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Wednesday, March 04, 2009
Laura Hollis :: Townhall.com Columnist
Let the "moderate" Obama voters' beware
by Laura Hollis
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This is priceless. David Brooks is having a bit of "buyer's remorse" over Barack Obama? In Tuesday’s New York Times editorial, Brooks laments that moderates thought Obama was a centrist, but now they see - *gasp!* - he's an ultra-Left ideologue who is going to spend the country into oblivion in order to try to achieve his Marxist coup d'etat. This, Brooks protests, isn't what they (the self-described moderates) expected.

If that's true (and it clearly is true), then it's only because they weren't listening. Or, more accurately, they were listening to each other, but they weren't listening to those of us who had already called Obama out on his political proclivities.

And they certainly weren't listening to Obama.

Barack Obama signaled loud and clear who he is, what he believes, and what he would do -- as a "commie organizer," as a state senator, as a U.S. Senator, as an author, and as a Presidential candidate. He supports abortion-on-demand at all stages of pregnancy, black liberation theology, an activist judiciary that will rewrite the Constitution to correct our Founding Fathers’ “blind spots,” confiscatory taxation and wealth redistribution, restrictions on gun ownership, limits to free speech, an emasculated military, and massive, massive transfers of power to an even greater leviathan of a federal government.

And that’s just content. More insidiously, Obama has also made clear how valuable his training in Saul Alinsky’s methods have been to his worldview about the process of obtaining political power. And Saul Alinsky’s philosophies can be traced back to much earlier communist and socialist radicals who were blunt about the fact that it is easiest to take over a “democratic” political system by use of the democratic franchise (voting), after which it becomes necessary to dismantle or otherwise encumber that system, to avoid being tossed out by the very same voters who had put you in power. These same writers also admit the necessity of lying, and of creating economic collapse, in order to ensure that “the people” will cry out for government intervention. (Don’t take my word for it, read Bruce Caldwell’s superlative edition of F.A. Hayek’s The Road to Serfdom. The parallels between 1940s England and the United States today are shocking and enlightening.)

Obama has already begun his left-wing lurch at a breakneck pace. You can expect the rest of his ultra-Left agenda to be implemented – or at least attempted – during his tenure in office. And you can expect any opposition to be vilified, mocked, ridiculed, humiliated, and – if at all possible – silenced. It has already started. This is no aberration; this is who Obama is.

"Centrists," "moderates" and "social justice Catholics" (among others) who believed otherwise did so because their entire justification for supporting Obama consisted of, "We know what he's saying, but we don't believe him." This is the political equivalent of sticking one's fingers in one's ears and yelling, "Nah nah nah nah nah nah - I can't hear you." How else to describe the deliberate obtuseness of authors and commentators who insisted before the election that Obama was "going to govern from the center," and the increasingly desperate and transparently specious assertions after the election that that's precisely what he was doing? Hell, they’d still be saying it, if it weren’t for the fact that the Dow takes a tumble every time he opens his mouth.

Well, I'll give Brooks credit for this much: at least he is willing to admit it now. Prominent Catholic and Pepperdine Law School dean Doug Kmiec is still running around proclaiming Obama to be the most pro-life president ever. This despite Obama's historic refusal to support the Born Alive Infant Protection Act, his promise to sign the Freedom of Choice Act, his repeal of the Mexico City Policy, his appointment of EMILY's List and NARAL operatives to important positions, and his nomination of pro-choice Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius for Secretary of Health and Human Services. (At this rate, Kmiec will soon have a pro-life website up and running in support of Kansas late-term abortionist Dr. George Tiller. I can see it now: www.catholicsfortillerthekiller.com. Perhaps Kmiec could argue that Tiller, too, actually serves the pro-life cause, because the procedures he employs are so horrific, even women who want an abortion are scared off.)

Even so, Brooks still doesn’t quite get it. Despite his growing recognition of who and what Obama really is (and his admirable willingness to acknowledge it), what does Brooks fear most? Republicans back in power. He says, “The only thing more scary [sic] than Obama’s experiment is the thought that it might fail and the political power will swing over to a Republican Party that is currently unfit to wield it.” If Brooks’ fear here is returning the reins of power to a bunch of witless RINOs whose idea of conservative leadership and fiscal responsibility is to spend as much as Obama but on different stuff, then I understand, even though I don’t agree with him. But I suspect Brooks is suggesting that, despite everything Obama intends to do, we have more to fear from a political party whose members want to protect the lives of unborn children and define gays’ permanent relationship commitments as ‘civil unions’ rather than ‘marriage.’ This is absurd.

Obama’s economic ideas will fail. They have failed everywhere they have been tried. The only questions are how quickly they will fail, and what the consequences will be thereafter. Sooner is better than later, if past is precedent. But the precedent isn’t encouraging in that respect. As the brilliant Hayek explained in 1944, the inherent flaws in collectivist economic theories have inevitably resulted in totalitarian political regimes. And Hayek had it easier than we do now; the socialist colleagues to whom he was writing considered themselves traditional “liberals” in the 18th century sense of believing in political liberty, and would have been horrified at the prospect of compromising those liberties, even in pursuit of a more equitable distribution of wealth. But so-called “progressives” in this country – and President Obama is at the front of this line - would freely toss away the protections provided in our Constitution, if it meant being able to grab some extra cash away from someone who has more.

This is a tried-and-true prescription for economic collapse, poverty, anarchy, chaos, political upheaval, and widespread violence. History has shown us this over and over again. Human beings either live in a system of free and voluntary exchange, or they live at the point of a gun. There is no “middle path,” desperate though some moderates might be to find one, and it is distressing that intelligent people like Brooks are falling for the same old con game.

There is an old common law concept called caveat emptor. It means, "let the buyer beware," and it was traditionally interpreted to mean that it is the buyer who has the duty to investigate what it is (s)he is purchasing; the seller would have no duty to disclose anything. If a buyer failed to use reasonable diligence, courts applying caveat emptor would typically give the afflicted buyer no relief.

In this case, the disgruntled moderate voters who supported Barack Obama cannot claim they didn't know. He - and we - made everything perfectly clear.

And there is no relief in sight.

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Laura Hirschfeld Hollis is a Clinical Professor of Business Administration at the University of Illinois.

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Pat from TX, very good point
Some genius on one of these other threads made some inane crack about 20-somethings (and possibly 30-somethings) being the "thinking folk" whose time has come to "run things for a while."

