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Sunday, September 07, 2008
Ken Connor :: Townhall.com Columnist
The Politics of Personal Destruction
by Ken Connor
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"Here ruining people is considered sport," so concluded Vince Foster in what many believe was his suicide note. "Here" is Washington D.C., and the instrument of ruination is the politics of personal destruction.

Alaska's Governor Sarah Palin is the latest person to find herself in the crosshairs of those aiming for her ruination. Her offense? She accepted Senator John McCain's invitation to be his running mate for the 2008 Presidential election. This historic milestone of a woman running on the Republican ticket was soon transformed into histrionics. Any real analysis of Governor Palin's public record was jettisoned in favor of digging up dirt about her personal life, real or concocted.

First came the snide comments on Governor Palin's looks. Most of those comments came from feminists, the same women who decry sexism and complain that too much attention is paid to how a woman looks. Nevertheless, they are the same women who keep us abreast of Hilary Clinton's changing hair styles and her preference for pantsuits. Who can forget the vitriol aimed at Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris during the 2000 Florida recount? How she applied her makeup became more important than how she applied the law. We may have come a long way baby, but cattiness persists among the feminists.

Next, Governor Palin was attacked for being a bad mother. Suddenly the crowd who proclaims women can only find fulfillment working outside the home have become homebodies. Crocodile tears were shed over whether Governor Palin would be abandoning her children if she became Vice President. It's ironic that feminists now complain that she should be at home with her kids.

But let's not kid ourselves. Many of the folks now supporting Governor Palin's bid for Vice President would be casting similar aspersions upon her if she were Senator Obama's running mate. Their unconditional support for Governor Palin, notwithstanding her family circumstances, is, for many, an abandonment of the notion that motherhood is a woman's highest calling.

Then came the attacks on Governor Palin's family. Her husband's DUI when he was 22 years old (over twenty years ago) was trotted out to see what kind of reaction it would receive. It didn't receive much of one but hey, it was worth a shot.

The most despicable attack was directed at Governor Palin's 17 year old daughter Bristol. One columnist tried to fabricate a scandal that Trig, Governor Palin's 5 month old son, was actually Bristol's and that Governor Palin claimed to be the mother in order to avoid embarrassment and save face. The scandal was replete with pictures of Bristol from 2006, claiming she was then pregnant with Trig, a mere eighteen months prior to Trig's birth. The columnist—not one to let the facts stand in the way of a good story—still demands a note from Governor Palin's doctor before he will be satisfied.

All of this microscopic scrutiny did lead to the Palin family's acknowledgement that Bristol is indeed pregnant (five months) and that she and her boyfriend plan to marry. This, of course, led to more aspersions on Governor Palin's fitness as a mother and provided a chance to extol the virtues of condom use as the centerpiece of sex education. You see, Governor Palin believes children should not be having sex and, thus, abstinence is what they should be taught. No doubt Bristol's circumstances have reinforced her belief.

Congressman Barney Frank joined in the mud slinging by commenting that Governor Palin's home is "in great turmoil." That's the same Barney Frank who claims he didn't know that a homosexual brothel was being run out of his Georgetown townhouse some years ago.

Thankfully, the one adult in all of this has been Senator Obama. He reacted to the attacks by saying, "Let me be as clear as possible. I have said before, and I will repeat again, I think people's families are off limits. And people's children are especially off limits. This shouldn't be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Governor Palin's performance as governor or her potential performance as a vice president." The Senator went on to remind everyone that he also was born to an eighteen-year-old mother.

One blogger got it right when he wrote, "In our politics today, we don't just debate people, we destroy them." Both the left and the right are guilty of this bloodlust. The casualty count is high. No doubt many good people—people that would be of great service to the country—are reluctant to serve in public office because of the politics of personal destruction.

America will be better served if voters stay focused on the issues that face the country. Tabloid political coverage takes our focus off the important issues, and diminishes our electoral process. We can do better.

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Ken Connor is Chairman of the Center for a Just Society in Washington, DC.
 
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The Real Destruction
that occurred last week was the myth of Obama's executive experience. Palin, the #2 on the GOP ticket has far more executive experience than Obama, the #1 on the Dem ticket. His rebuttal citing his running of a campaign is pathetic and further accentuates his lack of experience. It illustrates that even he knows that he is deficient.

4th Estate's Doing Obama's Dirty Work
Wasn't it all so wonderful to watch Obama pledge that he'd fire anybody who engaged in what Vince Foster lamented about in his final warning, "...the politics of personal destruction." Wonderful indeed he demonstrated such civic and manly virtues.

It's easy to make such pledges when you won't have to fire anybody doing your dirty work for you because they're not on your payroll. The slobbering press is all too willing to smear the Palins and McCain for him.

Guilty
"Both the left and the right are guilty of this bloodlust."
How very true. It is time that the right started being the party of decency and civility. John McCain has certainly demonstrated that tendency and as much as I don't trust him I have to commend Sen. Obama for his strong denouncing of this kind of attack.
Speaking straight about the limits and liabilities of opponents is fine but when personal attacks become the MO, and in particualr attacks on children, then a line has been crossed.

Spin
The lies being told are not the only concern. I switched over to CNN a bit tonight and EVERY story about Palin had a negative connotation.

http://blog.topicaltopics.net/2008/09/media-bias-the-tricks -and-techniques/

Words of Wisdom from Grandpa

Lessons Obama never learned at Harvard:

1. NEVER bite a sleeping dog

2. When the pigs get up and walk away there is no where else for you to go.

3. You can never outsmart a trained military.

4. Never play anymore cards than you need to win.

5. He who lies in little things lies in all things.

6. When you torch your villiage your house goes up in smoke.

AND:

When someone steps into your snake pit, they all scatter.

You must be joking...
No one, not a single liberal I know, attacked Palin for her daughter's "mistake". What bothers us about Palin are these:

1. She is a pathological liar.
2. She is a crazy pentecostal, not a normal one, who thinks God wanted us to invade Iraq and that God wanted her to build a %60 billion pipeline.
3. She tried to fire a librarian who would not ban "certain" books that Palin - not the sharpest knife in the drawer thought were immoral or un- Christian.
4. She has allowed McCain's weasels to paint her as even LESS than she is, reading their speeches as if they were hers.
5. SHe has lied about her role as a reformer - big time. Even as claimed to reject "earmarks" she went after them with a fury.
6. She kept the money allocated for the Bridge to nowhere and built things like hockey stadiums for her "Maybe" soon to be son-in-law who is proud "to be a red neck."
7. She kills polar bears and defies anyone who thinks that is cruel and dangerous for the ecology. She kills other wild animals as well - she is blood thirsty.
8. To think of a inane moron like Palin in the Oval Office once McCain croaks is more than frightening.
This is nation that had better begin to look for politicians BETTER than ourselves - not "like ourselves" We got Bush and Cheney - two men, one a near psychotic killer, the other the dumbest prince in the Bush family tree. Yes, they are like the majority of Americans - but God, that's not what we need to run our nation.

myth of executive experience
George Bush had executive experience, and ruined the country. Kennedy had none and did pretty well, without finishing his term.

The executive experience argument is mythological. The presidency is about vision, justice, and systematic thinking. Only one team in this race does that--Obama/Biden.

No; it is true
not a single liberal attacked Gov. Palin. Liberals is no longer PC. They now prefer to be called Progressives, or Socialist, or members of the far left. Some even prefer to be called fellow travelers. I mean, after all, thats were all the leftist billionaire and foreign campaign funds are coming from.

Ignorance is curable, stupidity lasts forever !!

Pravda
Watching the MSM lately has reminded me quite a bit of Baghdad Bob. Remember him for the days of Shock and Awe? You remember.

The frightening thing about the press is that it now resembles Pravda. Now they don't even pretend to be impartial or truthful. They are committed to the Party line, and will tell any lie, spread any rumor, advance any smear, or attack any individual if it advances their position.

But what is more frightening than that is that nearly half of Americans think this is normal and acceptable...People like Bela who eat this stuff up and then regurgitate it as though they know it for a fact.

