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Friday, February 22, 2008
Kathleen Parker :: Townhall.com Columnist
The Ecstacy of Barack
by Kathleen Parker
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WASHINGTON -- Much has been made of the religious tenor of Barack Obama's presidential campaign.

Reports of women weeping and swooning -- even of an audience applauding when The One cleared his proboscis (blew his nose for you mortals) -- have become frequent events in the heavenly realm of Obi-Wan Obama.

His rhetoric, meanwhile, drips with hints of resurrection, redemption and second comings. "We are the ones we've been waiting for," he said on Super Tuesday night. And his people were glad.

Actually, they were hysterical, the word that best describes what surrounds this young savior and that may be more apt than we imagine. The word is derived from the Greek hystera, or womb. The ancient Greeks considered hysteria a psychoneurosis peculiar to women caused by disturbances of the uterus.

Well, you don't see any men fainting in Obi's presence.

Barack Obama has many appealing qualities, not least his own reluctance to be swaddled in purple. Nothing quite says, "I'm only human" like whipping out a hankie and blowing one's nose in front of 17,000 admirers. The audience's applause was reportedly awkward, as if the crowd was both approving of anything their savior did, but a little disappointed at this rather ungodly behavior.

So what is the source of this infatuation with Obama? How to explain the hysteria? The religious fervor? The devotion? The weeping and fainting and utter euphoria surrounding a candidate who had the audacity to run for leader of the free world on a platform of mere hope?

If anthropologists made predictions the way meteorologists do, they might have anticipated Obama's astronomical rise to supernova status in 2008 of the Common Era. Consider the cultural coordinates, and Obama's intersection with history becomes almost inevitable.

To play weatherman for a moment, he is a perfect storm of the culture of narcissism, the cult of celebrity, and a secular society in which fathers (both the holy and the secular) have been increasingly marginalized from the lives of a generation of young Americans.

All of these trends have been gaining momentum the past few decades. Social critic Christopher Lasch named the culture of narcissism a generation ago and cited addiction to celebrity as one of the disease's symptoms -- all tied to the decline of the family.

That culture has merely become more exaggerated as spiritual alienation and fatherlessness have collided with technology (YouTube, Facebook, MySpace, etc.) that enables the self-absorption of the narcissistic personality.

Grown-ups with decades under their double chins may have a variety of reasons for supporting Obama, but the youth who pack convention halls and stadiums as if for a rock concert constitute a tipping point of another order.

One of Obama's TV ads, set to rock 'n' roll, has a Woodstock feel to it. Text alternating with crowd scenes reads: "We Can Change The World" and "We Can Save The Planet."

Those are some kind of campaign promises. The kind no mortal could possibly keep, but never mind. Obi-Wan Obama is about hope -- and hope, he'll tell you, knows no limits.

It is thus no surprise that the young are enamored of Obama. He's a rock star. A telegenic, ultra-bright redeemer fluent in the planetary language of a cosmic generation. The force is with him.

But underpinning that popularity is something that transcends mere policy or politics. It is hunger, and that hunger is clearly spiritual. Human beings seem to have a yearning for the transcendent -- hence thousands of years of religion -- but we have lately shied away from traditional approaches and old gods.

Thus, in post-Judeo-Christian America, the sports club is the new church. Global warming is the new religion. Vegetarianism is the new sacrament. Hooking up, the new prayer. Talk therapy, the new witnessing. Tattooing and piercing, the new sacred symbols and rituals.

And apparently, Barack Obama is the new messiah.

Here's how a 20-year-old woman in Seattle described that Obama feeling: "When he was talking about hope, it actually almost made me cry. Like it really made sense, like, for the first, like, whoa ... "

This New Age glossolalia may be more sonorous than the guttural emanations from the revival tent, but the emotion is the same. It's all religion by any other name.

Whatever the Church of Obama promises, we should not mistake this movement for a renaissance of reason. It is more like, well, like whoa.

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this is just as much over the top
as she claims obama is.

so republicans are deciding to be the anti-hope party.

i think that will win them alot of votes.

So what
People voted for Bush because of his "connection with God"

For millions of registered voters...it's never about the ISSUES..

Always about identification. Race, gender, and especially RELIGION.

Oh well.

Besides, Obama MANIA isn't really that manic.
He's pretty much tied with Hillary.

Look at Ron Paul's supporters. Pretty faithful and energized there.

