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Sunday, May 20, 2007
Kevin McCullough :: Townhall.com Columnist
Bears, Beatings, PORNStar Galactica
by Kevin McCullough
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Halpert: "Question: Which political party embraces the subjugation of women in beyond despicable terms...?"

Schrute: "Answer: Well that depends..."

Halpert: "False... the correct answer is the Democratic party."

Schrute: "Wait... what's going on Jim?"

Halpert: "What's the difference between morally vacuous Democrats, Godless Liberals, and pushy purveyors of porn?"

Schrute: "Let me see..."

Halpert: "Time's up, trick question, they are one and the same."

Isn't it interesting that only a few months ago your humble correspondent points out that Barack Obama doesn't share biblical values as it relates to moral behavior (particularly when someone's life is hanging in the balance) and screeches of contempt raise the ire of "America's Pastor?"(With extra heavy emphasis on the "")

Only weeks ago I pointed out that Barack Obama’s pastor Dr. Jeremiah Wright would prefer to blame white people for everything as opposed to preaching the biblical doctrine of human depravity. In response an e-mailer went so far as to irrationally threaten attempted blackmail to silence me for pointing out... ...the truth.

It causes me to wonder, "Why do liberals desire so much to be measured by biblical standards when it is obvious they do not care about them?"

Take the current affair that the porn industry is having with the Democratic nominees for 2008. This week it's had all the passion of a one night stand. Porn stars, porn editors, and really, really, really dirty old men are just exploding with campaign cash and endorsements for what they consider to be the new DNA of the Democratic field. Perhaps out of tribute to the fallen Jerry Falwell, this week, the Obama and Hillary campaigns competed for the top porn dollars.

It is true that Hillary had a bit of a head start because a month ago the much Viagra-ed Hugh Hefner gave the maximum amount allowable to the Clinton campaign. He hasn't offered to hold a fund-raising event at the mansion for her just yet, but give it time.

The "world's most famous porn star" also stepped up the plate for the first lady, "I would love to have a woman in office. I think that it would be a step in the right direction for our country, and there would be less focus on war and more focus on bettering society." The "Queen of Porn" went on to expound the more pragmatic reasons why she wants Clinton back on top, "The Clinton administration was the best years for the adult industry and I wish that Clinton would run again. I would love to have him back in office. I would love to have Al Gore in office. When Republicans are in office, the problem is, a lot of times they try to put their crosshairs on the adult industry. It's sad, when there are so many different things that are going on in the world: war, and people are dying of genocide...I look forward to another Democrat being in office. It just makes the climate so much better for us, and I know that once all our troops come home, things are going to be better and I think that getting Bush out of office is the most important thing right now."

The sad thing is Jameson is right. Under Bill Clinton there was not a single federal prosecution of porn related crimes, including those involving children… …for the totality of his eight years of being on top.

But Barack Obama was not to be out-porned this week, and in doing so picked up the endorsement of the CEO of the degenerate Hefner Empire - his daughter Christie Hefner. Porn heiress Hefner states that she has publicly supported Obama since 2004. It is also worth pointing out that Hefner's bio reads that in her efforts she has founded three women's rights oriented organizations. Never mind that the business she makes her living off of has turned women into objects for the sheer pleasure of leering, lusting, assaulting, and raping by over-aged adolescent boys.

The problem is, everyone can see the truth of the matter. Liberals and Conservatives are divided by their view of God. Conservatives believe He is, He created us, and His instruction means something to us. Liberals believe that God is either something they control (but if they could He would cease to be God) or that He does not exist at all.

Atheists at least are honest about their contempt for the Almighty. (And His servants.)

But liberal politicians are the worst! They walk into "churches" with big Bibles under their arms, and the next day they take campaign contributions from companies that publish the unseemly graphic nature of the exploitation of women that leaves no other impression but that women can (and should) be degraded.

When liberals ease up on prosecuting porn cases, they bear down on the oppression of women.

When a rapist has been fueling his mind with the details of how to gratify himself while objectifying a woman, and then he acts on such an urge and causes actual mental, emotional, and physical trauma to an innocent woman - the liberals look the other way. Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and any other candidate from any political party that would take money from this industry are complicit in these crimes.

They share the guilt.

And if we elect them... then so will we!

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About The Author
Kevin McCullough is the nationally syndicated host of "'Xtreme' Radio and columnist based in New York. He blogs at www.muscleheadrevolution.com. His second book "The Kind Of MAN Every Man SHOULD Be" is in stores now.

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What? No pictures?
This article would have been much more entertaining with pictures.

http://freedomistheanswer.blogspot.com/

But don't you know
that men are completely incapable of controlling their animal natures? Men tell us that every minute of every day -- it is up to Girls to avoid being seen by men if they don't want to be objectified and degraded. Men are incapable of being faithful to their wives, and will die, die, die if they don't have sex every day.

Men tell us that all the time in lots of different ways.

So why should anyone be surprised that the porn industry joins the unions and the other mob-controlled industries pandering to this uncontrollable portion of masculine nature? You might as well argue that grocers shouldn't be allowed to contribute to campaigns because they remind you that you have to eat every day or you'll die.....

It's the Law of Unintended Consequences, boys. Spend enough time focusing on sex and pretty soon everyone will accept the fact that they have to focus on sex if they want men to pay attention at all.

If I were a man, I'd find that insulting. But instead they jump on the bandwagon and cheer.

Interesting point AudiR
So society should continue to feed this appetite and flood the universe with more and more of this kind of material?

This is pathetic:
"Under Bill Clinton there was not a single federal prosecution of porn related crimes, including those involving children… "

Just as most states have enacted some legislation based on Jessica's law fought for by her grieving father, Mark Lunsford, an act of heroism in my opinion, it's depressing to think of Hillary in the WH with an attitude that would allow these child molesters free reign, if indeed that is her feeling on the matter.

We still need more crack down on the child pornography industry that runs their hideous displays on the Internet. I do hope if Hillary or Obama become POTUS that they will not allow this rot to continue. But, from what you have written, Musclehead, it seems like a dim chance of that happening.

I would like to see all porn off the Internet that degrades women of all ages. Unfortunately women participate in this pornography, but these women were programmed to do this in childhood IMHO.

Once a young child is sexually abused she is forever programmed to believe her only worth is through sexual exploitation. If that sounds strange to anyone, just look at the statistics of women who are prostitutes. The vast majority of them were sexually abused as children.

This is even more reason to prosecute the molesters and get the kiddie porn out of our society for good.

I'm not a violent person, but I wish I
could beat the CR@P out of him for you!

While men cannot avoid LOOKING and SEEING, they are fully capable of self-control. It is the AD AGENCIES that push the sexual themes. Tell me that Brawny paper towels doesn't pander to women.

Men think about a lot of different things: football and other sports, science and inventions, games and computers. But when they get SLAMMED in the face with sexualized images - they react. And they can't help that reaction.

Sex and Jesus
How many words did Jesus actually say about sex? I am far from an expert but I believe he said absolutely nothing. How many words about the poor, love, helping your neighbor? Somehow you radical fundies just seem to miss the mote in your own eye...