It is time for real Americans to start pushing back against the press, and pushing hard. They need to hear from us, loud and strong, that we are not gullible fools, and that we are fed up with their leftist slant.

It's time to hold the media accountable.

It is so pathetic!
First off, Obama claims that families and especially children are off limits, but he is gleeful about what has come out about Governor Palin. Oh sure, he won't say anything, but minions have always done his dirty work. It will all backfire and burn him worst of all, but he is not smart enough to see it.

It just makes me laugh at how hypocritical the left has turned out to be. It is obvious to all! For the first time in my memory, most of my educator friends plan on voting Republican.

Hey Bella in CA.....
Nice DNC talking points. Did you just get them off the fax machine or in a fund raising email? Nice try, but you really need to be original and think for yourself. Instead of your nitty little rumors why don't you check some real facts.

Badge of Honor
Sarah's a big girl who can take care of herself. Instead of getting our dander up at the media elites and their attempt to discredit her, we should either point and laugh, or beam proudly.

If you are being vilified as unworthy by members of the Elite Media SS like Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews, Maureen Dowd, David Gregory, Helen Thomas et al...then, and only then will you know that you have truly made it.

Hey Bella in CA,, Part 2 ...............
You wouldn't know a Pentacostal if one bit you on the A**.

Yep it's true. Someone wrote her speech just like they write the big O's speeches and Biden's speeches. Of course that doesn't count does it?

You mean earmarks like the ones that Obama has goton for Chicago?

You show your true lack of understanding about how government works. "She" didn't keep money and build Hockey Stadiums for the "rednecks". Hmmmm. I guess anyone that likes Hockey is now a "redneck" in your eyes.

I bet everyone who hunts or eats meat is blood thirsty also. Of course that doesn't include the women who kill their innocent unborn.

Here's a hint for you switch Biden's name with hers when say "inane moron".

You have no idea what she thought about the war in Iraq. As far as the $600 billion pipeline.... hope you enjoy your bicycle. We adults power or vehicles and run the industries that employ us on the oil that comes through that pipeline. If in fact she asked for God's guidance in decisions that affect her state, I'm glad.

We don't need someone who is like the rest of Americans to run our country?????? What planet are you from?

Washington Week
Yesterday on OPB's Washington Week Gwen Ifil brought up the supposed attacks on Sarah Pallin. She was upset because of Sarah's comments during her speech about the press. They went through the news people on the show and got to Jeanne Cummings of the Wall Street Journal. Jeanne became red faced and said she had "no sympathy for that woman!" She said McCain's vetting was lacking and if we weren't careful "that woman" could be one heartbeat away from the presidency in only 60 days. She said we must find out everything about that woman before such a thing happened. It was enlightening to see that much anger and angst from our non-partisan media. I don't remember a lot of vetting with Gov. Bill Clinton and he was the left's darling (then).

"Both sides" nonsense
Both sides insult the other yes.

But there is only one side that is pathological. That has no limit, no honor, no scruples.

There is only one side that will actually try to find out who you are in real life and do something in the real world.

There is only side that is obssessed with making sure they object to everything that they will. There is one side that acts like 5 years old... And that holds resents from the past or other parties and shoves them down your throat.

The Left in this country is sick.

Bela
Thanks for your post. Everyone needs to be reminded why left wing lunatics like yourself are marginalized and contained. Posts like yours draw votes to McCain, and I can't
thank you enough, by all means keep posting.

The hypocracy of the left is
stunning. NOW needs to amend it's title to NOLW because no conservative women need apply..of course our ladies are too smart, independant, accomplished and pretty to need that dyke support group anyway.

The dems in the MSM attack Sarah and her daughter because the young women is pregnant, completely ignoring that over 75% of their core constituency gets that way but couldn't ID the father or if she could, he wouldn't support the kid anyway. That's left to us, the taxpayers...it takes a village don'tcha know.

Sarah Palin is the epitome of the pioneer women who helped build this country, riding across the prairie with a rifle across her knees. That's how I see our republican ladies in general, contrast them to the whiny, frightened, harpies of the left who envy their strength but cannot begin to emulate them, so they attack with vicious and catty vitriol.

Sarah scares the daylights out of them, I believe she will destroy biden when they debate.




Banned book bull pucky
Bella check your fact before you sound like Chris Mathews with a trickle running down your leg.
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/06/the-bogus-sarah-palin- banned-books-list/

Great column, except for one point...

"In our politics today, we don't just debate people, we destroy them." Both the left and the right are guilty of this bloodlust."

Not exactly! In fact, not even close!

For example, Republicans have taken a "hit" for suggesting that Marxist Obama could possibly be a Muslim, when in fact we STILL KNOW little about his background. Yet, the MSM savagely attacked Gov. Palin's 17yr. old daughter, because...????

No Republican even questioned, much less criticized, Michelle Obama's decision to leave her girls while on the road stumping for Marxist Obama for the better part of a year, but the MSM has savaged Gov. Palin.

And, take a quick peek at Bob Novak's column, "My Brain Tumor" (yesterday.) Of the 40+ posts, the few that were vicious, vile, and reprehensible were from the LEFT! The rest were expressions of concern and offers of prayer.

Then, think back to when Elizabeth Edwards announced that her cancer had returned. There were only a few Conservatives on TH who even questioned, out of concern, why Edwards would continue his campaign with his wife's cancer returning.... Yet there were countless posts that shared concern and offers of prayers for her and her family...

BUT, the comments that those on the left posted about Tony Snow were vie, heinous, egregious, shameful, and inexcusable.

Sorry, there is no comparison between the left and the right when it comes to guilty or quantity of bloodlust!



Joseph Geobbels
would be so proud ot today's liberals and their NAZI propaganda machine: the Main Stream Media.

And for those who don't know, NAZI is just another flavor of socialism.

Molon Labe!

Left attacks seem to have backfired!

According the Rasmussen numbers yesterday...

51% believe that Gov. Sarah Palin and her family have been treated unfairly by the MSM.

24% of the "undecided" voters have now decided to vote for the GOP, in part because of the MSM unfair treatment of the Palin and her family.


Personal destruction in
politics was mainstreamed when Hillary Clinton whined about it back in the 1990's. Hillary felt that too many people where going after her hubby because of his tendency to cheat on her. She blamed the Republicans.

The MSM plays advocacy politics, having ceased to be impartial chroniclers of events. This includes pragmatism, i.e., say or do anything that will get your side elected. In that vein, Machiavelli wrote that, "the ends justified the means."

No one has explained why it is that socialism is preferable to capitalism. Even Bella (@ 1:15 AM) has to rely on specious regurgitation of far-left bloggers. Certainly the MSM hasn't deemed it necessary to explain its championing of Obamaism.

The left obviously has no justification for socialism (the "ends") and therefore resorts simply to pragmatic politics a la simpletons like Bella.

Hillary must be rolling over in her grave.


Palin is the Am. dream
of the little girl who grew up in a small town and rose to become pres. (veep now).

Attackng Palin is attacking the Am. dream of personal success and achievement.

The loopy left hates Am. and wants the Am. dream to be gov't support for life by taking money from the successful (so-called wealthy) and giving it to people who avoid the Am. dream by not achieving or sometimes without even trying to survive.

The Big O has tried to assume the Am. dream role, has written two auto biogs without having produced even one laudable ex. of legislation he actually conceived and moved into law either in IL or in the US Sen., which he has virtually abandoned for 19 months of pres. campaigning.

The Great O has a subcommitte on NATO and Afghanistan which he has never convened for one meeting. Maybe he would have known a little more before he spent gadzillions traveling to the MidEast for a photo-op, if he had just conducted his subcommittee meetings, part of his job as a Sen.

As the cons. base has been electrified by Palin, the 40% of independents who now make up the electorate will see her as the best example of today's woman: fully a wife and mother while also professionally achieving and committed to community and her country. WOW.

I Do Not Think It A Bad Idea
Politics of personal destruction is alive and well and I'm thankful. Without it we might know little of the candidates. You disagree? After all the digging, we still need considerable more information on Hussein Obama, his friends, the sources of his money over the years, his deals, the dirty and anti-American supporters, etc. You perhaps think that politics should be considerable less open? No, that is what politicians long for -- don't tell the truth, tell it like I say it.

