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Friday, June 27, 2008
Kathleen Parker :: Townhall.com Columnist
An Illegitimate Culture
by Kathleen Parker
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It was such a good story: Teen girls make pregnancy pact.

What?! No!! America's presses didn't exactly screech to a halt, but the media lapped up the story, with reporters descending on tiny Gloucester, Mass., from as far away as Brazil and Poland.

Teens making a pact to get pregnant enjoyed several news cycles not because it was so unbelievable, but because it was, alas, so believable.

And, because it's summer.

And the Democratic primaries are over.

Which is to say, we were due a sensational blockbuster with some sexual sizzle: Teen girls gone wild!

The salacious saga had all the elements we crave in a good yarn. Sex, teens, politics, illegitimacy -- and then some. There was even a homeless sperm donor, presumably seduced by one of the girls in order to join her chums in Labor & Delivery.

Except it wasn't quite true. There are apparently 17 (maybe) pregnant girls in Gloucester High School -- which would be four times the usual pregnancy rate -- but officials now say the pact was post-preggo rather than a conspiracy to become pregnant.

Or was it? As waistlines thicken, so goes the plot.

The original story, broken by Time magazine, was based on comments by the school principal, who said the recent spike in teen pregnancies was the result of a pact among some of the girls. The principal has now been overruled, both by the town's mayor and by the mothers-to-be, some of whom are enjoying a very short date with fame.

Pregnant Lindsey Oliver, 17, who appeared on "Good Morning America" with her baby's father, Andrew Psalidas, 20, said the girls became pregnant by coincidence, after which they agreed to help each other out.

The couple said they hadn't intended to have a child and were simply unlucky. Now, they're just trying to do the right thing. Why all the fuss?

Teenagers getting pregnant is, indeed, less interesting without a conspiracy. How the pact story got started is unclear. The principal is taking a timely vacation and has offered no further comment. Confirming the pregnancies, meanwhile, has proved problematic owing to privacy concerns.

Without the pact, we're merely left with the crude banality of several babies about to be born to children and a few dozen dangling questions unanswered.

Here's one: Where's Dad? Not the "fathers" of these unfortunate pre-borns, but the fathers of these pregnant girls. Where, in other words, is the shotgun?

Back in the day when birth control and abortion weren't readily available to high school kids, fathers were pretty good deterrents to pregnancy. Boys knew they'd have kneecap problems if they got daddy's little girl pregnant. If they were lucky, they'd be married by the morning after.

Girls, meanwhile, were less likely to risk pregnancy because alternatives to motherhood were few, adoption being the most likely.

It wasn't a foolproof system, clearly, but the specter of lifelong consequences, combined with societal and parental disapproval, helped keep the illegitimate birthrate down.

Today, using the term "illegitimate" is more likely to spark disapproval than the activities contributing to the plague of unwed pregnancies. For sure there are far fewer fathers around to give young males The Eye. It is a fair guess, though not possible to confirm at this point, that at least some of Gloucester's pregnant daughters are from fatherless homes.

That guess is founded on sound social science indicating a strong correlation between father absence and a high risk for early sex and unwed pregnancy. Not only do fathers provide the masculine affection so many girls seek elsewhere, but they teach their daughters how to handle male sexual aggression, as well as to understand their own role in stimulating that aggression.

Thus far, there's been little mention of the family dynamic that often foretells the tragedy of children having children. Instead, most of the debate has centered on whether these girls and boys had enough access to sex education and contraceptives.

Other conversations have circled around the influence of movies, such as "Juno," that glamorize teen pregnancy. In the movie, 16-year-old Juno is adorably pregnant and far wiser than the film's adults.

Whatever happened in Gloucester, we know this much. Today's girls and boys daily marinate in a culture that offers little instruction in responsibility and self-control -- or the importance of marriage as antecedent to procreation -- but celebrates single motherhood and encourages sex without strings.

The surprise isn't that 17 girls are pregnant at one high school. The surprise is that there aren't more.

