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Thursday, June 26, 2008
Ken Blackwell :: Townhall.com Columnist
The Energy Quagmire
by Ken Blackwell
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America is in a worsening energy crisis, and the increasing consumer costs associated with it are wreaking economic havoc on American families. Tackling this crisis has fallen prey to presidential politics and looms large as a top-shelf issue in this fall's election.

Gas prices have topped $4 a gallon, and prices are soaring across all sectors of the economy because of the impact of fuel prices on businesses.

Families are hurting. It's worse than just having to cut back on family vacations and travel, or not being able to visit each other. It's sapping money out of the paychecks of families, money that would otherwise go to funding non-public schools, college, retirement, buying or paying off a home loan, or getting out of credit card debt. Energy prices are undermining family independence.

Voters are demanding action and the presidential candidates are scurrying around in response.

Barack Obama is proposing taxing the profits of oil companies while vigorously opposing any additional oil exploration and nuclear power. Even the liberal L.A. Times blasted his approach this week. And a former Democratic senator of Louisiana, John Breaux, said taxing companies will not generate a single barrel of oil.

Enter John McCain. He advocates building dozens of new nuclear power plants, building new refineries, and now supports aggressive oil exploration on the American continent and other locations. That would be an enormous step in the right direction. This week he said that he would create a $300 million prize for any person or group that can create a battery for electric cars meeting the needs of the average driver.

President Bush just has proposed an eco-friendly energy plan, largely on the same page as Mr. McCain. Among other things, he proposes drilling on the continental shelf and extracting oil from the shale rock of the Rocky Mountains.

The McCain and Bush plans aim to meet our domestic energy needs, and eventually move us away from foreign suppliers. Right now, the world consumes almost 86.4 million barrels of oil per day, and only produces 86.5 million barrels. America consumes about 20 million barrels a day. That tightness of supply and demand accounts for most of the runaway prices.

The supply numbers are staggering. Everyone acknowledges that there are at least 18 billion barrels of oil under the continental shelf, and possibly as much as 95 billion. Tens of billions more are found in various states nationwide.

But the mother lode is in shale rock. It's estimated that the Saudis have about 260 billion barrels under their sand. By comparison, with current technology, we can safely recover more than 800 billion barrels of the estimated 7 trillion barrels of oil in the shale rock from the Rocky Mountains. That means that current technology could give us more than three times the entire national resources of oil-rich Saudi Arabia.

Extracting oil from shale rock only recently has become economically feasible. It costs about $70 per barrel to extract and make the oil usable. When oil was $18 a barrel that would have been crazy. But at $138 a barrel, it's a bargain. And American companies can make money by supplying our nation's need, and lowering costs for all of us in the process.

Speaking of profits, don't buy into this tax-the-company mentality. If people want to criticize how much oil executives are paid, that's one thing. But the profits go to you and me. Almost two-thirds of oil-company stock is owned by mutual funds and pension funds. That means taxing those profits would decrease the return on your 401k or IRA. And most of those pension funds serve union members. So taxing those profits would hurt middle- and working-class Americans. That's unacceptable.

We need to find more domestic oil and get it. We need more refining. And we need to aggressively expand alternative energy while we build dozens of next-generation nuclear reactors. Finally, we need to create new models of cars that use no petroleum fuels at all. We need to do all these things starting now. Energy is a major issue, and could decide this fall's presidential election.

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McCain's another lying political hack

McCain's flip-flop on offshore drilling was nothing more than meaningless political theater, eyewash for conservatives, as he knows the states involved will simply block it under current rules.

Until he backs drilling in ANWR, he's just another lying politician. How about letting ALASKA decide their own drilling issue? Now THAT would be meaningful, as they're dying to drill.

But, oh no! Can't have THAT. SOMEone might actually sink a drillbit into some rock somewhere.






Oil shale


We have between 1 - 2 TRILLION barrels of recoverable crude in shale on the slopes of the Rockies. Canada's development of its Athabasca oil sands have proven the technology viable and economical, and there's even newer technology for in situ extraction and processing, making the resource even more viable.

Those are the largest known deposits in the world at this time, enough to make us energy-independant well into the next century, and even a net oil exporter if we so desire.


Other alternatives
Sure go for oil shale and bulldoze mountains, drill for oil off shore and muck up our beaches with oil. there is cleaner alternatives. fuel from algae is almost ready and could be on teh market a whole lot sooner than the time it will take to build extraction plants for oil shale, or drill in the Arctic. There is only a few months they can get into the arctic, winters at 40 below and summer melt of the tundra makes it so mucky they can't get their big equipment in to drill or build pipelines.

A cleaner alternative and quite feasible and the technology will be ready a lot sooner than the drilling and bulldozing is biofuels from algae. It doubles in volume every couple of days and the process to make it in to biodiesel already exists. Or take plant matter and tur

http://www.biodieselnow.com/forums/t/18449.aspx
http://media.cleantech.com/2337/solazyme-to-work-with-chevr on-on-algae-fuel

or take plant matter and turn it into gasoline directly using genetically engineered yeast.
http://www.edf.org/page.cfm?tagID=22627

Any of these can be brought on line as soon as the oil can explored, drilled pipelines built and refineries or extraction plants produced. And they don't destroy the special places that makes the US so unique.

