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Tuesday, November 14, 2006
La Shawn Barber :: Townhall.com Columnist
Race preferences defeated in Michigan
by La Shawn Barber
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If you thought the turbulent Civil Rights Movement – culminating in the Civil Rights Act of 1964 – ended skin color discrimination, you were mistaken.

Half a century ago, America faced a moral and legal struggle to end government-mandated preferential treatment based on race. Half a century later, America faces a moral and legal struggle to end government-mandated preferential treatment based on race.

Our government still treats people differently based on the color of their skin. This time around, minorities (Asians excluded) benefit from unconstitutional race-based programs. So-called equal opportunity policies in federal, state, and local agencies across the country are nothing more than thinly veiled race preferences.

In the last 10 years, however, at least three states have done away with discriminatory programs. In 1996, Californians voted YES on Proposition 209, which amended the state constitution to bar public institutions from discriminating on the basis of race, sex, color, ethnicity, or national origin by 54 percent. In 1998, voters in Washington State passed a similar measure by 58 percent.

On November 7, 2006, 58 percent of voters in Michigan said YES to Proposal 2, which bars the state from treating its citizens differently based on race, sex, color, ethnicity, or national origin.

Groups like the hilariously named Coalition to Defend Affirmative Action, Integration and Immigrant Rights and Fight for Equality By Any Means Necessary (BAMN) tried to defeat the Michigan Civil Rights Initiative (MCRI) every step of the way.

Two years ago, BAMN and other groups challenged the legality of the petition to get MCRI on the ballot. A Michigan circuit court ruled that the petition language was misleading and should not have been approved, but a Court of Appeals panel disagreed, unanimously affirming the legality of the petition language. The case went to the Michigan Supreme Court, which declined to hear it. As a result, MCRI appeared on the ballot as Proposal 2, and the people of Michigan decided that government-backed discrimination had seen its final days.

Some were shocked, of course, including University of Michigan president Mary Sue Coleman. In a meandering post-election speech, she expressed disappointment that voters rejected the government’s use of race preferences and vowed not to allow California’s “failed experiment that has dramatically weakened the diversity of the state’s most selective universities” to “take seed here at Michigan.”

This woman, a state employee at a state institution subject to the will of the people of the state, is barking mad and ill-informed.

Regarding California’s “failed experiment,” minority enrollment and graduation rates have improved since that state banned race preferences. Eryn Hadley of the Pacific Legal Foundation found that the black graduation rate of the freshman class entering UC Berkley in fall 1998 – post-Proposition 209 – increased 6.5 percent. At UC San Diego, the average freshman GPAs for minorities “all but converged with the GPAs of white and Asian students, just one year after Proposition 209 was implemented.” See Did the Sky Really Fall?

In other words, when admission is based on academic qualifications rather than skin color, Hadley contends, black students are capable of competing with whites and Asians.

Skin-color obsessed, race-baiting, and will of the people-hating folks like Coleman couldn’t care less if black admittees are academically underqualified or unprepared to do the work. As long as minority admission rates are impressive on paper (Asians excluded) and brown faces adorn the university’s web sites and admissions brochures, liberals get to feel good about themselves.

And America’s moral and legal struggle continues…

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About The Author
Freelance writer La Shawn Barber blogs at the American Civil Rights Institute blog.
Hard to argue with facts
Good article. The whole quota program fails minorities in so many ways. This article illustrates that again. When we lower the standards for blacks in academia, they sink to them. This is not unique to blacks - just look at nearly every public school in the country. We demand nothing from students and that's exactly what we get. Humans of every race are lazy by nature. When that laziness is condoned or institutionalized, it expands. When it is challenged and when the minimum standard is raised, people of every race can attain. Telling any group of people that they are powerless and incapable without the benificent hand of some other group will have an effect after a while.

Mary Sue and U of M admissions policy
Mary Sue can vent gas all she wants; the admissions committee has trouble hearing her anyway. The Athletic Director and Football coach are well received and respected by that committee and if OSU wins this weekend they will be the Chairman and Vice Chairman ot that committee.