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DENY THEM WELFARE
Here's an idea. Let's pass a new law. You get welfare for ONE illegitimate kid. After ONE, you're on you're own.

We'll see the illegitimate birth rate cut in half in a year. Guaranteed.

Public Schools Again
Ann: I heard Bill O state that this is another flaw in the public school system. Schools fail to hold these girls responsible. How true this statement is. Once again the failure of public education hurts all of us. Obama thinks it's OK. I never heard him say it, but we know it to be true. Same with Johnny Mac: I never heard him say anything, but we know he disapproves-especially after having fathered an illegitimate African-American baby himself- 2000 campaing+_we know it is true if Karl Rove made it public-he is the only honest man if America. remember Kathleen, John Kerry went snowboarding while "W" was helping America. Just another example of how the Repubicans have honor and the Dems want to give the country to a foreign nation to make themselves "feel" good.

Counter culture
The problem of teen pregnancy will get much worse, not because of some ineffable force behind moral decline, but for the simple reason that the government is increasingly incentivizing this behavior.

The absolute worst strategy to deal with this problem was the implementation of laws and devices to hold the father pecuniarily liable and responsible for the child. That may sound counterintuitive, and certainly not emotionally satisfying, but when those policies were implemented, a massive incentive was created for the girl to get pregnant, and virtually all incentive to refrain from doing so was removed. Why would the archetypal amoral trashy teen, whose ambition in life is to steal someone's "man" by means of having his baby, NOT try to get pregnant when she thinks he will be forced by law to be her host organism for the indefinite future?

Not only should we removed welfare, but we should roll back the laws such as withholding child support from the father's paycheck, denying him a driver's license, and sending him to jail if he fails to provide the court-appointed loot. Not only is it a violation of his rights, but it incentivizes flight, criminal behavior, and laziness. Ultimately, no one is better off, and everyone is worse off.

Our culture should be such that teens have no doubt in their minds that things will end up very badly for them if they happen to get pregnant.

Love Child
Diana Ross' old tune Love Child has a real quaint sound to it these days. Seems like over 70% of ghetto children are now Love Childs!

The idea which has gained wide acceptenance, that children being raised by a single parent is no big deal, must mean that most people are unaware of the direct relationship between a successful adulthood and being raised by an intact family?

Many if not most of society's problems including crime, drugs, welfare dependency, homelessness, STDs, school dropouts etc. can find their roots in single parent home. If we don't put two parent families first in this society God help us all!

You have not only harmed yourself and child by being an unwed mother but you have harmed society and the nation by your actions. This is the reason that society should do all in its power to discourage this behavior.


Rowly
When I was in high school, if you were too short, too tall, too zitty, too stupid, too smart, unathletic, fat, foreign, a member of a religion other than mainstream Catholicism or Protestantism, if your voice was too high or too low, or if your parents were hippies, you were sure to be beaten at some point and then studiously avoided. Pregnant girls were spared the beatings, but were completely ostracized just like any other nonconforming kid. I'm guessing you were one of the ones deciding who got ostracized.

Modesty & Self Control
is not enough....

this entire country has become a welfare state and "impregnanted" generations to thinking that someone else is gonna pick up the pieces and pay the tab...well enough is enough...
the entire burden should be on them...let the parents have to pay for the nurseries...why should I?

don't be fooled into thinking these girls will go on to become productive citizens...the reality of raising a child correctly is to be there at all times...of the day and of the night....leaving no time for living a life for themselves...nevermind continuing their educations.

Pregnancy In High Schools
If young girls had more modesty and young boys learned more self control,this would not be the problem it is today.

The liberals going way back to the feminist movement and the sexual revolution made it acceptable to run around half naked and entice young boys.

With hormones raging and every entertainment venue pushing sex,sex,sex, what can be expected?

If a girl finds herself pregnant in high school,she should be taken out and put into an alternative school.

We have alternative schools for behaviorial problem children. If this is not misbehavior,what is?

One high school in my area is said to have ten girls who are pregnant and still in school.