Jude: Pa-lease!! If you're going to post

please have something worthwhile... {eyes rolling.}

You can't POSSIBLY really mean, "The presidency is about vision, justice, and systematic thinking. Only one team in this race does that--Obama/Biden."

The ONLY vision Marxist Obama has to that his "HOPE" is to "CHANGE" our country of freedom and liberty to a MARXIST state!

Some vision, huh?

And anyone who disagrees, how about you explain just how Marxist Obama's agenda DIFFERS from Marxism!


I chatted with Alaskans
Once Sarah Pavlin was selected to be our VP .
I went on line too all the Alaskan News Papers , TV , and Radio web sights . 90 % plus % of everything I read and heard about her was all positive . Even the Commanding General Guard she worked with closely to send a Co . to New Orleans over the past storm .
This unique real Women is BE LOVED ..... SIMPLY BELOVED in Alaska !
I don't of any Politician from either side is this Popular in America .
The last one was Ronald Reagan and before him John Kennedy .
There was one Women named AnnKennedy PBS FOUND but she was a devout Oboma fan . All these Feminist coming out against Sarah Pavlin is because she is not a far left Liberal .If she believed in Abortion on demand that would in fact still not like her but ""Tolerate '' her a little .
The Truth is : She makes Feminist look like Dog >>S.. T !
THERE ARE 30 FULL TIME OBOMA LAWYERS IN ALASKA TRYING TO DIG UP DIRT ON HER THIS MINUTE IN HER HOME TOWN AND ALL OVER ALASKA .

TeeHall: I understand your point...

but we need not destroy people to find out the truth.

There is a difference between honest investigation, and intentional personal destruction.


Destruction politics
Columnist Connor and the commentors here speak as if destruction politics is a relatively new activity. Doesn't anyone learn American history any more?

The practice of personal destruction has been part of American politics from the very beginning of our being. Americans like a fight, and to tell you the truth, this campaign had been a big bore until Palin stirred up a fracas. I love it!

Americans want to see how well a politician holds up to the onslaught and scrutiny, and how well they respond. So far, Obama responds to every little criticism like a whining baby. Palin, in her first speech, looked right in to the camera, pointed a finger and said as much, "I'm coming after you."

It was a moment that got the base fired up and resulted in millions of dollars pouring in to the McCain camp, as well as thousands of volunteers.

That's American politics, y'all. Like the old saying goes, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

To Freak Bella
When We Typical White People read the whacked out , Brain Dead and Twistd Bella Rants again You can see just how Hopeless her life really is . Imagine living her LIFE though 5 of the last 6 Administrating that were Republican .BELLA MESSAGE IS ALWAYS SHE HATES AMERICA UNLESS WE BECOME A SOCIALIST NATION WITH MARXISM IN OUR FUTURE ....... NO WAY !
Can anyone Imagine being married or even being around her unless your in Code Pink , Black Liberation Movement , A marxist , Love the Daily KOS , Move on .org . Love Castro , Hugo Chavez , The nut in Iran .
What is Sad is those seeking to guide America's future like Obama are truly racial and smoother hiden Bella when they get in office I pray not .
Bella rant is ABOUT SOCIALISM TAKING OVER AMERICA AND ENDING CAPITALISM ...ENDING OUR MOST POWERFUL AND RICHEST NATION EVER ON EARTH . BELLA SAY'S OTHER NATIONS HATE US BUT A RECORD NUMBER OF MOSLEMS AND ARABS HAVE MOVED TO AMERICA SINCE 9/11 AND ARE NOT ACTING LIKE THOSE LIVING IN EUROPE DO !
Sarah Pavlin is Middle class America . She is also not a Fraud like you , Hollywood far left Feminist or team Socialism Obama .
Lets face it your Jealous obviously every time you look in your own Mirror compared to her Bella .

But It's All They Have
It's All They Have
We should not be kind in the condemnation of the DNC running-dog lackeys’ attacks on Sarah’s credibility: after all, It's All They Have. It just sux to be a Democrat right now: no real ideas, no fathomable spirituality, and no safety nets under the platform. Surviving the media warthogs is the least of Mrs. Palins’ worries, I think, because the cattiness of the femi-nazi is just getting warmed up. Next, from the worst of them in The View, we’ll hear that her shoes don’t match her skirt (by the way, did you notice that at the GOP acceptance speech last night that a pantsuit was not present?) or, perhaps the media darlings will endlessly discuss the temerity her second youngest daughter displayed to kiss and play with her baby brother when she should have been listening to the speeches: but then, after all, It’s All They Have.

“My friends don’t be distracted by the brown noise and static.” – John Mc Cain, RNC Convention Sept 4, 2008 when protestors tried to interrupt his acceptance speech.

Rush Limbaugh: “Sarah Palin: babies, guns, Jesus. Hot Damn!”

McCain/Palin ’08 - See You at the Polls!


Both sides are not equal.
You started off strong and ended with a PC whimper...

The Politics of Self Destruction
There is no need for the politics of personal destruction. The McCain –Palin ticket will self destruct without the tabloid trashing of Gov Palin. Senator McCain is characterized as a moderate, maverick reformer, but he has chosen a genuine right-winger as his VP. Every time Gov Palin speaks on the important issues of the day, the public will be reminded of last 12 years of conservative misrule and bad governance. Every time she opens her mouth, the electorate will know that the future will be more of the same: neglect, malfeasance, and incompetence. Hopefully, she will give a lot of speeches and interviews before Election Day. We will then have some good reasons not to vote for a third Bush term. Chakaz Z.



THE SECRET OF OBAMA'S HYPNOTIC POWERS
Did you see the Obama-O'Reilly interview Thursday night on Fox? If so and you're a careful observer of Obama you probably noticed that his eyes were more glassy, dilated and hypnotic looking than usual. This was due to a psychic trick that Obama used to psych himself up for the interview; a trick that he learned from the entrancing Rev. Wright and that he uses to mesmerize the crowds that blindly follow him as their savior because of the psychic experience he gives them. This is the mysterious, hidden side of Obama, the source of his magic and witchery; that inexplicable something about him called charisma that underlies his international appeal and meteoric rise to superstardom-one of the great hoaxes in American political history. In fact, Obama made himself so powerfully mesmerizing for the interview-something he didn't do at Saddlebrook-and so impressed O'Reilly with his false self confidence and near irresistible energy that O'Reilly came away convinced that Obama was one tough cookie and anything but a "wimp."

Poor unsuspecting Bill O'Reilly. Obama may be long on inspiration but he's short on guts; he's no profile in courage as was proved by his fear of making Hillary Clinton his VP. O'Reilly, like so many, fell for Obama's psychic trick like a ton of bricks and became an unwitting dupe for his empty, utopian, spaced out campaign for remaking America and global change.

For insight into the secret of Obama's hypnotic powers click ApolloSpeaks and read my piece: Obama Maharaj Ji.




Media Deserves Bad Press
The press was once the medium through which corruption was reported and acted as the voice of and for the people. It was the media to which the people turned to learn the truth and get the untarnished facts. Today's media is as corrupt and tarnished as any politician, shady business or public fraud.

It is time to turn the white hot spotlight of public and investigative scrutiny for collusion and information monopoly on the media. This is especially true of any media personality that claims to be a member of the public press who in any way acts as a political advocate from that position. They must not be allowed to remain immune from their penchant for ruining other people's lives.

As for Obama's "above the fray" posturing with respect to Sarah Palin, why then did his pureness enlist feminists to, as one article put it, "blunt" the Palin effect? You know those "catty" feminists that believe Gov. Palin is a bad mother, she dresses funny and should stay at home. Just asking.

Dead even in polls
Latest polls show a dead heat. The BO bounce from Dem convention is gone. GOP is now on rise.

GOP must take VA and OH. Then can win by taking both CO and NV or taking any one of PA, MI or MN.

Sarah just might be the one to give GOP the edge in each of these races! No other nominee would be up to that standard!

