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Sunday, March 01, 2009
Kathleen Parker :: Townhall.com Columnist
Where's Bobby?
by Kathleen Parker
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I liked the old Bobby Jindal better -- the one whose brain moves so fast, he's already indexing questions his interviewers haven't thought of yet.

What did they do with him?

The Jindal who responded to Barack Obama's address to Congress was less the brilliant statesman than a terribly mixed metaphor -- equal parts Mister Rogers, Bobby Brady and Kenneth the Page.

I know Bobby Jindal, and that guy wasn't Bobby Jindal.

The real Jindal is the intellectual equivalent of a nuclear power plant. The real Jindal has actually read the stimulus bill and can recite its contents. The real Jindal is the sort of politician who promises ethics and education reform, and actually delivers.

Stories of Jindal's ability to quickly assess a problem and fix it have become the stuff of legend in Louisiana, as when he was assigned the task of reforming the state's Medicaid program and presented a workable plan the following morning. He was in his 20s.

That kind of performance, followed by his bare-hands approach to Hurricane Katrina rescue efforts as a Louisiana congressman, helped him become the nation's youngest governor in 2007. What happened to that guy? Who snatched his body?

His staff did.

In fact, Jindal did not write his own speech and he's on a choke collar by some well-meaning people who helped him win the governor's race. What worked in Louisiana in 2007 may not work on the national stage in 2016, when Jindal is most likely to run for president.

The stage-crafting was amateurish and the speech embarrassing. Jindal is smarter than the guy who criticized "volcano monitoring" as an example of wasteful spending in the stimulus bill, prompting the same cringe reflex that Sarah Palin did when she targeted silly ol' spending -- in France, no less -- on fruit fly research that is, in fact, crucial to medical research.

Volcano monitoring may not be a top priority for creating jobs and stimulating credit, which is doubtless what Jindal's speechwriter meant, but it does save lives. Jindal's rendering of a spending eruption metaphor (get it?) merely gave Democrats yet another opportunity to question Republicans' understanding of science and the role of government in protecting the public good.

Being the smartest person in the room can be a mixed blessing. Whether it is advantage or handicap for a brainy candidate depends on having the right people around him. At the moment, Jindal seems to be handicapped by handlers who either don't trust their candidate or have no faith in Americans' intelligence.

In coaching him to dim the lights a tad, they stole his spark. Dumbing down doesn't come naturally to wunderkinds like Jindal. In trying to sound human, he sounds fake. In attempting to convey everydayness, he comes across as an extraterrestrial.

Tuesday's speech was a setback, much like Bill Clinton's droning 1988 Democratic convention speech, but hardly a career-ender. When Jindal apparently slipped his collar and resurfaced Wednesday morning on the "Today" show, the Rhodes Scholar Jindal (who was accepted to both Yale and Harvard medical and law schools) was back.

He dropped his "I'm-just-a-regular-guy" shtick and managed to articulate his conservative principles without putting the audience in mind of cookies and milk. Praising Obama's objectives -- while conceding that Republicans have lost fiscal credibility -- he emphasized his preference for policies that help businesses create jobs rather than government programs he fears will require a taxpayer feeding tube in perpetuity.

It's a shame that Tuesday was Jindal's first introduction to many Americans, who won't have a clear picture of the man. It's also a shame he and Obama aren't on the same team. Although they differ strenuously on social issues and the role government should play in problem-solving, they are temperamentally similar. Most important, both are pragmatists who promise to seek solutions that work, rather than be bound by ideology. It would be heartening to watch these two serious thinkers craft real bipartisan solutions to our economic troubles. One can fantasize.

At just 37, Jindal needs seasoning, but again, like Obama, he's a quick study. Lesson No. 1: Governor, fire your staff and retool. A majority of Americans have demonstrated that they'll vote for the smart guy, even if he talks too fast.

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Kathleen
I liked the old Kathleen Parker better... When nobody knew who you where.... Please get this author off of townhall....

Kathleen
I, too, like the "old Kathleen better" . . . like before TH made the mistake of taking her for a conservative writer!!! This person is vicious, mean-spirited with affiations on the wrong side of the aisle . . . not the "right"!!!!!
You'd be better off being on KP duty!!!!!
M~

It's true. The Bobby Jindal that showed
up after Obama's magnificent speech looked like he was muted and stoned. Like he was tripping on ecstacy -- he was slowing moving underwater. Every few minutes he would vaguely murmur something about smaller government and "tax cuts" -- but this guy WAS a stoned Mr. Rogers, a computerized Disney animatron whose mission seemed to be to evoke a sappy, saccharine 1950's commercial.


He succeeded.

The thing is: we're in the problematic 21st century, not the image-obsessed 1950's. Our problems are way beyond some rinky-dink conservative yelling "Tax cuts!" from the peanut gallery.

If conservatives are to survive the changing times and not seem permanently stuck in Mr. Rogersland (& stuck on stupid), they have to think beyond the tinny confines of Bobby Jindal and Sarah Palin. Conservatives who can memorize copy and spout conservative talking points are not enough to win elections anymore.

I know you conservatives hate intellectuals, hate original thinkers, but this is exactly what's needed to break out of your recent losing streak (losing the presidency. losing the House, losing the Senate, losing the majority of the state's governorships). A candidate who knows more than how to mouth the words "tax cuts!"; a candidate who isn't tethered to the social issues, who's main concern is economics and foreign policy and national problems (infrastructure, schools, bipartisanship).

Keep all this yapping about gay marriage and abortion and Creationism in schools - and you'll be losing elections for years & years to come.

Go away, Parker
This female writer is an Obamamaniac. I'm sick of hearing her praise the jerk. Get her out of here.

will
When you actually show us a liberal that actually is an intellectual original thinker I will let you know whether I hate him or not.

In the mean time nothing in your president or you and your stupid post was intellectual or original.

"tethered to the social issues" Will
Conservatism has to mean something, It can't just be campaigning to get more elephants and less donkeys in office. To be honest here, I will not necessarily call myself a conservative. I was arrested at a pro-life sit-in and I have publicly favored gay marriage. So when I talk about conservatism, I'm probably speaking in the hypothetical. But it has to mean something. It may be that someone is all about taxes and not any about people but in that case, you have nothing for me. I will not agree to call abortion or gay marriage (used to be gay rights. We've made progress.) "social issues". The right to marry is fundamental and the right to live is critical. You might as well call the civil rights movement a "social issue." On the gay thing, I would agree with civil unions and limit "marriage" to heterosexuals. Why fight over a word? On abortion, the lives of our children are riding on that. A conservative indifferent to that will find me likewise indifferent to him.

If she can't trash
Sarah Palin, George W. Bush, Rush Limbaugh or any other conservative, I guess Bobby Jindal will have to do.

Anything to further Obamunism, right Kathleen?

Palin and Jindal don't have to Hide
The Republican party is doing what the Democratic Party has always done with its national candidates: playing to the imaginary center. The Democrats have had to do this because their principles are not shared by most Americans. Moreover, the more honestly the Democrats express them, the less support they have. The Democrats have long marshalled bias pollsters to create the illusion that contrary to the propaganda of the "right wing noise machine", most Americans support socialized medicine, more spending on education, etc. Beyond the superficial level of the questions of these polls, however, most Americans do not support the growth of government power at the expense of individual choice and liberty.

On social and cultural issues, most Americans are right or center right. The more the Republicans buy into the nonsense that these issues are too controversial and will lose Republicans votes, the more hopeless any chance of resisting the cultual left becomes. The people in the middle are alienated by the caricature of conservatives promoted by the Democratic party and their media lapdogs. To fail to discuss real conservative issues and hide from those issues spells doom. Convervative issues must be embraced.

Last, if issues important to conservatives aren't on the media's agenda, the conservatives should change the subject. About mandating doctors and nurses to perform abortions.....

Just say no
To Ms. Parker.
Get her off TH.

The Witch Strikes Again!
"Most important, both [Obama and Jindal] are pragmatists who promise to seek solutions that work, rather than be bound by ideology."

This woman is the kiss of death for any candidate. Like the Miss Parker of the TV Pretender series she is out to destroy everything and everybody she touches.

Calling Obama a pragmatist is like calling Dr. Mengele just another doctor. Barack Obama is an ideologue, for God's sake. He is intent on installing a socialist regime throughout our economy and extinguishing any voices of opposition on radio, a totalitarian on the rise.

