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Sunday, February 11, 2007
Kevin McCullough :: Townhall.com Columnist
"Why Imams Be Playin' Us"
by Kevin McCullough
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From the hit television show '24', to the annual gathering of Democrats in winter retreat and stretching even to the university campus, Imams be playin' us.

Radical ones are amused at our blatant display of weakness on our televisions, amongst our elected leaders, and at the spineless provosts in educational arenas.

They are laughing at us, mocking us, and praying prayers of conversion over us, and we keep inviting them back for more.

Normally I'm a big fan of Jack Bauer and his pursuit to get the terrorists before they assassinate the President, release biological weapons, or detonate nukes on American soil. This year I'm grateful that they have played out a relatively believable storyline in terms of the dangers we face. However, I've grown ever tired of the ranting rampage of more than one character on the show this year more or less lecturing the viewers about the "constitutional protections" of those who wish us dead. I'm sorry, did I miss something? Have we, did we set up internment camps somewhere on our soil - even after 9/11?

I'm also not thrilled with the fact that they have portrayed a President who is actively negotiating with terrorists. At least he's a liberal democrat though - they get points for consistency. And setting up a Yassar Arafat-like character to be the noble pursuer of what is right is just the unbelievable cherry on top.

Yep, they're laughing...

But if America's fictional television shows aren't enough...

There are always the real-life democrats who held their annual winter retreat last weekend and invited an Imam to come pray a prayer of conversion over them as they started the meetings. (VIDEO HERE) And not just any Imam, Husham Al Husainy. Imam of the largest Shiite mosque in America, his resume is quite impressive. He is a life long supporter of the Ayatollah Khomeini. For you youngsters he's the radical Imam who took our boys hostage for 444 days under the "impressive" days of Jimmy Carter's presidency. For literally more than a year our government held its breath and hoped that maybe he might just change his mind. All of that came to a swift end the moment Ronald Reagan put his hand on the inaugural Bible. Khomeini’s choice was, let 'em go or get turned into crispy pork rinds. (See Reagan's presidency was so impressive it even spared his enemy's life.)

But I digress... back to Husainy.

He is also a life long supporter of Hezbollah - a terror network with wider reach than Al Qaeda. And last summer when Hezbollah began raining rockets upon Israel, Husainy organized near daily protests in Dearborn and Detroit in support of the Iranian backed terror group. He's also quite the orator his anti-American, anti-Israel stump speech has become a hit in jihad circles everywhere. He is so good at it that was even able to weasel in the actual language of conversion into the prayer he prayed over the Democrats who had gathered. Muslim scholars, upon careful inspection of the language he used have confirmed as much. To paraphrase, he was asking Allah, to allow them to convert or meet their doom.

And of all of the practitioners of faith in America today, out of the millions of people who could offer up prayers to heavens (even if few of them are in fact liberals themselves), the DNC chose HIM?

It wasn't enough that they invited him either. One could easily surmise that if they simply explained that they hadn't "done their homework" the democrats could get by with a paltry little, "well I disagree with him and we'll be more careful next time." But oh no... Geraldine Ferraro a former party nominee for Vice-President and a boatload of others go on talk radio, cable news, etc. to defend the Imam's prayer. One particularly peculiar anecdote emerging from these appearances being that they thought the Imam was being inclusive by citing Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed. The former Veep didn't even realize that by including only those four he was advancing a strict doctrine of Islam.

Yep, laughing, rolling on the floor holding their belly...

Finally this week at the C.W. Post campus of Long Island University, on Long Island, New York, five otherwise exceptional young men have their campus jobs stripped for making a parody video on YouTube in which they as the Resident Hall Supervisors of one dorm, donned ski-masks and kidnapped "Pete the rubber ducky" - who as it happened was a campus mascot. Their big crime? The Ski masks and cartoonish Middle Eastern accents!

They clearly aired a disclaimer on the video demonstration indicating that it was but a ruse. But that was not enough to satisfy the shallow headed provost of the school Joseph Shenker. He not only fired them from their posts but has threatened (insert gasps of air here) campus hearings on the matter. Evidently they had crossed the line of "sensitivity," even though none of the schools 8500 students had complained and the vast majority of the campus supports the five boys.

So why the harsh reaction?

Muslim advocacy groups squealing "political correctness" like stuck pigs. C.A.I.R. (who always sides against America and for the terrorists), the American Muslim Alliance, and the Islamic Center of Long Island Westbury all issued "statements" and "press releases" denouncing "prank."

And where were any of these groups when terrorists were beheading journalists, contractors, and service personnel?

Yes, the laughing continues... and it will.

For as long as we tell our culture through our entertainment that taking the wrong side is the right thing, as long as we give terror-supporting radicals places of prominence, and as long as we tolerate feigned outrage at harmless pranks while holding no one accountable for actual atrocity then our enemies will believe that we are weak.

And unfortunately - they may be right!

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If you don't laugh, you cry!
The lack of common sense in the American Left is enough to make one pull one's hair out. It is a wonder if I have any left!

The Liberals hate conservatives so much that they see us as a greater enemy than the Islamists.

Since the Lefties see the Islamist as hating America, and therefore conservatives, they think they must be on the same team. They are not disturbed by the inflamatory statements made by these Emmams, because they are used to tuning out anything that sounds like religious speech anyway.

The Left seems blissfully unaware that the Islamists hate them as much as they hate conservatives, and are using them because they seem willing to tear America apart with their bare hands.

No wonder the Emmams are laughing!

Tanabear
Ibrahim al-Jaafari is the Prime Miinster of Iraq. Abdul aziz al-Hakim is an imminent Shiite cleric in Iraq. The intent of both of these meetings was to negotiate things in Iraq. Was the Islamic prayer for the Democrats a negotiation for things in Iraq? I hardly think so. Like all things posted by Mr. Tanabear, the content was misleading to the point of being untrue, and the intent is only to snare the uninitiated.

This is War!
We are in a war for the very survival of civilization and the myopic left insists on giving aid, comfort, and support to the enemy.

