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Thursday, July 05, 2007
Ken Blackwell :: Townhall.com Columnist
Al Qaeda Raises the Bar in Health Care Debate
by Ken Blackwell
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Almost overnight, health care has become a security issue.

The news from London and Glasgow brings a striking reminder that Al Qaeda is willing to exploit any national weakness.

In the case of the British, it’s an ongoing physician shortage brought on by the inherit shortcomings of their government-run health care system. The shortage allowed Al Qaeda operatives to legally enter the country and quickly become trusted members of its National Health Service.

Foreign doctors are given top priority and almost immediate entrance into Great Britain. In fact, they make up nearly 40% of all British doctors. In the aftermath of the foiled suicide bomber plots, the British must address this glaring threat to their national security.

Canadians face a similar dilemma. In both Canada and Great Britain, the provision of free medical care through a government-based system has created a patient demand that exceeds the health care supply. It is not too much of a stretch to say that how countries deal with the challenge of health care could make them more or less vulnerable in a homeland security sense.

In America, health care is becoming the critical issue of the 2008 presidential campaign. All voters care about health care, but it is the deciding factor for more swing voters than for those in either party’s base. And moderate women — who statistically can vote either Democrat or Republican — are keenly interested in health care.

Democrats favor a government-centered approach. Republicans are inclined to support a market-based solution.

Whether driven by presidential politics or mandated by patient demand, or even highlighted by a terror threat or a military need, one thing is clear: the way health care is delivered in our country will change. The peril is in thinking our current health care system is inferior — it is not.

America may not have a perfect health care system, but it certainly has the best hospitals, doctors, and medical research in the world. For proof, just go to the Cleveland Clinic, the Mayo Clinic, or Johns Hopkins Hospital and count the number of very wealthy foreign patients from counties with government-run health care. When these folks get critically ill, they travel here for treatment rather than settle for what they can get for free at home. Other nations have chosen to center health care around the collective. Our health care system, like most of our systems, is focused on the individual. Canada and Great Britain promise their citizens high quality universal health care. However, these government-run systems never deliver their promise.

British and Canadian citizens often encounter extended waits — days, weeks, months — for medical treatment. In our system, patients have customized health insurance plans to meet specific needs. Doctors are in ample supply and hospitals boast of cutting edge equipment. Patient choice drives the free market to constant improvement. The current debate to reform our system is a case in point.

As the debate develops, three issues must be addressed.

First, health care in our country is enormously expensive. Last year, we spent $2 trillion on health care. It accounts for over 15% of our GDP — an inconceivable amount of money.

Second, much of that cost can be avoided through modernizing the system. Health care personnel are educated professionals and able to effectively use new Web-based computer technologies that could save literally hundreds of billions of dollars every year.

Third, costs can be dramatically cut through continued tort reform efforts. There is an entire industry of trial lawyers out there who make multi-million dollar incomes off medical malpractice cases. One wealthy trial lawyer is even running for president. As a result, doctors routinely order unneeded tests or unnecessarily powerful medicines that cost thousands of dollars in order to avoid a paper trail that could be used against them in court. Doctors are under a constant threat in the current system. Every dollar these trial lawyers earn results in doctors having to raise prices on treatments for you.

As care becomes more expensive, fewer people can afford coverage. There are now 47 million Americans without health coverage, and the high cost is the reason for many of them. But even they are not going without care. Many of them are using emergency rooms as their primary care physicians, and thus driving up the cost of health care for everyone.

The next president must have a realistic solution to this problem. And this week’s news raised the stakes.

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Adding to all this
is the fact that some people actually expect their insurance to pay for tummy tucks, face lifts, etc.
And there are some people who can afford to pay for their own health care without insurance.

Its the pasters! Egad!!
Get a life!

Ron Paul


From RON PAUL September 12, 2001 after the 9/11 attacks

Did President Bush and lawmakers make a mistake by not listening to Ron Paul when he said “killing of innocent civilians will only serve to flame the fires of war and further jeopardize our security”?

NightVision-Yesterday, Americans were awakened to find ourselves in a war, attacked by barbarians who targeted innocent civilians. This despicable act reveals how deep-seated is the hatred that has driven this war.