Michigan voted right
This is the right direction for a state where public institutions of all kinds have discrimiated in Michigan to meet "standards" to assist in diversity. Diversity is hailed as the best thing since sliced bread in the absence of any proof of what good it produces. At the University of Michigan where diversity is a primary goal aided by affirmative action, the scene on campus is very different from the ideal painted by the administration. Self-imposed segregation is everywhere, in housing, in leisure activities, restaurants and bars. What exactly has been accomplished?
And yet the president of the university says that lawsuits will be brought and public money will be used to fight proposal even though the public has spoken through their votes.

Excellent Article by Miss Barber
Helps to maintain my faith in the country and the people. All of us. Of course, a hand up is not a hand out. Equality is what we demand and need. This means just that, no preferences except for quality. My governor became president, Lyndon Johnson. Hopefully he is not sleeping peacefully in his grave. I don't doubt the good intentions, but if you can read or reason, it is rather obvious to a normal person that prefernces are just that, and generally lead to worse not better results. Thank you La Shawn Barber. You are welcome at my house.

loco
Right on the money.

The self-imposed segregation you cite at U-M is a microcosm of the rest of the country. The people of the US, both black and white, generally demand equal rights for all, but are not so eager to embrace true integration.

GUNNYG
I think you need a hug, or a drink.

La Shawn Barber
Yet another great article. I am convinced that some of the smartest people in the country are black conservatives. I have yet to meet a stupid one.

I remember
Didn’t all this trouble in Michigan start when some white kid lost his admissions slot to some black kid because of AA. That’s just terrible. He was supposed to lose his slot to a mediocre athlete or a rich kid. When will people learn that privilege belongs to the privileged?

GunnyG: Don’t hold back my man. Tell how you really feel.

Michigan has some odd characteristics
As a transplanted Michigander coming from many other states and Puerto Rico, to the land of highest unemployment (7+%) in some areas higher, it is strange to see so many liberals crying for the failed affirmative action notions of the past.

One of my good friends, who happens to have black skin over his Harvard well educated brain had the task years ago to recruit students in Chicago who were also black skinned, but only needing affirmative action to gain a future.

Many extra tutorial programs and special housing and other considerations all were added to try to get the numbers to show acceptance and performance to happen. All the programs failed to produce very many success stories while other students were denied admission with credentials far more likely to have been able to produce graduates of distinction.

Yet the program continues in the name of diversity. When will we discover that each of six billion souls on this earth are all unique? Each brings our own self to the table of diversity and we come from every walk of life, home, nation, social or economic grouping including the ones sociologists claim need special advantage via an affirmative action approach that brands all others with the same physical skin color as being in the same need.

It is time for the Supreme Court to rule for all of the states before Ward Connerly is able to fight for more votes in more states.

When the Court rules, the liberal president of the U. of M. will have to admit that is what liberals want- a Court that can make the laws! Or is it just an interpretation of the Constitution as I have always claimed as the best way to put down the liberal intelligencia and its errors?

What’s the matter with Michigan?
“In the last 10 years, however, at least three states have done away with discriminatory programs. In 1996, Californians voted YES on Proposition 209 . . . ”

It has been said that conservatives go to the polls on Tuesdays and liberals go to court on Wednesdays. I was a resident of CA and voted for Prop 209, but passing wasn’t the end of the battle. Liberals just CANNOT fathom the idea that the people can govern themselves, but need liberal intellects to tell them what’s best (right now, liberals must be asking themselves, “What’s the matter with Michigan?”). So, off to court they went to challenge 209. It survived all court challenges; however, as Ann Coulter says, liberals NEVER give up. The UC then established a “Committee On Affirmative Action And Diversity” to find ways to CIRCUMVENT the will of the people.

http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/senate/committees/ucaad/ucaad.12.10.04.minutes.pdf.

One of the more brilliant ideas coming out of this committee was defining the top ten percent of all high school graduating classes as eligible for admission.