Islam in not the enemy
There are perhaps as many as 1.6 billion Muslims living on Earth. Are you on the Right suggesting that there is only a single and final solution to the "problem" of Islam? If Islam itself is an inherent evil, maybe the answer is to outlaw the religion. Maybe we should ban the Qur'an. Maybe it's time to begin smashing every bit of glass in every Mosque in the country. Should we begin preparing canisters of Zyklon B now?

No, the only answer is to embrace and encourage moderate Islam- embolden the moderates so as to make the radical wing of Islam inconsequential. If Imam Husham Al-Husainy is willing to stand before our elected leaders and preach words of tolerance and conciliation, regardless of his previous sins, I applaud him.

Karl
Why is it our responsibility to "embrace and encourage" moderate Islam? Wouldn't it be helpful if the "moderate Muslims" would step up and take responsiblity themselves?

Moderate Islam
There is no moderate Islam. There may well be moderate Muslims; they would be Muslims who do not adhere to the whole of Islamic teachings and laws. And if there are moderate Muslims, they need to begin speaking out much more often and much more loudly than their violent counterparts. America must wake up and take to heart what the Islamists are promising us, and get real serious about fighting it.

Karl
Islam is the enemy.
The Koran teaches that no religion but Islam should be allowed to exist and that all peoples, when met with Islam, must 1) convert to Islam; 2) suffer 'dhimmitude'(become second-class citizens who have no rights and must pay taxes and tribute to survive); or 3) be killed.
There is no room for 'moderate' Islam in the Koran or in Sharia, period.
Your comparison to Nazi Germany is so far from reality, it should be embarassing. The Jewish people had not attacked Germany and neither the Torah nor the Talmud ever called for the destruction of Germanic people.
It is fashionable to select cetain segments of Islamic society as the 'enemy' and consider the whole as our 'friends,' but the events following the Danish cartoons (rioting around the world and nuns being killed in Africa)show us just how far our 'friends' are separated from our 'enemies."

Can't Find These Moderate Muslims
Karl may be right but I can't find these moderate Muslims to embrace. Where are they and why are they so silent when there are radicals all around and atrocities happening every day?

Do these moderate ones use a different Koran than the one that says to kill all us infidels? Do they have moderate imams and if so, where could I find a list of these? Has it been verified what they are teaching in their moderate mosques?

Yes, they are playing us like a violin and using our own laws and tolerance against us. The Left in this country is largely to blame for this through their misguided idea of tolerance. Freedom of speech does not give others the right to threaten my existence nor that of others who do not share their beliefs. It stops far short of expressing ideations of global dominance through the slaughter of innocent people who happen to be of other ethnicity.

We are fools to allow and tolerate this and now have a congress more focused on their hatred of President Bush and all conservatives than they are on the Global Jihad. They deny it even exits.

What kind of people believe in Global Warming with no proof yet do not believe in Global Jihad after 9-11 and with radicals vocalizing it daily?

The left is not only tolerating this contempt for this country, they are encouraging it. The more broken the country, the better their shot at the White House in 2008. Their hate for this country under conservatives is greater than their hate for those who aspire to kill them.

This is the sorry state of our country today.

spelling
Of course, "cetain" in my third paragraph should read as "certain." Sorry about that.

Vic
He's an EMINENT cleric, not an IMMINENT one -- although if you were literate, you could make a case for imminent, I suppose.

Star Trek: The Nerd Generation also believed you could defeat your enemy by boring him to death. Then came the Borg.


I like the quote
Muslim advocacy groups squealing "political correctness" like stuck pigs.

A Great Disservice to Muslims
The weakness we are showing is making us look weak when we are not. We hold back when we should not. We project effeminacy when it does not exist. Strategic planners are warning that our actions have "blurred the red lines" and projected a reluctance to defend ourselves that may not exist.

WHEN, not if, but WHEN the Islamist does attack, WHEN 3-4 US coastal cities are reduced to radioactive craters, THEN we will act. The muslim world will be hit by a flaming whirlwind. We took the "breath away" from Zahwahiri in Afghanistan. What will happen to the Muslim world when we are finally attacked will require an iron lung!

I read Arab journals; Man on the Street type interviews. The moron reporter asked an Egyptian man, "Are we winning in Iraq (we, Muslims)? Are we defeating the American Infidel?" "No," replies the Egyptian, "we are only winning in the Newspapers!" The Arab Street knows. They are not fools. And our cultural and political elite know as well, its just that "losing" in the newspapers has been the source of power for the left since Vietnam. When America loses, they win. This time, this "victory" will cost them dearly. As we wipe the Islamist off the face of the earth, so classical American Liberalism must go into the dustbin. We have to cut off both heads of this beast.

Then, maybe then, we will have some peace. Pax Americana.

Moderate Muslims
Where Islam is weak, the "Koran" reads, "we must fight the infidel".
Where Isalm is strong, the "Koran" reads, "we must kill the infidel".
Muslims are moderate only until they are strong enough to kill the infidels.

To AudiR10
You're right, but that what you get when you let a Microsoft automatic spell checker do your work for you at 05:30 in the morning. My loss of intelligence was imminent however, since it wasn’t long afterwards when I was branded a moron on a different thread.

Head of the beast
d`Anconia, I made no comparison to Nazi Germany. I merely asked how far the Right is prepared to go in its fight against Islam.

When posters write that we have to cut off the head of the beast that is Islam, what does this mean in practical terms? Does this mean that we will tolerate only a reformed Islam in this country, or does this mean that we will tolerate no Islam at all? And if we will tolerate moderate Islam, what practical steps do what take to bring this about?

For those of you who see no signs of moderate Islam in this country, I cite an ecumenical prayer made by an Imam to an audience of non-Muslims as an example.

Karl
Breaking all the glass in Mosques? If that's not a reference to Nazi Germany, then what is? You can't make the allusion and then deny you made it

Karl again
Even if you deny the kristallnacht allusion, where did you come up with Zyklon B? As far as my memory goes, that particular gas has only been used by one regime. Want to guess which one?
At least be intellectually honest.

"Resistance is futile"
"Star Trek: The Nerd Generation also believed you could defeat your enemy by boring him to death. Then came the Borg." AudiR10

Bravo!! Great example,Islam and the Borg. My family were watching old ST-TNG and I remember that when the episodes were first on air, there was a minor debate about just "whom" the Borg were representing, was it "Global Capitalism" or what???