Ha!

These young'uns' having helped push That One over the top and into the White House shows only that "thinking" ain't their strong suit.

As you say, they will certainly pay a bitter and terrible price for their rank foolishness. It's too bad it will take them so very long to even BEGIN to see that.

And of course, it will be too late by then to do anything about it.

What saddens me most is the tremendous damage all of this is doing to this greatest country in human history.

But we've already been through many terrible things before, and by the mercy and power of the Almighty, we came through. Perhaps we will again.


Delicious Irony
There is a certain delicious irony in the fact that the votes of the under 30 crowd went decisively for BO. They are the ones who will be most affected by the incredible debt currently being piled up and the inevitable inflation that will follow.

I have only one thing to say to them: Suckers.

Liberal morons!
53% of Americans are idiots, and we 47% who are sensible and intelligent are suffering the consequences. What really engorges my pointer is that not only did the simpering popinjays elect the self annointed massiah to the highest office, but they elected a super majority of his appostles to congress. So now we have a government with No checks and balances in the hands of a demagogue. Look what you've done you liberal morons.

Killer
You and your pal, the beast, have no credibility already. It was your pal, the beast who first brought up the issue of looks. What kind of response has anything to do with credibility when Marxist socialist fools like you call people names when you can't produce facts to support your own liberal rot?

You and your pal, the beast, are trolls who use your name calling to redirect the focus of conversation to your own disease.

Go back to sleep, pal.

What to Do?
I see the election of this charlatan Obama as a result of our egregious public education. Pains me, because I come from a long line of educators. Public education is destroying our nation. I quit my job as a public school teacher,then tutored to earn the money for private school tuition. The largest demographic group of parents using private education is public school teachers. Wake up, people! You know the NEA is a corrupt union,not a professional organization. When I was an English teacher the National Council of English Teachers told us, "It doesn't matter WHAT you read, only THAT you read." HS graduates, and even college graduates know little about our heritage, history, or governmental structure. But enthusiastic parents just keep voting for those bond issues and kissing up to the teachers, hoping that little Megan will get her "A." Then they give her a nice SUV to drive off to college and some cute Victoria's Secret thong underwear, hoping she will make more "A's" while doing her fun kegstands at the frat parties. I'm as disgusted with parents as I am with educators. Our country needs an educated electorate. We need to insist that we educate to our national purpose.

Mrs. Hollis
I read your response and I am gravely concerned. You speak of vacuity and yet rather than put forth argument, which rescues your credibility. You decided to address your looks. Ideas are important in a democratic society. Looks on the other hand are important only in Beauty Contest. This is probably a unrealized fantasy,every girl has it. But,think of your position and what it requires. It would appear that your editor has not a Beauty Queen or Journalist. SORRY!!

Nothing more duplicitous than.........
"mainstream" LGBT columinists from all across the political spectrum saying they were not aware. This was the goal of the LGBT media since the culmination of the presidential primaries over two years ago. Rule #1: Nothing that comes from the mouth of an LGBT individual, who at the minimum show co-morbidity to histrionic and passive-aggressive personality disorder, can be considered factual. We're still waiting for NPR to address itself as the LGBT Federal Network. Brooks is nothing but a lying a** f*gg*t.

I'm not Zonker
speed39 wrote:
"Are you my old friend Zonker from Great Neck?"

No, sir, I am not.

Sorry.

But old Zonker must be a great guy.


Hollis rules!
It will be interesting to see if any high profile public moderates have the stones to fully reject Obama now as opposed to later.

Hollis is right. Most are walking around with their earplugs in yelling La La in hopes of drowning out Obama's further moves to "fix" our nation through socialism.

Towhnall does this too by publishing Medved, Kathleen Parker and other (list too long) RINO middle roaders who really are looking for that silver lining to magically appear.

Sibelius turnover.
Like her mentor, Nancy Peolosi, Sibelius couldn't resist the spot light of political notoriety. She snatched at Obama's shiny carrot (a cabinet post) and dropped her objections to any woman's right to abort. Again the Obama crowd has shown the power they wield over an individual's moral decisions, and how easy it is to convert her/him to their way of thinking. Mind control comes easy to the most powerful man in charge. We are losing our souls.

David S.
Are you my old friend Zonker from Great Neck?

TO: ALL

You're wasting your time with beastie boy. He's a troll. Truth doesn't matter to him. That is precisely why he does what all liberals with their liberal rot do: If you can't present facts, reduce the conversation to name calling-kind of like Cavell who goes off into fairy tale rhapsodies.

If there is any doubt that liberal rot are excretions from mental disease, read the name calling and the fantasies.

Cavell
I already know you "are not aware..." That fact alone added with #3 could very easily place you in catagory #1 or 2.

Bye, bye, now.

Why can't he just eat his waffle?
Ruth wrote:
"I listened to every word Obama has said and I know in my heart he is the prophesied Antichrist. He said in 2007 he will crush those who oppose him."

-- Listen, that ectomorphic twerp isn't going to "crush" anybody. He'd do well to avoid breezy places.

You wrote:
"Is anyone listening yet??? What will it take???? Fools not only do not listen to God's warnings they also do not listen to the enemy's words..."

--Yes, I am listening.

And although I'm not sure I'd agree that That One is definitely the 666 guy, I certainly say you've got his number with everything else you've said.


Teleprompter Man
Just how much of a crutch the teleprompter has become for Obama was on sharp display during his latest commerce secretary announcement. The president spoke from a teleprompter in the ornate Indian Treaty Room for a few minutes. Then Gov. Gary Locke stepped to the podium and pulled out a piece of paper for reference.

The president’s teleprompter also elicited some uncomfortable laughter after he announced Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius as his choice for Health and Human Services secretary. “Kathy,” Obama said, turning the podium over to Sebelius, who waited at the microphone for an awkward few seconds while the teleprompters were lowered to the floor and the television cameras rolled.