Way to close right now!

BTW: Are the polls accurate or is the Bradley factor still out there? If it is just 2% there could be a GOP big win in the offing!

BO has a history of folding in the stretch! Remember all those big losses to Hillary when he was trying to clinch!

Apollo Speaks
I didn't see the interview. I expected (and was right) to see snippets of it replayed over and over again on FNC. O'Reilly sold out long ago. He is but a shell of what he once was. He did turn off the mike on Eric Roberts but that was some time ago. He just wants names now and will allow them to get away with most anything if they come on his program. He's still good entertainment, but not much else. I would like to see Neil Cavuto interview Ovomit.

Anne
From what I've seen and read, the Left's attacks on Palin are backfiring! And that is why The Marxist pig Ovomit tries to disassociate himself from the source of the attacks by saying he will fire any of his people that engage in them. He's a lying S.O.B. and we all know it!

Now, I just heard on fox, that Ovomit and his campaign handlers are going to USE that phony Hitlery as an attack dog, and turn her loose on Palin. That will be interesting to see! I think Sarah will show the whole world what a REAL woman is made of!

Speaking of attacks, right here on TH, we have a handful of conservatives running around trying to undermine McCain's chances of winning. These people Hate McCain because they feel betrayed by him and will not vote at all, or vote for and independent party.
We all know an independent party has no chance. But by doing this they increase Marxist Ovomit's chances of winning.

I've argued the point with some but these little men are so obsessed with attacking McCain and saying that VP, Sarah Palin is irrelevant! And try degrading her in anyway they can. And this is from our own!

They don't care one wit if This Marxist pig Ovomit and the Socialist take complete control of our government! They insist that McCain is no different than Ovmit, even worse! Is that small, narrow minded thinking or what!

They are quick to insult, and call us "nose holders" stupid for not agreeing with them. How very sad that they are so blinded by their own ego to be "right." That they don't care if the country is hurt.They claim,it will "teach the country a lesson!"


Refreshing face outside the beltway
I am glad to see someone chosen to represent the USA from outside the insiders. Obama is a socialist who wants doesn't want people to believe in his associations with Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright have any significance so he picks a good ole boy-Biden- who I don't trust either since he isn't exactly blue collar. McCain truly is a lobo. He may go by the moniker of Republican, however, he ismore independent that the previously mentioned 2 individuals. Palin- now she is a breath of fresh air from what is known now.

Obama has charisma and is a fabulous orator but he and his minions are taking us more toward a government of the government, by the government and for the government. Too bad there is not a third party for us independents.

Please note
Nowhere in his column does the author make any reference to the many articles and columns addressing the substantive issues of Palin's record in Alaska and her stand on the issues challenging America.

Instead of whining and crying the GOP should stop hiding Caribou Barbie behind speechwriters and let the pitbull in lipstick show she has the guts to face the nation.

ApolloSpeaks
It's paranoid nut-jobs like you who give us conservatives a bad name. I just DID look at your blog. I've seen more rational spoutings on DAILYKOS.

left and right
There is a book that was read in my book club called the Nazi Seizure of Power which began as a thesis for a PhD. The author interviewed individuals from 1 community after WWII. The bottom line for me is 1- don't cheerlead too hard to do away with either side because you may not be radical enough for the follow up regime. The local newspaper had supported the Nazi's rise to power but was essentially put out of busimess after the Nazi's acquired power. Almost sounds like our first amendment toting MSM today.

Secondly, the book ANIMAL FARM, shows how some are more equal than others in a socialist state. It becomes scary when you vote for redistribution of wealth, because wealth depends on your definition. There was a Bill Cosby show where as daddy Huxtable, his child approached Dr. Huxtable and said something to the effect "Hey dad we are rich because you and mom are a doctor and a lawyer" I believe the response truly captures the essence of rich. When you get up in the morning and don't have to put your pants on and go to work then you are rich. It

Wealth is all in the definition and those taxes that everyone is so eager to see raised might have to dip down to someone not near the $250K salary level. To me instead of taxes, our debtor nation needs to cut government spending.

Beware wolves in sheeps clothing. You just might be the meal.

Re: Subject: Please note
Hey bryce1,
There have been plenty of columns addressing the subject you mentioned.

Here's a concept to try to wrap your tiny mind around:
The reason there are MANY columnists is so that they can each write about some aspect of the news that they think is important. They don't ALL have to write about what YOU want ALL THE TIME.

If you don't like what Connor wrote about, go find a columnist who did!

Geez, Bella in CA!
OK, re-read your post and then look me in the eye and say that WE'RE the ones who are NUTS?????

Obviously you are on Obama's mailing list, because you sure have your talking points down.

Or maybe you just get all of your news from PMSNBC...

oh bryc-ey baby: Gov. Palin will be

hitting the liberal MSM dog and pony shows in the next few days. So don't fret your little self over it.

However, you'd best be careful about what you wish for, 'cause you will most likely be very disappointed when she goes up against your liberal lackeys...

Heck, even Geraldine Ferraro said earlier this week that she would urge her good friend Joe Biden to prepare for his debate with Gov. Palin because she's really very good!


midfielder @ 11:28 AM
I agree 100% about Bill O'Reilly. He's lost his edge.

Yes, Cavuto, Chris Matthews or (better yet) Megan Kelly are better interviewers.

O'Reilly wallows in his supposed populism, which as far as I'm concerned, only accentuates his ignorance on certain subjects, like when he claimed the oil companies were all in collusion to raise gasoline prices.

I agree, also, that he misread Obama as much as Bush misread Putin. Obama is a pure socialist; Putin is old-school totalitarian socialist.

O'Reilly, like other pundits, have started to believe their own press releases. The only one who remains 4-square and true is the master, Rush Limbaugh.

Bela id Corrupt
Seeing that you are from CA and Gov Palin is from AK, I can safely assume that you do NOT personally know her.

Your vitriol is typical dimmie invention of "slash & burn" with no basis. YOU ARE A VICIOUS LIAR!!!

Additionally, your comments reveal your lack of any moral fiber and mark you as a trashy person. I CAN SAY THAT ALTHOUGH I HAVE NEVER MET YOU because your diatribe is self-revealing.

Goshawk #37: You're spot on!

This is getting to be exciting and fun to watch.

No time to let up now though. We have to keep on working.


While you are all so busy
complimenting yourselves for not indulging in "the politics of destruction", perhaps you might just actually read what this thread says, and what you have posted.

Obama has been called a pederast, a crack addict, a muslim, a traitor, a communist, and a homosexual over and over again among by you so-called "civil" conservatives. Hillary was joyfully called a nymphomaniac, drug runner and murderess.

Now, you are sobbing in your geriatric formulas because Sarah Palin took a few hits and her Republican handlers are keeping her out of sight, out of public statement occasions, and off of television unless she can read from a carefully prepared speech. They are clearly so afraid she will be asked a difficult question that the only thing they haven't done yet is to press duct tape over her mouth.

Greetings, Anne m'dear.
I see the lunatic libs are out in force this fine Sarah Palin morning. Hmmmm...wonder what it is about this lovely woman that sets them off? Family values perhaps, love of children, pro life, pro gun, pro reality...? Can't figure it out. But anyway, I must say I do love to see a pit bull wearing lipstick.

Oh. BTW, Anne. I accidently erased your email with the Sarah Palin contact info. Would you mind getting it to me again. Thanks much.

True Independent writes:
"Obama has been called a pederast, a crack addict, a muslim, a traitor, a communist, and a homosexual over and over again among by you so-called "civil" conservatives. Hillary was joyfully called a nymphomaniac, drug runner and murderess."
--------------------
So what's your point?

Hey, Seawolf
You DO know why the leftist lunatics are attacking the 17 year old daughter, don't you.

Their own daughters would avoid being "punished" by having an abortion - or three or a dozen. Now, here is a young lady, daughter of future VP, who refuses to get an abortion. Not only that, she KNOWS the baby's father and is going to marry him.

Additionally, I surmise that he has been her ONLY sex partner, as opposed to lefty lunatics who are sexually active with numerous partners.

