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Friday, April 25, 2008
Kathleen Parker :: Townhall.com Columnist
White Males Aren't Feeling the Love
by Kathleen Parker
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In the days leading up to Pennsylvania's primary, white males -- those knuckle-dragging, chaw-chompin', beer-swillin' bitter troglodytes -- were suddenly the debutante's delight.

How were the Democrats to woo these crucial swing voters, known in other circles as the Republican Party base?

Political commentators' brains grew new crevices as they pondered the imponderable: Would white males go for the woman or the black? Or as Nora Ephron more pointedly posed the question: Whom do white men hate more -- women or blacks?

By Ephron's calculus, if a white male votes for a black man, it couldn't possibly be because he finds the man a more suitable candidate. He simply hates women more.

And if he votes for the woman, he's probably got his nutty uncle's white-sheet ensemble stashed upstairs in an attic trunk just in case cross burning enjoys a revival. He couldn't possibly deem any woman superior to any man. He simply hates blacks more.

Are all white males really so monolithically repugnant and predictable?

Race and gender do matter, of course. They enter into the human equations to varying degrees, subconsciously if not consciously, in any transaction. We have certain expectations and are all guilty of stereotyping, much as we insist otherwise. It's nature, and it's not always wrong.

To what extent race and gender matter in elections, we're only now beginning to find out. A year ago, a Washington Post-ABC News poll found that voters were less concerned about race and gender than they were about age. While 58 percent said they'd be less likely to vote for a candidate older than 72, only 13 percent said they'd be less likely to support a woman, and just 6 percent felt less inclined to vote for a black candidate.

In Pennsylvania on Tuesday, exit polls found 19 percent of Democrats saying that the race of a candidate played a role in their vote. But what does that mean? That it matters a little or a lot -- or that race is a deal-breaker?

Clinton beat Obama by a 10-point margin in part because of WECM -- white ethnic Catholic men.

Pollster John Zogby says that WECM, who tend to be conservative, weren't sure they were going to vote at all. And though they didn't particularly like Clinton, they weren't going to vote for Obama.

Are ethnic Catholics necessarily racist? Or were they responding to something else when they voted against Obama? Perhaps his more liberal voting record? Or, just possibly, recent comments that were perceived as insulting and out of touch?

In fact, the groups that favored Clinton over Obama included people 45 and over, working-class and union folks, as well as voters in the suburbs, small towns and in rural areas -- those embittered Americans Obama recently described as clinging to their guns and religion out of frustration. Also among those Obama lost to Clinton were weekly churchgoers and, yes, gun owners -- by 63 percent to 37 percent.

So, yes, some percentage of Americans (or Turks or Greeks or Swedes) will always take race and gender into consideration at the polls. But Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama may not provide a clear picture as to how those issues play out in politics. Each brings too many confounding factors that distort the picture.

Clinton isn't just any woman, needless to say. People like and dislike her often for the same reason -- because she's the wife of Bill. In either case, it's not only that she's A Woman, but that she's That Particular Woman.

And Obama isn't just any black man. Those who like or dislike him don't necessarily base those opinions on his skin color or ethnic heritage, except to the extent that they are tied to differences that are also cultural.

Clinton may not be Everywoman, no matter how unflinchingly she downs a tumbler of Crown Royal. But she is a more familiar entity than someone like Obama, who, having grown up in Hawaii and Indonesia, doesn't share the life experiences of the groups that voted against him on Tuesday.

Do they "hate" blacks, as the Ephron School insists? Or do they prefer a familiar individual who sees the world essentially as they do? Are white males misogynistic and racist? Or are they weary of being the only group in America that is fair game for contempt, insult and blame?

Bottom line: It's hard to woo people you don't really love.

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Riots
Beginning about midnight November 4, 2008. "He lost because of white racists." You heard it here first.

3wire
It's comments like yours that prove racism is still thriving.

You heard it here first.

Enough already!
I say let's be done with all the senseless polling and voting and all the media hoopla. Let's settle this thing the good old-fashioned way, let's thrust these two dogs into the octagon and watch while Hitlery does a little ground and pound on Mr. Namby-Pamby!!

Excellent Column Kathleen.....
Your "bottom line" sums it all up....
"It's hard to woo people you don't really love."

matthew
I suppose telling the truth can get you branded a racist!

saltydog
You predict riots as well? Really?

Are race/sex the only options?
If I vote for Hillary, it's because I hate Obama's skin color, and surely not his lack of experience or any evidence of leadership, his repugnant voting record, his supercilious personality, his calculated non-votes, his shady, racist, and overtly socialist associates?

If I vote for Obama, it's because I hate women, not because I hate Hillary's blatant dishonesty, her foul temper and poor judgment, her bald and limitless ambition, and utter disregard and contempt for those she believes she has a right to rule?

It's a strange world the Democrats inhabit.

