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Wednesday, February 11, 2009
Laura Hollis :: Townhall.com Columnist
The New Americans: Peasants by Choice
by Laura Hollis
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I’ve been watching the excellent BBC mini-series entitled, “Fall of Eagles.” Filmed in 1974, it tells the stories of the collapse of three enormous dynasties: the Hapsburgs of Austria-Hungary, the Hohenzollerns of Prussia/Germany, and the Romanovs of Russia.

The miniseries takes place from the late 1800s until 1914. Watching these events unfold on film, one cannot help but be struck by an astonishing fact: Less than 100 years ago – my own grandparents were alive -- millions of people lived in abject poverty across vast swaths of Europe and all of Russia. Rural serfs and urban factory workers endured abysmal conditions, starving and destitute. As the nineteenth century ended and the twentieth century began, people were struggling – often by violent means – to overthrow oppressive governments that stifled every hope and possibility of a better life.

To see this is to understand anew what a remarkable, unprecedented, and utterly unique country the United States was – and is. While the European emperors pontificated, peasants starved, and revolutionaries incited to violence on the eve of World War I, the United States had already been a free nation, a democratic Republic, for nearly 140 years. Russian Tsar Nicholas II, Hapsburg Emperor Franz-Josef, and Kaiser Wilhelm II thought America a silly, frivolous, hopelessly naïve country doomed to failure. They were proven wrong when America’s entry into the Great War helped end it. They were proven wrong when their own people insisted upon the rights that Americans already had. They were proven wrong when they were toppled from their thrones.

But life remained grim after the monarchies. Germany flung itself from the brief Weimar Republic to the horrific Third Reich of Adolf Hitler, who plunged Europe and Russia into World War II. Millions more Europeans died – 20 million in Russia alone, and 6 million Jews, victim of Hitler’s “final solution.” Russians, Hungarians, Poles, and the rest of the people in what became the Soviet Union descended into the Communism of Lenin and Stalin, and tens of millions more died in privations far worse than the tsars and their okhranka could have dreamt up - famines, purges, persecutions, executions, labor camps.

While Europe was drenched in blood, what was happening in the United States? True, America lost soldiers in World War I. And even more American soldiers gave their lives in World War II. Yes, America suffered through the Stock Market Crash of 1929 and the Great Depression. And yes, America had equality issues still unaddressed in the first half of the twentieth century.

But, even given our country’s failures, the citizens of the United States enjoyed relative peace, political freedom, personal liberty, and economic opportunities that the rest of the Western world – even enlightened Britain – could not match. This has not been the exception in American history. It has been the rule.

It is profoundly disturbing, therefore, to see Americans’ present-day responses to the current economic blip. Because that it what it ought to be – another hiccup in our history, like so many others we have faced and bested with ingenuity, entrepreneurial thinking, individual initiative, patience, sacrifice, and confidence in the superiority of our system.

But not this time. This time, instead of our leaders inspiring us with uplifting – and historically true – accounts of America’s exceptionalism (yes, that is the right word), and the can-do attitude of the average American, our current government fills the airwaves with doom and gloom, and warns of impending “crises” and “catastrophes,” unless we sell ourselves to the government, which will take care of us by taking everything we have, denying us control over our own lives, and promising goodies that cannot be paid for. This is not stimulus; it is “stealfromus.” It is not security; it is slavery.

It is self-serving deception of the highest sort, completely and resoundingly refuted by history. Our Founding Fathers never saw the Soviet Union, Cuba, North Korea, Cambodia, or the Sudan. And didn’t need to. They knew enough of government to know that a people dependent upon any form of government would be a people enslaved by it. Nothing in the 200+ years since they lived has proven them wrong.

America was a grand and successful experiment, light years ahead of its time. (And, contrary to what our self-appointed constitutional scholar-President claims, our Constitution does not have a “blind spot.” Someone needs to tell him that the Drafters’ decision to limit government’s power over us was deliberate.) And now, with a single Presidential election, a pile of bad mortgages, and a few giddy and appallingly ignorant headlines, many Americans want to sweep that all away in the name of a ‘change’ which has been proven fatally flawed time and time again. Less than 100 years ago, most people across the planet were peasants by circumstance. Americans are at risk of taking their place in the rarefied pantheon of peoples who have become peasants by vote.

A few weeks ago, Louisiana governor Bobby Jindal warned that Republicans needed a message, that they could not simply be the party of “no.” But Republicans still don’t seem to get it. This is because Republicans are trying to figure out what to tell the American public about Republicans. How about talking to Americans about themselves? Talk about our resilience. Talk about our spirit. Talk about our independence, our self-sufficiency and our charity. Talk about our 233-year track record of fixing things ourselves!

