents.

Chuck DeVore is a common sense conservative candidate for United States Senate in 2010 against Barbara Boxer.

http://www.chuckdevore.com/news.asp

"Right" is relative
Here's a highway safety jingle I saw somewhere back around 1954:

Here lies the body of John McKay
Who died defending his right of way.
He was right, dead right, as he sped along,
But he's just as dead as if he'd been wrong.

Senator Boxer isn't "dead" politically--yet.

Madam Simpleton...
It's interesting that Simpleton Boxer apparently shows great respect for people who do not respect her. She even wore a head scarf when she visited Syria, apparently to show solidarity with a culture that treats women as second class citizens.

But when it comes to someone who happened to call her with a title customarily meant for respect, apparently she thinks that arrogance is the appropriate response.

The General should have said: Yes Senator. What a coincidence, my dog is also called Senator, you two should get together some time!

It is not about "Sen." Boxer
It is about the Katrina victims that the General was trying to testify about

and it is about showing respect for our military.

The Commander in Chief remains mute.

It doesn't matter if she was "right."
It was her condescending tone of voice and the femi-nazi chip on her shoulder. It's about class, and she has NONE.

Being "right" (and I don't think she was) is no excuse for being rude.

It doesn't matter if she was right
It was her condescending tone of voice. It's about class, and she has none.

Boxer again
As a conservative and no friend of Barbara Boxer, I have to say that on this issue you guys are wrong. Here's why:
--Boxer has, just as do we all, every right to determine how she wishes to be addressed and to make those wishes known. If I prefer to be called "Joe" for example, instead of "Don", that is my right and I also have the obligation to so inform all those with whom I have contact. It is illustrative that she earlier had directed the NY Times to refer to her as "Mrs" and not their usual "Ms". Again, her perfect right, and would you be all over her if she had instead asked him to call her "Barbara"? I think not.
--The allegation that because the General is a military man he is "trained" to only use "sir and ma'am", is simply erroneous. I was an Army officer for 24 years and constantly addressed my superiors by their rank and name: "Colonel Jones", General Smith" etc. and always addressed my subordinates by their ranks, ie. "Sergeant White", Private Smedlap" etc. Of course "sir" was more frequently used, but use of rank and titles is not at all alien to the military and it is not a violation of military protocol for any officer to address another, especially a superior, by his rank and last name.
Much as I hate to say it, Boxer is right on this one, and we have bigger targets to focus on than this.

Joke for you
Hey what do you call an idiot in Plano?

A Plano idiot!


cute fun made of Boxer the biitch
I was not a supporter of Amnesty John McCain, but he deserves kudos for mocking the arrogant/supercilious dwarf biitch Barbara Boxer.

A reporter addressed him as Senator McCain, and he quipped back with a smirk-- "Thank you for not addressing me as Sir!" ;>)

By all means call her Senator
The term ma'am or sir in the military is one of respect given to a superior officer and they in fact do earn that title. Judging from the polls concerning what the american people think of the US congress which recieves a 20-30% approval rating as opposed to the ratings given the US military which are generaly in the upper 90% range by all means call that vacuous, arrogant and pompous windbag "Senator". She's earn that title plus her sorry approval rating. She sure doesn't deserve the honor of being addressed as ma'am as a military officer does.

Mike M
USN ret

The best response I've heard was
Oh, I'm sorry. I was under the impression that you were a Woman.

Someone else suggested it.

Xerxes, What's wrong with not taking offense when none was intended. It is a great display of the contrast in the maturity level of the two individuals involved. She gets bent out of shape when he uses Ma'am (a term of respect), and he remains calm and unruffled by her obvious ommision of any respectful terms used when addressing him. Did she say, "Sir, could you please refer to me as Senator" or "General, I don't like to be called Ma'am, could you call me Senator?"
No she did not. It's "Y'know, Do me a favor. Could you say Senator instead of Ma'am? It's just a thing, I worked so hard to get that title, so I'd appreciate it, yes, thank you."

Obviously it's important for Barb to feel respected, but she obviously has no clue how respect is really earned. It has nothing to do with winning an election.

Something that reveals character
is never trivial, whether in fiction or in real life.

Boxer revealed her character in her request as much as Shakespeare's Julius Caesar revealed his in his famous lines, "Cowards die many times before their deaths;/The valiant never taste of death but once." Of course, Caesar went on to die shortly afterward, and Senator Boxer went on to do her usual thing.

Both our speech and our deeds show who we are, and voters--at least the conscious ones--observe both.

The most seemingly trivial comment may reveal much.

I wish the general had
pointed to his ribbons and said " these are earned madam, BSing enough people to vote for you doesn't equate".