The loonies just cannot bear the obvious comparison that exposes their lack of morality.

Motley: Of course... I'll send it right

out to you...

My original contact info is being re-routed to some secretary (???) so it might be awhile... probably a long while before I get any kind of direct contact again.

Watch out for incoming... :-)


Latest Gallop poll ...
as of Sunday, 9/7/208:
McCain = 48%
Oblama = 45%

McCains lead is outside the +/- 2% point error.

People are starting to realize 'the (would be) emperor has no clothes'!

Question: Will Hillary throw him a life-raft?... or let him drown in disbelief and despair!?



Anne
"Oh. BTW, Anne. I accidently erased your email with the Sarah Palin contact info. Would you mind getting it to me again. Thanks much."

That goes ditto for me!

Can you send it to me as well?

Bela
Hey fruit loop you are precisely what is wrong with California.

Lies, innuendo, and gossip are not facts dumb dumb.

Connor
While this kind of behavior is indeed despicable you neglect to mention that it has always been this way in this country, including the press.

Let's have some perspective here.

Both Sides Do It
Destructive politics, that is. BUT there is a really big difference.

Right wingers jump on factual information. For example, the Obama family being 20+ yr members of Wright's church. Then they claim they never knew the man who shouts "god damn America". Attack based on facts!

Then, Michelle's "for the first time in my adult life" and America is a "downright mean" comments. Attacks based on fact!

Then BHO's circle of friends/influences. Attacks based on facts!

The lunatic left doesn't need facts! They just make up their own facts based on ????? The more outrageous their inventions, the more the libs and dimwits spread it as gospel.

jude
Hey goober, you seem to forget that JFK more than likely would have not been re-elected. Bya of Pigs rings any bells? Cuban Missile Crisis jog your memory at all? Wire tapping MLK touch a nerve? Numerous affairs while in office strike any accords?

What is it anyway with Democrat Presidents and affairs? First FDR, then JFK, then Bill Clinton. You guys really lack self control so it is no wonder you want abortion to erase your mistakes and cover your defecation like a kitty in a litter box.

Lolo m'dear. If I may be so bold.
You don't have to refer to these lib doofuses as "fruit loops" and "Goobers" to get your point across. I thought we conservatives were above all that. Of course, I do realize that to some of these boneheads--at least those that post on TH--such terms are considered compliments. Indeed, the more abuse they receive, the more it warmly reminds them of their own miserable upbringing; being abused by a succession of men sleeping with their mothers. But I ask you, Lolo, in the true spirit of camaraderie, can we not be show a little kindness to these trailer park castoffs, these NAMBLA rejects, these Code Pink Commies? Would it not be better for their psyche if we refrained from telling them we actually believe they are refugees from a dung heap. After all, we conservatives are optimistic that one day the world will be a better place. It's not necessary to let these idiots know it can only be so without them in it. So come on, Lolo. Have a heart, will ya? It's Sunday for gosh sake. :-)

Georgia Gall
Georgia Gall, please do us all a favor & STFU. I'm sure Trig is & will be well cared for by his mother AND the rest of his family. Conservatives take care of their children. Liberals slaughter them. Now go & take your BDS medication before you begin to froth at the mouth. Idiot.

Motley Crue
"lib doofuses", "boneheads"....you are too funny!


Ken
Somehow I doubt GeorgiaGal or any other liberal really and truly cares a fig about Trig.

They are just mad that he wasn't aborted. It takes courage to have children and most especially Down Syndrome children. Courage is something the left is sorely lacking of.

Ken: Isn't this amazing??? All these

lunatic liberal idiots who are ALL OF A SUDDEN SO CONCERNED about how Trig will be taken care of.....

when any one of them very well may have not had a child like Trig at all!

JUST when you think you've heard the height of their HYPORCISCY... they do one more... and better.




I work with special needs children
And the ones who do well are the ones with actively involved parents, almost always the mother, and always a mother who is a full-time mother, not a part-time mother and a full-time career gal. Loving your baby, especially the special needs baby, cannot be outsourced. It is the mother's job to take care of the special needs baby, and if she punts (like Palin did), the baby suffers.

Character Matters
Obama is a thug at best and a traitor at worst. He should be impeached from the Senate.
Character matters and ignoring his character is like saying he's Black and that all that matters, whatever else, he has done in his life which legislatively is nothing and socially something by being connected to Felons, terrorists,racists and genocidal murderers.

Whatever Happened
Whatever happened to the conservative ideal, which I ascribe to, that the best "caretakers" for a child is that child's mother? That one of the problems that modern feminism has inflicted on this nation is the removal of babies and children from their families, and into daycare centers, or handed off to hired help? That the career of "fulltime mother" is more worthy than that of "female governor" if you have young children? I see the Republican party willing to throw fulltime mothers under the bus in order to promote Palin's candidacy.

GeorgiaGal
First off the baby is only four months old, so to say she has punted is premature to say the least. Secondly working and supporting her family as well as that baby is a very loving and devoted thing to do.

Some women are quite capable of walking and chewing bubblegum.

What happened to the left and their mantra of not passing judgment on people? Just more liberal hypocrisy on your part.

whatever happened 2
Whatever happened to the conservative ideal that the most important job in the nation was that of mother ... because she who raises the next generation determines America's future? Talk to any teacher, the difference between home-raised children and day-care children is vast, and the home-raised children come out better, particularly in moral development. The Republican party has just repudiated this concept by elevating a woman to leadership who is outsourcing the raising of her children (and especially her special needs baby) to other people while she pursues fame and fortune for herself. Grrrr.

GeorgiaGal...PS!
Where in the heck did you get your definition of 'conservative ideals'?

Perhaps if Democrats would quit taxing everyone into the poor house more women could stay at home and raise their kids.

What happened to the feminist ideal that women can work and have careers as well as families?

Hypocrite is your name.

Other people?
So now Sarah Palin's husband has been sourced as 'other people'?

You people are stupid and ridiculous.

I'm not left
lobo says: "What happened to the left and their mantra of not passing judgment on people? Just more liberal hypocrisy on your part. "

You'll have to ask the left about that, I'm not a leftist.

I'm pro-life and pro-family. I also see Universal Healthcare as part of being pro-life and pro-family. It boggles the mind that the so-called pro-life party would tell special needs kids from families that lack health insurance "gee, that's too bad", while the pro-choice party is the one that wants to ensure his/her access to needed health care.

Lon
What I do know about Palin is much better than what I do know about Biden.

I have as yet to see a liberal explain how Biden is any change at all, then after that please explain his constant under handed politics over the years.

Can't wait for the karma he is about to receive. The man gives new meaning to SOB!

GeorgiaGal
Whether you realize it or not you are left.

As to health care and the government that is social engineering that you are not fit to do. Do your homework and realize that there are free market solutions to health care and also realize that little Teddy Kennedy created most of the problems with his invention of HMO's, coupled with the unions and doctors ripping everyone off.

conservative ideals
"Where in the heck did you get your definition of 'conservative ideals'?"
Focus on the Family

"Perhaps if Democrats would quit taxing everyone into the poor house more women could stay at home and raise their kids."
Most women are working for the "extras". Make it do, make it last, make it yourself, do without. One income families can and do manage to have mom raise the kids.

"What happened to the feminist ideal that women can work and have careers as well as families?"
I'm not a feminist, but I'll take a stab at it:
Women can have it all, just not all at once. Staying home and raising your own kids is very important, and other activities should be put on hold (or at least the backburner) until the kids are older. Careers are for before and after, not during, the childraising years.

GeorgiaGal...PS!
Wanting sub standard health care is about as far from pro-life and pro-family as someone can get.


A Face in the Crowd (1957)
Classic movie in which Andy Griffith's character, Larry "Lonesome" Rhodes is caught on live mike denigrating and mocking his audience. His fall from "glory" was 100 times faster than his rise, and came immediately after his legion of fans got to see who he really was. The shame was on all the people who conspired to elevate this total jerk, knowing all the while he was the scum of the earth.

Great movie, with a young, stunningly beautiful Lee Remick, who is seduced and abused by the lecherous, pedophile Rhodes.