But, wait a minute, if Miss Parker is praising President Obama that's a good thing because her praise reveals her true beliefs and maybe TH will relegate her to the obscurity she so surely deserves.

Malkin and Coulter should be put in a rhetorical ring with this pretender. They would make mince meat of her.

Selling Out
The same thing happened to McCain. Rather than stick to his beliefs, he tried to pander to the radical far right. It cost McCain the election. It helped Bush ruin the entire country.

What the huh?
This is one of the most idiotic columns I have read at TH! Ms. Parker has now veered from spewing loathing and disgust at Christians in politics like Sarah Palin, to spouting inanities about Bobby Jindal and Obama.

She actually expects us to believe that Jindal and the President really should 'be on the same team'? What sort of nonsense is this? She arrives at this non sequiteur by asserting that Obama is just another one of those 'pragmatists... ...who promise to seek solutions that work, rather than be bound by ideology." She ends by proclaiming our President to be a " serious thinker" who is working to "craft real bipartisan solutions to our economic troubles." "Bipartisan solutions"?


What the huh? Part 2
OH, REALLY?

Like that $800 billion plus 'stimulus' bill that got a grand total of THREE Republican votes in Congress?

Like a $3.6 TRILLION budget, that according to the Los Angeles Times, no less, will fundamentally alter the role the federal government has played since the Reagan years?

Like cutting the federal deficit before he leaves office to ONLY $500 billion a year? (Hey, that's half of the $1 trillion deficit he's running this year! WHOOPEEEE!!!!)

Like the President's plan to move the Census Bureau into the White House Chief of Staff's office?

To Ms. Parker, these are the acts of a 'pragmatist' seeking 'bipartisan solutions to our economic troubles'? If so, I'd hate to think what she considers to be partisan. Actually I think I can guess: it's anyone who who happens to believe in and and adhere to CONSERVATIVE principles.

What really gets me is that we get these faux Republicans, like Ms. Parker, or Sen. Arlen Spector, to cite another infamous example, who claim that Christians and people of faith are RUINING the Republican Party, and that what the GOP needs to do is jettison the 'values voters' and embrace economic issues as the core of our platform. Then these selfsame 'moderates' turn around and vote for the most massive federal spending bill in history, or proclaim a President who proposes to only spend $500 billion more each year than he can confiscate from the American people a 'pragmatist'! Gee, with these 'moderate' Republicans, we get neither social NOR economic conservatism! So, just tell me, what GOP values DO they stand for?

Apparently, only earmarks.

Great 5th columnists work Parker

Jindal is a true Conservative who gave one bad speech and your ready to kick him to the curb?

I suppose you support Unfit-Mitt Romney, the father of Homosexual Marriage and the $50 Co-Pay for an Abortion (as part of his universal health-care plan in MA)?

Now that he has PURCHASED his way to the top of the CPAC list of Presidential Candidates for 2012. I guess you will be promoting him in your next article? Pathetic Liberal!!!

http://rushtellthetruth.blogspot.com/2008/08/open-letter-to -rush-limbaugh.html)

http://www.clearchannel.com/Corporate/PressRelease.aspx?Pre ssReleaseID=2239

You Sold Me,
Michael W., about Mitt Romney. Aside from his concessions to homosexuals and liberal orthodoxy he is a Mormon and I maintain that is a deal killer for any presidential run. I would say the same about Mike Huckabee, erstwhile Baptist preacher.

Let's just nominate a good Christian, right-to-lifer, who stands for conservative principles. Both Romney and Huckabee have too many negatives.

Bashleen Parker
This is the first time I have read Bashleen since she dragged Sarah Palin through cow manure face down. Miss Onetrickpony doesn't seem to possess much imagination other than to kiss Obama's feet and criticize conservatives. She is the quintessential beltway republican (ie disgusting panderer). I won't make the mistake of reading her again. TH, who's your next columnist--Axelrod? Parker should be banned to the Daily Kos.

Go away
Townhall. Make this woman go away. Kathleen, go away. Just go away.

NOT Conservtive
Do the Dems run around cutting each other up? NO

You could compare Liberals to the Mafia--no criticism allowed.

Valid criticism one one thing--sniping is not constructive. I would bet Hathleen Country Club Republican's remarks will show up in the Daily Kos, the Huffington Post, and Democratic Underground as proof that Republicans hate Jindal.

Prompter Syndrome in reverse.
Know how the Zygote-in-Chief can't tell time without stammering unless it's on a teleprompter? Well Bobby has the reverse problem. He is BETTER off the cuff and unscripted. The handlers were so busy wetting their pants that he might let a gaffe slip they OVERCONTROLLED the situation. This is Bobby Jindal ferchrissakes NOT Joe "the Chia Pet" Biden.

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!

Dave H in AZ.......
Kathleen is absolutely right, Jindal came across like a bumpkin and Republicans need to acknowledge that. To do otherwise makes us look stupid. We know that Jindal is better than that. I have a feeling that some of the same people who remade Sarah Palin had a hand in "instructing" Jindal. Michael Steele wasn't exactly inspiring in his commentary either. Whoever is instructing our candidates in PR needs to go...and go NOW.

Kathleen...Kathleen
DO you still KNOW any Conservatives, or Republicans, that you like? It is time for you to go, with your fellow RINOS and Liberals, to the NYT. Go ahead, you have drunk the kool-aid, now go hang-out with your new friends...we don't need you here.

2016?
What happened the the Presidential elections of 2012??? Or is it a foregone conclution on your part Parker that Obama will win in 2012?

Something you don't understand Parker. The folks, you know, the ones who do most of the tax paying, working and dying in our great Country is fed up with the wild outrageous spending spree Obama and the Democrats have been on since gaining power.

The economy will continue to get worse.
Foreign policy will be all over the road.
The arrogance of this administration may cause many wars in these short 4 years.
Oil prices will go back up and we will be no closer to indepdendence.
The dollar will plummet in value and the cost of everything will double.

This will be Obama's record in 2012, and you consider his re-election a foregone conclusion?

This is just another demonstration of why your articles are hairbrained. Your view is skewed, and you should be commenting on the Daily Kos.

Kick her off townhall?
What does this woman have over you guys that you continue to run her articles?

I do not understand this at all. I haven't seen an article she's written above two stars in 6 months. Most of them have been one star like this article. Guess you can't go any lower than one star, but if it were possible......

If you're all so hard up for columnists, I'll write up something, and I'm sure there's plenty of people on here who could do a much better job of it than Parker.

Just because journalistic standards have plummeted in the last two years, doesn't mean you have to accept the rantings of a liberal loon like Parker.

WOW
Another article by Parker bashing Republicans.Why is she still here?

Obama not bound by ideology ?
Yeah right. And seeking solutions that work ? Give me a break. What a joke of a column.

RUSH @ CPAC SHOULD BE THE MODEL

.....Reluctantly I have to agree Kathleen ...I didn't like Jindal's presentation either ...too much cumbaya ...too much working with the Democrats ...

.....That approach has ruined every Republican from Gingrich thru McCain ...RUSH LIMBAUGH should have delivered the response ...then we would have had a real no-spin zone (sorry O'Reilly but you suck) ...we would have had a no holds barred, non-PC, stem winder that would have driven the Liberals crazy ...

.....Conservatives have ideological differences with the Democrats that cannot be breached or compromised with and the GOP had better realize this or get used to being in the minority ...are you listening MR. Steele? .....COLOSSUS

Where's Katty?
We miss her. Is it because she has been drinking wine with an old coot, and lost her muse in Doug?

What's this "it's a shame" that Jindal isn't best buddies with the President Infanticide. No it isn't. It's a shame that one flight with the messiah and Kathleen is a groupie.

It IS true that staffs ruin candidates. Happened with Bob Dole, and Palin (mostly because John McC. was acting like King Saul to her version of David) and now it's happened to Jindal. That was the only point worth keeping.

Speechwriters are apparently bred from columnists.

Parker Likes Intelligence
so much that it blinds here to Jindal's major shortcoming - he's a coward.

Reagan may not have had Jindal's raw intelligence but he did have the courage of his convictions. Reagan's handlers insisted that he remove a line from one of his speeches. Reagan ignored them and put it back in. Those words inspired not only Americans but the Germans as well and ultimately helped them to do just what he demanded of Gorbachev, they tore down the Berlin Wall.

Jindal, behaving like a child eager to impress the adults around him, simply did as he was told, and may have ended his career.