Unwinnable argument
If Obama loses, it of course will be blamed on white racism. It's part of the culture. Don't forget that white men are to blame for all the problems in the black culture such as getting young single black women pregnant again and again, forcing them to use illegal drugs, forcing them not to finish high school and become gainfully employed, forcing blacks to commit disproportionate amounts of violent crime.
We may as well call black urban culture "Vampire culture": When assigning blame, there are no mirrors allowed.

Hey Matthew,
Saltydog isn't the first one to predict riots. The MSM has stated similiar outcomes, not saying riots per se but predicting problems in the black community. A number of 'black leaders', the most vocal so far being Al Sharpton, have as much as guaranteed 'a backlash'. What do you think 'a backlash' would be? I can guess. It's not racist to use the recent past to predict the future.

whew
white males -- those knuckle-dragging, chaw-chompin', beer-swillin' bitter troglodytes --


For a second there I thought I was in that bunch.
It's a good thing I'm in the Knuckle-dragging, cigar smoking, scotch- swillin' ( single malt ), bitter troglodytes crowd.
On the lighter side I would probably vote for Hillary if she was more like Ann Coulter. I could also vote for Obama if he was a leader of men, for example, commanded troops in the field large or small unit or ran a business small or large. Thats just me, the Knuckle-dragging, cigar smoking, scotch- swillin' ( single malt ), bitter troglodyte .

We don't hate anyone. Really.

Why would we hate anyone?

We are the most confident, successful, powerful and capable group of mortals ever to have walked the earth.

Weak people hate those who are stronger. Cowards hate the brave. The lazy hate the provident. Greedy people hate those who give willingly and selflessly.

We are strong enough to love those weaker than ourselves.

We acknowledge that God is ultimately in charge and so we bravely execute the orders we are given, trusting in Him that righteousness will prevail -- and it always does.

We work hard and give selflessly in caring for our families and those less forunate in our communities.

We get what we want, when we want it and how we want it. But we do so humbly, never forgeting the source of our blessings and bounty.

We love our God, our women, our children and our country and we are the only group who readily and routinely give up our lives in defense of those we love.

We destroy enemies who threaten us or those we love without hesitation, mercy or regret.

But we don't hate anyone.

What?
How could you write this article and not mention how black men voted?

matthew
If you think there aren't going to be riots, tell us why you think so. Don't just make snide remarks.

And if you think there are going to be riots, then why is someone else's also believing this an instance of racism on their part, but not on yours?

Nice article ..
Ms. Parker's piece is well done. The political "elites" who want to pidgeon-hole the electorate based on things like sex and race are the real troglodytes. Knuckle-draggers like me will continue to dismiss politicos who can't bring themselves to have an honest intellectual discussion about core beliefs and objectives. When was the last time you heard a politico take the 112 words of the Declaration of Independence that begin "We hold these truths to be self-evident" and use it for more than a bumper sticker? A challenge to anyone running for public office in this country: take that passage *in its entirety*, tell us in detail what it means to you, its relevance in this time, the degree to which you agree with it. Then I will decide if listening to you is not a complete waste of time.

"play that funky music, white boy"
Ephron's question(whom do white males hate more...blacks or women?)demonstrates that she herself has an abundance of that very quality she finds so offensive in others.

We evil blue-eyed white devils don't have alot to choose from on the political front. No one is out there making a pitch for our vote.

We seem to be about the only folks the diversity gurus have yet to designate a "victim group".

You know your group has hit the big-time when it gets that designation.

Until that time, I guess we will just cling to our religion and our guns.

And 4 wheel drive pick up trucks, of course.

Mine's the 5.7 liter Tundra, but each evil white devil gets his own choice of pick up. White devils at least get to do that, even if there ain't alot to choose from on the political front.

After all, white devils did play a not-so-insignificent role in the creation of our Beloved Republic, including the freedoms and abundance of material goods with which it is blessed.

We deserve to at least have a choice in trucks.

Careful be
People who revile white males may find themselves embroiled in some kind of self fulfilling reverse prophesy. I, for one am pretty tired of it.

BAD MOON RISING

I see the bad moon arising
I see trouble on the way
I see earthquakes and lightning
I see bad times today

.....There does not seem to be a satifactory outcome for the upcoming election ...Obama is either going to lose the nomination or the General election ...either way, Blacks are going to be resentful and upset ...disturbances sure, riots maybe! ...

.....Obama's loss will be blamed on White racism ...count on it! ...but expect a backlash from white males who are fed up with being called racists and are not willing to take it anymore ...this racial cyst is about to get lanced and it won't be pretty .....COLOSSUS

Kathleen
Most of your "Query" is idiotic.But,young "White" males don't carry any baggage.While the older "White" males do.Just think 24% of the Whites in Pennsylvania said, that they could never vote for an "African-American".That sounds like a question,only those over 50 would recognize.In the end the "White" male means no more than any other group.If America fails we "ALL" fail,no color or gender will matter then!!!Pull your "PANTIES" up boys,it's morning in AMERICA.

knuckle-dragging, beer-swillin, bitter..
When Ninety seven percent of black men voting in the Pennsylvania primary voted for Barrack Obama; that is called identity politics. The fifty five percent of white men who voted for Hillary Clinton are called knuckle-dragging, chaw-chompin',beer-swillin' bitter troglodytes. Of course, the Forty five percent white men who voted for Barrack Obama are educated, forward looking and post racial. So much for the media and talking head analysis.