Lib media is having their "Face" moment over Gov. Palin. Watch closely, people; they are telling you just what they think of you, and it isn't much. What a bunch of jackals, hyenas, snakes, pigs, slimey slugs - wait a minute! I shouldn't slander any innocent animal by comparing them to those dirt bags. Keith Olberman is the worst, followed by Bill Maher. Those two have already had their "Face" moment, multiple times, but a small, demented fan base and unhinged network muckity mucks artificially prop them up.

Obama had his "Face" moment with the bitter clingers remark, and it was priceless how Palin rhetorically rubbed his face in it. To me the only thing interesting about him is how he can twist, distort, backtrack, and downright LIE about whatever stupid thing he said the day before.

Biden has had so many "Face" moments in the last 30 years, no point listing them here. He is SO-OOO smart, he can get both feet in his mouth almost every time he opens it. Amazing!

I'm not a MuhCain fan, but I think I'm in love with Sarah Barracuda. I wonder what caliber she uses on moose, caribou, bear, dhimmicrats? What's her favorite snow machine? Has she ever pulled in a barn door halibut? What's the biggest King Salmon she ever caught? Can I have a ride in her float plane?

Dave said
"Right wingers jump on factual information"

Huh???

Obama has been called a pederast, a crack addict, a muslim, a traitor, a communist, and a homosexual over and over again among by you so-called "civil" conservatives. Hillary was joyfully called a nymphomaniac, drug runner and murderess.

What factual information was it you were jumping on when your camp accused McCain of having a "black illegitimate baby?"

What verifiable facts were you jumping on when you called Obama a crack addict, Hillary a murdering nymphomaniac.

Oh, excuse me, I forgot, those are the "facts" you learn from the ever-reliable TH blog.

Intellectual Property Rights
Do y'all believe in Intellectual Property Rights? The authors/singers of the song "Barracuda" has requested the RNC to cease and desist using their song to refer to a candidate they do not support, namely, Palin.

GeorgiaGal
"Careers are for before and after, not during, the childraising years."

Child raising is not one word.

I am the exact same age as Sarah Palin. I have a career and did quite well. But then again my husband doesn't have your Neanderthal proclivities and we shared equally the child rearing. He never dumped it all on me and I never dumped it all on him. Teamwork was and always will be the key.

Once again a wise person knows their strengths and their limits. some of us are quite capable of walking and chewing bubblegum. If you were not capable of doing both, kudos to you for recognizing your limitations. However do not thrust those same limitations on others as you have no right to do.

GeorgiaGal
More stupidity on your part.

"Subject: Intellectual Property Rights
Do y'all believe in Intellectual Property Rights? The authors/singers of the song "Barracuda" has requested the RNC to cease and desist using their song to refer to a candidate they do not support, namely, Palin."

No one can own a word.

GeorgiaGal
"Sounds like a plan that would work."

You neglect to mention a few things. Obama has admitted that it won't cover absolutely everyone. We already have that in the form of MediAid, Medicare, and SCHIP, that is ripped off tremendously by the medical community. Make these plans work better then I might be inclined to give more.

Putting A Cause First Can Hurt
As a political activist who has hit the news mainly in the 90's for judicial corruption while helping people who suffered at the hands of legal abuse, I must say that there are people who love you and there are people who hate you and will do anything to destroy you or cause you and your family great pain and suffering. But, there are us women who are pitbulls with lipstick and there are those of us who will stand up and fight back for what is right and what we believe in, even alone, on the front lines, for a cause that will leave this country free of tyranny and do our small part to preserve our U.S. Constitutional rights so future generations can avoid the pain and suffering of past generations. So, anyone, especially women, who step up to the plate and into the public eye know that there will be those who will seek to ruin them, but there are just as many decent people if not more who will stand by your side and hold you up and encourage you to continue on and not give up!

True Independent writes:
"Obama has been called a pederast, a crack addict, a muslim, a traitor, a communist, and a homosexual over and over again among by you so-called "civil" conservatives."
-------------------------------
Okay. So maybe he's not a pederast. But five out of six isn't too shabby.

Huh? Heart doesn't support Palin!
What a shock! Mary and Nancy Wilson (rock group, Heart from Seattle) were some of the first progressive celebrities to buy a baby, thereby circumventing all the marriage crap, weren't they?

I'll bet they have a price, just like the ditz who squawked about Rush using her song for his theme. He would never say but I bet it took 7 figure$ before she agreed to let EIB play it. I notice he never lets it run on until the lyrics begin anymore.

Heart is just like the rest of the left in that they should just keep their pie holes shut, instead of opening them and proving what idiots they are to the rest of us, otherwise known as NORMAL ADULTS.


I Get It
This the new campaign slogan for the left and the "children?" "Just Stay Home."

I'm sure that everyone on the left, especially Barack Obama at this point, wish that Sarah Palin would just stay home. Such is the fairy tale world of the libs. When faced with a serious delima, wish it away or tell it to go home.

Maybe
Maybe Sarah Palin sees the prospect of being the "primary caretaker" of her special needs son as "being dumped on"? As a impediment to what SHE wants to do? Poor Trig, to get in the way like that.

Kudos, Rose. Well said.
.

GG. Methinks thou doth protest too much.
.

My City Was Gone
Chrissy Hynde of The Pretenders even said, "My mom and dad listen to Rush everyday. I hate him!"

Bet it chaps her butt he plays her song 15 times a week, for about 10 seconds, then she goes back to counting her money.

Health Insurance and Palin
If Bristol marries Levi, she drops off of Sarah Palin's health insurance. Maybe the reason Bristol is still not married has to do with access to health insurance?

Let me know if there are any individual health insurance plans out there that will pay the costs of Bristol's pregnancy if she buys the plan while pregnant. (This wouldn't be a problem if we had Universal Health Insurance.)

Motley
"Okay. So maybe he's not a pederast. But five out of six isn't too shabby. "

Spoken like a true conservative, M! Now stop whining when the other side calls Palin names and lobs ad hominem attacks.

As far as hiding from the press, if she wants to play in a grown-up world she'd better learn to take the hits without crying like a little girl.

GeorgiaGal
Come up here to Kanukistan if you want to see what Universal Health Care is like. Do you know that hundreds of Canadian babies are born in the USA every year because there is not ONE SINGLE neonatal intensive care bed IN CANADA that can look after them? Or because the nurses are on strike? Do you know that our hospital parking lots are full of ambulances that cannot unload because there is not a single bed available for the people critically ill in them? Do you realize that this means when you call for an ambulance, none will come?

Universal Health Care does not mean that you will get top of the line care for nothing. It does mean you will get third world care and your taxes will go up by $1200 per year depending on where you live, to pay for the care you cannot get. It also does not cover dental, vision, chiropractic, or any preventative care whatever. That your company will pay extra for if you are lucky; you are forbidden to buy any insurance for yourself.

And as a first level feminist,I will say again that feminism was always about a place at the start line without anchors tied to both feet,and no more than that. The idea of men trying to jam ambitious women back into the nursery and depriving them of their shoes is nothing new. The idear of *I Got Mine* women doing the same is disgraceful.

TI.
How can a Governor of an American state hide from the press? Get real. Her record has been available to anyone with a computer from the day she first took public office, as is the record of any public official in this country. In case you're not aware, we live in what is known as the "Information Age." And the only people who are crying over her selection as VP are the liberal media and the left-wing Obama crowd. Still, you're welcome to your illusions.

GeorgiaGal...
Get over yourself ... you judgemental self-righteous twit. Not that it really is any of YOUR business... but Sara Palin stated (on the Greta Van Susteren expose film ... about her life) that she has a very strong 'extended' family support system that includes their immediate family with a supportive, devoted husband, grand-parents, and aunts and uncles.... not to mention the love of his 'big sister', Piper!

Since they are all in a better position to make decisions about their family than you are ... why don't you but your busy-body nose out of their family decisions!?

It's becoming obvious, the more you post ... that you are nothing more than an Obamite ... motivated by a 'chill running down your leg'!

