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Thursday, October 04, 2007
Ken Blackwell :: Townhall.com Columnist
Eyes on the Prize
by Ken Blackwell
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Republicans were stunned this week by news that prominent social conservative leaders are ready to abandon their winning coalition — virtually handing Democrats the White House — if Rudy Giuliani wins the GOP nomination.

These leaders must not lose their command focus on what’s at stake in this election. They may not get another chance to impact the Supreme Court in such a dramatic way for a long time.

Conservative voters must be prepared to support candidates who share their vision of a non-activist, constructionist Court, even if they disagree on some important issues. The alternative — another Clinton presidency — would be disastrous to their cause.

If social conservatives support a hopeless third party candidate, their dream of changing and then maintaining the Supreme Court will be lost. They must keep their eyes on the prize.

The Court has been remaking America since the 1960s, with liberal justices forcing their social agenda down our throats. The Court started inventing constitutional rights not found in the words of the Constitution, removing these issues from the democratic process.

This liberal social agenda did not come from any president. The Court created this problem; only the Court can fix it. The focus must be what sort of justices a president would appoint.

Abortion, same-sex marriage, racial preferences, and religious freedom are all ultimately decided by the Supreme Court.

We’re just one vote shy of undoing the damage. President Bush has appointed concrete judges to the federal bench, including two solid Supreme Court justices.

But, we are still one vote from the goal. Pro-life advocates make a terrible mistake if they think they’ve won. They have not. This is not a conservative Court; it is an evenly-split Court. This Court has four liberals, four conservatives, and one moderate.

That moderate, Justice Kennedy, has made it clear he will not overturn Roe v. Wade. He supports a constitutional right to homosexuality and will not roll back overreaching federal power. He also will not change the Supreme Court precedents driving expressions of faith from the public square.

The 5-4 cases conservatives won over the last year were barely won with narrow opinions, and they have lost more cases than they have won. Another conservative justice is needed.

And the next president will appoint at least two justices.

More than that, the next justices to retire are the most liberal. By early 2009, John Paul Stevens will be 89 years old and Ruth Bader Ginsburg, with a history of serious health problems, will be 76. Replacing either would fundamentally alter the ideological makeup of the Court.

Conservatives differ with Mr. Giuliani on social issues. He’s committed to balancing the budget, stopping pork-barrel spending, not raising taxes, fixing entitlements, growing the economy, enhancing national security, building our military, and fighting terrorism. Aside from social issues, that’s the entire conservative agenda.

And the social issues will be decided by the Supreme Court.

Mr. Giuliani — who was part of the Reagan Justice Department — repeatedly says what kind of justices he would appoint. He names Antonin Scalia and Sam Alito as examples of whom he would nominate. They’re exactly the sort of justices conservatives have fought for years to get on the Court.

And there are safeguards in place. Supreme Court confirmations are not what they used to be. Whole organizations focus on it. Everyone knows who’s on the short list. There’s no chance of another Souter, where a supposed conservative turns out to be a liberal. No one gets the benefit of the doubt. Remember Harriet Miers.

If social conservatives disagree with Mr. Giuliani they should work to beat him in the primaries. Why the allure of the quixotic “third party” rather than a real, principled primary fight? If the issues are life, marriage, and Second Amendment freedoms, and the objective is to win, a good bet seems to be Mike Huckabee. He is right on these issues. And, he has been highlighted by pundits on all sides as the one to watch for a breakthrough.

Several of the current Republican candidates could make strong and effective presidents. My point is that they’re all equal on what social conservatives should care about most — the direction of the Court.

Rather than hand the White House, and therefore the Supreme Court, to Hillary Clinton without a fight, social conservatives and evangelicals should make a hard, principled stand in Iowa, New Hampshire, Michigan, South Carolina, and Florida on behalf of their preferred candidate. If they are not successful, and Mr. Giuliani is the nominee, they should work hard for his victory while constantly reminding him of his intentions regarding judicial appointments.

And, Mr. Giuliani, if successful, has a responsibility to reach out and talk with social conservative leaders. He cannot go around the movement’s leadership. Millions rely on them to benchmark candidates. Ignoring them will cost Mr. Giuliani millions of votes and the White House.

If he is willing to dialogue, then conservative leaders need to engage him. Earl Warren, David Souter and others have surprised the Republican presidents who nominated them. With Mrs. Clinton, there will be no surprises.

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that's what we'll have to do
I'm a committed conservative. I'm a pro-gun Christian. I don't compromise on those things.

But Blackwell makes a great point. Those things come from the Supreme Court. They may even take up the DC gun ban this year.

I'm sick of seeing us lose one case after another on Christian rights, parents, families, free speech, and all these other things on a single vote in the Supreme Court.

I've heard Rudy say over and over that he'd put judges like Alito on the Supreme Court. I believe it. He says it too much to back away from it.

If he's the nominee, I'll vote for him. I agree we'll never get another chance.

EYES ON THE PRIZE
Mr. Blackwell,
Thank you so much for posting this very important message.
I am a social conservative Christian and it's a matter of throwing the baby out with the bath water.
You kill the baby in the process.
I was talking to my self again today when I heard that Dr.Dobson and others were considering a third party candidate.
There goes the Supreme Court I said.
Hilary Clinton wins the white house and more unborn babies are condemned to die.
It boggles my mind.
Years ago I thought the same way. I was involved with a pro-life group in Nevada called CURL(campaign for unborn rights legislation)
Trying to get the legislature to pass an anti-abortion bill.
It would pass if we inserted exceptions for rape and incest.
Some of us (including myself ) would not accept the exceptions.
We went round & round over this, until after much prayer & reasoning I changed my way of thinking and managed to change others also.
Only 2 % of abortions were attributed to rape & incest.
That meant that if we didn't accept the 2% exceptions 98% of the babies would die.
All or nothing ????????.
98 percent of babies would die.
That's what hit me so strong.
My God -we are throwing the baby out with the bath water.
This is what will happen if Hilary Clinton who is so pro-abortion(I actually say pro-death) in any case -partial birth, she won't budge.
Please, we can't lose the Court ,the thought of this happening is devastating to me.
Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
Don't kill the baby.
God Bless you Mr. Blackwell for your powerful posting.
Regards,
Robin M.
Baltimore,MD

CALLING ALL SOCIAL CONSERVATIVE LEADERS
Like many other people, I am not crazy about the first tier Republican candidates, none of whom are conservative on cultural issues. HOWEVER, it should be remembered that third party candidates have never been successful at anything except at taking votes away from major party candidates, thus guaranteeing the election of a candidate who might otherwise have lost. In other words a third part candidate is a spoiler.

Hillary is poised to cake walk back into the White House. If we let her become President, could any damage she does be reversed? I don't think so.

