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Sunday, July 27, 2008
Kevin McCullough :: Townhall.com Columnist
Praying Obama's Prayer
by Kevin McCullough
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"Lord,

Protect my family and me. Forgive my sins, and help me guard against pride and despair. Give me the wisdom to do what is right and just. And make me an instrument of your will."

Thus Barack Obama is reported to have prayed at the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem this past week. With his hundreds of advisors, media, and handlers in tow Barack was taped by thousands of feet of video glancing up, then down, turning his back to the camera, fumbling around the area of the wall he was standing in front of and then sliding his very neatly penned prayer paper into a slit in the wall, touching and retouching it as if to say, "it's right here."

I wondered from the moment I saw him place it in the slit in the wall how long it would take someone to leak what he had written. We didn't have to wait long. And for all the bluster there has been in the blogosphere this week about what an "outrage" it was that someone removed the paper, and showed its content to the media, I had no doubt at all that it would in fact be released.

Feigned indignation about words written on a page is silly. It did not eradicate a prayer prayed by Obama to remove the slip of paper from the wall. It also did not mean that he had prayed the prayer, simply because he placed it there. Prayer is a direct communication to the Creator. And if Barack Obama offered a prayer at the Wailing Wall, God knew it, heard it, and answered it in less time than it took for Obama to find the secret spot.

So since I do not find it morally objectionable that someone found the paper and showed it to the press (and for all we know it could have been one the gaggles of the Obama posse that did so), let's look at the substance of what it says.

"Lord" - We can probably safely assume that he means either God the Father, or Jesus Christ. Since he did not specify (and perhaps did so purposefully to make it more appealing across the religious spectrum) we will just have to agree that we may never know.

"Protect my family and me." - A natural, earnest, and sincere sentiment. One also that is prayed each day by other fathers in America. Some of whom would like their local school districts to not push their daughters towards abortion without parental notice and consent. Daughters that aren't that much different from - Barack Obama's.

"Forgive me my sins, and help me guard against pride and despair." - On a purely theological note, if Barack Obama was in fact the evangelical Christian he claims to be, he would already understand that in a permanent sense his sins were forgiven at the moment of salvation. Yet it is refreshing to note that he is willing to express to the Almighty his dependency and need for help. Certainly something republicans and democrats alike all need help with.

"Give me the wisdom to do what is right and just." - Wisdom, righteousness, and justice are the exact legacy I personally wish to leave my children and the world after my time on earth is concluded. A worthy thing to ask to be certain. Yet it is a tricky one for Obama. Given the fact that he consistently KNOWS the RIGHT thing to do and doesn't do it, could cause one to think this expression is less than sincere. For example to know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the moment Michelle had given birth to either of his daughters that he was experiencing a miracle of an almost indescribable degree is amazing. To know that the little life that he held in his hands in those moments was so meticulously planned by that same Creator, should be evidence and clarity in spades. Why then would State Senator Obama be so insistent to advocate for the deaths - not of unborn children (which he certainly has) , but of children that had survived a procedure designed to take their life - yet had survived all the same. Is it wisdom, is it justice, is it righteousness to argue for the mandated killing of these innocent - born - children?

"And make me an instrument of your will." - Again a theological nuance but he did not capitalize "Y" in your, technically indicating he was not speaking to God. But let's agree he intended to. Should God use him as an "instrument," if he has no desire to reflect "His" will? As Barack Obama has promised to sign the Freedom of Choice Act as his first priority in office, what is consistent with God's will in the premeditated killing of children? Or in removing laws that establish their rights to know of the health and emotional consequences of what will happen to them, heightening the chances of contracting cancers of the breast or uterine? Or in removing the rights of the parents to lovingly guide their daughters to healthy choices about life, sex, and values? The Freedom of Choice Act, by his own admission his highest priority upon reaching office, would eradicate all of this progress and more.

Theologically speaking I find Obama's prayer humble, and something along the lines of what I endeavor to pray on a daily basis as well.

I just hope that Mr. Obama would pay attention to the words he penned, and allow them to change parts of him, that presently seem rather numb to the work of the Almighty.