America’s system of limited government is not perfect. But it is better. In fact, I would submit that America has always been better because America has never claimed to be perfect. The worst excesses of human history have taken place when men believed that their opponents were all that stood between them and utopia. The United States has escaped so many of these horrors because we have had a healthy – and justified - fear of government; because we have never expected government to bring about heaven on earth. One need only know a little history to see that. But one must know at least a little history to see that.

In one of the last episodes of “Fall of Eagles,” entitled Indian Summer of an Emperor, the aging Franz-Josef is being implored by one of his generals to declare war on Serbia, where his nephew (and heir) the Archduke Franz Ferdinand had just been assassinated by a Serbian nationalist. Franz-Josef was less inclined to resort to war than other European rulers, and that trait deepened as he aged. But his general is unimpressed by the Emperor’s reserve, and demands that “times must change.”

“Ah,” Franz-Josef sighs, “it is quite easy to get change. It is not so easy to get progress.”

If Republicans are looking for a message, that would be a place to start.

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Laura Hirschfeld Hollis is a Clinical Professor of Business Administration at the University of Illinois.

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change v. progress
Ms. Hollis, excellent article. It is frightening to see how many people in this country want things given to them by the government without working for them. It seems they're willing to give up their freedom for "things." And it's breath-taking to see how fast the demise of those freedoms is coming.

The new economic war
The first shots have been fired in the new economic war. With the $4 billion that the US Government is giving to ACORN (and we know why), I wouldn't be at all surprised to see millions of Americans pulling their money out of Bank of America once they realized that the bank gave $2 million bucks to ACORN. I can see the CEO of BOA telling us that the only reason they did was because community organizers/lawyers like Barack Obama were suing them.

This war will spread. It is almost time for the question of Tony Rezko to resurface.

Very well said, Mrs. Hollis
Looking forward to your book on the culture of adolescence. No wonder we have a narcissistic, marxist, socialist boy president in the WH.

Proletariat by Choice
Not peasants, ma'am. Proles.

"Lumpenproletariat (a German word meaning "raggedy proletariat") is a term first defined by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels in The German Ideology (1845) and later elaborated on in works by Marx.

In The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Napoleon (1852), Marx refers to the lumpenproletariat as the 'refuse of all classes,' including 'swindlers, confidence tricksters, brothel-keepers, rag-and-bone merchants, beggars, and other flotsam of society.' In the Eighteenth Brumaire, Marx describes the lumpenproletariat as a 'class fraction' that constituted the political power base for Louis Bonaparte of France in 1848. In this sense, Marx argued that Bonaparte was able to place himself above the two main classes, the proletariat and bourgeoisie, by resorting to the 'lumpenproletariat' as an apparently independent base of power, while in fact advancing the material interests of the bourgeoisie."


Laura Hollis
BINGO! The new symbol of America is a Begging, Brood, Sow and a Lazy, McConald's Lifer!

In retrospect, it was ''silly...''
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"...frivolous, [and] hopelessly naïve" of America to have entered the Great War so that it might be ended in favor of the Grand Entente.

Said powers having proven the point in screwing up by the numbers in the wake of that conflagration.

Literally EVERYTHING that went wrong with the rest of the 20th Century (and what we've seen of the 21st) has been the result of how France and the United Kingdom mucked up the planet.

Better by far if they had lost.


"If Republicans are looking for a message" today, that message is simple.

Keep your friggin' hands off.




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"The First World War killed fewer victims than the Second World War, destroyed fewer buildings, and uprooted millions instead of tens of millions - but in many ways it left even deeper scars both on the mind and on the map of Europe. The old world never recovered from the shock."

-- Edmond Taylor

Silly column
What is different now? FDR did the same as Obama and even Ford. Reliance on the government has been going on for a long time--from Lincoln, to FDR, to LBJ to Bush and now Obama--the names and paty may change but the progression of more and more government control doesn't.


SJ
Do you know was in charge of ww1 and ww2 in this country. I would sugest that you go read some history, then come back and comment. Oh and if you need a reading list, I would be glad to give one.
Kirk

Five stars
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Don Juan

Don Juan

There is one very important condition that also has to be met. The rest of the world has to be bombed flat, just like it was after WWII.

No amount of taxing the rich or unionization will help now because there are other places to move to. China is sitting on a pile of dollars same with India.

This financial meltdown has taught everyone that the US consumer is tapped out and others have to pickup the slack.

kirk - Got anything SPECIFIC to say?
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Maunders kirk:

"Do you know was in charge of ww1 and ww2 in this country. I would sugest that you go read some history, then come back and comment. Oh and if you need a reading list, I would be glad to give one."