And the other problem if we find more oil or develop biofuels who is to say that the steel is going to be available to build the cars to burn it. China is buying up steel at a rapid rate and forcing the prices sky high.

We don't need no stinkin prizes
$300 million prize for inventing a useful battery to power a car? Ha! the IPO would net more by orders of magnitude. Don't think developing a useful product can make you wealthy beyon avirice? Ask Bill Gates ot the founders of Google.

Beyond elections and partisanship
Yes, energy is important and this author has made a good argument for shale oil, but as a Saudi oil minister once said, "we didn't end the stone age because we ran out of stones."

There are no easy solutions to this issue that could fit into partisan, election politics. This is something that calls for statesmanship and that is a far-to-rare commodity today.

We, as a nation, need to hear some rather harsh truths about energy and about global climate change. Don't count on hearing it before November.


Oh for cripes sake!
Off shore oil drilling does not mess up the beaches. During Katrina and Rita there wasn't any significant oil spill at all. In the Gulf the oil rigs act as reefs. They are teaming with marine life. The fish love it.

The wild life and fauna around Prudhoe is doing great! The Caribou herd is now huge. The polar bears are increasing. They are not decreasing. They are a dangerous bear, but they themselves are not in any danger.

Our Gov Sarah Palin is doing everything she can to get ANWR opened and operating. The plan is to build a gas line from ANWR through Canada down into the U.S. midwest. Do you understand? This gas is going into the heartland of the U.S.. It is not going overseas. In fact it is not going near any ocean. It's not going to be loaded on a tanker anywhere. It's not going to be trucked. It's going to go down a pipeline right smack dab into the middle of good old U.S.of A. where it is needed.

If the people in California and Florida do not want to help with our energy independance then fine. Let's make it a federal law they don't get any sent to them. Let them sit stranded on their freeways in a rolling brownout turned into a permament blackout. Be my guest.

We don't have freeways in Alaska. In fact we have very few roads. Most places in Alaska are closed communities. There is no road from this town to that town. We have to fly from here to there. Airplanes use oil. We have to ship and fly our supplies long distances. That uses oil. We don't need air conditioners in the summer, but believe me we do need heat in the winter. That takes oil too.

So the numbskulls that don't like oil. You can do with out. Go camp out in a cave somewhere where you will not bother anyone. Chew your cud or whatever it is you do. The rest of us will get on with life.

Oh for cripes sake!
Off shore oil drilling does not mess up the beaches. During Katrina and Rita there wasn't any significant oil spill at all. In the Gulf the oil rigs act as reefs. They are teaming with marine life. The fish love it.

The wild life and fauna around Prudhoe is doing great! The Caribou herd is now huge. The polar bears are increasing. They are not decreasing. They are a dangerous bear, but they themselves are not in any danger.

Our Gov Sarah Palin is doing everything she can to get ANWR opened and operating. The plan is to build a gas line from ANWR through Canada down into the U.S. midwest. Do you understand? This gas is going into the heartland of the U.S.. It is not going overseas. In fact it is not going near any ocean. It's not going to be loaded on a tanker anywhere. It's not going to be trucked. It's going to go down a pipeline right smack dab into the middle of good old U.S.of A. where it is needed.

If the people in California and Florida do not want to help with our energy independance then fine. Let's make it a federal law they don't get any sent to them. Let them sit stranded on their freeways in a rolling brownout turned into a permament blackout. Be my guest.

We don't have freeways in Alaska. In fact we have very few roads. Most places in Alaska are closed communities. There is no road from this town to that town. We have to fly from here to there. Airplanes use oil. We have to ship and fly our supplies long distances. That uses oil. We don't need air conditioners in the summer, but believe me we do need heat in the winter. That takes oil too.

So the numbskulls that don't like oil. You can do with out. Go camp out in a cave somewhere where you will not bother anyone. Chew your cud or whatever it is you do. The rest of us will get on with life.

Oops
Sorry, I don't know how it posted twice.

Alternative fuel
The government has been funding alternative energy. So far it is still a pipedream, and usually it's an expensive and ineffecient pipedream that can't be used everywhere. Some even creates more problems that it claims to solve.

We use oil for a whole heck of a lot more than just powering your family sedan. We still need oil, and we need it now.

Nuclear is great for generating electricity. We need more nuclear power now. If we were allowed to recharge the fuel rods there would be very little waste.

The only reason these things take so long to get up and running is because of the obstructions thrown up by the libs and envirowackos. It drives the cost up astronomically and delays things for years on end.

Algae yadda yadda might work or then again it might not work. It may not pan out in actuall practice. It could be more expensive than it now appears. It could have it's own devestating problems when attempted on a large scale. We don't need something that might work someday, somehow, for somethings, in someplaces. We need oil. When you get the algae thing worked out, and can prove it will do what you hope it will on a large enough scale, and it is economical, and doesn't cause other worse problems, then it will get used. That time is not now.

