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Thursday, October 12, 2006
Larry Elder :: Townhall.com Columnist
Are Democrats winning the battle on ethics and the economy?
by Larry Elder
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Can the Bush administration get just a little bit of credit?

The unemployment rate just dropped from 4.7 percent to 4.6 percent. The Washington Post, not exactly a Bush administration cheerleader, recently wrote "that just about every worker with the skills and desire to work can find a job." Yet the same article cited its own poll that shows only 39 percent of Americans approve of Bush's handling of the economy, with 59 percent disapproving.

The tax cuts, as tax-cutting former President John F. Kennedy predicted, sparked the economy. Kennedy once said that it may sound "paradoxical," but in order to increase tax revenues, we must decrease tax rates. Under Bush, "tax collections have increased by $521 billion in the last two fiscal years," reports The Wall Street Journal, "the largest two-year revenue increase -- even after adjusting for inflation -- in American history." Even with the irresponsible spending, this puts the deficit at 2 percent of GDP, well below the recent 40-year average of 2.7 percent. Inflation and interest rates remain low. And labor analysts just revised upward the figures on job creation, adding an additional 810,000 jobs!

But what about giving Bush credit?

Nonsense, the Los Angeles Times now editorializes, credit our Energizer-bunny economy. You know, it just goes, and goes, and goes, irrespective of the president behind the wheel. After calling unemployment and inflation "reassuringly low"; after noting that "growth is steady"; after calling the recent record Dow Jones averages a "tribute to the resilience of the U.S. economy"; and after pointing out that "hourly wages in September were up 4 percent from a year earlier" -- the Times editorial gave the Bush administration no credit.

But, take a look at quotes from past editorials from the Los Angeles Times:

July 17, 2003: The White House's deficit of 2003, as well the one projected for the next year, "isn't as bad is it seems. It's worse."

Sept. 20, 2003: As Bush's unfulfilled spending promises continue, "Bush risks not just his personal credibility but the nation's security, economic future and natural resources."

Oct. 6, 2003: "The administration's tax cuts are the economic equivalent of steroids; they may quickly pump up economy, but the long-term effect on fiscal health will be dire."

Jan. 29, 2004: "The unreal quality of the Bush administration's economic program reached new heights last week."

June 2, 2004: " . . . President Bush risks fiscal meltdown by addressing the federal budget deficit as if there's no day after tomorrow," and criticized Bush policies "that would further inflate the deficit . . . "

Now let's talk ethics. A recent poll, in the wake of the Rep. Mark Foley, R-Fla., scandal, gives Democrats higher marks for "ethics" than Republicans.

Consider the last 30 years, when the House instituted post-Watergate ethics guidelines. The tally, as of late 2004, over the same period, comes to 70 House members who faced investigations for ethical misconduct: 55 Democrats and 15 Republicans.

Recall how Democrats defended former President Clinton against accusation after accusation. The president's defenders dismissed allegations by former Arkansas state staffer Paula Jones, who accused then-Gov. Bill Clinton of sexual misconduct. Clinton defender-in-chief James Carville said, "If you drag a hundred dollar bill through a trailer park, you never know what you'll find." But after pleading guilty to lying under oath, and becoming the first sitting president to be found in contempt of court, Clinton settled Jones' "non-meritorious" civil sexual harassment case out-of-court for $850,000.

Kathleen Willey, a former Democratic contributor, claimed on "60 Minutes" that the former president took her hand and placed it on his genitalia. Incredibly, feminist Gloria Steinem wrote that it was not sexual harassment because when Willey asked him to stop, he did. Call this the "one grope rule."

Juanita Broaddrick, a volunteer for Arkansas Attorney General Bill Clinton's gubernatorial campaign, accused him of rape. Yet Clinton defenders simply dismissed her as a liar, just as they dismissed, minimized or attacked others claiming to have had affairs with the married Clinton. Mistresses include Arkansas "saloon singer" Gennifer Flowers. Clinton initially denied having an affair with her, but later admitted, under oath, to one sexual encounter. The president, of course, famously wagged his finger and denied intern Monica Lewinsky's claim of a sexual relationship. Meanwhile, Clinton defenders played hear-no-evil, see-no-evil, speak-no-evil.

