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Sunday, December 16, 2007
Kevin McCullough :: Townhall.com Columnist
Why we need the GOP 'Bloody Knuckles' Primary
by Kevin McCullough
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Despite all the feelings that have been hurt, religions that have been prodded, endorsements that have been given, contentions that have been refuted - and not, and certainly all the arguments that have been had - this GOP Primary has been exceedingly good for the conservative republican voter. I might remind you it didn't start out that way.

Way back when I first wrote of my endorsement of the historic, record setting, earlier than ever before primary race revving up - one thing was crystal clear, Rudy Giuliani was the favored candidate. His lead in the polls was strong. Heck he was even throwing statements around about how he had the Evangelical Christian vote "sewn up."

But look how far we've come...

We've heard from the candidates in what has to amount to a near record number of times in forums and debates, we saw the early starters criticize Papa Bear Fred Thompson for getting in "so late." (In all actuality Thompson entered the primary schedule pretty much on roughly the same time-table traditional candidates have.) In his lead up to it Fred was smooth, intense, and looking like he would wipe the floor up with the other guys.

John McCain got out the jumper cables and tried three different times to get his "Straight Talk Express" back on the road... I'm still not sure if it ever left the terminal.

Lots of conferences CPAC, and Values Voters Summits among them - and even Rudy showed up to pitch his "I'm not really a conservative - but I'm counting on grace points because I'm here talking to you." And in fairness - I think he won some - at least at the time.

Much ado was made about straw polls, the whispers were - that Brownback was going to win Ames and he had Stephen Baldwin, Bobby Schindler, and a bunch of other folks working the rope lines for him. Man those Brownbackers made a lot of noise - especially at CPAC. And oh yes - on the issue of straw polls - with every 5th or 6th place finish in one - Ron Paul supporters would swarm the message boards with predictions of their Messiah's "breakout." For all practical purposes since then Brownback and Paul have both backed out of "contention."

Speaking of those debates Rudy and Mitt would spat, Fred would sleep, and this unassuming but whamo articulate guy from Arkansas just did his thing. Quietly his numbers moved up, others peaked or declined.

Then there came the endorsements "Evangelicals for Mitt" included Bob Jones III, Biblical professor Wayne Grudem, and what had the look of a looming Dr. James Dobson stamp of approval. (Dr. Dobson still hasn't shut the door to Mitt - but he scratched all the other front runners of his list.) That Arkansas guy wowed us with Chuck Norris and Jerry Jenkins - two significant names to the evangelical right not to mention all we hicks who call red states home. And for the beltway elites the National Review Online knighted Mitt.

There was a surprise at Ames - it was Mike Huckabee's second place finish. Then there was a nearly equal surprise - Mitt Romney's dominance of the predominantly evangelical Values Voters Summit online straw poll.

While Huckabee got pummeled with questions about his faith in debate after debate. Fred said he didn't much go to church and didn't need to meet Dobson. Rudy copped to not really thinking his faith meant anything by way of politics. Tancredo tried to improvise a few Jesus words on the debate platform. And interestingly enough - one of the most devoted men Duncan Hunter has yet to offer comment on faith at all. Then after much consideration Mitt floated the idea, pulled it back, then eventually gave a speech that was intended to insulate him from further faith questions - but in all practical measure any objective observer would have to admit that it opened the pandora's box a little wider.

The pundits had fun with it too. Pro-Rudy types were trying to sell "Constructionist Judges" to the values voters. Camenker/Rios/Jackson were attempting to smear Mitt over what amounted to little more than their own opinion of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts' Constitution. Then Hugh Hewitt started the rumbling about how a vote for Huckabee was a vote for Rudy...uh... until Huckabee left Rudy in the dust of taking the lead in the national polls. This last week both Romney and Huckabee leapfrogged the Mayor in the state where it was all supposed to come together for him - Florida. NR's Byron York took public disagreement with Rich Lowry, talk show hosts are criticizing the candidates of their colleagues, even at TownHall many of the main contributors differ on who they like right now less than 20 days till the Iowa caucuses.

The November surge of Huckabee into legit top tier status, and in December into sometimes front runner status caused more riffs, divisions, arguments and (it has been secretly whispered) possibly costing one radio guy his shot at becoming the Press Secretary for Mitt Romney.

I asked one of the senior management at TownHall this week their thoughts on an all out conservative war - even shooting across the pages of our own internet property.

His response, "I love it!"

I do too!

For too many election cycles the GOP has appeared passionless, apathetic, and generally speaking uninspiring. What I love more than anything is that you now have two guys leading the pack who have close to similar records on taxes (by way of fact - Huckabee's is slightly but ONLY slightly better than Mitt's). They both embrace the social issues of the long established values of the party. They both reject abortion, and embrace a constitutional amendment to protect marriage. They both want to win in Iraq and keep terrorists sweating it. They have also both publicly stated that they want to see Americans come together to solve our own problems. Huckabee has the potential to reach out to African Americans unlike perhaps any candidate the GOP has ever presented, and Mitt has the potential to use his out of the box strategery to solve problems in the private sector that liberals will scream and demand be solved in the public sector - with only more of our tax dollars.

Both men have been executives in their respective states...the liberals have yet to run a corner store.

Yet the only reason we've come to know any of this - is because those seeking office this year rolled up their sleeves, got into the game early and have awakened us in ways so emotional that whole states were vying to move their primary election days up earlier and earlier - so that their citizens could "play a part."

At times its been ugly, at times exceedingly unfair - but the message has gotten out that this election SHOULD be "Anyone but Rudy!" It is in essence a much harsher rehearsal than the battle the GOP will face against the Democrat nominee six months from now. Our guys are tired, but they are also fluid, quick thinking and the sparring is making them better every single day.

And it should! We are not hiring the night manager at McDonalds. The leader of the free world will be forced to spend sleepless nights in prayer on behalf of the nation he seeks to protect and guide. A little yammering from one opponent or another - in this context - is nothing compared to dealing with nuclear programs in Iran or North Korea.

(Total side note here, my producers and I were contemplating the idea of ALL the GOP candidates running as members of an adminstration - Huckabee/Romney or Romney/Huckabee. Giuliani on Defense, Hunter as National Security Advisor, Big Fred as Secretary of State, Tancredo as Homeland Security Czar, McCain on Transportation, Ron Paul as Secretary of Health, and Alan Keyes as Secretary of Education.)

The choices we have left standing with Mitt, Huck, and Fred aren't bad - especially considering that the democrats are attempting to turn one another from cocaine into crack!