"Conservatives believe He is, He created us, and His instruction means something to us. Liberals believe that God is either something they control (but if they could He would cease to be God) or that He does not exist at all." This like so much of what Kevin writes is as close to a lie as it is possible to get without being saved by the odd extreme example here and there. Thank God that the real religious folk are waking up to the fraud you fundie's have played on the religious community.

Hugh who?
Hugh Heifer, or Hugh Hefner? I have always had problems with this man's name. Perhaps because for more than 50 years he has advocated a standard of behavior which most closely follows that of irrational animals. Contrary to human beings, who are supposed to be rational beings. His followers will no doubt also have their full days of Sodom and Gomorrah, with hellfire and all. Barrack and Hillary no doubt are in the right company.

Hef throwing a bash for Hil?
I hope not.

If he does, please don't let her wear a bunny costume!!!

Hey Hal Donohue!
Why don't you go read up on the words of Jesus before you start telling us what our religion says?

I really don't care to have some Leftie Loser atheist ignoramous telling me about Christianity.

I would say that you are allowed to tell me about atheism, but hey, atheists believe in nothing, so I guess you have NOTHING worthwhile to say to me.

So what if you sit in some Libster church once a week? Doesn't make you a Christian. Sitting in a garage doesn't make you a car!!!

I don't get it
Wasup Kevin? You are a good man. Nut I don't think the libs are the blame for porno. That's what you imply? But no. I disagree.

Porno crosses all political lines and all religions or non-religions. As long as people buy it....it will continue.

Incidently, Judges, DA's jurors, Congressmen and Senators do porno as well.

You'll never stop it by blaming one side or another for it.

Hef can throw all the parties he wants. And you can put Hillary in a bunny costume, but she still ain't getting my vote.

The best way to fight porno is to stay away from it and teach children to do the same.

You can use firewall or software based filters to screen it out. But you aren't going to stop it.

The reason why porno continues is because people on both sides of the table...buy it....It corrupts EVERYONE that it touches.

The devil may have made "them do it" but it was their own choices that made them buy it.

This is not a party issue. This is a soul issue.
Blaming one side or another is a waste of time.

nut=but
I hit the wrong key. Minus 2 points for misspelling. :p)

Hal Don
Go back to your Internet porn sites and forget about posting here on this article. Your comment didn't make a lick of sense.

Mountain Rose
and Jesus said what about sex?

Peppermint
And a cheerful Sunday to you too peppermint

Peppermint
As much as I hate to say it LOL patriot got it correct: "Porno crosses all political lines and all religions or non-religions. As long as people buy it....it will continue.

Incidently, Judges, DA's jurors, Congressmen and Senators do porno as well.

You'll never stop it by blaming one side or another for it." Exactly my point all Kevin is trying to do is incite a dying horse, the "conservative fundementalists"

Hal Don
Jesus also said, "suffer unto me the little children".

I don't think he meant that they should be made porn stars do you?

Peppermint
That is a crime peppermint and of course not. Near as I can tell it is a crime almost everywhere. Big difference between Porn and child abuse. Patriot got it right this time.

Peppermint
He also added a warning: "if anyone were to hurt any one of these....my little bretheren...it would be better for him to tie a milstone around his neck and be tossed into the sea."

Hi only other statement on sex was that I tell you that if a man even looks on a woman with adultry in his heart he is equally guilty as the man who actually goes through with the act. I'm paraphrasing but that's the jist of it.

His also mentions divorce and adultry being the ONLY justification for it. Paul added another justification. But Jesus only gave one.


General Eaton
Is on Face the Nation in 9 min if you folks are interested

Hal Don
I disagree that with porn and child abuse there is a big difference. There is a connection.

Little children who are sexually abused suffer horrendous traumatic effects for the rest of their lives. Then they grow up and participate in the making of pornography because sexual exploitation has been a form of programming for them. Adults who participate in this pornography are sexual deviates, all of them as far as I'm concerned.

If you want to have sex, fine, go have sex. But watching others perform the acts is voyeurism. While it might not be a crime it is immoral. All pornography should be banned as far as I am concerned because it does nothing but degrade and debase women, giving men the excuses they need to abuse women and think of them as nothing more than objects instead of persons. Once women are objects in the eyes of men, then any form of behavior towards them puts a permission label on the behavior. After all, women aren't people, just objects like a chair, or a car, or any other disposable object, not something you value.




nolongersilent
Naw...The Clinton political leg-breakers will make sure that never happens. Rodham will get the nod. If Obama were smart he'd start thinking about asking Rodham to be her VP. Cause, that's the closet he's going to get to being the Dems nominee.

My next essay
about porn. Yes, I'm off on a rant.

There now exists places where men can go to help them get over their pornography addictions. These addictions and watching so much porn leads to adultery. As one of the men in the facility said,
"after awhile, watching the pornography is not enough, you then have to go out and get the type of sex demonstrated in the pornography". This led the man to cheating on his wife and losing his marriage.

According to the facility's director, it is really difficult for these men to give up their addictions to pornography with it being so rampant now that we have the Internet and it has become such an accepted form of entertainment in our culture.

Pornography addictions lead men to spend more and more time away from their wives and families, thus eliminating the formation of real relationships of intimacy with them.

Peppermint
Put this link in your essay:
http://xxxchurch.com/07/gethelp/men.php


free society&personal responsibility
To me the freedom to choose means having to take RESPONSIBILITY for your actions good and bad.

Hey create a start-up company in your garage and you can become the world's wealthiest man. Use that device to look at porn all day and you might end up living in mom's garage until...


The choice is YOURS, the responsibility is YOURS. GROW UP and keep the NANNY STATE out of our lives.




I'm sorry but if you want someone to protect you from yourself and no personal responsibility you want SHARIA LAW.

Peppermint
There seems to be a bigger tie between child abuse and catholics than porn from the headlines I see

Peppermint
I respect your rant but I am far more offended by violience than sex or a bare breast

Peppermint
Are things worse now? In the good old days almost every town had its house of ill repute. I would rather address more serious problems. As far as morality goes we are probably "better" now than 50+ years ago. Just my opinion

Satan2Liberals
Yep. Most of what a person is before they turn 18 can be laid at the feet of others. But what a person is after they turned 18 is a result of their own choices.

Personal responsibility and being accountable for one's own actions or inactions is what seperates the adults from the wanabees.

You hit it good.

Biblical Standards?
I’m not sure where this quote Mr. McCullough used came from, but the fact its wrong leaves me to criticize the usage and implication. “Why do liberals desire so much to be measured by biblical standards when it is obvious they do not care about them?"

Liberals don’t care about, much less “desire” to be measured by biblical standards. They only care to use them when tearing down any assertion by those that do care about them.

It’s like the term “hypocrisy”, for liberals the act is an art form. But, they like to it pull out and use it as pejorative when clubbing someone who might actually care about being labeled as such.

Also, suggesting that Democrats objectify women is redundant. Everyone in this country is an object to them.