In the U of Michigan case, there were three categories whites and Asian applicants fell in: “Admit”, “Postpone Decision”, and “Reject”. In addition to these, for favored minority applicants there was a fourth category, “Admit to Remedial Program”.

This is a FLAT ADMISSION THAT STANDARDS ARE LOWERED FOR CERTAIN RACES.

http://www.uiowa.edu/~030116/116/articles/bronner2.htm

What is perplexing is why the races absolutely HAVE to be proportionally “represented” in the FRESHMAN class to begin with. Why can’t those who lack the admission requirement scores go to community college and establish their record and then transfer to the university? That’s what community colleges are for. A top university is no place to be offering “remedial” instruction for ANYONE.

The reason none of these AA programs succeed in attracting a proportional “representation” on standards is simple: there are NOT ENOUGH qualified minorities to go around, so naturally standards must be lowered, but that process has to be disguised as something else.

Law Professor Lino Graglia has probably stated the case accurately: “Racial preferences necessarily lead to the formation of organizations on racial lines in order to fight for and defend against preferences. We now have black caucuses and Hispanic caucuses in state and national legislatures, the raison d’être of which is to fight for even more preference for their racial group. There are no white caucuses, which means that discrimination against whites is politically costless. It is not costless, however, in the hostilities engendered. The many arguments once offered for racially preferential admission to institutions of higher education — biased tests, remedy, diversity, role models, etc. — have more recently come down to a single one: ‘We can’t have’ (i.e., it is not politically feasible to have) ‘an all white institution’.”

GunnyG
I'm with you,Johnson did more damage to this Country than the Warren court ever acomplished in it's entirety.
I watched him single handedly destroy the Black family.
This Nation,most likely will never recover from the damage done by that (Moron)Well meaning my A$$!
He was buying votes on one hand,and destroying the Black family on the other'Intentionally!

I'am usually an optimistic conservative about our Nation.
But when it comes to Johnson'
If I could go back in time,you would be reading about his assaination in history books!

Vanguard States?
I'm really astonished that the three states that are leading the way on putting a timely end to once quite reasonable(imo)affirmative action policies are the citizens of California, Washington, and now Michigan; all supposed bastions of the Liberal world-view. What are we to make of that?

Keepontryon: You wrote
"It is time for the Supreme Court to rule for all of the states before Ward Connerly is able to fight for more votes in more states."

I live in Ca. and he is extremely Conservative.
He has been fighting quotas since he took his post.

romat : you wrote
"once quite reasonable(imo)affirmative action"

Their is nothing reasonable about discrimination of any kind,reverse or otherwise.
I live in Ca. we voted it out' because......
Oh Geees..I don't have to explain the flaw's in Socialists policies!

Earth to Mary Sue
If your AA admissions are so effective, why is the minority enrollment at Cooley Law School (part of Mich State, not U of M) which does not use racial preferences 15-20% higher than U of M Law School?

Follow the Money
Rev. Jackson and his ilk have converted the civil rights movement into an extermely lucrative cottage industry. Their tactics include litigation and shakedowns. As long as these hucksters are able to make the kind of living they do fleecing the rest of us, they will fight tooth and nail to keep their golden goose alive and guess who's getting goosed?

Racist
policies which injure a person based on his race perpetuate hate and a desire to get even. The Jim Crow laws were humiliating and injurious. Can anyone doubt they aroused anger and a desire to get even. AA and talk of reparations are the dying throes of that anger. As always, 2 wrongs do not make a right, and since AA injures and humiliates, those injured seek revenge. And who do they blame? All blacks, of course. As so often happens, champions of merit and character pay the price for the foolishness of others, as members of the white power structure who think they were/are hurt, stick it to minorities if they think they can get away with it. And so the sad cycle continues. Thank goodness, huge numbers of school kids are growing up with enough contact with members of other groups to knnow people are people and are best evaluated one at a time. The integration of sports has done wonders for mutual respect as well. The benefits of integration will be with us long after the foolishnesses have faded away.

What a piece of ill-informed crap...
Anyone who had actually read the University of Michigan’s points system for admission would have realized race is only one of numerous determining factors.