In the case of former Republican Congressman Foley, he promptly resigned after the revelation of sexually explicit e-mails to a former page. Despicable? Yes. Rape? No. In any case, the Republican Party dumped him faster than you can say "Ken Starr."

An old trial lawyer once told me, "Juries don't decide cases based solely on fact, evidence and law. They reach their verdicts based on 'impressions'." In the battle for "impressions" over the economy and ethics, Democrats -- with the complicity of the liberal mainscream media -- think they're winning. Let's wait until the jury returns with its verdict.

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In answer to the title question: Yes
By force of bedlam over reasoned discourse.

Poor Bill
(sarcasm)You have to realise: the Democrats are here to help us, and should be excused their little weaknesses. The evil Republicans are only interested in themselves(/sarcasm)

Mainer
The sad fact is that you had to label your sarcasm. The great depression was such a miserable time it colors politics to this day. The black eye the R's got is still around, as 3rd generations still vote D, because "they are here to help and should be excused their little weaknesses". Its been a long slow pull, but time seems to be on the side of responsibility and positive results, namely Republican. It is certainly wearisome to see so many of them in DC act so poorly, but the alternatives are worse.

Voters Vote; Not Polls !
Just ask "Internet Al" & Swift Boat "Johnny" !
As for The Economy; Check Vote Tallies and Attendance at Contacting Congress .com

Security Moms should Research recent History Before handing the Hen House keys back to the ""DoomoCrats"

10 reasons Why Hasert Slould Not Resign!

Wednesday, October 04, 2006Top 10 Democrat Sex Scandals in Congress Information compiled from the Washington Post, Congressional Sex Scandals in History

10. Sen. Daniel Inouye. The 82-year-old Hawaii Democrat was accused in the 1990s by numerous women of sexual harassment. Democrats cast doubt on the allegations and the Senate Ethics Committee dropped its investigation.

9. Former Rep. Gus Savage. The Illinois Democrat was accused of fondling a Peace Corps volunteer in 1989 while on a trip to Africa. The House Ethics Committee decided against disciplinary action in 1990.

8. Rep. Barney Frank. The outspoken Massachusetts Democrat hired a male prostitute who ran a prostitution service from Frank’s residence in the 1980s. Only two Democrats in the House of Representatives voted to censure him in 1990.

7. Former Sen. Brock Adams. The late Washington Democrat was forced to stop campaigning after numerous accusations of drugging, assault and rape, the first surfacing in 1988.

6. Former Rep. Fred Richmond. This New York Democrat was arrested in 1978 for soliciting sex from a 16-year-old. He remained in Congress and won re-election-before eventually resigning in 1982 after pleading guilty to tax evasion and drug possession.

5. Former Rep. John Young. The late Texas Democrat increased the salary of a staffer after she gave in to his sexual advances. The congressman won re-election in 1976 but lost two years later.

4. Former Rep. Wayne Hays. The late Ohio Democrat hired an unqualified secretary reportedly for sexual acts. Although he resigned from Congress, the Democratic House leadership stalled in removing him from the Administration Committee in 1976.

3. Former Rep. Gerry Studds. He was censured for sexual relationship with underage male page in 1983. Massachusetts voters returned him to office for six more terms.

2. Former Rep. Mel Reynolds. The Illinois Democrat was convicted of 12 counts of sexual assault with a 16-year-old. President Bill Clinton pardoned him before leaving office.

1. Sen. Teddy Kennedy. The liberal Massachusetts senator testified in defense of nephew accused of rape, invoking his family history to win over the jury in 1991.



our problem
Our problem as a nation is that we have become so divided along party lines that issues are no longer thoughtfully considered by either side. No one is winning the arguements because no one is seriously considering them. What counts most in the current atmosphere is the latest dirty trick. I am so discouraged.