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Kevin McCullough is the nationally syndicated host of "'Xtreme' Radio and columnist based in New York. He blogs at www.muscleheadrevolution.com. His second book "The Kind Of MAN Every Man SHOULD Be" is in stores now.

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Obama's HOT AIR!
Obama may be the single biggest source of global warming in the western world. Every time he opens his mouth to give one of his patented FULL-OF-HOT-AIR speeches...another polar bear dies in the arctic. Save the world - vote for John McCain. It'll make George Soros really, really mad, and the MSM will go completely NUTS!

No Catholic Can Possibly Vote for Obama!
If the above information provided by Kevin McCullough is not enough to convince anyone who calls himself or herself a Catholic, WHAT IS? The Catholic part of my family is voting for John McCain en masse. If a Catholic entertains the notion of voting for Obama in spite of his wish to murder full term infants, is it because he is FOR keeping convicted murderers alive? The Catholic Church is so misguided in opposing capital punishment, it makes one wonder if they have ever actually read the Bible. The Commandment is Thou Shalt Not MURDER, not kill. And eye for an eye, a life for a life. What did the babies ever do to deserve to be executed? Catholics, UNITE against this evil and the man who thinks it's A-OK!

BO'S CHRISTIAN CREDENTIALS
Prior to his campaign makeover, here's what BO said were the tenets of his "religious" and "civic religion." One might also note who he said his "spiritual" advisors were in 2004. BO is not a Christian, just another liberal trying to fake out the voting public.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/falsani/726619,obamafalsani040 504.article


Prayer at Wall
Mr. Obama supposedly writes "Lord...guard [me] against...despair." Never would have thought Mr. Obama would be one prone to despair. Its also hard to believe that anyone, let alone a presidential candidate, placing a written prayer in a public place, would fail to consider the possibility that the prayer could be made public.

http://www.focusedintent.blogspot.com
http://www.rob22.com

Obama's Prayer

Mr. Kevin McCullough, Sir!
You make some very valid points. In addition to your question to Obama "Why if he is to be an Instrument of God's Will does he support the Murder of Babies for Birth Control Purposes??". I would add the following:

"Why does he support the conversion of America into a Secular Godless Nation along with the Communist ACLU and the Wahhabi Islamic CAIR?";

"Why does he support the Communist ACLU and the Wahhabi Islamic CAIR in their constant battle to distort our constitution and give the Wahhabi Islamics in America Privileges that they fight to deny all other religions, and appear to applaud their success in removing "GOD from the village square??";

"Why does he want to Dishonor our Troops and SURRENDER in Iraq?";

"Why does he number among his closest friends and mentors: a Radical Hate America Pastor; a Wahhabi Islamic Hate America in Farrakhan; and an American Terrorist as a good friend and neighbor?".

As you must know this list could go on and on with valid points of Obama's hate America rhetoric and his Citizen of the World Changes to America, but I'd best stop now and take some Tums. TSGT, USAF

Of course there is nothing wrong with
that prayer...

But I'm willing to bet the farm that Obama was told what the politically correct prayer would be because they were counting on the paper being removed, read, and shared with the press.

All part of the charade!



Prayer For Change


Is Obama praying to become a CONSERVATIVE?

Obama's prayer
I find Obama's prayer deliberate and thought out so people would think what a nice and humble guy the good Christian Obama is. What a bunch of crap.

Obama's Smooth Moves
Barack Hussein should have prayed for more humility. He hasn't shown much lately,if any. He toured the ME and Europe as the rising President. No humility there.

He should also pray that voters will not learn his history in toto before he fools them in Nov.. Also,he needs to pray that his real source of financing will stay under wraps.

Last,but not least,he should pray that the Clintons will lie quiet like the dogs they are and not treat him like he and the MSM treated them.

Wow. I love reading all the responses
here.

Conservatives at Townhall remind me on a daily basis that Christianity is not a "real" doctrine, but merely a shell game that takes place in the political arena.

Conservatives are "outraged" that Obama left a prayer for the EXPRESS PURPOSE of garnering media attention. Conservatives themselves only go to church and profess to believe in Jesus Christ as a PLOY to transmit the idea to other americans that they are humble, pious creatures.