Watching recently -- "A-ha!" moment. If you submit right away to the Borg, it was mostly "not painful." If you fought, you were destroyed and what remained was absorbed, and disappeared as if it never existed.

Peoples dispersed before it (Guinan for example).

"One particularly peculiar anecdote emerging from these appearances being that they thought the Imam was being inclusive by citing Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed. The former Veep didn't even realize that by including only those four he was advancing a strict doctrine of Islam."

Yep, our "so-called" educated political classes are really "jack---es" (what, that is the symbol of the Democrat Party) They do not "know" nor care to know the faith and beliefs of another -- just as long as it isn't a Catholic, A Christian or a Conservative Jew! (Or any other person of faith).

And these folks want TOTAL control of all three bodies of Government???? Heaven help us!

Karl
The way you embolden moderate islam IS by going in to every mosque and routing out the radicals.

Spying on the mosques is a great start. I do not subscribe to the if you have nothing to hide why should spying bother you crowd; but it has been demonstrated conclusively that MOST clerics in this country are radical.

Whether it is pressure from the wahaabis from arabia or the shiites driving the radicalization, it is an untennable situation. Christians would not get a pass like muslims have (can you say Davd Karesh?).

The only way the moderates will stand up is if we take out the radicals. All the while the moderates will protest even if they agree, why do you think out of the millions of muslims here we get a token few who are allowed to speak out, and always in muted rhetoric.

Islam will not stop, it MUST be stopped. Things are going to get a lot worse all over the world before they get better precisely because there are over a billion of the little barbaric b*stards.

11h

Dark Messiah
Maybe my memory is going, but I don't remember the last time Jews, or Isreal, attacked America. I do, however, remember two attcks on the world trade center, the pentagon, a plane on the ground in Shanksville, embassies, the USS Cole, etc.
you're way past apples and oranges here.
And before you claim we're losing in Iraq, talk to a service member who's been there.

Fear
We have sipped "tolerance" for so long that we didn't see them slip the arsenic in the coolaid.

Kristallnacht
d'Anconia, I don't deny the references to Nazi Germany. I do deny that I made a "comparison". I don't accuse you a monsterous intentions, only intemperate and inflammatory language - language that points to a path neither conservative nor liberal wishes to go.

They Are Right

....Kevin...Thanks for a great article ...

.....America is weak ...at least as personified by the castrated wussys that make up the Liberal Democrat Party aided by a few sycophant weak-kneed RINOS ....these are the same flea infested hippies that demonstrated in the streets during Vietnam and gave victory to the enemy ...all grown up and poised to take control in 2008 ...

.....We are PC'ing ourselves to death ...for one who remembers an America that waged a two front war and emerged victorious in WWII ...it is a sad and sickening sight .....COLOSSUS

No Moderates
If, out of a 1000 men, only 100 of them want to kill me, I am not safe. If the 900 remaining men do not try and stop the 100 from trying to kill me, then those 900 may as well not even exist, for they are thus invisible. There are no moderate muslims.

Mary Ann Kutzko
Good post; concise and on target.

You're correct about fighting the radical muslims. Unfortunately, there are many leftists in America who feel we should simply surrender. These leftists also want to control America and transform it into a neo-socialist system (with themselves as rulers, of course).

Karl
You did make the comparison to Nazi Germany. Nazi Germany was a molehill compared to what Islam has done to Christians and non-Moslem over the last 1,400 year. 270,00,000 murdered in the name of Allah and hundreds of millions enslaved. Moslem don't usually use gas, they prefer to saw peoples heads off, and then make the women serve as sex slaves. (Check out Sudan, for example.) We didn't start this conflict, they did and if over a billion Moslems have to die to eliminate the cancer of Islam, then so be it. Nuking Medinah and Mecca would be a good move in this global conflict that the Moslems started 1,400 years ago

The end result..
The US has the finest military in the world... We have the best trained, most dedicated troops..
We have the most effective weapons that incorperate the newest technology... Our way of life is on the line here, and yet we are letting a bunch of primative rag-tag, third-world freaks set the pace... What is wrong with this picture ?
The answer is simple - Political Correctness !!
If the left, for just once, would allow the military to take off the gloves and do what they do best, I believe we would mop the floor with Islam... Unfortunatly, with Pelosi, Klintoon, Schumer, Durbin, Conyers, Feinstein, Biden, BO,
Kerry etc. etc. now in charge, it would seem that things will get worse before they get better... I couldn't agree more with AF_retiree_2001 - God help us !!

Anti-Socialist
You said: "Where Islam is weak, the Koran reads, 'we must fight the infidel'.
Where Islam is strong, the Koran reads, 'we must kill the infidel'.
Muslims are moderate only until they are strong enough to kill the infidels."

Could not have said it any better. It is human nature to act out their darkest desires if given the opportunity. Nothing illustrates this better than a Star Trek episode I saw last night. One of the crew had his body mutated by radiation and acquired super-human powers. Suddenly, this nice man’s dark side surfaced. He became a brutal tyrant and began torturing and killing everyone around him until he was forcibly subdued.

As an atheist, I can objectively analyze the modern day religions. Christianity had a period in history when non-believers were seek out and killed, i.e. the Crusades. Fast forward to the present, Christianity now converts people to their way of thinking with the use of less violent methods such as missionaries.

I am afraid Islam is still stuck in the Crusades era. Like the crewman on Star Trek, if sufficient power is available to them, they will try to wipe us out. Just look at the level of destruction they have left behind on every continent with their current limited firepower.

America haters say we are no different. To those who say America will also become a tyrant if left unchecked, I make this observation. After the Cold War ended over 20 years ago, we were the sole remaining super power. China's economy and military were in their infancy. We had absolutely no deterrent. We could have invaded the middle east and taken all their oil. We could have bombed any country to submission with no consequences. In short, we could have taken over the world. But, we did not! I say that is pretty revealing of our intentions. Can any realistic person say the Islamic world will have the same level of restrain under the same circumstances?

Karl
I'm assuming that what you refer to as "intemparate and infammatory language" is my quote that Islam is the enemy. Why is that intemperate or inflamatory when Muslim clerics have already called for global jihad against the United States. As a citizen of the United States, I have been called their enemy, so why can't I call them my enemy?
BTW, of what "monstrous intentions" am I accused?