As for the party throwing Hef, he tried to pull off a fund raiser at the mansion for Democrat Congresswoman Loretta Sanchez a few years back and the Orange County Register went nuts. But it wasn’t until local TV picked up on it that she declined the invitation. Hefner went ahead with it, without her attending. I can’t recall after the flap blew over if she still took the money. Either way, the waters were tested and Democrats discovered the monetary power of another attractive constituency.

In response to those weighing out whether porn is the cause, effect or a natural byproduct of technological advancement, it is reflective of society. My wife complains that I’m addicted to the computer. I use it for my job, my entertainment and for my participation here. I’m unable to resist its alluring power to stimulate me. If it becomes such an incentive that drives me to neglect my family, violence against someone/group or denying my God, that is my problem, do not invade my privacy to enjoy it as such.

Greg the Californian
That was a pretty good essay. You wouldn't be Greg Laurie would you?

patriot11C
Thank you, no; I’m just a guy with a keyboard and a cup of coffee. Greg Laurie has far greater responsibilities on Sunday morning.

Greg the Californian
I like your style. I got my coffee cup too. Here's to you. Cheers.

Point/Counterpoint
Wow, I was surprised to see myself agreeing with much of what Audi wrote today. Though my point and hers are a little bit unrelated, it somehow does buttress what I see here on the porn vis a vis conservative and Christian issue.
The church, and what do women want?
In the church it seems we rail on and on about societal ills, porn, gays, abortions, these are the (non)sacred cows of today's church. There are many reasons men look at porn, though audi hits the most basic. bear in mind a reason is not an excuse!
Anecdotally I sat through the marriage seminar His Needs Her Needs at my church with about a dozen couples. When the topic of man's number one need (survey of 40,000 says) being sex came up, it was met with universal disdain, venom, and vitriol from the women, all ages and length of marriages. The grocery analogy fits. What are the men to do? I do not suggest porn, I suggest self control, which in these cases leads to huge self sacrifice...a Christian tenet. But there was none of that suggested among the womens needs, indeed the men were to jump through instinctive hoops to accomodate for example the wifes endless need to emote. Ok fine. It is a little bit of a set-up for a weak man to look at porn you must admit. Again, reasons not excuses.
A church I know has a pastor whose wife looked in his history online and found porn. The guy condfessed to the church and beats himself up for years publically. Here our ability to seperate events gets questioned....we need to ability to not be relativistic. No one, to a person, asked why the wife felt compelled to look in the history. That too is symptomatic of a problem with her...2 people, 2 problems, linked but not related.
Begs the question, what do the women in the church want? Answer is simple...every flipping thing, and in not getting it, for the church to support them as they unilaterally destroy the family in divorce. But we will focus on the porn and the bad men, and men will go off to Promise Keepers conferences to get "fixed" while the women sit self rightiously home satisfied their man will be better...in her eyes.
How does this relate to Kevins article? He is a symptom of the problem in the church (most churches), that being rampant divorce at rates much higher then outside the church. The church puts together programs to treat the men, fix them, and to support the women and they patiently await a better man at the hands of an oblivious pastorate.

Hillary a Playboy Centerfold?

.....Gasp! ...sorry I just awoke from a terrible nightmare where Hillary was the first President to be featured in Playboy .....I'm going to have to lay off those jalapenos and sauerkraut sandwiches before bedtime .....COLOSSUS

Peppermint
Under the Clinton administration, there WERE plenty of prosecutions for obscenity laws.

conservativation
What the hey? Sex was met with disdain from the wives of these men? Oh, I don't believe that for one minute.

And, if it's indeed true, perhaps the men should ask themselves why they don't turn their wives on any more. Men fall way short in knowing how to get woman into bed for sex. It's really very easy. Men should take some lessons on it and then they would get more sex from their wives. All it takes is a caring and loving attitude. Women love to be cared about, receive compliments, get little gifts, not costly ones, just little I was thinking about you. These kinds of things make wives drool.

But, no, men get accustomed to just demanding it like cavemen, me man, want sex, you do it with me. A real big turnoff.


Peppermint
Love it when you talk like that LOL

Hal
So what's so funny about what I said?

Hal
Yes, respect is a major factor. I should have put that one in there. And, I don't want to sound sexist, so I need to add that women need to respect their husbands too.

And, I agree I see a lot of lack of respect in marriages too. It's really sad because it takes so little effort to say something nice to your partner, to give that hug and kiss and tell one another I love you. What is so difficult about that.

I just know from having talked to hundreds of women throughout my lifetime, that they mainly get turned off by not hearing anything nice from their hubbies, by not ever being treated in any special way like they were when the guy first started dating them.

Also, I know that most women, but you won't hear this because they won't admit to it, but if they know their husbands are watching porn, they feel humiliated as if they are not good enough, pretty enough, young enough, etc. The average woman does not look like a porn star, so if your man is looking at that more than their wife, it appears to the wife that he wants something other than her. Now, maybe that is a misconception, but that is how it comes across.

Men may or may not know this, but women actually talk about sex a lot. But, we don't usually let men know that. LOL

Peppermint
"Men may or may not know this, but women actually talk about sex a lot. But, we don't usually let men know that. LOL" A course I took a long time ago analyzed graffetti in restrooms. Men's rooms comments were far and away political; Womens room far and away sexual. Me I am lucky for two reasons. One, wife has poor taste in men and two, I have to scramble to keep up with her LOL

Hal
Lucky you!

I don't know about the graffiti. I don't usually go into those kinds of public restrooms for fear of other things. LOL

AudiR10 of 7:25 am
Lighten up. The abusers and degraders of the opposite sex come and go. They are almost never happy. By and large, men like women and women like men. Normal people find happiness in expressing their likes and preferences. The porn industry and prostitution thrive on the fringes. Most women are not prostitutes and most men find purchased sex unecessary for the most part and unsatisfying when sampled. Railing against the activities of losers at the game tends to obscure joining the winners. The losers are more to be pitied than censured -- or joined.

gently99 and peppermint
Good job. That was pretty good.

Peppermint: "But, no, men get accustomed to just demanding it like cavemen, me man, want sex, you do it with me. A real big turnoff."

That was a good line. Hate to say it. But you are right. (while doing my best Tim Allen grunt)



rape
--When a rapist has been fueling his mind with the details of how to gratify himself while objectifying a woman, and then he acts on such an urge and causes actual mental, emotional, and physical trauma to an innocent woman - the liberals look the other way.--

What BS, it is a lifetime of sexual guilt and sexual inhibition caused by threats of an eternity burning in flames that causes people to go and hurt women, as well as, a mentality that women are worth less than men, have no sexual needs, are the cause of all sin, etc. This is why sweden is having a rape crisis. Muslims are coming into the country and raping swedish women.