The desire to be liked and admired has been the downfall of many "almost great" men. The only good that might come of the Jindal debacle will be if Jindal acknowledges this abject failure, dumps his handlers and becomes the defender of liberty that he could be.

Failure is more than a good teacher, it is a test of character. It may just help to bring out the best in Jindal.

Intelligence is necessary, but not sufficient. Without the courage to stand alone, intelligence will just sputter and die.

Kathleen, I agree!
You're right, Kathleen. I'm not a Republican (or a Conservative for that matter) but I've seen Jindal on TV interviews in the past and been very impressed with his intelligence and his ability to look at things in different ways. Tuesday night his canned speech was uninspiring to say the least. His delivery style reminded me of Bob Serpentini a local Cleveland area Chevy dealer who does his own very amateurish TV commercials.

Gov. Jindal was right when he was talking about Hurricane Katrina. In times of emergency, it's our duty and moral responsibility to help our neighbors to keep them from drowning. But we also need the resources of the Federal Government to fix and maintain the levees so it doesn't happen again.

Some of the people who write on this post seem to be mired in their ideology. "Conservatism" seems to be above all else. This seems to have become a kind of quasi-religion. People who disagree are dismissed as "idiots, fascists, communists, kool-aid drinkers, America-haters" and other mean-spirited names not suitable for printing. We are all Americans who care deeply about our country and our world. We need to listen to each other with a respectful ear and not fear the ideas of others. We can learn a lot from each other. I know. That's why I read TownHall (along with the New York Times).

I Have to Like this JIndal
Since Parker and other lib responders dislike his new image, it is a sure sign of fear. No need to investigate further. Welcome GOV Jindal!

Bipartisanship is a recipe for losing
When, oh when are Republicans going to rid themselves of the notion that bipartisanship is ever productive? One need only look at the past 8 years to see that 'bipartisanship', as defined by the common culture, means Republicans and conservatives neutering themselves and succumbing to the will of the Democrats and liberals, getting their teeth kicked in and their derrieres handed to therm in the process. I watched Rush's CPAC address and he is absolutely right about this: when you believe the other party is dead wrong in principle, philosophy, and action, why on earth would any person with an ounce of integrity try to find a way to agree with them? And when was the last time you saw any Democrats saying that they have to "reach across the aisle, work with Republicans and come to agreements with them to get things done for the American people?" Pretty much never, that's when.

We are in an ideological war that one side or the other is going to win. The sooner Republicans realize this the better. Then maybe they'll realize that true conviction and core beliefs don't need PR firms and handlers and will just get out of the way and let these conservative lights be themselves.

Don't worry about it.
Don't worry about it, Kathleen. Nobody watched it anyway.

Pragmatism
"Most important, both are pragmatists who promise to seek solutions that work, rather than be bound by ideology."

Anyone that believes this astonishingly stupid statement should immediately check into rehab.

Pragmatism is based on the proposition that every occurrence in life is unique and therefore you cannot formulate principles to deal with them. ("This economic crisis is unprecedented") You can only experiment and see what "works".

This only serves to make it appear reasonable that attempts that failed to solve problems in the past can, or even should be tried again. ("Just because massive public works programs didn't work before doesn't mean it won't work now")

Pragmatism is, therefore, the principle that you should ignore principles. If Parker is right about Jindal being "pragmatic" then it literally means that Jindal cannot be trusted to act on principle. Haven't we had enough of politicians who state a principle and then ignore it?("I had to violate free market principles in order to save the free market!")

If Parker really believes that intelligence is important then she should resign immediately because she is displaying no intelligence whatsoever.

wow, just wow
You actually made a good point. The Jindal that gave the speech was a caricature better fitting the SNL stage. And Jindal IS smart. Like Palin is smart. And well-meaning speech writers strip them of confidence and put them in a stranglehold.

But what??? Obama and Jindal on the same team??? Would you have wished Hitler and Churchill to join hands together? Obama not drive by idealogy? He's all about ideology. An idealist. A utopian. A controler. A my-way-or-the-highway.

Seems to me the purpose of this article was nothing other than to throw jindal under the bus and find a new way to gush over Obama. Even at the end, you slipped a dig in on Jindal, "he talks too fast...but we love him." Would you say Obama stumbles over his words too much?

Obama doesn't play nice. He doesn't believe in bi-partisanship. He wants all the toys and he doesn't want to share.

Jindal
I think we American conservatives need to be very careful about getting on this Jindal bandwagon. He's a Christian convert zealot with an agenda and a need to be impressive for his own sake. If he's so smart, KP, how did he let himself be lead around by the nose as he must have recently?

Rememeber "You can take the boy out of.....". Let's not make the same mistake that 53% of America did in being starry-eyed over Obama.

Bobby Jindal
Kathleen:

Once again you've hit the nail on the head.

I was asked to host a reception in Los Angeles last year for Bobby Jimdal by a good friend. They wanted to do it at a club and needed a member to sponsor it. I agreed.

We invited people, made arranmgements, and put it all together.

The day before the event, Jindal's people abruptly canceled by calling my friend.

Did Bobby himself bother to call and apologize and thank people for their work? Did he write a letter to apologize and thank everyone for their hard work? Did he offer to attend by videoconference? Did he reschedule? Nope, none of the above.

I've raised thousands, maybe millions for candidates in my life. Ask me if I'd ever lift a finger for Bobby Jindal.

He needs not only to fire his staff; he needs to fire his campaign people.

Sheldon Sloan
Past President State Bar of California

The Party
This is the typical Republican Party again. It is exactly the same thing they did to Sarah Palin. "The Party" knows best. New faces have to fit into the old tired mold. How will the Republican Party ever renew itself? They don't have to change their values, but the American People would like a fresh approach. Let the new Republicans be themselves.

Reagan was his own self-made person and that was the personality the American People saw and loved. However, the Republicans fail to allow their candidates to be a personality and continue to put out the same clone in different skin. Until the Party understands this they will remain the underdog.

You know what, Ms. Parker?
Maybe it's not Jindal. Maybe it's you using a liberal yardstick by which you judge him. I didn't hear the speech but I read it later. I would like to know when we're going to stop focusing on delivery style and listen to the actual message; or at the least look for some real balance between the two.

I,for one, am tired of viewing the government of this country through the lens of American Idol. If that's the kind of government you want perhaps you'd be better suited writing for a liberal organization rather than one that purports to be conservative on most issues.

Your article reminds me of a person who stated on Fox not long ago that it was refreshing to have a president who can pronounce words properly. I'd much prefer a president who knows what the words he's pronouncing mean. I'm not all that sure Obama does. Considering how often he misuses words perhaps he's hoping nobody else knows the meanings to them, either.

Jindal and Other Conservatives
As long as we allow the MSM to judge
As long as we refuse to frame the argument and allow the Libtards to frame the discussion and dodge the questions,
As long as we abandon our conservative principles
As long as we view speeches through TV standards...style over content...

We will never make an impact.

The heck with the MSM media standards...let's remember they are the press secretaries for Obambi!!!

Katleen
Shut up! You have nothing to say worth hearing

To conservative online
Open invitation to a great conservative blog website where honest debates on the issues is always welcomed. Stop by for a visit and sit a spell. It is my favorite conservative site and we are generally civil and respectfully to one another opinions and enjoy civil debates on all the current issues. The web address is http://noleftturnz.wordpress.com/


Doesn't the Huffington site have room?
Kathleen, seriously, get off any pretense of being a Conservative. What do you think? Are you the self-appointed Superego of the Republican Party? You are such a goof...seriously...why the hell do you bother to expend such low levels of thought to such a great extent on this site?

Wax Figures
re: " I'd much prefer a president who knows what the words he's pronouncing mean "

So would I, but the fact is that unless conservatives find an effective way to present our good ideas, no one will listen to them.

Jindal did look nervous and tight. His good ideas did not get through because of that.

So often, our ideas are presented by a wax figure chorus line of dark blue suit, red tie, white helmet hair stiffs who after all this time still don't know what to do with their hands.

Witness the phony "fingers glued together" arm chop that "public speakers" believe passes for "emphasis" when they make what they think is an important point that turns out to be just another congressional procedural point that is all important to them but makes no sense at all to the person on the street who would like to believe in conservative values because they make sense.

It just make them look like wax figure dummies, so you can't blame people for wondering if they really are.

Jindal's words make sense, but.........it's like a tree falling in the forest.