Wrong White House Press Secretary
The whole Republican PR debacle is because Tony Snow, though a stand-up guy whom I respect and admire, is to genteel to respond to the leftmedia with the necessary vigor. My nomination: Ann Coulter, who would certainly get the message out. What a sight that would be!

NEVER GOING TO COME
The day that the Democrats win any battle based on their ethics. How could they? The majority of American people still are against same sex marriage, liberal Judges and the ACLU, all of the above are part of the sick make up of the Democratic party. But with that said, their is no excuse for the conduct of the current so called Republicans in Washington and they will have earned having their heads handed to them come election day if their supporters fail to show up.

Quote from the first paragraph of Larry's column
"The unemployment rate just dropped from 4.7 percent to 4.6 percent. The Washington Post, not exactly a Bush administration cheerleader, recently wrote "that just about every worker with the skills and desire to work can find a job." One would think so, but come visit Michigan, where the current Michigan Governor, Jennifer Granholm has literally run this great state right in to a ditch. But thanks to her backing government hand outs to her Democratic constituents, and partially to a poorly run campaign by her opponent Dick Devos, Granholm has a very good chance of being re-elected and continuing on with her policies that have led to many businesses leaving Michigan, which in turn have caused Michigan to be currently experiencing a unemployment and mortgage foreclosure rate that is at all time highs, and has literally shut down the Real Estate market and caused home values to plummet.

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BUSH IN THE GARDEN OF GOOD AND EVIL…
George Bush is the first American President expressing Christian certitude. God even speaks to George, and as he relates God told him to go to war with Iraq. If true, presumably God would have also told him how to win the war without all the mistakes, suffering and death.

The world has seen Christian certitude before and it’s not a pretty picture: papal infallibility when the Pope had armies, the Inquisition (intolerance at home) and the Crusades (intolerance abroad). When the Crusaders captured Jerusalem in 1099, they slaughtered all its inhabitants. When the Arab leader Saladin recaptured the city, he spared all the Christian inhabitants. So the Middle East is already primed for another war with Christian invaders; and accordingly and as the latest NIE confirms, the war in Iraq has increased the number of jihadists and terrorists worldwide and made America less safe.

Our brave, innocent young men and women in Iraq and Afghanistan are fighting for a better world, but a leader ignorant of history and cultures can easily cause the opposite. The stupidity of World War I and of Wilson, Lloyd George and Clemenceau caused terrible consequences for another 70 years after the end of that war. Afghanistan is the right war, certainly a just war and the whole world agreed and was on our side, and if we would have concentrated our efforts there we probably would have wiped out Bin Laden and those responsible for 9-11 by now. Iraq is the wrong war even if hopefully we win it, and Iran will be another, but larger wrong war.

The leader of Iran comes off as a whacko, however, the Iranians and the rest of the world view George Bush in the same way, so there is a common starting point. Real diplomacy involves talking with your adversary one-on-one without preconditions, and Russia and China have forced Bush to make a positive step in that direction. And there’s a lot to discuss with Iran: the CIA in the 1950s, the Shah, the 1979 hostage crisis, sponsorship of terror, Israel and justice in the Middle East. But if past is prelude, then Bush’s diplomacy with Iran will be perfunctory and manipulated (as it was with Iraq), and likely God has already spoken to our President and told him to go to war after the November 2006 elections (as he did with Iraq in 2002-2003). When Bush finally increases the level of hatred against the United States to where it engulfs Pakistan, then we face nuclear terror, and Biblical Armageddon becomes real, a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Back at home, Christian certitude is present in Bush’s politics of division and hate. Nonbelievers of Bush’s Christian values and policies are viewed with contempt, instead of as fellow citizens in a pluralistic democracy. Civility has gone out of our civilization, and this type of Christian Right hate is now completely out of the closet with Ann Coulter’s latest book, which has been repudiated by few if any on the right who claim to practice the Christian message of love. The Foley-Hastert scandal further shows the actual evil of their "perfect" practice of Christian good.