Peppermint
John Gray has coined millions telling women want men want and men what women want. I am a fan of his. Even with lots of practice, it takes a level of awareness and empathy that does not always come naturally to follow his advice. Women tend to treat men like they themselves want to be treated, and men make the same mistake. It takes education to keep the wheels greased. Love and good intentions are not enough if you don't know how to show it. Example: I tutored an old girlfriend for a math test and i could see she was in pretty good shape. When she said she was nervous, i assured her that she knew the stuff and would probably get at least 90. WRONG! She was looking for acknowledgement of her fears. Later, she told me how crushed she felt. If i had been in her place and felt apprehensive, i would have wanted an opinion of my chances. It is a canard that men don't communicate. Men communicate on matters that concern them. Women(naive women)often seem to expect men to open conversation on subjects important to the woman. Just becassue women are mind readers, don't expect men to pick up the knack. Its tough enough to pick out the final four.

Peppermint
"I don't usually go into those kinds of public restrooms for fear of other things." LOL understand and in all honesty I never bother to check the accuracy of the study. But being on the road a lot for truth, justice and the American way I see the inside of a lot of restrooms

because not becassue
proofreading does not come naturally to us egomaniacal masculine persons.

gently99
Nice posting but isn't porn the largest segment visit wise on the internet? I am not sure...

Hal
I feel sorry for you having to use those restrooms. But do you also go into the women's side? I am just curious since you seem to know what graffiti is in them.

Actually, I have only seen graffiti such as hearts with Jack loves Sally kind of stuff in those restrooms I have had to go into out of absolute necessity.

Other than that I haven't seen much vulgarity.
Just adolescent kinds of things.

patriot11C
I hate to tell this story but I actually had a guy say that to me one night coming out of a club. I thought for sure my ears were deceiving me. I looked at him like he must have fallen from some alien planet. I asked him to repeat what he had said and sure enough it was what I heard.

Needless to say, my girlfriends and I laughed ourselves sick for months over that one.

Peppermint
Touche' The ladies side data is from that old study but I guess I could ask a female who is with me? It was just an aside.

Guy side has political BS i.e. stop war etc and call xxx for a good time sometimes LOL. You are right though kid stuff

gently99
Now, if I had been your student and you told me " i assured her that she knew the stuff and would probably get at least 90", I would have been thrilled to hear that and would have taken that as a positive. And, I would have felt better, knowing I was going to ace the test.

So, I wouldn't lump all women into one barrel on this stuff.

Hal
Ask your wife. I guess she might know. But, yeah, it's just adolescent stuff and we all know how goofy teenagers are.

gently
I know that men basically want to "fix" a problem if a woman talks, so now I never get upset with them over it. They (men) can't help themselves.
If I just want to talk over a problem and bat ideas on how to work the issue, I talk to my women friends for that. That's all it takes.

You really can't change either sex since each is programmed differently. So why fight it?

I always say get your needs met by the appropriate person. If talk is what you want, call your girlfriends. If you want something fixed, call your boyfriends. LOL

Peppermint
I am now very scared I agree with your above statement and (brace yourself) I agreed with a statement by MyOpine just earlier. Scary very scary LOL

Hal
ROTFLMAO! I bet that does scare you.

Hal
Aw, you know we could all get along better in this world if we could all just accept we are made differently, men and women I mean.

It's just the nature of the beast. Why keep trying to get something from someone they can't give you?
Like women trying to get men to understand their issues? Forget about it. It's not going to happen.
It's futile and a waste of time.

A woman can get what she needs instantly by yakking with her girlfriends. I don't have time for that stuff any more.

Now, all I need is to find me a man who is willing to fix some things around the house for me. I'm an excellent cook if there are any takers out there. LOL


Peppermint
"Aw, you know we could all get along better in this world if we could all just accept we are made differently, men and women I mean" but not at all so black and white I hear gay guys are better than girlfriends from my lady friends LOL.

If you are looking for one of those guys get over to Huffington lots of them. With the added bonus you guys could argue all day too LOL

AudiR10
Wrong again...

"But don't you know
that men are completely incapable of controlling their animal natures? Men tell us that every minute of every day -- it is up to Girls to avoid being seen by men if they don't want to be objectified and degraded."

No, MALES are completely incapable of control. MEN control their base desires. "Oppressive" rules are passed to keep females from being seen by males because most females do not have any sense, and as you've made evident, cannot distinguish between a man and a mere male human.

Females think they can walk down a dark alley or a brightly lit street stark naked... that that is their right... and that males must not even be tempted to court them... unless they want to be courted. The cruelty of this view is totally lost on most females.

Imagine an otherwise good and obedient dog. Imagine strewing his path with fresh, juicy raw steaks. Now imagine requiring this dog to never ever touch one, or even give more than a glance at one. Add to this images everywhere of other dogs enjoying even juicier steaks than the ones he sees everywhere. He's a good dog, an obedient dog who doesn't even try to gobble the juicy steaks around him. What's his reward?
He gets to watch while some worthless wild dog takes a lick of every steak in sight, and be rewarded by being fed half the steaks he licks.

Add to this that it is the steaks who get to decide who can lick them and who can eat them, and you get a fairly accurate metaphor to the twisted society today that insists that women can flaunt their bodies however they want, and men must be robots, only responding when a response is desired (and being able to psychically tell when that is).

It is no coincidence that the rise of idiotic social policies in this country has paralleled the rise in the influence of female (in)sensibilities.

Exit Question: If female humans are indeed equal to male humans... what have they to offer male humans? Take sex out of the equation, and in all other ways make a female a male... and what can she offer that I can't get (probably better) from males?

Peppermint
Look at jdw above I rest my case. Smooth talking devil isn't he?

Great Quote
"New Rule: You can't send the National Guard to Iraq and then claim it's still here. The helicopters, the Humvees, the men... Like Dorothy and Toto, they're not in Kansas anymore. Sorry, Mr. President, but the last documented case of a National Guardsman able to be in two places at one time...was you. "
---Bill Maher

Hal
LOL, I love the steak analogy. What is up with that guy? Gone off his rocker.
And, no, Hal, I'm not looking for some gay blade.
I like real men as a matter of fact. The more macho lover he is the better.

Aw Hal
Did you have to ruin the fun by quoting that cretin Bill M? Ugh!

Hal
I am not certain what case you are resting, but if you are implying jdw has exemplified your opposition, your case is pretty safe. However, responsibility is a 2 way street. MOst women manage to look enticing without enticing -- a fine line, but most of them manage it. Most men manage to show appreciation without claiming good looks are an invitation to rape. Still, there are those who haven't the knack, skill, forebearance?...to know how to play the game so there is a minimum of collateral damage. There are pitiable victims on both sides. I think it is significant that almost all societies have relatively artificial strictures in place to prevent youngsters from getting too serious too early. So much hurt can happen when cruelty and/or foolishness are part of the game.

Peppermint
The last thing an old dog like me would EVER do is lump women in one barrel. However, if you happen to know someone who has done it, would you please let me know where that barrel is?

Peppermint
"I hate to tell this story but I actually had a guy say that to me one night coming out of a club. I thought for sure my ears were deceiving me. I looked at him like he must have fallen from some alien planet. I asked him to repeat what he had said and sure enough it was what I heard.