White Males Aren't Feeling the Love
Miss Parker, I disagree with your opinion that white working class males won't vote for a black man or a female. As a Republican, and a man, I've always looked for the best candidate, a.k.a., the one that has the closest opinion to mine. Sometimes that candidate happens to be a democrat. When Bob Casey Sr. ran for governor of Pa., I voted for him. He was the best candidate for the job. If I believed Barack Obama or Hilary Clinton was the right candidate for the job, I would vote for one of them. Think about this, there are so many candidates out there that would be better as President; Christine Todd Witman, Condileeza Rice, Elizabeth Dole come to mind on the female side. On the male side, J.C. Watts comes to mind. I've long been an admirer of his. You're assuming men have not evolved into an entity that can't see past a football field or a baseball diamond. Its a bad assumption to make.

Amelia is right on target
Her post pretty well sums it up. 97% of the black males in Penn. voted for Obama. Are they then racist? I give the American people more credit for having the good sense to vote period. Thats one of the freedoms we do have left after all the liberal whining years of telling us everthing from we have to stop smoking and wear our seat belts, to Hillarys telling us what doctor we will go to and when. Thomas Jefferson said, " A government big enough to give you everything is also big enough to take all you have." White males will deside this election, they always have and for now they will continue. All the talk about the youth support for Obama will play out as those folks like to make noise, but they dont vote as a rule. White men vote, and they are a bit tired of being told they are racist, homofobes, gun carring, bigots, when they are just for the most part honest hard working, family men, grandfathers, and fathers who VOTE..

racism
Racism is alive and well in the USofA.

In fact, it's rampant.

Among blacks.

And democrats/liberals.

A true conservative is not, and can not be a racist.

Obama, Farrakhan, Sharpton, Jackson, Mckinney, Wright. All racists.

Can anyone name 5 white public figures who are provable racists?

I'll give you a head start....Hillary, Robt. Byrd.....theres 2.

Oh, wow....notice they're both democrats?

I can count on 1 hand the number of whites i've known who are racist. (unfortunately, 2 of those are family members)

Also, i can count on 1 hand the number of blacks i've known who weren't racist.

In this race for POTUS, skin color &/or gender aren't the issues.

Lack of experience and the socialist/marxist beliefs of the 2 dem contenders are.

annoy a liberal...support yourself

Another Whte male
It is well established that white males are racist, lazy, narrow minded and above all--stupid. Just watch any TV commercial.

My question--given the generally worthless nature of this bunch, how is that they are in charge?

Mathew
Ipredict this:
If he wins -there will be riots
If he loses-there will be riots
you heard it here first

White males have feelings too>>>>>>>
Jbird: you posted blacks, your wrong it is AFRICAN-americans

White European males built this nation with their crowmagnium like hands and arms and Brains.
Free Black men soon joined in, like Carver, Cole, Baraka, Hansberry, Marshall and King, we grew in stature.

Now we have the AFRICAN-american males of the like said, Sharpton, Jackson, Heuy Newton, Eldredge Cleaver, Farrakan, Malcolm X and of coarse Obama.

AFRICAN-americans are not for America or the people of America, they only want AFRICAN rule over European Americans of White decent.
But this also includes Hispanics, Asians, Latins, Hawaiians, Indians and anyone that is not AFRICAN BLACK-americans. So Black America watch your back also, they will steal all that you have worked, yes WORKED for.

Killer
Trenchant- very trenchant- oh-what the hell did you say?
Not just silly -but obtuse as well - ughhh!!

rpm
I hope you are not basing your opinion exclusively on TV advertisements because I have seen "black" adds and they do not seem any more intelligent. Advertising agencies tend to treat all of us like idiots.

Another Whte male????
rpm writes: Friday, April, 25, 2008 11:19 AM
Another Whte male
It is well established that white males are racist, lazy, narrow minded and above all--stupid. Just watch any TV commercial.

My question--given the generally worthless nature of this bunch, how is that they are in charge?

********************************************
LOL I never laughed so hard in my life rpm. Your very picture of `white' (not whte) Americans is a reflection on the stereo typical vission of racists every where.

Men of colour, I am Flesh tone not White, North Europeans, South Europeans, North African Bedouins and Egyptians, Balkans, Greeks, Turks, Spaniards, Arabs, Russians, Asians, Indo-Asians, Indians, Jews and Blacks are all hard working peoples.

However AFRICAN-americans and `whte trash' are as you discribed. I assume that rpm stands for something besides revs/per/min. Or can't you figure that out.
Men rule others because we are smarter and create that which you use and distroy. You are the lame, weak and useless in society.

JD's Handsome Son
Yes, the most advanced nations tend to be governed by whites. But I really do not think we can attribute that to any natural superiority. I primarily it has to do with luck and geography.