Alternative fuel # 2

We don't need phoney excuses. We don't need false promises. We need oil, gas, coal, and nuclear energy now! We know they work, and we are set up to use them.

We need energy independance. The oil supply has been distrupted in Nigiera. We are arming our enemies with our own money. We could be cut off from ME and Venezula oil tomorrow. Our balance of trade is out of wack. The rest of the world needs us to supply our own energy too. START the DRILLING! NOW!

Oil taxes, ceo's
Do we subject Oprah to windfall profits tax for her $250 million/year income which, by the way, makes an oil CEO look like a pauper?

And why do we need to seek other non-petroleum energy sources when we have so much oil? Except that is what the environmentalists say we should do ?

Electric Cars

Why can't I buy an Electric Car? I'm punished for living in Virginia.

Why are only Californians allowed to own an electric car?

Our policies regarding alternative fuel cars is beyond stupid - it is down right negligent.

That 300 million better set a benchmark of AT LEAST 100 miles per gallon. I'd double the prize if it were above 200 MPG.


Nuclear Power
Here's the electric car problem.

Even if one is available that gets several hundred miles on a charge, our electric utility production and grid can't support the recharging of thousands of these cars.

Many areas in the U. S. already face potential brownouts during heat waves and air conditioning use.

What is needed is dozens of new nuclear power plants that will produce the electricity necessary for electric cars. Also, if sufficient nuclear plants are built, then the natural gas plants can be retired reducing natural gas use and ensuring its use as a home heating fuel.

Trouble is that the lunatic leftists and environmentalists oppose nuclear power even though their gods, the Europeans, use it as their primary energy source. Also, it takes 6-10 years to get a nuclear power plant built.

The Solution!
We have evolved to the levels of consciousness required to solve all of our problems and end all threats to our survival on earth!
Please See: http://www.apocalypsenot.net

Hogs
You are all used to driving these humongous hogs that get 13 mpg. I see idiots driving Suburbans to go get a newspaper. You are all shouting for more and more oil, but do I hear any voices for better mileage cars? Nah. Read about it: we consume 25% of the world's energy. Doesn't it make sense to cut down on this rabid consumption?
For 6 years I have been driving a car that gets 48-50 mpg. The technology has existed for years. But when car manufacturers got it they are useing it to provide more power to their gigantic SUVs.

Nicely done !
Terrific article Mr. Blackwell.Simply & short.So much so that it should be REQUIRED READING for the MORONS (Pol's) in Wash,D.C.

poor canada only gets the money
the first person who comes along with an idea about how to start solving the oil mess and mentions canadas influence on oil prices. will autmatically have my support. nobody even thinks of canada and yet they are the LEADING country in supplying us imported oil. they supply us with about 43 percent of out imported oil. their prime ministed has also said that these wells are running at 80 per cent of capacity and will continue to do so. why? in helping alleviate the oil supposed shortage it would seem to be a pretty good ides. perhaps its because the companies are owned by american and english stockholders. they are in their perverted way being very patriotic in th sense that they know if they dont increase production we will be more likely to drill more wells in the united states. also millions upon millions of oil leases have been sold to and are owned by american oil companies. they are free to drill on this land or not as they choose. they dont. . it used to be that they said they didnt because of high costs associated with new drilling because of regulations. now ,with the price of oil so high that no longer applies. they have therfore gone back to th standard way of avoiding questions about what they are doing ,. they wont tell us. this oil on leased land is oil which would be available much sooner that any other oroposed drilling sites.
by the way. all those who keep insisting that they know the dates that new oil fielld would start producing if we started creatung thr wells now, is basically lieing. unless they start out by saying , " you have to make a distinction betwen the time we can start delivering oil , which is usually markedly shorter that when the well will be up to full production it take s a long timr to get from one to the other.

Blackwell, not quite right
Blackwell says, "That tightness of supply and demand accounts for most of the runaway prices."

In 1979 oil was about $30 /barrel. In adjusted dollars today's price of oil is about $46 /barrel. The difference of $16 /barrel is attributable to supply/demand factors. It clearly does not represent the bulk of the $135 /barrel price, as Blackwell wants us to believe.

The bulk of the $135 /barrel price of oil is due to the unrestrained debasement of our currency. Our own government is responsible for most of our collective miseries.

Speaking to the economics of oil shale, Blackwell says, "But at $138 a barrel, it's a bargain."

Again Mr. Blackwell errs. Oil is really only $46 /barrel. Even if we adjust the $70 extraction price, which I have not done, I do not see the real price of oil being high enough to allow profitable exploitation of oil shale.

Mr. Blackwell, are you ignorant of the facts, or are you purposely trying to mislead your readers? I like to know which.