IT'S ALL AN EMPTY SHELL GAME! Conservatives LOVE throwing their Christ under the bus to score a few cheap political points (and then IMMEDIATELY reclaim their pious stance and say a prayer of repentence).


Anne says,
"Obama was told what the politically correct prayer would be because they were counting on the paper being removed, read, and shared with the press."

Thank you, Anne. You are such the embodiment of love and forgiveness. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.


Dr. Moon explains,
"I find Obama's prayer deliberate and thought out so people would think what a nice and humble guy the good Christian Obama is. What a bunch of crap."


Dr. Moon also embodies the faith and charity and love and mercy that are supposed hallmarks of this zany religion.


Thank you Anne & Moon: You re-affirm for me that atheists need to consciously combat this evil hypocritical religion that poisons everything. It's all an empty shell game.

Who Knew?
"It did not eradicate a prayer prayed by Obama to remove the slip of paper from the wall."

Kevin not only offers his interpretation of Obama's "direct communication to the Creator", he thinks he hears other prayers of Obama's as well, just as the Creator hears them.
How arrogant.

Forgive my Cynicism
I do not believe for an instant that Obama's "prayer" was plucked from its secret crevice in an act of pure innocence. Obama doesn't do anything that doesn't have a narcissistic and political calculation. Prayers are personal. That Obama made his public as a campaign stunt is a man totally absent personal humility.

Nothing could be more threatening to this nation than an ego bereft even a modicum of moral guidance.

?
Obammy .....what a blowhard....!

IT'S ALL AN EMPTY SHELL GAME!
Yes, that's an atheist for you. Not a true atheist; because, a true atheist wouldn't care about Christianity, or any other religion.

Rather, those that blow hard against religion are haters of God. They hate the idea that they must answer to someone. They do believe that they will have to answer. But they resent it.

So, like unrepentant delinquent children, they must try to shame and encourage others to be delinquent.

And, the more they wail against religion, then you know, the more they really believe and are resentful.

Who said we should pray for our enimies?
Barack Obama and I disagree on most every issue in this election. A recent Town Hall columnist asked if our country will be harmed if Obama looses. On this particular question there was much debate, my opinion is that this country will be harmed if he wins.

So I am surprised now finding myself coming to his defense in regards to this prayer.

Kevin McCullough asks:

“Given the fact that he consistently KNOWS the RIGHT thing to do and doesn't do it, could cause one to think this expression is less than sincere.”

Kevin, I ask you to read Romans 7 : 15-20.

If no less than Saint Paul struggled with not doing the good that he wanted to do and doing that which he hated, and I think we all struggle with this, I know I do, then we should pray for Obama that our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ will help him just as I ask you to pray for me and as I would pray for you. Because I want you to know that we shouldn't be too quick to count the Lord our God out on this. He works on His own time schedule and in His own way for His purpose, and with Him ALL things are possible, and He can change Obama. Look at George Wallace and Lester Maddox, our Lord changed them, and He can change Obama.
Obama's prayer has some of the elements of a fine prayer. If I could add a bit of constructive criticism, I would suggest that the Senator add some words of thanks and praise.


DanNV
He is from the mold of Bill Clinton.Everything for the cameras. I remember Bill walking away from the funeral of Ron Brown, laughing and talking until he saw a camera pointed his way. He then wiped a (phantom)tear from his eye.

On one Easter Sunday, he was seen with the Missus leaving church holding his Bible for all to see. That very afternoon,he was rendezvousing with Monica. Such hypocrisy.

Obama is following a script given by his benefactors,whoever they are. Soros? Who else? They are not just little people. Important movers and shakers. But who?

Stupid article
Even though Obama's 'prayer' was clearly designed to be picked up and carried by the press, to deconstruct the content is pointless and stupid.

If this is what we're concerned, with we're toast.

He "prayed' out loud for the cameras
enough said. More than enough.

ReadABook
What can and should be critiqued is a man's behavior who is is running for POTUS, at the wall or anywhere else.

Your screen name seems to have flowed from YOUR critique of others. It suggests that others need to be advised to "read a book" by you- as if you are an uber-literate brain trust, unlike other people. So what is it that makes you better than the Christians that make you sick?

Another "Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy"
Here's a great super-secret tactic to use in fighting the great threat of socialism in America and Obama as the POTUS: THE TRUTH.