Though many Americans have just become aware of how deeply we are involved in this war, it has been going on for decades. We are obviously seen by the terrorists as an enemy.

In war there is no more reprehensible act than for combatants to slaughter innocent civilian bystanders. This is what happened yesterday.

If there is such a thing, a moral war is one that is only pursued in self-defense. Those who initiate aggression against others for the purpose of occupation or merely to invoke death and destruction are unforgivable and serve only to spread wanton killing.

In our grief, we must remember our responsibilities. The Congress’ foremost obligation in a constitutional republic is to preserve freedom and provide for national security. Yesterday our efforts to protect our homeland came up short. Our policies that led to that shortcoming must be reevaluated and changed if found to be deficient.

When we retaliate for this horror we have suffered, we must be certain that only the guilty be punished. More killing of innocent civilians will only serve to flame the fires of war and further jeopardize our security. Congress should consider its constitutional authority to grant letters of marque and reprisal to meet our responsibility.

Demanding domestic security in times of war invites carelessness in preserving civil liberties and the right of privacy. Frequently the people are only too anxious for their freedoms to be sacrificed on the altar of authoritarianism thought to be necessary to remain safe and secure. Nothing would please the terrorists more than if we willingly give up some of our cherished liberties while defending ourselves from their threat.

It is our job to wisely choose our policies and work hard to understand the root causes of the war in which we find ourselves.

We must all pray for peace and ask for God’s guidance for our President, our congressional leaders, and all America- and for the wisdom and determination required to resolve this devastating crisis.

http://www.controlcongress.com


Marvin?
What brings you here? Surely ypu know that wings are unnecessary. All you have to do is throw yourself at the ground, and, at the last moment, get distracted.

Manx
I do not like or dislike any statistic. The point I am trying to make is that a majority of people will always say yes, I want a free lunch if that is the question they are asked. If they were asked whether they would support a new government program that is going to take an extra $5 out of every paycheck, filter it thru the bureaucracy and return $2.5 to $3.5 in benefits to you, would 69% still support it? Polls ask simple questions commonly designed to elicit the response the funder of the poll desires and, most issues are much more complex and not very amenable to simple(minded) solutions.

Manx
You know, you have a point there. I simply accepted what you said as truth and proceeded to rationalize it as though it were fact. Now that you have noted my folly, I have spent some time Googling such things as "U.S. policy Afghanistan health care 2007" and "iraq health care 2007" and can find no results anywhere supporting your assertion that the U.S. is providing, or has plans to provide, any such universal U.S. tax-payer funded health care. I did find a WHO report on some problems and a site for the U.S. Embassy in Kabul, but nada, zip, zero, news reports, policy statements, or speeches that support your claim. Please provide a link supporting the notion that we Americans are funding universaal health care in those nations. I will be happy to study it, and respond from a better informed position!

bakedbones
That is pretty weak. You are saying the U.S. government is funding universal healthcare for two other countries for intelligence information even though "socialized medicine" will have catastrophic effects. Why would the Bush do that to countries if they want to rebuild them? Clearly, they truly don't believe universal healthcare is horrifying, hence the hypocrisy. Oh and don't say that program is just temporary. It is libertarians and conservatives who say that there is nothing more permanent than a temporary program.

Manx
Straw men, my friend! Iraq and Afghanistan are emerging democracies fraught with civil strife and guerrilla terrorist attacks. Providing free universal healthcare is a neccessary and temporary tactic that not only endears us to the citizenry, but provides a great source of intelligence on insurgencies, ammunition caches, and basic attitudes of the people allowing crucial assessment and planning on both diplomatic and military fronts.

To equate that military and diplomatic effort to the socialization of 1/7th of the U.S. economy is beyond naive, ( I'll refrain from describing how far beyond ). Socialism fails, . . usually taking millions of innocent lives with it. Get a clue!

Hitchhiker
If you don't like the statistic that 69% of the public wants universal coverage, then it would only be fair that conservatives don't pull up stats on immigration either.

moventure
That is pretty weak response. Nobody can come up with a good response for the obvious hypocrisy on the part of the Bush administration.

For no one has to scroll down:

There are two countries that have recently gotten universal coverage for its citizens. Those two countries are Iraq and Afghanistan. Don't you think there is just a little inconsistency there? Our federal government funds universal coverage for other people but screams socialized medicine when the idea of doing it for us comes up. I think that if they really did not believe in it then they would not fund it for other countries.