It must not be ignored that leftists and liberals have supersize money and talent and gold plated college degrees in arts, behavioral sciences, humanities, journalism, law, and political science that most conservatives don't have. A high percentage have no children or only one or two children. In addition, I have a theory that leftist and liberal groups assume that most parents are despots and part of their training of new members is in how to act up and be manipulative in ways no parent would tolerate.

Conservatives too often sit out elections if they don't like the top candidate, thus causing down ticket conservatives to lose. I believe conservatives ought to, regardless of whom the GOP Presidential candidate is, make a big push to elect conservatives to Senate and House seats. The last thing we need with a President Hillary is a rubber stamp Congress.

Republicans are not compelled to give to Republican groups. They can give to individual candidates.

How sad to settle
I hear the same thing over and over, throwing my vote to the libertarians is throwing my vote away. So be it. I voted for Bush in the last election because the idea of John Kerry in the White House scared me to death.
But I made a mistake. I voted for a man who has had such a terrible domestic agenda that our children will be working as serfs for the next 2 generations to pay off the massive expansions of entitlement programs. If all those who are dissatisfied with the Republican version of tax and spend would vote for a good Libertarian candidate we would have no worries about Hillary. The Republicans would be shocked into truly acting on what are supposed to be the core valuees of the party; social and economic freedom. The ultra-conservative part of the Republican party has pushed many conservatives like me out the door. I'm much more concerned about the government stealing my hard earned dollars to pay for the huge pork barrels and the millions of people too lazy to work than I am concerned about abortion being the driving force behind the evangelicals voting machine. They should be more concerned about the tyranny of the checkbook. How many of the "woe is me abortion is legal" crowd has taken a bi-racial crack baby into their home to care for? I'm proudly voting libertarian because the two same old parties are killing our country on both sides of the aisle.

The Big Mistake
Please,America,don't make the big mistake of
electing Hillary to be our next president. Even
if she was just a one term president, the damage
to our country,the economy,the courts etc would
be so bad it would take years to correct IMHO.
Keep her in the senate if you have to. She has
just one vote there. As president,she would have
millions of votes in the form of our tax dollars.

The Big Mistake
Please,America,don't make the big mistake of
electing Hillary to be our next president. Even
if she was just a one term president, the damage
to our country,the economy,the courts etc would
be so bad it would take years to correct IMHO.
Keep her in the senate if you have to. She has
just one vote there. As president,she would have
millions of votes in the form of our tax dollars.

Ditto, Free Speaker/pinekno
None of the top tier is my choice, but I must vote for the person who promises constructionist judges. The next president will make the decisions pertaining to the issues that matter to me. A president will nominate the SCOTUS, the AG, the SecDEF etc. We must have someone who honors the constitution and our military. Roe may not be overturned or modified for years but the safety of our nation depends on working toward safeguarding our constitution from those who would "interpret" even more anticitizen laws be it property rights, freedom of religious expression, abortion, super rights for gays via hate laws, free speech etc.

Rockin Robin
Right On! Except you forgot they are not so pro death when it comes to capital punishment. They seem to go more after babies and guns. This tells me they want the "defenseless ones" I don't care who writes what, and tells me how I can lose, I will never vote ANYTHING but Republican! If I have to vote Rudy just so billary can not get it, so be it. At least like peso george, he should be straight for the first 4 years before he starts to mess us over, IF he wants re-elected, and maybe by then more social conservatives" will start to wise up!


Hunter 2008!
http://www.gohunter08.com

Roberta Roberta
I.m going to shave shaggy’s but and make him walk backwards.



Yes but ...
How about the party stop treating social conservatives like the democrats treat blacks. The attitude seems to be, "What are they going to do - vote for a Democrat?"

If Rudy wins the nomination in an honest fair nominating process, then I agree that the best choice is to hold your nose and vote for the better of two poor choices. But if the process appears biased to favor Guiliani by continuing to shuffle primary dates to favor large name recognition rather than real campaigning I would consider a third party vote.

I wouldn't consider it wasting a vote, or electing Hillary - because Guiliani is the only one of the top tier candidates that will lose to Hillary Clinton anyway. He can't win his home state, he doesn't bring anything else into play.

My question for Mr. Blackwell is, "How about just making sure we've got a fair and unbiased nominating process rather than tell us why we should vote for someone who's professed disdain for our core values?"

RE: EYES ON THE PRIZE
One thing that disturbs me about this article. He has forgot the all important factor, if God has his hands on a third political party it will win the presidency. How do I know that? I am that person, I am to be the next President, and it will be a new political party one who's platfor is based on the word of God without compromise.

When this party arises don't be concerned about if they have the ability to win. All you have to do is determine if it is a party sent by God. If you determine that it is, get behind it, and get ready to elect the new president that holds the same values that the word of God holds. And will not change his views because of someone telling him that the people don't like it.

One thing that I will tell you up front. I will stand on the word of God no matter who likes it or doesn't. God is my source, if he told me that I will be president then I will be president. If God be for me then who can be against me?

We are presently working to get this new party out into the open, once we do we need to obtain signatures to be allowed on the ballot, so get your pens ready. The name of this new party: "The American Political Party". Anyone interested in more information you can e-mail us at only_1_way@msn.com. Thank you for reading this. Have a great day.
God Bless,
Richie L. Wolfe

Look at it THIS WAY
Republicans CANNOT win without the Christian Conservatives. Might not win even with them. So why would the Republican party nominate a guy that has a solid lock on certain defeat? The only real difference between Rudy and Hillary is that Rudy looks better in a dress.
Nominate him or Romney for that matter and lose
the base. Most of us wouldn't vote for Bush now but he was packaged more deceptively.

Rudy, Rudy He's our Hombre
Rudy does not have to be the nominee.

Republican voters still get to decide who their nominee will be. Money only buys elections when people act like sheep. If 80% of Republicans are indeed seeking a conservative, we can nominate one. Vote in the primaries for Duncan Hunter. The money players won't like it and are trying to convince us only Rudy McRomneyson* can win. Hogwash. They want an open borders candidate. Give Americans a chance to vote for a candidate who WILL secure the border and watch turnout soar. Americans want their government to fulfill it's most basic responsibility.

The primary responsibility of the U.S. government is to protect the territorial integrity and people of this country. They have completely abdicated this responsibility. Both parties have been complicit in this. We are being told it is not possible to control our borders, enforce our laws, and thereby control our destiny as a nation. Hogwash. We are being sold out by corporations intent on importing workers for jobs that can't be exported with the taxpayers paying the true costs, financial and human. If we act like sheep and don't stop the inundation across our borders, we will lose our country without a bleat.

http://www.gohunter08.com
*(h/t portlandmom)

Mr Blackwell
Great column. Huckabee is the guy. Conservatives (libertarians or Republicans) need to understand one thing. We're NEVER going to agree on EVERY isssue.