When I was in high school,if a girl got pregnant,she would be shamed and ashamed and would have never thought about staying in school until she had her baby.


goatlocker
I wouldn't deny that I was a horny kid. But I was also a bored kid. As soon as I would take an interest in something, my dad would find a pretext for taking that thing away. Most teenagers are horny, but not all of them have sex. I had sex because the opportunity cost was not very great, and because I needed something that was mine-all-mine.

Lily #7 & nurseries
it just makes it easier.

I grew up very poor, no love between mom & pop who were uneducated, no prospects, no tv filling my head with garbage and lies, desparate to escape (PrimaVolta #21), yet I saw my mother who bore my brother when I was 10 and KNEW that I did not want to get "stuck" that way....

and back then in the 50's, there were no readily available alternatives..& less teen pregnancies.

"Supporting" the end results becomes a burden for us all.

I'm not sure what the answer is...I can only tell you what I told my sons...if they got a girl pregnant, I would force them to quit school and go to work to help support her and the child...I made sure they understood their lives would be miserable....

both did not sire any children.


To Offshore
Let's see now. You don't want a nursery in a high school because that encourges girls to get pregnant. You don't want contraceptives provided to kids because that encourages kids to have sex. You don't want abortion to be available at all-at all. As near as I can figure out, that means that girls getting pregnant will have to carry to term, give birth, and be stuck with a baby and no child care program that will help the girls stay in school and graduate. Having no high school diploma is a recipe for being low-income and requiring public assistance. But we know from many townhall posts that conservatives oppose public assistance programs. So make up your mind: do you want these girls to be productive in society, or a drag on society? Anything that helps them stay in school so they can work afterwards ought to be a plus in Republican eyes. Picture #1: girl in 12th grade learning Cosmetology so she can get licensed to work as a beautician; baby down the hall in nursery. Picture #2: girl at home watching soap operas; baby in her lap. Which picture makes sense?

Questions
As of yesterday 6-27, the mayor of Gloucester says the story about the group pregnancy isn't true---but the school principal still insists it is true. So it seems premature for Parker to come down on one side or the other. But I do ask myself two questions: 1) Who would be closer to the girls to know what was going on in the school---the principal or the mayor? and 2) Who would be more concerned for the town's reputation---the principal or the mayor? And what in the world does Parker mean when she says the principal was "overruled" by the mayor? If I say today is Saturday and you "overrule" me, does that change today to Thursday?

Prima Re-Volt
Quite the dimestore psychologist you are. But do your liberal friends know how judgmental you are? Oh wait...I forgot - it's okay to be judgmental, as long as its only directed at conservative christians.

Interesting how you use your personal story as reason to blame your parents for your own teenage sexcapades, while implying that Kathleen is stupid for doing the same thing.

Could it be that you were just an impertinent, selfish, horny, impulsive fool?

The drive to procreate is strong; especially for teenagers. But we can probably all agree that it's a good idea for teenagers to abstain from sex. And it's preferable to have both parents active in their children's lives - even religious conservative parents.

No?

Community Centers
June 28, 2008

The neighborhood that I grew up in, The Upper West Side of Manhattan during the 1950's was an explosive tinderbox, especially when the kids went up up on the roof and discovered their feelings. We stayed out of trouble because the City of New York opened schools and other public properties which served the young people, replete with giant labidos, all dressed up with no place to go and a Walter Mitty lack of horsesense laced with an unrealistic feeling of invincibilty the opportunity to avail themselves as a group with Community Centers. Let's look into this,the kids get into trouble when they roam.

commonsenseunlimited

odd use of statistics
This column would make a lot more sense if teen pregnancies were actually higher than have been historically. While it is true that because people used to marry very young, illegitimate teen pregnancy is higher, this idea that people used to have sex later because of the authoritative eye of daddy is fiction.

The number of teen pregnancies in Gloucester appears to be small enough that coincidence could explain a one year blip.

If broad social factors or the movie Juno was responsible we would not expect to see the phenomenon just at Gloucester.