The Mongolians were not "white" and they nearly conquered the whole of Europe, before their culture collapsed from within. Are Chinese white? No, but they had empires that lasted many centuries. Then there was the Persian Empire, consisting of many races and cultures.

Ultimately we are all flawed and imperfect. We white folks hardly have a monopoly on longevity with regards to our segments of civilization.

I guess what I am saying is this: I am not refuting your statement because it is "racist" I am refuting it because I find it to be a nonsequitur. "White nations today are the most advanced...hence whites are superior" That is a radical leap, that-based on historical evidence-does not hold up to close examination.

Good posts by
Fighting Lunacy, jerabaub, and jbird.

CALIFSON couldn't be more right.

It sucks to provide and still be the hated one. I'm really being tired of the riders calling me lazy when I'm the one who paid for the wagon and I'm the one pushing it as well.

Racism is alive and well all right.

Yes, but here are restrictions
"We deserve to at least have a choice in trucks."

So long as it runs on ethanol, does not have a gun rack, and you don't drive it to church.

Oh, and you have to buy everybody else one, first.

JD's Handsome Son...
Don't forget US cities...Let's start with New Orleans, Philly, DC, Detroit and Los Angeles. How's minority leadership working out for them? And, no I'm not a bigot...just reporting the obvious.

reannthem
I think sexism is a major problem. Racism is waining... but sexism continues to make advances in the law and society.

End Jane Crow!

bob
"Yes, the most advanced nations tend to be governed by whites. But I really do not think we can attribute that to any natural superiority. I primarily it has to do with luck and geography."

Bingo. If I had to bet, this is the side I would take. The idea that the color of skin correlates with anything is curious, at best. Even determining the "color" of a particular person is a bit dicey, and getting more so as the pot continues to melt its contents. OTOH, the government has no problem doing that. My children have to go to the back of the line wherever most government influenced activity is involved. Nuremberg race laws and Affirmative Action.

Nevertheless, even if you believe that the current domination by the white man is luck and geography, that domination cannot be used as evidence of inferiority.

To those that maintain that the "white devils" are superior only in deviousness, cruelty, etc. I have two things to say: 1)You just revealed yourself as racist and believing in race (whatever race is) based genetic superiorities and inferiorities. 2) If, having lived with these inferior white devils for centuries or millenia, you haven't learned how to deal with him--what does that say about you?

My point was, and is, that the white man is the one group you can say anything about. To those that say--don't pay attention to TV, etc.--I quote Goebbels. Tell the lie long enough,loud enough and people believe it. There is substantial evidence that white boys and young men are starting to believe it. I cannot see how society benefits.

What I do really worry about-- "whites" are in a clear majority, both numerically and in power. They put up with this crap because they are pretty well fed; can afford to be generous. Roll things back to 1932--do you think the willingness to be discriminated against will continue? I don't.

Race and Gender
Kathleen I was happy to read an article on race and gender in this campaign that was not inflamatory. Familiar or unfamiliar is a key point. I am an afro American who lived with a Republican for many years out of graduate school and watching jon stewart an underlining point came across in his interview with obama.

With reference to Rev. wright and the flag pin.
Stewart began, "so Senator will you pull a bait and switch and enslave the wite race?" Is that your plan? Obama responded. "your paranoia might make you a suitable debate monderator." Dealing with the Fear and guilt on this issue could earn some consultant a huge salary.

Obama did open the dialogue for which I am grateful, because this 800 pound elephant was difficult to see around.

Ahhh, once again Ms Parker ...
hits it out of the park! I find her both witty and intelligent (oops, can I say that being a white, misogynistic male?). Thank you, again.

Democratic Party
Where do progressives get their gravitas? The mind is a delusion engine. Too many hyphenated-Americans & their female-chauvinist counterparts suffer the delusion that the hue of their skin or their gender imbues them with an esoteric insight on all matters pertaining to reality in general and the human condition in particular. If the rest of us were intelligent enough to appreciate the subtle beauty of anti-white male social engineering (gender/racial quotas, progressive in come taxes, income-redistribution, etc.) we would of course be morally-superior leftists as well. Hence, because we don't agree with the dominant leftist-paradigm we must be bigoted, stupid or immoral. That being said, why would any rational, educated white male associate himself w/ a party (i.e., Democrats) that is actively promoting Society’s antipathy (in word, policy & deed) and outright misandry toward men in general & white men in particular, e.g., Title IX, quotas/affirmative action, VAWA, etc?

3wire, salty, matthew...
All the polls will have Obama ahead going into Nov 4th, but Obama will lose. The hand wringing and shouting will begin, "IT'S THE BRADLEY EFFECT, IT'S THE BRADLEY EFFECT!"

Forgetting that many, and I do mean MANY, people on the middle left do not like Obama because he is TOOO far left, the MSM will say this loss is due to a racist America. Obama is a far left loon and has become a viable candidate only because of the left's love of Affirmative Action and that someone who can whisper sweet nothings in their collective ears.