If conservatives look for one guy that is on the "right" side of every issue....good luck with that. Huckabee has impressed me with his fiscal and social positions on most issues. On every issue, no, but I don't mind that. We have to prioritize. Is it the end all be all to have someone that is on the perceived "right" side of each issue, or do we want Hillary Clinton to be president. Holy Smokes.....Buckle up it'll be a bumpy four years.

For you folks that are pumping Duncan Hunter....he's a good man, and ought to be getting much more play in the media. Unfortunately the media picked the "top tier" candidates for us!

Ken writes:
The only real difference between Rudy and Hillary is that Rudy looks better in a dress.

OH MY GOD THAT WAS NASTY! I would not want to see them in a dress anymore than I would like to see roberta roberta in a dress YYYYEEEEEECCCCCHHHHHH!



Hunter 2008!
http://www.gohunter08.com

roberta roberta
no shaggy you wear the dress today!

Either Party will give left wing judges
Typical fear mongering by the two divisions of the socialist party. The reality is that it was Repub nominees that have given us our worst decisions. Roe V Wade was 6 Rep nominees for it out of the 9 justices. In fact Alito and Roberts both stated they will also support R v W by claiming that stare decisis trumps the Constitution thereby supporting Bush’s promise to uphold R v W. Also it was Roberts that engineered pro bono the homo case of Romer v Evans.

Repub nominees gave us abortion on demand throughout pregnancy.

banned school prayer

declared Nebraska couldn’t outlaw partial birth abortion

declared Congress couldn’t legislate to protect children from pornography on cable television

declared that a Michigan law school in part could use race as a factor in admission

declared that incumbent politicians could restrict free speech of their subjects before election.

Republican presidents appointed four of the six U.S. Supreme Court justices who voted to strike down Texas's law banning sodomites from having sex leading to anal marriage in MA done by 6 of the 7 Repub governor appointed judges .

Just the facts please, you can skip the fear mongering. We are run by the Socialist Party of AmeriKa’s two divisions. It is silly trying to claim one is somehow pure when they serve the same master.

Nominate Rudy and Complete the Sellout
Yes, nominate the partner in the law firm that represents Citgo (Hugo Chavez) and Sintra, the Spanish company contracted to build the NAFTA Super Highway. Nominate the guy that ran that big sanctuary city, who doesn't believe in the right to life, the right to defend ourselves, marriage, or secure borders. Let Rudy complete the sellout of America that Jorge Bush started. There are no such things as borders you know.
Yeah, nominate Rudy and see if Christian Conservatives are as gullible as blacks.

http://www.teamtancredo.org
















Richie
I agree with you that God can do the impossible. But although God can miracle anything he wants, he usually uses means.

In God's providence we have the choices we do. If the Lord wants an evangelical Christian president for us this term he could just move in the hearts of Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina voters and give us Mike Huckabee. If the Lord does not, then we have to choose from the available nominees.

Deskjockey
That's not what Blackwell is talking about.

We got liberal justices from both parties for years. Then conservatives started coming back. Though Nixon gave us a couple liberals, he also gave us Rehnquist. Though Reagan gave us O'Connor, he also gave us Scalia (and tried to give us Bork, we ended up with Kennedy). The first Bush gave us Souter (who was supposed to be conservative but was never vetted), but also gave us Thomas. This Bush has given us both Roberts and Alito.

All the decisions you cite above were voted against by the conservatives I just mentioned. The question isn't if it's a Republican. The only question is if they're conservative. We now have four conservatives, and they all vote against the things you list. If we get one more conservative, we flip the tables.

Hold Your Nose And Lose Your Country

Securing the border and enforcing the law is the only way we get to keep our rule of law, our representative Republic, and our Constitution. If citizenship becomes meaningless, this will no longer be the United States of America.

If the GOP thinks they can continue to import cheap labor for their donors at the expense of the citizens, they will. I will not vote for that again. If we continue to play the game of "the other guy is worse", we will lose our country. Sorry, but I will not participate in that game any longer. The GOP power brokers think we will vote for "anybody but a Democrat" so they can continue to ignore securing the borders and enforcing the laws. I'm hoping GOP primary voters give the party elites some surprises in the primaries. The levers of power and the money in the GOP are all in the hands of the cheap labor express. They do not want Duncan Hunter as the candidate. He would enforce the laws and secure the border. We have to make him the nominee by voting in the primaries. We have to talk to our friends and neighbors about him. He is not going to get media coverage. It's going to have to be a grass roots effort. I want to vote for a GOP candidate in Nov.'08, I will not vote for any of the amnesty supporters. If it takes crushing the GOP so a new party representing American citizens can arise, so be it.

http://www.gohunter08.com

Need a good Court for Second Amendment
As an NRA member, I'm worried about this Supreme Court deciding what the Second Amendment means with the DC gun ban before them. We need one more good justice!

No Surprise
Blackwell parrots so many of the columnists that write for TH. Stick together, hold your nose and vote for another media selected candidate!

What we need is a candidate with integrity. One that reads and understands The Constitution. One that actually believes in the primacy of the individual, and knows that there are NO group rights, only individual Rights.

Only one candidate, in the pool of GOP candidates qualifies. His name is Ron Paul.

His is not perfect either. I do not agree with every single word he says. However, I know, without a shadow of a doubt, that he will not vote for any legislation, nor will he sign any legislation that is not authorized by The U.S. Constitution. That alone earns my vote.

Too many self-proclaimed conservatives pretend to support The U.S. Constitution, but do not. They will vote for the person they believe will violate The Constitution in support of their personal agenda. They desire selective enforcement of the law-of-the-land. That's why they support the like of Hunter, Huckabee, Thompson, et. al.

It All Depends...
on how Rudy stands on illegal immigration. It's not clear to me yet. If he is in favor of anmesty I will not vote for him. I could hold my nose and vote for him but not if he is soft on the illegal alien invasion.

If You Listen
You can hear BrianR SCREAMING IN THE DISTANCE about this column. As I see it, Romney is fading. I don’t know why, he seems to have ALMOST everything Conservatives want in a candidate. Fred is starting to find the range. IMHO, Fred & his wife did GREAT in his interview with Hannity. I COULD BE WRONG, but it looks to me like The MSM stories about Fred & Jeri WERE LIES! Fred’s delivery, whether scripted or off the cuff, is always THE SAME! HE is what he is & he is VERY COMFORTABLE with that fact. Rudy is not my favorite, but ON HIS WORST DAY, he is still 1,000,000,000 times better than Shillary. America CANNOT AFFORD another Clinton Presidency. If it happens, before she leaves, America will be renamed USSR of Aistan.

Rocker, NY Coward, Barbie, True Cowardly Airhead, who took the rope off of my soap?
Robert Robert

monticup
Rudy has said when he was Mayor that he wanted them here, he had asanctuary policy prohibiting cooperation with ICE. He has supported amnesty or as he prefers to call it, regularization.