Lots of people aren't political junkies, and they simply don't KNOW the truth about Obama. The media tells them how popular Obama is, how McCain has no juice, and they believe it.

Every day between now and November 4th, we need to reach out to all the members of our families, especially the young adults who might be swept up with all the Obamamania they see with their peers. Talk to your friends, your neighbors, your coworkers, the people on the bus with you (trying to save $$$ on gas), any and everyone you come across. We need people to be as INFORMED as possible by November, and we need to come out in record numbers to be CERTAIN the electoral college fully understands "the will of the people." We can't chance this one folks. This particular election will determine the life of America itself; will what our founders built be destroyed, or will we be able to fight off the home-grown socialists and communists? Like I said, we need record numbers.

What?
No mention of his country?

This man runs for President of the United States and does not even bother to ask the Lord to protect his country? To guide it?

Oh right, Obama's a "citizen of the world".

The Scare Crow Needs To Visit The Wizard
I kept waiting for a punchline while reading this article. How sad one never came. Mr. McCullough believes that he speaks for god as well as conservatives and in fact he speaks only for himself. I would never think of criticizing a man's prayer. That is something between him and god. Childbirth is not a miracle, it is something most mammals have in common. The intellectual foundation for most social conservatives is very, very weak. Mr. McCullough is proof of that.

Which God?
McCullough alludes to the uncertianty of which deity Obama intended to address (if in fact he had any deity other than public opinion in mind). Obama's "prayer" is in fact a prayer that might tumble from the lips of many American "Christians." And like many other religious practices of American Christians, it demonstrates an enormous lack of understanding of Yahweh of the Bible. McCullough's crtique does no better theologically.

I do wish that we had a leader running for president who truly sought the will of Yahweh and obediently relied upon Him. As noted above, Obama's failure to pray for the nation clearly marks him out. . . but then so do most of his positions and votes in the past.

Lord
Protect me and my family from Barack Obama.
We also need protection from anyone who sees nothing wrong and everything right in him.

despration
hes only one columnists so i guess i cant generalize. this is easily the worst bit of reporting i have ever seen. and im sory to say so, but anyone who agrees with
=antything he has written is stupid. im not sure even his name is right . this is terrible. if there was ever a reason to supsoend the first amendment it is articles like this. although even this piece of trash cant reach that level. .

Obama's Prayer
should probably be - "God how could I sit in the church of Rev Wright for 20 years - with my family beside me no less."
This should not be a minor concern for any Christian.

mrbmrb
The only "trash" I see in this column is the usual, incoherent scribble you deem fit to post in a public venue.

And you find McCullough's writing "stupid"?

Prayers
As the story goes in the New Testment, praying so everyone can see you is not the way to do it.

Focus Group Prayer
If that was in fact the prayer (and I use the term advisedly), Obama left to be found by the Media, it was crafted by a focus group to cover the minimum acceptable ground and offend the fewest people of any religion. There is nothing in this prayer that a leader or a man who wanted to be a leader would pray.

It is a prayer crafted to be found -- and I expect that the next thing we will be led to *discover* will be someone who Just Happens By when Obama is doing something kind for a baby or helping an old lady across the street.

If Obama has no time to read, he can go to BibleGateway and ask Max to read him Matthew Chapter 6. There is a lot about how he screwed up on this entire Magical Negro Tour contained in that one chapter.

And no focus group required.

The communist
BHO prays to have the wisdom to do what is right. I guess its not working. Lieing on a daily basis is something I would deem not right.


"I'm black enough, i'm muslim enough and doggone it, liberals like me."

If Obama was sincere
in praying at the wall, he would have forbid the press from filming it. When one speaks to God, they do not need an audiance around them. Obama was disrepectful to those who go to the wall to pray and not for publicity. Shame, Shame on you Obama.

Obama, God is watching you and He knows what is in your heart, so you better watch out how you try and fool the people, it just won't work.

I wonder what the Jewish people think of Obama and his speech in Berlin.


Obama's Lord...
is not the God of Israel, the Creator of The Heavens and Earth, the Author of Life, nor is Obama's Lord Jesus Christ, the King of Kings, the Risen Saviour, our Returning Lord and King. There is only one true God, and there is an Adversary. Obama does not pray to The One True God.