Perhaps one might take a little time and educate oneself and look at the reality of the program:

http://www.umich.edu/~mrev/archives/1999/summer/chart.htm

A white male with a 2.5 GPA (50 points) from the Upper Peninsula (Socio-economic Disadvantage (20 points), yes all of the Upper Peninsula which is 95% white, Michigan resident (10 points) and another (6 points) for an Underrepresented County in Michigan, with an SAT of 1000 (6 points) from a mediocre school (6 points) with an average curriculum (4 points). Total Points 102.

A minority candidate (20 points) from Michigan (10 points) with a 2.5 GPA (50 points), the same caliber school (6 points), with the same difficulty in curriculum (4 points), and a higher SAT of 1350 (11 points) from a middle class neighborhood on the west side of the state (Total Points 101) watches again as his seat is given to the white kid in the name of “affirmative action”.

Tell me all about "white merit". That’s what’s wrong with affirmative action, and that is why the people of Michigan should have rejected it.

The water carriers like La Shawn Barber, who obviously is parotting this weeks Republican talking points and has done no research on the matter, would have one believe that minorities somehow benefit.

Affirmative Action has been a sham for years, although designed to help the only people who were intuitionally denied access to an equal playing field, it certainly in its present form deserves a most expedient burial.

Pistol,
I think you are right when you talk about the need of some people to "get even". That motivates the more vocal and angry members of the pro-affirmative action members of the old line civil rights activists. People like John Lewis of the Congressional Black Caucus who just made some of the most outlandish charges against republicans in this last election.

Lewis claimed that Republicans today are just like, or worse than the racist whites of the fifties and sixties. Whites who lynched freedom riders and burned churches. I had come to believe that people like Lewis, John Conyers and other left overs from the struggle were simply self serving in keeping blacks focused on past injustices.


There is certainly an element of that, because it helps keep them in power. Recently I have been considering the possibility that these race baiting, angry old relics may be sincere in their beliefs. Insane, but sincere. They can't move beyond the terrible realities of the past. The nation as a whole has moved forward in spite of these leftist throwbacks.


LaShawn points out the cold blooded pragmatism of the academics who insist on shoveling ill prepared minority students into the universities, when they know full well that the majority of them will fail, and never earn a degree. Once admitted, the university gets paid.


Mary Sue Coleman is content to have tax dollars follow these impaired students into her university. By the time they drop out leftist faculty will have had a crack at influencing their political orientation, which will certainly be leftist. With grade inflation some may graduate and even become teachers or professors themselves. They can spread the disease.


Affirmative action is a cruel joke and a political tool of the left. Getting even doesn't move the country forward. That can also be one of the goals of the John Lewises and Mary Sue Colemans. They hate America, and that hatred blinds them to any other consideration.


When continuing race as a criteria for preferencial treatment, people who advocate AA choose not to acknowledge that it was exactly that policy that was the under pinning of segregation. That they choose not to recognize that truth brands them as the hypocrites they are.


When the issue is presented to the people they come down against the racism that is Affirmative Action. That is why the racist, undemocratic proponents of AA work so hard to keep these initiatives out of reach of voters. When the voters make their feelings heard, then people like Lewis, Coleman and the rest go straight to the Courts.


LaShawn does good work. I look forward to her articles, unlike those of some other TH contributers who sound more left leaning with every piece they write.


Vanguard states
The reason "blue" states are the first to abolish AA is because it is only in a blue state that things can be allowed to get so far out of hand that even liberals can't find a way to justify it.

Example: Why Michigan?

As a (white) freshman in Michigan's engineering school I was ordered by my professor to help the (minority) engineering student seated next to me, who was having difficulty understanding the class work (understatement of the year - the guy had no business in any college degree program that involved any math beyond basic algebra, let alone a U-M engineering program).

When I refused I was lectured about my obligations to those that were less "fortunate" than I was.