Palin looks and sounds real most of the time.. But when the "handlers" take over, most all of the people who speak for us turn into a stage-managed chorus line of wax figures.

Obama wins that one, he can carry that off and make people believe total nonsense.

Palin being interviewed in the kitchen has a sense reality. Have not seen that at all from Jindal yet. Good words, but the presentation gives the other side fodder to use against the good idea. As I said, his words make sense, but......


You must have good ideas BUT they must be well presented. That has and always will be true and undeniable. We are not getting that.

It all makes me want to find a "handler" and punch him or her out for the principle of the thing.



Darn. SNL was a repeat last night
I was hoping to see what they would do with Jindal and his speech.

It is obvious that most of you did not see the speech nor ever heard Jindal talk. If you thought that was a good speech, it is no wonder the GOP lost.

I loath Sarah Palin. Anyone who thinks man walked with the dinosaurs is an idiot. Anyone with that great faith does not deserve to be president of ALL AMERICANS.

Don't get me wrong. I want her to run in 2012. We need the comic relief. What I would like even better would be for a debate between Jinal and Palin. Her ignorance and dogma driven politics will allow a southerner and a gentleman to devastate her views while only telling the truth.

Good column Kathleen. Apparently true believers cannot tolerate the truth at any level.

Jindal's speech
The presentation was the problem; the written speech itself was fine. The backdrop was unattractive. The vocalization was sing-songy rather than dynamic. All those elements can be improved markedly. A Romney/Jindal team in 2012 would be a compelling contrast to the socialist Obama/Obama team.

Right on!
Hey "Bleeding Heart Liberal" - thanks for a great post. I would love to see a debate between Palin and Jindal. It would be great theater!

Low Expectations...
Kat,
Once again you have not disappointed me; as I exspected you came through loud & clear...

Now, please take your own advice & fire your staff & reorginize; "You can tell but cannot teach unless you practice what you preach...

Time?
Maybe it's time for Townhall to drop Parker from the Columnists. Talk about where's the old Bobby? Where's the old Kathleen? Lately, I find Parker's opinions to rank right up there with TH's annoying popup advertisements.

Fair and Balanced?
If Ms. Parker "the Obama's are so fit! I just love riding on their plane!" is Townhall's attempt at fair and balance I for one would like to say that I don't get it.
There is a place for judicious criticism within a party but, she's not it.
It will be hard enough for Conservatives to come together when the brand is so in disarray without the constant "i agree with the liberals and i want everyone to recognize me as being with the educated group so i must put down conservatives at all times in order to be seen as a valid member of the intelligenzia and get invited to the next wine party".
I agree Gov Jindal looked wooden and he is better without a script but, it's the WORDS not the delivery that should concern us all.
I don't want another Poser. I don't want someone Slick and Polished I want someone Sincere who means what they say and says what they mean. He's extremely bright and has done unbelievable things in Louisiana (my home state) in a short amount of time. So he made a less than wonderful speech? Couldn't you have spent your time and column talking about they things he's done instead of his delivery? I sincerely hope he is handled better but, you Ms. Parker no longer qualify as someone within a party that has a legitimate right to critique.

Obama's Tuesday Night Primetime Budget
Speech racked up 52.4 million viewers (this is roughly double the average viewership for "American Idol").

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According to Gallup Daily:


Obama approval rating: 67%

Obama disapproval rating: 21%

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Congressional Approval ratings


RCP average: 31.8%

Gallup: 31%


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Presidential Approval Ratings Upon Leaving Office (per Gallup):


Bill Clinton: 66%

Ronald Reagan: 63%

George W. Bush: 34%


Where's Kathleen
Thanks for sharing. To be honest Cupcake, we liked the old Kathleen better. At this site, no one really care what the new Kathleen has to say. Your opinions carry no more weitht than any other disingenuous liberal talking points. Go back to the cocktail parties and don't forget the story about how you actually rode on Obama's jet. The other liberals will think that's really cool.

Rasmussen Reports
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Since release of the President’s budget, the number of Republicans who Strongly Disapprove has grown to 57%. That’s up fourteen percentage points since Thursday morning. Only 8% of Democrats share such a negative assessment.

Fifty-six percent (56%) say that Obama is a good or an excellent leader. Just 24% say he is a poor leader. For more measures, see Obama By the Numbers.

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While the President’s numbers are down slightly since the inauguration, they remain substantially higher than the ratings for President George W. Bush. In February 2005, 28% Strongly Approved of Bush’s performance while 33% Strongly Disapproved. During the final full month of the Bush Administration, just 13% Strongly Approved and 43% Strongly Disapproved.

Rasmussen Reports had the highest level of correct outcomes of any polling done during the past elections on a consistent basis.

"...no faith in Americans' intelligence"
That's just shows that his staff has been paying attention. Lack of cognitive power is the most likeley reason I can come up with to explain why, in a time of economic collapse, we would elect a man who ran on a platform of new government entitlement spending the likes of which has not been seen since FDR.

Government going broke? Tax revenues crashing through the basement? Stock market in freefall? Unemployment rocketing towards depression era scales? Americans fatter, more depressed, living longer with assorted chronic health problems at epidemic levels?

Obama knows what we should do...we'll increase tax rates on those citizens most likely to create jobs, create brand new "entitlement" programs we cannot possibly afford, and use even more taxpayer money than ever before in history to reward our special interest patrons and cronies for their support in helping us get more power for politicians and government bureaucrat.

If that isn't stupidity, what is it?

Will
As Newt asked: How dumb do you think we are? I guess Gallup got an answer for many in America and you answered that question about yourself. Let's see where the numbers are after American's realize what Cap and Tax actually costs them and how many new sustainable jobs the liberals, unions, trial lawyers and welfare recipients can actually create.

Before this thing ends; you, the lying msm and the rest of your liberal pals will learn just how dumb you really are. Good luck pal, you're gonna need it.

Homoginize!!

Just as homogenization makes all milk taste the same, it does the same thing for politicians. Bobby Jindal is the REAL DEAL and has been a godsend to Louisiana. He solves problems quickly and without consideration to politics.

Of course, POLITICS is the FIRST THING anyone must pay attention to on the national scene. And there are so many people out there just waiting to be offended, so one must TONE DOWN what one KNOWS to be the problem and make "reasonable" statements about it.

The problem is that the democrat plan is UNREASONABLE and one cannot deal with it in reasonable terms like Jindal TRIED to do. It didn't work. It didn't work for Sara Palin either.

Clint Eastwood is correct when he says this political correctness foolishness is way out of hand. It's time for Jindal, Plain , Newt and other conservatives to take the gloves off, lose the homogenized speaches, and tell it like it is. Those who will be offended by that are not on our side anyway. The democrats want a bare knuckled fight. It's time we quit fooling around with watered down conservatives like Bush and McLame and gave them a bare knuckled conservative fight, but if Jindal and the others listen to the "handlers" in the corner, they are going to continue to lose.

Where's Bobby?
I watched his remarks and I don't see what the problem that commentators are going on and on about. He was simple and sincere and clear about what is wrong with the stimulus and what Republicans preferred to be done.

Anything wonkish would have lost the crowd of the economically-challenged types who voted for and would listen to Obama.

He didn't need to instruct conservatives, he needed to reach the ignorant.

Many of you people giving advice
are the same people who swore up and down that McCain/Palin was a winning ticket (oh, yes! you were absolutely certain! Some of you wrote that Obama was "toast" and then wrote "HAHAHAHAHA!")

Some of you yahoos STILL believe Palin is a winner (for 2012).

Some yahoos at CPAC voted for Newt Gingrich in the Straw Poll.


To say that the conservatives (and republicans) are in a severe state of disarray, and in the midst of a debilitating identity crisis, is to state the obvious.

I hope you guys eventually find your way again (pppt: Palin and Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh are not the way!).

Please, Townhall, dump Kathleen Parker
I don't come here to read Obama-worshipping writers, I can get that anywhere. Please dump this hack in favor of someone who can articulate conservative principles.

Conservatives and Republicans
Until the Republican Party comes back to the roots of Conservatism and abandons trying to be the party that is everything to everyone, we are not going to win elections. Put another way, we as Republicans have not given anyone a reason to vote for us.

I'd like to address the comment made by Will from California, who refers to others as "yahoos" if they dare to align with true conservatives. Sir, your brand of "moderate" politics is exactly what has lost two major election cycles for the Republican Party. Had Sarah Palin not been on McCain's ticket he'd have been clobbered far worse than he was.