Karl
Muslims have declared THEMSELVES to be our enemy. d'Anconia didn't have to say it! I take them at their word!

Everybody missed this.
In my dealings with the males I know from the middle east the methodology has always been the same. The only thing that differs is the degree.

That methodology is to lie right to your face, swear on it and if not immediately successful then add exaggeration.

It is unbelieveable how blatant they are!! One of my customers is from the ME and to my face he insisted I was charging him XXX dollars. When I sent him the old invoices, proving he was only charged X, he ignored it. He responded with numerous claims of defects in the product over the last two years.

However he had never reported or returned any defective material in those two years, and I visited his business weekly.

I use one example but I have dozens from dozens of ME owned firms. Their behavior is uniform.

Heck, look at Arafat's history. Shake Carter's hand, hug the Jew, take 100's of millions from the US and go back to rocket and bomb Israel!

This writer McCullough has it correct. They are laughing their heads off everytime some new or old idiot says we have to have more "dialogue" with the enemy. A couple of months back I got a splitting headache when some total idiots suggested we get Iran to HELP US in Irag!

God Help Us is just the beginning. Again in today's news we find Iranian weapons in Iraq. Sounds like Iran is already helping us in Iraq; to lose that is.

Remember one thing. They lie to your face.









tanabear
I'll accept that. I was only three years old at the time, so I never did "remember" the Liberty. My point, which you have helped make, is that Islam is the clear and present danger to the U.S. (yes, I know I stole Clancy's title). The Liberty, plus a few spy scandals, does not compare with the Cole, the Hostage Crisis, the embassy in Lebanon, nightclubs, airplanes, etc., even before 9/11.

Amelia
You cannot find any "Moderate" muslims because there ARE NO "Moderate" muslims.

Islam is more than a religion. Islam is an army. Islam is a religious army bent on Global Conversion or Global Death.

All muslims are soldiers in the Army of Islam. ALL muslims. Not just the "Terrorists" or "Islamofacists". These are merely the assault wave shock troops. Those muslims that have emigrated to this country or that country or any country have come for one purpose. They are soldiers in the Army of Islam and they are here to gather intelligence, provide safe houses, raise money for future acts of war and supply the shock troops and to ultimately take part in the street fighting that is going to come. There are no "Moderate" muslims.

We are at war with a religion that is an army. We are at war with the Army of Islam. And that army is 1 Billion strong.

Correct you are, Donal
If, out of a 1000 men, only 100 of them want to kill me, I am not safe. If the 900 remaining men do not try and stop the 100 from trying to kill me, then those 900 may as well not even exist, for they are thus invisible. There are no moderate muslims.

And for Marc of LA...it's not so much "lying" but an insistence of winning in any negotiation. Nearly 5 years of life in Cairo taught me that most muslims play cards (negotiate) with an unlimited deck; once something is "agreed" or "contracted -- even on paper and witnessed -- they will pull a fifth ace or 14th trump from their sleeve and claim the "pot". Doesn't matter if it's 2 or 10 years later.

Good article!
Really good points!!!!

Interesting comparision
Watched a rerun of FOX special
:" Radical Islam:Terror in its own words."

I was struck by how similar the Muslim "Death to America" screams were to "Seig Heil, Sieg Heil" down to the outstretch arms. And the brainwashing of the youth to think of the Jews as untermensch or as dogs and pigs.
Demonize and destroy.

Divinity of Christ denied…

‘He…was even able to weasel in the actual language of conversion into the prayer he prayed over the Democrats who had gathered. Muslim scholars, upon careful inspection of the language he used have confirmed as much. To paraphrase, he was asking Allah, to allow them to convert or meet their doom.’ -Kevin McCullough

The ‘prayer’ invoked the names of Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed as if the latter has anything to do with the others. As the Democrats remove themselves further away from the American heritage, the rest of us don’t have to follow.

Be reminded that the motto of the Revolutionary War was, ‘No king, but King Jesus.’ The Founders understood something vitally important that we as a culture today have forgotten; that is, the divinity of Jesus Christ is as important to the Christian faith as His humanity.

Peter addresses his second epistle ‘to those who have obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ.’ [II Peter 1:1]

The Scriptures teach that in Christ is the authoritative and complete revelation of God the Father. He has all authority and power to insure the completion of His church.

To associate His name with Mohammed is taking His name in vain. Is Mohammed without sin? Does he offer himself a sacrifice for sin? Does he offer a righteousness of faith or one of works?

Christ is not just another prophet. The Bible says that He is the Creator God in the flesh and the Redeemer God risen from the dead. We all must stand before His judgment on the last day to give account.

Camillus

.....Are you the Saint Camillus of Lellis? ...or the Camillus Plutarch wrote of?...

.....either way I agree with your post ...I believe that it will take a nuclear holocaust to awaken the America that has been in a deep coma since Vietnam ...and that both heads of the beast (Liberal/Socialists and Islamics) have to be cut off before we can be truly free .....COLOSSUS

The final solution
Taskwazen writes: "We didn't start this conflict, they did and if over a billion Moslems have to die to eliminate the cancer of Islam, then so be it. Nuking Medinah and Mecca would be a good move in this global conflict that the Moslems started 1,400 years ago."

So far that makes it one vote in favor of Holocaust. I vote against.

I ask again, in practical terms, what are you on the Right actually willing to do in your struggle against the beast you call Islam? Is there really only the final solution favored by Taskwazen, or is there a middle path that draws a clear distinction between radical and moderate Islam and gives us room to destroy the one while embracing and nurturing the other?

If you haven't already done so, please read Frank Pastore's column:

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/column.aspx?UrlTitle=islam_is_not_the_enemy!&Comments=true&ns=FrankPastore&dt=02/11/2007#0fdb973c-3f5f-4b2d-b3e0-b366a0b211aa

Yes, the Imams are laughing...
...and if you haven't read Tea With Terrorists (available online at http://www.teawithterrorists.com/), you really should. The authors aren't Tom Clancy, but danged if they don't come awfully close.

As for Baseballdoc's belief that it will take a nuclear holocaust to wake us up, well that depends on who's asleep. I'd have to say there are a lot more people awake to the danger than may be obvious, largely because the MSM has a vested interest in keeping a lid on the Truth.