Michelle O has told us "Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual; uninvolved, uninformed." ... but ... somehow in your twisted mind, the Palins' making voluntary sacrifices in their family for the betterment of the nation they love is not appropriate!

GeorgiaGal #75: Do you have a clue as to

what you're saying???

"I'm pro-life and pro-family. I also see Universal Health Care as part of being pro-life and pro-family."

Clearly you do NOT! That statement is an oxymoron!


First of all, you OBVIOUSLY DO NOT realize that "Universal Health Care" is nothing more than a euphemism for "SOCIALIZED Health Care!"

And, OBVIOUSLY you do not realize that "SOCIALIZED Health Care" means the GOVERNMENT is not only your heath care provider, but also your health care payer!


And, as your health care "payer" and "provider" not only do they have a say, but can DICTATE not only your health care, but your choices for you and that of your unborn child.


The 30,000 ft. over view is this!

You're pregnant? As your health care provider and payer, we say you WILL have an ultra sound.
If you do not, NO PRENATEL HEALTH CARE FOR YOU!

Scenario 1.
You have the ultra sound, and your baby (which the government will call a "fetus") has a birth defect. You WILL...
a. have an abortion....
or
b. NO HEATH CARE FOR YOU!

Scenario 2.
Your baby is born with a birth defect.
a. Your baby will get ONLY the health care that WE (the govt) deem appropriate and cost effective.

b. Other than that, you're on your own.

GET THE PICTURE???

There is absolutely NO WAY that you could possibly be "pro-life and pro-family" and see Universal Health Care as part of being pro-life and pro-family."

If you do, you're either kidding or lying to yourself!



Politics Of Personal Destruction,Indeed.
Liberals have been rocked back on their heels like they were hit by a rocket. They did not see it coming and that is why they are fit to be tied.

They were sure they had their man if they could just keep a lid on his background until he was elected. All the right people were working together and were so smug. Then BAM!!
There came Sarah!!

Like a pack of rabid dogs they started tearing at her. Not only her,but her family.They ripped her up on side and down the other panting,"there must be something there.We've got to find it"!!

So far,they have come up empty. Now they are saying she is afraid of the press....now why should she be afraid? They will treat her no worse than they have treated 'the little messiah',will they? Of course not.

The despicable MSM and the entertainment industry are none fit to shine her boots. They are so afraid of her and McCain,now and they will not let her see a minutes peace. I hope she is strong enough to withstand their abuse.



Character assassination and Liberals
When you boil it all down, the liberal mentality is the essence of absolute arrogance. The bottom line is that those of us who are Conservatives, Republicans, or claim to be center, center right, know what we believe and where we stand on the issues.

That liberals find it appropriate to state our values and principles in their own terms is astounding. They have no clue and yet they proclaim what we think and the errors of our perceptions. Actually, it is not just arrorgance, it is sheer egotistical madness.

Barack Obama 'wanted to join US military
Even the Brits don't believe this tale.

Telegraph.Co.Uk for Sunday, Sep 7 featured this article:

Barack Obama 'wanted to join US military'

Barack Obama has said he considered joining the United States military when he left school but decided not to because the Vietnam war was over and "we weren't engaged in an active military conflict at that point".

The statement is thought to be the first time during the 19-month-long presidential campaign that the Democratic nominee for the White House has indicated he once wanted to serve in uniform. The aspiration was not mentioned in either of his two volumes of memoirs.

Mr Obama was asked by George Stephanopoulos of ABC's "This Week" programme whether he'd ever thought about military service and replied: "You know, I actually did. I had to sign up for Selective Service [a means of conscription in case of war] when I graduated from high school.

"And I was growing up in Hawaii. And I have friends whose parents were in the military. There are a lot of Army, military bases there.
"And I actually always thought of the military as an ennobling and, you know, honourable option. But keep in mind that I graduated in
1979. The Vietnam War had come to an end. We weren't engaged n an active military conflict at that point. And so, it's not an option
that I ever decided to pursue."

Political Personal Destruction?
To all those that are smearing Sarah Palin and minding her business, a good advice is you should take a good look at yourselves and see what's inside eating you. It's just plain jealousy, which is a huge Cancer that is destroying our Great country. Some act like know it all, but they are making real fools of themselves. Even women's rights group had changed their tune, all of the suden acting like the sky is falling on top of them, just because a well equipped smart mother of five accepted the VP of her party, while having their children at home and taking good care of them. Does she lives alone? No, she has plenty of loving caring families all around her willing to help, when needed, since she will be living close to home with her husband and kids. Smearing and destroying is the dish of our times, instead to debate the important issues we are having on this perilous time. It's appalling to see their enjoyment of some people digging all kind of dirt lies about another human being without no prove at all. Forgetting that today is really funny, but tomorrow you will be in the same net that you had put that innocent person, so viciously you had attacked with all the dirt dump on her just to damage her image. God warned us to beware to do such thing, since vengeance is His, not ours. No one will be exempt of it. It's worst thing for anyone, is to be treated with His wrath. Beside, to prove a point is unnecessary to do so, just common sense.

stay Home vote 3rd party - Help CPUSA

"This fight is winnable, and there is an actual strategy to win, a strategy that consists of more than playing at revolution and calling for chaos in the streets.

Right now the elections are the most critical form of struggle; this is where we have the best shot of finally breaking the back of the ultra right. Afterwards, we will continue to build a united movement that can work to establish a real electoral alternative, and eventually to challenge the system overall.

Of course, a Democratic victory in 2008 will not solve all the problems caused by so many years of ultra-right domination, or by capitalism in general.

Swells of young people agree and have already stepped up to the challenge in the Democratic primaries, voting in record numbers and refusing to accept the idea that these elections don’t matter. In Iowa alone, the youth turnout rate more than tripled from under 21,000 in 2004 to over 65,000 in 2008, and it quadrupled in Tennessee despite the devastating storms that ripped through on Super Tuesday. Similar situations have occurred in all Democratic primaries to date.

And there is something to be said for the movement of young people that surrounds Barack Obama.

This kind of victory, which would include a total Democratic sweep in November, could set the stage for higher forms of struggle for generations to come."

Revolt with a Vote
Author: Erica Smiley and Dan Margolis Communist Party USA
First published 04/29/2008 16:21

What a croc.
Firstly, information is beginning to come out that proves that in fact Palin was not properly vetted. The McCain campaign claimed that an FBI check had been done on Palin when it had not and that all these revelations about her daughter, her speaking at the Alaska Indepence Party and Troopergate were noot learned about until a day before she was selected. McCain only spoke to her once before her selection. There were plenty of comments about balancing family and the VP on Right Wing as well as left wing blogs. The rumors about Trig being Bristol's child were not reported in any legitimate mainstream media outlet. In fact very few people would have known about it if the Right Wing outlets like Fox News and Townhall has reported about the fact that left wing bloggers had said it.

It is no fairer to Blame the legitimate mainstream media for the comments of bloggers than it is to hold the McCain campaign and right wing outlets for crazy right wing nuts. Palin was noticibly absent from any of the news shows this Sunday and has not granted a single interview since being selected. Could it be that she is unready to answer questions?

Palin is probably a highly qualified candidate, but given how the process has gone down. this should be a concern to everyone regardless of ideology.


Bristol
I believe that Bristol's Prenancy is no one's business. But I would ask every deeply offended conservative commentor on this site. Would you be saying the same thing is this were one of Obama's or any other Democratic Party candidate's child. I wish our poliics were different but you have to admit that it was Rive and the Republicans that created swift boating.

DanNV
Liberals don't claim to speak for god. They don't go around calling everyone who disagrees with them a communist. They don't refer to their opponents as domocrats. They prefer to talk about the issues and are open to hearing from the other side. Right wingers get so angry when they hear views that differ from their own that they quickly resort to name calling.


Sarah Palin is no exception
Sarah Palin is NOT an exception - there are millions of women like her.

When I first read the Palin resume, I thought I was reading the resume of my wife or one of my daughters or hundreds of other women I have worked with.

Strong, smart, exceptional shot with a handgun or rifle. Career of excellence, good mother able to out fish most anyone.