Needless to say, my girlfriends and I laughed ourselves sick for months over that one."

Wow, what nerve eh?

Peppermint
Sorry to ruin the moment I just got the quote LOL. Huffington has a lot of much younger versions of this macho man here LOL

gently99
I was resting a case I made to peppermint. Look to use a pun does a steak ever force you to eat it? Actually few industrialised societies are as hung up on sex as ours. Is it because of the religion thing here?

patriot11C
Yeah, it was the heighth of nerviness.

This guy was bothering me at the club. I was basically ignoring him because he kept saying something about going home with him. It was so loud I could barely him anyway. So, he told me he would wait for me out in the hallway. All the while I'm talking to someone on the other side of me.

Never thinking this cretin was serious, there he was waiting for me out in the hallway. That's when he told me, "you jane, me tarzan, let's go .....you can fill in the blanks.

I will say he was a pro football player and perhaps he thought that entitled to him to the services of any woman he had chosen for the night. It was absolutely unbelievable.

Peppermint
Your insight that men are fixers is quite right. This is one of John Gray's big points for women. Likewise he advises men to keep in mind that women like to bring their problems and solutions into daylight. Any advice is counter-productive. A man's best friends are Uhh huh, i think you are right honey, What do you think we ought to do now? I don't see how you put up with (fill in blanks). A few minutes of this and next thing you know the guy gets complimented for being so wise and helpful. I remember clearly the first time i did this and it worked. I could hardly believe it. Another great rule is never walk out on a situation to give a woman space. If she needs it, she will walk out. If you merely stand there looking stricken at some situation, she will find some way to improve the situation so long as you are part of it. Life is just one big lark. And no one ever really loses the battle between the sexes. Its too much fun consorting with the enemy.

Hal
I don't know what case you were making either and what are you talking about with the HuffPo thing?

I told you I'm not interested in gay blades. No matter what age they are.

Peppermint
Huffington Post does have many macho straight guys was the point I saiwas made after the steak guy made his cool remarks LOL. But know I am just teasing you LOL

And gently99
I think you are enjoying the game too much. Ha! Ha!

Well, you're right, if a man is actually listening to the woman and saying the right buzz words, but we know when you guys are faking it.

Hal
yeah, I know you're just joshin with me. That's been the fun of it. Sometimes it's nice to take a break from all the sturm and drang.

Peppermint
"Yeah, it was the heighth of nerviness. "

Good grief...a Pro Football player no less. Well good for you for standing your ground.

Hal
An interesting question. I think it may be a matter of a culture and economy that provides lots of free time. "Idle hands are the devil's workshop" kind of thing. Its a well known military axiom that nothing ruins a military unit faster and more surely than free time. An officer who can keep his troop busy without them thinking its busywork will go a long way. Preoccupation with sex, and weird man/woman relationships tend to become more common as money, narcissism and idle time become more common. Hollywood leads the way. But the very freedom of information, especially for young folks too young to know what to do with it, destroys young innocence. Its a good question.

gently99
I know this will surprise you but I don't have a clue LOL

This Macho Guy
It is time to wander off. Have a great rest of the day and be well. Thanks as always for the hospitality

patriot11C
Well, you know these athletes think they are entitled to anything and everything. That was the mentality I saw. The place I used to go these pro football players came in every so often and you wouldn't believe how the women just fell all over them.

So, if a woman doesn't fall over one of them, they get demanding. I just laughed in his face actually.
It was so absurd to me that's all I could do is laugh at the time. I didn't even feel insulted because the inanity went beyond that.

Bye Hal
Have a good rest.

Peppermint
Dive into it? Are you kidding? I want to know where it is so i can stay at least a hundred miles away, 'cause if i ever got closer my wife would........i don't even want to think about it.

And of course true concern can't be faked. However, little supportive remarks are easily interpreted as caring, and fixes are often interpreted as put downs. And the ladies also try faking it, but i've never known a man to admit confronting the woman involved.
We do have an expression known as a "mercy .....".

gently99
Oh dear.

Let me ask you a question since this column is partly about porn. One of my girlfriend's told me she caught her husband buying porn through their credit card. He has racked up several thousand dollars doing this. She confronted him, but she doesn't know what to do about it.

I told her to just use it to her advantage, like the next time he complains about how much her make up and shoes cost, just tell him that since he can afford so much for porn, surely he can afford little things like make up and shoes.

What should she do if anything in your opinion?

Peppermint
I know some women that would laugh in his face and some that would have slapped him...but good.

Machismo is not entitlement.


peppermint
I counldnt care less if you believe me or not...I certainly have no illusions of converting a bunch of strangers on a website to my set of beliefs.
You demonstrated exactly what I was saying by answering me with an "if then" statement about marital sex. And to be clear, I've no complaints in the real world about my wife...I was recounting what I heard in that class....no joke.
We can go round and round, if he gave the little gifts, if she respected him, if he was a romantic guy, if she blah blah blah....when from a christian perspective, and in the marital model outlined in ephesians and elsewhere in Gods Word...I dont find a single condition on either spouse towards the other, and you'll hear the Christian gals getting conditional far more than the men. thats what I heard, that was my point. Thanks for making it.

peppermint
Have her show this site to her husband:


http://xxxchurch.com/07/gethelp/men.php



Peppermint
Your experience with the ball player is right on point with jdw. Some men are "trained" by forward women to expect all women to roll over, and some think women are just being cute when they say no. Hasn't been too long since a major BBall player found hinmself charged with rape by a 19 year old who went up to his hotel room after midnight for a "nightcap". I've been an assistant teacher, 7th grade, since i retired a few years ago. We have a constant problem with forward girls who initiate getting physical, and then the boy thinks thats what all the girls want. Right. He lumps them all in one barrel. Its been a problem since sex was invented, and there is no substitute for judgement and common sense. It must be adults who demonstrate these becasue its the last thing you find from a 12 year old 7th grader.

patriot
Thanks, I'll do that.

gently99
I get your point. Too bad that men think just because some women behave that way, that all women will. Isn't that kind of strange?

I mean, just because this ball player acted like he did I didn't suddenly think all men are like that.


Peppermint
You're welcome.

conservative
I don't even know what you're talking about there in your last sentences. And, I really don't care either. I have been generally using a bunch of humor here today. So, whatever I said probably does not even mean much, whatever I wrote to your comments.

Sorry I offended you so much. Didn't mean to.

Peppermint
The guy spent thousands of dollars on porn? Why when I get a spam it says "50 porn sites, passwords $1.99/month" That guy must be seriously a fast looker!
Or,

Its an e"xx"agerative load of crap that is symptomatic of what I mentioned in my first post...a seperate problem, his problem and her problem. He may welol have looked, and purchased, and that stinks, but it darn sure sounds more dramatic in the thousands doesnt it?


Peppermint
Okay...sorry, over and out

gently99
gently99, You're 5:40 PM post was well said.

conservativation
Wow, you must have a really crummy ISP? You can filter that crap out in Outlook if you want. I got Outlook 2000 and got my junk filters tuned to the 9's. Not quite as good as a software solution such as ihatespam, but it is faster than a 3rd party solution.