Yes kids, we are almost there - and it has been worth the ride!

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About The Author
Kevin McCullough is the nationally syndicated host of "'Xtreme' Radio and columnist based in New York. He blogs at www.muscleheadrevolution.com. His second book "The Kind Of MAN Every Man SHOULD Be" is in stores now.

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straw polls
here is the actual straw poll win/lose record.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/straw-poll-results/

Guess who's winning? }8->

Why would Paul supporters brag...
Why would Paul supporters brag about a 5th place finish? Paul finished first in more than half of the straw polls.

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/straw-poll-results/

Kevin, if this analysis
is supposed to unite republicans on shared values of political expediency and make us feel better - its a NO THANK YOU. I like the idea of having all candidates joining the nominee's administration - but Romney should get the immigration department to ensure illegals get jobs and get off welfare. Whoever wins the republican nomination should not even consider asking Romney to be VP. Here is another way of looking at it - Liberals have 2 senators who actually have "shared values" with them and they can easily unite the center-left because conviction and clarity on social issues has great momentum. I never thought a day would come when I would envy a liberal voter. The center-right will not rally behind Romney because his record is inconsistent enough to offend and alienate a big range of voters - minorities, women, military families, immigration voters, voters from the 24 states that have defined marriage with gender and number of people included, and of course abortion conservatives. His polls will be stagnant just like they have been in the primaries - a rich repulican businessman without the support of conservatives - DON'T MAKE IT THAT EASY FOR DEMOCRATS TO CRASH US! November 2006 should have given us some insight.

Not a bad article.............
except for the deliberate mischaracterization of what transpired in Massachusetts. The more I read from Mc Cullough, the more his prose reminds me of the closeted, liberal Republican shill. This battle between the social conservatives and the LGBT Republicans and Democrats will not be over until the nomination.

the author is an idiot
This election should be about a robust national defense, free market capitalism, and internally limited government as opposed to moral equivalence and socialism. Huckabee is the worst thing which could befall the GOP. The GOP base's decision to value private notions of social conservatism over the larger issues facing this nation will be its undoing. Huckabee's anachronistic notions of christianity scare the thinking independent voter into voting for the likes of Hillary or Obama. Get a grip. Keep religion private and vote on what will mater to our children.

I don't see it
Romney is emerging as a consensus candidate. Fred is sporadically dead. I don't see Huck. The vetting is just getting started and there is a lot more to come.

Rudy is hurting but he has deep pockets and he will win some NE states. He is not dead and Romney, Huck and maybe Fred could all stay in long enough to help Rudy out of his sick bed.

Romney will stay in all of the way. What happens in the early primaries determines how far Huck and Fred go.

Romney is going to get some of the early primaries and has a great shot at all of them given his poll numbers and his GOTV.

The early primaries may be more of a weed out process than a spring board. Pat Robertson got no bounce out of IA.

Fortunetly...
...it will all be over by 15 February,when we will know who the two major party candidates will be.Christmas comes early next year.I'm afraid I have lived too long to get very excited about another primary election.I have seen too many of them,and every one had the fate of the free world riding on it's outcome.And yet we survived.We'll survive this one also,as well as the election.And God's in heaven and all's right with the World.

Fight for the court............
In as much as the LGBT wings of both major political parties would like to make this battle exclusively about religion, fiscal responsibility, and the national security of the United States, this battle is the culmination of the culture war based on the fraudulent and fallacious scientific research of Evelyn Hooker and Alfred Kinsey. We're not addressing the empirical nature of the hard sciences and practical business applications, but whether to pursue the course of Scandanavia, Canada, and the EU. The core of the LGBT personality is histrionic personality disorder. More succinctly, if their lips are moving, they're prevaricating.

Man are you in for a surprise
Please allow me to give you a quick math lesson.

When whatever candidate you shill for has 10% of his supporters show up, and Paul has 70% of his voters show up, you lose badly.

That's the lesson of the straw polls. You should look in to it.

Your vote.
All of this self-righteous hand wringing is pure political theater.

You people will vote for the GOP nominee, regardless of which white male it turns out to be.

You know there will soon be two seats on the SC and you can taste victory.

You're not about to sit on your hands next November. That means you will vote for Mr. Family Values Giuliani, Mr. Cult of Satan Romney or Mr. Aw Shucks Huck.

it is all over but the punditing
In terms of likeablity, Mitt, Rudi and Fred are all dead. Huck wins hands down and in the end that is what a political race has become for everyone but the hard core base. And on that point the hard core base of the republican party is not the fiscal conservatives who show up last and rarely do the neighborhood walks or are the election judges or do the mailings. Those are the social conservatives, chalk up another win for Huckabee. Mitt has his own money so just like other millionaires he will try to buy the nomination. Huck's supporters are the little guys but there are a lot more of them. BTW, this organizational claptrap that mitts or rudi's organization is so much better than Huckabee's overlooks the primary point. A lot of Huckabee's supporters go to churches and see each other on a regular basis, and/or they communicate on the internet. Organization and money can only go so far, personality and accessabilty can go a lot further. A mass movement is much better than a money movement.

Huck's tax record better than Mitt's????
Whoa there Kevin . . . I think you lost all of us on that one.

One guy never raised taxes (Mitt)

One guy raised tons of taxes (Huck)

Taxes raised by $500 million under Huckabee.

The AR budget grew from 6.7 million to 16 million during his time as governor.

A tax cutting fiscal conservative he is not.

If you can't get the basic facts right, how can we trust the judgments you draw from those facts?

The Conservative Mind
I agree that this long primary season has been good for the Republican Party.

Educating people on the basics, healthy debate of the issues, is bringing about policy consensus and helps to witness the leadership qualities of all the candidates.

Now, if I could just get a grid of all the main issues on one page on topics such as national defense, taxes/IRS, health insurance, debt, economy, immigration, reduction of government, energy, entitlement programs and the Department of Education it would make it easier to learn the different view points and solutions and help me decide who is the real conservative.

I'm with Jeff
I've not heard Huck has a better record on taxes than Mitt from ANYONE but Kevin. Where is he getting this information from?

The Paulians strike
again. They must be very bored. Their candidate is weird.

Mitt Rommney on Meet the Depressed

Showing his true colors on immigration.

I'm sorry, this man is a PHONEY and I hope he doesn't get the nomination for this reason! Or Rudy or Huckabee for that matter.

Anyone else watching this crap?