So, who is his lord? Is it not obvious?


Obama usurps others' religion...
for private benefit. I have been to the wailing wall. It is a religious experience for the conservative Jew. I did not leave a prayer out of respect for a religion I did not practice. Obama is Madonna in Fred Astaire clothing who took the juice from another religion and exploited it. A true Jew probably feels offended but would not publicize it for fear being called a racist. This is the Obama’s get out of jail card and he plays it well.
Obama shows all the signs of a cocaine psychosis. Cocaine leaves residuals long after the party is over. An ego that is center of the universe. No morals, will say anything to fit his needs. Who else would let a private prayer be made public? Notice he has no comment about that happening. I’m tired of giving him credit for his articulation, he’s beginning to look like real scum.

Quote from Obama Chicago SunTimes 4/5/04
"I think there is an enormous danger on the part of public figures to rationalize or justify their actions by claiming God's mandate. I don't think it's healthy for public figures to wear religion on their sleeve as a means to insulate themselves from criticism, or dialogue with people who disagree with them."
==================

So...is he wearing his religion on his sleeve?

Praying in the public square?

Is he being insulated from criticism?

I am slightly offended by McCullough's column, as he makes some judgement calls about what is in Obama's heart that he cannot be privvy to.

Facts are, this publicized trip to the Wailing Wall, complete with an 'authentic' piece of paper left for posterity was a political ploy, photo op, and ...what is his phrase?....a way of wearing religion on his sleeve to insulate himself from criticism or dialogue with those who don't agree with him.

Guess it didn't work.


Personal Observation
God is in charge. He will make B.O....and every other politician..an instrument of His plan.

Fear not. God is in charge.

Having said that, pray with me the following:

I pray for God's Forgiveness and for His healing hand. I pray for boldness to speak out against evil, and for steadfastness and courage to proclaim God and his Word. I pray for a renaissance of faith and a rededication to Biblical tenants. I ask for God's protection for all of His people, and to sustain them wherever they are persecuted for His name. I pray they will be a light in a darkened and failing world. I would ask that the Church not be luke-warm, but burning with the Light and Truth from God. I ask all this in His name, and for the multiplication of His glory. Amen.

Ther can be
NO doubt, this was a "cooked" up job by Obama's
trainers.

They wanted to "prove" to America that he is a christian and erase his former statement: saying he wood stand with the muslims if he has to choose.

Will
You are correct that for some, religion is a shell game, designed to make themselves look good in the eyes of others. Jesus told us that such people will get what they deserve.

But for others it is the result of an honest search for truth, an awareness of sin, and a need for a new life.

Think about environmentalists; just because some celebrities are hypocrites who fly private jets does not negate the sincerity of those who are truly committed to living green.

It is dangerous to judge the motivations of others. After all, you don't want other people judging yours.

conservative logic
"It also did not mean that he had prayed the prayer, simply because he placed it there. "

It also does not mean he did NOT pray the prayer.

Too bad he wasn't watching his kids perform a musical in church, it would be the end to communism, global warming, Catholicism, and mean one less ACLU member.

And, one less performance of Annie.

Conservatives, why don't you take all that hatred and fear and put it to use like your compatriots?

"Make me an instrument....
of your will"

LOL. the materialistic atheistic separationists should be gnashing their teeth about now.

It was a beautiful prayer. I will credit Obama with that, and hope his entire political philosophy will be turned around to actually reflect it.

1) His redistributionist policies are the equivalent of theft of private property.
2) His endorsement of Bernanke's bailout scheme will steal and disproportionately hurt the poor.
3) He wants to continue war, if not in a neighboring country.

Obama's Prayers
Obama's first prayer should be for God's forgiveness for the death of millions of innocents caused by legalized murder which Obama advocates. Perhaps then,He will listen to the rest of his prayers.

Non-issue
Obama's prayer is between him and God. It is none of our business.