I had heard this lecture before, but that was in high school, where the education wasmandatory and free and kids seriously needed the help to get a diploma. U-M was supposed to be a place where only the best and brightest went, and it was voluntary. Moreover, I was paying hard-earned money TO BE TAUGHT by this guy, not to do his job for him. So I resolved the issue by waiting until the last minute to come to class and making sure to seat myself as far from the "less fortunate" one as possible.

My professor got the message and, bully that he was, looked for a less assertive subject to tutor his special student.

You can be sure that this is not the only U-M Prof to pull this stunt and I was certainly not the only student to be subjected to it.


Just so you know...
It wasn't LBJ who instituted affirmative action it was Richard Nixon.

Re: Ill-informed crap
Oldschoolskills,

Your post would be valid if the ballot proposal targeted only U-M.

But while certainly U-M spawned it, the law targets all racial preferences statewide, not just who gets admitted to U-M.

BTW - when I applied for admission to U-M we were told that the single most important factor in gaining acceptance was not any of the things you mentioned or anything else on the chart you linked. It was rank in class. It seems to me that rank in class would still be a good way to give the poor, the disadvantaged, and the "under-represented" equal footing in getting admitted.

Finally, if Mary Sue and her liberal friends who run my alma mater aren't trying to engage in social engineering, why do "Men in Nursing" get an extra 5 points? Talk about crap!

wiseone
"Finally, if Mary Sue and her liberal friends who run my alma mater aren't trying to engage in social engineering, why do "Men in Nursing" get an extra 5 points? Talk about crap!"

Thanks for making my point...it is crap...howabout legacy points (4) and kissing the provost's butt (20), so what does any of that have to do with one's race?

Who started AA?
Affirmative Action was invented by President John F. Kennedy in 1961 by way of an Executive Order whichmade it the policy of certain branches of the Civil Service.

LBJ expanded it (as he did everything else in government) to all branches of the Civil Service in 1965, again by Executive Order.

Nixon was responsible for proposing, and eventually signing the Equal Employment Opportunity Act into law in 1972. This law essentially extended Affirmative Action as it was being practiced by the Civil Service to private employers.

At no time did any of the Executive Orders or laws require quotas. Nor has the Supreme Court ever interpreted that quotas are constitutional.

The confusion is caused when some liberal insitution (like Berkeley or U of M) imposes quotas and then justifies it by calling it "diversity" or some such. Then liberal judges pull out THEIR thesauruses and find language to say the liberal institution's quotas aren't really quotas so they can say they are constitutional.

Who instituted affirmative action...
...A matter of semantics, as opposed to "who started it".

Johnson had been experimenting with requirements that federal contractors employ certain numbers of blacks and other minorities, but Nixon, notes University of Maryland historian Herman Belz, was the one who fought to retain the experiment and then expanded it to cover all federal contractors. "It was decisive executive branch support for color-conscious employment policies," says Belz, who is the author of a history of affirmative action.

Here a distinction is important. Affirmative action can mean making an effort to find qualified minorities, or it can mean color-based targets and set-asides and dual standards and so on. It was Nixon who committed the government to the latter.

OLDELI YOU CAN BLOW IT
Out you own vent hole. U of M is on the wrong side of an issue that benefits no one regards of race sex or creed.

Below is a copy and paste from another column today on the same subject.

CATATTACK
While your point about the sub titles is well taken, i disagree with your thoughts that everyone should just be called Americans. As mentioned above by Bigbelly, Muslims are not, do not and never will be Americans. Even though we are all creatures of one God, Muslims brains are wired differently than Americans. Why do you think they find it an acceptable way of life when they tell some little kid to strap on a vest and blow themselves and everyone around them to pieces. Muslims are sick sick people and your thoughts I'm sure were well intentioned, but referring to Muslims as Americans was a discredit to those who died on 9/11 and our military troops fighting in the Middle East.

Hispanics? illegal aliens, don't even get me started on that topic.

Clinton Fan, no reason to be paranoid. But if you truly are a Clinton fan you more than likely already have enough problems to deal with trying to figure out reality.