I respect Mr. McCain for his military service and sacrifice to this country, but politically he and I agree on very little.

The "way forward" for the Republicans is a simple one - Move very definitively to the right and stand on Conservative Values. Be the Anti-Pelosi, Anti-Reid and yes, Anti-Obama party. Reject them not for who they are, but for what they stand for and give the people of this country hope in the greatness of America for what it is and what it's made up of, as opposed to placing hope in an elitist government that in reality is a wealth destruction and generational theft machine.

If nothing else, the GOP needs to become the party that reminds Lord Obama, Lady Pelosi and Squire Reid that the Constitution begins with "We the People" NOT "You the subjects". That's a damn good place to start.

Get Rid of Kathleen Parker
Will she miss her flight on Air Force one?

time to get rid of this witch

THE OBAMANATION REP IS BACK
IT DID NOT TAKE YOU LONG TO RETURN TO THE HATE MONGER YOU HAVE ALWAYS BEEN. BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW THE LIBERAL CAN NOT BE, NOR DO ANYTHING RACIST, DISPITE OF THE DEMOCRATS INVITED JIM CROW STYLE POLITICS. AT LEAST YOU DID NOT USE THE VICE-PRESIDENT BIDEN LINE ABOUT 7-11.

Reply to Ranger 29
Ranger29
Location: TX

ANSWERS:
1)He could have VETOED the Community Development Act that is the brainchild of democrats under Jimmy Carter that allowed democrats to take control of Freddy Mac and Fannie Mae. They then would not have made all of those bad loans that the banks were FORCED to purchase by the Janet Reno Justice Department. The TREMENDOUS BAD DEBT generated by Freddie and Fannie PRECIPITATED this entire financial problem that has now spread worldwide.
2) NONE. Try reading the Constution, especially the Bill Of Rights which are there specifically to LIMIT the powers of the Imperial fFderal Government.
3) Conservatism can be revelant by stopping those changes which are ruining our nation. We want to put real learning back into schools so that students can read, write and do math; put Chistianity back into public life so there will be moral standards again; make government accountable at all levels; make people responsible for the decisions they make in life and NOT ALLOW them to use the standard excuses for their laziness; give everyone more personal freedoms which are being taken away every day at an ever faster rate; establish a tax system that gives those who produce the wealth the power to determine when, where, how, and how much of that wealth is spent; get government at all levels OUT OF the lives of Americans; secure the borders and round up all illegals and deport them IMMEDIATELY; reestablish a controlable immigration policy; rebuild and expand the military; put the FAIR TAX into place and dispose of the IRS.

And those are just for starters. I could go on, but I'm limited by space here.

Mrs Parker
I thought this was a conservative website (I am new to Townhall.com). If so, why is she a guest columnist?? There is not a conservative I know who would consider her anything but a blue-dog dem (at best).

Bobby Jindal
She's right! The speech that Gov. Jundal last Tuesday was static . I hope he's is as smart as Kathleen Parker says he is. We ae going to need him. Where is his staff.Last week I read a letter to the editor of our local paper who blamed the republicans about the debacle in
New Orleans. Where are the intelligent people on his staff to rebut those statements. Everybody knows there wasn't one republican in power in Louisiana during Katrina. Can anyone explain how $20 billion dollars can disappear that was meant for aid to New Orleans.
That was why Bobby became governor. The state's own citizens were smart enough to know where the corruption occurred.

scott ... Are you kidding me?
Ever heard of independent thinking? How about reality? Are we supposed to cheer Bush for the tarp package because he's "on our team?" That would make someone narrow minded. I would support Jindal for pres - but Parker's right - he was awful in his delivery the other night.

Parker not a Blue Dog Democrat
Before Blue Dog Democrats push their "deeply offended" button at being likened to Ms. Parker, I wish to stand up for them by saying Ms. Parker has a far more sinister role to play. Her job, as she apparently sees it, is to provide cover for the Liberal Left and the MSM when they try to eviscerate any potential Conservative candidate (see Sarah Palin). After Ms. Parker "does her thing," the Liberal mouthpieces then get to say things such as, "It's not just those on the Left who recognize the (fill in whatever contemptible phrases you'll find in the Left's playbook) of (fill in the name of Bobby Jindal, Sarah Palin, or whoever the threat du jour may be); conservatives such as Kathleen Parker have pointed out these problems as well." You must confess, she does that job extremely well. But why Townhall continues as a willing accomplice is beyond me.

Elitists - Parker is one!
Why is it Elitists like Parker believe only Elitists are capable of governing? They certainly don't believe Public Service is being EMPLOYED by Common Sense Americans.
Politicians are frantically searching for the way to weave their public persona into something they are not, while the majority of American Voters are looking for TRUE Integrety, Character,and Common Sense in an elected public servent who will put the country before personal ego and vote buying.

Ms. Parker on Townhall.com
Thank you Townhall for keeping Ms.Parker available to us. I enjoy reading her country club Republican views. It is the only way we will figure out how to win the next election.

For those who do not like her thougts, do not read her colums. Your comments make you sound like progressive liberal leftist Democrats who cannot abide a dissenting opinion.

I am also amazed at how many progressive liberal leftist losers comment on these conservative columns.




my two cents
Kathleen Dear,

IGNORE the naysayers. You ROCK

Jindal was playing an unwinnable game and he did seem a bit off his game, but this will soon be forgotten.

Others will pop up as time goes by because from here it looks as if our chosen one is gonna pull a jimmuh carter and be a one term president.

Governor Jindal...........
You need to weed out of your inner circle of the LGBT Republicans who would undermine your future candidacy. Whereas there is common ground amongst the liberal and conservative base regarding fiscal responsibility and national security, after the 50 year free ride given to the LGBT community, there remains nothing but narcissistically behavior directed toward social conservatives by the liberal Republicans. If you acquiesce, the Democrats remain in control regardless of whether they destroy the country by undermining the Constitution.

Dennis the Fool
"Her [KP] job, as she apparently sees it, is to provide cover for the Liberal Left and the MSM when they try to eviscerate any potential Conservative candidate (see Sarah Palin)."

Do you feel like a conspiratorial nut-job when you write something like this? I mean really, do you believe this nonsense?

I guess it's OK to have to you mungs continue down this path of nonsense and craziness...it'll allow the grown-ups to fix things.

There is no contest............
between Jindal, Palin, and Romney. Two pseudoconservatives vs the legitimate conservative. Jondal needs to bone up on the psychopathology of the LGBT community in order to immediately recognize the controlling and manipulative behavior of his LGBT advisors. This is no time to be giving them the benefit of the doubt.

Rhino
Kathleen Parker.

I wrote a letter to my editor concerning the rantings of this "journalist". My editor says: "But she's a conservative". Well I don't care what you call her, this lady does not belong in polite company with real conservatives. She is a plant. She is not looking out for the best of the conservative movement. Every article I have read that she has penned, including this one is a roose.

TH. Your wasting your money and helping to destroy the conservative movement.

Her ideas are junk. She should be restricted to the pages of the NY times or Newsweek with all the other socialist defenders.

She aint one of us. I don't give me this phoney argument that she has a right to speak. So, does Obama and I don't see you writing articles in his defense of spending to create a socialist paradise.

Kathleen is Right
Jindals speach was bad, ive seen him speak before and it seemed he did a better job, but she is wrong when she says Obamas a deep thinker, he is not, what he is is a good reader, all his speaches are written for him, he just reads them from a teleprompter, when talking with out notes he gets confused very easily, he never answers direct questions with direct answers. I dont know who is controlling him but somebody is.

Rhino
Kathleen Parker.

I wrote a letter to my editor concerning the rantings of this "journalist". My editor says: "But she's a conservative". Well I don't care what you call her, this lady does not belong in polite company with real conservatives. She is a plant. She is not looking out for the best of the conservative movement. Every article I have read that she has penned, including this one is a roose.

TH. Your wasting your money and helping to destroy the conservative movement.

Her ideas are junk. She should be restricted to the pages of the NY times or Newsweek with all the other socialist defenders.

She aint one of us. I don't give me this phoney argument that she has a right to speak. So, does Obama and I don't see you writing articles in his defense of spending to create a socialist paradise.

I'm SO glad the posters here are saying
that Barack Obama is going to be a "one-term president"!