Sam

I completely agree, but I just had to see how he was going to explain his flip-floping self.

I know I should be careful- curiosity killed the cat.

That being said, I just had to make sure my opinion of the man was valid. It was.

Kevin M writes:
Huckabee has the potential to reach out to African Americans

LoL He’s too busy reaching out to the illegals it seems.

And Christian Manfred writes:
You people will vote for the GOP nominee, regardless of which white male it turns out to be.

Sorry Christian, but there is going to be a lot of con serves that will NOT hold their nose and pull that lever any more, and I am one. If some RINO ends up on that ticket, or it turns out to be someone I don’t think will be securing our border and country, I am writing a different name into that ballot!

Free Ramos and Compean
If we can’t have HOME SECURITY first, the rest just won’t matter!
Tancredo/Hunter 2008!
http://teamtancredo.org/home/
Tom’s best quote: I fully and completely support the right of the people to keep and bear arms.
http://www.gohunter08.com
Hunter’s best quote: Move away from the Ted Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party. (Jun 2007)

Ya gotta be kiddin'
"Huckabee has the potential to reach out to African Americans unlike perhaps any candidate the GOP has ever presented,"

Go back to the Morgan State "debates" (you know, the one the "front tier" candidates avoided?) and read his response about race relations. I insist Huckabee plagiarized his response from Jesse Jackson. The mostly black audience saw it for the pandering it was. They reserved their most enthusiastic responses for Hunter, Tancredo and Paul who didn't veer an inch from their standard message of "jobs being lost to illegal immigration".

I like the tone of this essay and the general message but in the end, very poorly thought out.

Oh and Sam

That's Sean VANNITY to you. Hahahaha

I wish I could take credit for that very appropriate description of Sean, but alas I must confess, that I stole it from another poster at TH.

I agree -- the debate is good!
Hey, it gets the average Joe or Jane INVOLVED -- people like me can voice their opinion. I say "Hey, this is healthy debate. This is what our country is about."

That being said, I am a Mitt Romney supporter, because he has the experience that we need in a leader of the free world -- especially in business.

Mom in Wisconsin

I won't vote for Huckabee
I cannot vote for Huckabee. I feel just as strongly about that as the social conservatives feel about Rudy Giuliani.

Huckabee's views are diametrically opposed to my own: He's a protectionist and populist on economic issues, and a Bible-thumper.

I became a conservative in high school when I first became attracted to the conservative ECONOMIC message of free enterprise, free trade, and entrepreneurship. Those were the things that Goldwater and Reagan talked most about.

I don't give a flying crap about "Christian values", abortion, same-sex marriage or any of that stuff. In fact, a number of my friends and co-workers are gays and lesbians and they are among the most decent people I ever met.

If the GOP is going to become the Christian Evangelical Party, it can say good-bye to the fiscal conservatives like me. We will either not vote at all, or we'll wait for the occasional moderate Blue Dog Democrat to come along and vote for him.

HUCKABEE & ROMNEY?

.....McCullough ....you have written some weird articles in the past but this one goes beyond the twilight zone ...

.....A marriage Amendment? ...an Amendment to make abortion illegal? ...shades of prohibition ...

.....As much as I am pro life and favor traditional marriage these should not be for the Federal Government to decree upon the States ...haven't we emasculated States rights enough? ...

.....I do not want to live in a Theocracy where religious beliefs become Laws ...

.....Return to Bizarro World Kevin ...your friends miss you .....COLOSSUS

DR CHARLEMAGNE - 3:23 am

.....AMEN!!!!!! .....COLOSSUS

SteveL, you should qualify
your conservatism.

It sounds to me like you became a FISCAL-only conservative, which means, essentially, a neo-con.

That's fine, it's certainly your right.

But true conservatism encompasses the social issues, too, and on a broader spectrum than simply the religious issues.

Frankly, if in order to preserve true conservatism on social issues we have to "say good-bye to the fiscal conservatives like" you, well..... Adios, bud.

Too Many Candidates
The problem is, the candidate who get around 30% of the vote is likely to win. This will anger the 70% who lost.

Its too bad we cannot have a national referendum on them all. Then go to the primaries with the top two vote getters. Atleast a majority of Republicans will have selected the candidate.

Get behind Fred Thompson. He's the only true conservative thru and thru.

What's missing
from this long primary has been debate on a wider range and deeper inquiry into the issues. That is the fault of the debate sponsors, moderators and media pundits that haven't had the imagination or public interest to examine the candidates' positions on those issues. Also, with all this extra primary time it seems to be a shameful matter that guys like Tancredo, Hunter, Paul, Brownback and now to a lesser extent Thompson and Huckabee did not get more face time with the media and at the debates. There is still a strong MSM influence to limit the choice of the people. That needs to be countered and removed. The long primary season had helped somewhat but there is a lot more to be done. This article isn't so much about who as how. Therefore I won't express my preference in keeping with the spirit of the piece.

SteveL
Here comes Lilly the Looney Liberal agreeing with you. There are many things about hard-core conservatism that I agree with---on another post I said I think of a "conservative" as a middle-aged man in a good suit who gives me wise advice on my investments, and a "right-winger" as some guy in his undershirt drinking beer and threatening to shoot me because I disagree with him.

If conservatives would weed out the abortion, guns, gays, and God zealots from their ranks and focus on fiscal issues, they might find themselves joined by a fair number of liberals. We too pay our bills on time, save money, and look for a good return. We deplore the damn-the-deficit attitude of Bush II and Cheney ("Reagan taught us that deficits don't matter", phooey). Liberals and conservatives really do have a common ground. Maybe a beginning would be to build on that and not let the GOP be hijacked by social extremists.

BrianR
Being concerned about fiscal issues isn't all that makes a neoconservative. For a quick summary of neoconservative political theory go to "Leo Strauss' Philosophy of Deception" then see if you think SteveL fits the bill.

As for the social issues, the problem is that social conservatives want political power so they can force their extreme views on all the American people, and those views show the very worst of America---suspicion, intolerance, prejudice, hatred, bigotry, and a mania for control. I (a Democrat) might vote for a Republican on fiscal issues, but I would never vote for anyone of either party who advocated taking medical decisions away from physicians, or protecting those who practice hate speech in the pulpit, or who would allow free access to untraceable and unregistered firearms.