There is an alternative to cutting off both heads of the beast, which is probably impossible, and that is for all the grown ups in this country (and elsewhere) to get serious about building Jacob's Ladder(s) and the Cities of Heaven (aka space settlements). There's not much time, but if everything that has been and will be already IS, there will be just enough time.

Alternatively, if I'm wrong (and I'm human, so I could be), then we should be building refuges for ourselves in the wilderness. Then, if the authors of "Tea with Terrorists" are correct in their interpretation of Scripture (in other works available on the same site), then we'll be ready for the harpazo, the snatching out, that is commonly referred to as the Rapture, some time in the early 2020's. After that, the rest of the world will go to hell for the time of the Tribulation.

Either way, we can either moan groan and complain about being laughed at, or we can do something sensible about it. I know what I'm doing about it. What about the rest of you?

This is getting nuts
My gosh, people. To listen to many of you talk, it sounds like you want to kill every last Muslim on the face of the planet. What is being suggested sounds a lot like ethnic cleansing. This is no more right than what was done to the Jews long ago.

If you want to find every Muslim guilty for what some of their leaders have done in the past, you must also hold yourself accountable for every act some in our own government have taken throughout history. It has not always been perfect, or constitutional.

This is one of the reasons why our Founders established us as a Republic. So, the MOB couldn't all get together and decide to impose their vigilante decisions on the minority, or the one.

Karl
Like I said, if out of 1000 men, 100 want to kill me and the other 900 do not try and stop them, then perforce, they are invisible. Thus there ARE no moderate muslims. ALL the ones we need to concentrate on are our enemy. The ones who are not--and don't try and stop the others--don't matter; they can take care of themselves.

I don't ask anyone else to 'nurture' MY religion. They can take care of their own religion. I'm concerned about the ones who want to end MINE.

I would LOVE for there to be a 'middle path', but that is not something that we can be on ALONE. If THEY do not choose it, there IS NOT one.

Karl
If someone says it is "Him or Me", I am going to do all I can to make sure it's not me.

We didn't start this war. The muslims started this war and they have said it is them or me.

I am going to do all I can to make sure it is not me.

If that fits your "Holocaust" then you need to take it up with the ones who started saying they were going to destroy us all.

I take threats seriously. So should you.

Sure Lydia...
Hillary or Kerry et al would NEVER do anything for raw power, now would they?

Absolutely right, Karl
If someone throws rocks at ya, you can't get them to stop by not throwing any back...

I meant right Buck ABOUT Karl.
You were right in what you said to him.

Lydia and all
Oh gosh, Lydia. As I've said before, the Bush family has long standing and deep business ties with Saudi Arabia.

I haven't read the Koran, so I don't personally know if it commands the domination of the world, or the death of Christians. I have however been spending a bit of time looking into the Talmud and have noticed quite a few disparaging statements about Christians.

Hey everybody, do you think God would approve of us killing everyone that isn't a Christian? Is that what we should do? Do you think Christ would approve?

The entirety of the Muslim faith is no more guilty for what happened on 9-11 than we are for a few of our own government's actions in the past. What is good for the goose, is good for the gander, you know.

We rightfully have a beef with those that plotted and carried out the attacks. Let's get THEM and stop this nation building BS. It is not our business, or right, to overthrow or occupy sovereign nations that have not attacked us. We need to get back to our OWN business, protect our borders, get our OWN government in line, get the traitors out of our OWN government, from both sides of the aisle and get back to a Constitutional government. We have one heck of a lot of unconstitutional laws, agreements, agencies, etc. that need to be thrown out or disbanded. THIS is what needs our full attention.

Lydia
You said... "How much of the world should we watch them violently take over before we believe that their goal is quickly being achieved according to the principles set down 1400 years ago?"

Who are they violently taking over?

Who will stop it the next time?
It may be a gigantic loss of American lives like a nuke that starts it or it might be just a few snipers terrorizing a city or a few suicide bombers or a series of roadside IEDs.
Radical Islam has kept repeating this same pattern of attacking Christians and running to cower behind their own civilians. This is their main battle tactic.
They keep it up until Christians just plain get fed up with it and run out of mercy.
When the cry goes out "Kill them all and let God sort it out.", there has always been Nation to say "Stop! Enough!". The last time this happened it was America who prevented the Serbs from slaughtering more Muslims.
WHEN the Muslims provoke America, WHO will say "Stop Enough?" Who CAN say it? What Nation would WANT to say it?
With the PC gloves off, modern war moves fast and kills very swiftly.
If the "moderate Muslims" continue to shield and finance the Radicals it is a certainty America will eventually destroy Islam and all it's sites forever!
All it will take is for some Radical Muslim to provide just the right spur to anger.

In view of some of the opinions

Oliver North co-wrote a book entitled "Assassins". It's about a rogue former_KGB agent selling nuclear warheads to Iranians, who plan to use them against the US, using commercial planes, ships, and shipping containers. (With the assistance of Cuba and Venezuela) There are people who criticize the administration no matter what they do.

Too close for comfort for me.

MyOpine
Have you ever considered that if we attack Iran, it will empower the radical Muslim leaders? Those Muslims that had been against these radical folks, would likely now stand with them.

It's what happens. People get scared and all sense goes out the window. We are the perfect example of that for what we Americans have allowed to happen since 9-11.

Right now, it appears that it is US that is doing the provoking and we need to stop it. Right now.

Liberty
Until you and your fellow Leftists can understand the difference between genocide and self-defense, you won't understand this discussion--OR how to save yourselves, or defend the rest of us. Quit misstating our position; if you think someone has said 'extermination', then REFER TO THE POST AND THE POSTER.

Yeah sure Liberty

We provoked the Iranians to bring High explosives into another country ( Iraq) so they could kill Americans.

I bet you think we provoked the Germans, Japanese and North Koreans too.

Liberty
Do you suggest America surrender to Ismam?