“Good and evil” is a concept common in religion, morality and ethics. Obviously the whole world needs more good and less evil. But is there a practical definition that everyone can agree on and that lends itself to objective measurement. How about: GOOD is something that makes the many human lives better and no or few lives worse, while EVIL is something that makes many lives worse, and no or few lives better. Some obvious good in this world: Habitat for Humanity, St Jude’s Children Hospital, etc. Evil under this definition would include a considerable number of Hollywood movies, a lot of poison on TV and violent video games.

Measuring George Bush’s actions by this definition with objective facts, our good Christian President does mostly evil: from Iraq to Katrina mismanagement and incompetence to “no child left behind” (children in extreme poverty up 20% since Bush took office) to the $3 trillion dollar tax giveaway to the rich. Particulars on the last item: supply-side (trickle-down) economics is a bogus theory promoted by those who benefit from it. In a mature capitalist system, supply side never rules, it’s always the demand side of the equation that governs growth and well-being. Think about the 1930s Depression, General Motors had plenty of supply, but demand evaporated.

Previous U.S. recessions have been cured with only $200 billion in tax cuts targeted to the middle class, because the consumer (the great middle class) spends that tax cut and primes the economic pump. But George Bush has raised the debt that your children and grandchildren will have to pay from almost $6 trillion to almost $9 trillion for this current recovery, which is uniquely without wage gains, and which has shrunk the middle class that makes America strong and great. Corporations (the supply side) are now loaded with cash, but there’s no place to spend it because they don’t see any demand. So many corporations are using that cash to buy back their stock -- WOW, isn’t supply side wonderful in how it fulfills America’s needs? As the rich-poor divide increases, we’re headed toward previous shining examples of trickle-down economics: South America of the recent past and feudalism in the Middle Ages (South America and feudalism also had no wage gains). This is such good evil by our Christian President and his myriad of engorged friends.

I see a dark future for the country we all love. Even our Constitution is at risk when a President says he speaks directly to God (witness how God/Allah influences and corrupts Islamic attempts at democracy). The Constitution guarantees freedom to all, and freedom for all from tyranny. Our precious Constitution binds us together as a nation, and allegiance to it is the definition of patriotism.


JohnC
Please keep your posts new, short, and to the topic. The garden of good and evil has made whatever point you are trying to make long ago. This sort of stuff belongs on your own blog, like Brianr or celtic-dragon or Flagwaver have done.

Economy
We are supposed to applaud the economy? Inflation adjusted the Dow must get to well over 13,000 to set a new record. Few of the Dow components are doing well with Intel down over 70% from its high. The bond market is clearly saying it does not buy the arguement that the economy is doing great. Neither does the public. The trade deficit is at 7%+ of GDP and we are borrowing our way to prosperity,from China no less. It is a house of cards and Bush will indeed get recognized for his contribution.

Corruption
Yup, everywhere. Quibbling over who is worse is really silly. The bottom line of the corruption thing is who is better at hiding it not who is doing it.


Why No Respect?
Maybe Republicans could get some credit if they would (pick as many as you want):

- Explain why a single wage-earner with a full-time job making close to the median wage
used to be able to support a family, but can't now;

- Stop acting like Democrats with the bags of contributor and taxpayer cash;

- Explain why it's OK for access to health insurance coverage to bankrupt employers,
employees, or both;

- Stop with this idea that Republican sex perverts are not as bad as Democrat sex
perverts--I mean, really, how soon do you figure we'll have to listen to Speaker Hastert's
definition of the word "is"?

- Address the perception issue that many Americans, even when confronted with facts and
statistics, don't feel prosperous or financially secure? Even if it isn't the truth,
perception in politics is reality.

- Get out of this post-modernistic moral relativist cesspool of comparing everything to
the Clintons. We know, we remember, we were there. That's not the point. I'd hope
Republicans aren't as amoral or immoral as the Clinton's. We were hoping for a more
noticeable improvement, however.