Well, I'm always glad to add to my fund of knowledge on the first half of the 20th Century. Though I think your personal "reading list" (unspecified; now why is that?) is likely to be pretty damned poor by comparison with what I've already got on my bookshelves.

Cough it up, why don'tcha?

Meanwhile, consider *Wilson's War: How Woodrow Wilson's Great Blunder Led to Hitler, Lenin, Stalin, and World War II* by Jim Powell (2005) for a good brief appreciation of the particular subject upon which I'd posted earlier.

(( Remember also that Franklin Delano Roosevelt - the man who gave us the Great Depression - came up as an apparatchik in Wilson's "Progressive" administration, and in the 1930s predicated his unconstitutional interventions in the American economy upon Wilson's unconstitutional dirigisme during World War One. ))

Mencken's "Saint Woodrow" has much upon which we can and should call down damnation, now and evermore.




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"War is just a racket. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of people. Only a small inside group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few at the expense of the masses."

-- Smedley Darlington Butler, Major General, USMC

Religious fascist?
Don't you guys just get the biggest kick out of our ol' Don Juan? He can't attack the argument, so he attacks the speaker, and for some reason, he always wants to go for the religious angle, even when it's completely irrelevant. I don't think he knows what "fascist" means, either, since he accuses me wrongfully of being one. But then, as we've seen with his silly, self-important posts, you don't have to actually PROVE anything is true when your entire position consists of, "Yes you are because I say so."

And anyway, he has a crush on me. :)

Kirk
The Democratic Party--President and both houses of Congress, why?


Dear Don
Oh, pooh. You're the one who needs to take a chill pill. Soul "charred to blackness"? My, my - what a flair for the dramatic! Why, you sound just like the evangelicals you despise. "They don't agree with me, so they must be EEEEEVUHL." And when was the last time you saw me defend the decision to go into Iraq? I think it was a terrible decision, even if I don't think that Bush "lied" about Saddam having weapons of mass destruction.

Actually, I support union workers, and collective bargaining generally, but I don't think much of union leaders. That's no different from believing in the American public, but having precious little faith in elected representatives. Big whoop.

And, having lived in Detroit (not as long as you, but so what? You know more than everyone about everything, so what difference does it make?) I can tell you that the Teamsters are tough (more power to them), but there is another union they are afraid of, and it's the MEA.

Laura, a fascist
is anyone who disagrees with a liberal. :)

Great article, by the way. Now what happens to those of us who don't want to be serfs? Is there anything we can do to stem the socialist tsunami set to engulf our country?

Good Article Ms. Hollis.....
and thanks for the ACCURATE history lessons at the beginning of the column.......

"This is not stimulus; it is “stealfromus.” It is not security; it is slavery."

says it all for me......

Change we can believe in is fast approaching....

Monty: (excellent)...

Andrea from WI
Thanks for the definition. I must have missed that one on M-W.com!

Yours really is the operative question, isn't it? I think that the answer depends upon which aspect of serfdom is being discussed. First, Specter, Snowe and Collins should LOSE THEIR JOBS. But as I don't live in PA or ME, I can't help with that. MY first recommendations will be for the "Fairness Doctrine."

And that will be the next column. Stay tuned ...

:)

Looking forward to it, Laura

As for the "Republicans started it" mantra from the liberals, in nouthetic counseling we call that the "you, too" rationalization. Instead of owning up to their faults in order to make progress, the confronted ones will deflect and say: "You do it, too." Nevermind, that the Dems are doing what the Repubs did--in spades--liberals think they can silence us by using the "h" word. Hypocrite. Well, that isn't going to make their government expanding policies work, is it?

Doom and Gloom
I love it when conservatives talk about Obama and Doom and Gloom.

George Bush and Dick Cheney perfected the craft.

Message to Republicans: Become fiscally conservative and drop the religious right. America needs you back.

subcritical
Doom & Gloom;it was the democrats that brought it on!if there were no right wingers, you'd have nothing to crow about! you could waller in the muck all you want!

laura
i don't think you understand what made america different. its vast middle class. every country has its rich and poor. but the american middle class is what made us different. and we have been under assault, especially the last 8 years. i mean dubya once said he didn't understand poor people. well he's never been one so that doesn't surprise me. under his non leadership the us was well on its way to being a two bit, crony capitalist, banana republic. i just hope we are not beyond repair.

Roy
Of course I understand. The availability of economic opportunity is what enabled poor Americans to move into the middle class - and, of course, up out of it as well. It is our system that has made that possible.