As to America provoking the "Muslim World", you have it kind of backwards.
http://www.citizensunited.org/multimedia/details.aspx?ID=10
Radical Islam has been trying to provoke America for a long time.
They just haven't frightened enough of the right people yet but have faith.
The one thing Radical Islam can be relied upon for is some stupid grandstand stunt to frighten the naive sleepers.
With todays weapons, numbers just mean higher casualties. Most of the people who comprise those great numbers could not even manufacture a Bandaid unless Western Civilization gave them the tape, gause and instructions.
America did not start this war and it would end tomorrow if the IslamoNazis just called it off.
Most of America's problems in this war are internal and caused by enemy sympathizers & collaborators.
If it suddenly was no longer "Chick" to collaborate with any of America's enemies this war would swiftly turn a darker hue.

Many "innocent" Aryans & Japanese died..
...in WWII in order for the good guys to win and save countless lives of those good guys.

This is a religious movement - the jihad cause to destroy "the infidels" worldwide.

ALL muslims are responsible to help the forces of good take down the eveil they currently harbor.

If they don't,the only way we will have a chance against their potential, of easily 200,000,000 martyrs gunning for us, is for us to take the gloves off and start showing them what we really can do with our power.

The fact that they "know" we will never do such a thing only serves to embolden them, as Mr. McCullough illustrates here.

Solution:

Step 1) Surround and order an evacuation of Baghdad/Al Anbar Province with the warning that anyone who stays will die. Simultaneously, launch tactical nuclear weapons on Terhan, and,simmilar to Hiroshima, give them a chance for full surrender or suffer total annihilation at our convinience.

Step 2) Begin the process of accepting and disposing of all weapons from Syria,North Korea,Venezuela etc.

America the beautiful has existed, because of America the powerful. Support our fighters. Tell your representatives that you are tired of the cowering before our blood enemies. Counter protest the muslim nazis, like c.a.i.r. and campus fans of the beheading,rape victim stoning, girl mutilaters, in our very midst and lets start taking it TO these animals.

My God, what is wrong with us ?

p.s. Shut the d*** border down and adopt the same policy Mexico has regarding their southern border (Minus the state sponsored murder,thievery and raping that is). And be willing to pay a few bucks more for stuff so that Americans and immigrants who play by the rules can get a decent wage.

MyOpine is right, Liberty
If all of the muslims we are fighting suddenly stood up, laid their weapons on the ground, and quit fighting, do you seriously think we would continue to fight THEM??

Liberty
You said: "My gosh, people. To listen to many of you talk, it sounds like you want to kill every last Muslim on the face of the planet."

Not every Muslim, just the many who are hell bent on our destruction. I, for one, do not want to wait on the next attack.

Do you find it odd that our prisons and street gangs are among the top Muslim recruiting destinations? If Islam is a "religion of peace" as Bush recently stated, why are they seeking converts among the worst of our society instead of the general population? As an atheist, I get frequent invitations from Christians to attend church as a show of friendship, but I have never been invited by a Muslim to attend mosque or any other display of friendship. Just quite the contrary.

It seems many Islam converts within our own borders are rabid America haters. Minister Louis Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam, NBA basketball player Abdul-Rauf (formerly Chris Jackson) and Al-Qaeda enlistee Adam Pearlman are just a few examples. It is only logical to assume that foreign Muslims are even more dedicated to our destruction than the home-grown variety.

2spothipshot
More damage was done and more people were killed in Hamberg & Dresden than Hiroshima & Nagasaki.
Because of the superior bomb capacity, just 3 B52s armed with thermite bombs could do that same job. Even cluster munitions could do it.
No fallout to neighboring countries, perfectly sanitary. The firestorms cause by that kind of attack are so intense they suck the air out of people's lungs.
There is no need for nukes.

MyOpine
Then perhaps Germany and Japan shouldn't have started a war with us! Sometimes, it's RIGHTEOUS that we drop bombs on people. What do you think the United States and Britain--life in Europe-- would be like now if we had not?

DONAL
I was simply trying to state that we have other affective weapons and do not need to use nukes.
I know the reason for WW2. I am a WW2 Vet.

Mars Attacks
People keep bringing up Star Trek as an analogy for the WOT. I think Mars Attacks is more analogous. The attackers don't care who we are, what we think, what we can do, or how we feel. They just want us to die.

We just need to find our "Slim Whitman" and finish this thing.

Wingo
Problem is, these suckers seem to like yodeling. Maybe a duet of BraBra Strisebiden and Phalic Baldwin would do it.

Why Imams be play'in us?
The phrase should be read'in "why conservative's be ly'in to us!" or better yet "where them there WMD's at y'all". W'ya, and Cheany are playing you all right to the bank, as is Halliburton and all the other favorite White House sponsored contractors in Iraq. Don't forget the millions of dollars that are still unaccounted for, hahhaahha.......

MyOpine
Honor for being a vet, sir. Yes, perhaps--I am in no hurry to use nukes if lesser weapons are effective.

MyOpine
Yes,that was a good point about choice of weapons...I'll just put the cover back over the button now....WHEW ! That was close...

Propping up terrorist an American tradit
Hasn't propping up mideast terrorist nations been an American tradition for a while.

Is it just the Imam that have played us?

I would say like Reagan, that half the messes were in now is because of gvoernment ,from the bad stewardship of American's money from both parties.

In 08, will vote for the idiots again, and will suffer years after for there continued bad stewardship of taxpayers monies.

Nothing new under the sun, as usual.

Nuke Happy Conservatives:
Most of you people on here are more than happy enough to use nukes against Tehran and others, but what you don't mention is the lost of innocent life that comes with using such weapons, and I'm quite sure most of you are right to life conservatives, so why the double standard?

Re; Haliburton
From another site:

"It is certainly true that during a two year period Halliburton’s revenue from Defense Department contracts doubled. However, that increase in revenue occurred from 1998 to 2000 - during the Clinton administration."

Hmmmm. Looks like somebody else was giving Haliburton contracts. Could it be that they do a good job of bidding?

82nd AD

What would you suggest we reply to Iran if they do use a nuke on Israel or Egypt or the US?

Are the "idiots" you are talking about in Congress since you won't have GW to kick around any more?
Or you talking about Rudy, John, or Mitt? Or maybe Obama, Hillary, and John E.?

Whoa
The moonbats DO come out at night, don't they ?