Time to wake up
Demoncrats have a gang mentality...They cease to think for themselves when it comes to party....Obama putting both hands into their wallets may be a sure fire wake up...too late
Obama stealing all the money is only the beginning of the problems America will face from this man...
Soon he will force Islam on the Americans as has been done all over the world...
Obama had an interview with a Christians editor a few years ago..When asked if he was a Christian he went into a 15 minute explanation of the Islamic influences in his life in Indonesia, Hawaii and family..He told the interviewer that he was a muslim in heart and she didn't hear it... He even repeated it near the end of the interview...He also said all ways lead to God (not Jesus only)and that he mistrusted those who taught Jesus is the only way...This is the complete antithesis of Christianity...
I listened to every word Obama has said and I know in my heart he is the prophesied Antichrist..He said in 2007 he will crush those who oppose him..He told the truth....Is anyone listening yet??? What will it take???? Fools not only do not listen to God's warnings they also do not listen to the enemy's words...

Ms. Laura61:
About those two scholars on this thread who criticized your looks:

They are limp-wrists. Pantywaists. Funny boys.

I say you are a hottie.

Truly.

Allen from MT
I do read my comments. Disagreement is welcome, always! Thank you for being so courteous about it. :)

A 'moderate' my ankle
What's a "moderate"?

That's pretentious.

I think "milquetoast" is so much more accurate, don't you?

Truth, at last!
Heretofore, I have heard no one in the media--save for Alan Keyes--refer to Obama as the Marxist he is. Thank God for Ms. Hollis and her willingness to call a communist a communist. I certainly hope others in the media will stop dancing around the fact and follow her and Mr. Keyes's lead.

I disagree with Ms. Hollis.
But I certainly appreciate that she is reading her comments.

Thank you!

God Love You Laura Hollis
for speaking the truth.

Thank you.

M
I am so glad you brought this subject up. Everyone seems to ignore what is waiting in the wings. This plan to take our young people for three months to indoctrinate them is probably the most dangerous of all the things he has planned. We stand to lose a whole generation to socialism. Believe me just because we have not heard much about this lately you can be sure that he and Emanual fully intend to make this happen. I am terrified by this thought.

Kermudjin
You are so right. The MSM did everything they could not to report or investigate the true Obama. Brooks has done us a great disservice by failing to give us the information that was needed to evaluate this man before he was elected to lead our country. It is a little too late now for him to decide perhaps he should have done a better job. The MSM fawned over Obama and did everything to get him elected. I hope they have learned something but I doubt it.

India's lost half century (3)
(I don't understand why the third part never posted; but here it is)

During that period India was led (governed) by Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru. He was a great orator and more absorbed with himself than any one I can remember. He istituted the socialist/marxist plans for India that were a succession of failures. Economic achievement was more inflationary than fundamental. Nehru and his stooges of corrupt socialists were like termites eating away at the economic structure of the country. Nehru was also much more focused on what the rest of the world thought of India rather than working on the fundamentals to improve the Indian economy.

The Socialist state frustrated a lot of the educated citizens to a point that over 10 million people left India for greener pastures in Europe and USA. The common complaint heard then was that this a great Brain Drain on the country.

I am not sure if these were economically savy people; because it is these same people or their next descendants, who have repeatedly voted for socialist philosophy in Europe and USA. The Indian-Americans have been a relatively large bloc in voting for the Democratic Party and recently Obama.

Brooks and the MSM
The problem is not that the mainstream media didn't listen to Obama. They actually did listen - to his rhetoric, grandiose speeches, excuses, lies, and obvious spinning of issues. This was, of course, when they were actually granted access to him. What the MSM didn't do was investigate Obama - look at his voting record, notice the kinds of people he associated with, and examine the inconsistencies between his words and deeds. Brooks' expression of surprise may be commendable, but it would be even more admirable if he and his ilk apologized for not doing their jobs during the campaign.

But He's cool
What does all this matter, Obama is cool. Who cares about his past voting record or associates. Who cares about his socialist slip of the tongues like "spread the wealth around'. Who cares that he has no accomplishments. He carries a Blackberry, he listens to hip hop, he text messages, and I bet he even Facebooks. That is why we voted for him.
I have said it before and I will say it again, the youth who voted for him are the ones who will be screwed the most by him, and all this spending and government growth.

Reply #55
The Civilian Security Force is the Grass Roots Organization that BHO refers to in order to stifle opposition.

The MSM has not not mentioned this or will not since they are part of the conspiracy

Thanks. Laura!!
We hear you loud and clear.


Obama is a self-fulfilling Marxist prophet of gloom and doom. He is the bad actor in every cautionary tale, the spoon in the garbage disposal and the deadly salmonella that for some, can't be detected until it's too late. He is the foreign pest who comes to decimate. He is the invading japanese beetle, the infesting zebra mussel and the debilitating giardia in the well water. He proliferates sickness and destroys from within. He is the flesh-eating bacteria that at the very least, can destroy healthy tissue, be excruciatingly painful and if not caught in time, takes away life. But above all these things, he is the will to power seen In Hitler and all forces of evil.

That about sums up how I feel about Obama ! Any questions?

Pistol, I don't think our elections are
all that honest, unfortunately. Between the farce in MN, the previous theft in Washington State and ACORN, the phrase from Stalin rings all too true, "It doesn't matter who the people vote for, all that matters is who counts the votes."

What part don't you understand??
homas J Gassett
Location: WA
Reply # 3
Date: Mar 5, 2009 - 11:47 AM EST RR elected BO
David Brooks, Chris Buckley, George Will, Bill Krystal and the other "moderate" republicans (read RINOs) have exactly what they wanted. >>>

Read MORON. The RR elected BO. First they divided the party into Rinos, McCainiacs ect, then they took their ball and went home like petulant children. Until we flush the RR the republican party is dead, and socialism is alive and well
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That is EXACTLY CORRECT. It is what I told you yesterday. What part of it that you don't understand MORON?

The RINOs can not win without us and we ARE NOT going to go along with them any more. We sucked it up with the Bush bunch, but we are NOT going to do it any more.

You can have socialism or conservatism, but you can NOT have another watered down "compasionate conservative" liar like either of the two Bush boys. Learn to live with it because THAT is the way it is going to be.

The old trick of putting up people like Bush and McLame and then saying, well you have to vote for the devil or the deep blue sea is over. And when you say if we don't vote for the deep blue sea, you are going to get the devil, you are going to get the devil. Conservatives look at those choices and go to the deep blue sea and go fishing.

You RINOs can do whatever you want, but you'd better become accustomed to dealing with the devil because it's the only option you have left. We are not playing your game any more. You can call us names, (you did anyway) but you are going to LOSE when you do. Suck it up and live with it. You don't have any other choice MORON.