Unfortunately, the "middle class" in this country is being sold a bill of goods. And hating Dubya doesn't change that. The entitlements that presidents of both stripes and our hapless, emasculated Congress have promised the middle class - AND the poor - CANNOT be paid for, CANNOT be sustained, and WILL bankrupt the country. Spending the way we do now - even without the "stimulus" and even without hurtling faster toward socialism - is unsustainable. Don't take my word for it. Read last year's report of the Acting Comptroller General. We won't be able to tax enough. We won't be able to borrow enough. This is just math.

Much of the American public does not understand this, and they believe Congress when they're told "everything will be okay." But that is simply not true. And what do you think will happen when there is no more Social Security? No more Aid to Families with Dependent Children? No more Medicaid? No more Medicare?

It will be war in the streets. And poverty. And hunger. And illness. And death.

Cutting back now is not heartless. It is survival. Just as some companies, in lean times, MUST layoff workers or reduce spending, so, too, must governments IN ORDER TO SURVIVE. Short term pain now versus long-term pain later.

Those who advocate for policies like Obama & Co's are not "brilliant" and they are not "compassionate." They are either inexcusably stupid, or deliberately deceitful. Or both.

Don Juan
You truly are hilarious. Trying to pin the tail on Bush for the economic problems we now face. While he may bear a fraction of the blame, much more of it should be laid at the feet of "affirmative action in lending."

As for unions, go bark up a tree somewhere else. Unions had their day until the power structure became utterly corrupt. As far as I'm concerned, they bear part of the blame for our automakers' problems...

laura
well you know when the afl-cio,the national association of manufacturers and the us chamber of commerce all back the stimulus that this is not your garden variety recession. you have to stop the bleeding of jobs. 500,000 a month. and if we learned anything during the bush years it was that tax cuts do not spur job creation. now a middle class tax cut will spur consumer spending but in order to get a tax cut you have to have a job first.

Laura, great article.
I really appreciated, as did Silver Lion, the prose, "This is not stimulus; it is 'stealfromus.' It is not security; it is slavery." That is great stuff; I feel that noteworthy prose is an art, not a skill which can be learned. Also of particular note due to the obvious was the "...it is quite easy to get change. It is not so easy to get progress."

I don't know about other writers here at TownHall.com, but it's nice to see you actually tracking and responding to comments.

I currently live in Detroit and cannot understand how anyone could possibly think unions were NEVER corrupt; they were born corrupt and evil. Collective bargaining is one thing; collectively putting a gun to business' head is committing extortion, an evil crime.

People Just Not Strong Enough
I think that at some point, all societies will fall to one form of slavery or another. And it's because far too many of the masses are not strong enough to live a life of freedom.

To know how weak our society has become, you just have to consider how easy life is in the United States. Yet we have more people whining and complaining than probably exist in the rest of the world in total. We have a society now where the majority of the people are weak. Incredibly so. And so they're looking for someone to take care of them and give them what they want.

And when you couple the weakness of so many who can't succeed - even in the United States - with their jealousy towards those who can, they turn to government to take away from the achievers and give it to them. And in many cases, these people become outright beggars.

And right now, we have the beggars who will sell their soul for an Obama to come around and give them something. And just as is always the case, they will walk right into slavery.

Don Juan and Roy
You folks really have memorized the Dem talking points, haven't you?

First, my dad was a union organizer from the 1930s to 1972 when he died. Union jobs reached a high of 31% of the labor market in 1947. That's the highest rate that has ever existed and in the 1950s it dropped to 28%. So, the "golden years" of the 1950s really weren't built on the back of the unions.

Second, the tax rates remain the highest on "richer" citizens and, especially on businesses. We have an incredibly high corporate tax rate which strangles investment in this country.

And, Reagan's lowering of the marginal tax rates set off a 25-year more or less boom economy, so I wouldn't call it a "abject failure". The current economic recession is due to excess government deficit spending, government meddling in the mortgage market, and a failure of regulators to rein in the unsupported credit market, resulting in maxed out credit cards being dumped into home equity which further undermined the mortgage situation.

IOW, this recession, which isn't even as bad as the one in the Carter Admin, was caused mostly by a lack of personal credit responsibility that was encouraged by government spending.

How does it help to go on doing the same thing -- excessive government spending?

Good article, Laura!

Relentless warfare on Middle Class?
What relentless warfare on the middle class?

I AM MIDDLE CLASS! For the last 10 years my husband and I have made a combined income of $50-80,000 a year depending on a good construction year or a bad one. That's as middle class as it gets. We qualify for no government benefits!