Lets move on and figure out what positive reasons we can give to vote for McCain.

shameful Christians
now i don't care if you think obama is the anti-christ this is shameful.

i have been a Christian for 40 years, come from a family of ministers and have beeen around churches all my life.

i have seen and heard this same kind of prayer thousands of times.
if someone is a Christian and claims this is not a prayer they are a liar.

the wailing wall is sancrosanct and no one is supposed to take the prayers from the wall.
so it could not have been planned.

the idea that praying in public is wrong or that it is between only God and the individual is ridiculous.

we pray in public all the time, at least the Christians i know do.

anyway, my point is, his prayer is recognizable to anyone who is a Christian.

anyone who is a Christian that finds fault with this is being a hypocrite if not worse.


Regal Lyon
Just the idea of making the 'king-maker soros' mad--really, really, really mad just delights my heart really, really, really deeply.
He and clinton and oblahma are good mates-- all determined to destroy this country.
As Oblahma prattles on and on, then his deep violent idiocy becomes clearer and clearer. May even make it to the FANatics that drool over his ego-centered blathering. Wonder tho, since I have a relative who is 'just thrilled' to be working for him in the depths of Iowa. Oh well, I always wondered if she had half a brain--now I see that she does not. Mr Difar says it so excellently-- TRUTH!!

Me ....Me ..me ...me ...me
Whether the Obamaesiah was sincere in his photo-op prayer or not ...I can not know for sure. I suspect, like many, that it was a carefully crafted attempt to bolster his 'religious' credentials to the American people & his fellow world citizens!

Like many, his past friends and close associations, his own pronouncements of faith (see 'patriotic's' link above), his voting record on abortion (WWJD comes to mind here), his spiritual mentors for 20+ years, his years of indoctrination in Black Liberation Theology ...etc. ...leaves me to doubt that his faith is rooted firmly in the Bible!

One thing that glaringly stood out in his prayer to me is his ever growing narcissism.

"Protect 'my' family ...'me' ...'my' sins ...help 'me' ...give 'me' wisdom ...make 'me' an instrument"

No mention of others outside his immediate family, no mention of America, ...not even his fellow 'world citizens' but I guess as long as he (Obama) is given "wisdom to do what is just and right" ...the rest of us can rest at ease ...since it is Obama ...and only Obama that can 'heal' our lands ...even to the ends of the earth as his world tour 'proves' ...and save our 'hopelessly empty' souls.

cleverness of me
thank you

we hardly ever agree but yours is the most sincere and honest post on this thread.

Baal was also called lord
Obama knew he would be on carmera when he placed his prayer in the wall..He also knew that prayer would be retrived and made public.I will admit he is quite clever.. He addressed the prayer to LORD.. Well friend there be LORDS many but only one LORD JESUS CHRIST...The Jewish people would only feel disrespect for a man who didnt have the testicles to use the name of Jesus for political correctness when that man professes to be a Christian...But then again myabe Obama didnt adress God by name because baal was also called lord..and to top it off.. Obama didnt have the curtesy to end the prayer properly in JESUS NAME..maybe, must maybe this prayer note was for public view, not for god..

christianlib
I'm rather shocked to see I agree with you for once. Far be it from me to ask Christ to let me sit on his throne for a while, so I can pass judgment on Mr. Obama's prayer.

We will know them by their fruits, not their prayers. I see nothing to criticize in the prayer, but did feel as though I was invading this mans privacy by reading it.

If it had been an intensional public prayer, things may be different.

It was however a blatant disregard for the Jewish faith to remove the prayer and make it public. This is the action that demands our scorn, not the prayer itself.

saltydog
thank you for your intellectually honest and Christian response.

i have no problem with people criticising obama for his politics as harshly as they feel necessary but to tee off on him about a prayer between him and God goes beyond the pale.

I 've been to the Western Wall...
and placed my written supplications to God in the crevices of the wall. The prayers written and communicated to God there are very personal and very raw. To be honest, I would be embarrassed if they were to be made public.

I'm guessing BO knew whatever he placed there would become public knowledge and, therefore, may not have been as real as he wishes he could have been.

I doubt that he would have been able to place a written prayer there without it being noticed by someone. It is always crowded there but I believe his security detail would have cleared some space for him so anything placed would have been easily seen.

It's times like that when I appreciate the fact that I'm an obscure nobody. While I don't particularly care for BO, I feel sorry for his inability to be real and raw in such situations.