Congress Again Dupes Public
It is the Congress that is impeding any energy policy. We have Pelosi and Reid to thank for that, additionally, we have forty years of Congressional inaction. The only action was that of ethanol (corn). Brazil uses sugar cane, Congress actually drove out sugar cane growers from the USA. Presently, we have no energy policy. The democrats are holding the USA hostage for political gain? The democrats for years have been asking for higher gasoline prices. Years of trying to get USA citizens out of their cars is finally becoming a reality. The democrats are destroying our economy and jeopardizing National Security for political gain. Going after the oil companies will not solve one dam thing but it is another delaying tactic construed by democrats out to socialize the USA and curtain all freedoms. txpoljldy

The Solution Is ;
McCain goes to Iraq and :

1) Claim surge has worked and we'll win in Iraq if he's elected but lose if Obama is elected.

2) Have Malaki make a deal to sell 100% of Iraq's oil exclusively to the U.S. at $5 below market price for next ten years and we'll keep enough troops in Iraq to stabilize his government.

3) During those 10 years start converting coal and shale oil to oil and drill off shore.


McCain's and Obama's intentions...
...are exactly the same. Though their methods vary a bit, the end result of either as president is the same. America will be weaker, Americans will be poorer. We will be less safe, and we will be less free.

McCain has said so. Obama has said so. And, I believe them.

Supply and Demand
Is one thing that is driving up the price. We have seen Pres. Bush go hat in hand twice now to beg the Saudi's to pump more oil to appease the demand. But, look at the big picture. SImply putting more on the market is not the answer. There simply will not be enough oil to satisfy the thirst for oil. US Population is projected to hit 1 billion by 2050 at present growth rates, and only a fraction of that is from immigration. China is still picking up steam, India's economy is growing and that needs energy. We are going to have to find alternative sources quickly or the oil wars are going to begin. Could it be that Iraq is the first???

We have improvements in solar energy that are almost ready. innovations in panels that will greatly increase their efficiency. Batteries for electric cars, we had good ones for the Ecar a few years ago but the patent is held by an oil company and they are not building them. Electric cars need recharging. Use small generators to recharge the batteries if the electric grid gets over loaded. The amount of gas to recharge the batteries is minimal compared to driving with gas. There are many innovative alternative energy sources that are nearly ready. The old adage of don't put all your eggs in one basket holds here. And isn't it innovation that has kept the US as the leading nation.

OH yes. China is putting twice the resources into solar and wind power that the US is currently spending.

energy
This column makes it clear we could have cheap energy again. The democrats will stop cheap energy at every turn. They will lie about what they are doing and the media will support them. The future looks bleak. Do not vote for any democrat for any office!!!!!

DEMOCRATS ON OIL
GOVERNMENT SOLUTION TO EVERYTHING

.....More regulation ...less freedom for citizens, more power to government ...

.....The Democrats solution to the present energy crisis is to regulate the Commodities market ...less free market more government control ...

.....Democrat talking points are that the oil companies are to blame because they don't want to drill so that prices will stay high ...if that is true then why not lift the restrictions on the Continental shelf and Anwar? ...if the oil companies don't want to drill then they won't go there ...

.....Why doesn't some so-called news anchor ask these questions? ...If the oil companies don't want to drill then why keep Anwar off limits? ....

.....Politicians wan't one thing only ...power! ...exactly what our Constitution and Bill of Rights is supposed to deny them ...but then, who pays attention to the Constitution anymore? .....COLOSSUS

Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha
That is the rest of the world laughing at us foolish Americans who sit on more oil and more ideas than any nation in the world and debate rather than act.
Other nations safely drill offshore, safely use Nuclear power. Which nation on God's green earth is more responsible to safely drill-Russia, China, Venezuela,Mexico, Norway, Saudi Arabi, Iran ? The answer is USA!
We are stopped by democrats and their fringe groups who control them. Please remember this in November.
The world needs us to recover and develop all of our resources because Russia will hold Europe hostage with their pipeline, the Mid-east is holding all countries hostage today so we cannot move too fast to ease this dilemma.

McCain is for CAP AND TRADE YOU DOPE!
Sure go ahead and drill! But before you decide to invest a dime in equipment and personnel, keep in mind those pesky carbon taxes and windfall profits taxes either candidate will be extracting from you. Does anybody pay any attention here? Just look at the pretty pictures and listen to the soothing voice and everything will be fine.

chicaree writes
Sure go for oil shale and bulldoze mountains, drill for oil off shore and muck up our beaches with oil. there is cleaner alternatives. fuel from algae is almost ready and could be on teh market a whole lot sooner than the time it will take to build extraction plants for oil shale, or drill in the Arctic. There is only a few months they can get into the arctic, winters at 40 below and summer melt of the tundra makes it so mucky they can't get their big equipment in to drill or build pipelines.

The above statement is reason enough why liberals should not be allowed to breed! You crackpots have been promising all kinds of alternatives for years and have delivered SQUAT! All we have gotten from biofuels is $8.00 a bushel corn and food riots in Latin America. If we had drilled in ANWR 5 years ago when Tom Delay wanted to we would have oil now. I have an idea, all of you no drill green NAZIs just park your cars turn off your lights and cry in the dark while the rest of us live our lives. I am sick and tire of your type griping that Bush is shredding the Constitution while in the name of mother earth you force us into a third world existance.

