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Wednesday, June 13, 2007
Kevin McCullough :: Townhall.com Columnist
Why 'THEY' fear Fred
by Kevin McCullough
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"They've" been hearing his footsteps for weeks. With each massive rumble the quake of the earth was echoed in their hearts growing more distinct with each stride.

"They" have raised in excess of $50 million dollars; he's barely broken $300,000 to date. "They've" spent a good deal of it, he has yet to spend one dime.

While they have been yammering back and forth at mostly each other and the limited slice of America that is the politically active blogosphere, he took his folksy talk to the massive millions who listen to Paul Harvey. Oh but he's on the blog train too, posting on his own blog site, and leveling the playing field in political commentary by joining the ranks of the op-ed writers across America.

Ardent supporters of the other candidates at first dismissed him. The author of "Mormon in the White House" appeared on my show to bloviate on how Thompson just is more interested in playing talk radio than he is in grinding out the campaign trail.

McCain's folks watched his numbers surpass Romney months ago and thought to themselves, "Heh, he didn't pass us."

Giuliani's folks watched his numbers pass McCain weeks ago and thought to themselves, "Heh, he'll never catch us."

Today - all of the campaigns stand with jaw dropped, gaping at the latest numbers from Rasmussen, and the L.A. Times/Bloomberg polls which show him drawing even - for the lead - for the GOP nomination. And remember - he hasn't so much as given a single campaign speech, held a rubber chicken fund-raising dinner, commissioned the creation of a single television spot, appeared in a presidential debate, or even announced his candidacy.

So what's the draw?

Chalk it up to a heaping portion of old fashioned, southern deep fried, common sense, with more than a ladle full likeability, and topped off with a wink and a smile. He's also tough as nails, and when big daddy walks into the room - everyone knows it.

Yet I think it goes way deeper than this.

Evangelicals like him because he reflects their values and eliminates any need to even attempt to bridge the debate between Mormons and... well... Evangelicals.

The anti-terror vote likes him because while Mayor Giuliani may talk a tough game, nobody on earth thinks you could mess with Papa Bear. (He's even already articulated strategies towards Iran, North Korea, and the future of what is at stake in Iraq were the terrorists to win.)

Fiscal conservatives like him because he has the audacious understanding that in order to keep economic progress moving forward, unemployment at near record lows, highest African American ownership of homes in the history of our nation, etc. etc. - you must reduce not inflate taxes.

Border security types like him because he said what Washington refused to hear on the original debate over the amnesty reform bill in the Senate: "THEY DON'T GET IT! Secure the border through enforcement first, and then deal with the issue of who is here."

He's poked fun at Al Gore by demonstrating fact over consensus on global warming. He has also poked a bit of fun at the president of Mexico for trying to make "his citizens his nation's greatest export." He even called out Michael Moore by puffing cigar smoke right back in his face.

Unlike Hillary who went on a "listening tour" with voters who primarily told her what she wanted to hear, Fred is listening to the Hoover Institution, the Heritage Foundation, and TownHall.com readers.

He is the best communicator the GOP field has had in its ranks since Reagan ran for re-election. He is equally at ease with shoppers from Wal-Mart as much as a state dinner with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. (Who wouldn't be a bad Veep nomination for him.)

If you listen to all the insider talk around the blogosphere, talk radio, and the best sellers' lists you will find strategists who will give you a list of ten reasons why Fred Thompson wouldn't make the best candidate. (Most of the people saying these things of course already have ties or leaning strongly towards one of the candidates already in the field.)

The truth of the polls tells a very different story though.

If you want the toughness of Giuliani but can't take the baggage of cross-dressing, three marriages, anti-marriage, pro-abortion, and highly questionable on judges; if you want clear-headed straight talk of McCain - but without the frantic sometimes pathological mood swings, and someone who doesn't think political speech should be stifled - but encouraged; if you want the radiant intelligence, and clearly socially conservative positions of Romney - but are afraid to be called bigot for not feeling comfortable in voting for him, then for these reason's and a dozen more - Fred's your man!

By writing his weekly op-eds and coming directly to "We The People" Fred is willing to do something that the handlers of all the others have yet to really turn them loose to do - and that is - to give us a real slice of who they are. His communication style alone shouldn't be the reason that people vote for him. But for many they will want to even more so because of it.

At the end of the day if extremists know they will face the "wait and decide" responses from an Obama/Clinton administration vs. the "don't even think about it" presence of Fred in the White House - who do you think the terrorists would fear more?

For the GOP primary voters it’s all about National Security (hear the rumble...), keeping the economy strong (listen there it goes again...), and standing up for the social and moral fiber that makes America strong of spirit - and not just of might (even closer now...).

The rumbling footsteps are real. "They" hear them distinctly, and hopefully for America... soon... we will too!

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Freds the man!
Go Fred go!

Great Article
I am really impressed, I think this article sums up what I have been saying. Fred has the traits we GOP voters like in all three top teir canidates. He is a clean cut individual who listens to the people and the base. He is in all things, a true conservative.

While he has had two votes in the Senate that I do not approve of ( not impeaching Clinton and McCain-Fiengold) I like to remember what Reagan said, "If I agree with you 80% of the time, that makes you 80% my friend, not 20% my enemy"

I think he is the best choice to help get not only the Republican party but also America back on track after 8 long years of Bush. I would like Duncan Hunter to be his running mate but I have hear Huckabee, and the govenors of Alaska and Minnesota suggested too. Either way it will be a good race.