Mr. So and So, I have not been a big fan of yours of late, but your column on affirmative action is right on target and is a topic that needs to be addressed, both by Whites and Blacks. For Whites for the obvious reasons, the white male is without question been discriminated against for the past thirty years. Proud educated blacks should feel offended by AA if they feel that the only reason they were admitted to a school, given a job or a promotion was based not on their qualification but solely on the color of their skin.

As a resident of Michigan the overwhelming approval of prop 2 was the voters of Michigan being the voice of voters of any state USA when it comes to their thoughts regarding affirmative action. Michigan university for what ever reason feels that their credentials gives them the right to disregard the voice of Michigan voters, and to challenge the election results that reversed AA in Michigan. The rumblings of dissent from both alumni and non alumni are already beginning to be heard in Michigan from those who are upset at the University's continued support for AA. There is one way that would get the University's attention though, and that would be if those who make large, regular donations to the school coffers sent their check in this year with the payable amount only being for one dollar, or else just simply fail to send any check at all. This I'm sure would get someones attention and and possible soften the administrators position on feeling the need to be opposed to the idea that everyone applying for admission to the school is on a level playing field right from the start. At this point, Michigan University and their administrators just plain SUCK, and in no way do they represent the citizens and voters of Michigan. That is except for our Uncle Tom Governor, Jennifer Granholm who feels that whites should have a DISADVANTAGE when it comes to applying for jobs and or admission into schools in the state of Michigan.

hntr admin
http://www.headsneedtoroll.org



Jeez Folks
Do we agree AA is a counter productive policy which is right up there with McCain-Feingold and most gun laws as being un-constitutional? Rejoice reality is slowly reducing its scope, popularity and frequency of application.

hntr admin
Obviously you either did not read my post, could not comprehend it or you have a serious issue with facts.

Perhaps you might peruse it again, realize I was in favor of repealing the program and, should you have enough time to pick your knuckles off the floor, repudiate any of the facts or links to the U of M I have sited.

"Proud educated blacks should feel offended by AA if they feel that the only reason they were admitted to a school, given a job or a promotion was based not on their qualification but solely on the color of their skin."

How should the white kid from the UP feel?

By the way I can understand why you would quote such an elegant rant (sarcasm/off)...

Re: It's all crap
If you're talking about U-M's admission's policy, I agree. If the people Of Michigan want to end AA, that's not crap. That's their choice.

Discrimination is good...
...so long as it is the right kind of discrimination. Laws that prevent felons from voting or owning firearms are discriminatory, but justified. Likewise, an elite educational institution dedicated to the most rigorous pursuit of academic excellence is justified in excluding underqualified applicants - whatever their race. This serves a beneficial societal purpose. But when an institution like U of M sets out on a Quixotic journey to right the societal wrongs of the past, as opposed to pursuing its inherent mission, it serves neither mission nor society. In fact, society is left in worse condition for their efforts, for not only is society unchanged for the better, but it proceeds with less confidence in a potential resource for improvement - the university.

I have some thoughts on this
and a pretty good discussion on this very topic on my blog. Look for "Thoughts on Diversity". Click my name and you're there!

Fletch
It's not a quota for tickets, it's an "expected productivity level." If you're out for eight hours and supposedly writing tickets, they expect you to produce some tickets. At least that's the official answer to ticket quotas.

Like you, I still call them quotas.

Oldschoolskills
What in the devil are you ranting about? I never responded to your post. Time for you you
to stand up straight and re read who i was responding to. If you go by two different names, than that is a different story.

hntr admin

Misplaced emphasis on diversity
When diversity is pursued as an end, rather than a means, the inevitable result is mediocrity, moral equivalence and devolution. Historically, value was placed on diversity as a means of encouraging the best ideas for the advancement of other, beneficial objectives. It was understood, without need for explanation, that much of the resulting output under such an "all-comers" system of input would be of limited or counterproductive value. The system worked nonetheless, because it also provided a means by which the cream could rise to the top. In order for that to occur however, value judgments had to be made. It wasn't necesarily a formal, obvious or identifiable process, but it occurred. Under such a system, the Edisons could flourish and the crackpots could be dismissed as such. In today's politically-correct, cult of diversity mania however, the process of separating the wheat from the chaff has been lost. In its place we have established a "one-idea-is-as-good-as-the-next" culture of equivalency that makes no effort to even recognize the need for a standard, much less to pursue one. Unless our society abandons its diversity-driven suicidal death pact, this nation is doomed to eventual extinction, for want of a viable means of perpetuating itself.