If anything....it looks like the Republicans have McCain(ia)

He blew his opponents away.

religiouslib
Clearly you have no clue as to what Ms. Parker
conveyed in her article.

I quote you: "so republicans are deciding to be the anti-hope party."

That proves my point. You didn't understand any of it so please spare us your comments.

If a conservative said the things ...
that the Obamas have said, there would be a liberal firestorm claiming conservatives want a theocracy.

Massa (or is that Messiah?)
Obama will have to detail his plans at some point. Empty platitudes will satisfy his most fervent airheaded followers, but for the more skeptical masses of independent voters, surely a more thorough accounting of plans will be demanded come general election time. I have a feeling his shine will be dulling around August or September.

One should never underestimate the power of denial. But I just can't believe that a majority of Americans will decide to embrace higher and more taxes, bigger and more intrusive and more powerful government at the expense of individual liberty, and a huge new "entitlement" program at the very point in history when the largest generation of Americans in history will be retiring, putting an unbearable strain on an already overloaded citizenry.

The Ecstacy of Barack
"Here's how a 20-year-old woman in Seattle described that Obama feeling: "When he was talking about hope, it actually almost made me cry. Like it really made sense, like, for the first, like, whoa ... "

It you took away the words "actually" and "like" our younger people could not speak. It drives me nuts.

Republicans are not the "anti-hope" party. we are the party who believe that the people are the hope of the country. Give the people and they will make the changes. But if you elect either of the narcissistic candidates the DIMS have to choose from we are in deep dodo as they will tax us out of opportunity and there goes the "hope" but the change" is one we will not like.




The Obama's are black bigots
Talk radio's obsession with the Clinton's is getting old. The 90's are long gone and America has never faced a bigger threat than the anti-American, anti-White Obama's.

No apology or excuse is necessary from Michelle.

John Konop
I hate to break it to you but Senator Obama is a
fake. Anyone with a brain can see through his empty speeches. Senator McCain should be able to rip him to shreds in a debate.

This is a brilliant piece
"Thus, in post-Judeo-Christian America, the sports club is the new church. Global warming is the new religion."

Amen. And the results have never been more clear. Buckle up for the ride for the next two decades, because change IS a comin' but the TYPE of change will be, unfortunately, unbelievable.

Ahhh, clear-headed thinking...
...goes well with the morning coffee. Thank you KP.

Nose
What? You mean YoMama blew his OWN nose?

Why wasn't the giddy "I felt a thrill go up my leg" Chris Matthews there to blow it for him?

Um..
Kathleen:

That would be E-C-S-T-A-S-Y

Thank you.

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Who can say "nope" to hope?


MS. Parker
Without sounding too FORWARD,you have been absent of ecstacy for a MINUTE.A person does not treat water with adoration,when they have it everyday.Human Beings are programmed to respond to LACK.Just as a person in the desert responds upon finding water.So it is that people respond when finding HOPE.Narcissism is a defensive response to LACK.The young,who are brighter than their parents,saw a generation of people driven by "HATE" and "FALSE PROMISES".They then decided, to protect their future by finding a new PATH.Every abnormality, that the young bear is at our FEET.I am ECSTATIC about the fact, that they found their direction before all was LOST!Out with the "OLD" and in with the "NEW",never sounded so GoooooooD......Good Riddances to bad Rubbish".

The Thrill
pianogirl, That would be E-C-S-T-A-C-Y. Ecstacy is a hallucinogen and produces stimulant effects like amphetamine. It must be the same thing that consumes women who around Bubba - they want to kiss his hand or something. That, though has worn off a bit. His wrinkles, thinning hair, temper, finger-pointing, offensive attitude, reputation, and stupid mouth are showing through the enthralled public. Anyone who admires a politician, for anything other than what he has done is a nit.

Obamamania
I truly hope Obama wins the presidency, because when the downfall of America happens, I want a democrat at the helm. What the hell are you talking about you ask. Let ol' JRS enlighten you.

We are 9.2 trillion dollars in debt with a budget this year of 3.1 trillion. We pay 500 billion in interest a year on the debt, with it growing annually. That is almost as much as we spend for the defense of this country. We spent 1.2 trillion on Social Security and Medicare this year, with it projected to continue spiraling skywards out of control.

Now half of the 9.2 trillion is held by the Government in the form of IOU's in the SS "lockbox", not cash. Now the government will tell you that it holds bonds that cover the debt, which is true, but guess who issued the bonds, that's right; the government. Now where will the government get the money to repay these bonds, that's right again; the taxpayer.