One thing Fred's got going for him
Fred's not a boomer - I think this country's had enough 'leadership' from this country's worst, most self indulgent generation.

I think we'd prefer to take our chances with a guy born amidst the life and death struggle of WWII, prior to the boomers - in other words, a real adult.

Drew
We seem to be on the same page. I'd love to see FDT and Hunter on the same ticket, but I think he would be pressured to select a RINO to "balance the ticket."

Fred voted not guilty on the perjury charge, but he voted guilty on the obstruction of justice charge.

I think McCain-Feingold was an abomination of the kind rarely perpetrated in this country, and Fred did vote for it. I'd like to hear him explain that lapse of judgment in a little more detail. I know he said it has only made things worse, but my objection is based on the constitutionality of prohibiting certain forms of political speech immediately before an election - or any time for that matter. The election funding and 527 issues - which are what Fred was referring to - are less serious, so the explanation he has given is insufficient.

However, I and many other conservatives voted to re-elect the president who signed that bill into law (some say he signed it for political reasons and fully expected the Supreme Court to strike it down). There were far more important issues at stake that would have turned into national disasters under a Kerry/Edwards administration. We cannot wait for a perfect candidate to arrive because none exists. There will always be at least one serious problem with any candidate. I would rather it be a mistake like this (which he acknowledges was a mistake) than something like advocating retreat in the War on Terrorists, declining to protect the civil rights of unborn children, grabbing guns, or raising taxes.

merry_go_boy
I respect your position on U.S. sovereignty, but I reject the guilt by association with CFR that you insist on. I think there are members of CFR who disagree with the notion of a North American Union, regardless of the stated opinions of CFR's president. I haven't seen any evidence that there is complete unanimity among all CFR members on that issue, or any other.

I put more weight on what a person says than the views of his associates. Fred has said that we need to build the fence, enforce our immigration laws internally, and not give illegal aliens preferred treatment for citizenship over those who have applied legally. That doesn't sound like someone who wants to create a North American Union with free movement across our borders. And everything I've read leads me to conclude that Fred strongly believes in American exceptionalism. I seriously doubt he would try to subordinate almost all of our laws to Mexico and Canada.

Loonies?
I guess to them, a "Rockefeller Republican" is any Republican not named Ron Paul.

Fred's NOT the Man!!!!
How many times will the gullible be lulled into supporting a slick neo-Con? Why the rush to put this unproven cheater into the White House without passing the test of the political gauntlet ordeal every other potential would-be presidential aspirant has had to go through? Before following the Mass Media hype to ramrod a Rockefeller neo-Con into office, LET HIM BE TESTED BY THE POLITICAL PROCESS THAT ALL OTHER CANDIDATES MUST GO THROUGH.
This election is too crucial to have the electorate steamrollered again into acceptance of someone not adequately screened by objective measurement. Talk is too cheap and the price too high this time around to glibly accept words of high praise from ignorant people that want their perceived best man in the most powerful position in the world.
In other words, who really is the best person to be in that position? Fred Thompson? I think not! A good actor, yes; a good senator, yes and no for he was too liberal and supported the wrong side numerous times proving to be untrustworthy at a time when we need the most trustworthy person possible. We are in a critical time and can not afford a person who will sink us through wrongful decisions guided by liberal notions and guidance from sources unfavorable to the conservative values we desparately need to have upheld. Saying he will support these values is one thing; however, what has the record been? That is the real key and this is where Fred falls on his face. The facts need to be brought out for all to see; that's the reason we need someone who goes through the process---not someone who cheats us all by coming in late.... The warriors in the fray, battered and bloody, are all put down one way or another in the arena. Then, a new face appears and tries to take the glory without running the race. We've all seen the marathon races where a person cuts into the race two-thirds of the way through, hits the finish line first and pretends to have won fair and square. No way!!! Face reality, my fellow conservatives. Fred is good, but he's not the best. He has not faced the "heat of the day" and his past record does not deserve the highest office in the land. Stop parotting the liberal media who are trying to portray Fred as the best Republican out there. Could it be possibly that we are once again being led like blind sheep into thinking we have got our man---when instead he's another neo-Con set up by a super-sharp enemy that is about to snap shut the last opportunity we have to save our nation from the frantic rush into one-world government envisioned by the radical left liberal establishment?
Is there not another person out there who will truly be like President Reagan? I surely believe so. Despite your doubts, look at the videos on YouTube. Look at McCain; Look at Guilliani; Look at Romney; Look at Hunter; Look at Brownback; Look at Paul; and the others. If you are truly a Christian in deed, and pray, and will be objective instead of biased for your particular pre-conceived candidate; instead, you will come to the conclusion that there really is one and only one candidate that God can use to give our Nation the leadership we desparately need at this critical time in our history---and it will not be Fred.

Ordinary Coloradan
No. At least Hunter and Tancredo are not also.

FRED THOMPSON
It is refreshing to have a potential canidate who is approaching the contest with common sence and respect for the almighty $. How much a canidate raises shouldn't be the main reason for his/her worthiness for the office.
There is alot to be said for Fred Thompson in his down to earth approach to so many of the concerns of the Nation.
Fred says to me--Follow me-- sign me up as a true believer FOR CHANGE IN THE WAY WE FIND AND ELECT A PRESIDENT!

It's as simple as this
I'm with Fred!

stoic
don't you mean...

http://www.ImwithFred.com ?

Wow Nilsson...
You're quite the anti-semite, conspiracist. Keep a swastika under your pillow as well?