It is true that teen pregnancy, which had been falling steadily since the '90s has leveled off according to the latest report. But given that this has not been accompanied by a reported increase in teen sex, it is possible that increased use of abstinence only education with its disinformation about birth control could explain that. Increases in poverty rates also tends to lead to such things. So I think it is a bit premature to blame Juno.

Don't worry about MercMerc,
he's old like me, actually a bit older, and racing pell mell toward dementia. Keep fightin' MercMerc, and, by all means keep your Hitler memorabilia updated.

Enough with the smug regurgitation
of conservative rhetoric. Teenage girls have sex and get pregnant because their daddies aren't around to lay down the law? Really? Is that all there is to it? I'll just throw this out there: I had sex when I was 14. My dad was around. My parents loved me, and they were card carrying members of the Christian right. We weren't poor, but shabbily suburban. I got punished a lot, but not for failing to meet their high expectations. I was not expected to get good grades or make something of myself. I was not even expected to be especially clean or polite. The only expectation my parents had of me is that I would believe everything they believed, and respect my father's authority. I didn't, so I was always punished. Naturally I was desperate to escape, but I didn't know of the opportunities that existed for people like me. So I escaped into a world of romantic fantasy. When boys came along who seemed to identify with this fantasy, we escaped together. This is what we called love, and it never lasted long before it started devolving into the sadomasochistic patterns we had learned from our families. I repeat that my family was and is about as "traditional" as they come. This did not stop me from having sex at a young age, just as it did not stop my parents from responding very inadequately to my and my siblings' needs. I forgive them now because I see that they were using religion to supplement their own impoverished sense of themselves. They wanted love and acceptance just like I did. They turned to the fantasy of religion; my brothers and I turned to sex and drugs. The point is, it's not for the lack of a father that kids have sex early in life. It's loneliness, poverty, and a sense of entrapment.

MRCMRC
I can't tell if your writing on this and several other subjects is a sore attempt at satire or revelation of your lack of morals and integrity. Your lack of use of proper grammar, spelling, and punctuation is frustrating to even the most basic reader.
Would your argument hold more water, per se, if everyone were issued guns at birth and taught the proper use and handling of such a weapon? Later, around the time of puberty, everyone gets issued ammunition. So, since people are going to go around shooting their weapon irresponsibly, we make bullet proof vests readily available to anyone who wants one.
So, in your blog, you assume less people will be shot if people are educated in the use of weapons and if bullet-proof vests are readily available. Your added thought that teaching people RESPECT of themselves and each other and to keep their guns holstered will produce more accidental shootings is simply absurd.
I am glad you do not let pesky things like facts and truths cloud your judgement.

just a part of it
I listened to Chris Cuomo interview one of the couples and I wanted to throw up. Not only because of Cuomo's gushing over this event, but the two young people's incredible stupidity as if this isn't a big deal in a VERY negative way.
There are MANY factors at work here, not just about the gender of parents but also how gender and orientation are DISTORTED and how accountability, patience and gratificaion are also.

Young people, for the most part, are NOT patient. They are also not given much satisfying alternatives to their passions or truth and honesty without hypocrisy from the adults around them.
Parents, themselves fearful or ignorant get hysterical over certain subjects that schools are obligated to inform on.
And religious belief isn't a consistent or realistic teaching tool either.

Once the gender and orientation biases are dealt with, as well as satisfying alternatives and relationship instructions can anticipate and address all the issues of sex, love and isolation, we'll get more teen pregnancy, gay kids at risk for HIV and less respect for marriage and it's intentions.

Once Upon a Time
I am so glad I grew up when I did (Leave it to Beaver, Father Knows Best), when we weren't taxed to the hilt to pay for everyone else's screwed up lives.

Now, at retirement age, I have to go back to work cuz I can't afford, actually really struggling, to pay my own bills cuz I have to help support incompetent, dysfunctional idiots.