DROP THE REPUBLICRAT LABELS
Until we drop the Republican-Democrat labels and rename the parties to Conservative and Liberal (Socialist), we are going to keep getting this confusion among voters about who to vote for. Unfortunately, the sheeple in this country don't really investigate the issues and in many cases, they blindly identify themselves with the "party for the middle class" or "the party their daddy voted for" or whatever else ignorant criteria they base it on. Get rid of the rino's and make the posers run as liberals and conservative democrats (if they exist anymore), run as conservatives. Enough already, this isn't about repubics and demoncrats anymore, it's about world view; conservative (Reagan conservatives) or liberal (socialists, marxists, communists).

Hi, Killer and Beastie
That's a really recent pic - one of my better ones, I will admit. My hair's a bit longer, though. See:
http://www.news-gazette.com/news/business/2009/02/25/ui_pro fessors__area_businesspeople

And for the record, I haven't gone through menopause yet. As for a facelift .... hmmm. Tempting! But I think I'll wait a bit longer.

Your digs at people's looks reveal so much about the vacuity of your position. Have I ever criticized Obama's looks? Of course not. He is a very handsome man. What does that have to do with anything?

Pathetic.

For Stilla and her readers:
Two excellent sources, the first an online book:

http://johntaylorgatto.com/chapters/index.htm

the second a brief synopsis:

http://www.thememoryhole.org/edu/school-mission.htm

RR elected BO
David Brooks, Chris Buckley, George Will, Bill Krystal and the other "moderate" republicans (read RINOs) have exactly what they wanted. >>>

Read MORON. The RR elected BO. First they divided the party into Rinos, McCainiacs ect, then they took their ball and went home like petulant children. Until we flush the RR the republican party is dead, and socialism is alive and well.

Stilla
You have my "Vote"! Of all the "Stupidity" on TH,it is indeed a pleasure to see your post. I attended a school board meeting, when I first arrived here in Georgia. I ask the board to allow me to review their textbooks for errors. I started receiving phone calls from everywhere. They wanted me to serve on their review panel. Why would I do that? If parents of all "Ilks" started asking question about curriculum and subject matter,things would be different. Most Americans are "Childlike",in that they complain but don't pursue the process. You made my day STILLA...

Doubters
If you doubt that there is a Marxist agenda in the public schools, consider that the progressive John Dewey, Father of American Education, was a socialist. All the current education reformers are Marxists. "Nothing will be taught which is not essential to the most basic of occupations." Mortimer Adler. "Less is more. The student as worker..." Ted Sizer Create an educated elite, have the others out of school half the day laboring for the state. Make volunteerism mandatory. Call it service education. Anyone who sends his children to public schools is either a liberal or a fool in denial. BTW, some teachers sabotage the socialist agenda when they close the door. That's what I did, but I had a lonely existence in the faculty room.

Brooks is a RINO


David Brooks, Chris Buckley, George Will, Bill Krystal and the other "moderate" republicans (read RINOs) have exactly what they wanted. They can't say as they attempt to do now, that they didn't know who or what Oboma was, or what he is going to do. Obama TOLD THEM right up front what he was going to do. His past associations TOLD THEM what he had already done.

None of those RINOs now have any crediblity with conservatives or true republicans and I don't want to hear what they think. Remorse? Let them tell somebody who cares. Back when they could have influenced opinion against what is happening now, they were willing to give Obama a chance and they were in the tank for him. As far as I am concerned, they can stay there.

forgive the beasty
After all he lives in Ak.and they have the worst school system in the country.Thanks to Bill ans hilary

Red Diaper Baby
There was a great column in the American Thinker Oct 30 with the theme that Obama was immersed in Marxist theory from birth, coining this interesting term for him.

But you can help remove him now, not next year after he wrecks the country. A lot of legal research has determined that he is NOT ELIGIBLE to be POTUS. It's not kook theory- go read the research for yourself and decide. One good summary is at http://paralegalnm.wordpress.com/2009/02/27/barack-hussein -obama-a-natural-born-subject-of-great-britain/

The Constitution (by definition of a "natural born citizen" requires that he be born of TWO citizen parents. His websites admit he was born of a British Kenyan citizen. He is spending a million dollars to prevent the release of his valid, long-form, "vault" birth certificate, college and passport records. WHY is he hiding these from you?
His lawyers told a court that release of these "would be damaging to him." ( see theobamafile.com) You bet they would!

Check out federalistblog.us for definition of "natural born citizen". Dr. Taitz, the lawyer who is handling some of the dozens of lawsuits requiring him to show proof he is eligible, posts at defendourfreedoms.us.

Congress and the Supreme Court must be forced to look at this issue and demand the release of his life documents.

Education
What's one easy way to fight back? As a former teacher who quit the "profession" in disgust, I recommend going into your local public high school--the one you pay for-- and asking at what level American History is taught, and then asking for the textbook to take home and review. They'll be furious. You'll be shocked. Marxist Howard Zinn is used in many schools. Others schools teach no history and offer sociology instead. Most educators, even English and science teachers, do not allow the textbook or the materials they furnish to go out of the classroom. They can't have their Marxist propaganda be exposed to parents. After you check out just one public school, save up for private school tuition for all children in your family. No money for public schools. Starve the beast.

Wall Street Candidate Sells Them Short
At the same time we are seeing the proof that Obama really is the radical that most conservatives thought he was all along we are also witnessing the complete naivete and ignorance of the Wall Street barons. They contributed millions to the Democrat Party and voted for Democrat candidates for years and the Democrat Party is selling them short.

Jim Cramer is a sterling example of these so-called brilliant Wall Street investors and leaders. He discovers he has been betrayed by the man and the Party he voted for.

Evidently they can choose stocks but they lose their shirts on the leaders they invest in. Of course, it is happening to millions of ordinary Americans, too.

You couldn't be more correct!
This is what comes of a fawning press and uninformed voters.

If BHO clearly said what he intended to do before the election (stated in his own liberal-speak), then it is also true that conservative voices laid it all out.

But the adoring MSM drowned out those voices.

The new theme song for America needs to be "We Won't Get Fooled Again!"

Dear TownHall...

Please place Ms. Hollis on the main list in place of the commie
kathleen creep parked.

You will gain thousands of followers and
k. parker will pass to a natural demise for her commie beliefs.

What do you say?



Ratas
Great post!!