Article rings true
The other guys do not have a chance. Out of the top 3, I like Mitt the best but... Thompson changes it all. He is a true conservative, the one we have been looking for. Out of all the candidates so far, he is one of the few who does not need to stand up in a debate and declare he is a conservative as McCain, Rudy, and Mitt have had to do.

Thompson/Newt 08

Fred Bear
Fred needs to get with Ted Nugent and make the song Fred Bear his theme song!

Fred's a yawn, so far
Sooner or later we will get beyond the "run, Fred, run!" baloney. So far he has been lackluster on TV, he's not prepared to answer the tough questions, and I'm sorry, but he looks and acts old and worn out.

Besides that he has some significant negatives like McCain-Fiengold, questionable pro-life credentials, lack of leadership experience, a reputation for laziness (which he proves weekly by refusing to debate the other candidates), and he's a washington insider who pretends to be a populist (with a rented red pickup, no less).

I'm sorry, Kevin, but I need a little more than "he's not a mormon" to justify a vote for him. I'm afraid your piece lays it on a little thick. I seriously doubt anyone is afraid of Fred, to the contrary - they want him to get in so that the hype about him being this giant, formidable candidate can be dispelled.


Nilsson
What's wrong with supporting Israel? We have an ally, armed with U.S. weaponry, in the middle east. Unless you're anti-semite, in which case nothing else would matter to you, many conservatives support a military stike on Iran. They're building nuclear weapons and training terrorists to kill Americans. I say, the sooner the better.

Maybe you're Muslim, maybe you're a liberal appeaser. Maybe you're a political operative for the other side. Either way, you're not going to vote for Fred anyway, so why not go back to the Huffington Post and peddle your surrender to the terrorists there?

So far
While watching the first "Republican Debate" I was deeply saddened by what the "political process" has become. Unlike "Truth First and Last" I find it refreshing that a man that wants to be president would display leadership and judgment by deciding NOT TO PARTICIPATE in the political process as dictated by the rabble that makes up the MSM outlets. The fact that he has already refused to bow to self appointed overlords shows him to be more of a MAN and a LEADER then the shallow wannabees in both parties that would likely participate in a special titled "Political Fear Factor" with host Joe Rogan if told that is the new norm by which the American people chose their presidents.

You forgot one
orlandocajun writes: Nilsson

Maybe you're Muslim, maybe you're a liberal appeaser. Maybe you're a political operative for the other side.
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Or maybe he's just a moron.

SSGTRET
I saw him on Leno. First time I have heard him say anything about what he would do as president.
He impressed me. At least as far as the other candidates go. Kinda reminded me of a fresh, new trick working the corner and all the old, painted tricks are ...looking like what they are...old, painted tricks.

ShoeGal
Now that's just about the most stupid statement I've ever heard. Since when does telling the truth that the Israeli government and their lobby, AIPAC, have an inordinate level of control over our own government, become anti-semitic? It's just fact.

You are following in the footsteps of those who throw this term out whenever they want to shut down conversation.

A real man
this Fred..compared to the pinko drag queen Giuliani.

jcdean
"Fred needs to get with Ted Nugent and make the song Fred Bear his theme song!"

Nah, I doubt Ted Nugent would be interested. You see Ted is very pro 2nd amendment. Fred, on the other hand, has voted for several pieces of gun control legislation. I will say however, that he comes out a lot better than a lot of 'em.

http://gunowners.org/pres08/thompson2.htm

KsReaganite
LOL. Yes, he's certainly better than Giuliani.

Fred Dalton Thompson

If he runs... he wins. And America wins.

Run, Fred.

Hockey Goon
"or maybe he's just a moron".
You hit the nail on the head! Thanks!!

orlandocajun
"Nilsson
What's wrong with supporting Israel? We have an ally, armed with U.S. weaponry, in the middle east. Unless you're anti-semite, in which case nothing else would matter to you, many conservatives support a military stike on Iran. They're building nuclear weapons and training terrorists to kill Americans. I say, the sooner the better."

Because cajun, last time I checked, we were separate countries. Do you have information to the contrary? We have financially supported Israel out the kazoo. They have hundreds of nuclear weapons. Yet, talk about a country who refuses to allow inspectors to view their WMDs, Israel is right at the top.

If Iran was ever stupid enough to attack Israel, Israel could blow them off the face of the earth in short order. I would imagine that Iran knows this well; don't you?

Now, to whether the Israeli government is our good buddy or not.... if they're such friends, why are they SPYING ON US? Here's a 4 part FOX news report on just that:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7545.htm

Our country has no business whatsoever attacking yet another sovereign nation who is not an imminent threat to our national security. This is pure craziness! This type of military action has much more in common with Nazism, than our form of government. I am shocked and appalled.



Thanks Kevin
Helping me to consolidate my thoughts on Fred. I especially like the VP comment. The time it right for the R's to do something bold at the VP. Bush blew it at reelection time by not swapping Dick for Colin (not that I like Colin) or someone outside of the typical profile. To sum up: Fred may not be perfect but compared to the front runners, Kevin said it best.

Looking forward to Fred's summer vacation.

ScottK
"If he runs... he wins. And America wins."

What makes you think that if Fred wins... America wins?

Go FRED Go
I would like to think at the end of the day We would stand with who ever wins the Republican nomination becouse we know Hillary is a fool.