Actually, Lilly
I'll stick to my own considerations on the nature of conservatism, as I outlined here: http://viewfromtheisland.townhall.com/g/b946ac31-9455-4f40 -9fe8-4f043c0404e5

As to your assertion that conservatism entails the "forc(ing) their extreme views on all the American people", I would posit to you that it is in fact liberals who use the cudgel of Big Government to force onto the body politic ideologies and policies that are anathema to our traditional culture and values, and in many or most cases contrary to the Constitution.

True conservatism holds limited government power as a basic immutable value. There are those on the Right who do, indeed, make the same mistake as liberals of trying to impose their own views on the populace as a whole through the use of that same government cudgel. They are NOT true conservatives.

As to the gun issue, your conflation of that into this discussion is actually a misrepresentation of the argument, because gun rights are actually founded in the Constitution itself, specifically the Second Amendment. So if you're trying to make the point that the Constitution itself is somehow ultra-Right-Wing.... well, I think you should examine the ramifications of that stance. The same holds true for "hate speech"; the First Amendment guarantees free speech, not free speech of a government-approved nature or content. The minute you start censoring unpopular or even repulsive ideas, you no longer live in a free society.

You live in a government-controlled totalitarian society, no matter how benign.

And they never stay benign for long.


If Huckabee
Truly believed everything he is spouting. It would be great. But most everything he is professing to be FOR now, he has been against for years.
His stance on illegal immigration
His stance on taxes
His stance on Iraq and Afghanistan
His stance on conservatism
He almost destroyed the conservatives and Republican party in Arkansas.
He is not a conservative no matter what he spouts now
He is not a constitutionalist, No matter what he spouts now
He IS an opportunist, that is taking advantage of the gullable.

Tancredo and Hunter are our only choices
For truly conservative, Christian Republicans the choices are far more limited than the media take on it. Tom Tancredo and Duncan Hunter are the only two with the complete package and the records to match the talk. the rest are plants by big money to maintain their strangle hold on power in this country.

The others are not conservatives although Romney makes the best case of all of the rest. But how is it possible that he became governor of a state that keeps electing Kennedy, Kerry and formerly Dukakis. I maintain that his newly found conservative positions are a stark contrast to the message and the governance he provided in Taxachussetts. If the Northeastern elite of Boston and New York had not supported him, he could not have been elected dog catcher.

These elites are pushing for globalization. And they are working hard to get full and complete access to all of the resources of North America in one neat, complete package they call the North American Community. Once agin the choice is between Tom Tancredo and Duncan Hunter.

McCain "Nightmare" For Dems?
Democratic Strategist Calls John McCain “Nightmare” For Dems

WATCH VIDEO


http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/democratic-strateg ist-calls-john-mccain-nightmare-for-dems



Seeing Do Not See--Hearing Do Not Hear
We cannot see the virtues in others we do not have in ourselves.

Why is it that we are so slow to trust and quick to judge? Simply because we have been tricked soooo many times; in particular in politics. We have become cynical and apathetic. We cannot believe or trust what we hear or see. It seems to be all smoke and mirrors.

We have seen the opportunists, who will jump in when a crunch hits the leading hopefuls, as if they will glide into place without all that scrutiny, on their past record or try their patience, and integrity. Not this time around, you are not fooling us; or will they?

I disagree with you on this opinion,"(by way of fact - Huckabee is slightly but ONLY slightly better than Mitt's). No way is that true. Huckabee is at his waterloo.

Mitt will be tested through and through, and he may not win, as I observe, because people are blind and cannot see the virtues in him, they lack in themselves. "All the ugliness we see in others is only a reflection of our won nature."

Mitt has maintained a positive attitude, win or lose, upbeat and stalwart and in his place. The bias uninformed news is for the most part a complete disgrace. The news creates more problems than it solve when their message to so fat on theory and thin on the truth. So many statements without a gram of valid proof.

The guy how has been strong, without skipping a beat is Mitt Romney and his team, and for the most part we hold high the values of integrity in that man Mitt. All through the campaign he has held true on all the issues that concern me, and I believe even you too.

A vote against mitt, is to vote amnesty, pork barrel spending, abortion, and obsolescence of the traditional family, along with un-Constitutional restrictions of our moral freedoms to choose. The swelling of secularism and taxation and Dumbing down of the nation. It is true, if we do not open our eyes and ears to the truth.

$3,174,279
is how much money Dr. Paul has raised so far today. Read it and weep, jr. neocons. The Revolution grows...

His Money Will Perish With Him
Ryan01 writes:
Sunday, December, 16, 2007 2:59 PM
$3,174,279
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A Spicy response
Fake People, Living Their Fantasy

Where I see people compromising with reality, the values and virtues that lead to spirituality and self mastery I realize how so many have not grown up yet, frozen in time at puberty, concerned with themselves.

While we embrace contradictory and unstable values we are building fake lives, where fake people lose the power to choose. So over preoccupied with themselves they have no respect for anything but their own selfish gain. Just cross one of them and you will see anger or hate surface as a monster you never knew. They are nice when you are nice, but when you are not watch your P’s and Q’s.

Ron Paul has compromised with to many values that are protected in the constitution.

Why Religious Values Support American Values
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Religion/hl899.cfm

Why Religion Matters Even More: The Impact of Religious Practice on Social Stability
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Religion/bg1992.cfm

==WE CANNOT IGNORE THESE SELF-EVIDENT TRUTHS==

==WANTED FOR LIFE, MOTHERS AND FATHERS FOR CHILDREN==

BRIAN R + ONE - LILLY ZERO

.....Brian ...your 1:04 post was a Classic ...

.....Lilly ...you make sense at times but you concentrate on Far Right Wing Radicals ...but you ignore Far Left Wing Radicals ...such as Kennedy and Kerry (thanx SGT RELIC ...dynamic dummies was a knee slapper) ...

.....A Far Right Wing Radical is an abortion clinic bomber ...A Left Wing Radical puts spikes in trees to maim and injure loggers ...

.....No Conservative would support either and I suspect you wouldn't either ...read my 11:18 post to see what a true Conservative thinks .....COLOSSUS

Conservative Or Liberal ..
Conservative Or Liberal ..

‘Cada cabaza es un mundo.”
“Every head is a world.”

No one person thinks alike, and no one person knows what every other person knows.

When we live in a society like ours, one that has reached a level of control and ability to use and transform our own environment. from generation to generation, we begin for ignore or to forget the very sacrifices and disciplines that made what we have today possible.

At this point we slowly begin to lose our freedom, by unhealthy compromise. We begin to live fake lives and adopted fake views. These actions amount to the antitheses of principle and law, of social and scientific truths, and the antitheses of progress. But because it is so much fun to go off the beaten path that we eventually sink so low that new generations never knew or our freedom and opportunities, much less any vision of such a life.