CHICAREE

.....Forget Algae ...that's passe ...I heard of an exciting new breakthrough in an alternate energy source ...DUST MITES ...yep you heard me right ...

.....Professor Aldous Bungwacker of MIT has discovered that if dust mites, which are plentiful in every household, can be harvested and encourage into a breeding frenzy with larges doses of viagra they exude an enzyme that when mixed with uric acid produces a potent energy source that can power the Country and make us totally energy independent of that nasty smelly old oil that we have to drill for ...

.....Professor Bungwacker suggests that if we dedicate ourselves to be messy housekeepers to create a good envirnment for mites and drink copious amount of beer to generate sufficient amount of uric acid we can become completely enery independent by 2015 ...

BTW if you are still interested in algae ...visit the swamps of Louisiana and the Everglades and you can harvest algae to your hearts content .....COLOSSUS

MRCMRC & InsightingTruth,Chill-Out !
Tsk,tsk...obviously neither of you do little DD (due-diligence),I do as an investor.The Saudi's & most of the M-E cannot pump more "sweet" crude even if they wanted to.Their fields are in serious decline,the exceptions are Iraq & Iran only because of decades of extremely poor mgmt of their resources are both substantial still.

The world will have to shift to what is still abundant..."sour" crude !

Russia,North & South America are where it's at.
"Sour" crude is difficult to extract & expensive to "crack" at the refinery.The "differential" between sweet & sour is where the profit is captured to make it worth going after,THAT'S WHY IT WAS LEFT IN THE GROUND & BIG OIL DIDN"T DRILL !!! $90+bbl is a go!

Sorry to burst your bubble,but hydrocarbons & "nuk-lir" (the Prez.) are the interim bridge for 20 yrs till we develop aternate energy tech.

The myth of "alternative energy"

Our technological society was developed concurrent with and designed around the use of petroleum products, along with the supporting infrastructure. Harry Potter's not going to be able to waive some magic wand and change that.

Even if some "alternate" source IS developable, it's many years if not decades away.

And once developed, then what? Again, a magic wand won't work. There are tens of millions of cars, trucks, trains, and airplanes that run on petroleum. They're not going away, nor will they be magically replaced by vehicles that run on something else. How is this new "alternate" going to be distributed? We have tens of thousands of gas stations across this country.

To change that would be such a fundamental change that it would exceed our resources as an economy; we're talking about TRILLIONS of dollars in costs, and decades in implementation.

Further, our country is only one in a WORLD that runs on petroleum. Is the whole world going to change? Because if it doesn't, we'd be screwed. And the rest of the world is even LESS likely to make that kind of change.

This whole "alternate energy" talk is pure hokum and BS, along the lines of all the hype at the end of WW2 about "flying cars" in every garage. Fantasyland sci-fi nonsense.

A medical analogy:

Doctor: "You have cancer, and the only treatment available for your type is chemo, which we need to start immediately if you're to survive."

Patient: "I think I'll wait for another cure, an 'alternate' that won't make me sick".

End result: one dead patient.

YOUR WRONG...
Roadkill58.
Is 58 your IQ ???

You do not bulldoze Mtn's pal !

It's done "in-situ".

Due some homework before runnin' yer trap.

Right, billybob

For those ignorant of the oil shale issue, here's a link:

http://ostseis.anl.gov/guide/oilshale/index.cfm


Yes, we ignored those wake-up calls...
Yes, we ignored those wake-up calls of 1973 & 1979. Maybe now, with oil at $140 a barrel and gas approaching $5 a gallon, we have finally awakened to the fact that we must become energy self-sufficient.

We need to set our priorities on not just the short-term but also on the long-term. Our economy and national security demand it. Doing the right thing will not be easy, but the most difficult task will be overcoming politics as usual. Doing the difficult things has always been a virtue of American ingenuity. However, outside of the Space Program and its by-products, American ingenuity has failed to keep pace with the world around us.

We need to start drilling now…not tomorrow! We have the technologies to do it safely and cleanly. We need to build more refineries and power plants. We need to invest in other technologies to use and produce clean sources of energy. The challenge and question is not; can we do it, but will we do it.

I hope for the sake of my children’s and grand-children’s future and the future of America; WE NOT ONLY CAN, BUT WE MUST DO IT.

We must demand that our Representatives come up with viable energy policies that address short and long term goals, making America energy self-sufficient.

electric cars etc.
These vehicles are of very little use,as they have no power.You cannot pull a boat or camping trailer.Tradesman could not transport their tools and materials.

Congressional Democrats just...
don't see the need for more energy at lower costs to consumers.