Barack Obama..Politician
This was just a convenient pre-planned photo-op. ..and why not? They work for him just as they did for Bill Clinton,years ago.

At Normandy,early one morning,Clintons aides dropped pebbles in a spot on the beach. Later that day,with cameras rolling,Billy went for a walk on the beach to 'contemplate' about the invasion there.

As he came to the prearranged pebble-drop,he knelt down and placed the rocks in the shape of a cross. As cameras rolled,he probably bowed his head and prayed for the soldiers lost.

So don't tell me we cannot legitimately criticize hypocritical Democrats. I'm just calling it like I see it. Any problems?



joy
god thinking. ii always knew that the prayers that are spoken in public before meetings such as conressional sessions, boy scout groups etc were insincere. now youve confinmed it for me. damed apostates,. if they would only do what we insist that they do, that is what is right they would be fine.

dukas, I disagree with your belief ...
that posting a prayer is disrespectful to Jews. As a Christian, I don't believe that placing a prayer there is any more beneficial than another type of prayer, just as I disagree with my Catholic upbringing about the reasoning of praying to Mary. But I also don't believe that I was being disrespectful.

There are some things in life that are "get to's", and placing a prayer at the Western Wall of the old Temple was definitely a "get to." Just like being baptized in the Jordan River wasn't like using some super version of Tide to get the tough spiritual stains out. It was an opportunity to reaffirm my decision in a place that holds powerful historical significance.

I respectfully disagree with your comments about being disrespectful.

A soldier's letter from the battlefield
Hello everyone,

As you know I am not a very political person. I just wanted to pass along that Senator Obama came to Bagram, Afghanistan for about an hour on his visit to 'The War Zone'. I wanted to share with you what happened.
He got off the plane and got into a bullet proof vehicle, got to the area to meet with the Major General (2 Star) who is the commander here at Bagram.

As the Soldiers lined up to shake his hand he blew them off and didn't say a word as he went into the conference room to meet the General. As he finished, the vehicles took him to the ClamShell (pretty much a big top tent that military personnel can play basketball or work out in with weights) so he could take his publicity pictures playing basketball. He again shunned the opportunity to talk to Soldiers to thank them for their service.

So really he was just here to make a showing for the American's back home that he is their candidate for President. I think that if you are going to make an effort to come all the way over here you would thank those that are providing the freedom that they are providing for you.

I swear, we got more thanks from the NBA Basketball Players or the Dallas Cowboy Cheer leaders than from one of the Senators, who wants to be the President of the United States. I just don't understand how anyone would want him to be our Commander-and-Chief. It was almost that he was scared to be around those that provide the freedom for him and our great country.

If this is blunt and to the point I am sorry but I wanted you all to know what kind of caliber of person he really is. What you see in the news is all fake.

In service,
CPT Jeffrey S. Porter
Battle Captain
TF Wasatch
American Soldier
American by birth,
MARINE by the grace of God

Christianlib
In another place, and alone, your leg tingler Obama would have been on his damn knees & praising Allah.

You are lying to us and yourself by stating otherwise.
To you, and other Socialist voters, this is not a hip hop concert.

Obama's a punk!
I've never been so outraged in my life. To think that Hussien Obama would, in one breath, staunchly advocate the killing of both unborn and aborted but born alive babies, then in the next pray for wisdom to be an instrument of God! What a scheming little punk!


Listen to the words of the Bible
Judge not, less ye also be judged. That says it all to me. You do not know what is in Obama's heart. You do not know how his soul is connected to our Lord. Do your sins negate all your good points and your relationship with God? Have you ever thought "we'd be better off if he/she were dead?" (insert wife, father, neighbor, uncle, criminal, etc.) So, if you have had a thought of murder in your heart, what does that do to your salvation? Sorry, but I think you would all need to remember that we all sin, that we are all in need of redemption by our Savior, and that we should never presumed to judge the worthiness, Christianity, redemption and salvation, of anyone else other than our own relationship with our Lord.

Gambler 5112
From the Army Times:
The Army refuted the accuracy of the account of the Obama visit.