The New Campaign trail.
I like Fred's course of action thus far. If he can campaign on a shoestring and win, it will stand McCain-Feingold on its head and defang many corporate and big buck influence buyers! As I said the other day, I like the sound of Thompson/Blackwell, but will probably support whoever wins the nomination, as the dems have NO acceptable candidate.

In re: Fred's work on McCain-Feingold, my take is that, seeing the groundswell of support and inevitability of its passage at the time, Fred worked to hammer out certain aspects that he and others found most troubling, to make it more palatible. He clearly recognized and recognizes better, now, the shortcomings and questionable constitutionality of the legislation. However, at the time, it was going to happen, with or without his input, and he couldn't do nothing, ( despite his rep as a lazy legislator ). I find his approach to this campaign a clever insight and clear sign of his comprehension of that bill, and its impact. Obviously, he is using this insight in his favor against even McCain, himself!

As to Israel, Liberty et al,there is a publication entitled "Lies" that will enlighten you as to the true nature of the establishment of the State of Israel. I was amazed to find that Jewish settlers didn't just show up the day the UN declared it a State, but had been there for several generations living on land they had legally PURCHASED from the Arab inhabitants, long before the UN came into being. You can either swallow the rhetoric, or you can study the history. I'll choose the latter, thank you, and stand with Fred on this one!

Liberty

As long as a RINO, a left-wing liberal or an isolationist libertarian like Ron Paul does not sit in the White House... America wins.

It's not rocket science.

The Clinton vote
I was dreading a vote to remove Clinton from office since I didn't like the sound of "President Gore". I think Fred did the right thing.

I was stationed at MCAS Yuma duing the whole Monica fiasco, listening to the news on the radio and thinking: What are these dummys doing? Just keep him in office and worry about 2000.

Later, when Algore kept yammering that he wanted to turn us US Marines into meals on wheels, I felt vindicated for not wanting Clinton sacked and I feel even better nowadays with his constant harping about "climate change" and having my nephew tell me that I'm killing polar bears every time I start my car.

As much as I disliked the corksucker Clinton, and could write a thesis on why I do, I think Gore deserves his own hardcover book.

Fred, youdda man.

Why are they here?
Liberty"Our country has no business whatsoever attacking yet another sovereign nation who is not an imminent threat to our national security. This is pure craziness! This type of military action has much more in common with Nazism, than our form of government. I am shocked and appalled".

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So in your mind (?) it’s much better to a righteous victim like the French in WW2? I'll pass on that kind of "thinking".

By that "reasoning" the US was acting like the Nazi Party (in some cases before there were Nazis) when it engaged in the War of 1812, the Civil War, the Indian Wars, the Spanish American War, WW1, the European Theatre of WW2, Korea....


Run Fred Run
ShoeGal writes:
"Wow Nilsson...
You're quite the anti-semite, conspiracist. Keep a swastika under your pillow as well?"
ShoeGal, the peasants always turn fascists in the end. The peasant wing of the Republican Party has had its jocks in a twist ever since "Dr" Ron Paul - the "libertarian" who wants to turn US into a police state - crashed and burned in the debate. Now they are lashing out, the lipstick is off, and the fascist snarl is all too visible.
Fred Thompson is the ONLY Republican that can stop Clinton and the nightmare she will institute in America.

Social conservative?
"Evangelicals like him because he reflects their values and eliminates any need to even attempt to bridge the debate between Mormons and... well... Evangelicals."

Given Thompson's divorce, reputation between marriages as "The Tennessee Stud", and rather poor record on abortion votes in the Senate, it's not clear why he reflects conservative social values any better than Romney. There's a joke going around about how the only frontrunner for the Republican nomination who has only had one wife is the Mormon. This should be cause for serious reflection -- and not just in the political arena.

I'm left to conclude that what you're really saying is that Thompson's advantage is that he won't force Evangelicals to confront their own religious prejudices. But political opportunism is surely not the only reason to attempt to build bridges between Mormons and Evangelicals.

I'm not sure I like the idea of a man riding into the presidency on the back of religious prejudice, whether or not he displays it or engender it himself. Since religious prejudice is a two-edged sword, that's something that should concern us all.


Well said, Kent
There really is no justification to support Fred over Romney when we compare the true record and accomplishments of both men. Romney far outshines in education, life-style, business success, leadership, experience, organization, preparation, work ethic, etc. Fred can speak well with his folksiness and straight-forward speaking style, but Romney is also an extremely well-spoken man.

Many people say that Fred is the "real conservative" but in reality, he is no more conservative than Romney, and in fact may be less so. There really does seem to be a reluctance on the part of evangelicals to support Romney solely because of religion and a desire to support Fred simply because he is not mormon. What a shame.

I like Fred
Frankly, though, I would vote for Fred, Rudy or Mitt against Hillary. McCain, I'm not so sure about. I admire his military service and think he is a war hero, but I also don't like his voting record.

Anyway, if I had my druthers, we'd have a President Duncan Hunter or Mike Huckabee. In fact, given their performance in the debates, I think that either might be able to beat Hillary, and their philosophy definitely seems more in line with conservative principles.

However, bottom line I think a President Hillary would be a disaster for this country. None of the GOP candidates is perfect, but they all have their strong points, and any of them would be better than Hillary.

naleckid
Who or what is the "peasant wing" of the Republican Party?

Black Dog
Yeah, that's what America needs - a guy who "doesn't even think about it...'

McCullough ISN'T saying Fred wouldn't even think about it, he's saying Fred would tell any would be terrorists, "Don't even think about (screwing with the US of A)".