- Stop acting shocked at not getting fair treatment in the "mainstream" media. That's
like being shocked that pro wrestling is fixed. The companies that run
the media only react to advertising dollars, and bashing success or covering naughty celebrities
always panders to lazy people whom advertisers want to reach. That's how that business works.
Murdoch, Disney, General Electric and so on who run the "mainstream media" are no leftys.

- Quit acting like liberal victimhood junkies. Now that Republicans control all three
federal branches, and a majority of statehouses, the whole victimhood sympathy play is
ringing kinda hollow.

The real issues facing America go beyond two-party mud wrestling. Blaming Clinton, while
fun and easy, doesn't fix anything. I think starting a frank dialogue with Americans on
these issues (and feel free to add your own) would put the Republicans on the way to getting
a little credit. Not a chance Dems could touch any of these issues, either.

For now I'm too nervous to vote 3rd party,but I'm getting sick of having my vote taken for
granted and being spoon-fed made-for-media non-issues while the real challenges facing America
sit molding.

Matt
"Explain why a single wage-earner with a full-time job making close to the median wage
used to be able to support a family, but can't now"
It depends where you live, which means this is false on its face for most cities in America.
(I lived in a house on median income in Atlanta suburb with my wife so I know its possible) Rolling back taxes on business would drive down prices, but that makes too much sense.

"Stop with this idea that Republican sex perverts are not as bad as Democrat sex"

Who said this? What was pointed out by some is the *response* to some sex scandal by those AROUND the perpetrator. Studds gets a standing O and Foley resigns in disgrace. See the difference?

"Quit acting like liberal victimhood junkies."
Yeah we should just take the MSM spin right? Bush Lied, people died? Bush BANS stem cell research? Roe vs Wade legalized abortion? These are all lies and no we shouldn't just accept it.

"Stop acting like Democrats with the bags of contributor and taxpayer cash;"
You mean stop acting like _politicians_. The answer is to get government out most of the things they meddle in. Why pay off a politician if he can't help you cheat in some way? Conservatism is the answer.

There is no battle
There is no battle on ethics and morality. There is a lot of pontificating and fingerpointing for the purpose of political gain but nothing has been done to address the deep seated propensity for immorailty and unethical behavior embedded deeply within our society. Another Enron can and will happen because though some of the perpetrators have been put in prison, the reasons that caused Enron have not been addressed. Our society admires the rich, the powerful and the greedy and does not particularly care how they achieved their power and wealth. That is why cheating is still accepted as a way to succeed on our campuses. The CEO of a company does not get his big bucks for being moral but for succeeding at any cost. And if you do get caught dipping into the till or gratifying your lust in the wrong place with the wrong person just put yourself into rehab and say, "the devil made me do it."

David M.:
Thank you for your thoughtful response. I'm not pretending to have any special knowledge, but I'm pointing out attacks I don't think Republicans have handled well, which keeps them from getting credit for achievements.

- I've supported my wife and kids on a single-paycheck median income, but I didn't do it for long (on the way up, thank the Lord!), I have to admit I got a few lucky breaks along the way, and I think it's gotten harder over the past few years, just from talking to people clawing their way up. You and I and whomever else works hard enough at it may be able to support a family on a single wage in today's economy, but a lot of people don't believe they can, and conservatives need to address this. Whenever the issue comes up, Dems beat them over the head with it. Again, it's politics not reality. "Not easy" does not mean "impossible", but this is a basic conservative message and the point isn't sticking in lots of people's minds. It's public discourse due diligence, and maybe an uphill battle in an instant gratification society, but it's a core message.

- I sure do see the difference between Foley resigning and Studds sticking around forever. But Snow's comments about "naughty e-mails", and, indeed, comparisons to Studds in the first place, are relativistic. Was Foley's behavior disgusting on its own, or not? If all these Reps and their staffers really did know about it a long time ago, why didn't it get dealt with then, before the Dems had any chance to re-take the House? Not a door wisely left open. Especially if character matters, and character is what you do when nobody's looking.