Michelle R doesn't remember or is a liar
The trouble started when a white kid lost his admissions slot to a minority kid with a lower GPA (part of the Marxists effort to dumb down America). Michigan tax payers wanted nothing to do with their tax dollars being used to promote racism - admissions based on race vs GPA.

Another Anecdote
I'll see wiseone's anecdote, and raise him an anecdote:

1) When I was a college freshman, my calculus professor asked me to help out a fellow student who was struggling in the class. I did, he passed, and was forever grateful. As we didn't have the same major, I didn't see him very often, but on graduation day, he made a point to seek me out and thank me for helping him "get over the hump."

2) My son is a sophomore at UNLV. His freshman roommate, a kid from Seattle with a 1,300 SAT and high three's GPA, is back home in community college. The SAT matters for exactly one thing in life, college entrance for graduating high school seniors. Once you are in school, another set of skills will determine whether your finish.

The moral of the first anecdote is, you could have just helped the kid. That's where the real learning at the university takes place.

The moral of the second is that everyone is not going to make it. Be careful not to assume it's the black students among you; we call that prejudice.

Origin
Why is race listed on application forms, anyway?

Actually, since it is listed, everyone should check African/American since Africa is humankind's homeland according to the modern science of paleoanthropology as championed by Louis Leakey.

brotherbrown: counter anecdote
"2) My son is a sophomore at UNLV. His freshman roommate, a kid from Seattle with a 1,300 SAT and high three's GPA, is back home in community college. The SAT matters for exactly one thing in life, college entrance for graduating high school seniors. Once you are in school, another set of skills will determine whether your finish."

Since we’re talking about anecdotes, affirmative action and the state of Michigan, allow me to tell you a story of about a group of lower middle class white males who attended the “Michigan State Science Olympics”, sponsored by the Detroit Free Press. A select group of minority students (many of whom where bound for MIT, CalTech, Ivy League schools, etc.) from “Cass Tech”, the Detroit School System’s technology magnate school, also competed. Guess which group swept the entire competition- much to the chagrin of the Detroit Free Press? The minimally-franchised group of white males- including the “Science/Academic Bowl” team competition. The Detroit Free Press was so incensed (Cass Tech’s poor performance apparently undermined the newspaper’s “social engineering” agenda), it subsequently refused to print the results. I know because I was the Captain of the award winning “Science/Academic Bowl” team & this was my first encounter with anti-white male institutional racism. Having outstanding SATs (I have an IQ in excess of 150), being an all-state athlete & JROTC Officer, I accepted a service academy appointment/scholarship. Civilian scholarship ( U of M, MIT, etc) opportunities were apparently reserved for the less qualified, but more “deserving” aforementioned minority students.

While at the Academy, I was introduced to my second experience with institutional racism while on “recruiting leave”: admission points given to “deserving” minority students which allowed said students to be admitted with average SATs 250-300 points lower than their white (this practice occurs at all elite schools.) Ironically, SATs are the greatest indicator WRT how a student will perform their freshman year. Needless to say, 90% of the minority students in my class either flunked out, burned out or were allowed to remain a 5th year (unlike their white male counterparts) IOT graduate with a less academically rigorous degree, e.g., management, political science, etc. In contrast, I graduated in the middle of my class with a BS in Electrical Engineering- the most academically challenging of all undergraduate degrees.