Stand Steadfast..Or Not
Our conservative brethren, we must stand strong and not compromise our values! Oh wait, maybe we can and should flip and flop before one primary has occurred. How does the media take away our rights as citizens to make an informed decision. Before on vote is cast we are convinced that we have noone that can win except the one candidate that shares so few of our values.

How to manipulate the masses
Divide them between democrats and republicans.
(but own both parties)
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Ken Blackwell writes:
Republicans were stunned this week by news that prominent social conservative leaders are ready to abandon their winning coalition — virtually handing Democrats the White House — if Rudy Giuliani wins the GOP nomination.
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Keep everyone in the box of party, group thinking, giving just enough to pull in the votes for one or the other.

Lie like a dog in what you really are all about with clever Madison Avenue packaging to present the image that will pull in the votes to win office.

Choosing the lessor of two evils, and getting the same product from both parties anyway, Marxism.

Trust Republicans with the Judicial appointments?
Hardy ha ha.
Read DESK JOCKEY'S POST AGAIN.

QUOTE:
Repub nominees gave us abortion on demand throughout pregnancy.

banned school prayer

declared Nebraska couldn’t outlaw partial birth abortion

declared Congress couldn’t legislate to protect children from pornography on cable television

declared that a Michigan law school in part could use race as a factor in admission

declared that incumbent politicians could restrict free speech of their subjects before election.

Republican presidents appointed four of the six U.S. Supreme Court justices who voted to strike down Texas's law banning sodomites from having sex leading to anal marriage in MA done by 6 of the 7 Repub governor appointed judges .



GIULIANI HAS PEAKED

.....Blackwell ...

.....I believe that Giuliani has peaked in the polls and has nowhere to go but down ...

.....If the situation in Iraq is stable as the Primary season gets into full gear ...then Giuliani will fade fast ...the only thing that can rescue Rudy would be a terrorist attack and National Security as the number one concern ...

.....The terrorists are politically aware so don't expect a terrorist attack before the election ...

.....I don't see another Perot or a third Party candidate unless Paul wants to go down in flames again as a Libertarian candidate ...

.....Perot was a billionaire who could finance his own campaign ...he had a personal vendatta against Bush Sr. and wanted to steal enough votes from the GOP to give the election to Clinton ...he was successful twice ...

.....I believe that SCOTUS should be a top priority for every Conservative voter ...if Hillary wins ...a golden oppertunity to have a Conservative Court will have been lost .....COLOSSUS

Republican Party is owned by
A small handful of men who also own the democrat party.

The same people who have financed every revolution and war since the days of the Russian Revolution.

Western bankers, and who are the ones who make policy behind the scenes for both democrats and republicans.

This was not idle talk, nor wasted words to beat the air with, but is exactly what has happened to this country.

Woodrow Wilson :
The government, which was designed for the people, has got into the hands of the bosses and their employers, the special interests. An invisible empire has been set up above the forms of democracy.

This is why no matter who we elect, it only gets more and more socialist and global.

International bankers and corporations own both democrats and republicans, and they play politics with the minds of the simple.

Keep voting democrat or republican and all we will get is what the super rich men who own both parties want.
One world government controlled by the financial markets, and you and I are nothing more than a consumer to their way of thinking.

Screw you people and your Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence and Constitution is their guiding principle.

Money is the power in todays America, and who has the money controls it all.

Georgetwin
I agree with you that while I may disagree with Rudy on some things (and I disagree with Thompson on some things) either one is far better than Clinton.

Defeat Hillary
In the primary, I'll vote for whoever I believe will best represent my views. In the general election, I'll vote for whoever has the best chance to beat Hillary, which will undoubtedly be the Republican nominee.

I don't care if I have to hold my nose with one hand while I push the voting button with the other. No matter what, another Clinton must not be elected to the White House.

At least Bill Clinton wasn't really an ideologue. He'd stick his finger up, see which way the wind was blowing and try to find a position to please as many people as possible (triangulation). Hillary is a true believer, a statist and believes in her on myth of infallibility.

Any conservative who runs as a third-party alternative is just a dupe and a stooge of the media and the DNC (like Perot in '92). There is no place for a conservative spoiler in next year's election.

Wake up America!
Cogent argument.

Our mantra for the next election should be: "It's the COURTS stupid!"

And Christians must work within the process.

Rudy
Rudy also has contempt for the Republican base: middle class whites. He wants to flood the country with poor immigrants who get automatic racial preferences.

Rudy would be a disaster in his domestic policies. If he is the nominee, it will be very hard to go vote.

Wake up America!
Cogent argument.

Our mantra for the next election should be: "It's the COURTS stupid!"

And Christians must work within the process.

A third party candidate..
..would insure Hillary becomes president.

When it comes down to who is chosen as the next Republican presidential candidate, a diseased ego from the losing list will then want to run as an independent. As Perot and his bloated ego did, this will take enough votes away from the winning Republican candidate to all but guarantee Hillary the crown.

It worked for Bill, and Hillary is counting on it!

eyes on the prize
It may be difficult, but a Republican president will give us a Court like we have not seen for decades. We need that badly.

Marlin
This would be even worse than Perot. He pulled from both candidates, though more from Bush than Clinton. This time, all the votes would be pulled from our side, and guarantee Hillary gets elected.

Small comfort for all of us when we see Hillary replace 89-year old Stevens with a 49-year old who will be there until 2035 or something.

Exactly
The number one reason I vote for a Republican president is for this very reason. In spite of checks ands balances, ultimately it is the SCOTUS decisions that most affect our freedoms.

retired FBI agent
I spent 26 years as an FBI Special Agent. I watched in horror what liberal judges did to our judicial system as they exercised their own legislative agenda. Quite frankly, until 9/11 I was a one issue voter and that issue was judicial activism. Now I'm a two issue voter. The next president may be in the position to nominate up to six Supreme Court justices. We cannot sit home or waste our vote on a third party candidate all in an effort to send a message...we'll send a message but it will be the wrong one if we don't elect a strict constructionist president.

Free Speaker
Only two of the nine current justices were appointed by Democrats: the two Clinton appointees. The other three liberals on the court were appointed by Republicans.

George W. Bush tried to appoint yet another liberal: Harriet Myers. It took a lot of political action to stop him. And he made exactly the sort of promises Rudy is making now. Do you really trust Rudy's promises? He does seem rather full of himself, and his statements on issues are far from consistent.

reality time
I was thinking exactly the same thing when I read the article. "It's the Court, stupid!" sounds like a good line to me.

Free Speaker
I would be comfortable voting for Rudy, Fred or Mitt.

eyes on the prize
First, it's Miers, not Myers. (Minor point, I know.)