- There's a big difference between "taking the MSM spin" and claiming that conservative ideas can't get heard. Neither is acceptable. Maybe it's just a matter of tone. With the rise to power of the GOP, I get embarrassed when I hear that tinge of self-pity. It drives me crazy to read conservative columns in my local (extremely liberal and biased) newspaper, complaining that they can't get heard. Kind of an ironic waste of column inches.

- OK, you got me on "stop acting like _politicians_. I got nothin'.

Thanks again!

To r0_d2 -- Reid Land Deal
> Another FALSE GOP STORY...
> Reid has a 100% LEGAL and DOCUMENTED L.L.C., that
> the Senate has been aware of over those years,
> nothing illegal......PURE SPIN!
> Try some facts.

Here some facts -- what is claimed is that it may violate Senate ethic rules. Judicial Watch reports: "Reid violated Senate rules by failing to disclose the sale in his annual report and lying about his stake in his friend’s newly created company...Senate ethics rules are clear in stating that members must disclose all investments, for profit or loss, on their annual reports. They must also report all financial stakes in companies, which Reid clearly didn’t do."

What is the problem? The problem is that Reid sold the land to a corporation owned by a friend, which Reid also had ownership in. But Reid violated Senate rules by failing to disclose the sale in his annual report and did not report his stake in his friend’s newly created company. Senate ethics rules are clear -- members must disclose ALL investments, for profit or loss, on their annual reports, including all financial stakes in companies.

Why didn't he report it? Possibly because his friend is "mob-connected" and has been repeatedly investigated by the Feds.

The economy is a rockin'
Sorry dems. There is plenty to criticize Bush about, but the economy isn't one of them. It's laughable to hear Paul Krugman and the rest try to spin there way out of it. There are always areas that need improvement, but that has been the case during any strong economy. Although I'm one who believes the president has very limited control over the economy, after hearing all about the glory years under Clinton, and the blame given to Bush for the recession he was handed, he deserves his just due.

If we as a country can maintain over 95% employment BEFORE the baby boomers start retiring, we may be looking at a major labor shortage in a few years. Anyone who feels left out needs to get with the program.

Cowboy
Gas prices are down, and besides does this mean you are on board to start drilling in ANWR? Supply is the only thing that can reduce prices. Democrats won't help you there. Glad to see you on board.

You complain about the deficit(I think you mean the debt) yet as a senior you probably oppose privitisation of social security which will surely put us much further in the red in a few years. So you are on board to let me opt out of Socialist Security? Thanks.

Unless your fixed income is 40 grand or more, you should be in a very low tax bracket. What were you expecting? No tax at all?

PS. The last Democrat in the white house RAISED taxes on Socialist Security benefits.

Bush's economy is helping seniors. The drugs you complain about paying for don't fall out of the sky. They are paid for by people buying drugs..each pill costs 25 cents to make but the first one costs 200 million.

Can't argue with you on immigration points, but unless you have info I don't the Democrats are further off than Bush & co. They typically extend benefits than risk losing votes.

a few questions for cowboy
Mr. Frego,

You have some valid criticisms of the Bush administration, including spending and immigration. I'm sorry to hear about your current situation. I don't know enough about all the preparations you made before deciding to fully retire, but you may want to consider a few questions however before blaming your woes on President Bush. Do you understand all the factors that control energy prices? Do you understand that prices are going down, and there is supposed to be an excess supply this winter? Do you understand that health costs have been going up for decades, and have directly mirrored overweight Americans, people living longer, and advancing technology? Do you understand that neither party has fully tackled the healthcare issues, and that John Kerry's "plan" was about the same as the republican plan? Do you understand which party managed the money in the 90's, and that we weren't dealing with terrorism nor Katrina? Do you understand that the fact that you have a home, an automobile, a computer, health insurance, advanced eye surgery, and grandkids that you are more blessed than most of the world? Obviously none of this resolves your problems, but you can at least be fair about whom to blame. Good luck.