Thank you, Mr. Reagan, the Republican Congress of the 1990s and GW Bush for giving me the economic opportunity to improve my station from borderline poverty to middle class. I appreciated the lower tax rates that allowed me to keep more of my money in my bank account to buy a home or send my children to private school. I appreciated the lower tax rates that made it easier for my employers to offer me jobs or raises within those jobs.

I predict that by 2012, my tax rate will have gone up, but my paycheck will have remained flat or gone down. I call that a relentless war on the Middle Class. What we've had for the last 20 years has been a freeing of the middle class to actually make something of ourselves. If you failed to take advantage of that, please look in the mirror for someone to blame.

Stepped on and forgotten
This is not a drive by shooting, this is an old fashion beating where the victim is stumped for further humiliation. Obama have the Planned Parenthood, ACLU, NAACP, ACORN, URBAN LEAGUE, GLAD, ARRYAN NATION, LULAC, LA RAZA, BLACK PANTHERS, CIVIL SERVANT UNIONS and multiple religious entities all ready to attack upon his beckon call. There is no one with enough protection from the thugs of Obamanation.

my two cents
We will come out of this despite the worst effort of the pinheads in washington. America is a GREAT country not because of the pinheads who laughingly call themselves our leaders, but because of the people. The danger is clear, the lines are drawn and we the people will take care of this ourselves. WE will find the solutions to these problems because we HAVE to. Nothing that silly little imp in washington proposes is worth being taken seriously, none of the people he has surrounding him are worthy of our respect.

We saved Europe 4 times in the last century - when we entered WWI, when we entered WWII, the Marshall Plan in 1947 and the nuclear shield we put up between Europe and the USSR for 40 years. The fact that we could do those things and STILL be a great country - the most powerful in the world - amazed the europeans, and then it made them HATE us, which is entirely understandable. Everyone who gives a s+++ about the european's opinion of the USA raise your hands.

Abroad we live in perilous times, at home we live in mediocre times - look at our "leadership".

In our country's history we have ALWAYS risen to the challenge, and this time will be no different.

Lead, follow or get out of the way.

Looking Forward to the Future
What a sad day it was yesterday for our once great nation when the world saw beggars and slaves begging our new secular potentate, our Messiah, for food, clothing and shelter.

What a sorry commentary on a country founded on rugged individualism.

"Please, Your Grace, grant me a kitcen. I need help".

"Oh, praise the lord. Thank you for your presence, Your Grace. I work at MacDonalds. Can I have some benefits."

"Oh Lord, can you grant me the differential between my past salary and my current unemployment."

So this is the new majority? This is what we've become? Standing on street corners waiting for some warlord for day jobs and free food?

I'm proud then to be in a minority of citizens who are on the other side. I wouldn't care if I was the last man in America who didn't worship at His feet.

How pathetic that most Americans have surrendered their magnificence and accepted the yoke of slavery.

I can't wait until they're out in the streets, burning and looting their own neighborhoods when this foolery collapses the economy. Serves them right.

The only thing we have to fear is...
not fearing the government.

This generation of Peasant-Americans looking for handouts (like at Obama's recent town hall event) will never fear the government. They're too welfare dependent.

Real Americans who believe in generational wealth, freedom, and "fixing things ourselves" will fear the government and stand up against it.



avoid JD's Handsome Son

I see you are posting again, fascist. On another post, this genocidal creep advocating gassing and cremating all liberals.

I suggest he be avoided like the plague.

Living in Detroit
Don Juan claims to live in Detroit, is he bragging or complaining?

But now I completely understand why Detroit is in such dismal condition. Since birds of a feather flock together, it's clear there are tens of thousands of Don Juans in Detroit, and that is an overwhelming burden on any government structure.

The Obvious
In a collective sense, we have been a nation of spoiled prodigals for far too long. We WILL have to accept suffering a period of hardship and frugality as a consequence, OR, we will continue to be indebted, for generations, to totalitarian foreign lenders, and, in return for handouts from our own tax money, we will be destined to become a nation of whining and simpering slaves to an autocratic nanny-state domestic "government" . . . which then uses an endless series of manufactured "crises" and "emergencies" to justify the erosion of individual entrepreneurial freedom and democratic liberties; the imposition of MANDATORY "voluntary" labor "for the public good"; increasingly Draconian taxes forced upon the most productive of the entrepreneurial and professional technical classes . . . and, the passing of more "anti-hostile speech" laws and "anti-slander" laws against those spreading "hate" and "bigotry" against the "humane" economic policies of the collectivist/socialist nanny-state.
Anyone who believes that the same federal bureaucracy of BOTH major parties . . . which created economic havoc through fiscal and monetary foolishness, as well as corrupt "favor-swapping" with lobbyists . . . is NOW going to be the "solution" to the problem by passing a largely pork-barrel "stimulus" bill, is living in a fool's paradise.