If there's one thing I've learned from a couple years of reading Townhall columns and its posters is: The posters almost always get it exactly wrong. If you take what they say and reverse it, that's closer to the truth.

Texas Upchuck
What an assinine remark of course the GOP will not run from Rush, he is the shining star of the GOP. Rush articulates the GOP views better than anybody else and all conservatives love him. I know you hate him as all liberals hate him because he speaks the truth, and you cant stand the truth. You are like most Liberals, i doubt very much, that you have ever listened to Rush, you just assume that you already know what he is going to say so you leave the room or change the station until he is done. Of course its not just your fault all liberals have a closed mind and fear that a thought might creap in. It comes with the tag (liberal) but we dont want you to change, we need bad examples to point to.

Barack Obama and One Term
In response to Will from California and in support of those who see Barack Obama as a one term president, I too believe he will see one term and out.

The reason isn't because of anything the GOP and it's operatives are doing though. There is no brilliant strategy making itself apparent on the Republican side of the aisle.

The reason is a matter of leadership, and more specifically, the evidence pointing to the severe lack of leadership on the part of Barack Obama. It's apparent that he doesn't grasp leadership principles at all, probably because leadership in it's truest sense is directly opposite of liberalism. Leadership, by its very nature is offensive. You cannot be politically correct and be a leader, the politically correct demand a dictator and to be dicated to. Dictaors lead the weak and those who have been broken or have abandoned hope. In reality, the American People are not broken spirits, we are not victims and we are not a nation of brianless morons who need a nanny state or a quasi-Socialist President to dictate to us. In fact, a great many of us will not tolerate that.

Barack Obama may give great speeches, well so can a lot of people, especially when they're reading. Harrison Ford looked not only credible, but more Presidential when he starred in Air Force One than Obama does now, but that doesn't mean that in realty he can effectively BE the President. We need leadership, not a celebrity in the White House. Barack Obama's star quality cannot be ignored, but it also doesn't make up for his inability to grasp the position and his being bereft of leadership skills.

In leadership, liberalism fails where conservative values stand solid.

terry from ME
we have already witnessed how "conservatives" from maine think i.e. your representation in washington terry so it doesn't surprise me that you would agree with ms. parker.
while it's probably accurate to call yourselves moderate republicans (and we all know what moderate republicans did to the brand not to mention the country) you cannot describe yourselves as conservatives and so you shouldn't claim yourselves mouthpieces for the brand...bcos you clearly aren't.

Real conservatives don't...
Real conservatives don't really believe all that much in science. Jindal was showing his conservative bona fides when he showed his ignorance of the benefits of volcano research. I no longer expect conservatives to be scientifically literate. I was glad to see Jindal's opinions on such open display. Republicans are right to think of him as a credible presidential candidate. Especially if Joe the Plumber is unavailable.

Get over yourself Kathleen
Ya know...,I do not presume to know the "OLD" Bobby Jindal. Apparently Kathleen...,you knew him. Are you kidding me? He had a difficult job. Leave him alone.

There are so many important things that you could be writing about. This is what you pick?

Our Community Organizer President is doing crazy things. Listening to him..., I feel as though I live in some third world country awaiting clothes from the Planet Aid bin.

But hey...,you just keep doing your little fluff articles. It is your forte'. And to quote YOU, "Life's a cupcake...,really."

The fourth estate is dead. You helped!

two cents
All right. Everyone else has thrown in his two cents so I'll throw in mine.

This is the first KP column I have read in 5 months. And having read it I know I didn't miss anything. And by the way-the best way to get KP dropped is to not click on her columns. I'd be willing to bet that she is judged by TH by the number of hits on her column-not the content. And by the number of comments she is getting lots of hits which makes her look good to those who keep the stats.

Jindal gave a bad speech because opposition responders always do. I have never seen a good opposition response to a presidential speech. The very idea of doing so is one of those dumb ideas that should never have seen the light of day. All we did -just as McCain did with Palin-was throw another one of our up and comers into a position they could not possibly win.

Why Bother?
I don't bother to read any of what kp writes anymore. I just click on her dabbling to read the comments. They're concise, to the point and much more interesting.

Gestell
Spoken like a true liberal who believes they have exclusive rights to intellectual discourse when in fact people who are that narrow in their scope and throw blanket remarks like "true conservatives don't like science" out there should at least be educated enough to realize how ridiculous they sound.
gov jindal was reacting to volcanic research as a reflection of the stimulus package not negating it's place in a society but it's place in a stimulus package.
of course if your purpose is just to malign and negate as i generally view the liberal posts on this site then bravo gestell well done.

Hey KP
Just can't read you! It's obvious you don't give a damn about your audience or the American taxpayer. Anyone with any inate intelligence would be interested in feedback to possibly gain some insight into what people are thinking. I thought everyone was incredibly hostile when I first started reading your column. Now I understand why. My feedback; I can't EVER make it past your article title! All are damning of anything that speaks to true liberty seekers. LISTEN TO RUSH LIMBAUGH'S SPEECH AT CPAC YESTERDAY. He outed you and your ilk. A bit of advice---you ought to LEARN the kindergarten principle that you get more flies with honey than vinegar. Then try writing an article header that might garner some interest in your point of view regardless of how twisted it is. I so much enjoy reading Thomas Sowell and other writers like him; therefore I find myself between a rock and a hard place... to stop reading TH to protest your shilling for liberals and the "One" or to just ignore your bloviating, thereby tacitly lending credence to the illusion that you are in any way a lover of the constitution and limited government. TH readers, let us all cc our comments to Townhall and not just put them here. After all, if we can't convince townhall of our dissatisfaction, just how the hell are we going to convince Americans that our ideas have merit? It might be a great idea to email other columnists and ask them to forward our thoughts to townhall to greaten the impact. How about it? Does anyone else have any ideas---I'm all ears in getting rid of KP who, according to her, lives of her niece in the apartment that she may lose because her college didn't pay off and "reward" her with a job worthy of her perceived status.

Gestell
"Real conservatives don't really believe all that much in science"

Would you like to explain how a conservative who doesn't really believe in science has as his hobbies-geology and astronomy.

And btw: Would you like to explain how this organization and these cameras existed before the Brilliant And Uniquely Qualified To Be President Obama thought up volcano research funding?

http://www.avo.alaska.edu/webcam/

Real liberals do not believe in science
Why else would they be attempting to normalize neurotic behavior and its associated paraphilias without the benefit of replicable, empirical data? Let's just see what the consensus is among neurotic legal and medical professionals. We did that in 1955 and codified fraud into the ALIMPC. This is where we are. Please debate the facts if you are going to debate. I'm waiting for you to provide replicable data by taking MRI polygraphs because the current consensus still does not support your position.

the good news about Jindal's speech
Many people like me, don't care to watch Obama speak so never tuned in at all, thus missing Jindal too.
I'm sure those lefties who are so smitten with Obama quickly switched the channel when a, gasp!...., Republican was going to give another viewpoint.
But millions of liberals watch the Today show and were treated to the real Bobby Jindal.The trick is to see if they will believe their own eyes and ears or if they will believe what some lefty pundit tells them about what they missed.

replies to Dave M #3 and rebekah #5
For Dave M: I gather that you think Obama just invented volcano research. And you thought I was kidding when I said you right-wingers are scientifically illiterate. It took me all of 30 seconds to find the following. Read some of them—if you can—and learn both why volcano research is actually useful and how it is done. I doubt if you'll come away with very much that you can grasp—I mean, you might actually have to learn something, and that would be a stretch, now, wouldn't it? As for your hobbies being geology and astronomy, I wonder if I'd win a bet if I wagered that you're a Young Earther.

For rebekah: Your point is obscure. You write: gov jindal was reacting to volcanic research as a reflection of the stimulus package not negating it's place in a society but it's place in a stimulus package." What's that supposed to mean? The line item is in Obama's federal budget, NOT the stimulus package. So the only reasonable inference is that Jindal (a) doesn't think volcanic research belongs in the federal budget and (b) doesn't know much of anything about this area of research. Why Parker thinks this guy is a great mind eludes me.

http://www.geo.mtu.edu/volcanoes/


http://solidearth.jpl.nasa.gov/PAGES/volc04.html


http://www.nmt.edu/mainpage/news/2008/25nov03.html

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/03/050328185110.h tm

http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/volc/monitoring.html

http://quake.usgs.gov/research/deformation/modeling/

http://www.intlvrc.org/alerts.htm



Miz Parker & the Vicious Circle Jerk!
I can see them all now, FoolMuse, Wobbie, HalDoofus, Sophistry, "A", and a host of others. If they keep this up they'll all need Lasik soon.