Either you misunderstood this passage, or you're deliberately creating misinformation about its meaning. I prefer to give you the benefit of the doubt and presume the former.

Not Sure About Fred at This Point
I'm pretty oganized in my thinking about the 2008 presidency.

1) Who I would make president if I had a magic wand: Pat Buchanan (and Ann Coulter as VP)

2) Who I prefer of those actually running (or likely to run): Duncan Hunter

3) Who I will vote for in my state's primary:
Probably Hunter, but Thompson if it seems likely that voting for Hunter would give a win to McCain, Giuliani, or Romney.

4) I won't vote Republican in 2008 if McCain is the nominee.

5) If this immigration bill passes the Senate in any form, I may not vote for ANY republican in ANY office in 2008.

My Daddy always said
That you could could trust a man that said what he meant and meant what he said, even if you did"nt like it. That is just an old South Texas thing. Fred reminds me of that. Daddy would just be called an old rancher by some but he knew alot about people.

Care to explain
naleckid writes: ShoeGal, the peasants always turn fascists in the end. The peasant wing of the Republican Party has had its jocks in a twist ever since "Dr" Ron Paul - the "libertarian" who wants to turn US into a police state - crashed and burned in the debate.
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The peasants turn facist?

Perhaps you should do a little research and then come back.

Blbnan-Hockey Goon-ShoeGal
Welcome to TownHall!
Liberty screeches for Ron Paul, so consider the source.

Wait a little while, Fowl Donahue, Liberal Shill, MichelleR and various other Moonbats will find this article and make comments about how mean Townhallers are to Liberals and Republicans are destroying America, YADA, YADA! YADA!

Anyway Welcome Aboard
and
GO FRED!!!

PS Loyal Democrat is SATIRE!

CharlieS and Ordinary Coloradan
I didn't use the term "Rockefeller Republican," but I did mention RINO (Republican in name only). The Republican Party generally stands for conservative principles, but some Republicans are liberal on so many issues that they might as well be Democrats. There are also some Democrats who are mostly conservative and really should move to the Republican Party.

You probably wanted more specifics, but I guess I'd say I know a RINO when I see one. Rudy is definitely a RINO - pro-abortion, gun grabber, pro-gay marriage - but he is good on crime, national security, and fiscal policy. I'd also say that someone can be a conservative and be bad on one or two issues, as long as it's not taxes and spending. That's pretty core to conservatism. It's tough to say that because I think the person must be a little confused (or pandering) to be ideologically consistent on all but one issue. I think libertarianism and liberalism are consistent ideologies, too, although I think they're wrong. To pick and choose issues from various sides indicates a lack of core political philosophy.

I think conservatives have room to disagree on foreign policy. Some are isolationists and some are interventionists (like me). I think most conservatives would agree that we need a strong military and national security, including protection of U.S. sovereignty. We can differ on how to accomplish those goals, but I think the underlying conservative principle is that protection of its citizens is one of the few legitimate functions of the federal government. Libertarians also agree with that, but they think we would be better served by isolationist policies.

I think the neo-con label is being used to slander anyone who supports the Iraq War, regardless of their other ideological positions. My understanding is that it originally meant someone who is basically liberal on most issues but supports an interventionist foreign policy. Neo-con should not be confused with RINO or Rockefeller Republican. Some people here seem to be lashing out and throwing out terms indiscriminately during their incendiary rants. Those posters accuse everyone who disagrees with their positions of being a traitor.

I'm not sure why you two lumped me in with libertarians like Merry Go Boy and Ron Paul, but I'm a conservative who supports Fred. I think Ron Paul has great constitutional positions on many issues - probably better than any other Republican candidate - but he's mistaken in his foreign policy views and he feeds a lot of conspiracy theories like the CFR business.

hackamore
I'm with you: I'd like to vote for Hunter but I think by the time I get to vote a vote for Hunter will only reduce support for the more viable FDT and hand the nomination to McCain, Giuliani, or Romney. If Hunter can't break out of the single digits, especially after Iowa and NH, I hope he drops out of the race and supports Fred.

I'm curious to know why you would punish Republicans if this amnesty bill passes a Democrat-controlled Congress. The Republican-controlled Congress blocked a bad bill last year, and there are enough good Republicans to block this one. Why punish someone like Hunter or Thompson who would veto such a bill? Don't allow general disgust with Washington, amnesty, and certain Republicans to cloud your thinking about the few good guys we do have.

Truth First and Last,
You just about have it right, but don't believe the myth that we have no other choice, nowhere else to go.

Of course, this is a Republican site, so it's natural that most people contributing still think that the GOP will save the day. Not satisfied with the current lot, they now place their hopes in the newest darling of the GOP elites, Fred Thompson.

It is still somewhat unbelievable that so many are willing to fall for the myth that only the two major parties are capable of ruling the country, that for some unknown reason, only they are smart enough, wise enough, whatever.

This is the kind of thinking that has brought us to the state of the union as it is today. How anyone can continue to believe in these individuals, everyone of whom will be beholden to the political machine and PACs that would put that person into power is a great mystery!

Perhaps the nation is insane, doing the same thing over and over again, always hoping for the different result that has not and will not come to pass. Neither party has earned anymore chances. They are both guilty of having stolen our inheritance, giving it away to foreign governments in their pursuit of a New World Order/One World Government agenda.