Second, there are only four liberals on the Court, not five. Kennedy votes wrong half the time, he also votes right half the time. He's no liberal; he upheld the partial birth abortion ban, struck down part of McCain-Feingold, and struck down a racial preference school districting plan, all in the last year.

The thing is this: Stevens was appointed by Ford, who prided himself in all sorts of judicial activism. Kennedy's seat was supposed to go to Bork (a conservative) and then to Douglas Ginsburgh (a conservative). When both went down, it went to Kennedy, who many thought was conservative but turned out to be liberal. Souter was also supposed to be a conservative. But he had only been an appeals judge for a few months, and wasn't thorougly checked out.

So no one tried to pull a fast one. No one tried to break their promise.

But since then whole groups have been created to make sure that only conservatives are nominated. We now know where everyone stands. There's no chance of another Souter. So yes, I trust Rudy on this one. I'd trust any Republican on this one, because they are all on record and we have the means to hold them to it. We've also shown that we have the ability to stop a nominee we don't trust.

The Primaries
When you vote in the primaries, chosse the candidate who most closely mirrors your values. Don't buy the propaganda being pumped out by the MSM. They want Rudy to be the nominee, they know it will split the GOP.
If a cross-dressing, former mayor of a sanctuary city who marches in gay pride parades reflects your values, vote for Rudy. If not, vote for the man you think would make the best President.

The Reliable Vote
As crescen7 wrote in his or her post at 8:08 AM, the Republicans have been able to rely on conservative votes without addressing their concerns for too long.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but for the first time in my life, and for the first time in over thirty years of voting, I don't believe I'll be voting for a Republican. Why? Read Novak's column from today. Way too many Republicans have been very clear, the party would never be able to vote for someone like me because I am a Mormon, yet the party will expect Mormons to continue to vote Republican, because who else could we vote for. We can come to the party, but only if it is to serve the drinks.

Vote for Rudy if you think he's the best choice. Don't vote for Mitt if you think he's not. But all these people, including Dobson, who say they won't vote for a Mormon are pushing many away from the party and may be giving the country over to the democrats.



the end

You'd think the repubes would have learned from the first Bush disaster when Perot cost him the election. They did not. They got bigger and greedier and destroyed themselves. We owe them nothing but contempt. Hillary or any of the top three repubes, it doesn't matter. They're all the same.

Dredd
PLEASE vote GOP! Don't torch The Whole Orchard over a Few Bad Apples!

This whole column's a crock of BS
You think RINO Rudy the Bald Hillary's going to appoint constructionist judges? Why? Because he SAID so?

He also said he considers Roberts "as qualified as Ginsburg".

He appointed incredibly liberal municipal judges as mayor of NYC.

He says he believes the 2nd Amendment's subject to local interpretation and Federalism. Kinda makes you wonder how he interprets "constructionist", doesn't it? It sure should. Is your 1st A right to Free Speech, Press, Religion and Redress subject to local interpretation and Federalism? How about the 5th A protection against self-incrimination, and the 4th A requirement for a search warrant? Subject to local interpretation and Federalism?

Hell no!

This jerk has more positions than the Kama Sutra, a "position" to please all blocs. Don't like his position on a topic? Check back in ten minutes for the update. He's nothing but the GOP equivalent to Bill Clinton, finger in the air for the latest poll, and all the sordid personal trimmings, too.

I'd rather stick a hot knitting needle in my eye than vote for this POS.

Dredd
Dobson did not say he wouldn't vote for a Mormon. And if you refuse to vote because you're Mormon, you'll stir up the Mormon issue with people for whom it is not currently an issue.

I wonder if .....
...we could get a committment from all of the Republican candidates to pledge NOT to run as an independent if they lose in the primaries. Those that say "no" would be demonstrating just how they feel regarding the future of the country.

Then said ego should be alienated as self-serving and grandiose. The Democrats have pretty much a lock on that insane profile, but, like a teenager, there's always a Republican who wants to see what it's like to be drunk.

VA Pat et al and suicidal tendencies 1

When I read the posts of Va Patriot and similar ones, my thoughts jump to the jihadist suicide. My way or death. And the Kamikasi pilots jettisoning their life for a lost cause.

The facts as the last two elections show is that the country is evenly split. A goldwater of 1968 could not have won the election that Bush won, although given that he jettisoned the christian right in blistering terms, he might have picked up independent voters but lost Va Patriot.

The only rationale not to vote for Rudy is some kamikazi hope it will lay the seeds for some ultra conservative movement to spring forth as did Athena from Zues's head which will conquer the electorate. There is as much chance as that as pre-marital chastity and marriage at 16 returning to the country.

The most influential libertarian, not social conservative, to have influence on policy was Milton Friedman, an atheist. He voted for Nixon and Reagan and other republicans. Not because they were the best, but he was realist and you take the most promising given the choices. It was he who was responsible during Nixon adminstration responsible for voluntary army and the impetus behind Bush tax cuts.

The only issues of import to a thinking person who is does not talk to God is economic freedom which is the backbone of liberty. And that means the tax structure and entitlements which lessen our freedom. The other issue is respect for merit so we put promote competence rather than affirmative action. And top of that is national security for without that we have nothing. Throw in the 2nd amendment which does not mean we do have tight controls on morons and incompetent sadists getting guns.

va Pat et al and suicidal tendencies 2
All the other stuff is of little interest. One cannot change the evolution of culture. One cannot turn the clock back on bringing the concept of sin back to sex. Abortion is here to stay--catholic Mexico city with all the bishops in an uproar just legalized abortion. Rome the seat of the Pope has more abortions than the rest of Italy. In Ireland where abortion is illegal they get on the boat to England. You want to get rid of abortion, dont count on the court or some President, count on the mullahs of Iran
taking over.

For better or worse we live in a democracy with a constitution; hence for any dramatic changes you need vast majorities such 2/3 of the congress and 3/4 of the states to make fundemental changes. Forget it. Hence, unless you think like a jihadist or a kamikazi or have some fantasy that a ultra conservative party will rise from the ashes of defeat, you choose compromise. You cant get it all; but get as much as you can. Hence, it follows, one should vote for Rudy over Hillary instead of being a spoiled brat. Both Hitler and rulers of Japan until the Bomb thought the same way many here do; All or nothing and the heck with consequences if we pick All instead of compromise. Have you not learned enough from religious fanatics to take a different route than political suicide to maintain one's "purity". One should learn from Ecclesatics: A time for this, a time for that. This is not time to pull off a Masada.


va Pat et al and suicidal tendencies END
I forgot illegal immigration. There is no simple fix to an inherited problem since Reagan who did little. IT has become like a Cancer, but there is no quick cure of dumping what is it !0 mil or 40 mil. So the best to hope for is some compromise that does the least damage. No president is going to be a Napolean on a white horse with the snap of a finger to solve the problem. Our country wont stomach gross ethnic cleansing unless in a war as in WW 2 with japanese. That is fact. I cant help facts. I am not a kamikazi pilot nor a jihadist who for sake of purity destroys himself for the 72 virgins. Of course, if thought not voting for Rudy would bring me 72 virgins, then of course, I would not vote for him and vote for the 3rd party. I guess I lack faith and those of you who will not for vote him have faith. Faith conquers all for some. Not me. I would not have listened to the OT God to sacrifice my son to prove my faith. You go ahead and do it; it is a free country.