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!

DHulme: MD  Mar 1, 2009 - 5:53 PM EST

Another Blue State Liberal offering NOTHING but acronyms and opinion (no references, no citations). Nothing to even attempt to have people understand what he is talking about (which as far as I can tell, has nothing to do with the subject of the article).

Bobby Jindal and most of the Producers in America have a problem with the following;

“It’s not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody that is behind you,
that they have a chance for success too. I think that when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.” Barack Obama

The principles (redistribution of wealth) and problems of socialism were summed up by Margaret Thatcher very well: "The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money.”

What Bobby Jindal and Sarah Palin are trying to explain to the “Country Club Republicans” and those voters, who may be experiencing “Buyers Remorse.” is this:

“Power without principle is barren, but principle without power is futile.”

Republicans need to get back to the principles of the Reagan Revolution (Respect for life and property, Less government, more Respect for the Constitution, and MORE Personal responsibility)


Four Words
Fantasize: Pragmatism, Bi-partisan Solutions.

These four words from this typically perceptive article really stand out for me!

Two more words to make six and to make this whole thing work: President Obama.

p.s.

I also liked the idea that Jindal will most likely run in 2016! That sort of implies that Obama will, in spite of everything, have two terms when all is said and done.


In the immortal words of Sesame Street
"One of these things is not like the others,
One of these things just doesn't belong,
Can you tell which thing is not like the others
By the time I finish my song?"

Bleeding Heart Liberal: "Anyone with that great faith does not deserve to be president of ALL AMERICANS."

Ellen: "Hey "Bleeding Heart Liberal" - thanks for a great post."

**********************************************************************US Constitution, Article VI: "No religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."
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"Did you guess which thing was not like the others?
Did you guess which thing just doesn't belong?
If you guessed this one is not like the others,
Then you're absolutely...right! "


Gestell
you could have saved yourself a lot of trouble and time had you actually read gov jindal's speech. Here is the paragraph that reference's your topic of contention:


But Democratic leaders in Congress -- they rejected this approach. Instead of trusting us to make wise decisions with our own money, they passed the largest government spending bill in history, with a price tag of more than $1 trillion with interest. While some of the projects in the bill make sense, their legislation is larded with wasteful spending. It includes $300 million to buy new cars for the government, $8 billion for high-speed rail projects, such as a "magnetic levitation" line from Las Vegas to Disneyland, and $140 million for something called "volcano monitoring." Instead of monitoring volcanoes, what Congress should be monitoring is the eruption of spending in Washington, D.C.

No where does gov jinal say that volcanoes should not be monitored.
It's easy to state that a thought is obscure when you in fact have no wish to deal with the issue at hand...sometimes a windmill is just a windmill but, tilt away!
you miss the entire purpose of his speech and refuse gov. jindal any credit for what he has accomplished and focus instead on inane, misconstruded picked apart pieces of one speech.
so far, that pretty much sums up any discourse i have had on blogs with liberals.

To Betty, JohnGalt70, and Others
Betty doesn't watch a major speech made by the President of the United States because she disagrees with him. John wants an author removed from townhall because he disagrees with her. Just about every townhall thread finds posters presenting those attitudes: "I want to hear only what I already agree with---I want only reinforcement of what I already think." Worse---"Get rid of folks I disagree with." Posts to townhall go so far as to advocate armed insurrection against agents of a government they didn't vote for and with which they disagree. I am troubled about this---this is not the United States I grew up in. We are a two-party nation. We should listen to one another with tolerance and respect. 150 years ago John Stuart Mill said, "He who knows only his own case knows little of that".

reply to rebekah #2
Clearly, close analysis of speeches isn't your main strength. The list of items Jindal presents, which includes volano research, follows the conclusion of his sentence that ends with "wasteful spending." "Wasteful spending" is what the items on the list exemplify. Even before "wasteful spending," he chooses the verb "larded." I hope this is clear, even for you as a conservative. Any normal reading of the English language would conclude as I did that Jindal intended to characterize the things he named as examples of wasteful spending.

Now, let me explain Jindal's rhetorical strategy here: He listed things that sound weird or odd or unnecessary to simple-minded conservatives. He even resorted to a cheap trick--the use of what we learned folks know as "scare quotes"--with "magnetic levitation." Sounds strange, right? Sorry, but maglev railroad technology is pretty old now.

Now I just have to ask: were you home-schooled or something?

hey lilly


how many of W's speeches did you listen to?
if rush limbaugh had a column in the huffington post would you complain?
it would be impossible to list all the many liberal "up at arms" we've had to listen to in the media, on blogs and from liberal individuals through out W's term.
if this "troubles you" you are hyper sensitive and should read the dailykos and others and toughen up bcos it's the fight between the two opposing views that generally works out the kinks in the two party system...although a lot of us aren't republicans at all, rather that dreaded third party libertarian.

A question for conservatives
So Bobby Jindal is thought of as a really bright guy over there on the Right. OK, I'll have to agree. Just like Sarah Palin in the next Ronald Reagan...

Reagan and Liberals ?

Sarah Palin is NOT the next Reagan, BUT she does get the base of the Republican Party fired up the way Reagan did, AND THAT IS WHY ALL YOU LIBERALS ARE SO WORKED UP ABOUT HER.

Likewise, Bobby Jindal is NOT B.O. He is a CONSERVATIVE Republican and that REALLY has all you Liberals worked up.

Liberals and their newspapers are only good for the bottom of the bird cage!

Michael W.
"Reagan Democrat"


No Point
Rebekah from KS:

I just read Gestell's responses to our posts.

Gestell somehow managed to completely miss the point of both our posts.

I see two possibilities.

One is that Gestelle's mind is so mired with misconceptions that he can't get past them - in which case he is a classic example of what Rush calls "Wanton Stupidity"

The other is that he got the point but is just trying to get our goat- in which case he's simply a small man with a small mind.

So do I laugh at him or do I shake my head in contempt? Maybe both

Those well meaning
people who "helped" Jindal with his speech were probably the blue-blooded RINO's of NE fame.
I like what this man accomplishes and it is far more than Obama did here in my sad state of Illinois.
Ms. Parker gets on my last nerve with her constant attacks on real conservatives. It gives fodder for the trash at DailyKos, Huff and Puff, Crooks & Liars (such an appropriate name for their site!), etc. But then she still has the great, um, er, ah, oh, well, Orator on the brain?

Koolmuse must be...

The product of a “Public School Eduction.”

He has all the wit and charm of an unfinished basement. He and Parker should immigrate over to the Daily Kos, where I'm sure they will live happily ever after.

Michael W.
“Reagan Democrat”

Gestell
"Now I just have to ask: were you home-schooled or something"

This comment, intended as insult, just demonstrates Gestell's massive ignorance. The average homeschool student can run circles around the average public school student intellectually. That is a fact not even open to debate. But Gestell won't let facts get in his way.

I'd bet what Gestell really hates about homeschool students is that he can't get his mitts on them to dumb them down and make them one of socialism's little mindless-drone robots.



Kathryn Jean Lopez
This girl has written a different sort of article about Gov. Jindal's speech . Check it out.

reply to rebekah
You really can't grasp what Jindal said, can you? How plain does something have to be for you to comprehend it? That's why I made my crack about home-schooling. Something stands in the way of you understanding a very simple set of sentences. My sympathies.

Want TH to dump KP?
I've made this point here before, but Townhall still doesn't seem to get it. Don't you see that what Parker is doing is a marketing ploy? Liberal newspapers feel they have to run a "conservative" or two on their op-ed pages so they can claim that they're presenting both sides of the issues. By running her column, Townhall awards KP the conservative imprimatur, and this makes it easy for her to sell her wares to liberal editors, who frankly have no interest in presenting "both sides" -- and with KP, they're not.

It is time for Townhall pull the rug from under her -- as National Review did with Garry Wills in the '60s -- so she can no longer present herself as a "conservative". Even if TH has a contract with her, such contracts usually only require them to pay her for her columns; they don't require them to run them.

TH doesn't seem to have a way for readers to register their complaints, so let me suggest a more drastic step if they insist on keeping KP's column: boycott Townhall! Most of these columns are available elsewhere on the Web. If TH starts losing "hits", they're ad revenue will decline, and this just might get their attention.