The left are so out of it,they can't see we're drowning. The last thing we'll see before we are completely underwater will be the left gasping,"Obama,we love you! You are our savior"!.

Pathetic!

The worst yet to come?
Any so-called "catholic" who voted for Barry was self-deceiving. Kmiec, and others of that ilk are not Catholic, as has already been pointed out.
Barry the Marxist has started doing those things that he said he would do, but the self-deluded ignored, and we are suffering the consequences. But, and this is extremely important, the worst thing he wants to do is yet to come. Miss Hollis wrote,"Barack Obama signaled loud and clear who he is, what he believes, and what he would do -- as a "commie organizer," as a state senator, as a U.S. Senator, as an author, and as a Presidential candidate. He supports abortion-on-demand at all stages of pregnancy, black liberation theology, an activist judiciary that will rewrite the Constitution to correct our Founding Fathers’ “blind spots,” confiscatory taxation and wealth redistribution, restrictions on gun ownership, limits to free speech, an emasculated military, and massive, massive transfers of power to an even greater leviathan of a federal government." That list omits the "Civilian Security Force," funded and equipped on a par with, or better than our Millitary that he said he wants to create. Interpret that as our very own Gestapo! He hasn't said anything about that lately, but that does not mean he has changed his Marxist mind.

Form a Militia today.
LIFE AS WE KNEW IT ENDED 1/20/2009

Tis what I and others have said would happen, and is happening before your eyes.
This is not a TV series you are watching on Nazi Germany. Those who voted for Obama are now experiencing the effects of a Maxist, Anarchist,Islamofacist, Government.
We will be led to slaughter like the Jews were under Hitler; possibly this time by the Marxist, Socialists Jews ,Porky Schumer and Lautenberg as well as Pelosi and Reid in the 111th Congress.
Are we waiting for the Shovel ready Transportation Project to increase the number of Cattle Cars to haul us off to Concentration Camps?

How Catholics could vote for Obama believing that they could pray after the fact that Obama would change his stance on Abortion, knowing what it was as a Senator is ludicrous. It did not work with Catholics praying that Castro would be better than Battista.
How a Eucharistic Minister in my own Parish could write a local Newspaper stating that the Church could overlook Obama's stance on Abortion, and concentrate on his Policies of Food Stamps, Welfare, etc as being more for the common good.

Church Doctrine says do not worship false Gods or Messiah's,Black, White, Yellow, or Green like the all Democrats are now doing with Obama.

This article is right in that you will not get Obama out of office by voting him out. Mayor Bloomberg wants to change Term Limits, and Chavez of Venezuela was given a Life Term like another, Castro.

We are living the Tyranny in our own Government that our Fore fathers would not have permitted or tolerated.

Keep your eyes on Obama and not on the diversions the Marxist Democrats want you to watch like Limbaugh, the Economy, and other snow jobs.


Cramer's Lesson
Conservative THallers should read Jim Cramer's response to WH criticism, which is on the Drudge Report. Cramer has been an out-and-out liberal Democrat supporter for years and an Obama voter. Now he is beginning to see the error of his ways.

But he still hasn't learned how naive he was--and is!

Amazing!

There has never been
a more clear cut example of "enemies...domestic" than the current administration and Democrat leadership.

Beastie Boy
I'd like to see your workers revolution. What better way than that to clean our society of your parasitic ilk. Locked and loaded punk.

You know a leftist
has lost an argument when they resort to juvenile antics like criticizing one's appearance.

As for me, my hope is that the military will have spine enough to honor their oaths to protect and defend our Constitiution, and forcibly remove every last politician who has ever regarded that document with anything less than reverence. Yes, that means a lot of RINO's gone too, but imagine the joy in the streets when Pelosi, Reid, and Obama all share a cage in GITMO with Arlen Specter and the two slug senators from Maine next door.

Mrs. Hollis
Are we discussing "Deception"? I have seen you of late and you don't look like the picture posted. Dr. Hayek did not live in a "Global" environment. Therefore, only one who is limited in economic knowledge, would use him to explain today. Mothers are so scared by an abortion procedure,that they runaway. Yet abortions have slightly increased. There is something missing in your attempt to define President Obama. They are called "Facts". Any person of reason, would say, President Obama inherited what we see today. If his intention is to destroy our "Wealth", then President Bush must be cited for his participation. Remember; "Economics is the Disguise of Politics"! I liked the article because you said what every "Liar" wants to say....

Brooks was invented by the MSM
This spineless, liberal's pet was made to stand as a marker. Anyone to the right of Gergen, Brooks, etc. are the far right. I'll bet he's twisting up inside as his world view collides with undeniable reality. There will be more awakenings. Watch the Hollywood types. This will be fun. Wager with your freinds. Who will learn, who will regress and who will lose their marbles. I'm watching Jon Stewart get more bitter,more hateful every week.

David Brooks is still
a girly man who fears the GOP more than the commie/community organizer known as B. Hussein Obama. Brooks still remains clueless. The same for Dame Peggy Noonan and Chatty Kathleen Parker, two simpering idiots who shilled for Obama/Biden. We are in for it unless the public wakes up. McCain received 46% of the vote - we need another 5% to swing over to get rid of Pres. Zero. Pray. He will do everything to steal the next election.

Brainless Obama Cultists
This column should be read by every clueless American who voted for the Messiah. The millions of voters, some of them very rich and very well educated, who cast ballots for this Marxist ideologue deserve to lose their fortunes. Obviously when they stepped into the voting booths they lost their minds.

BeastieBoy is a communist agitator
He's not here to present solutions. He's here to make problems. At least he gets it right when he calls himself "boy".

Don't matter, These God Damn Liberals
always think they know EVERYTHING. I mean, have you ever heard a liberal apologize? Have you ever heard a liberal say, "oops, I made a mistake"? Never. They name-call and always point the finger at others to blame. They are self-righteous, higher God-like creatures with infinite information(aka:"know-it-alls"). One common theme I've noticed about liberals over the years is that they collectivley have a childlike mentality. They all act like fourth-graders. And as sure as I post this, they will retaliate with name-calling such as "you right-wing hacks and neocons!" and/or say something bad about George W. Bush(the last American President). Liberals are easier to read than a children's book.

Let's give you the society you want
arcman: "One last thing for Beastie Boy. It was governmental over-regulation, over-taxation and union interference that has been driving manufacturing jobs overseas. This is a trend that has been going on for at least the last 40 years."