Late to the party
But I read all the comments.

Peppermint, I believe that the reference by Hal to "gay blades" was meant as a suggestion for finding more girlfriends to yak with.

The lovely Mrs. Paulie has an assortment of gay friends that do more chattering with her than almost any of her girlfriends.

What doesn't surprise me is that Hal suggested that your best opportunity to meet said blades was at the Huff post.

I'd expect nothing less.

Filtering out unwanted porn
Just another suggestion, as a last resort, call your ISP, complain about all the unsolicited porn or spam and ask them to cancel your account and give you a new email addy.

ISP's don't care, they just want your business. It's nice to watch your inbox go from 75 - 80% spam to 0% spam in one fell swoop.

Earthlink has parental controls and an automatic
mechanism for getting rid of junk mail. You never have to see it.

Just a suggestion.

Yeah, I don't
get spammed with any porn stuff thank goodness. Usually your ISP filters that stuff unless you've been going to sites, then you get bombarded with them. That I found from another friend who's husband was into porn. They were getting spammed something terrible and here she finds he's been visiting all these sites, they attach a cookie to your browser and boom you're in a mire.


Yeah, me too
What drolmorg said, that happens to me all the time.

It's just wrong...

Peppermint
Just noticed your porn question. I am at a loss. There are so many things that could be happening. With some men, porn is like the difference between watching little league and watching the majors. There is a fantasy aspect to almost all sex, ranging from none to a lot. If he is heavy into fantasy, porn could be more fun than the real thing. The sexiest thing a woman can do is enjoy sex. Some women don't and that means trouble. It is almost impossible for a man to stick to long term monogamy in this case, even if he is most or all of the problem. Porn could be his most benign escape. Or she could be the hottest mama ever born, and he has hangups that he can't handle. There are so many little twists and turns to sexual gratification, some benign, some not. About all i can suggest is she have a long non threatening discussion in as masculine a fashion as possible. That is, no tears, no girlish reactions, as unpersonal as can be, like a therapist who's seen it all and just wants to know what's going on. Do nothing with any info gathered until its been slept on. Then its time for your friend to ask herself what she wants, what has she got, what will she settle for, and go from there.

Does anyone find it odd...
That the "Queen of Porn" likes Dems because they do more for society - rather than focusing on war.

But doesn't like the GOP because they focus on the adult industry...

And the Dems didn't do anything against the porn industry for 8 years.

and then complains about things like war and genocide.

Here's the rub
1. Why should anyone take political advice from the "Queen of porn"?

2. Follow me on this. Feminists are very liberal and whole-heartedly supported Bill Clinton when he ran for President. Twice.

Feminists also say that pornography depicts hatred of women.

So how did Slick Willie stand up for the feminists who helped elect him? He took Porn's campaign contributions and never made a move to protect feminists, or any other women, from this industry that thrives on "hatred of women".

3. It's not surprising that the Clinton camp would take Porn's money and disregard virtue, but what's with Obama? Is he going for the sleaze vote, or is there so much money in porn now that it can buy the White House?

drolmorg
Women are very sensitive about whether men are attracted to them.

If you don't try to get physical with them they figure there's either something wrong with you or something wrong with them.

This doesn't mean they want just any guy groping them, but if they've accepted your invitation for a date there's a high probability that they're willing to get physical with you and may be hurt or disappointed if you don't reciprocate.

Peppermint
"Yeah, I don't
get spammed with any porn stuff thank goodness. Usually your ISP filters that stuff unless you've been going to sites, then you get bombarded with them. That I found from another friend who's husband was into porn. They were getting spammed something terrible and here she finds he's been visiting all these sites, they attach a cookie to your browser and boom you're in a mire."

There's cure for that too. What I said and what you said. Stay away from the stuff and you'll be free from most of it. Use a filter if you see it.

Or can the spam by changing email addys. Use an alias when going to untrusted sites to buy something. Read the fine print in the site's Internet Useage docs. Maje sure you see a locked lock on the bottom of your screen when making an internet purchase. But by all means stay off the porn sites.

Divorce any man or woman who won't.


Follow the money.....
I think almost everyone here is missing the fundamental issue. Porn is about money, pure and simple. it's not a conservative or a liberal issue, it's a money issue. it also has very little to do with religion. Porn is a 50 Billion dollar a year industry, that's more than all professional sports...combined. that's billion with a B. Why does the porn industry contribute to liberals? i would think it would be very easy for most of the conservatives on here to understand, money. liberals have shown very little propensity to inhibit the industries income. Why do we vote for conservatives? because they like to keep their hands off of our money. dry up the money and porn will go away, not until then. would it make any sense for them to contribute to an idealogoly that wants to shut them down? Sorry Kevin, this is pretty much a non-issue. Industry will always contribute to whoever they think will advance them monitarily as will individuals. It only makes good sense. isn't capitalism great? Thanks.

Jameson is funny
Jameson is actually very funny, besides being very pretty. She became the straight woman to columnist Kevin McCullough when he wrote "The Queen of Porn went on to expound the more pragmatic reasons why she wants Clinton back on top."

Oh, what a set up. She would love to have "him back in office."

I think that Clinton always was on "top" while he was "in office."

Make note: ask Monica about this.

One thing to remember, though, is that Jameson does not need to use her head very much for her work. Therefore it gets very little exercise in clear thinking.

Otherwise, she is a picture of perfect health.

Wiseone, Drolmorg
Wiseone, your explanation of women grabbing the ..er initiative on a date explains many cases. However, i believe its usually merely doing what works to get what you want. Women who date are looking for a solid supportive relationship with a decent guy. They know very well they may only get one chance to move this possibility forward. They can make the decision to initiate sex just to increase the chances they see the guy again. There are lots of other reasons, including the best one, which is they want to. Any lucky guy in the right place at the right time is truly a lucky guy. The only down side to these encounters is the notion can depart as quickly as it arrives. The challenge for both sexes is to do what turns on your partner. This is not easy because people are different and moods are in flux. I have been turned on and turned off by forward women. Turnoffs seem to be correlated with a challenge to perform, although sometimes that's a turn on. Go figure.

Who keeps flagging my posts?
All I said is that liberals who don't know what they are talking about should "beat it", that is, "get lost".

Did I offend someone?

Hal Donahue...
Open up your Bible and turn to Matthew chapter 5.

Start at verse 27 - You have heard it was said, "Do not commit adultery." But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

These are the words of Jesus Christ.

If you make a statement about what is or is not in the Bible, you can check out http://www.crosswalk.com and do a search.

Your statements will have much more impact if they are able to be backed up by the primary source.

Another GOP'er arrested for child rape
A former South Dakota lawmaker is accused of molesting his own foster children and legislative pages.Ted Klaudt, 49, a Republican rancher from Walker, faces a long list of charges: eight counts of rape, two counts of sexual exploitation of a minor, two counts of witness tampering, sexual contact with a person under 16, and stalking.

so what else is new?

speaking of porn... isnt the reagan library in the porn capital of the US?

mccullough has issues
with reality.

week after week he makes false and untrue statements about liberals despite being called on it.

this morals policeman is a liar.