Not getting the point
Y'all have missed the point. ... The "professionals" of concern THIS TIME are medical doctors. Next time they will be engineers, or physicists, or chemists, or.... The UK has the same problem that we here in the Good Ol' USA have--not enough highly educated professionals to meet the current demand (at least demand at the current wages that American businesses demand) We are getting a flood of imported professionals through the H-1B Visas lavishly awarded to any foreign national with a PhD (or MD) because American businessmen (& women) have lobbied hard and long for them. The recently failed "Immigration 'Reform'" Bill contained a provision to DOUBLE the rate of H-1B awards. WAKE UP AMERICA... this is a major security risk of biblical proportions!

If you need more American-born, highly-educated professionals, allow the marketplace to establish salaries without resorting to "globalizing" our workforce and exposing us to the inherent risk.

On healthcare
Pirate's on the right track. I've outlined this before, and its sketchy, at best, . . but the jist, ( gist?), of the matter is: 1) outlaw employer provided health insurance, ( or maybe all benefits, entirely ), 2) increase wages by the exact dollar amount those benny's cost the employer, 3) require all mal-practice insurers to provide "Practice-based" plans for the patients of every medical practice, private, partnered, LLC'd or otherwise, and develop intra-state/ global affilliations, 4) pass the Fair Tax Act, ( and promote it in each state and municipality, . . essentially outlawing income taxation as opposing the Declaration of Independence's "pursuit of happiness"! )

There is much research and development needed to bring fruition, but my idea is that the conflict of interest inherent to such a situation for the underwriters might prove to be more of a governing force than it could ever be a corrupting force, by way of good old fashioned competetive capitalism!

Just a germ of an idea, but I believe it superior to any I've heard from any candidate, thus far!

The US pays for universal coverage for
Iraq and Afghanistan? I hadn't realized that! Now I know why they are such total disasters. New Orleans looks good in comparison. All this time I thought it was just because they're Muslims!

Just gotta say it again:
Mr Blackwell consistently shows solid conservative analysis, in his assessment of global concerns. He is the best conservative to come out of the morass of the Ohio Republican party in decades. His defeat in the gubernatorial race reflects very poorly on our state organization, and is emphasized by their recent ommission of him in projected candidacies. Whether it is racially motivated, or simply a matter of the pecking order, or a bit of both, . . it is shameful on its face!

Ken dutifully stood aside for the Taft dynasty as a true trouper for the show, despite his superior record, . . then was given the one-shot of following up the disaster it left with a field of candidates that reinforced the "anti - republican" sentiment on all levels, ( like Ney tapping Padgett, with her problems, as his successor ).

The Ohio Republican organization hasn't truly learned from '06, but is ready to re-deploy like the dems want to in the middle east: move your strengths to the distant shores and be ready to pounce when the inevitable actually happens!

Why Ken hasn't been tapped as a contender for either Senatorial seat, or promoted as a solid, viable running mate on the national ticket, is beyond me. Yes, the dems will make big noise over his tenure as Ohio SecState during the '04 election, but the facts and investigations bear him out, as the righteous, dedicated, "letter-of-the-law" guy he is!

I'll discuss ny healthcare concepts seperately, but I urge all to look closer at this guy, and don't allow his talent and dedication to wither on the vine! As several have stated on several threads today, it is difficult to get quality people to forsake the personal advantages of the private sector to serve publicly. It is a natural phenomena that works in the left's favor. When we get good people like Ken, it is a serious shame to overlook or pass them by in favor of a meritless pecking order!

If I'm wrong, do me the honor of investigating for yourself and advising me of my factual errors in this assessment.

Here's the BS
The poor are covered by the socialistic Medicare policicies. The elderly are covered by the socialistic Medicare policies. The wealthy are fully capable of buying medical insurance. It's the middle class, unless they work for a corporation that provides health insurance, a happenstance less frequent or the corporation provides less of the percentage, who are the ones that are the real losers in the current medical crisis in this country.