Heads Need To Roll
I do agree that Michigan, under Gov. Jennifer Granholm has been unable to participate in the great economy being experienced by most of the rest of the country. High taxes on business and individuals, excessive auto insurance rates, jobs leaving by the thousands, I could go on and on. I don't agree that Dick DeVos is running an ineffective campaign. For the first time I can remember while living in Michigan, I am actually seeing ads for the Michigan Governor's race in my area. We are serviced by Indiana TV stations and I have not seen one Granholm ad as opposed to the many, very effective ads Dick DeVos is using. The problem with Michigan is that you have to convince the over half of the population of the state that lives in the Detroit Metro area which votes mostly Democratic like robots that Granholm is not effective as a Governor. I don't understand this with opportunity after opportunity missed on bringing jobs to Michigan, which ended up in Indiana, Ford laying of 30,000 workers, GM also downsizing, etc. to see just how ineffective she has been. I think part of the problem is that it is difficult to get the union people who have voted Democratic for generations to change their minds, but I have a feeling that the debacles I have noted in this post may have the desired effect of putting a Republican back in the Governor's house in Michigan and maybe Michigan can start to participate in the latest nationwide economic boom.

Little floating pieces of BS

"The tax cuts, as tax-cutting former President John F. Kennedy predicted, sparked the economy. Kennedy once said that it may sound 'paradoxical,' but in order to increase tax revenues, we must decrease tax rates."

Right - so he reduced the top rate from 91% to 70%. This isn't even in the same realm of taxation as the top Clinton rate of 39.6%, and to compare the two without mentioning this distinction is dishonest.

Also should be mentioned is that Kennedy originally planned to spur the economy by increasing spending rather than reducing revenue.

"Under Bush, "tax collections have increased by $521 billion in the last two fiscal years," reports The Wall Street Journal, "the largest two-year revenue increase -- even after adjusting for inflation -- in American history."

Not true, and also missing a key point. From 1965-7, real receipts increased 20.15%, compared to 19.3% over the last two years. But more importantly, Elder doesn't mention that revenue in 2000 was 21.4% higher (in real terms) than it was in 2003. In fact, in real terms, revenue has just this year reached the level it was at in 2000.

So, compared to 2000, we have 14% higher real GDP, are collecting just under 1% more in revenue from it, and have moved from a budget surplus of $236 billion to a budget deficit of $247 billion, collecting $1,385,000,000,000 of additional national debt in the process.

"this puts the deficit at 2 percent of GDP, well below the recent 40-year average of 2.7 percent."

True enough - I actually have the deficit/GDP at 1.9%, and the 40-year average at 2.36%. But if you take out 12 years of Reagan-Bush (1982-1993)and Bush 2's first four years (2002-2005), the remaining 24 years average deficits of 1.35% of GDP.

Outside of the Reagan-Bush paradigm, the current year's budget deficit doesn't look so good. However, compared to every other Reagan or Bush budget, this performance is fantastic. The previous 16 Reagan-Bush years averaged deficits of 3.9% of GDP.

"Consider the last 30 years, when the House instituted post-Watergate ethics guidelines. The tally, as of late 2004, over the same period, comes to 70 House members who faced investigations for ethical misconduct: 55 Democrats and 15 Republicans."

Note the end of that sample period: late 2004. Why? Because the House Ethics Committee hasn't investigated ANY transgressions by current Congressmen. Not Tom Delay. Not Bob Ney. Not Duke Cunningham, who's already in jail. Nothing related to Jack Abramoff. Nothing related to Michael Scanlon. Nothing.

The Democrats were hardly choirboys when they were in power. The point is that the Republicans have done no better. Again, the argument seems to be "we suck less."

"In any case, the Republican Party dumped him faster than you can say 'Ken Starr.'"