Despite all the concerns that current and future energy supplies are and will be short, the left continues to restrict our ability to access new energy supplies both domestically and internationally. The left’s fanatical opposition to developing America’s own resources in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and in the Outer Continental Shelf are well known . But less known are the policies the left supports now, and wants to enact in the future, that cut America off from international sources of lower cost energy. As the senator from Illinois, a major corn ethanol producing state, Barack Obama supports continuing a ban on sugar-based ethanol from Brazil. Allowing the importation of cheaper Brazilian ethanol would help mitigate the cost of the congressional ethanol mandate and lower the cost of gas for U.S. consumers. Obama also has promised he will enact policies making it impossible for the U.S. to import oil from Canada’s Alberta oil sands . In response, one Canadian oil executive said: “If the U. S. doesn’t take it, then we will develop other markets.”

But oil is not the only energy source the left refuses to allow increase in supply. While Obama occasionally signals he is in favor of allowing new nuclear plants to be built, he also fails to address the serious policy hurdles that must be overcome for that construction to happen. The same is true of Obama’s embrace of coal. Like NASA’s James Hansen, Obama only will allow new coal power plants to be built that have coal sequestration technology. Problem is, no such technology exists to successfully deploy carbon sequestration.

continued...

continuation....
By as early as next year the demand for electricity will exceed reliable supply in New England, Texas and the West and, by 2011, in New York and the mid-Atlantic region. Technologies like solar power are promising, but they are still only one-tenth as efficient as the cheapest fossil fuels . Ninety percent of our electric power comes from coal, natural gas or nuclear power. Wind power is growing but still only accounts for 1% of power, while hydroelectric power accounts for 7% but is shrinking as environmentalists succeed in tearing them down. In order to keep up with a growing economy, we are going to need new power from somewhere. How dark is our nation going to have to be before the left identifies where our energy can come from?

oops forgot...
the information in my previous posts came from the Heritage Foundation.

Gas @ $10.98 a gallon

That's right, folks -- $10.98!


See "Fuel could hit L1.47 a litre after Opec oil price warning" in *THE DAILY TELEGRAPH*

http//www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml

1.47 GBP (Great Britain Pound) = $2.90/litre

1 Gal. = 3.78541178 litres

Drill/extract/do whatever is necessary - NOW!

Once our oil supply is guaraneed, then, by all means, research algae, wind, etc.

It's a pity all the hot air rising from Capitol Hill can't be harnessed -- that is a "Fuel Supply" that is TRULY inexhaustable!

billybob:
You ignored the point in my post and instead invented an emotional content that does not exist.

In situ retorting is not yet ready for prime time. Currently the best way to process oil shale is to mine the shale and extract the oil on the surface.

Are your $90+ /barrel of oil adjusted dollars? Most of the current run-up in the price of oil is inflation, caused by our own FED. My point was that the real price of oil, about $46 /barrel in adjusted dollars, may not be sufficient to make the recovery of oil shale economically feasible.

billybob, try to actually read my posts before you comment on them. Especially if you intend to address me, and our resident semi-literate in the same sentence.

10th Amendment
Hey, if you believe in the Constitution and States Rights - isn't it up to the people of ALASKA to decide for themselves if drilling in ANWR is acceptable. Just what in the hell does the US Congress have to say about what happens to businesses in a specific state. I understand the very broadly defined commerce clause, but lets get real, why should we have a Senator from Iowa deciding what happens in Alaska. I know you big central government types will say that ANR is federal land, but isn't that just another example of the federal government "stealing" state property and resources.

We are losing this Constitutional Republic. Maybe we need to drop the reference to the United States in the name of our country. Oh yea, I guess there is already a movement underway for constructing the North American Union. I begin to wonder why we even have State elected Governors, hell, the federal government and congress can just appoint the Regional Commissar of their choice.

To win this energy crisis...
we have to look at how we use oil. Big trucks, tractors, construction equipment and planes need diesel and JP. They need the energy density of petroleum to work. Lite duty cars and trucks do not need to use petroleum. Plug-in Electric Hybrid Vehicles (PEHV) would be great for most people.

If PEHVs were used it would make a big difference quickly. If a 20 mpg car is replaced with a 30 mpg PEHV and they drive 15,000 miles per year we would need about 13 million less barrels of oil each year. At $120 per barrel that amounts to $1.5 billion per year.

We import about a million barrels a day from Saudi Arabia. If 30 million PEHVs were on the road they would eliminate our need to import from Saudi Arabia. At $120 per barrel that would amount to 47 billion dollars a year. Keeping that 47 billion in the US would really boost our economy.

The energy crisis isn't just oil. It is about all energy and how we use it.

@InsightingTruth
Wrong again!

In-situ recovery via both technologies currently avail. have been proven to work fine."SAGD" & "FAST" have demonstrated very good flow rates.Even better returns (80% recovery) w/ the new technology of "THAI" test project shows very,very promising results.It's also much "greener" too.

BrianR is correct
The government should have zero involvement in "alternative" energy. Let them sink or swim on their own merits. If someone develops a superior energy source, let them prove it in the market without special subsidies.