Part of the problem is too many people run to the doctor, emergency room or urgent care center for a headache or a hangnail if they have insurance. Those of us with kids and no insurance only go to the doctor when absolutely necessary, which is as it should be.
Our system is pathetic when the poor can run to the hospital for free for a stubbed toe, but the middle class, middle-aged working fool doesn't get that colonostapy because the fees are driven up the lazy and incompetent, even though a percentage of their paycheck goes to Medicare each pay period.

Uninsured is GOOD!
I have long LONG felt that the only way the health care mess will be resolved is via health savings accounts. When we essentially go back to what we had 40 years ago - NO maternity coverage, NO routine bandaid coverage, NO discounts on healthclubs and NOTHING BUT CATASTROPHIC COVERAGE insurance.

One problem we have now is pricing - where in order to pay retail you have to have insurance. Case in point, a heart drug named Benicar "retails" at about $47 with various insurance plans charging you $30 or $35 for it.
However if you go buy it without insurance, it costs you about $80! My doctor bills $120 and gets about $58, of which I pay $15 and the insurance $42 -- this is the retail "reasonable and customary fee" but if I don't have insurance, I get to pay the whole $120. And as to hospitals - well the same is true on a larger scale.

The problem: you have to buy insurance in order to pay the retail rate, and then you want the insurance to cover everything which pushes the cost of the insurance up, a never ending cycle.

Worse, the more your insurance costs, the more you want to get, the more healthcare you consume with no idea of real cost, thus creating yet another never ending cycle. So much the better if you can get your employer to pay a good chunk of this as well.

The solution: somehow re-establish a retail price that everyone pays, be it the insurance company or the individual with health savings dollars or whomever. And to do this without a government fiat.

How, I don't know, but this is the problem...

Hey repug
Let's see who can get their congressman to earmark some dough for a badass roller coaster in their backyard. Ya wanna bet!

YouRepugsMakeMeLaugh
wrote, "69% Say to Take Care of People
That's the large share of the public that now agrees that the government has a responsibility "to take care of people who can't take care of themselves", up from 61% in 2002."

Ya dude. 71% polled said they wanted the Feds to wipe their arse for them too. 94.6% polled said they thought the Guvment should put a Ferrari in their driveway. Rock on. Let's go. Hey pass the bong, would ya.


record 47 million uninsured...
is something we definitely need to work on, but that stat is being highly politicized these days.

First, as this article states, the uninsured are generally being treated.

Second, we have more people in this country than ever before, so we also have a record number of people WITH insurance, and a record number of government insured. The actual percentage of uninsured is on a slow, gradual rise, but not significantly different than it was 10 years ago.

Third, the gradual percentage of uninsured has been on that slow rise for more than 25 years, due to factors such as better technology, overweight Americans, and an aging population. Tagging this as a Bush-induced problem, which I hear all the time, is ridiculous.






mbcmd
Your point is well taken about the competence of medical professionals who want to come to the US.
All the more reason to eliminate the loophole in the visa laws.

YouRepugsMakeMeLaugh
Tell you what: You can pay the extra taxes necessary to take care of the losers. I will not volunteer to do that.

Doctor's Visas
This situation just shows the built in failings of the current visa laws of the Western world.
The policy of allowing virtually unlimited transit into the US & Great Britain, simply because an individual *probably will be* useful to society because of his/her profession or financial background has sent a clear signal to the Islamics. It has opened the flood gates for terrorism. The Muslim world does not value any individual over the group. The only thing that matters in Islam is how devout a person is. Money is irrellevant, as is one's standing in society. The leaders of the Western World do not understand this. Until they do, this type of infiltration by potential terrorists will continue.

YRMML
Of course you want the govt. to take care of you, because you are just too ignorant and lazy to do it yourself.

Health Care Debate
Ethical Issue... Importing foreign Doctors

The July 5, 2007 issue of the New England Journal of Medicine pointed out the marked disparity in availability of medical care in developed and developing countries.

"The United States has a population of about 300 million, and in 2003, it had about 27,000 active diagnostic radiologists, according to the American College of Radiology. India, with its population of 1.1 billion, has about 5500 active radiologists, a third of whom have only paramedical training"

Should the United States be recruiting "radiologists" or any highly trained professional from third world countries?









Medical problems
I challenge anyone to show me any problem with our health care system that is not the result of government sticking its nose where it doesn't belong.