By "in any case," Elder means: "Before the story broke, the Republican leadership sure as heck didn't want Foley to leave the Conress, even though they knew about his tendencies towards the underage pages. Once the public found out, however..."

See Larry spin. Spin, Larry, spin.

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Sourcing

Sorry, all numbers in previous post courtesy of the Economic Report of the President and the recently released numbers for receipts and deficit for the just-ended fiscal year. 2006 GDP estimate from 2005 budget.

Democrats winning the battle on ethics?
Watch this and answer that question:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFXQJGCVciU


If congressman Rahm can't handle softball questions from George, how's he going to handle the proposed lie detector tests in the ethics committee?

Outofpatience about Speaker Hassert
All the bad guys on your list were in the other party. They add these exploits to their resume and get re-elected. Why do you think they lobby to have felons vote?

On this side of the aisle, it ought to be obvious that we have different standards. It has been the Bush AG who has been prosecuting the thieving solons and Foley was forced to resign.

What sticks in my craw is that the majority leader either should have known and did nothing or was so out of touch with his staff that this perverter of Pages was allowed to go about his sordid business essentially ignored by leadership.

In my past life in the armed forces, a commanding officer, who is caught in such a web, steps down. My call is for the leadership to step down now because if they don't the people will make the decision for them.

Hockey Goon

Wow, you should watch the whole thing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFMRorAUYLU

Emanuel takes your guy apart.

You're really grasping if you think that the clip you linked to demonstrates that Emanuel knew of the emails. But let's just assume for a second that he did know.

If Emanuel knew, the Republican leadership certainly knew. And they chose not only to ignore the possible problem, but to appoint this guy the co-chairman of the Congressional Missing and Exploited Children's Caucus. And then to encourage him to run for re-election again this year!

So let me just restate your defense here:

"Yes, our behavior here was atrocious. But our opponents were almost as bad!"

Except, of course, it's not. Even if the Democrats have done what you wish they did, it still doesn't measure up to the malfeasance of the Republican "leadership."

Perhaps you should look that word up.

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Democrats control
I wonder if Dem's take control and after a few years gas prices are through the roof because of windfall profit taxes, bans on drilling anywhere in U.S. and of course, more Federal gasoline taxes; increased payroll taxes to fund the lower Social Security benefits that you will have to pay until you're 70 (the new retirement age); crappy health care that's all under government control; terrorist suicide bombings all over the U.S. and a nuclear Middle East; we will look back and say " Gee, I wish W. was President again.

Just a thought
The "standard of living" issue is a conumdrum. Following WWII more women were in the workforce. This injected significant amounts of discretionary income into the household. As time passed, a greater percentage of households had two incomes with the associated discretionary income.

Now, this income was spent, that's what consumers do. In the post-war years, people actually saved their money until they had enough to buy the object of their desire. (With the exception of homes.) This dual-income fueled prosperity helped the US economy and "raised the standard of living".

With the majority of households having two incomes (regardless of the amount), we have reached the saturation point. Where is the third income going to come from to fuel an even higher standard of living?

When I was a kid, we had one TV and one car. We didn't have a vacation home, iPods, DVD's, or any of the other dozens of devices that are in every home today and didn't exist 20 years ago. We have created a false "standard of living" that cannot be supported by two wage earner families.

One wage earner can maintain a high standard of living if you define "standard of living" in realistic terms. Wake up, people. It isn't Government's fault that two people have to work, it is YOUR fault. Adjust what you want in life and determine what is necessary versus what is merely wanted and maybe you too can have a high standard of living.

Excellent excellent point ctjaeger
about dual incomes & making a living today. It is totally up to the individuals and what they consider their standard of living.

Most people in America could live on one income if they had very little debt and started savings when they were young. Today's problem is that a lot of American families insist on having 2 plus cars with car payments, high student loans, many credit cards, and a mortgage that is over one-fourth of their income.

Wake up people!!! Learn to live without for a little while and build savings, then you can live a higher standard of living on one income. It is not that hard- you have to just decide to say "no" for a while.
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