Ditto for our "dependence on foreign sources." Get rid of the restrictions on domestic energy production (coal mining, oil and gas drilling, nuclear) and let the foreign suppliers try to compete with an unfettered U.S. private sector.

The govenment isn't the solution - it's the source of the problem.

@InsightingTruth
Ooops,forgot to mention we do agree on one point as I stated in another thread on TH recently.Yes,at the top of list of blame is the FED because of the de-valued dollar.The FED is now between a rock & a hard place w/ no ammo left because of inflation of its own creation.

EV-1
The EV-1 was a pilot program from GM about 10-12 years ago. The all electric auto was offered for lease only in the sunbelt atates of CA & AZ. Lesees were not allowed to purchase the vehicles when the leases expired. GM never publicized its reasons for running the programs, but the smart money says contingent liability over the eventual disposal of the batteries and the protection of proprietary technology. The two weaknesses in the EV concept are that first, no vehicle runs on magic. Until someone figures out how to repeal the laws of physics, moving an object requires power which must be generated somewhere, somehow. All you accomplish by using an EV is shifting the source of power generation. Second, the area where I live is far from unique in experiencing a recurring phenomenon which spans a large part of every year called winter. In mid-Feb, when temps plunge below zero, despite AGW(ha ha), hop in your own Voltmobile, power up the heater and rear window defroster and there might be enough juice in the battery to get you to the end of your driveway before needing a recharge. For an historical perspective, look up the Baker Electric car from the early 20th century.

The reason...
...Alaskans have little say over their state is because the federal government owns most of Alaska. The Constitution does not authorize the federal government to own so much land, but when did the Constitution ever restrain the federal government?

billybob:
Unfortunately most people do not recognize the governments' complicity in nearly all the problems we face, both economic and social.

InsightingTruth
Oh my!
Again we agree,sadly far to many fail to realize this.
We have to get off the same page...commentators here may sense collusion.

Mr. Blackwell, are you listening?
While everyone is yelling and screaming about what the problem is with high price oil, there is one phase that everyone is trembling (including our government) in their boots over and will hide their heads in the sands over.
The following information was revealed in the book, "The Energy Non-Crisis" by Lindsey Williams - a Baptist missionary to the Alaska Pipe workers, astutely given the title of Chaplain of the Alaska Pipe Line by the oil people.
Rev. Williams was given executive position in an advisory capacity. He was never paid by the oil people but endeared himself to them by saving them thousands of dollars in counseling fees to the pipe line workers.
He attended their high level meetings and testifies that they have an AGENDA and that they intend to rule the world by oil.
Of course, you think this too far out! Surely, there are not men in this world who are that sneaky and power hungry, but they did plan the oil shortage in the 70's.
There was no real shortage! Rev. Lindsey and Ken Frome of ARCO together witnessed a well coming in on Gull Island in the Prudoh bay basin on the North Slope of Alaska.
This well was classified the next day, by our government. It has enough oil and natural gas in it to last America 200 years. IF the government would be honest with the American people and turn it loose today,within a year, and sent through our refineries, gas could be as low as $1.50 per gallon in one year and we could be totally independent of foreign oil.
Again I say, Mr. Blackwell, or for that matter, is anyone out there listening?

billybob. You wrote, reply #31:
"Subject: YOUR WRONG... Roadkill58. Is 58 your IQ ???
You do not bulldoze Mtn's pal ! It's done "in-situ".
Due some homework before runnin' yer trap."
---------------------------------
May I suggest you go back and read Roadkill58's post. He was quoting someone else, then challenging that quote. Perhaps an apology is in order.

Old programmer Reply #40
Hey good buddy, whoever you are, I am in total
agreement with you, but I will go you one better. We lost State Sovereignty in 1860 when Abe Lincoln and his bunch of Whig/Republican, Abolitionists, captured Washington and even after he was assassinated, his cronies changed the entire government structure with the forced by gunpoint passing of the 14th Amendmentt.

Grape Guy has the answers folks!
The Grape Guy says we need "statemanship!" That will solve our energy crisis, by golly.
And we need to hear the "truth" about global warming and climate change. What a grand platitude. I can feel the energy bursting out all over with the mere utterance of those precious words.
We need people who know how to get things done to be unleashed to do what they do best. Lets drill till the cows come home and then some. Yes, more nucelar energy. We need concrete ideas and action taken upon them, not fancy dancy words and proclamations.
What we don't need is mealy mouthed politicians and bureaucrats to muck up the works with "statemanship" and "truth."

Baseball Doc takes the prize
Your response to Chicaree was priceless. You can't convince him with facts, so thanks for the hilarious account of the discoveries of Aldous Bungwacker.
I hope Will doesn't come to this thread, he might go get turned on by the Bungwacker fellow.

old progrmr #40
The Federal govenrment manages a lot of lands out west and in Alaska. This is for historical reasons since it was the Federal Government that that purchased Alaska from Russia in 1867. The situation was similiar in in the lands that were gained from the Louisianna purchase, the Oregon purchase, or were ceded from Mexico after the Mexican American war (though Texas has no Federal lands since it was an independent Republic before joining the Union). In all of those cases the Federal Government either purchased or obtained the land through treaty. Even after the territories were carved up into states, the Federal Government still held onto a lot of the land. A lot of the land was sold to settlers via the homestead act, others parts may have been sold to the states or private interests for logging or mining etc. But a lot of it, especially the land that was not that valuable or was in the middle of nowhere remained under the management of the Federal Government. That is why members of congress have a say in how it is managed.