I was a responsible parent and taught my kids to be responsible...I had only 2 because that's all my husband and I could afford to raise. Both are not married and have no children cuz they can't afford to bear/raise children....and I am soooo greatful to God that there are no grandchildren going to these schools to be taught to be irresponsible.

what the heck...

so, a few of my friends, also older, who are also having difficulties paying their bills, are talking seriously about quitting our jobs, and going on welfare...

why should we, anyone, pay for others' mistakes?

I'm sure you've heard the saying, "make your own bed and sleep in it."


What???
"...girls became pregnant by coincidence..."
That is an insane statement.

MRCMRC..."one reading this would almost think that you are accusing the fathers of the girls of incest. i certainly hope not."

You did write that...

A burger and a side of sex, please.
Seems to me that this is just another case of something that should be cherished and revered, the various acts of sexual interaction, being devalued to the level of banal recreation or simply “that’s what you do” when with others you feel strongly about.

@MRCMRC
I hesitate to write this, because I have seen your reaction to threads such as mine elsewhere, but I must ask you something.

Where within the article did you draw the conclusion you came to? You state that your conclusion was that the article could be interpreted as claiming the fathers are guilty of incest - exactly what words or phrases within the article lead you to make that assumption? I read it casually (not necessarily carefully), and I cannot see even the slightest bit of evidence for your statement anywhere on the page until your own original post. There's nothing in the article that would even begin to drive me to the conclusion you make, let alone the one that seems to be getting drawn off of that.

Again, where in the article did you see something that could possibly lead you to even briefly consider that the conclusion you drew had merit?

Reading through the article ...
the thought of fathers and incest NEVER came to mind. Not until I read your idiotic post did I think of it and then the head scratching began: "What the He}} article did that idiot read." I stand by my earlier comment, you're a lunatic. And probably a pedophile if you can glean incest from this article.

Baby Borrowers
Maybe that new TV show The Baby Borrowers where teenagers get to be "parents" with babies on loan will help to lower pregnacy rates.

Or it just might increase abortion rates (convienience abortions being at 93%).

At least these girls chose to give life to their babies. Imagine if they had made an abortion pact. Somebody would probably hand them a medal.


MRCMRC
"one reading this would almost think that you are accusing the fathers of the girls of incest. i certainly hope not."
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Did you read the same article as the rest of us or are you getting two different threads confused?

frog pay attention
never came close to saying what you say i did. you saw he words incest and father and immediately put them to=gether in a way thatproved exactly what i said was true about the article what i said was that unless one read it casrefully one could almost infer the relationship existed just by reading the article. the writng made it so not the authors beliefs.

The cycle continues
Not only where are the fathers of these pregnant girls, but the fathers of these babies about to be born.


As usual, AudiR10
has it right on the money. I confess I dread reading most posts, but Audi, baby, yours I look forward to like morning coffee.

Our culture celebrates illegitimacy. When was the last time you read an article that even mentioned that gorgeous Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie aren't married? And we're not supposed to care, because they saved half their brood from foreign orphanages.

Great, but why not make a commitment to the children that you will stay together?

Look at the archives of People Magazine. How many actresses in the past 10 years have been pregnant BEFORE marrying the baby's father - if they married at all? If you're like most Americans, you can probably name ten - or twenty. If you're an avid star-watcher, you can probably name fifty.

Now - name ten starlets who gave birth to their first child MORE than 10 months after marrying?

(crickets chirping)

Hollywood will be the downfall of our country, which is why I keep my kids away from as much of what they produce as possible.

70% of black children are now born out of wedlock. When the illegitimacy rate reaches that level among whites, you can kiss the d@mn country goodbye.

Better thank your lucky stars that the Supreme Court upheld the Second Amendment's right to bear arms. We're going to need them.

Going to Hell in a Handbasket
Ah, yes, that all important question: Where are the fathers? Of course, the liberal media is focusing on "more contraception and sex ed," while ducking, dodging and deflecting from the real culprit: the breakdown of the two-parent family, accentuated by fatherlessness. Why? Because liberal, pro-feminist (read: anti-male) policies and the gutless politicos who pushed them through, as well as personal and parental irresponsibility, are primarily to blame for this mess.