Who is able to remain true and strong, must be tested by adversity, as abundance and prosperity foster weakness and complacency. Freedom must be won every day by overcoming adversity, or ignorance, superstitions and fake views become the rule of the day.

This is where we stand, and fake views and fake news have polluted the primaries, but the ones who soon or late eventually win or the ones who benefit truly cherish and honor, integrity and truth. But to one who’s live has been riddled with uncertainty, the truth sometimes seems more of a threat, because of personal inconstancies. The only real way to learn the truth is hard for one who is not true and honest. For this same reason it is difficult to discern what is the truth and who is true to that truth.

Mitt Romney love America and the American people. He says ‘The greatness of the American people lies in our discovery of Freedom, protected by the constitution.”

Why Religious Values Support American Values
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Religion/hl899.cfm

Will McCain Pick Lieberman for VP?
Lieberman to endorse McCain

Politico-Sen. Joseph Lieberman (Conn.), who was on the national Democratic ticket in 2000, will cross the aisle to endorse Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) tomorrow, Republican sources said.

The two will appear together on NBC’s “Today” show tomorrow, then at an 8 a.m. town hall meeting in Hillsborough, N.H. They will talk with reporters after the meeting.

READ MORE

http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/will-mccain-pick-l ieberman-for-vp


Rep
Steven King is going to endorse someone tomorrow. His endorsement could make a big difference.
all we can do is wait and see.........

brian r
exactly how does looney lilly justify the missus clinton assertions that she wouild like to take all the profits of the oil companies and her let the rich pay more for the common good. When the govt starts taking the taxes of public held companies anmd the earners are again forced to make more sacrifices to subsidize the losers the dims hold close at hand to secure their votes then later ignore. Perhaps if lilly had more compassion she would send the message to her dim masters they are failures at resolving any issue involving the poor. But alas she is more concerned about championing her hero swimmer kennedy, telling us the govct should step in to save all of america from natural disasters and defend bubba's right to get hummers from sexual predator interns

Bballdoc, Wildwest
Bballdoc, thank you, kind sir.


Wildwest, of course, Lilly evidently buys into the liberal dogma. Now, if we're honest, we have to admit there are also folks on the Right who buy blindly into dogma, too.

So then, it behooves us to make a rational case for why we're right, and the other side's wrong. She did raise a good point, which Bballdoc also addressed, that the Far Right is as bad as their opposite numbers; I mentioned this, too.

Your post raises some of those issues very well, IMO. You're dead on when youy point out that liberal policies are actually more harmful than helpful to the poor; LBJ's Great Society has virtually destroyed the Black community's family structure in a mere 40 years. It did more harm, arguably, than anything else short of actual slavery.


wildwest
Whether the policies that Lilly advocates work or not is irrelevant to her. She knows what she wants to have happen and direct action will make her feel good whether it works or not. While the free market approach to raising the standard of living works it is messy and hard and not at all satisfying. It confuses liberals because it is so free and lacking in recognizable direction. That of course is the genius of the free market and why the Leftnuts reject it.

Paul’s money train steamrolls on
RON PAUL DID IT AGAIN!

Paul’s money train steamrolls on

THEHILL-Insurgent White House hopeful Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) is on pace to shatter his own one-day GOP online fundraising record, taking in an eye-popping $3 million through the first 14 hours of Sunday, his campaign said.

Paul, who raised $4.2 million in a single day in November, is poised to eclipse that total. He started the day with slightly less than $11.5 million raised in the fourth quarter, according to an aide. At 2:30 p.m., the contribution total on the campaign’s website said that the total was now $14.6 million and climbing steadily.


WATCH VIDEO

http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/ron-paul-did-it-ag ain

FACTS + RULE BOOK = BROKERED CONVENTION
Bring back the smoke filled rooms or whatever the equivalent is today. It is becoming clear with Huckabee's surge that no candidate is going to get even a clear 30% plurality on the first convention ballot. After the second or third vote fails to produce a compromise candidate from the current gaggle its anybody's guess. Newt could still be President. The delegates are only bound for the first vote or two. Then most will be free to nominate and select anyone they desire. There is no requirement that the nominee run in even one primary.

Sarah!!!
You are SO wrong!

Romney is exactly right on immigration, economy and the social values. He is mainstream America on all his positions.

Don't believe me, go to http://www.evangelicalsformitt.org and see what his real values and positions are instead of swallowing the bull$hit someone has been feeding you. Its making you look stupid.

BrianR
Brian R writes: 1:04 PM
Actually, Lilly
I'll stick to my own considerations on the nature of conservatism, as I outlined here: http://viewfromtheisland.townhall.com/g/b946ac3
1-9455-4f40-9fe8-4f043c0404e5

Great answer you give Miss Lilly, and in the body of your answer. You surprised me with the authenticity of your reply. She calls herself an economic conservative, but gets all tied up in fake social conservatism. I wonder where she really stands on government intervention. Apparently it's good if you're in favor of a position, but bad if you're against a position.

Lilly has many times argued for intervention, and devoted entire posts to the subject. Guess I'm giving myself away that we "sometimes" read her blurbs. Oh well, hope is the last thing you lose before your mind goes.


Onceamarine.....LOL
Thanks!

You should swing by and read my latest blog essay, posted today, entitled "The Christmas Care and Feeding of Liberals", subtitled "A Light-Hearted Peek Through the Looking Glass".

Sorry for the shameless plug, but I had a lot of fun writing it, it's fun to read judging from the comments (and fun to comment on!), and is actually on-topic.

Lump of coal in your stocking if you don't!

It's pretty funny, if I do say so myself... which I just did.


"fiscal conservatives"
You "fiscal conservatives" who don't care about abortion make me ashamed to be a fiscal conservative. Abortion is murder. It is child sacrifice on the altar of convenience and irresponsibility. We have no really great choice. But the reason Huckabee gets support is that he REALLY means to stop the holocaust of abortion. You guys would have been for keeping slavery legal, too, as long as your money kept rolling in. Disgusting...