Len, that was pretty funny stuff
Kamikaze tendencies, you say.

Hmmmm..... I call it principles, something the GOP and its apologists seem to have lost all familiarity with.

If in order to beat the other guy we have to turn into him, what's the point of the whole thing?

What, when you cut to the bottom line, have we won at all? That's the absolute epitome of a Pyrrhic Victory.

"We have met the enemy, and he is us" -- Pogo.


brianr
yes, principles; very high sounding. But meaningless; one always has to have a context and weight options. Even Thou shalt not kill, needs elaboration and examined with other priinciples such as self defense; or a more murky thing like collateral damage; or even torture in extreme situations. So just saying principles does not get you far
You if you are interested in survival, examine all options and pick the best one or the least of the worst.
That is life. I dont rats on principle, but under certain conditons I will.

I dont eat people either on principle; but under certain conditoins i guess i would as have had others caught in difficult situations.


So to use the word principles, does not help without more.



brianR
Another example of the naivete of your exclamation:principle.
Take abortion; One side define the moment of conception a person with full rights to life to be protected by govt.

The pro-choice, which may not see abortion as a first option, states that there is no consensus on the definition of personhoold and rights at the moment of conception and hence is it a moral issue like religious issues, and given no consensus, we leave it as in religion to the individual conscience. The earlier the pregnancy the more we respect conscience.

Now is there some mathematical formula to choose which principle is correct. And clearly there is not except shouting, "I am right and you are wrong".
so much for the magic word "principle" without explication.

brianR
A little extreme and juvenile to think that Rudy will a clone of hillary.
Rudy is only one who has accomplished anything useful as an executive in liberal NY in making signficant changes that had beneficial effects in huge city.

You can have all the theory you want; but i am practical; i am impressed with results not BS.

Who are you going to hire to do your roof. Those who talk a good game; or those who had built good roofs.

As libertarian, but not extreme, to me it is economic management that is my freedom; if I have the fruits of my labor then I can even move out of the country and retire in another one if things get too bad; but If my money is confiscated then I am up the creek. Hence, I could care less about the social issues which nobody can change; you think a presidient can stop the flow of a river.

brianR
When MacArthur escaped from besieged Corregidor, and arrived in Australia, he gave orders that the men should fight to the death. HE was ignored. Tell me which principle is correct.

The japanese on the other had the principle to fight to death.

Who is right.

Giuliani's picks for Supreme Court
We already have an indication whom a President Giuliani would nominate to the Supreme Court: Michael Mukasey, his friend and former legal adviser on his campaign, who just left the Giuliani campaign to become Bush's new Attorney General.

Is Michael Mukasey an evangelical Christian? No. But on fighting crime and terrorism he's as tough as nails: This is the guy who put the "blind sheik" in SuperMax, and who has endorsed much of Bush's anti-terrorist program. Bush feels comfortable enough with Mukasey to make him his Attorney General. If you can't see any difference between that kind of track record versus Ruth Bader Ginsburg of the ACLU, then you need stronger eyeglasses.

If you don't think that Mukasey on the Supreme Court would be a vast improvement over Ruth Bader Ginsburg, then you don't know their respective track records.



President Rudy's judicial picks
Here's another indication of the type of judges that President Giuliani would nominate. On his Justice Advisory Committee, his legal advice team for his campaign, you'll find such names as:

Theodore Olson
Miguel Estrada
Steven Calabresi
Charles Fried

Those guys are NOT liberals.

Rudy says he wants strict constructionist judges too, and I believe him. He's just coming at the issue from a different angle. Instead of asking "What does the guy think of abortion?" he's going to ask "What does the guy think about protecting Americans from terrorism versus coddling terrorists?"

But you'll still end up with a conservative judicial nominee. How could a "strict constructionist" believe in Griswold v. Connecticut or Roe v. Wade anyway, even if you don't ask them directly?

GO RUDY!!!

for Marlin Newburn
Marlin Newburn writes: "A third party candidate..
..would insure Hillary becomes president....It worked for Bill, and Hillary is counting on it!"

So are the left-wing blogs.

I've been reading the lefty and Democrat blogs like CarpetbaggerReport. And they are absolutely ECSTATIC over James Dobson's threat to bolt the GOP. They're already crowing that "This is the final breakup of the Republican Party!"

So all you Christian evangelicals, I just wanted you to know that you are making the Lefties VERY happy by bolting the GOP.

john brown and Dobson
Some thinking conservatives think the civil war was a disaster for liberty because of expansion of federal power that followed. There might have not been a civil war if not for John Brown raid on Harper's Ferry in 1958. That really shook up the South and especially the praise given many in the abolitionist cause. His last words on the gallows were Christ like. Had that not happenned, Lincoln's election might not have been so threatening. Who knows for sure. Now, we have Dobson pulling a John Brown(I have little regard for Dobson,but more for Brown, the christ like figure with the sword for righteousness and willing to pay a price) in that it will lead to Hillary's election and a much greater expansion of federal power than we have seen.

Go to it, my kamikazi posters.


To All You Abortion/Gun Control Fanatics
Question: Does POTUS have the wherewithal to determine whether Roe v. Wade remains the law of the land???? Does POTUS have the wherewithal to determine who will have firearms, and who will not?

Most of us are sick and tired of hearing your JUVENILE WHINING to the effect 'unless the GOP nominee agrees with me in all respects, then I'm going to 'stay home come election day.'

No matter WHO the Repub nominee may be, IF he is committed to appointing CONSERVATIVE Justices to the US Supreme Court, THAT is the singlemost most important reason for you going to the polls - and casting a vote.

QUIT WHIMPERING, FOR GOD'S SAKE, AND MAKE A DECISION!!!!! Are you SO wrapped up in yourselves and your private agenda that you refuse to acknowledge an election is something MORE than merely your narrow views?

I want a Republican nominee who above all else:

1. Acknowledges we are at war against Islamic fundamentalists; and

2. Will appoint CONSERVATIVE Justices to POTUS.

EVERYTHING else is immaterial.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Len
Those who have no principles always have some lame excuse for why it's so. I see you're no exception.


If the GOP hadn't abandoned its principles so badly, it wouldn't be in the fix it now finds itself. Without the support of the people it needs to win elections: conservatives.