Tell you what -- how about we import some water from the cesspools of China for you and your children to drink. We can even import some food from their toxic farmland, and have you paint your house with lead paint and them play with lead-coated Chinese toys. See how well that works for you....

To be blunt, people like you deserve it. I hope your children end up glowing.

Why is it that businesses can form unions (conglomerates, mergers), but workers can't?

India's lost half century (cont)
In 1991 the changes were made to slowly do away with socialism. Highest incomes tax were reduced from about 75+% (somewhere between 75-90+); reduced to 37%. Estate Tax was completely eliminated. Private holdings of industry were encouraged. International investment was promoted. This brought India out from the brink of disaster.

Even then the country has not been able to progress as rapidly because the entrenched government bureaucracy is a tremendous drag to progress. If you saw the movie "Slumdog Millionaire" --- those slums are still exist --- but the millionaires were made by the education and private enterprise in the high-tech industries.

Infrastructure is still a basket case. Progress is very slow; public education is a mess; (private education is very expensive affordable by only the political & Bollywood elite); crime is rampant (kidnappings & murder)and on and on. (continued in my next post)

Ratas y Ratones of 3:11
It strains belief to realize there are people whose thought process is so twisted by emotions that they support collectivism. Dumbo too far right????? Mercy. Please have mercy.

As you note the bill is coming due. We have a couple things going for us that the tyrants you mention didn't have to overcome. We were a prosperous society before Dumbo, so his economic failures will probably be blamed on him. We still have reasonably honest elections, and in extremis, the 2nd.

One last thing
One last thing for Beastie Boy. It was governmental over-regulation,over-taxation and union interference that has been driving manufacturing jobs overseas. This is a trend that has been going on for at least the last 40 years.

Marine Intelligence: an oxymoron
Jarbrain: "Obama didn't earn the Presidency of the United States...

he INHERITED it!"

Last time I looked, he had a lot more votes than the senile citizen and his bimbette sidekick. Even Diebold couldn't steal it for the other guy.

Obama "inherited" the rotten trunk of a nation that Bush and his termites hollowed out and left for dead. Fixing it will take bold effort and a dose of socialism, as the (not-really free) markets cannot cope with the disaster without dramatic dislocations. Better to have a dose of socialism than a workers' revolution.

India's lost half century
Every one looks at Soviet Russia, Communist China, Eastern Europe where Socialism/Marxism failed. One other country where Socialism has failed is India. From 1950 to 1991 India had various government that practised bureaucratic Socialism where the politicians were an elite class and every one elso was a peon or slumdog.

The economic policies along with nationalisation of banks and other major components suchs oil, steel, agriculture, railways etc took India to bankruptcy (or the verge of it) in 1991. (continued in my next post)

America 2008 = Germany 1933
Like Hitler, Obama made his agenda crystal clear. Like Hitler, Obama set his radical thoughts down in a book for all to read. Like Hitler, Obama gave innumerable speeches laying out his ideology.

Like the majority of the German people, the American people created a messianic figure that would save them from all evil in the world. Like the German people, the American people willingly traded rationality for delusional mass hysteria. Like the German people, the American people have traded their liberty for the illusion of security.

No American needed to be particularly prescient to understand that Obama is a Marxist ideologue. One only needed to be sane and sober. The American people have devolved into a silly stupid people, quite undeserving of any respect, and I curse them accordingly.

I damn the supposed “Conservative” intelligencia, including such ignoramuses as Kathleen Parker, Steve Chapman, Peggy Noonan, David Brooks, and Buckley, to hell for all eternity.

If any of them now feel compelled to commit an act of honorable contrition, I suggest that they slit their wrists.

But alas, they have no honor.

Why not just re-inflate the bubble?
DavidM: " beasite you are an idiot
The plane is crashing and you complain that the previous pilots didn't replace the upholstery.

I can tell you EXACTLY HOW to fix it:
1. Drop capital gains rate to 10%.
2. Drop corporate tax rate to 10%.

The DOW would be over 10,000 within 4-6 months, easy."

All that you would have succeeded in doing is re-inflating the bubble. We could re-inflate the housing bubble to some extent by the same tactics. We could also give everyone a haircut by stoking the flames of inflation.

The plane is crashing because Bush was at the helm. Bank balance sheets didn't suddenly go south when Obama entered the White House -- they were trashed because Bu$hCo. turned Wall Street into a freakin' casino, and markers got called.

I can see that you have never run a business other than Goober's Fillin' Station, David. You can't run a business without customers, 'Neck.

Brooks and Buckley
Once again prove that you can be an well educated idiot--all they had to do is a very simple internet investigation---"progressives(read communists)for Obama" --they clearly state on their website O will win by the illusion of being centrist but who,once entering office will pull hard left....plain as the nose on your face---what incredible A****

Unbelievable !


Crowhaul
Location: NV
Reply # 19
Date: Mar 4, 2009 - 9:47 PM EST This article is untrue:
Because the truth of the matter is that we Dems generally feel that Obama is too far to the right.

~~~

Several years ago, I would have said that it is not possible that anyone could be this stupid.

I must, now, recant that statement.

~~~

It is apparent that the Idolaters, believe in their Idol.

Only the enemy will be cast into the fires.

A brief review of recent history, might scare them.

Stalin's Russia. Millions of faithful's were slaughtered.
Hitler's Germany, same story.
North Korea, same story.
Pol Pot's Cambodia, same story.
Viet Nam, same story.

Strange thing. The educated were always the first into the fires.

Therefore, Crowhog seems to be safe, although it will now be starving.


It is sad, but we are all on that same path.



BLOOD IN THE STREETS

America did not risk nuclear annihilation in its struggle with the USSR, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, so that we could become a socialist state. This is not our destiny. It is not the American way. And it won’t happen here. For our way is individual liberty not economic oppression, tyrannical taxation and collectivization as represented by the 44th President and the 111th Congress. In trying to drag the American people kicking and screaming into the socialist future Barack Obama and the radical Left are going to create a populist backlash and destroy themselves. This is why Obama is President. This is why Pelosi and Reid control Congress. This is the last hurrah of the counter culture sixties, its final day in the sun before it expires and disappears from history.