RINO Nation?
I consider myself a Christian Conservative and for years have waited for another Conservative to come along that was at least comparable to Ronald Reagan. Was he perfect? No, but he was a far sight better than anyone since. Since Reagan has left office, the Republican party has been inundated with RINO's. These are the ones that promise to advance Conservative priciples while campaigning, then act more like liberals after they get in office. Before the RINO's completely gut the GOP I am going to take a stand. Many pundits state that no matter who wins the GOP nomination that we should all get behind that candidate with our vote. I strongly disagree! If Conservatives don't draw a line in the sand now, the GOP wil die a slow death by a thousand cuts. Everyone uses the logic of "if the Dems win we are in big trouble". I don't buy the whole premise and here's why.... If the Dems win we slide towards Socialism at a fast rate. If a RINO wins we slide to a Socialism at a slower rate. Gee, what a chioce!

It's time we stop the slide. Right now in this election is the time we can toss the liberals back to the stoneage where they belong. If a RINO get's elected we lose. If a Dem get's elected we lose. The ONLY solution is to vote for real Conservatives. Now! This election! For 2008!

The way I see it there are only 2 real Conservatives running, Fred and Duncan. Fred has money and organization and stands a much better chance of winning.

Keep repeating this line to yourself "No more RINO's" and it becomes crystal clear.

"Parsoned"... to once again
plug my blog, I believe "abortion" per se is a state issue to decide..... BUT, how do we as a national society define WHEN an unborn baby is a fetus subject to abortion, as opposed to an unborn "human" covered under constitutional guarantees to life?

THAT, my friend, is the issue we need to address, because right now, under Roe, we're being distracted from the essence of the issue.

Here's the link to that discussion; you may find it helpful: http://viewfromtheisland.townhall.com/

then scroll down to "Murder and Roe"


Parsoned
Where the heck did that come from? The best the President can do is appoint justices who will correctly find no right to abortion in the Constitution. That will throw the issue back to the states where it should have been settled in the first place. You should be careful with accusations of the type you make as many here have worn the uniform and stood in harms way to insure freedom for ALL our citizens.

Trulib
The utopian outcomes of The Free Market is a myth. It is based on a libertarian notion that men are for the most part good, that transactions between two people are honest, equal and equally informed and that economic power does not aggregate or clump to a few people. The idea is that "the process" works at a minute level and erases any distortions, producing the best possible outcomes given individuals motivating motivation. That's all balderdash, of course.

In the first place it contradicts the conservatives belief that men are innately evil and sinful. It's just utopian to believe that an economy populated by sinful people will end up with good outcomes and utopian to believe that "the process" will miraculously play off alll the sinful motivations and smooth everything out to come up with good consequences.

Even if you strike a compromise between the Libertain's "man is good" and the conservatives "man is evil" it's utopian to believe in a miraculous process that "somehow" makes everything all right.

Take any other organization: the family, the corporation or the basketball team. It takes goals, guidelines, planning and cooperating to reach good outcomes. You can't have a winning basketball team by telling every member of the team that they are free to do what ever they please and that "somehow" it will all turn out for the best.

Sam: Who cares? All that will happen

is that at the end of the day, ronpaul gets to take home all the money that you and the other paulists have raised.

Important points:

1) Money in the bank does NOT elect a president!

2) Votes elect a president!

3) So far, ronpaul does NOT have the votes!

Therefore....

4) ronpaul will NOT be elected pres.!

5) ronpaul will go home with a lot of money that the paulists raised for him.




A liberal who loves this stuff!
I'm absolutely eating up this stuff, with all the conservatives slicing and dicing each other. There will be enough hurt egos, bruised sensibilities, resentments, and just plain old disgust, hatred, and contempt among the conservative populace to make half of them stay home and three-quarters of them think about it.

With enough ideological and theological angst going down for a Reformation or two, conservative voters won't be sure whether they're supposed to elect a Prophet Incarnate (see Heinlein for this) or a head cheerleader.

In any case, all it will take, if this goes on, will be moderately well-organized Democratic candidate to win the election. So, go to it guys. Kill or be killed. Jungle rules.

Once the religious conservatives were the major voting bloc in this country. Soon they'll fission into several little bitty voting blocs. Divide et impera.

reply to lilly
Who, lilly. Liberals know that the following folks simply ARE conservatives, and their positions define conservatism as it exists now.

You nailed 'em: "the abortion, guns, gays, and God zealots"

Fiscal conservatives are an endangered species; they don't really have a home in the Republican Party now, and someone like SteveL shows why.

At any rate, the sort of "conservatism" that was really about fiscal prudence, deregulation, sound currency, et.al. is about as out of date as 8-track tapes.

Gestell
Gestell: "I'm absolutely eating up this stuff, with ALL the conservatives slicing and dicing each other."

"All"??? Heh! Bet that isNT true!!

Gestell
Gestell to Lilly: "Liberals know that the following folks simply ARE conservatives..."

You SURE about what "liberals know"??? You now speaking on behalf of ALL "liberals"???
Heh.

By the way, I actually agree with the GENERAL point you make in this post. "Fiscal" conservatives are a POLITICALLY endangered species as the Republican party (supposedly of "small govt") is just as addicted to govt largesse as the Democrats.... Cant tell much of a difference... Sad.

ProudLiberal
You throw up a lot of baloney that conservatives don't actually believe and call it balderdash. Well I agree.

TruLib and ProudLiberal
ProudLiberal: "The utopian outcomes of The Free Market is a myth."

So what's new? I believe in the "free market" as the "LEAST harmful way"... not as a "utopian" way of arranging our economic affairs... Bet that is what I think most "Conservative" free marketeers also believe.

ProudLiberal: "It is based on a libertarian notion that men are for the most part good, that transactions between two people are honest, equal and equally informed and that economic power does not aggregate or clump to a few people."

This really is... as TruLib stated... balderdash. I dont know ANYone who believes THIS. The RULE of LAW is ESSENTIAL to ensure that contracts are enforced. NOT because people are "honest" equal and stuff. Sheesh.

ProudLiberal: "The idea is that "the process" works at a minute level and erases any distortions, producing the best possible outcomes given individuals motivating motivation."

No. Again, no one I know believes that free markets "erase any distortions." Nor are we talking about "best possible outcomes." We are talking about LEAST HARMFUL ones.

ProudLiberal: "That's all balderdash, of course."

Yup.

Well, Gestell, dream on
If the GOP nominates a true conservative, i.e. Thompson, Hunter, Tancredo, or possibly even with Romney, well....


You guys are soggy toast.


More Shilling for Romney....
You think everyone is stupid enough not to see what Townhall and Hugh Hewitt are up to? No one for a minute believes there would ever be a Romney/Huckabee, or Huckabee/Romney ticket. This is just smoke and mirrors to portray Rudy's bid as hopeless and pretend the only viable options now are only Romney or Huckabee. At the same time the rest of the articles on Townhall are and endless barrage of Huckabee attacks. All this is aimed at building up Romney and clearing the way for him to gain the GOP nomination in spite of the fact that he's a liberal in sheep's clothing.