We've Been Subverted
Yuri Bezmenov, in a 1985 interview, gave the steps by which a society is subverted.

McCandlish Phillips, in 1970, wrote the following. "The first step in the satanic takeover of a nation is to draw the people away from faith in God and in His Word. The next stage is to increase them steadily in the indulgence of sin. The third stage is to lead them into false worship and false supernaturalism. The final stage is usually to bring them under dictatorship. We are in the third stage now."

Ann Coulter in "Godless" page 152 wrote: It’s very important for the Democrats to control the public schools. John Dewey, the founder of public education in America, said, “You can’t make Socialists out of individualists – children who know how to think for themselves spoil the harmony of the collective society which is coming, where everyone is interdependent.” You also can’t make socialists out of people who can read, which is probably why Democrats think the public schools have nearly achieved Aristotelian perfection. For Lenin it was “Give me you four-year-olds, and in a generation I will build a Socialist state.” For Hitler it was “Let me control the textbooks and I will control the state.” For the Democrats it’s “Let us control the schools and in a generation no one will be able to read.”

We know our schools and culture have been subverted. But, even the Christian Church has been subverted. We, as Christians have allowed Dispensational teaching and charts about the last days, and the desire for our own comfort to render us powerless to act as salt and light in this society. I don't know how many times I've heard. "It has to get worse" because of last days prophecy teaching.

God's prescription for the reversal of this subversion, for the healing of our nation, is given in 2 Chronicles 7:14. It's addressed to His people, who are called by His name.

For Dr. Douglas

You are making a typical pseudo intellectual, pop culture mistake when you allege JD is a “genocidal fascist”.

1. Genocide would properly be used to refer to the extermination of a distinct ethnic or national group. While J.D.’s prior observation on the utility of liberals would simply be viewed as community improvement or a proactive eugenics program at worst.

2. Fascism, a term coined by Benito Mussolini, the father of fascism, was described as a partnership between the state and large corporate interests, clearly making it interchangeable today with the label of Democrat.

Feel free to continue posting here because Conservatives unlike the Democratic Party do not fear opposing ideas. However, it would be greatly appreciated if you were less emotional and more historically accurate.

saturation point
TERRY in GA re weak people

I think you hit the nail on the head...

add
and if we don't allow more people to come into the country to do the manual labor (that's why I believe the push for amnesty for illegals), and have them to sell houses & other goods to,
there's no way to maintain commerce...

that's while we pave over more land and pollute the very air & water we depend on

Great article!!!
I understand why the rich support socialism. It is because they think they are immune do to their ability to bribe of flee.

I understand why the poor support socialism. They have failed to take advantage of their opportunities and thus have not moved up to the middle class. They are already economic slaves to the government and democratic party.

I fail to understand the middle class socialist. This is a delusional class of people, usually college educated, who somehow believe that socialist programs are not intended for them. They have been persuaded that the freedoms they are losing are meaningless.

This group comprises Lenin's useful idiots.

They cheer when dissenting voices are silenced, never considering that their speech will eventually be impinged as well. The mob mentality is now in vogue. So stand up and cheer lefies, while you still can, reality will eventually overtake you.


Peasants by Choice
"The American Republic will endure until the day Congress disovers it can bribe the public, with the public's money." Alexis de Torqueville

"A government that can provide you everything can also take it away." Thomas Jefferson

Actually, I'm surprised that more liberals haven't been hysterically attacking Ms Hollis! (but, the day IS young!) TYVM, Ms Hollis, on your very perceptive article! As Ronald Reagan once said, "Government isn't the solution, it's the PROBLEM!" & "The 9 most feared words in the English language are "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
Let the markets work their own problems out! If a company is too stupid to survive, financially, a better company will replace whatever product or service it provides! We certainly don't need to adopt a historically consistant failed form of government! (Socialism/Communism)

reagan
he also said that he was against decriminalizing marijuana because studies said it causes brain damage. the same day he said he was against mandatory helmut laws for motorcyclists because it curtailed "freedom".

TERRY of ME @ 9:34 PM #33
I appeciate your comments because I also still believe in the pioneer spirit and true grit in Americans that made this country strong.
Today I feel more concerned for the greatness of this country than I ever have, but reflecting on our ancestors who reached the American shores with the knowledge that they could achieve the opportunities with their ability to work hard and be creative. They did not arrive here expecting it to be easy or that they would be taken care of.