And then walked out.

The arrogance of these people is astounding, they have the world's best gravy train and think they are little tin gods. They need to be reminded that they work for US.

They do nothing to earn their money except spend ours and then pat themselves on the back with statements like "my distinguished colleague", talk about blowing smoke up each others behinds.

The entire congress, with very few exceptions, is beneath contempt and boxer leads the list with that comment.

Xerxes...
Nobody would dare call the President "President," you moron. The proper address is "Mr. President." The general could have called Boxer "Madam Senator," I suppose, but the point is, she was belittling him and trying to elevate herself. She succeeded in doing the opposite.

Dismissed
Senator Boxer's rejection of "Ma'am" sounded to me like an echo of Hilary Clinton's assertion that she didn't "stay home and bake cookies"; in other words, an insult to every woman in the country who works as a wife and a mother.

Ma'am, after all, is a form of Madam or Madame, the term for a married woman.

Cheryl



Yes Sir, Senator Boxer
"I don't mind calling you Senator, it's what I named my dog."

Dave - Career ending ? ? ?

"...any kind of smartassed remark would not only be career ending, but couterproductive."

One can only hope this will end "Sen" Boxer's career. Her smartassed remark WAS counter productive and not only to the Katrina Victims that the Gen. was trying testify to help but she also showed disrespect for our military.

Where is the Commander in Chief on this one ?


Everyone who testifies...
...in front of Boxer should call her "ma'am" from now until she is out of office (hopefully, soon). Then, she will have to go on record to "correct" each and everyone of them. And then, everyone (who is not military) can say what they need to say to her about her needing to be called "senator". It will be her Congressional legacy.

Boxer doesn't want to be referred to as
a woman. One wonders why, but in the twisted logic of the left to refer to a woman as a woman demeans the woman. If it was me I would have used the entire title thereafter and referred to her as: Honorable Senator Boxer.

Boxer apparently thinks of her (sorry, I mean it's) position as a well deserved position of power rather than a privilege granted her by the USA and the people of Louisiana. Such is the heady self important atmosphere of Washington DC.

Yeah, well...
as a retired Army First Sergeant, I had to deal with clowns like her for three decades. The poster is correct: any kind of smartassed remark would not only be career ending, but couterproductive. He should have addressed her as 'senator' throughout, then addressed each one on the panel the same way - in an exaggeratedly polite way. One of the the men would have eventually told him it was okay to address them as 'sir.' At that point I would have said something like " I need some guidance here, senator: is that because you understand military courtesy, or because you didn't earn your title?" That would have set the cat among the canaries~ it is ALWAYS within bounds in the military to seek information and guidance.

"Sen." Boxer disses Katrina Victims
Brig. Gen. Michael Walsh, with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, was testifying on the Louisiana coastal restoration process in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. He began to answer one of Boxer's questions with "ma'am" when Boxer immediately cut him off.

"You know, do me a favor," an irritated Boxer said. "Could say 'senator' instead of 'ma'am?'"
________________
AND SHE also KNOWS:
military protocol advises that officers may use "sir" or "ma'am" when addressing anybody higher than them on the chain of command.
__________________
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/18/sen-boxer-chides -brigadier-general-calling-maam/

"Yes, ma'am," Walsh interjected.

"It's just a thing, I worked so hard to get that title, so I'd appreciate it, yes, thank you," she said.

Boxer Rebellion
Many Californians, like myself, are embarrased by Senator Boxer's actions and comments throughout the years. But the liberals will keep sending her back to DC. My response would have been:

"Fine maam , but please don't address me as 'y'know'. My proper title is General, and I have certainly earned that."

Better left unsaid, I guess
I probably would have said: "Ma'am, I respect you more as a woman than as a Senator."


Colonel Jessup
I wonder if the Senator from California has any appreciation at all how hard the good general worked to attain his rank? Was it at least as hard as she "worked" to become a Senator?

Lee is right - the general should have channeled Nathan Jessup when he replied...while it may have indeed cost him his career, at the end of the day it would have been hilarious to see Boxer's reaction to a real man's answer.

ORIGINAL CACTUSHEAD

"xerxes reading your post I gather your are frequently addressed as moron or it is it limp wristed faggot"

No, like his namesake, he's usually called "Loser."

The Boxer wench
Being a retired Marine Gunnery Sgt, I cringed when I heard that political hack speak to the General like she was a first grade teacher teaching manners to one of her student. Why, oh why didn't the General reply, "You bet Senator, Ma'am." But that's probably why I didn't get to wear stars on my shoulders, d'ya think?