US Government funds Universal healthcare
It is worth repeating:

There are two countries that have recently gotten universal coverage for its citizens. Those two countries are Iraq and Afghanistan. Don't you think there is just a little inconsistency there? Our federal government funds universal coverage for other people but screams socialized medicine when the idea of doing it for us comes up. I think that if they really did not believe in it then they would not fund it for other countries.

Government Health Care not the answer
A friend who is from London describes the health care system as horrible and the current concern with immigrant doctors a natural consequence of making the pay of doctors in England low. Waiting time for simple procedures may take months, not days in England.

We will have the same problem if we require a vow of poverty to be a doctor.

If americans are willing to pay for social security maybe they will pay for cradle to grave medical care. But, are americans willing to pay european style taxes of about 50% on income?


A New Record for Liberals
IN ONE FELL SWOOP! Liberals in The UK have screwed up:
01. National Security
02. Immigration Policy
03. A HEALTH CARE SYSTEM THAT THEY DESIGNED!

Somebody send this column to Ann Coulter!

Quality
Note that England relies on forign physicians to the extent of 40% of its docs. As a physician I can assure you that there is a very big difference between those trained in other countries and here. Most of the time a foreign trained physician has to completely repeat his training before he can practice here. Even then, he does not have the same ethical concerns as American doctors and is a bad choice for your health care.

Now why does England need so many foreign born doctors? It is because the people who would ordinarily become physicians are not doing so. That is because an intelligent, highly motivated person is not going to go into medicine in a country that has a socialist system. So as we move to such a system here, I would strongly advise that you learn how to care for yourself.

Muslim Doctors Just Like Terrorists
Muslim doctors are as deadly as terrorists. The truth is doctors in socialized medicine programs are far more dangerous than alQaeda terrorists. I will bet the three Muslim doctors have killed more patients because of their lousy medical educations than would ever be killed with their bombs.

Same for Canadian doctors.

America gives dogs and cats better medical care than people get in every socialist /communist country in the world.

America's poor can get any medical treatment they need in our hospitals. But in socialist countries, sick people will die if they're treated or if they're not treated. Their only hope is to get to an American hospital.

Low MD pay NOT the problem....
> Rand"y writes: ..there are insufficient
> doctors in socialized medicine are correct
> on the reason: it doesn't pay enough.

NO! It doesn't pay enough RELATIVE TO THE OPPORTUNITY COST. This is not the same thing as it simply not paying enough.

We have a major problem in this country of education having outpased the rate of inflation by a factor of three to five over the past half century. Education is incredibly expensive, not just for doctors but for engineers, and Americans who would have gone into these fields in an earlier age are pushed into other fields.

And thus we have to bring in the immigrants, who were educated in far cheaper schools and thus don't have the high opportunity costs.

The problem is a LACK of capitolism, a lack of competition, a restriction on the market that both reduces the number of practitioners and thus increases the salaries they both can and must demand. If doctors weren't coming out of residencies with the debt they have, they wouldn't need to charge the rates they do; if there wasn't the upfront costs, there would be more doctors.

One approach in rural communities has been to pay (municipal tax assessment) for local folk to go to medical school with the requirement that they return to work in the local clinic. These doctors work for fairly low salaries and are quite happy to do so.

On a larger scale - well I did not like HillaryCare's quotas of who could go to medical school and for what. Soviet style planning all the way. And anything else would be similar.

But the problem is not the lack of pay for doctors as much as the lack of pay relative to the opportunity cost of becoming a doctor...

The arguement against risk-based health

The arguement against risk-based health insurance is that it will have three totally unacceptable long term outcomes.

First, would it be politically possible to charge gays and lesbians the truly appropriate higher premiums that their lifestyles would justify? How many hundred thousand overweight smokers would it take to balance the risk that just one skinny gay male might get AIDS?

And if you are going to go with risk of expense, then you would have to do it like auto insurance which charges male drivers more than female drivers even though male drivers have no choice about being male. Women would have to pay at least twice as much for health insurance because women consume far more in health coverage.

Second, one of the biggest voluntary expenses for health insurance involves children. Childbirth and small children are expensive -- under such a concept it would be necessary to charge parents more than, say, single men.
This would be in exact opposition to more than 300 years of social policy that does the exact OPPOSITE, providing financial incentives to parents out of a concept of social good.