Leaving behind the yoke of Europe and having a free enterprise economy our ancestors were the most creative in the world. Without the free enterprise system in the 1800's when would the railroads have reached the West, would the Catastagoa & Studebaker Wagons been built to carry thousands of immigrants across the unknown plains of America, would the steamships been built to bring goods through our great lakes, would Henry Ford have developed the assembly line to mass produce automobiles, would Marconi and Edison continued to experiment with the telegraph and light bulb, would there have been a Kitty Hawk? I could go on and on, but the point is these were developments in this country, not other countries, because of the freedom to reach higher to achieve a desire or a dream.

The yoke of government will be growing on Americans now, but I know the resilence of the American spirit. I believe it is still alive and well, connected in faith, family values, and our love of this country.

Many of our ancestors left Europe for a better life, why should we desire to emulate them now?

A quote by Thomas Jefferson in a letter to James Madison in 1803, "I am for a government rigorously frugal and simple - "





Reply to JD's Handsome Son....

"Oh, praise the lord. Thank you for your presence, Your Grace. I work at MacDonalds. Can I have some benefits."


lmao.....you crack me up......lol......


Reply to Ms. Hollis....

You see it possibly on the horizon as well don't you?.....You're incredible.....Your insight, deductive reasoning, and critical analysis skills goes beyond the norm of most women.



"Much of the American public does not understand this, and they believe Congress when they're told "everything will be okay." But that is simply not true. And what do you think will happen when there is no more Social Security? No more Aid to Families with Dependent Children? No more Medicaid? No more Medicare?

It will be war in the streets. And poverty. And hunger. And illness. And death."






Great social ideas..
To some extent, the liberals have some great social ideas. Health insurance for everybody regardless of social status or wealth sounds reasonable to me. What I detest most though, is they want to do this through the government instead of doing the hard word of setting up a non-profit foundation funded by charitable donations. Universal health coverage is not a right declared in the constitution of the U.S.A. nor is it an explicit responsibility of the government. Liberals have a hard time separating government functions from charitable activities. Liberals expect the most from government but their charitable giving is the least, just ask VP Biden.

Akagi on Feb 11 at 1:22 pm...
"What is different now? FDR did the same as Obama and even Ford. Reliance on the government has been going on for a long time--from Lincoln, to FDR, to LBJ to Bush and now Obama--the names and paty may change but the progression of more and more government control doesn't."

Algore used the notion of a hockey stick to raise the anxiety of those with global warming angst. Perhaps if you plotted federal spending and involvement in our lives, you might notice a hockey stick like inflection. Maybe the upturn occurred during the Bush administration. It doesn't matter. The point is that we are seeing an exponential increase in federal spending that appears likely to be unabated for at least 2 years. Is that not of concern? Is it more important to bash Bush than recognize the trend and deal with that?

Meet Dr. No
There is nothing "universal" about Universal Healthcare.

Too old? Meet Dr. No

Recovered alcoholic needing a new liver? Meet Dr. No

Once smoked, but now found and needing a lung transplant? Meet Dr. No

Need a hip transplant, but are 10 pounds overweight? Meet Dr. No

Have a child with a 10% chance of survival? Meet Dr. No

Need medical treatment, because that Schip-covered illegal child needs cough syrup? Meet Dr. No

Need a proven, but expensive, medical treatment? Meet Dr. No, who uses a CBA (cost benefit analysis) to determine whether you should get it.

I could go on, but consider these: A British woman had to give birth on the floor because the hospital had already rationed all of the beds AND my French relatives, who pay 70% in taxes (which includes payment for socialized medicine), used to choose the US for medical care, are now thinking about Switzerland.

Lastly, when has the Government done anything correctly or cheaply?

Lesson for the day: Go look for that Social Security-Medicaid-Medicare lockbox, which both parties have looted since the begining of time. Get back to me when you find it.

DFayette...
We also now learn that liberals believe paying more taxes is patriotic (thanks again Mr Biden), but that it is apparently even better to cheat.

The combination of ...
a super powerful Federal government, a financial system based on the debt model and mass production by automation has brought to the fore ground the fundamental problem of living on a wage. A wage of common workers, paid by profit making companies, will never make a person wealthy. The wage may entitle you to buy a few things beyond those items needed for life but wages will never allow you to satisfy all your human desires. This dissatisfaction caused by wages in a materialistic society has set the stage for the growing dissatisfaction which Socialists have exploited. Unfortunately, Socialism lived is far less fulfilling than Socialism promised.

The only answer to our problems is to change our financial system to Social Credit, which is not Socialism or Communism. The choice to go to Social Credit is actually made easier by our lurch towards Socialism. But it will take leaders with courage to sponsor the implementation of Social Credit. Do we have any courageous leaders left?