We need Huckabee.
If you want a president that will be pro-life and stand up for you against the oppression of the militant homosexual agenda to force their sexuality in your face then you have three choices for President. It is either Huckabee, Tancredo, or Hunter. Thats it folks. There may be others that are somewhat conservative, but none of them other than the three I listed see the militant homosexual agenda as an important issue, and none of them support a marriage amendment. Because of the alliance of liberal democrats and liberal or moderate republicans, California starting in January will now have gender based off of feelings, rather than biology. This means your children are going to live in a world where boys will be on the girls basket ball them, be a cheerleader(in the girls uniform) and be homecoming queen. And that is not all. Starting at that same time, children will not longer be able to refer to their parents as mother and father. That is simply too offensive. And don't think that this is the end of the line. It will go futher and futher. There has already been gay marriage legalized in America in the Northeast. Which has grown and expanded to New Jersey and is still spreading. So if you continue to speak against Huckabee, just remember that you must be a very pro-homosexual person, as well as someone who doesn't care some much about the abortion issue. I am telling you that if you do not acknowledge that these issues are the most important issues we face today, then just give it some time. More and more you will begin to see.

Huckabee the strongest cannidate.
All of these fools who are saying that the MSM wants Huckabee to win because he would be the weakest cannidate are either utterly against any cannidate other than their own, or they are people who do not think for themselves and they let the MSM think for them. It is your fake conservatives that have been saying this. Wake up people.

Think people. Please think.

They are the same people who have been saying that Huckabee would not win anything, then when he was doing well in Iowa they said that he may seem to be doing good but he has no chance of winning, then when his chances got a lot better and he became strongly favored they said that he would win nothing but Iowa if he did when, and Huckabee keeps proving them wrong.

Think People. Please think.

If a cannidate can overcome the odds and can do that well, then don't you think that such a cannidate is the strongest cannidate? Ofcourse he is.

My take on the cannidates.
Rudy Giuliani: Pro-abortion, Pro-gay, flaming liberal. The money republican's dream cannidate but not that many of us are heartless millionares. The one cannidate I am certain not to vote for if he won the primary.

McCain: Not as bad as Giuliani, but that is not saying much. McCain seems to have done more to work against conservatives than for them. I would rather not vote for him.

Romney: Saying some of the right things now, but I am causious that he may just be a big actor trying to win. Alot better than Giuliani no doubt, but I would have to consider voting for him and I don't know for certain what my outcome would be.

Thompson: I'm from TN. But I'm not going to be voting for Fred in the primary. There are other cannidates more conservative, and Fred has been low ever since running. I probably would vote for him if he won the primary, but I doubt it will happen. I don't think you have to be a hollywood actor to get elected anyways.

Paul: Different. Good on some things. Horrible on others. Very egocentric, anarchy type views. Would be great if he dropped some of the horrible positions. Would want to vote for him about as much as McCain, maybe even less.

Tancredo/Hunter: Both of these men are alike and would make a great President and cannidate that I would be glad and proud to vote for. Unfortunately they are not getting the support they need probably because voters think that someone like Thompson or Romney can win and they can't.

Huckabee: My choice cannidate. Huckabee is right on all the most important issues, and cares what matters to people unlike Giuliani. Huckabee has overcome the odds the MSM and fake conservatives tried to lay before him. In the primary for TN I am going to be proud to vote for him.

Bye to SteveL
SteveL writes: Sunday, December, 16, 2007 11:14 AM
"
I won't vote for Huckabee
I don't give a flying crap about "Christian values", abortion, same-sex marriage or any of that stuff. In fact, a number of my friends and co-workers are gays and lesbians If the GOP is going to become the Christian Evangelical Party, it can say good-bye to the fiscal conservatives like me. "If the GOP is going to become the Christian Evangelical Party, it can say good-bye to the fiscal conservatives like me. "
-------------------------------------------

Bye, Steve!
dont go away mad; just go away! And dont let the door hit you in the backside, haha.

give our regards to Barack Hussein Obama.
If Oprah backs him he's probably gay like your friends.

Scrooge.
I saw a Christmas Carol play the other day, and the story of Scrooge kind of made me think of the way that so many of the fake conservatives are talking and acting. They have abandoned the noble pro-life cause, they have gone soft on the issues of the family and pro-family causes, and it seems they have been taking up a greed is good mentality.

I hope and pray that they turn their lives around like Scrooge did in a Christmas Carol.

NEOCON JACOBINS AND THEIR MEDIA HIT MEN!
Kevin has already sold his soul to the devil. He and his establishment friends know that from day one the move was on to stack the deck in their favor. No votes have even been cast yet and they are ready to sell the blood stained Robe of Jesus to the highest bidder.

Sure, they have come up with the TOP TIER CANDIDATES and the SECOND TIER CANDIDATES based on their poll. First they subsidized Fred Thompson with endless Media Coverage to give him name recognition and now they are in love with Mike Huckabee and have had a love affair with him while subsidizing him with endless free media coverage although he has not even raised more than 500 million dollars.

They have ignored and rarely even talk about Tancredo, Paul or Hunter and expect the American people to just sit idly by while they dictate who they should and should not vote for. The American people can see through it all and know this whole thing is a SHAM !! JUST LIKE MOST OF THE EL TORRO POOH POOH WE READ ON TOWNHALL.COM by mostly NEOCON/JACOBIN CONSERVATIVE IMPOSTERS!
GET REAL!!

Huckabee lovefest continues!!!!!
MSM Elitists and Neocon Jacobins continue their lovefest with Huckabee. First it was Thompson and now its Huckabee.

Ron Paul supporters wouldn't have to spend so damned much time promoting his platform on the internet and in the streets if the mainstream media would just treat all candidates the same and give equal time to all. It's sad, but here I am, helping do the medias job for them

Name recognition
has been the dominating factor in both the Dem and GOP races. As names other than Rudy and Hillary are filtering through to the non-political folks who make up the vast majority of voters, the front runners are losing ground, and thank goodness for it. On the GOP side, there is still time for conservatives to make a difference. Illegal immigration, fiscal responsibility, and the 2nd amendment are my litmus issues. That means Fred, Hunter, Tancredo or Paul at this point. There is still hope. Illegal immigration is a factor a mile wide. If it is an inch deep, one of the top tier may hang in there. If it is a strong voter issue, how can Rudy, Mitt, McCain or Huckabee prevail? McCain is already toast. As the RINO feet of clay become more and more visible, Rudy is very likely to be next. Apparently the religious right has settled on Huckabee and is moving him into prominence. He is a disaster in enforcing immigration laws, and just as the issue is hurting Rudy badly, as this becomes common knowlege, it will hurt Huckabee. Conservatives can still have an impact in the primaries.