Oh well, if anyone wants me, I'll be flipping a coin to see if I'll be moving to the hills of Montana, after Villainy Klanton takes her preordained place in the whitehouse, or drawing the bathwater for a nice slow bleedout.

Packrat
Packrat said: "It is certainly true that during a two year period Halliburton’s revenue from Defense Department contracts doubled. However, that increase in revenue occurred from 1998 to 2000 - during the Clinton administration."

I knew it! Bill Clinton is a closet conservative.

Oh, I agree.
The Clinton's didn't spend a DIME on defense. Absolutely true.

Moderate Radical Imam
The saddest thing, to me, about the whole affair is that the Democrats, who called upon this Imam to do the opening prayer, are generally ignorant in the beliefs surrounding an all powerful God. How can I say this?

It is evidenced by their actions and their primary focus on being re-elected. Politics is their Religion. Few politicians claiming Traditional religious beliefs stick to them, unlike the Atheists. With Atheists, you know where they stand, they do not hide behind a facade of "Christianity".

A distinct lack of belief and moral foundation allows the Dems to have this Imam say a prayer in which they are not only clueless as to his words, but his intent as well.

Why is this so? Because, more often than not, they are ignorant of their own "religion", not to mention Islam. They do not care what he or anyone else says; its all good-as long as it is "tolerant". They do not respect his or anyone else's religion-unless it is "tolerant".

Which brings me back to the opening prayer. In their facade to be the all-inclusive (all-intrusive) Party of the People, they have made themselves a joke, a byword, a lesson for us all; their own ignorance proves it.

Moderate Muslims
Can anyone please tell me when there was a Million Muslim March on Washington, D.C. to protest against terrorism? Has there been even a Thousand Muslim March? I seriously doubt that the supposed "moderate Muslims" in the U.S. have the courage to even come up with a hundred men to march on Washington in protest of terrorism. I also wonder what the ratio is of violent Muslim protests to peaceful Muslim protests. The old adage that says actions speak louder than words is very true.

Packrat
There are only two companies in the world who can do that kind of work.
The other one is FRENCH!
See why no need for a bid?

Hey Kimberly
Love your new tag line.

It suits you.

Donal
You said, "If all of the muslims we are fighting suddenly stood up, laid their weapons on the ground, and quit fighting, do you seriously think we would continue to fight THEM??"

If you're saying that by them laying their weapons down, that includes them letting us establish the puppet government of the globalists' choice, well then, no, I do not think we would continue to fight them.

If they refused, you betcha, I think the globalists steering this whole thing would continue to fight them.

MyOpine
You said, "Do you suggest America surrender to Ismam?"

No, of course not. Are you suggesting that every Middle Eastern country that hasn't joined up with the New World Order, surrender?

Donal
You said, "Until you and your fellow Leftists can understand the difference between genocide and self-defense, you won't understand this discussion--OR how to save yourselves, or defend the rest of us. Quit misstating our position; if you think someone has said 'extermination', then REFER TO THE POST AND THE POSTER."

You don't have to look very far to see the calls to wipe Muslims off the face of the map. You've seen it, as well as I.

By the way, Donal, like most independent types, I have an aversion to being ordered around. Last time I checked, no one crowned you queen. So, perhaps you should take your little Nazi attitude and point it elsewhere. You have just met a REAL Conservative who loves our country and our Constitution and does NOT appreciate us being led down the path of nuclear war for the sake of some plan for world government.


We don't call Liberals idiots
Fer noth'in.

For a group that's so hypersensitive about political correctness, they sure are thick headed when they're lives are threatened.

Million Muslim March
Kimbery-You do not need to still be an idiot.

Stearman-The Council on American Islamic Relations' (CAIR) website actually has a Fatwa condemning terrorism and violence around the world, posted in July 2005. Yes, it took nearly five years after 9/11 before the American Muslim community spoke out against the "radical" fringe of Islam.

That, likely, will be all we get from them.

Kimbery-I do apologize for my rambling earlier posting, it wasn't very well put.

if you all think it's bad here
Europe is worse. I've been living in Italy now for five years and the number of muslims in my town have increased dramatically. Alarmingly, they've become bolder in their manners. Walking arm in arm with my husband, they blantingly stare at me, taunting us. My husband can't do much because he would be the one who would get in trouble (jail, lose job, be sued, etc.) not them, they have nothing to lose. The Italians are pretty tolerant, but they are getting tired of it. Hopefully, Italy will start enforcing their immigration laws soon, before it's too late.

MyOpine
I was trying to point out that Haliburton wasn't a big consipracy.

EDS run by Ross Perot used to get many government contracts because thay had the winning bid.

The Enemy Within: Hot Summer of 2006
DETROIT (Reuters). A federal judge in Detroit -- Judge Anna Diggs Taylor -- ... ordered the Bush administration to halt the National Security Agency's program of domestic eavesdropping, saying it violated the U.S. Constitution...
___________

Why Detroit? Besause the Detroit is Arab Capital of North America

“Imagine! When I first came to Detroit, I thought that I was still in the Arab world ... I live in an almost Arab city. There are more Arab things to do in this town than in my country.” ...

Coming from almost every corner of the Arab world, the Arab immigrants in Detroit have transformed areas throughout the city into replicas of the Arab countries from where they came.

© AL JADID MAGAZINE, by Habeeb Salloum
http://www.aljadid.com/features/Detroit-ArabCapitalofNorthAmerica.html


... some 10,000 people rallied in the center of metro Detroit's Arab-American community in Dearborn on Tuesday, demanding that the U.S. government put pressure on Israel ... Arab-American marchers carried signs saying "Down, down Israel" ...

"We know that the president is being bought by the Zionist lobby. We know that the (U.S.) Congress is being bought by the Zionist lobby ... " ... a speaker held a portrait of Hassan Nasrallah, Hizballah's secretary-general. The crowd burst into applause.

Rana Abbas-Chami, deputy director of the Michigan Chapter of the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, called "... The U.S. is just as guilty as Israel is. History will not forgive, nor will it ever forget, these crimes."

Many people among metro Detroit's Arab-American population say they believe Hizballah ...

BY NIRAJ WARIKOO, FREE PRESS STAFF WRITERS. July 19, 2006
__


... Naveed Afzal Haq is charged with aggravated first-degree murder in the death of Pamela Waechter, 58, director of the Jewish charity's annual fundraising campaign. Five other women [one of them was pregnant] were wounded...