It is guaranteed that if we end up electing either party's candidate, our nation and our children will have more big government, less personal freedoms, and see increased power to the internationalists who hate America. If anyone out there cannot see this, I have to consider them blinded by the propaganda machine of the GOP and a complicit MSM, which really doesn't care which party has power. They have their hands in all the pots and they perpetuate the lie that we, the American people, who are the rightful owners of this great country, have no other options available.

That is wrong and I challenge all to check out my website, JOEOLIVAFORPRESIDENT.ORG if you want someone with no ties to the political machines, the PACs, the lobbyists, or the corporations. If you want someone who is running a campaign outside of the established powers, someone with no political career to defend, no position of wealth to maintain, then you should reconsider your support for any Dem/GOP candidate. None of them will ever be truly able to stand up to the party which will put them in power, never.

I am the only candidate who would be totally loyal only to the people of this nation, and my Campaign Platform is as conservative as you could want. How many more times are we to trust these same people? Are they really that trustworthy, are they really so much smarter than you or I.

Many who post here have good ideas, show common sense, understand the issues well, and are just as smart as any of the elites!! So then, why think that we have to elect one of them? What is this fascination with a political party that has tossed us aside, ignored our values and wishes, and arrogantly pursues its own agenda? Why would you give any of its candidates your precious vote??

The task ahead of us, if we want to restore the Constitution, rule of law, and will of the people as the principles that we use to govern ourselves as a free people, is to break the hold they have on power in this nation. The way to do it is to DENY THEM THAT WHICH THEY WANT SO BADLY, THE PRESIDENCY.

That is what will get their attention, and that is the way home for our nation. You should visit my website and see how it could happen if only we have the guts and the faith to do the unusual, to shake the power elites around the globe, and bring a challenge to their false pretenses and hidden agendas.

Thanks, Joe

Fred's not part of the game
He's not in the race, he's sitting on the sidelines throwing trash in the race.

He doesn't need to spend a dime on his campaign, the press is feeding everyone a bowlfull of him.

How the heck you anyone know if he is "articulate" He sits at home and writes what he "would have said" at the debate after having days to think of his answers.

I know the man can read and preform a script, but If he wants to impress me, get in and show me what he's got!!!

Right now he is just a "skeeter" buzzing the crowd.

Fred
Why do the democrats fear Fred so much, simple, they have been beaten twice by Bush, a man unable to complete a grammatically correct sentence and unable to communicate logical thought processess. Just think what an individual with Fred's abilities and conservative thought process will do to an inarticulate Hillary, just the thought of Fred next to her on the podium during the speaking circuit makes you smile. Run Fred, Run.

to Truth First and Last
I like Fred Thompson, better than any of the other candidates. However, I refuse to allow any "man" to grab my enthusiasm and attention to the place where I become a fan. The thing to remember, for each and every one of us is this:
"...the Most High God is ruler over the realm of mankind and He sets over it whomever He wishes." ...Daniel 5:21


Duncan Hunter
Americans for Better Immigration rates Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo A+. Thompson, F. is given a C. That's for what it's worth. The main reason I fear Fred is because I always fear phonies. Sure, he's an entertainer. So was George Murphy. So was Sonny Bono. Fred is no Ronald Reagan, but he comes close to being a Jimmy Carter.

A little advice...
zeb hardy writes: Fred is no Ronald Reagan, but he comes close to being a Jimmy Carter.
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Son, I knew Jimmy "The Joke" Carter and Fred Thompson is no Jimmy F***ing Carter.


First off he doesn't have the connections to the KKK that Jimmy had.

Dr. Rice is the *wrong* choice for VP...
--
...but for one reason only, and that's because national policy would be better served with her continuing in office as Secretary of State, directly and indirectly controlling those assets and capabilities that Foggy Bottom's crowd of cement-headed and treasonable Tranzis ("transnational progressives") would otherwise use to devastating effect to degrade American sovereignty and put American citizens and American property in peril.

Considering that the office of the Vice Presidency "...isn't worth a bucket of warm spit," it's the *PERFECT* place to deep-freeze a prominent and potentially troublesome RINO.

As long as Thompson's lymphoma stays in remission (due to those awful, nasty, horrible, greedy pharmaceuticals companies and their disgustingly expensive "wonder drugs" like Rituxan), that RINO Veep might as well have "null-and-void" tattoo'd all over him for the next eight years.
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Fred
Denny writes "I refuse to be a fan" of Thompson. After 6 years of a blase' Bush and the lackluster Republicans in congress, I think it's refreshing to have someone who creates enthusiasm. The reason Thompson has "fans" is, at last, we have a communicator, a conservative who can SPEAK.

Lestat
"I'm curious to know why you would punish Republicans if this amnesty bill passes a Democrat-controlled Congress. The Republican-controlled Congress blocked a bad bill last year, and there are enough good Republicans to block this one. Why punish someone like Hunter or Thompson who would veto such a bill? Don't allow general disgust with Washington, amnesty, and certain Republicans to cloud your thinking about the few good guys we do have."

It's a reasonable question and I don't know that I have a reasonable answer. Partly, I suppose, to make it clear to ALL the Republican office holders at every level that they "are their brothers' keepers" -- that if they have ANY influence with these RINOs that they'd better use it. And to send the same message to the RNC. Partly, just out of disgust, I guess.

Thompson/Hunter

.....Sounds good to me ...The number one priority with the electorate (in spite of what the pundits say) is National Security ...that's why Giulani's numbers are so high ...Fred and Hunter have both said (Hunter has already built a fence) ...securing the border has a high priority ...