In order to save America we need to once and for all prove that liberalism is a mental illness and prevent it's sufferers from voting.

JohnnyP: Really?
"Johnnyp writes: Friday, April, 25, 2008 12:36 PM
reannthem
I think sexism is a major problem. Racism is waining... but sexism continues to make advances in the law and society.

End Jane Crow!"


From what reality to do hail? Feel men are the due rulers of the culture? Who are the true rulers of American society? Chivalrous Male politicians were elected and enact social welfare programs ($1.4T per year) that benefit women at the expense of the majority male taxpayer base. Despite all the not so apparent benefits FEMINISM (i.e., Gender Marxism) has brought to contemporary American society, American MEN continue to do all the heavy lifting (i.e., work 90% of overtime, suffer 95% of all work related deaths, etc.), pay the majority of income taxes (Top 50% of wager earners (Majority: MEN!!) pay 96% of all income taxes that support a welfare state that benefits women) & do 98% (women comprise 30% of the military, but only 2% of casualties ) of the dying in a war against a group of ruthless MEN that would love to put American women in Burkas. In addition, society is in process of electing female politicians who are in the process of accelerating the male to female transfer of income/ & opportunity (i.e., Divorce Industrial Complex (e.g., child support, alimony, paternity fraud, etc), sexist progressive income tax system, VAWA, affirmative action, quotas in perpetuity, etc.). Men, of course, will continue to be peons in support of the multi-trillion $ feminist “Entitlement Industrial Complex.” What a deal. Sounds like a “Shadow Matriarchy” to me.


CORRECTION
Demosthenes writes: Friday, April, 25, 2008 1:04 PM
JohnnyP: Really?
"Johnnyp writes: Friday, April, 25, 2008 12:36 PM
reannthem
I think sexism is a major problem. Racism is waining... but sexism continues to make advances in the law and society.

End Jane Crow!"


From what reality to do you hail? Feel men are the true rulers of the culture? Who are the true rulers of American society? Chivalrous Male politicians were elected and enact social welfare programs ($1.4T per year) that benefit women at the expense of the majority male taxpayer base. Despite all the not so apparent benefits FEMINISM (i.e., Gender Marxism) has brought to contemporary American society, American MEN continue to do all the heavy lifting (i.e., work 90% of overtime, suffer 95% of all work related deaths, etc.), pay the majority of income taxes (Top 50% of wager earners (Majority: MEN!!) pay 96% of all income taxes that support a welfare state that benefits women) & do 98% (women comprise 30% of the military, but only 2% of casualties ) of the dying in a war against a group of ruthless MEN that would love to put American women in Burkas. In addition, society is in process of electing female politicians who are in the process of accelerating the male to female transfer of income/ & opportunity (i.e., Divorce Industrial Complex (e.g., child support, alimony, paternity fraud, etc), sexist progressive income tax system, VAWA, affirmative action, quotas in perpetuity, etc.). Men, of course, will continue to be peons in support of the multi-trillion $ feminist “Entitlement Industrial Complex.” What a deal. Sounds like a “Shadow Matriarchy” to me.


Ms. Parker: Ironic
"Or are they weary of being the only group in America that is fair game for contempt, insult and blame?"

This is an ironic statement made by a typical female pundit who routinely comments about the failings of the male of the species while ignoring the contemporary disfunctional nature of her own gender.

Ms. Parker: Ironic
"Or are they weary of being the only group in America that is fair game for contempt, insult and blame?"

This is an ironic statement made by a typical female pundit who routinely comments about the failings of the male of the species while ignoring the contemporary disfunctional nature of her own gender.

Demosthenes
Welllll.... Go back and read some past articles, friend. Ms. Parker has written a number of articles detailing how American men take it in the can in family court, in the media and in general. I think that she has been fairly supportive of a group that doesn't ever really ask for support. If men acted as hysterically as women there would be less of this cr@p. But, since we have to do the work and feed our families, we are too busy and tired to march, chant or otherwise call attention to ourselves. I do agree with other posters above that there will be rioting when Obama loses; in fact it will be threatened beforehand in an attempt to scare whitey into doing what the good whiteys should do. We do have to atone for slavery and Jim Crow, you know.

Clinton's Phantom Votes
Ms. Parker,

I think there are more interesting questions to consider than whether some individuals happen to be more bigoted against one particular group or another. For instance, take your statement: “Clinton beat Obama by a 10-point margin in part because of WECM -- white ethnic Catholic men.”
With 99.51% of the vote counted in Pennsylvania Hillary Clinton received 1,238,232 (54.6%) votes and Barack Obama received 1,030,703 (45.4%), a “winning margin” for Clinton of 207,529 (9.2%) votes. But how many of Clinton’s votes were actually phantom votes cast by John McCain supporters who will vote for McCain in November? How many McCain supporters decided to newly register as Democrats in Pennsylvania or purposely changed their existing Republican registration to Democrat specifically to vote for Clinton in the Democratic presidential primary and artificially boost her standing in hopes of causing trouble for the Democrats in accordance with Rush Limbaugh’s strategy of falsely promoting Hillary Clinton which he calls “Operation Chaos”?
This Republican strategy of trying to make Hillary Clinton’s vote totals appear significantly larger than they really are and to deny or at least delay the nomination of Barack Obama was operative previously in Texas, Ohio, and Mississippi, with one estimate of 40,000 phantom votes having been cast for Clinton in Mississippi by McCain supporters. How many phantom votes were cast by McCain supporters in Pennsylvania?