"Make no mistake, this was a hate crime," King County Prosecutor Norm Maleng told a news conference. "The attack on these women was an attack on the Jewish community, not only in Seattle but throughout our nation and the world."

The gunman broke into the charity's building on Friday. According to court documents, Haq talked to 911 operators from the office, identified himself by name and said: "This is a hostage situation and I want these Jews to get out."

He later added: "These are Jews and I'm tired of getting pushed around and our people getting pushed around by the situation in the Middle East."
____

Seattle Gunman Reportedly Won US Institute of Peace Essay Contest

Sunday, July 30, 2006. According to the Seattle Post-Intelligencer: Those who knew Naveed Haq said Saturday that ... He held a degree in electrical engineering and was the son of a successful engineer... He recently won an essay contest for a U.S. Institute of Peace scholarship.

Your Taxes at Work: The United States Institute of Peace (http://www.usip.org/) is .. funded by Congress.

Packrat
You said, "Or you talking about Rudy, John, or Mitt? Or maybe Obama, Hillary, and John E.?"

There is not a dime's bit of difference between any of these folks.

Aren't they all for the following things?:
- Open borders
- pro- amnesty
- pro NON-free trade agreement (NAFTA, CAFTA, etc.)
- anti-gun
- pro- BIG government

I'm sure I missed some. Anyone else want to add to the list?


More fearmongering
The author says:

“Normally I'm a big fan of Jack Bauer and his pursuit to get the terrorists before they assassinate the President, release biological weapons, or detonate nukes on American soil. This year I'm grateful that they have played out a relatively believable storyline in terms of the dangers we face. However, I've grown ever tired of the ranting rampage of more than one character on the show this year more or less lecturing the viewers about the "constitutional protections" of those who wish us dead. I'm sorry, did I miss something?”

Actually, much of this article makes me sick. It stinks just like so much of the fear-mongering propaganda being spewed by our government and media. The goal appears to be to make us see a terrorist around every corner and be so scared that we don’t care what our government does or how much they stomp all over the Constitution, as long as they “keep us safe”. What’s worse, it looks like it has worked.

Do terrorists exist? You betcha. Do we likely have some within our borders. Undoubtedly. So why, people, do you think they aren’t defending our borders, but instead have chosen to construct a surveillance grid AROUND US instead?
- Homeland security cameras everywhere
- Illegal wiretaps
- Illegal search and seizures
- Reading our mail
- Checkpoints
- Establishment of “free speech” zones
- A National ID Card, complete with biometrics, mandatory in 2008. (Papers, please) http://tinyurl.com/yj76rs

How about tracking everything you do, everything you read, on the internet?
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/cnet/2006-10-18-isp-tracking_x.htm

Or, maybe we should follow Great Britain’s lead, change up the 4th Amendment requirement of “beyond reasonable doubt” to “on the balance of probabilities”?
http://www.prisonplanet.com/020204blunkettprecrime.html

The next step is micro-chipping US. The technology is there. The will is there. …. All under the guise of protecting us from “terrorism”.
http://www.thenewstoday.info/2007/02/02/human.bar.code.html
http://tinyurl.com/39atwt
http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=17601



Is THIS the kind of society you want to live in?


Maybe we can just install brain scanners everywhere to determine everyone’s “intentions”. Think that would be a good idea?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/frontpage/story/0,,2009229,00.html

Who watches the watchers?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/cmp/20070205/tc_cmp/197003126


The author of this article goes on to say that he hates the character in 24 that dares to talk about “constitutional protections”. Yes, by all means, let us demonize the people that point out that it is the Constitution and the form of government that our Founders gave us that made us the greatest country in the world and insured our Liberty as free people.

It is just this argument that was attempted whenever anyone tried to raise objection to the Military Commissions Act. Oh… you’re trying to protect the terrorists. For me, I don’t care one flip about the REAL terrorists, but I DO care about the fact that this legislation applies to AMERICANS too. Do you realize that? Do you understand that this one little piece of legislation effectively attempts to nullify the vast majority of the Bill of Rights? Are you so scared that you do not care? IF you are conservatives, or Americans, for that matter, you must know how important this document is and how we were told by our Founders to vigilantly guard our liberty. Have you forgotten?


“ Have we, did we set up internment camps somewhere on our soil - even after 9/11?”

I don’t know. Did we?
http://tinyurl.com/db9jj

Packrat:
Iran does not have the means to build a bomb now or in the near future so all of this fearmongering on the side of the far right is ridiculous. And plus, Israel already knows how to deal with Iran without the help of America, even the ultra-right Kach party in Israel wishes that Israel stop begging America for everything.

Imams be laughing
Great article Mr. McCullough.

My initial reaction to the Islam defenders here is dismay. How many Americans just don't get that there are folks who want to destroy us and our way of life NO MATTER WHAT WE DO OR DON'T DO? 40%? more?

We did not do anything to make them attack us. We don't have to do anything to make them attack us.

Ken the Tennesseean in another post on D'souza's article pointed out that they attacked our economic, political and military symbols. If they hate our corruption so much, why not those symbols of corruption like television stations, Hollywood, etc?

This reality IS. Get a CLUE.

Ms. Pelosi is focused on the important things: She's getting her personal chauffer to drive her about in that 757, and the first serious cut backs on the the war are being discussed, border guards are imprisioned for shooting violent drug runners. Yep. Priorities are in order, alrightio.

AARRGGHH. I WANT TO WAKE UP NOW! I want the grownups to be in charge and the children pretending to be our leaders to go play in the blue water.

God help us, and I mean that sincerely.

Word problem:
If John & Sue have 1 child, and Muhummad has 3 wives and each wife has 6 children, how many more children does Muhummad have than John?

In how many years will Muhummad's children outvote John's child?

Show your work.

The right kind of prayer....
As a Born-Again Fundamentalist "Christian," very few prayers would be good enough for Kevin.

Romney's prayers don't qualify: Mormon.
Kennedy's prayers don't qualify: Catholic.
Lieberman's prayers don't qualify: Jewish.

These hijackers of our faith let very few into their precious inner circle.
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