"Why do liberals desire so much to be measured by biblical standards when it is obvious they do not care about them?"

who says liberals don't care about biblical standards?
did this liar do a survey of liberals or is this just his opinion?

if it is his opinion then it is not a fact. oh i forgot conservative columnists don't base conclusions on fact just their emotions and opinions.

i mean if giving your opinion on something makes it a fact we could all go around saying things that were lies and say they were truth simply because we believed it to be truth.

sheesh


reg lib - define yourself
Please note below the banner for Townhall.com it states "Where your opinion counts". It seems as tho every time a columnist writes about liberals in general you always get offended. I take it you view yourself as a liberal, fine. Perhaps you feel you don't fit most of the points in this column, then I ask you to define yourself, state where you stand and why rather than constantly asking for facts, attacking the author and accusing him of lying.

KMC
THIS STATEMENT IS FACTUALLY UNTRUE.

The sad thing is Jameson is right. Under Bill Clinton there was not a single federal prosecution of porn related crimes



In fiscal 1997, only six prosecutions included a lead charge of federal obscenity law violation. In 1998, those cases totaled only eight.

http://www.cwfa.org/familyvoice/2000-11/20-25.asp

reg lib, hypocrisy
"oh i forgot conservative columnists don't base conclusions on fact just their emotions and opinions."

Where are your facts to back up that above statement? Did you interview conservatives to come up with that conclusion? If so, how many and was it a fair sampling? Did you interview liberals too? See reg lib, you did the same thing you accuse conservatives of doing - you stated an OPINION without any FACTS!

yankette
here is my problem with this author in particular.

with all the divisiveness in our country i think it is wrong for someone in a position to influence people to continually and consistently make statements about millions of americans that cannot be substantiated.

it is one thing for you or i to express an opinion it is quite another for a colunmnist.


i am a Christian
i am a liberal
i believe in the soul
i believe in the Father, Son and Holy Ghost
i believe in Faith and the power of prayer
i am pro-life
i am against the death penalty (for moral reasons)
I believe in John 3:16
i believe kevin mccoullough is more interested in futhering his career than bringing americans together.

yankette
exactly my point.

see anyone could go around making those broad generalizations and i did it on purpose.

i mean i could say anything and say it was true simply because i say it is but if you are going to be a columnist you should be able to back up your assertions with more than an opinion.

KMC
here are more facts from the washington times refuting your thesis.

here is a statement from the article


President Bush "has a worse record in his first term than Clinton had," says Patrick A. Trueman, who served as chief of the Justice Department's Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section (CEOS) under Presidents Reagan and George H.W. Bush.


http://washingtontimes.com/national/20041220-123550-4129r.htm

Porn is hardly a new concept
I think it's a little late in the history of our civilization to worry about banning pornography.

This painting was found in the ruins of Pompeii. It dates back to around 50 A.D.:

http://tinyurl.com/ys44l8

And on a list of issues critical to our civilization, this one isn't a high priority. We've survived for thousands of years without being morally destroyed by depictions of one of the most natural acts a human being can perform.

Relig Lib
There's something that rings mighty true about your handle - we, on the right, have come to realize that liberalism is a faith based religion. Nearly 100% of whatever else you write is pure feces.

As a matter of fact, you act like the guy at a club I was once in who always showed up at the meetings drunk, all the time wisecracking and otherwise disrupting the proceedings. I guess he thought he was quite an entertainer - that is until he was unanamously invited to leave for good.

Isn't it possible you could find another venue where your inanities might be more appreciated?

A few thoughts...
First of all, if I were running for office, I would accept money from pornstars, Hef, Bill Maher, Log Cabin Republicans, and pretty much anyone else that wanted to contribute. I agree with Ronald Reagan: by accepting someone's campaign contributions, I'm not accepting his or her agenda, he is she is signing on to *mine*.

Secondly, whoever advocated a government ban of porn is advocating a big government intrusion into the private lives of others. As long as consenting adults are involved, it is none of your business what kind of movie or magazine I watch or read. The purpose of government is to protect individual liberty, not enforce your personal moral code or values.

Thirdly, to suggest that porn inevitably leads to a degradation of women and further to rape and other crimes is complete hyperbole. Never mind the fact that both women AND men enjoy porn, or even that different people have different standards for what actually constitutes porn. Rape is considered by psychologists to be more of a violence- and power-related act than sexual in its origin. Someone who might be more likely to engage in certain acts like rape might be more likely to also enjoy certain kinds of porn, but that doesn't mean that there's a cause-effect relationship.

Finally, a broad statement like KMC makes that says that liberals as a group don't "care" about Biblical values is simply not true. I know conservatives and liberals who appreciate and embody Biblical values, and conservatives and liberals who don't. I also know a lot of good, intelligent people who disagree about the interpretation of certain Biblical values. KMC seems, as is often the case, to be setting himself up as the ultimate arbiter of what embodies Biblical values and what embodies caring about those values. In doing so, he is exhibiting a level of pride and judgment typical of the Pharisees, who weren't exactly spoken of in the best of terms...

john galt
although we don't always agree on politics i appreciate your realistic and truthful assessment here.

i object to mr. mccollough stereotyping of liberals on a weekly basis. just as there are liberals on the far left who are nuts, there are conservatives on the right who are also.

i am merely trying to say that you cannot generalize about millions of people (liberal or conservative) on the basis of the most extreme statements or attitudes of a small few on the fringes.

conman
exactly which one of my true statements do you object to.

if you don't like a free exchange of ideas, that is called democracy by the way, maybe you need to find a new venue where only those ideas which conform to your narrow view of the world are presented.

to religious lib
Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Only the narrow minded in other words will get to heaven. The broad minded end up in hell. How thankful I am I'm narrow minded and hope you will to.

undookie
whew
what a Christian example you set.
kind of a loose interpretation of scripture there.

as your clergy if he thinks that is how it should be read.

re: undookie
I'm not sure how you get that one must be "narrow minded" out of that verse. "Narrow is the way" would seem to me to refer more to the idea that a Christian lifestyle takes dedication, that it isn't easy nor random. I'd be interested in hearing how a "narrow ... way" equates with narrow-minded thinking.

What kind of bear is best?
Love the title Kev.

COuple of Things.
First, porn is about money. lots of money. Period. Porn is capitalism in action. Identify market. Provide product. Bank profits. Given that an unfettereed free market is a huge conservative value, I am confused as to why porn is a problem for them.

Second, yankette indicates that people ought not to complain about McCullough because he is merely stating an opinion. Well, opinions are like ***holes, everybody has one and exposing it in public usually doesn't help the conversation.

I object to that
I would probably identify myself as liberal (on some issues but not abortion for instance), and I am a passionate Christian. So hearing someone who has never met me tell me I'm not a Christian based entirely on my political beliefs is not enjoyable.

Jack
You make a great point and hit upon one of the many, many inconsistencies between the business and social sides of conservative philosophy.