Clinton's Phantom Votes
If that number was about 100,000 out of a total of 8.3 million votes cast, Clinton’s purported winning margin of 9.2% would be nearly cut in half. If the number of phantom votes for Clinton by McCain supporters in Pennsylvania turned out to be 207,529, the election in Pennsylvania between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton would have actually been a tie. Minus the phantom votes from McCain supporters, how many real votes did Hillary Clinton actually receive in Texas, Ohio, and Pennsylvania?
Some Republicans seem to think (and probably correctly so) that in a November election between two “nice guys”, 72 year old John McCain who among other things voted to begin the Iraq war and 47 year old Barack Obama who opposed starting the Iraq war and who has refused campaign contributions from lobbyists, special interests, and political action committees and who says he wants to help ordinary Americans begin reclaiming their democracy, - in such a McCain vs. Obama election that McCain might very well lose as the current polls indicate.
I can understand why Republicans remain silent, but why do many democrats and most of the news media seem unaware or prefer to ignore the false support for Clinton caused by the phantom votes by McCain supporters?

refat
I live in central PA and a local campaign manager was quoted as being "pizzed off" at all the conservatives that reregistered to keep Hill afloat. His feeling was that he had worked so hard on his campaign (Repub Congressional 10th distrt) yet could not lean on a lot of traditional voters. He was angry. So, it seems that a lot of people in the midstate did so. It is only fair since the dems in Florida and Michigan selected McCain for us. The longer they (Hill and O'Bama) tear at each other, the better for the GOP. Of course that does mean we get McCain as POTUS. Talk about a no-win situation. Hopefully he will pick a viable VEEP candidate.

orlandocajun writes.......
JD's Handsome Son...
Don't forget US cities...Let's start with New Orleans, Philly, DC, Detroit and Los Angeles. How's minority leadership working out for them? And, no I'm not a bigot...just reporting the obvious.

oj....that can said for the African continent as well. Although I support or condone what the "Europen Colonialist" did in many cases,, most of the countries were much better off prior to their "independence". The problems that are going on in oil rich Nigeria is helping in the rising gas prices. BTW, Gem here is from the Orlando area as well.

Only STUPID Liberals
Would attribute the voting patterns of white men to an "ism". I'm a 41 yr old Conservative and would NEVER vote for either Obama or Clinton but I would vote for a a Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, or Shelby Steele (judging purely by their writings)and an American version of Margaret Thatcher. This has nothing to do with sex or race and everything to do with positions, beliefs, and ideology. Conservatives are far more likely to actually follwo Dr. King's advice and judge people on character while Libs are absolutely obsessed with physical charasteristics regardless of real qualifications. One need only look at the overwhelming black vote for Obama which demonstrates to me that they give no thought at all to what is actually best for the country as a whole. I'd wager than many don't even have a clue what his positions are.

Arrogant Obama won't be anyone's servant
If you don't humble yourself--God will do it for you.

Yes, Hillary totally had an entitlement attitude for the nomination...AT FIRST. It was despicable. And the American public blasted her for it and she was humiliated. But she changed her tune, humbled herself and rolled up her sleeves and got to work, and her yielding the working class blue collar workers is proof of that. When one repents, God forgives; and Americans forgive.

Now, let's look at Obama, the proud, arrogant peacock. He refuses to humble himself. That is beneath him, what he’d call "slave mentality." He doesn't know that to be a president or any government leader you are in fact only a SERVANT of the American people. To Obama, serving means working in the capacity of, but NOT BEING A SERVANT. He will have none of THAT.

I don't care what the numbers or threats from the black or leftist communities are, he will NOT get the nomination, mainly because he refuses to humble himself. Sound too simple? Perhaps, but it's TRUE. The #1 sin God despises is PRIDE. In fact God says He doesn’t even like a “proud look.” Remember, PRIDE was Lucifer’s sin.

If you get in bed with the devil you got to put out...if you don't you'll be raped and then thrown to the curb bleeding and beaten. Obama got into bed with his black power church and pastor and THAT was his foundation of his campaign and got him his jumpstart. He embraced his followers worshipping him. Then, instead of humbling himself and apologizing wholeheartedly, he justified his indefensible church and pastor and hid behind the name of Jesus and "uniting." In fact, this “foundation” is exactly what will do him in: Specifically: REV. WRIGHT.

Obama just wants to be president. He will never become a servant of the very people he despises (white, working class blue collar Americans); he still has issues about the color of his skin and would never consider being a “servant” to anyone.

nora ephron
my take is I hate females more than blacks. That being the case I will burn my copy of "Sleepless in Seattle". Afterall I don't think I can live with myself knowing I have something that was written by a woman and considered by many to be a great movie.