Congress/Federal Reserve - Depression
Congress/Federal Reserve is purposefully tanking the dollar by adding more federal programs.

Congress/Federal Reserve is purposefully driving the price of oil and creating a depression.

Unless the public figures this out, oil prices will continue to drive up and we will not be a self sufficent nation.

Congress are the "terrorists" of the United States.

Congress hates Americans
Kay Bailey Hutchinston, Harry Reid, David Dryer hate you and hate the United States of America. They want to put the United States in a Depression.

This is not about oil discovery, it is about creating economic chaos.

What is it that you don't you get!!

Energy , I fixed mine
Folks:
Instead of Whineing about the energy problem, do what I did and do something about it.

I searched the web and found out about building a "Hydrolizer" that makes Hydrogen gas. So now I run my cars, house, business on "Water" by making all the hydrogen fuel I need. Check out http://www.water4gas. com to start. Then search on Hydrogen Powered Vehicles to learn more.

Best of Luck to all of you.

Inventor.

#55 my bad
The US did not get Oregon territory via a purchase. The boundaries were decided through a treaty with Britain.

It is Bush/CHeney/Bernanke/Pelosi
They hate your guts to the core! They want inflation, they want an AMero, they want illegal immigration, they want chaos.

The created chaos in IRAQ to bring instability, now they are lavishing it in the United States.

Dick Cheney has oiled up and moved residence to Dubai, the same funding that created 9/11 in the US.

You dumb american fools who hold US Dollars and wear Bush/Cheney t-shirts. Love your illegal aliens, congress, federal reserve, and all the sack of crap politicians that are going to give you hyperinflation and blame it on Bin Ladin.

Listen to Ron Paul !
You Tube from Micheal Nystom of the dailypau.com. And the Republicans listened to McCain.

Oil, inflation, dollar, IRAN
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/53522

The problem isn't oil...
otherwise it would be hard to buy gas. Every place that has gas to sell, has got gas to sell, at least where I live, and I'm sure Florida is no different than anywhere else in this country. It's a dollar problem. A matter of inflation and Republicans are more to blame for that than Democrats if only they had the reins of power for most of Bush's term. We don't need more oil, we need less dollars being printed to pay for government extravagances.

“Blowing Smoke” On Offshore Drilling

Schwarzenegger: McCain “Blowing Smoke” On Offshore Drilling

Is McCain “Blowing Smoke” about Offshore Drilling?

HP-In a speech on climate change in Florida, the California governor diverged from his prepared remarks to blast supporters of offshore drilling.

America is so addicted to oil that it will take years to ween ourselves from it. To look for new ways to feed our addiction is not the answer. Anyone who tells you this would bring down gas prices anytime soon is blowing smoke.

John McCain, who Schwarzenegger endorsed in January, recently became one of those people. He explained his sudden support for offshore drilling by arguing that it would be “”very helpful in the short term resolving our energy crisis.” The Huffington Post couldn’t find an expert who thought McCain’s plan would actually provide short-term relif.

read more

http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/schwarzenegger-mcc ain-blowing-smoke-on-offshore-drilling

Oil prices
The laws of Supply and Demand are immutable. The laws of perceived Supply and Demand, however, can be manipulated at will.

Assume it costs $70 per barrel to extract oil from shale. Once a company begins the extraction process, lo and behold, the price of oil will suddenly become $60 per barrel. The folks who are currently enjoying the $140 price tags will see to it.

Then, once the shale project is abandoned and too expensive to restart, oil prices will once again shoot up to their current levels or above.

Only the guy who moves the shells around knows which one (if any) the pea is under.

blowing same old smoke
Since Reagan, administrations, economists and businessmen have been telling us that alternatives would be found when the price got high enough. HELLO environmentalist this is what we get for not having opened up drilling off shore, not having trash incinerators, not having nuclear options as the French and Japanese.
Short term relief? We have had over twenty years. How many times have environmental groups said oil is a diminishing resource? Did the democrats oppose nuclear, offshore drilling, development of natural gas or oil shale deposits in the U.S.?
Vote Obama and buy a bicycle.

I'm embarASSed !
@Motley Crue:
You're correct,problem was no quotation marks & my fast scanning of roadkill58 post.

@roadkill58...my sincere apologies to you for my being careless,it should have been directed to "chickaree".I will try to do better.

Immorality of the Dems
It is gettting high time to jail and try the Democrats for blocking Americans' right to access the people's minerals.

There is a morality problem as the elitists are more than willing to starve off the poor of America and the world by turing food into fuel and blocking energy solutions that assist those needing heating and transportation.

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