Hilarious!
The way TH readers cannot hear a negative word about anyone the GOP rolls out. That you cannot look, with a critical eye, at Palin or Jindal or Limbaugh. Every article here has to have a cheerleader tone that puts these unqualified people on a pedestal. Parker gets it. Jindal blew it. He is smarter that that speech. He looked childish and incompetent. That's what being dragged about by the powers that be do to you.

Go, Kathleen Parker! You are the only objective writer on this website.

jindal just doesn't have it
what most conservatives seem to forget is that louisiana of all states would be sinking economically but for all the federal money and help that arrived after katrina.

for jindal to claim he cut taxes and has built back the economy there is simply laughable.

I hate KP!!!!
Bobby Jindal was as polite and respectful as any speaker I've seen in a long time in during his speech Tuesday night. It was great. This notion that he had to come out and wow America is insane. He was under no pressure at all and he used the time to put forth a concise, articulate and intelligent message. It may have been a little quirky but like all the best republican leaders, it was right on. Spot on. Kathleen needs to start seeing the cup half-full and not half-empty. I'm thirty years old and don't see the point in bashing the young republican leaders, Jindal, Cantor, Palin or any others if the left is doing it already. Get a clue, Parker!!! You blow. Next time we may as well as put put Ann, Rush or heck even Chuck Norris.

no credibility
townhall, please send kp to daily kos. there is no excuse to let her pretend to be a conservative. she is an attack dog of the democratic party, and should do her character assasination from a liberal site.

Bobby
Nice article KP. Good to see you are presenting criticism in a better, more palatable
manner. Maybe the TH crowd will cut you some slack and read your work in a better light.
I pray they do.
Bobby is so very special..turn him loose!

the bear

Confusing intelligence with ability
The Democrats always made a big deal with Clinton about being a Rhodes Scholar - I really hope the Republicans do not follow suit and mix up the ability to spiel data with the strength courage ethics morals common sense logic leadership etc that we need in a president

yes...
You are correct! Like Palin, Jindal's handlers have ruined this guy. Where are the smart leaders that understand and are comfortable enough with their philosophy to just plain talk about it! Is that too much to ask?!

K-Lo GETS IT!!!
As always.

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!

Where?
Piyush went to Disneyland to confer with Minnie and Goofie and the rest of his shadow cabinet.

Bashing?
I don't think Parker was "bashing" Jindal at all like some of the comments here have said. I think she was saying that he gave a crummy speech (which he did) and she knows that he's way smarter than the impression he gave. As she said, when he appeared on TV the next morning "He dropped his "I'm-just-a-regular-guy" shtick and managed to articulate his conservative principles without putting the audience in mind of cookies and milk." I may not agree with Bobby Jindal on most things, but I'll admit he's a smart guy. Not like George W.

You all should listen to KP more. She's trying to save the Republican party.



Michael W of ME @ 07:47 wrote
about kookmews, "He has all the wit and charm of an unfinished basement".

I disagree with that, having actually lived in one home with a totally-unfinished basement (1973-1977 NW quadrant of Calgary), and another with a 75% unfinished one (1977-1993 also NW quadrant Calgary). The unfinished basement's charm and wit exceed those of kookmews by at least one order of magnitude.

I'd even venture that a vacant weed-infested lot has more charm and wit than kookmews.

;)

Bobby Jindal =
Parker wrote: "equal parts Mister Rogers, Bobby Brady and Kenneth the Page."

Actually, you missed the most obvious comparison: Jindal is Barney Fife from Mayberry.

"Well, gosh, what's got you so mad, sheriff??"

Jindal is stupid
Parker tries to blame Jindal's handlers.

Problem is: Jindal hired them and listened to them.

Ergo, Jindal is a moron.

Jindal must have Sarah Palin Syndrome
Well Kathleen, I can't say your column doesn't give me a good laugh from time to time. How can you be so sure Bobby Jindal isn't really a male Sarah Palin? Is it because you say you know him so he couldn't possibly be as stupid as Sarah Palin whom you've never actually met? The truth is, Bobby Jindal is a rising star in the Republican Party as is Sarah Palin.

Catholic bashing again?
He uses his BAPTISMAL NAME!! Many Catholic converts from other countries use their baptismal name. It's easier to deal with and reflects a very real part of their new identity. What's your bigotted problem with that anyway?

Of course Michael Azziz kept using "Tariq" even though he was BORN Catholic and he real name WAS Michael. Of course to rise in the Ba'Ath Party in Iraq you had to at least LOOK like a Muslim.

-Ray
NRA Life Member
Soli Deo Gloria!!

who is the real Obama
We don't know, because he never makes a speech w/out his teleprompter. Obama doesn't write his own speeches, either.

the real bobby Jindal - where was he?
I loved this article! I said the same thing – who is this – I was disgusted I lost respect for him. I really admired Jindal up to that speech – in the speech he sounded just like the rest of the repubs – and I was completely disgusted because I know this guy is smart. I have often said the same thing – I wish he and Obama – and a few others – like Bloomberg could be on the same team and really do some things. The problem with being a republican is you have to play to a stupid crowd that refuses to think – cannot reason and that enjoys being stupid and narrow – so if you are smart – they are suspicious of you. Mccain and Palin were great examples of that – the base was energized by them because they pushed the idea that it was enough to just “feel”American without knowing anything or caring about anything – and it was important to spout platitudes about God and refuse to learn how to live in the world or with other people peacefully. It’s a shame Jindal is a Republican – he is useless in that party. I wish the parties didn't exist with party lines - and Americans - of all races - that are bright could just work together and do what we need to do for our country to prosper and thrive. It is so sad the "conservatives" insist on being so dogmatic and hardline and unable to compromise or care about the greater good.

Parker is a liar
Parker wrote: "In fact, Jindal did not write his own speech"

You're a liar, Kathleen.

"Jindal said he wrote the speech himself."
From http://krla870.townhall.com/news/us/2009/03/03/gov_jindal_ defends_message_of_his_gop_speech

Thanks svpallava !

svpallava: MD Mar 2, 2009 - 2:31 PM EST

“I'd even venture that a vacant weed-infested lot has more charm and wit than kookmews.”

With all these LIBERAL pigeons flocking to Parker, it's always nice to see a fellow CONSERVATIVE Eagle swoop in and scatter them all to hell and gone!

Jindal, Palin and Steele may or may not drag the Republican Party into the 21st Century, but unless all the angry “White Men” and women (who listen to Rush) wake up and smell the coffee, the Liberal Democrats are going to take American down the porcelain convenience.

“Power without principle is barren, but principle without power is futile”

White House Web-pages: Unacceptable Change!

Abortion: http://www.whitehouse.gov/agenda/women/

The Family: http://www.whitehouse.gov/agenda/family/

Homosexuals: http://www.whitehouse.gov/agenda/civil_rights/

Column on Bobby Jindal
I read your column on Bobby Jindal in The Times of Shreveport, La. this a.m. (3/3/09). I didn't take it as a slam against him. I felt the same way when I saw him give his speech after the President's speech.
I wanted to scream (in fact, I did)at the T.V. screen "Who are you and what have you done with my governer!!" He sounded nothing like the Bobby Jindal we all(Louisianians)know and voted for.
Annie

"My dad would tell me,
'Bobby, Americans can do ANYTHING!"

This sounded like a dad reading his little child a bedtime story.

I think the problem is the same as what happened with Sarah Palin.

At first, my impression of her was a sharp, bright, articulate governor with poise. After her handlers were done 'positioning' her, however, she was a 'hockey mom' and a 'pit bull with lipstick.'

The truth is, in both cases, the Republican leadership thinks most of its members are backwards idiots, and thinks it has to go with this 'kitsch' masquerading as 'down home real folks.'

Read the quotes by Ronald Reagan that are posted all over the Internet, and dispense with the ill-conceived (and presumably) populist 'kitsch' that you think will rein all of us yokels in.

I have lots of suburban friends who are becoming embarrassed to say they are Republicans, and many of whom voted for Obama. I'll be the first to admit that they're 'not all that political,' but their votes would have been nice to have.

The Republican leadership thinks we're morons - and many of them are big-government types who simply do a little 'down home' posturing every four years ("Look at me roll up my sleeves and ladle out some soup at the local homeless shelter"), dishing out some inane populist drivel, and then get back to the business of expanding the government.
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