AudiR10
Good points all. Maybe "sex education" needs to be a little less about sex and a little more about what raising a child actually involves.

What will happen, of course, is that the job will get pushed off either on Grandpa & Grandma, or on all of us taxpayers.


Stop glorifying pregnancy
If the girls whose sole literature is People and Us Magazine didnt see some wealthy single actress with her Baby Bump on the cover of every issue, and if anybody bothered to tell that girl that unlike Miss Superstar, SHE is not going to have anybody in her 28 room mansion to take the new toy out of sight and out of mind while she goes back to her regularly scheduled life ... if her mother would have a frank talk with her about the consequences of HER decision to have a child out of wedlock ...

Nah. Mom is out there trolling for another boyfriend and trying to convince daughters friends she is Hot, and Dad is out impregnating his latest Squeeze or sending post cards from Fiji signed Love Dada and Bambi.

Reality will bring these girls down to earth when they are sitting alone at 4:00 a.m. listening to their baby scream and thinking of their friends out partying. Too bad they wont go around and explain reality to their friends.

Gee whiz, Wally
Fortunately, "Leave it to Beaver" isn't around placing Ward And June Cleaver in the unenviable position of fumbling to explain the GHS phenomenon to Beaver. Actually, Ward would need to sit with Wally a bit so the young lad's head didn't spin around in shock and bewilderment.

Afterall, Wally would have to explain things in more detail to that curious Beaver. Holy Mother of God, Beaver would suffer an identity crisis--he'd have to change his name when Wally finished translating slang for him.

Poor Beaver, what new name would he choose ? I guess being robbed of his innocence he'd have to fall back on his given name. That show would have been a tear-jerker--though not because the feminists and liberals boycotted "Leave it to Beaver". I imagine Wally and Beaver would express outrage--hell, they might even cuss. We'd have to cheer when the bad words came out.

You can be sure neither Wally nor Beaver fathered these children. I don't think Dennis the Menice would either--Margaret is still around to keep him in line.

We are so Enlightened and hip---the French must be hating us less this week.

You're right, fan, we can count on ...
Ms. Parker to be clear, concise, and spot on, time after time. However, MRCMRC is another of crazed lunatics who appears to have comprehension problems. How he/she/it ever gleaned father/daughter incest had to be more projection than anything else. I'm disgusted that I even slowed down to read that post. I want that 20 seconds back!

nursery
I have seen the pre-school nursery at GHS. It is nice. A wonderful and loving incentive for children to have children. The nursery is one of the first things one sees upon entering the school... every morning, morning after morning. Warm, embracing, loving, inviting.

We reap what we sow.

Note to liberals: I have no problem with good nurseries. Just not at the front door of a high school!

Finally, some sanity about this story
Thank you, Kathleen. The reactions to the Glochester pregnancies is beyond belief. These girls were "driven" to pregnancy because they needed the attention and "love" of a male. All the contraception and "sex ed" in the world would have done nothing to stop them. In fact, when "sex ed" reigned sexual activity and teen pregnancies went up. Why? because the goal is not to teach girls (and boys!!) self-worth and how to reach their potential.....but how to have sex without babies ... and where to go when "accidents" happen. Our children are having to raise themselves, the parents are AWOL and community leaders are lemmings.

really
one reading this would almost think that you are accusing the fathers of the girls of incest. i certainly hope not. and a delicious wxample of addition by subtraction. providing these girls with more contraceptives and birth control informationm would have probably increased the number of pregnant girls. carry this delightful piece of logic to an conclusion and you get, if you gave every parrtici[pant in this mess contaceptives and gave ever participany complete information about sex and pregnancy , you would have nearly 100 per cent of the girls who became pregnant . the more contraceptives the more pregnancy , and it htis is true then the converse must also be true. the less information about sex and the fewer conrtraceptives. the fewer pregnancies theres the answer . stop porducing contraceptives for teen agers.this will immediately cut the teen birth rate down so low that it will be insigbificant.good old conservative logic.
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