And third, and most important, look at what insurance regulations have done to everything else. "Liability" is the word that most in business fear, it is the reason why there are more warnings (in more languages) on a product than instructions as to how to make it work. It is why lots of stupid decisions get made about things that shouldn't be of concern. It is why kids can't play dodgeball (the real reason), it is why good products are off the market, et al.

DO YOU REALLY WANT TO BRING THIS INTO THE PERSONAL LIFE ARENA? Do you want a buraucrat telling you what you can and can't eat or that you must take your mittens with you? And if you say that you have a choice, you don't any more than you have a choice not to have auto insurance.



Indeed it is ...
Treason .... what makes you think that anything out weighs the consideration of economics in any event?
This is why our men at arms are heroes to us. Though we may not be able to vocalize it, we all know intutively that this is probably the sole remnant of the faithful few. The last vestige of what it means to be American as opposed to being a citizen of the United States.
And it appears that be it Hillary or George, they would like to pattern these folks after the modern French and British model ..... Surrender being a first option.
I wasn't afforded the privalege of being amongst these Men but members of my family and friend have served. Recall the Marines surrendering their weapons when the Iranians raided the US Embassy? I have been informed that they were ordered to do so; that no Marine would ever surrender his weapon unless instructed to do so. Is Jimmy Carter a treasonous snail. I think so.
But then, I'm not a worshipper of polititians.

Capitalism saves the day
The poster who pointed out that there are insufficient doctors in socialized medicine are correct on the reason: it doesn't pay enough. If doctors have to dedicate years of their lives and high student loans, it means they have to have some way to recoop that investment in their own future. High salaries mean they can pay their student loans, and the huge malpractice insurance premiums they must pay while they have trial lawyers like John Edwards looking over their shoulder at every moment. A lot of our problems here would be solved by tort reform, but the trial lawyers in Congress consistenly rebuff that effort. I lived in a small town of 6000 in New Mexico and there was one trial lawyer. He built a half million dollar house and lived like a king, all based on bilking insurance companies for a lot of phony slip and falls, etc. The other part of the problem is to restore the decision making authority to doctors to determine what care is appropriate for the patient rather than the bean counters at the insurance companies. I recently had treatment for breast cancer. The doctors gave me the new treatment of five day Mammosite radiation of the specific site of the tumor rather than whole breast radiation. I found out that if I had had whole breast radition, the next time I have cancer in that breast (and there are markers there that I have a strong chance of it returning) my only medical option will be mastectomy. With the Mammosite, I can have radiation again and preserve the breast. I think this is a decision that is best left to the doctor and patient. However, Blue Cross Blue Shield has determined that the five day radiation was not 'medically necessary' and have refused to pay the claim. I am in the process of appealing this to the State Commissioner on Insurance this week. As soon as the insurance companies were given the power to dictate treatment based on their bottom line, the whole system went to hell. Get the bureaucrats and the tort lawyers out and the system will return to healthy. But you won't hear socialists like Mike Moore or Shrillary Clinton recommending that. That would be giving market forces its due, and they are socialists who are intent on income redistribution. That ignores the reality of the human spirit and will result in the same disaster they have in other countries that have socialized medicine: physician flight. No one ever washes a rented car.
I for one, based on what I know about the Koran, will henceforth make sure that I am not treated by a Muslim doctor. I don't trust them to give good care to infidels. And lying about it is encouraged by the Koran. I suggest the rest of you consider that as well. Where there are no patients, there will be no Muslim doctors.

A related ethical issue...
These doctors are coming from the third world. So what we are doing is taking doctors that were trained THERE by those cultures with the expectation that they would be providing medical care to their people and bringing them here.

If they are here, they aren't there.

If we continue to take the best and brightest young people from the third world, how exactly will those cultures ever advance? If we continue to take all their doctors, will not conditions devolve into ones ripe for terrorism?

On an individual basis, I think that any doctor has a right to do whatever he pleases. But if Britain, Canada, Western Europe (and the USA) are bringing in foreign doctors in the numbers they are, what percentage of the total doctor population are they taking? And at what point is the "First" world exploiting the countries from which these doctors are coming?

There is an ethical issue here.