They just don't get it.
She may very well have "worked hard" to become a senator, but i'll dam well bet ya, not nearly as hard as he did to become a Brigadiere General! His composure is a testament to a soldier trained well, and a class act that carries himself with character, and dignity!

p.s. Xerxes
Non of this applies to NCOs of different pay grades.

Xerxes
In the military you call superiors "sir" or "ma'am". You only refer to subordinates by their title. Your comments are about as dumb as a bag of hammers.

Boxer is an idiot.

Enough said.

Contempt of Congress??
Impossible, 99.99% of them are beneath contempt.

Thanks military vets, for the clarification..it's a wonder the General kept a straight face.
This woman is sooooo STOOOPID..I've said it before, dumber than a box of rocks and twice as stupid.
She got her comeuppance for her arrogance at her own insistance and doesn't have a clue...
Delicious.

I can think of several words

to address you by senator, but it is not polite to use such terms in mixed company.

What an ignorant cow
Too bad this embarrassing fool doesn't realize that in the military, you address superiors as Sir or Ma'am as a sign of respect, and you address inferior ranks by their titles. So if she insists on being called an inferior position, so be it. It's true anyway.

Ya'know;
I'd like that very much Senator. It would releave me of having to call you Ma'am.

Boxer's a feminist
of a peculiar type. When you run into one you have to realize that if you are a male, you are worth about as much as a bit of unidentifiable roadkill.

My take on her is that she rejects everything about patriarchal society, including the entire male sex. Whether you're a general, a fry cook, or a bum, you are not fit to be in the same room with her.

Mary Daly was a professor at Notre Dame who wrote a number of large books proclaiming that men were not only unnecessary but an absolute hindrance to the development of a just society. If I remember rightly, she advocated research on parthenogenesis and thus the elimination of all the ugly men (that is, all men).

She was fired by that rather conservative school some time after (perhaps because of) her requirement that men not be permitted to enroll in her classes.

I confess that, as a male, I found her books unpleasant, though I requested that the library at my college purchase them in the interest of ideological diversity.

Had she learned of my intervention on her behalf, I suppose she would have written to my department chair and demanded that I be fired for snooping into her business.

The retired Chief Master Sergeant says:
Whenever a military member calls someone by their rank or position title instead of saying "sir" or "ma'am," they are in fact showing disregard for that person.

It is not uncommon to refer to a lieutenant as "lieutenant" instead of "sir" as a way of expressing insolence.

So, go ahead general, call her "senator." Those of us in the know will understand.

Of course, I think she should go by the title C.U.N.T (as in Can't Understand Normal Thinking).

What a bitchhhh.

Calling you ma'am
Says the General...

Is because when a person like you disgusts me, revulsion has a tendency to do that, ma’am

Just imagine
if George Bush had said to ANYONE, "Y'know, Do me a favor. Could you say President instead of Sir? It's just a thing, I worked so hard to get that title, so I'd appreciate it, yes, thank you."

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General might have said
Senator is a name of respect?

Not for a good while, ma'am, 99 of you gave the other one a bad name

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The General might have said
Call you Senator?

What do you take me for? An idiot!

Call you Senator?
I had rather call her an ambulance myself.

The General might have said:

Yes Mrs Senator

senator boxer
I thought the stories around dc was that most males you encounter don't know you well enough to ask your name after they have paid for sexual favors

Yes, Ma'am Boxer

When you prevent hurricanes from flooding my city, you will deserve more respect than a person who has put his life on the line for this country. Until then, you are a Ma'am and I am a Ms.

General's Response
Perhaps the general should have replied, "Certainly, honey, just as soon as you call me 'general'." Barbara Boxer - pitiful excuse for a senator.

ARROGANCE LIBERAL DISRESPECT
WHY WOULD A LIBERAL BEING DISRESPECTFUL TO A MILITARY OFFICER EVN A GENERAL SHOCK ANYONE? WHY WOULD THE SPIN JOB THAT FOLLOWED ALSO SHOCK ANYONE? THERE UNLIMITED RESOURCES OF TESTIMONY BEFORE THE SENATE INVOLVING SENATOR BOXER SHE HAVE NEVER COMPLAINED BEFORE AND SHE IS NOT NEW ON THE JOB. SHE ONCE TOLD A WOMAN WHOM LATER BECAME SUPREM COURT JUSTICE THAT ITWAS FINE TO CALL HER MAM JUST AS SHE HAD REFERRED TO ALL MALES AS SIR.

Lee, your ugly bitterness is showing
What's the matter with calling a Senator, "Senator?" Or calling the president "President?"

How about we just call Lee "Mr. Sour Grapes, Sir."

Look in the mirror and say five times: We lost. We will get over it.
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