Additionally, as an upperclassman, I had to endure playing “babysitter” to a group of minority candidates that had the privilege of attending a “minority-only” summer enrichment (Engineering) program. Most were conceited, upper-middle class “hyphenated-Americans” who were fully aware of their privileged status: they all drank the affirmative action/entitlement “Kool-Aid” their parents fed them. Their academic backgrounds were “racially normed” against other prospective students within their ethnic groups(s). Very few would have qualified for admission based upon their individual merit.

My entire life I have had to demonstrate that I am twice a smart as all of my more “deserving” female/minority counterparts IOT obtain the same opportunities that they take for granted. I have had a belly full & I don’t want my brilliant son (Perfect scores: Virginia “Standards Of Learning” (SOL) exam) to have to experience the feeling that he is somehow “expendable” in the face of American Society’s post-modern obsession with the mantra of “Diversity for Diversity’s Sake.”

Fletch
We don't disagree.

We just word it differently. You say that AA is by definition always a quota. I say the same thing a different way by pointing out that the liberal institutions try to dodge this by avoiding actual use of the word "quota". They call it "diversity, or "under-represented group", or some such. And the judges who contort the constitution to avoid declaring these policies unconstitutional do the same thing.

brother brown
I DID help the kid...until it became obvious to me he was incapable of doing the work. Example: this guy is in an engineering program at one of the top (and toughest) schools in the country, and he doesn't know the formula for the area of a circle, never heard of pi, can't even begin to understand the concept of dimensional analysis, and doesn't even do his homework.

Don't make the mistake of presuming to tell me what I "could've" done. I know what I "could've" done. I "could've" done all of the kid's class work for him, except it would have been useless. He would never have learned anything. And I couldn't have taken his tests for him, which he surely would've failed anyway.

And then of course, let's carry the anecdote further. How far do I have to carry him? When I get into the real world do I have to do his job for him too? Is that your idea of equality? And do I have to support him and supervise him, or is that my boss' job? You know, the same boss who give me heck if I didn't charge the customer for every hour I worked on his project, or paid a vendor in full after I had to complete or correct his incompetent work.

These are not just "anecdote[s]" for academic discussion. These are real events involving real people with real consequences.

That said, I want to compliment you on your generosity with my time and my abilities. Let me know when you're willing to put me on your payroll and you can keep right on volunteering for me.

Has it ever occured to you that we're not doing people like that a favor when we put them into a situation where they are hopelessly over their heads in the name of "Affirmative Action", Equal opportunity", or "diversity"? Has it occured to you that the reason the libs who run U-M do that is to make THEMSELVES feel better about THEMSELVES, and that just maybe some of the minorities they promote are little more than statistics to them?


talltales
I have a white male friend who always marks the "Other" box on any form that asks his race. If anyone ever challenges him he looks them in the eye and very sincerely asks them "Why, do you discriminate?" So far no one has even tried to answer that question.

Another good one. If you do construction contract work for the City of Detroit you have to file your company's employee racial profile (a list of how many total employees, how many and what kind of minorities, etc.) every month. The only catch is that Federal and State law forbid you to ask an employee what his race, creed, color, religion or anything else that might identify him/her as a minority (I suppose if you see a person walk into the "Women's" room you can assume she's female, but I'm not sure).

Oldschoolskills . . .
posted, "race is only one of numerous determining factors."

Yes, one of the factors. If a white guy said, "I used race as one of the numerous determining factors in hiring this employee," and the employee was white, you'd be screaming, "White racism!"

Years from now, historians will note the blatant hypocrisy that government has demanded of the private sector.


Not volunteering your time
I was just going by what you said, that you refused to help him. Now you are saying you did at first, so I'm not sure what you did; it's your anecdote.

If you didn't want to help him, no big deal, because it's not everyone's thing to do that, but he picked up on how you obviously felt about him, and it would have been better for you not to do it all.

You know, people wash out of their first major or college all the time, often only to finish a different degree or at a college elsewhere. The thing I worry about is that you take your anecdotal evidence of a negative circumstance and presume to apply it to all the black students. Most black students are well adjusted, understand the backlash, and shake it off, but it damages many others, who turn around and become the worst kind of critics of other blacks. Very counterproductive.
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