My next move will be to also get rid of all my c/w music as well as elvis and all that crap that was produced during the 5-'s and 60's.

My next move will be to run down to the ghetto music store and empty their supplies of gangsta rap. I will further look to enhance my new black identity by referring to my wife as either b@tch or howhen my welfare check comes late.

If a black identity can work for the oblahma I see no reason to be so uppity and sanctimonious to continue with my former life as whitey

Phil
We have a saying at my house;If you have to ask the price,you can't afford it.Translation;Don't read my post,I try to avoid conflict.My writing, is in conflict with your ability to understand.

killer
I too am familiar with that saying. I have always found it just as absurd as, "the customer is always right"

Pandering
As a single white male, I'm wondering when the politicians will start pandering to me rather than telling me they're going to take my hard-earned money and give it away.

As for males being portrayed in commercials, let me give kudos to two companies ...

Carl's Jr. for the hot sexy babes (especially the one on the mechanical bull), and Southwest Airlines, for showing black people can be just as goofy (the woman who launches the "pink slip" virus, or the one snooping through the medicine cabinet).

Re-defeat communism!

get used to saying "PRESIDENT McCAIN"
There are Black men I'd vote for, and women I'd vote for. In fact I can think of a Black woman I'd vote for...heya Condy!

But if you think I'd vote for either of these inexperienced leftists, coming from the part of the Democratic party that blame White men for all of their problems, real, imagined, or self-inflicted, you have got another thing coming.

So call me a racist, sexist, bitter, etc., and get used to saying "PRESIDENT McCAIN"

THE Woman That'd Get My Vote
Oh RIGHT ON Herr Krieger. That was a hell of a woman.

DerKrieger writes: "....and an American version of Margaret Thatcher....

I don't know her domestic politics well, but Golda Meier was another.

White males paying for sins of 10% South
I think this white male says it all:

I am sick of being blamed for the sins of others, sins I had no say or control over, sick of it.

I am sick of blaming America for the sins of slave owners, which amounted to about 10 percent of the south.

I am sick of being blamed for a bunch of racist rednecks in the LEGAL PROFESSION who made the Jim Crow Laws.

I am sick of being blamed for blacks sitting at the back of the bus, wasn't up to me where any man sat.

I am sick of hearing about racism!

All of it coming from the racists themselves like Wright and Obama.

-Unknown white male

Sadly, I Agree About The Riots
The weird part is, will it be black against white conservatives or black against Hillary voters?

Also, my prediction, we will see many more people like Reverand Wright popping up and establishing churches based on hate and in a tax exempt status.

Seriously, by now everyone has seen how one can profit on hate and racism and get away scott free. This will be a #1 occupation to be sure, because whether Obama wins or not, angry folk like Wright will feel vindicated.

JohnnyP: Typical PC Eunoch
What politically correct profs did you get this pap from??

Why do women earn less? THREE reasons account for 99% of the 'pay gap'.

#1 Women do not get into the HARD sciences of Physics, Chemistry, Engineering, Metallurgy nearly in any numbers compared to men. The take easier curriculum's like psychology that reasonably lead to lower pay. They do not get into manufacturing management. They do not take the hard and dangerous (hence better paid) jobs. From crab fishermen, to loggers to firefighters. Men are nearly 100% of workplace deaths.

#2 Women take very long gaps in their work life to raise children. A man leaving for long periods for any reason will earn less as well. Get over it or don't have kids.

#3 Men view work more as who they are. This translates to they hit the damn job harder.

There are no "mens studies". How many women get that useless degree and then complain they earn less than a grad that took something useful? Ditto African American studies.

And how many small employers don't hire women simply to avoid the too numerous species looking for a trumped up sex harassment, discrimination, or hostile work environment lawsuit. Who can blame these employers. This is women keeping women down.

Johnnyp writes: Friday, April, 25, 2008 12:36 PM
reannthem
I think sexism is a major problem. Racism is waining... but sexism continues to make advances in the law and society.

End Jane Crow!

NO LABELS for Regular White Men
WECM
Is that a NEW label?
Is there a difference between a white catholic ethic male and a white protestant ethnic male?

If whites have something to feel proud or--thankful for--it is freedom from labels!

We consider ourselves just REGULAR AMERICANS, and that is liberating and not limiting!

Since we do not say British-Americans or English-Americans or Anglo-Americans, do not denigrate catholic white guys as if white guys are either bitter laid-off steel workers or WASP Wall Street Honchos.

Archie Bunker was a WASP and W F Buckley was Catholic, but was WFB ethnic?

No white guy wants to be called "ethnic"; it sounds less assimilated, like some anachronistic Irish cop or Italian organ grinder.

After one generation WHITE FOLKS become mixed up and many don't follow the religions of their parents.

Leftists SUCK
News flash: Obama wins! (due to black racist vote....)

P.S. Shut UP Matthew...

ha ha
apprently some posters misunderstood my earlier post.