Click ApolloSpeaks and read the rest of: Blood in the Streets: the Coming Populist Conservative Revolt

I Agree with Sandy in TX!
I think the main point of the above article is that we should be listening more to those who were right about Obama's agenda and his leftist mentors. Gov Huckabee was consistently right during the primaries - when everyone else was getting it wrong - even so called conservative leaders. Huckabee was right about Bush's "arrogant" refusal to listen, right about jobs and the economy, right about the open border and illegal immigration, right about taxes, about fiscal policy, bailouts, he was right about faith and culture, freedom and liberty, the second amendment, he was right about national sovereignty and the trend towards globalization, etc... Huckabee was way ahead of curve, and still is. I hope people are watching his show.

Here is a great blog that I think conservative ought to read and share, concerning an approach our would-be party leaders should take to put the liberal media and the Democrats on defense where they belong:

http://www.redstate.com/neokong/2009/03/02/an-open-letter-t o-michael-steele-and-eric-cantor/

To Beastie Boy
You really like to call names withot facts. I guess that you've been hand fed and pampered your useless life.
Try living in a place where if you have ambition, you get demoted (read yesterday's news "Raul Castro demotes Vice President and Minister").
Of course, since you have no ambition, you can marry a person of your own sex, have yourself aborted, pay 75% tax, give up your guns, get insulted if you make a moral comment, get a ticket if you say a prayer, get insulted if you don't like a liberal, and all the other ridiculous regulations that the liberal democrats want to push on us, including electing liberal judges that legislate from the bench. Check out the Traditional Values Coalition Web page:
http://www.traditionalvalues.org
They show how the liberal democrats in government trample on moral values and helps us in being knowlegeable about important issues, like abortion, gay marriage, gun control, economic freedom, and other moral issues more important than your ranting and raving.

The best to lead
I believe Mike Huckabee is the one leader who can get the party off the bench and back into the game. I respect and trust Mike because he is a true conservative who is courageous enough to speak the truth and facts with humility, humor and conviction. Check out the Vertical Politics Institute he has begun and read his last book DO THE RIGHT THING for insight on what a wise and articulate man he is. The Republicans need his leadership skills to expand the membership of the GOP and start winning elections again !

The only thing that makes this
tolerable is knowing that all those idiot voters in affluent suburbs who voted for Obama are losing their retirement savings and the money they have invested for their kids college tuition. The wealthy can and will hide their wealth or leave for greener pastures as they always do, but the upper middles are stuck in the same boat as everyone else. Personally, I've learned to take pleasure in the Dow dropping, unemployment rates cllimbing, businesses closing. Pretty much I want the collapse sooner rather than later and I want it to be brutal then we can either sink into marxism and chaos or fix the country -- either way it hurts less to pull the bandaid off quickly.

One thing
Kmiec and Sebelius are not Catholics they may claim to be so but Sebelius has been excommunicated and Kmiec is a fraud. There is no such thing as an real Catholic who supports abortion it is the equivalent of saying your a Muslim but Mohammed is not the prophet, or that you are a born-again Christian but Jesus did not bring you salvation.

Unfortunately, too many U.S. Bishops are cowards witness the easy annulments given to prominent, rich Catholics like the Kennedy's and Lee Iaccoca. Or worse still Pelosi et al. receiving communion. There is a glut of very bad priests and bishops from the baby-boom generation and the small generation right before them. Young priests are actually as a whole more faithful to the Church and its teachings

Moderates
David Brooks like all moderates are useless. They are political children singing kum-bu -ay

FulghumInk
I'm a Marxist? Awesome. I wasn't aware the entrance exam was as loose as simply not believing in a big fairy in the sky.

WELCOME TO THE ARISTOCRACY
Like I said before the "RESSURECTION":

"Beware a wolf in sheeps clothing"

I AM INTERESTED IN YOU OBAMA VOTERS WHO ACTUALLY HAVE A BUSINESS.

I AM INTERESTED IN YOU OBAMA VOTERS WHO ACTUALLY PAY YOUR MORTGAGE.

I AM INTERESTED IN YOU OBAMA VOTERS WHO ARE CONSIDERED 'RICH'.

DID HE SHOVE IT IN YOUR FACE FAST ENOUGH?

LOLOLOLOLOL

THAT IS MY LAUGH TO YOU ALL.

ROWDY BOOTS

To: Cavell

That would be catagory number 3.

This article is untrue:
Because the truth of the matter is that we Dems generally feel that Obama is too far to the right.

Indeed!

It is this citizen's view that there are three catagories of those who voted for a complete and utter fraud for president: 1) Those who can be fooled all of the time, 2) Those who can be fooled some of the time, and 3) Those who are Marxist socialist miscreants like the refuse that now slimes around the White House.

None of the above fall into the catagory of "moderate."

Don't be so hard on Beastie Boy
after all, he's only repeating what his "savior" has been saying for the entire time he's been in the president...

why, if he's said it once, he's said it a thousand times...

President Bush bequeathed the Office of the President to him...

Obama didn't earn the Presidency of the United States...

he INHERITED it!


beasite you are an idiot
The plane is crashing and you complain that the previous pilots didn't replace the upholstery.

I can tell you EXACTLY HOW to fix it:
1. Drop capital gains rate to 10%.
2. Drop corporate tax rate to 10%.

The DOW would be over 10,000 within 4-6 months, easy.

The problem is that limits your *god*, your one and only: the federal government.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/250.html

For those with IQ above room temp, that page shows the upper 50% of income earners paid MORE TAXES after the Bush tax cuts: 97% of them to be precise.

Only in Beasties addled mind does that mean the rich aren't taxed enough.

Maybe someone can let him know the purse strings have been controlled by DEMOCRATS for two years now- its time to own up.

Funny you mention hoovervilles, Barry O and Slow Biden are taking the DOW right back to where it was back when FDR was extending the great depression.

Since you haven't crawled out of your crib you can't understand it, and I doubt you ever will.


Beastie Boy
McCain is not President. Bush is not President. Obama is President.

It's Obama's problem.