And it will continue to become evermore irrelevant until it gets the message.

If I want to vote for a liberal, I'll vote for the real thing, with a (D) behind their name. I vote my principles.

The GOP machine has thrown itself behind the "moderate" wing of the party -- frankly the kiss of death -- in their foolish quest to pander after some mythical and non-existent "uncommitted" demographic. The reality is that there's no such thing. Though it's true most people aren't political junkies like us, they still know what they believe in, and when neither candidate at election time embodies their ideals, they simply stay away. And the majority of the country is conservative. So without the votes of those folks OR the activist conservatives, the GOP loses every time.

That's the lesson they refuse to learn, earning the name The Stupid Party. History bears this out: Reagan's 2 landslides, and Gingrich's 1994 Contract With America landslide.


Free Speaker, 04, 2007 9:01 AM

All the decisions you cite above were voted against by the conservatives I just mentioned. The question isn't if it's a Republican. The only question is if they're conservative. We now have four conservatives, and they all vote against the things you list. If we get one more conservative, we flip the tables.

DESKJOCKEY WRITES

We have two conservatives and two we should be doubtful about. Roberts gave us Romer v Evans and both claimed they support Roe v Wade citing that stare decisis trumps the Constitution. I get a whiff of O’Connor with the last two which I suspect is why the Dems had a love affair with them and they were shoe ins.

Also thank my uncle for Scalia as they had been close friends since the day Scalia was an intern and he recommended him for the nomination.

GOP heading in wrong direction
This is a very good article and extremely accurate but the author seems to be saying to the social conservatives “throw away your principles so that liberal Republicans can have their way”. As a dumb Democrat I am not willing to vote for any liberals as all three of your leading candidates are. If your Party goes liberal I think it will self-destruct.

brianR
The marjority who vote are conservative? IF i remember in 2000 in spite of the Clinton impeachment, Bush won by few hundred votes if that many in Florida. I dont think people stayed home then, Dont facts matter to you?

The 94 congress contract with American. About all I can remember was welfare reform with cooperaton with Clinton. Soc Sec reform? medicare reform? Hard to those things unless you have an overwhelming marjority.

I think you are wrong about the conservative strength. It is a factor, necessary, but not sufficient.

It is my impression that independents are turned off by the religious right and that only Guiliani can grab those. or McCain or Romney. None of the others. IF the conservatives stay home, they may have their principles, but I wonder what kind of medical care they leaving to their children and what kind of social security etc. Think beyond your nose.

Deskjockey
I saw the confirmation hearings. They said what I would say (and what anyone who went to law school would say): Sure, stare decisis is an issue to be dealt with. It says you should adhere to precedent, and only overturn it if there is a special justification. They were just stating the law. However, they did not say that there was no special justification for overturning Roe.

They said exactly what they should have said. It drove the liberals nuts.

Roberts and Alito did not say they would not overturn Roe. I'm confident they would if the issue comes before the Court again. But without one more justice, we'll fall short. That's why we need to win in 08.

Dred Scott & Roe: Lesson 1
The overturning of Roe would be disastrous for the country as was Dred Scott decision in 1858. Prior to 1858, it was taken for granted that Congress had authority to regulate slavery in the territories; for egs, the Missouri Comp; NW ordinance. And moreover that states were in charge of slavery, not the federal constitution. The North was satisfied with that and had no interest for interfering in the states. Dred Scott was strict constitutionalism in declaring since the slave is property, which is true since you sold and bought such, then how you disposed of your property or where you took your property was controlled by the 5th amendment which is "....nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.". Well, so how could congress now tell someone he could bring his property into a territory or state.

So even now a state could not outlaw slavery because it is property that you took from one state to another and states must respect property acquired in another state.. Makes sense. Property is property. Right out of John Locke.

That was the beginning of the civil war. IT was thought the decision would end all discussion of slavery forever because the court took it out of the Congress's hands, hence no bickering in Congress and no longer an election issue. A victory for the conservative South! How wrong. What is the moral of this: Look at the whole terrain before you make a decision when such a decision may have catastrophic effects. The president at the time, Buchanan, knowing of decision in advance and thinking that this would end all strife over slavery even talked a northern justice to join the opinion so it would not seem sectional. The court vote for Scott was 6-2.


dred Scott & Roe: Lesson 2
How myopic were they. It propagated Lincoln into fame and the presidency. And So with Roe. Has anyone thought what the effect would be of overturning Roe even if agreed it was bad law to start with. You have a whole country that has been accustomed to that law; you have all of Western Civilization that has legalized abortion. IT is taken for granted as is free speech just as it was taken for granted that states and territories could regulate slavery until Dred Scott. I am not a mind reader, but I think it would a great set back for the republican party and conservative principles. You would see sleepy people get their dander up and see it as if the Pope was controlling their sexual life. Be careful what you wish for; dont be as stupid as was President Buchanan who thought a court decision would bring peace. It will bring destruction of the Repub party. If you think any republican politician in his secret mind wants the overthrow of Roe, i wonder about your sanity.

I think DeskJockey is correct re Roberts and Alitio in that they would respect stares decis. But not just on abstract grounds; I think they are aware of what Dred Scott led when you overturn what the country had been used to and ingrained in.

Just imagine. Slavery led to the underground railroads. With Roe gone and some states having no respect for women enact strict laws, then you will have an overground railroad with donations to help women travel to free states to get abortions. Is this what we want? It will be a mockery. Had their been no Roe, things would have evolved without all this political turmoil. But the past is over. One has to think of the future. Remember Dred Scott.


correction above
The following is incorrect:
IT is taken for granted as is free speech just as it was taken for granted that states and territories could regulate slavery until Dred Scott.

It should read:

...taken for granted as is free speech that states could outlaw slavery and that congress had absolute power over slavery in the territories until Dred Scott.

social conservative ape Pope Urban
Cpming home from the gym, I have oreilly on radio and learn that Dobson criticized Thompson because he does not attend church. Echoes of complaints made against Lincoln. The founders had no use for the catholic chuch. In the 1500's pope Urban burned Giordano for heresy; put Galieleo thru hel l. So, now Dobson is going to crucify Thompson.
Who do these people think they are. They will fail as they as the did when they try to taint Grover Cleveland with his illeg child. American do not like religious bigots. Catholics have grown up by totally ignoring the ancient sterile guys in rome re birth control and abortion. Catholics ignore those people. but the evangicals have taken their place. Can you imagine our founders having any respect for the likes of Dobson.
One pope Urban is enough. The death wish is evident with social conservatives. I want to live.