“These comments are inappropriate and factually incorrect,” Bagram spokesman Lt. Col. Rumi Nielson-Green told the New York Daily News.
Obama didn’t play basketball at Bagram or visit the Clamshell, she said.
“We were a bit delayed ... as he took time to shake hands, speak to troops and pose for photographs,” Nielson-Green said.


Photogbill #46
I, too, noticed the me me me of his prayer. Not ONE word that God might bless our country! Of course, this is a country of which he is ashamed...what a crock! I agree with others, he knew it would be retrieved and revealed and it was written for that purpose. This man is a SHAM, pure and simple!

To Lynn and Judge Not
You are correct in your admonition that the Bible tells us to judge not and 'soul' judgement is reserved exclusively for God ....however ...the Bible also gives us many other admonitions. One is that we are to 'test the spirits' so to speak ...that we know 'men' by their 'fruits' ...that all that speak the words 'Lord Lord' ...are of God ...that there are false 'prophets that we are to be aware of.

Please explain something to me. How exactly can a 'man of Christian faith' that seeks to 'rule' with Godly wisdom justify the position and voting record of Obama on the issue of abortion? Are you excusing away Obama's steadfast disreguard for life as merely a matter of sin ...that we are all guilty of in some way shape and form? ...that we should just overlook this as a minor and insignificant matter? What was it Jesus himself said about 'suffering the little ones to come unto him' ...something about a millstone around one's neck and being cast into the sea...wasn't it?

Please elaborate ...and explain just how you think Jesus would react to Obama's stated position and his 'voting record' on allowing a breathing baby, that survived a botched abortion attempt, to die of starvation and neglect!

How about his close relationships with hate mongers like Jerimiah Right and father Pfleger ...and his indoctrination in Black Liberation Theology which rejects a God that isn't a racist ...and doesn't place the welfare and well-being of the black community first and foremost?

As for judging Obama's 'behavior' ...there is no Biblical admonition that prohibits anyone from doing this. None whatsoever.

Furthermore ...it is Obama ...playing the role of Obamaesih ...and his wife that has been casting a lot of judgements on those of us that have not bowed down to his superior 'wisdom' and will ...those of us that have rejected 'His Eminence's' message of 'hope and change' ...those of us that haven't seen the 'light' of Obama.

Correction to previous post...
I meant to say at the end of the first paragraph:

"that NOT ALL that speak the words 'Lord Lord' ...are of God ...that there are false 'prophets that we are to be aware of."

A Prayer or a List of Demands?
To me, this reads more like a kidnapper's list of demands to free the hostage or a child's Christmas list than a prayer. I have rarely been one to criticize the prayers of others, but where is the recognition of powerlessness before the one who made him? Where is the worshipful attitude? Jesus taught us to pray in the model of following the Lord's prayer, yet I see little of that model reflected here. There are the demands, not requests, but where is the entreaty to the God of the Universe? Sorry, Barak, but this prayer is an Obamanation.

Just a thought
How much will this go for on ebay?? this sooo sacred paper, maybe Mr Sorros can earn some brownie points with God if he buys it, please no comments on Christian Charity, baby killers don't deserve charity. God Bless America we sure need it!!!

Obama Doing God's Will
Certinly Barak Obama can be acting in God's Will as much as Pharoah did in preventing Moses from leaving Egypt. God has continued to use people diametrically oppposed to His people's well being in order to teach them a lesson and/or to provide them with opportunties to grow in endurnce for His sake.

On the road to Damascus

To: angusdaddy reply 57 descending

Yes, Romans 1 does say God abandons those who reject Him. C S Lewis puts it this way “There are two kinds of people: those who say to God, "Thy will be done," and those to whom God says, "All right, then, have it your way." ”

But I ask you to think on this. A man named Saul was on the road to Damascus to arrest, persecute and stone some Christians, when our Lord and Savior met him and changed him. So like I said in my first post, don't count God out, in Christ all things are possible.


we all should have our prayers

kept to ourselves. worry about yourself...

THE CAT'S OUT OF THE BAG!
Islaeli 'Ma’ariv' newspaper: “Barack Obama's note was approved for publication in the international media even before he put in the Kotel, a short time after he wrote it at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem."

These facts are also backed up by the most popular newspaper in Israel, 'Yediot Aharonot'.

Where is that Dhimmicrat cry for privacy again?
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