Is he incompetent to deal with the problem?

jtb
I think it's begun, I think Americans were too complacent and apathetic to do anything about the leftward slant our Country has taken in the past 60 odd years, however this magicone has gotten in our faces. I think the American people are beginning to realize Freedom isn't Free.
I've been fascinated by the comparison between
the Pharoah of Exodus and this modern pharoah wannabe. Think about it..they have the same
haughty kinglike arrogance, that their word
is law; Obama speaks and the world must stop..Pharoah spoke..'so let it be written, so let it be done.' No arguments, no votes.
It even goes with their policies on life..Pharoah ordered the murder of boy Hebrew babies to three months after birth..O orders the murder of preborn and born babies worldwide;
Pharoah was worshipped as a god and accepted it;
O was idolized (worshipped) and he accepted it..he didn't tell his adherents to stop the adoration, he's fed and is feeding on it.
Pharoah was given warnings before each plague, and given a chance to repent and let the people go; He refused. O has seen the economy tank since he won, and has done nothing about it except try and accelerate it and his other
plans to destroy our people..Pharoah did the same to the Hebrew's forcing onerous work orders upon them. Funny how the Hebrews survived and Pharoal lost everything..son and heir, Egypts economy and strength, it's army and if he was leading them..his life. God is
allowing this disaster to awaken a nation of greedy ingrates; the modern plagues will continue and will get worse until the nation turns back to Him. And we believers must stand in the gap for our people..God promised Abraham
that if just 10 righteous people were found in Sodom/Gomorrah he's spare them..there are more
in this country that are praying.

For David
Is "Beastie Boy" an alias for Lon or LoneRules with a bakvas AK address?

(that would certainly explain his problem with facts)

jtb
Too bad the eastern voters couldn't get past Romney's religion which they really know very little about except what other churches propogandize. Romney is what we needed. This white house will lie, cheat, and steal to destroy our constitution led republic...while starrey eyed idiots continue to display their ignorance and give this guy a pass on everything he does. NOTICE TO LIB MEDIA: even your personal wealth will disappear. This sucks.

Faux Conservatives
I have more respect for a diehard liberal who sticks to his guns than a fair-weather conservative. They are the dregs.

The problem with some Republicans,they don't much like conservatives. Especially, Christian Conservatives. They are sort of ashamed of us...like that weird cousin they don't speak about.

They are elite,or so they think. One thing Obama will do with his income distribution is he will put us all on a level playing field. Maybe the so-called elites will be that no more.

Even though I had to hold my nose
I voted for McAmnesty. But maybe, just maybe, there are enough Democrats who truly love Liberty and America that Obama's failure need not be America's failure...

I think our only hope is for a penitent nation to seek help from the LORD.

We Told Them So......

What better place to begin a National Chapter of The BHO Buyers Remorse Club.. than with the "chameleon conservatives".. Apparently, Brooks and Buckley have confessed (to their abject PC Stupidity), so far.. I hope that they weren't motivated, strictly, by personal financial loses in the No Confidence in BHO Stock Markets, by any chance??

As if John McSame would have done better
David: "Since the current administration was elected, the Dow has lost 30% of its value and private sector job losses have skyrocketed. Even so, and despite the best efforts of your president and your side of Congress, the economy is nowhere near the nearly 14% inflation, 16% interest rates and 10% unemployment."

And John McCain would have stopped that how? By selling off all the houses he didn't know he had?

The speculative bubble in stocks had to blow off; it was inevitable. And as for deficit spending, to quote Ronald Reagan, the only difference between your red-horned hero and a drunken sailor is that the sailor spends his own money. Eight trillion in deficits is quite enough for one President, don't you think?

If you're a chartist, you're expecting the Dow to fall to about 4,000. See this chart: http://www.chartoftheday.com/20090227.htm?T. The business cycle is inexorable, but things can be done to ease the blow and the carnage -- you buzzards seem to prefer carnage, tho.


accuracy, please
I wasn't aware the GOP was promoting civil union legislation, nationally or locally. Probably because we aren't. Let's check the platform. Yup. Still opposed to it.

The 2008 GOP platform calls for a constitutional amendment to prevent the creation of other arrangements, i.e. civil unions, equivalent to marriage.

Gee, Laura. Guess maybe you are misrepresenting Republican policy on that issue, probably to make the GOP sound less intolerant and mean than it is on that issue. Makes me wonder what else you aren't telling the truth about . . .

I suspect that, for good or ill, the political capital President Barak has simply due to public dissatisfaction with Bush will carry him forward for several years, even if his policies are more leftist than originally thought.

Only when you cook the books, David
Income tends to go up during expansions, and fall during contractions. Check out this graph from a Republican website and note the downward trend:

http://www.house.gov/jec/middle/crunch3/fig-3a.gif

Beastie Boy (Part 3)
6) Since the current administration was elected, the Dow has lost 30% of its value and private sector job losses have skyrocketed. Even so, and despite the best efforts of your president and your side of Congress, the economy is nowhere near the nearly 14% inflation, 16% interest rates and 10% unemployment.

7) The current Chief of Staff summed up the strategy best when he said that "We can not let a crisis like this to go to waste."

Your president has used his bully pulpit to spread fear and panic throughout the economy in an apparently deliberate attempt to create a depression in order to gain power. Not only do I hope that he fails, any person with any interest in our country wants him to fail. At least we didn't actively work to sabotage the nation as you did in order to gain your power.

Beastie Boy (Part 2)
...continuation...

4) The Democrats controlled the Congress for the previous two years and were always able to filibuster any proposals they didn't agree with in the prior six, while the Republican Party was not uniform in their philosophy (enough RINO's to prevent free-market economics from prevailing). The current economy didn't falter until late in 2008, after six years of growth at around three percent a year.

5) Our nation currently has a much higher corporate tax rate than our competitors in Europe and Asia, which means that the environment is more favorable to re-locate there. Even so, the standard of living is greater now than it was during the 1950's.

...continued...

When did THAT door hit him in the face?
Brooks the faux conservative had an epiphany? God willing it's true. As for the others feeling "Voter's Remorse" I say SCREW YOU ALL!!!
WHERE were your brains on 11/4/08? Karma is a cast iron byatch losers!!

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!

Beastie Boy
We realize that you have a problem with facts, so here are some to help you...

1) During the 1980's when the top marginal tax rate was reduced, income grew at all quintiles (per the Commerce Dept), and grew faster for the lowest fifth than for the upper fifth.

2) Revenues to the treasury doubled when the tax rates were reduced, with the wealthier taxpayers paying a greater share. Currently, the top 5% earn 31% of the total income and paid 60% of the taxes.

3) During the 1950's (when the top rate was 95%), we were the only nation capable of meeting the demand for consumer goods. As other nations became competitive, our economy slumped and the tax rate was lowered to 70%.

...continued...
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