Bravissimo!!!
Laura Hollis for president!

The Democrats broke faith with the founders back in Wilsons's and FDR's administrations, and have been hard at it ever since.

By keeping the electorate ignorant through a state school system, and propagandized through a compliant press and Hollywood, liberal/socialists have managed to persuade a slim majority of Americans to embrace a statist ideology that is antithetical to liberty, the founding principle of this nation.

They are dismantling our nation. They are traitors! You can't support socialism without opposing liberty. They are like matter and antimatter. Liberty, being the founding principle of the only nation in history to be founded on a principle of any description, is synonymous with America. If you oppose liberty, you oppose America. To find our congress and White House infested with just such treasonous people is maddening!

There is not one single feature of the "Steal-from-us" bill (I love that!) that finds authority in our Constitution.

America has long been the engine of prosperity for the entire world. Socialism has only survived elsewhere due to America's productivity. This administration will kill the goose that lays the golden egg. That will herald an end to prosperity the world over.

Margaret Thatcher's observation, "The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money" will be played out on a global scale within the next 2 or 3 years, thanks largely to this bill and the catastrophically erroneous and idiotic assumptions that produced it.

"It's freedom, stupid!"
Here's a theme for the Republicans to use: "it's freedom, stupid!" The tough part is that they have to really understand and believe it, and act as a proper opposition.

For Don Juan

Michigan! What happened? I have gone to Shanty Creek every summer for the last 20 years and the area just gets more downscale. House prices lower, people more discouraged, and any small business owner will curse state government with venom that can be only matched by a NAGs view of Jorge Bush. This state has been a fiefdom of the Democratic Party since “old Frank”, shouldn’t it be truly a socialist workers paradise? Also, what’s going on with this California bankruptcy thing, the highest tax burden in the country and they still can’t fully minister to the need of every illegal immigrant?

Thanks
Ms. Hollis,
thanks for the insights in your great article.

Don Juan
So the legislature and governor have been dems from 1991. Aren't they responsible for the lack of progress in that state for the past 18 years?

For Don Juan

Wow, you got me there. I forgot what a fire breathing right wing ideologue George “Brainwashed” Romney was. Also, I have to profess my ignorance of the structure of Michigan state government. I had no idea that the web of stifling anti-business regulation and taxes that have choked economic development so completely in the state had its genesis in the State Supreme Court. Just for my further edification though, why is the current state government so loathed by small business owners?

Peasants by Choice
Freedom is NOT free; it requires involved and knowledgeable voters.

Two thumbs down to the clown that makes me frown. The pretender will surely render more than a fender-bender with all this wild squander of tender. For from debt we’ll all drown while this fool with a crown fiddles away in DC town.

I’m at a point where I’m actually ashamed at the way the politicos are behaving: Feeding frenzy at taxpayers’ expense. I’ve fired off dozens of faxes and phone calls to my two senators and representative on the mindless spending, bailouts, the war, and illegal immigration but it seems it all falls on deaf ears or too many voters are not raising hell; too many are in the mode of deer staring at the headlights bearing down on them and only microseconds left to avert disaster. Uninvolved citizens equal loss of freedom and sure enslavement.

For Don Juan
Jimmy Carter was so great and Ronald Reagan was such a disaster for the markets.

Laura Hollis is right again

Americans have gotten so spoiled, they can't even endure several months of a bad economy. Instead of waiting it out for free, letting the market and business cycle take care of the matter, our politicians are throwing $800 billion at it, both preceded and succeeded by hundreds of billions more. Our politicians, as outlined by Ms. Hollis, are only too glad to run around like Chicken Little and play into these fears.

Thanks Ms. Hollis
Surely Mr. Lenin must be very pleased to see the wolves running our hen house in America. I want to puke when its suggested that Govt. (only) can fix this or that. What a brainwashed bunch of idiots we have become and that includes our current President.

I wonder if we could find a way to send these clowns to Cuba? (they would be right at home)

Who is spoiled.
Steve writes:
"Americans have gotten so spoiled, they can't even endure several months of a bad economy. Instead of waiting it out for free, letting the market and business cycle take care of the matter, our politicians are throwing $800 billion at it, both preceded and succeeded by hundreds of billions more. Our politicians, as outlined by Ms. Hollis, are only too glad to run around like Chicken Little and play into these fears."




It is not us (I.E. Americans) it is the MSM and our Representatives. We were against the first bailout under Bush. We are against the current one.

The Spoiled ones are all those "Representatives" that get re elected time and time again no matter what they say or do.

Our fault as a group is voting them back every time. Thus they become spoiled.
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