Who holds the rest of our debt; oversea investors. Now with the dollar at all time lows, precious metals (gold, silver and platinum) at all time highs and a trade deficit near record highs, I see in the near future, these investors looking elsewhere to invest in safer markets. Would you buy bonds from someone who held this kind of debt? And when that happens, the good ol' US of A will be bankrupt. It will be like Germany after WW1, when the German Mark became worthless. One million Marks at that time wouldn't buy you a loaf of bread, but a cart of firewood did.

With all the new social programs that Obama plans to enact, at the cost of hundreds and hundreds of billions more, I can see the crises happening before 2012.

So to all you Obamamania people, vote for your "government please take care of me" little heart out, and when the end comes, just remember, you read it here first.

ex-Wyomingite
Whoa..are we to understand that you are saying
the messiah of change has plagiarized another.
I had the grossest thought after I heard about it, but I wouldn't be surprised if he began handing out his used hankies after a good snort,
to his adoring worshippers as Elvis did with his sweaty scarves. Yuck. Sorry, had to say it.

I detest Hillary but I felt kind of sorry for the old termagant when this arrogant jerk was so rude to her during the debate (which I didn't watch, ran out of barf bags). Saw the clip on Fox. One can read a number of things in h is
body language (not a feminist either), but what I
read was total disdain for a woman (did he learn that from his daddy and stepdaddy????).
He exuded contempt, I admit she's beneath contempt however this is a presidential debate and apparently his mama didn't teach any manners.

Goatlocker
Hopefully at some point Sen Obama will need to discuss specifics and explain why more taxes, socialized medicine, and pulling out of Iraq precipitously are just what the country needs. Hopefully sen McCain can articulate a counterview.

However, I believe the vectors of the time we are in are too powerful, and that we are headed for a long conservative winter. Mrs. parker has done a nice job of pointing out how forces have combined to result in Obamamania.

Obamamania - catch it!

Obama : #1 Liberal Senator
The Wall Street Journal’s Steve Moore has done the math on Obama’s tax plan. He says it will add up to a 39.6 percent personal income tax, a 52.2 percent combined income and payroll tax, a 28 percent capital-gains tax, a 39.6 percent dividends tax, and a 55 percent estate tax.

Obama makes me "swoon" when I think of the $$$$$$$$$ flying out of my wallet to pay for his socialist schemes!!!!

Michelle Obama
Michelle Obama will be the reincarnation of Hillary Clinton, only worse.

The Snotty Kleenex
will be auctioned on Ebay

What
is so disturbing about all of this swooning is the substitution of Obama for the Christ himself.

This country has become even more uneducated than I thought when people are swooning over a politician, any politician!

When Obama proves not to be the savior how much of my tax dollars will I have to fork over for another entitlement program to pay the therapy bill for the disappointed masses?

New bumper sticker
"How much of your personal money are YOU willing to give for CHANGE?"

Obama reminds me of the false god in the Left Behind series of books - making all the promises - people fainting - Matthews feeling a crawling up his leg!!

An old bos once told me "Be careful what you wish for" - so true. I repeat "Be careful what you wish for"!

Time for "change"...
The tombstone of Karl Marx reads:

"The Philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways -- The point is to change it."

Any connection, ya think, to Obama's campaign slogan, "change"?

The Dems worship in principal at the altar of Marx so why should the Hussein and his wife be any different?


I just wonder
how long it will be before his hanky is on ebay and how much someone like Susan Sarawrap will pay for it.

OOPS!
That's, "principle", not...oh well, you get my point and correction.

Sheesh!

An Obama Nation . . .
. . . would be an abomination.

Issues
On my issues - the "global warming" hoax, the Mexican invasion, Level of Regulation, Respect for the Constitution, War on Islamofascism, War in Iraq, McCain only differs from both Dem candidates on Iraq. His knee-jerk willingness to hobble our fighters puts him smack-dab in the liberal camp.

So I am forced to choose between a Democrat & a Democrat. I'll probably not vote for President, but if I do, I'm voting for the Democrat.

You don't understand Him
People didn't understand Jesus or Buddha at first and you don't understand Barrack Obama. When he is in power people like you still won't understand, but you will get the benefits anyway. Just the savings from no more wars will mean that taxes on individuals will be done away with completely within his first term. He will find useful things for the people that were tricked into the armies to do instead of killing innocents around the world. Probably we won't need all that gas and oil from the Middle East because we won't be burning it up in tanks and planes attacking other countries. It's too hard to see all the benefits now, but they will come.