.....Forget Condi ...bad idea ...even if she was willing ...whoever wins the nomination doesn't not want to be connected to the Bush Administration and that is all that Condi would bring ...she won't bring women (Hillary has that locked up) ...and Obama will get the bulk of the black vote so Condi would be a big negative for any Republican nominee ...

.....After National Security comes the question of how to handle Bush's tar baby (Iraq) ...anyone who knows anything about war (I spent 5 years in the Southeast Asian Theater - 1952 - 1964) ...knows that Iraq was a badly conceived and badly managed fiasco ...The Bush Administration did not do their homework or else they were incredibly naive ...

.....Iraq has been ruled by iron fisted tyrants and dictators for 7,000 years ...they know nothing about Democracy and could care less ...right now the Sunni ...Shiite and Al Qaeda factions are playing a waiting game ...waiting for America to get out so that the struggle for power can begin ...yes it will be a blood bath ...but that is the norm for that part of the world ...that is how they select their leaders ...

.....If Bush had been smart ... as soon as Saddam was out of the picture ...he should have installed the head of the Army and a military Junta to run the country under our watchful eye and with our support ...for Bush to think that he could create a free Democracy between groups that have been traditional enemies for centuries just by holding open elections sets a new height for stupid foreign policy ...right up there with Jimmy Carters many blunders ...

.....So whoever wants to be President had better come up with a plan that deviates from the course that Bush has charted ...the American public has run out of patience to the point where the Democrat plan for just pulling out (as long as we don't call it surrender) is beginning to look good ...Heck let them kill themselves as long as we don't shed any more American blood in a losing cause ...

.....I personally like the idea of pulling our troops up to the North and building a base among the Kurds and letting Baghdad implode on itself ...then we pick up the pieces and install a secular government similiar to the government that was set up in Turkey after the fall of the Ottoman Empire ... meanwhile our base in the North will give us a platform to keep an eye on Iran .....COLOSSUS

FDT the Next POTUS!! Yeah baby!
that's all.

Go Fred!
Fred is the only one who is running for an office to help this Nation! The others are advancing their careers and power position.

I'm from Fred's hometown and what you see is what you get. He is highly respected whereas people are ashamed and embarrassed by Al Gore. Remember he couldn't win his own state.

Run Fred? Run!
I'd love to see a guy that looks like this as President:
http://members.tripod.com/DarrinV/store.gif

Good Sign
I like what I hear. I have been listening to the TownHall posters hear for a while now and I have seen a strong sign of support for Fred Thompson. I have not seen taht for Rudy, McCain, or Romney. Thompson is the man that 80% of us seem to be able to get behind. That is a good sign this early heading into 2008.

He is smart in how he is running his campign. The very last thing to do is to official declare and get in on the debates. I agree that we don't need Condi, much as I like her. Hunter is my choice but I would be just as happy with Huckabee or Sarah Palin. We'll see who he picks after he is nominated.

ShoeGal
Define "anti-Semitic"

"They" are not afraid.
Mr. Personality, Mr. Good Looks, is not going to
be President and I don't think that anyone
thinks he will be. Some want him to be the
President, but he doesn't have a prayer.

Or..
Or..

In the words of Holly Golightly


"..Fred's a genius..


Stop blushing, Fred.


You didn't say it.


I did."


Quick Note to Buck
Dear Buck, the "trick" is not the person selling, but the person buying.

This is one of the sad ways that the "girls," or whatever, can make themselves feel smarter and perhaps less used.

On a more serious note, I heard that Fred actually believes in States' rights and a smaller Federal Government. He seems to project that "old fashion values" feeling when he is speaking. I really like him.

Another sad thing is when I read the posts and find so many people hating Israel. They are our only friends over there and they have turned that desert that you see in pictures of the Middle East into a verdant and rich country. They gave Gaza to the Palestineans and three months later it is back to slums and desert.

I think anyone hating Israel so much, if really an American, must be unbalanced or not too bright.

Condi the Charismatic
Not !

I'm sorry, just not.

You have to have some pizazzz, even if you just want to be the next Food Network Star.

Fred and Recognition
The best thing Fred has going for him right now is recognition. It's sad, but true, that many voters just pick someone they know. THAT is the main reason Hillary has high polling results. Everyone knows her name and face. And yes Democratic/liberal women support her. Haven't seen a conservative women yet who does so I don't see how she will win. Yeah, very sad but it's how many select a President.

Fred has some excellent ideas, as do other candidates. And yes he is just plain likeable! Fred has no need to rush into the race as there will be plenty of time for the hard questions to be answered and the liberals to try to tear him apart. I like his style so far.

I too like Hunter but he really doesn't have a chance and it's a shame. A VP would be good because he would get the needed face time and we would have a candidate after his term. McCain doesn't have a chance after immigration support. Romney is very personable and I believe he would be a good choice but he is the status quo. Uber rich, handsome, educated, and another "has it all". Maybe we can move a bit away in that direction. If that's a valid reason.

We have to have someone who can beat Hillary and someone we pray will uphold conservative values. It's all we can do. Penalize the rogue Republicans who support immigration by getting rid of those rogues and voting them out of office. THAT will send a clear message to others. Voting for Clinton, or not voting so Clinton wins, would be total chaos for the country and we can't let that happen. Please work to get out the conservative vote in 2008.

Let's give Fred a chance guys. He may or may not be the answer but he definately has alot of what conservatives want and the face recognition the un-educated, uncaring, un-envolved voters need.

I believe
Unlike so many others candidates, Fred Thompson, is a true, American MAN!! Something that has been lacking in our government for a long time.