We need to end the anti-male bias in the law and government programs!

Chivalry has no place in the law or politics.

Men need to start demanding EQUALITY and end legal and social preferences for women.

When we see military fatalities nearing 50/50 (not the current 98% male) we will know we are in a society that really takes equality seriously.

When we see occupational fatalities nearing 50/50 (not the current 93% male)...

When we see women shouting down political pandering to females, we will know we are in a society that really takes equality seriously!

RIOTS ?

"If one feels left out, one will act left out."

Elitism causes a "Royal" disconnect between the working class and their leadership. Elitists do not see the under-educated and poor as fully human. They assume that folks who do not possess higher-education are mentally retarded, lack real feelings, and in need of pity. Elitists consider Working-class folks simple, dishonest, dirty, and unenlightened.

So what came first... Resentment or Elitism?


Govt.-run schools still the problem
Victicrats are more race-obsessed than Mulder was UFO-obsessed on the X-Files.

The fact that 2 of the 3 candidates are completely unqualified means nothing to the liberal bolsheviks.

Real America can't tolerate the increasing weight of socialist-programmed subnormals.

Get rid of government schools and in 20 years this menace can be turned around. If you don't want more dummies, shut down the g-d-damned dummy factories run by second-raters, slackers and socialists!

All I can say is
I love being a knuckle-dragging, beer-swillin' happy troglodyte with a bit of a temper as well and.....I have not and will not vote for any of the three.

Hillary, osama obama and J McCain delenda est.


ex-wyomingite
the repubs and the conservs can take no credit or blame for the clinton victory in pa. All the voters had to be registered dims so there was no cross-over repubs involved.

It seems all creidt can go to the missus clinton and the blame to the oblahma.

I onl;y hope they keep up the inner party squabbling all the way to denver. But what is making it even more interesting is that howard, the screamer, dean is making himself even more obnoxious.

How can it get any better

Driven to Racism
Blacks have been driven to racism by the very system that was supposed to free them.

Forgot one
Jeanne Kirkpatrick
Not Condi, and not because she's black, I admit she's a brilliant woman but she's got too much Bush baggage for me. I think she's RINO.

Riots..a caller on Rush said that there is a group organizing to bring a 1968 redux to Denver.
They have had meetings with the police already to lay down the ground rules. Can't remember the name they call themselves. We can be certain there will be trouble aplenty.

White men
Are perfect and they smell like sunshine the quicker Afro-Americans realize that the better we all will be! HAHA

Not Just the White Men
As a matter of fact, lots of people aren't feeling the love anymore. Obama would NEVER win the general, not now that we KNOW who he is. The fact that he is black is irrelevant, and is the media's attempt at a distraction. Instead, let's talk about how detrimental his ideas are, how his ignorance of economics would nose-dive America, how his lack of judgement would impair him from keeping America safe (even from his friends). Let's talk about the kind of people he would appoint to key positions. Instead of talking about what really matters, the media keeps harping on race.

And I mind that any criticism is automatically considered racist. It is not racist to disagree with someone who happens to be stupid and dangerous.

Walkerny is Right
Sexism is bias too. Too bad feminism had to advance itself on the backs and throats of men. I object to all the "politically correct" commercials that portray husbands as useless morons. And by the way, the many groin shots on America's Funniest Videos aren't very funny. Seems like every generation has a new crop who missed the opportunity to burn their bras and demands that society wake up and carry the feminist torch with them- they're being discriminated on. Been there, done that, not interested in going there again.

Amelia --
GREAT POST at 3:37 a.m.! :o)

Riots? Get your gun, Annie
So sick of this ghetto culture. It is good to see folks finally getting so tired of the PCism that they are speaking their minds and admitting that they don't want to live in a Hip Hop society (shhhhh -- racist!) I've already vowed not to shut up anymore. But I am aoso seeking protection. Nothing warmed my heart like those brave Korean grocers defending their property during the 1992 S. Central L.A. riots over that punk. Boom, boom -- .9 millimeters humming their song. NEVER, EVER give up your guns, America. NEVER.

UNC said it best!
UNC Doc writes:
Unwinnable argument
If Obama loses, it of course will be blamed on white racism. It's part of the culture. Don't forget that white men are to blame for all the problems in the black culture such as getting young single black women pregnant again and again, forcing them to use illegal drugs, forcing them not to finish high school and become gainfully employed, forcing blacks to commit disproportionate amounts of violent crime.
We may as well call black urban culture "Vampire culture": When assigning blame, there are no mirrors allowed.

UNC,
You hit the nail on the head. I am a black conservative and I hear this nonsense all the time. I tell my wife daily that I am amazed at the "white man". How they can just pop into a black neighborhood and litter it with tons of trash on the street (I guess in the middle of the night) and as you say force blacks to commit crimes, sell drugs to other blacks, and somehow prevent them from finishing high school and going to college.

Thank you for your insight. Kathleen this was a good article. I enjoy how the MSM is keeping the whole race thing going.

RoddRepublican-Chicago
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