One last Thought!!
Whenever you look at the debates just see how unfair and really downright rude it is that Tom Tancredo, Ron Paul and Duncan Hunter are hardly ever asked any questions but rather have to stand at the podium while Romney, Huckabee, McCain and Guiliani Hog up all of the time.

I am really surprised there has not been an investigation into how biased and one sided these debates are and how the moderators will not give some but give others the right to respond to some questions if their name is raised. Sadly, its a real sham !! But even the writers on Townhall do not have the courage to bring this to everyones attention...instead they play right along just like the pied piper going over the cliff...

CFR ENDORSES MIKE HUCKABEE
COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS ENDORSES HUCKABEE!!

http://www.cfr.org/bios/13301/mike_huckabee.html

sir aslan
The bias in the media is towards socialism. They pick socialist commie Democrat and socialist light Rebuplican.

Ron Paul becomes $6 million man
POLITICO-Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) raised an astounding $6 million and change Sunday, his campaign said, almost certainly guaranteeing he’ll outraise his rivals for the Republican nomination in the fourth quarter and likely will be able to fund a presence in many of states that vote Feb. 5.

READ MORE

http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/ron-paul-did-it-ag ain

"backed out of "contention"?!?!
The author is an idiot to write such a thing after Ron Paul has the single largest one-day haul in US campaign history yesterday. I've learned from this campaign process that so-called conservative politicians, commentators and pundits are every bit as scared of a real conservative and his supporters as the Dems are, going so far as to willingly participate in a NYT-style, good old-fashioned media blackout.

The idiotic author's point is that this inter-party discourse is healthy for the party, but he fails to see that we're not coming back, we're not joining hands with other Repubs to defeat the evil Dems, and we're sure as hell not voting for whatever hack in a suit the GOP props up there.

'bout time for Dr. Paul to announce that 3rd party bid so we can get to work.

HA HA Hilarious!
His straw polls show he's backed out of contention!

He's won more than half of all the straw polls in the country, and placed 3rd or higher in 93% of them. Now he has more money than anyone and he's out of contention! HA!!

reply to JimmyJoe
Are you really trying to convince me that you never, ever,eever, ever, generalize about anyone or anything in conversation or in writing? That you always, always, always carefully qualify every statement so that you never, never say "all" or "every" unless you have counted all the things you're talking about? Don't you every say "Those liberals...." or "Those Democrats...." Or "Those MSM reporters..."

If you are really a model of quantitative rectitude, I'll expect to see margins for error and confidence intervals reported in your posts.

Here's a holiday greeting: May all your regression models be properly specified.


Gestell
Missed the point... again. IF you did so "rarely" - then no big thing. My prob with you is that you do it ALL the time! (Extreme??)

By the way, I posted a compliment to your post under Mike Adams current article, in which you gave a MOST thoughtful and considered exposition of the "liberal" position regards firearms.

It didnt "post", but I take this opportunity to compliment you on that particular post. It was the best post by you I have EVER read. For OBVIOUS reasons.

A "small" difference, you may say. I say that "small" difference makes ALL the difference. I wish you would write like that MOST of the time. You and I might find ourselves in broad agreement on a LOT of things...

Enjoy your Christmas,
JJ

Sadly
a lot of the TH writers are puffing on their chosen candidate while slandering the rest. Makes you want to yell at them to shut up and sing, but I doubt many of them could carry a tune.

In that case, I wish they would just shut up. If they can't offer reasoned honest comments, just the facts and nothing bu the facts, then stuff it.

I'll make up my own mind without the future McRomney press secretary wannabe Hugh Hewitt telling me Mitt good, Huck bad. Sounds like the "B" side of a broken record produced by the liberals.

It doesn't win votes from engaged citizens, it suckers ignorant sheep to follow the dishonest shepherd leading them to their folly!

Paul Rules
I hope every single candidate gets a few delegates before Feb 5th, so none of them drop out. Then Paul will be the delegate leader before anyone realizes it and it is to late to focus on anyone else.

I am no Paulite either. I support Paul, but the real reason why Paul is important is because he is the only Republican candidate that can defeat the socialists running in the Democrat Party. I read hard-core liberal blogs all the time. NO DEMOCRATS ARE VOTING FOR Judy McHuckneyson!!! But they are scared to death of Paul. They keep posting comments like..."Why doesn't a Democrat vote against the war?" "The money Paul's getting should have gone to the Democrats?" and "Don't support Paul in the primary, he may seem okay, but he is really the most evil form of conservative. He will gut domestic welfare."

And in response, these Democrats just keep claiming that they are registering as Republicans to vote for Paul because they are counting on Paul to drag the Democrats to the left on the war in the general election. Us Republicans have a chance to keep the President Republican past an 8 year term. We nominate Paul, and then rally behind him in the general as the Democrats fail to support their spineless leaders. Then we watch as Paul dismantles this evil domestic welfare system.

The US will always rally in times of war. Here is an opportunity to use the unimportant war in Iraq to dismantle insideous domestic welfare programs.

Paul Rules????
You are kidding right? We vote for a liberal pretend "Republican" so that we can get some of the dem votes? I don't get it. He is wrong on so many issues, I could never vote for him. If he becomes the Republican Candidate I will cast my vote for no one.

We can not live without becoming involved in foreign affairs, I understand that it is sometimes messy, but so is calling the police on a neighbor for child abuse. It is messy, but morally right and sometimes necessary.

Global Warming
I saw some commentary last week, where some democrat pundit was saying that global warming is a losing issue for the republicans. I beg to differ, but that's for another post. My point here is that, like the pundit said, the republicans all seem to be avoiding this issue.

Let me make myself absolutely clear here to any and all republican candidates for President of the United States:

The first one of you who will stand up and, in absolutely unmistakeable terms, call this anthropogenic global warming scam the HOAX that it is, and SWEAR to veto any plan to "stop", "reverse", "combat", or "ammeliorate" "man-made climate change" ...

HAS MY VOTE.

Regards,
Trevor
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