We see it in our Generals, colonels, etc. But not our government.

For the most part, Our government consists of money hungry, power hungry, effiminate,fit throwning, whining, name calling,cry babies.

Nanna
He's CFR, nanna. Which means more of the same.

Did you see who he chose to stock his campaign with?
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/013/764cbfmo.asp

HockeyGoon
"So in your mind (?) it’s much better to a righteous victim like the French in WW2? I'll pass on that kind of "thinking"."

Who said anything about being a victim? Certainly not me. With the kind of logic you're using, we should just nuke the rest of the world, because someday they might want to harm us.

The fact is that Iran has no military forces to speak of and is not any imminent threat to us. We need to stop acting like we're Genghis Khan and stop overthrowing any government or occupying any nation that we want to, for the sole reason that we CAN. We're acting like the big bully on the block and we're pissing off more than just a few other nations.

Tell me, what do you think would happen if we did Israel's bidding and nuked Iran? Keep in mind that China gets a large percentage of her oil from Iran. Now maybe the fact that China has been using the proceeds from our huge trade imbalance (thanks to our wonderful big government trade agrmts) to build up their military, becomes much more meaningful to you.

Run whomever you like...
It won't make a lick of difference. There is NO WAY the next president is going to be a Republican. It's incredibly rare for any party to hold the office 3 terms in a row, especially when the second term ends on a down note like this one undoubtedly will.

Bush is already a lame duck. The pentagon is admitting that the surge was a complete failure, and the immigration issue is tearing the party apart.

That said, Republicans will probably want to throw someone to the WOLVES, and Fred would be a pretty good candidate, since nobody in D.C. really carries water for him anyway.

MassachusettsLiberal
Are you really a moron, or are you just pretending to be?

Ruining America? In what specific ways are conservative policies "ruining America"? Isn't it really that we are ruining what you think America should be? I say there is no fault in that.

Taking away our freedoms? Which of your freedoms has lately been curtailed or removed by conservative policies? How have you been affected by the loss of freedoms?

Making us the laughing-stock of the world? When you say conservative polices are making us the laughing stock of the world, I assume you mean in places like Germany or France. Then maybe you can explain why both Germany and France recently elected CONSERVATIVE leaders? Or are you not paying attention?

Increasing crime? Show us one example of increasing crime under a conservative administration, which are ordinarily criticized for being excessively strict on law enforcement.

Decreasing incomes for working people? Isn't this just plain silly? What determines the income of any working person? Isn't it the ability to pay more or less depending on sales and performance of the worker? And aren't sales increased when buyers have more money to spend? And isn't there more money to spend when the government isn't stealing it through taxation for the purpose of redistribution? You have your eyes in backwards.

Increasing the size of government? I will concede this point, but being a Liberal you should be overjoyed that the current administration has acted more like a liberal administration as far as size and role of government is concerned. What WE are looking for is an administration that will shrink the size and role of government back to its intended form.

And [we] have not [been] able to kill Osama. Not yet, but we shouldn't have had to. If BILL CLINTON had done his job, Osama would be either dead already or in an American prison. And if JIMMY CARTER had done HIS job, al-Qaeda would never have been created.

Why is it that Conservative Republicans are always having to clean up the messes created by Liberals?

oneway
"Bush is already a lame duck." Every President in their second term is a lame duck by definition, especially in the last two years of their Presidency. The amazing thing to me is how much Pres. Bush has been able to get done lately, despite his lame duck status, and facing a Democrat-controlled legislature.

"The pentagon is admitting that the surge was a complete failure" Absolutely laughable. Only this week did the surge come to it's full complement of 30,000. The surge has only begun.

"and the immigration issue is tearing the party apart." No, the immigration issue is tearing the elitist, out-of-touch leadership away from their base because they are acting like Democrats. In response, the base will vote for the candidate they best feel will represent true, Republican, American values on issues like immigration. The base already knows they will not get relief from the Democrats. This will be an historic, "rare" election.

Because he's a liberal
Old Whig
You just answered your own question:

Why is it that Conservative Republicans are always having to clean up the messes created by Liberals? Because they are liberals. All they do is make messes and blame everyone else.

Just heard a new poll says liberals don't like any of the top 3 chadidates. No surprise there. Even democrats have some standards and I don't think most want true socialism. All 3 of the Dems are walking in lock step. Well Edwards is out there further than the rest but that's expected. Maybe they will run Algore? Fred would make him cry like a baby every debate.

And you are right. After what the Dems have done in Congress after all the promises they made, a Republican will get elected again. It's up to us to make sure it's a good one.

Fred is the man
Yes I'm a FRED man.

Great article. He can trounce anyone in a one on one debate.

He's a true leader. Not a wannabie. Not a RINO either.

I also believe he can trounce Hillary in the general election.

But he has to make it there first. I find too many GOP pundits pushing Guilliani. But truthfully, if Rudy gets the nomination, he's going to lose and lose big.

There are far too many social conservatives who will not vote for Guilliani. And this is a good thing. Social conservatives are being ignored because really, what's our alternative, Hillary?

But they are taking us for granted, and at some point, we have to stand up and say enough. I truly believe RUDY will be the ENOUGH marker.

So I'm going all out for Fred Thompson. We have other viable candidates in the race certainly over Rudy.

So in the primaries, my motto is, ANYONE BUT RUDY.

And if Rudy does manage to get the nomination, I will write-in my own candidate in the general election.
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