Boone, etc.
1) Boone - from your post of 12:22 I infer that you are comparing Obama to Jesus or Buddha.

Wow

I can only further infer that with such a spectacularly goofy (it's hyperbole day here!) statement you are trying to channel Loyal Democrat, but there is only ONE Loyal Democrat and you ain't him. (her?).

"It's too hard to see all the benefits now, but they will come". That's what I call TRUST.

Etc. - Here in Maine Rep. Tom Allen is running against Sen. Susan Collins for her Senate seat. BO has been endorsed by Moveon.org, the same fine folks who called General David Petraeus a traitor, and they are also busy helping Tom - with a little less than 9 months to go until the election they have spent more than $300,000 here in Maine - notice I said with a little less than 9 months to go, so there will undoubtedly be more, MUCH more.

We are so unworthy.

The Senator is going to swamp him. I can't WAIT until the debates between the two.

Tea Party - 9:49am - Right on the Money!
"Saw the clip on Fox. One can read a number of things in his body language [...] what I
read was total disdain for a woman"

BINGO !!!

And this is exactly why they swoon for him. He (in decreasing order of importance) is arrogant, extremely confident, amusing, gives nothing, and treats you as worthless.

If i remember my collage days correctly, this is the purrrrfect combination of what makes many women swoon. It never made sense to me. And it was not what my mother taught me. But it was the generally observed reality.

And the sick thing is that the last part "treats you as worthless" seems to be a key ingredient. It ignites some sort of animal attraction in this group.

I also noticed that the swoon does tend to wear out, at varying rates for different people. Depending, of course, on the skill of the cad and the personality of the target.

Hopefully, this effect will wear out by October.

Histeric histrionics
I could not agree with you more and couldn't say it better myself.

The histrionics seen at Obama ralliies remind me so much of Tom Jones old concerts where women threw their underwear to the singer and younger ladies fainted at the sound of his voice.

To view the similarities just read my article:
http://www.helium.com/tm/879336/httpthinkingamericanblogtow nhallcomsince-september-nation-assaulted

or go to http://www.personaldiscovery.blogspot.com

or: http://www.thinkingamerican.blogtownhall.com

Thank you;
Joe

The sadness of Barak Obama
Bravo. Excellent article.

As a happy and successful person with a good family and deep faith, I find Obama's rhetoric and his audience's reaction to it quite silly and to be honest, sad. These people are looking to a politician and a big federal government to give meaning to their life.

How empty and truly sad...


We don't need the 2nd Coming of Christ
We need the 2nd coming of Cinncinatus.

As I said in another thread, McCain needs to hit the point, and hit it hard, that *he* is not the 2nd coming of Christ. That it won't be he who fixes the problems we have, but We, The People, who will fix the problems, once he gets the government out of our way and off our backs.

Paint the gov't as the burden, not the solution, and drive it home, and McCain can beat the Ayatollah Obama.

We've seen the frenzied hysteria before.
Most recently at the 1992 Dem Convention when the nominee and his wife walked the underground tunnel, slowly and dramatically, to the podium, while being telecast all the way to the mob via jumbotron. They were nuts by the time he got there.

He was a man from Hope, too. Promised a middle class tax cut as his first order of business, as well as the "most ethical administration in history." Women sighed when he spoke.

Instead we got a retroactive tax increase, the largest in the history of the USA, and corruption from sea to shining sea. Not to mention the most sordid personal debauchery ever seen in a President, far beyond what most of us thought could ever occur.

Yes, Obama and the crowd reaction reminds me of someone.

Commerical for McCain
McCain starts off along a riverbank, then tries to 'walk across'. Of course he falls in. He stands up, tries another area. Does this a few times, until he succeeds, somewhere down stream. The tag line is "I wonder of Obamamanics know there are are rocks under the water Where their guy stands on, and that he's not the 'one'?

Key point
"Whatever the Church of Obama promises, we should not mistake this movement for a renaissance of reason."

Well said; this idea shouldn't be limited to the "Church of Obama".

boone
I get it. Satire. Good stuff.

It will be interesting
If Obama becomes president. Then, when all those kiddies who faint in place at his megga rallies get real jobs, start paying real taxes, They'll re-register GOP and become thinking folks and not lemmins. 2012 looks to be a crushing landslide for the demcorates. The stars are a-lining!