Free Speaker
hat makes you so sure that Alitio and Roberts would vote overturn Roe. Deskjockey is an astute observer, you are just living on hope based on what? Your dreams. Another justice would make no difference. IF Roberts and Alitio had any inclination to overthrow Roe, they would not be crazy enough to do it on a 5 to 4 vote for such a contentious issue. They would not want to throw the country in a turmoil on such a narrow vote, It would not gain respect and there would be a violent reaction poisnous to our politican processi You lose a good portion of republican moderates and independents. You may have a death wish, but Roberts and Alito are balanced. They are well aware of Dred Scott and the turmoil it produced. See my prior posts.

free thinker
Fyi=the original roe was decided on 7-2 vote with 2 conservatives voting for it; and one moderate against and one conservative against.

Look Beyond the Media
Why would a vote for Mitt Romney be the wisest choice for our nation?....I found the honest answers from information on the following site....check it out. http://www.evangelicalsformitt.org/why.php


Free Speaker writes: 04, 2007 11:37 PM

..They said what I would say (and what anyone who went to law school would say): Sure, stare decisis is an issue to be dealt with. It says you should adhere to precedent, and only overturn it if there is a special justification. They were just stating the law. However, they did not say that there was no special justification for overturning Roe.

They said exactly what they should have said. It drove the liberals nuts.

Roberts and Alito did not say they would not overturn Roe. I'm confident they would if the issue comes before the Court again. But without one more justice, we'll fall short. That's why we need to win in 08.

DESKJOCKEY WRITES

Well I watched also. And here is what one said, that he will adhere to stare decisis until that day, if ever, that there has been so many minor victories against Roe v Wade that stare decisis of the endless minor victories would then dictate overturning the entire thing.

As a matter of fact, the Constitution trumps stare decisis a fact lost on those two. Also, Roberts engineered the Romer V Evans strategy pro bono he seeking to help out. Nuff said.

Ron Paul.
No candidate is 100% pleases each voter on every issue. A vote for Rudy, Fred T. & most of the other CFR "Repubs" is a vote for Hillary & a vote for the NWO crowd's 'parties' & most of the candidates.

The only hope for the US is a return to true Constitutional gov. Ron Paul's been saying this some 30 years. He has a 100% PRO-Constitution voting record.

If you like the status quo big spending over reaching State's rights usurping individual liberty stealing form of fascist federal government, introduced by the Dems & now perpetrated by the Repubs, by all means quibble over media's top tier darlings.

Top tier: big gov NWO establishment talk for "these are the guys we want for you!" & why Ron Paul is ignored or lied about by Faux News & so on & called a 2nd tier candidate.

The candidate feared the most by the big brother gov. establishment? Ron Paul. If the USA is returned to true Constitutional government, & UN-Constitutional foreign policy of interventionism is repealed the military industrial complex maylose a lot of $. If the private banker's 'Fed' were eliminated the one worlders lose a huge foothold in the US. If Bush's NAU is stopped the USA might remain a sovereign nation.

People please at least investigate Ron Paul & his platform. He has been consistent for close to 30 years, calling for a return to original intent Constitutional gov. He votes NO on UN-Const. bills.

If we do not elect a true patriot & Const. following President like Ron it won't matter who we vote for because the field of Prez candidates is loaded with NWO one world gov. lackeys. Clinton, Obamma, Thompson, Gulliani--same agenda differant face & is why they are called top tier. If any of them get in we will have tears alright. Rolling off the top of our cheeks.

Republicans, don't worry so much
I'm a liberal Democrat, and I'm here to tell you that almost any Republican should be able to defeat Hillary. Allyou guys have to do is play your cards right. Take the gay marriage card. Itt worked well for you back in 04, timing those state defense of marriage referenda for the election year. Get some more of that going on and it will help. Take every opportunity to stand on self-righteousness; we're a religious country, and you folks surely can play that card.
Now as for the opposition: if you can figure out how to swift-boat any Democratic candidate, you're a disgrace to the memory of Karl Rove. Look, every politician has some dirty little secret--a wide stance in the men's room, a four star rating in some Washington madam's list of brothel buddies, and I haven't even got to female candidates. So use your imaginations and think dirty--the voting public loves that. Take the high road with God and the low road with lots of sliming and you'll wind up hanging on to the White House.

And no, I'm not trying to be ironic. Just good Machiavellian advice, free of charge. (Do you know what your candidates pay people to come up with stuff like this? I'm doing you all a favor!)

Giuliani for President
Far too many of my fellow Christians will refuse to vote for Giuliani because he's anything but a Christian. I suppose they voted for that political giant, Jimmy Carter. Let's keep in mind that there was a perfect man who once walked the face of the earth, and look what we did to him.

Bob S

Bob writes: 06, 2007 12:40 PM


Giuliani for President
Far too many of my fellow Christians will refuse to vote for Giuliani because he's anything but a Christian. I suppose they voted for that political giant, Jimmy Carter. Let's keep in mind that there was a perfect man who once walked the face of the earth, and look what we did to him.

DESKJOCKEY WRITES

Christians should not let Christianity stand in the way of a good candidate.

Christians voted for Ronald Reagan not Jimmy Carter

You are correct that Giuliani is a perfect candidate and thanks for the advice as to what we need to do with him. :)

Gestell writes: 05, 2007 9:21 PM

It worked well ..in 04, timing those state defense of marriage referenda for the election year. Get some more of that..
DESKJOCKEY WRITES

If it ain’t broken don’t fix it, eh?

Gestell writes:

.. stand on self-righteousness; we're a religious country, and you folks surely can play that card.

DESKJOCKEY WRITES

That will be difficult now that Hillary claims she is a born again right wing fundamentalist. But can you trust these religious types?


Gestell writes:

…if you can[‘t] figure out how to swift-boat any Democratic candidate, you're a disgrace to the memory of Karl Rove.

DESKJOCKEY WRITES

How can you swift boat Hillary when she did such a brilliant job with Travelgate. Don’t mess with Hillary.


Gestell writes:

Look, every politician has some dirty little secret--a wide stance in the men's room, a …madam's list of brothel buddies…. think dirty--the voting public loves that. Take the high road with God and the low road with lots of sliming and you'll wind up hanging on to the White House.

DESKJOCKEY WRITES

Hmmm, maybe we can use the Rose firm law records that Hillary never knew about sitting in her bedroom? Then there is Travelgate. Of course there is always Waco.

Then again as you say, every politician has a dirty secret and Hillary has the gonad lockbox of the FBI records of all the candidates so we will find out what they are. It was great how she used that to blow out Livingston, Gingrich, etc. I can’t wait to she what the FBI had on Giuliani, this should be good.

Yup we need to thank God for Hillary because it is going to make sliming soooo enjoyable, almost spiritual.

Gestell writes:

Just good Machiavellian advice, free of charge. (Do you know what your candidates pay people to come up with stuff like this? I'm doing you all a favor!)

DESKJOCKEY WRITES

Hmmmm, your prices are certainly good, have you ever thought of a job in prostitution, maybe in the Senate or House.
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