Multi-tasker, common sense able to handle almost any job, home and family.

Strong values and fearless in the face of anyone trying to attack her husband or children.

I have said for years, I fear no man and only one woman - the fear that I might fall short of her faith in me, her trust, her confidence.

She has been my best friend and advocate 42 years - long live women like my wife and Sarah Palin.

It doesn't take a village to raise a child - it takes a father and mother to raise them and one of them has to put bread on the table - why does it matter which one?

JMO
Uh, now you know better than that, the SWIFT
BOAT veterans were MEN who served alongside
John "I was in Vietnam" Heinz Kerry. And anyone, that's served side by side with another
KNOWS them quite well in wartime especially.
It's because they HAVE to watch each others back. ANd the SWIFT BOATs were MEN (as opposed to the gigolo Kerry, the metrosexual) who went into harms way almost on a daily basis, if not on a daily basis.
Someone as cowardly as John "I was in Vietname"
Kerry would put them all in danger, so YES they knew him and all his weak points and they didn't
want him to be CIC because, like ZERObama he
was unfit.
And as the mother of Navy vets, and grandmother of an active duty Navy, I wouldn't want someone
like either of them as CIC of my family. I
didn't encourage my youngest to enlist like his brothers, though I wouldn't have stopped him, because clinton, you know the guy who loathed the military and got many killed in Mogodishu because he was a chickenfool.
So stop maligning honorable men, better men than either Kerry or ZERObama could ever hope to be. DIsgusting TROLL!!!!

Nice try, GeorgiaGal, but
as you can see, no one's buying. I don't know why it is that lefties feel the need to pretend that they are moderates or even conservatives, considering that no one ever falls for it. Given that, it's almost like you're ashamed of who you are...

JMO51: Swiftboating was created by...
the left to demonize those (those who served with Kerry) who brought out the truth about Kerry's service. Rove was nowhere around.

*** "Liberals don't claim to speak for god. They don't go around calling everyone who disagrees with them a communist. They don't refer to their opponents as domocrats. They prefer to talk about the issues and are open to hearing from the other side. Right wingers get so angry when they hear views that differ from their own that they quickly resort to name calling." ***

What exquisite, biting satire. I thought that you were serious. You really had me going!

Hey, wait. Your "Loyal Democrat"! Don't deny it!

THE ARTICLE
The politics of personal destruction has become the norm. Too many people are not smart enough, or informed, to understand the real issues.
Many bloggers and media types are too impressed with their self-importance and just ramble on like idiots.
Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I grew up in a distant time when children were taught how to maintain a civil discourse by their parents.
All of the personal viscousness and nasty remarks further nothing except cluttering up the web with garbage.

http://www.lloydpweaver.net

JMO51
I love satire. You are so good at it,I didn't recognize it at first.That's the beauty of satire. Sarcasm at it's finest.

I have read several of your posts in the past weeks. They sound plausible and so do you,if it is satire. Otherwise, you are in serious need of a dose of reality.


Just for the record
Men on Kerry's Boat were all in support of him. The Swift Boaters at best knew Kerry but did not serve with him. Their lies about his military service were debunked, but it did not matter it created enough doubt to tarnish his record. The Swift Boater's were pro war vets who were angry at Kerry because of his anti-war positions when he returned home. That part of their criticism was at least legitimate. He did oppose the war when he returned home.

Their is no doubt that the swift boat ads were orchestrated at the highest levels of the RNC. Also lets talk for a moment about the horrible rumors that the Bush people created about McCain in South Carolina that he fathered an illegitimate black child.

For Federalist
Is 0blahma trying to spin that he got REJECTED by the military with "I considered joining the military"?

Character Assassination of Palin
Obama said that we don't want the same old attack politics and slash & burn politics. He said we're going to run a different campaign and keep it positive. However that was just another one of the lies. A friend emailed a photo to me of Sarah Palin. She was in a stars and stripes bikini and was holding a gun, though it looked like a BB gun. So the intent here was clearly a character assassination of Governor Palin. It's the oldest trick in the book to destroy the credibility of a person when you don't have any legitimate arguments. However, the photo was a fraud, just like Obama. It was created by someone from the Obama campaign using Photoshop to put Governor Palin's head on the body of a woman named Elizabeth in a photo taken in Georgia in 2006.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_sarah_palin_bikini _pic.htm

This is just another example of Obama following Marxist Alinsky's Rules for Radicals, Rule #5:
"RULE 5: "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon." There is no defense. It's irrational. It's infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions."

Yo Goshawk! Excellent post
as usual. There was a time when I had the utmost respect for Brian. I thought his essays on the Island were always thoughtful and well written. Now his despicable treatment of you and his fellow Brianistas trying to help MSM dig up dirt to smear Sarah Palin and sabotage a possible Republican victory crosses the line. That respect is flushed down the toilet. If he and his fellow Brianistas want to cut their noses off to spite their faces, I say have it.
Turning our country over to the Marxists and Facists to punish the Republicans is above my pay grade to understand.


Libel and slander part 1
libel -1 a: a written statement in which a plaintiff in certain courts sets forth the cause of action or the relief sought barchaic : a handbill especially attacking or defaming someone
2 a: a written or oral defamatory statement or representation that conveys an unjustly unfavorable impression b (1): a statement or representation published without just cause and tending to expose another to public contempt (2): defamation of a person by written or representational means (3): the publication of blasphemous, treasonable, seditious, or obscene writings or pictures (4): the act, tort, or crime of publishing such a libel

Slander 1 : the utterance of false charges or misrepresentations which defame and damage another's reputation
2 : a false and defamatory oral statement about a person — compare libel

Meriam-Webster.com

Libel and slander part 2
These are 2 actions that are punishable at least in civil court. Our judicial system need to severely punish those who take this path of personal destruction when party hacks on either side use these tactics to silence their opponents. It is easy to tell the difference between legitimate "attacks" vs. libel and slander. The former is based on facts while the latter is baseless, vitriol designed to censor opposition. The party hack ridiculing Gov Palin and her daughter should be charged with libel and slander. Those claiming Sen Obamba should also be charged. If they have evidence, then let them produce it in court.

Shaka Zulu
You are a typical DOLT, the only reason you are voting O'Bami is he looks like he is African. The "Real Shaka" would appreciate the fire of Sarah Palin and be attracted to her formidable presence. So go for it Chaka Go get Obambi, he will give it to you hard real hard..... Cheers

willibeaux
Thanks, I agree and feel the same. You know, the hatred for McCain with this band of so-called conservatives. Must be so strong that they're willing to sabotage the election if they can. ( I thought that's what Liberals are supposed to do.)

Even though there is tons of info out there about Obama, proving his Muslim and communist background and training They claim McCain is worse! And don't care if Obama gets in. Or how much damage Obama and the Dimo/Libs/Socialists do to the country. They claim "THEY" are going to teach the Republican party a lesson!

Even when the Marxist Ovomt tells everyone that he is going to tax the crap out of us, wants us to adhere to UN dictates, and the international courts. Wants to steal 700 billion dollars of our tax money for his grand scheme of world poverty. Just to name a few.
They ignore it as though it won't happen!

Then to join in with the Liberals in their attempts to degrade Sarah Palin. Is just to much! The Brianistas, as you called them. Have lost it! Gone over the edge!

Willibeaux, Goshawk
The recent activities of The Bianisitas is distressing. If they think that they can punish their party and country simply because they fell that conservatism has been abandoned, I guess that's their right. But to argue with and insult everyone who has a different take on things is not ok.
Feel free to stop in at The Gimp Wonders for my take on that.

Qaddafi says....
Libya's ruler states that Obama is a Muslim, regardless of what the American news media says.
This remark hearkens back to Obama saying Reverend Wright "brought him to Christianity."
I've thought from the beginning that Obama calculated that joining Wright's church was his (Obama's) path to political dreams.
Was he or was he not a Christian (according to him he was) before Reverend Wright? The Democrats insist that Sarah Palin wasn't "vetted" properly. I want to know what they, or Obama, are hiding from Americans? If Qaddafi knows anything, it's Islam.
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