Hillary Care-shared misery for all
It seems to be the recurring tactic of a socialist-leaning government such as ours - Screw up the country, then impose more government because things are screwed up. Our heath care system is a prime example. It has provided for us, although, it is overly-burdened by the effects of liberalism and its social programs, and excessively enriched by the coddling of the medical/pharma/insurance industry by our elected representatives. The truth is that I, and many like me, continue to prop up the health care system by paying for the welfare cases, the illegals, the indigent, and all their offspring, which by the way are supported by you and me on various levels, from cradle to grave.

The Hillary/Liberal solution - Let government manage it completely (read-increase taxes and screw it up for everyone). Isn't this farcical "solution" just a pseudonym for government officially inserting itself into the shared misery that already exists here?

I say, "No thanks, we have had enough government help with health care."

possible treason
al qaeda, with it's medievial "technology", can always rely on american socialist media to spread their hate /killing messages.
Isn't it a treason: abetting our enemies?

Alot of nonsense
here on this column. There aren't enough doctors in socialized medicine along with other healthcare workers because it simply doesn't pay enough. As to tying premiums to everything else why not due a genetic workup at birth any weak genes and you get no coverage. Wake up. That could be you, since nobody is perfect. Besides the fact give the health care industry that kind of power and they will look for reasons to charge higher premiums. Get Real.

bogus bmi research
note that the obesity ruse has taken over the medical community.

think about it. look at the professional athletes and try and find the ones that are in the normal bmi range. there aren't many. why? the bmi index is biased against muscle mass!

even a child can pick out the healthy person versus the unhealthy. given the choice would he pick the flabby couch potato or the muscular basketball player or linebacker?

remember the 400000 deaths due to obesity? even the CDCs own scientists refuted that claim and warned against publishing it.

why?

because it was not supported by facts.

remember that most of these "studies" are performed by self surveys and data mining. they are not clinical tests and thus not worth the paper that they are printed on.

There is irony worth pointing out
There are two countries that have recently gotten universal coverage for its citizens. Those two countries are Iraq and Afghanistan. Don't you think there is just a little inconsistency there? Our federal government funds universal coverage for other people but screams socialized medicine when the idea of doing it for us comes up. I think that if they really did not believe in it then they would not fund it for other countries.

So-so
He doesn't say how many physicians in America are foreign born...

One good point he does make is that although 47 million in America are without insurance, they are not without care. Ms Clinton et al never point that out. I daresay our uninsured get better and quicker care than many do under socialized plans in other places.
If we really want the cost of healthcare to skyrocket, insert more government.

One more point about the limited
number of doctors in Canada. I would point out that one of the main reasons for the scarcity of home-grown doctors is that the Provincial medical organizations (at least in Ontario) are the ones that determine the amount of students that will be admitted into medical school each year. For some reason these organizations, made up of doctors, tend to limit the number of new entrants in their field.

This is yet another serious structural imbalance in the system that prevents market forces from correcting the situation.

It is worse than you think
Not only do we have to accept third world health care provided by third world doctors in the UK, but those we allow to provide it are so inept they can't even rig a basic car bomb even when they are still in the vehicle. If I had been treated by one of these doctors of peace, oops, death, I would be going back to see a competent doctor to be rediagnosed and correctly treated.

Health Care
Good to hear drom you again Gov. I voted for you and would vote for you again. Maybe you would consider running for Mayor of Columbus. We sure could use a change.

Premiums should be tied to risk
With term life insurance, smokers are charged a higher premium than non-smokers.

With automobile insurance, the insurance company computes your premium based on a complex formula that is intended to assess your risk of filing a claim. Factors as diverse as the make and model of car, your locale, your age and driving record, are all taken into account.

But with health care, everyone pays the same. The result is to subsidize unhealthy lifestyles and risky behaviors rather than rewarding healthy lifestyle and safe behavior, as the auto and life insurance premiums do.

I know it's politically explosive, but I would begin the process of adjusting health care premiums in the same way on a gradual basis, and in a way that does not compromise privacy by only focusing on publicly observable behavior. In Phase One, smokers would be charged a higher health insurance premium than non-smokers. In Phase Two, the insurance company will pay to have your Body Mass Index (BMI) computed. Those who are found to be more than 30% overweight will be charged a higher premium. And so on.

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