Why does this seem to work for conservatives? I think it's because unfettered capitalism does a great job of making SOME people rich, but for various reasons, many will be poor or eek out a paycheck-to-paycheck living. How do you sell these people on conservatism? You bring in the church and "family values" groups to keep them under control! They preach that if you don't get your material wealth in this life, you will in the afterlife -- IF you follow all these rules and vote for conservative politicians . . .

GoodonPaper
I once did an analysis of reagan's inaugural addresses using Kohlberg's moral stages. Suffice it to say, what he and other Republicans have done very well is to take pure self interest and infuse it with a pseudo morality.

You know what I don't get?
Why do people find it necessary to degrade Kevin's wife. In just about every column Kevin writes, someone has a comment that is unkind towards his spouse. That is just mean spirited and uncalled for. Keep those comments to yourself.

unbelievable

And the point of this article is? If people want to watch porn and rub one out whose business is that? Aren't you republicans all about business and making money? Is this not capitalism? Why do you republicans think you have the right to ram your brand of morality down everyones throat? How are you different from the democrats who do the same thing?

TH "Discussion" Now a Crappy Chatroom
It would appear there's not a discussion venue on the internet which isn't rapidly taken over by a bunch of "clubby" little chatters. I have never, ever, seen it to fail, and Townhall's article discussion format is no exception.

As with so many other things in life, a very few self-anointed Twinks soon dominate all discussion, which "weighty" discussions soon deteriorate into, "Hey, Mabel, how was your trip to Cabo?" - or some such nonsense.

Yeppers, no comments are deserving of response unless one is officially a member of the rotating chat club!

How dare you sir.
People like you make me sick. How dare you attempt to take away my freedoms because of your beliefs. Check in the Bible you idiot God gave us a free will. Now you and those like you want to take that away from others. HOW DARE YOU SIR.

Say What?
Whatever are you babbling on about, Horse?

How dare you sir???
My Christian beliefs are taking away your freedoms? Hardly, sir...

In point of fact, my Christian beliefs have given you your freedoms. My Christian beliefs gave every slave the freedom of their hearts, knowing that each may be in bondage but their soul can never be.

My Christian faith ended the common practice of infanticide that existed in the pagan societies of the world at the time of Christ. Thus, giving freedom to the innocent children of our world.

My Christian faith gave freedom to women, ending the common practice of multiple wives and denigration of women as an underclass in the societies of the first century A.D.

My Christian faith gave the very idea of freedom to our founding fathers, who then wrote our Declaration of Independence and Constitution.

Believe it or not, we Christians defend your freedoms with our faith in our savior Jesus Christ.

Peppermint

"I would like to see all porn off the Internet that degrades women of all ages."

Yes, that would be nice, but we shouldn't be hoping that government will do it. That would only involve them expanding their size and scope and I can't even imagine how much the intrusiveness would increase.

Today, there are software filters that anyone can purchase to put parental controls on what your child is able to view on the internet. Beyond that, if an adult wants to view porn, it is their option to do so, however despicable.

What happened to conservatives being for small government, personal privacy and individual liberty? If we truly want these things, we are going to have to look more to ourselves and less to government.

Allen
How old are you? Like 5? How about you grow up and keep your jackass commments to your jackass self.

MrsV-Reply to Hal Donohue & the liberals
Hal Donahue wrote:

"Sex and Jesus -How many words did Jesus actually say about sex? I am far from an expert but I believe he said absolutely nothing. How many words about the poor, love, helping your neighbor? Somehow you radical fundies just seem to miss the mote in your own eye..."

And why would He?

He was the embodiment of holiness manifest on Earth.

His life, an example to us all, and lived so that believing men may have Life, was not talking 'about sex', but that does not mean He had nothing to say about it.

Jesus said "Be yee holy as I am holy" for one. He approached a prostitute, and urged her to leave her reprobate life and: "Go, and sin no more"

There are plenty of scriptures where God, and Christ as Him go on to detail how God looks on the heart. And since it is here where most sins manifest, He urges men to live lives of purity, and accountability to Him. Particularly Christians, as new creations in Him.

I do not want to see or hear anymore Liberal rhetoric about "the poor" and "love", when it comes to their talking about or alluding to Christian life and Jesus.

It seems they can do nothing more than point at the Christian, and talk of "mote/s" and beams in the saved person's eyes, while paying little attention to their own anemic version of 'faith'.

It is not only a dishonest argument to say that Jesus "never spoke about sex", it is an easy out for anyone looking to make even a slight venture into actually examining their inner lives in these areas, so as to examine if they are living up to what God would have of them.

The whole reply to this idea about Jesus supposedly having no opinion on this topic makes it simple for a liberal to cast a blind eye on living a worldly life, where the weights and measures are imbalanced, and fluctuate, when it comes to seeing oneself clearly, and living life as one should.

In the same breath, liberals, or those who hold views as your own, throw about words like: "love", and "helping others", and about "the poor", when the TRULY loving thing one can do for another is to share the Truth with them about God's Word, will and standard. For by so doing- that other party can also be aware of the freedom God can offer them through Christ alone, so they too can-Go, and sin no more.

Shedding light on God's standard for us is greatly helpful, if we are looking to live a blessed life here, and in the world to come.

There is no more beautiful thing one can do than the act of speaking this Truth in love.

And, indeed, as I noted above, sharing these Truths is an evident act of such a love.

But the liberal will continue to lump in words which leave out certain of God's Word, will and standards, like those of personal redemption and holiness, while bandying about others as I mentioned above.

Yet, who is being-truly-loving here in sharing the truth with you about God's standard and the flawed, and wavering standard of certain political parties and human beings?

And while we are on it-regarding "the poor" and "love" and "helping others".

It is the Christian, followed by the Conservative, and those of a more modest income-not the Liberals, Democrats, nor big spenders, who comparatively-by far give and outgive to the poor and for charitable causes-time and again-in every study done-when it comes to recent times and the giving habits of men..

Anyone can wave about words, and lofty platitudes, talking about things that sound pretty, Hal Donohue.

It's much harder a standard to live that life quiet and unobtrusively, where only the eyes of God, and few others see.

Millions of Christians do that, unswervingly, everyday.

And you people here have the nerve to go on about platitudes, which aren't adhered to by liberals, and talk of motes and planks, and stones, when you won't even consider living by such a standard, but knock those who selflessly live it, every chance you get..?

Talk to us when you can really help others, and start with yourselves..

Make a redemptive effort, and invest personally.

Do it now, while you have time left on this Earth.

Don't talk to us about what your salad bar view of Jesus and scripture is, or why a man who loves murdering infants, and a woman who would love to lie and call two men wed is a great thing in our day.

Tell us about Truth. Not yours, God's.

Tell us about a standard above your own shaky one.

Tell us why we ought to stand by our faith, yet believe liars who try to play act and imitate us.

Tell us more about how imperfect we are.

Big deal, three fingers are pointing back at you, while you are busy figuring out the soul's of us.

Get busy people..

You have work to do..



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