In fact, in just 2 years, Obaoma will lose the majority - by veto proof numbers, then in 2012, he joins the ex presidents club and goes quienty away into the sunset to look for rocks to stand on.

The Sadness of Barack
Excellent article.

Reasonable people are quickly coming to realize that this guy is in over his head.

We don't need a rock star for president.

Hopefully the bubble children that support him won't decide who is president.

Chauvinism Shrugged
Let's not mix apples and oranges here. Obamania is quite apparent. I was around (though young) when the Beatles set foot in the U.S. I would venture to say a similar proprtion of "fainters" and "swooners" now exist on the Obama campaign trail. He offers something different than we have in modern politics, an "everyman" illusion preached to the uninitiated in a rock star medium reminiscent of a John Lennon's "Imagine" which offers nothing but a "if life would only be different, look how wonderful everything would be." The only thing Mr. Lennon didn't offer was the viable method to accomplish his "imaginary" hope but the devil is in the deatils I think the old adage goes. Create a vacuum and hope that wwhat is suck into the empty space is beneficial to the orignal hope. Seldom will it be because the smarter, more effective entrepeneurial forces already know how to take control and what you are left with is not the "hopeful" ones who want "change" but the same type of people (perhaps from a different perspective) who always take charge and corrupt the process in maybe a different way, but just as ineffective by definition.

Faint and swoon, ladies, the man you really want and need is within your grasp but he's probably not running for office. Marry or cohabitate with him or let the ladies who have a man with an actual job and responsibility vote for an elected position. They know something you fainters and swooners may never get to know.

Religiouslib, others...
I'm not sure that republicans are running on "anti-hope".... but here is what I strongly suspect:

Underneath the policy positions on economics & foreign affairs & stances on the social issues, etc, etc., sometimes cult of personality enters into politics (as well as other institutions of american life). Barack Obama is starting to become something BIGGER than "Barack Obama"... that is, a growing number of people are starting to view him as something more than a compendium of policies, more than a politician, more than a political platform.

Obama is growing into that ellusive thing called a "movement", which draws its power by tapping into the subconscious, that area of "hopes" & "dreams" & myths & longings sometimes associated with religions. The early christians were a "movement" when this religion was starting to take shape & the early biblical texts were being written & rewritten & interpreted & a "flood of supernatural feeling", passion - having little to do with rational thinking - worked its way into the subconscious.

Obama is becoming more & more perceived as "HOPE", an Idea, not a man, not a politician; but a man who can articulate the nations hopes & dreams & aspirations, a movement made possible by the widespread despondency of the Bush years.

Kilroy 8:52am
Is that hope in your soul or soap in your hole?

I Suggest
that all further swooning and fainting be called an Obamasm.

The words of a "True Believer" part 1
Boone Gushes; ""You don't understand Him
People didn't understand Jesus or Buddha at first and you don't understand Barrack Obama.""


Boone I've heard people talk like you before, they were all "Born Again" christians, shortly after they'd been saved. Your post is nothing more than a twisted liberal version of a Religious Epiphany.
But, being the barbarian I am, let's tear your little vision to shreds, shall we?

""When he is in power people like you still won't understand, but you will get the benefits anyway.""

Kinda like how you libs Hate the military, but enjoy the freedoms that defend?
Do you actually think Anyone will be "enjoying Benefits"?? I guess you call Sky High Taxes, a Gutted military, and millions of muslims calling for the execution of our new president for being an Apostate, Benefits. I guess we'll see some "benefits".

""Just the savings from no more wars will mean that taxes on individuals will be done away with completely within his first term.""

I'm not sure where you learned math, but military spending makes up less than 5% of GNP.
While entitlements are in double digits. Obama could disarm the whole country and still not have enough in savings to even pay for his socialist programs, let alone "Eliminate Taxes".
Not to mention the fact that Corporations don't pay taxes, they just add the new cost to the price the consumer pays. Besides, I thought Liberals Loved paying more taxes!
I'm sorry Boone, but this sentence has no connection with reality.

Part 2 coming soon

Poor Obama Fans...

Should Obama be nominated... McCain will be President :)

The Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy failed to stop John McCain... But they did not fail to stop Hillary Clinton (almost).

Does anyone really think that "Hillary's Hippies" are going to shift to Obama? McCain is now the "New Clinton", sex scandal and all.

Sorry, but Obama is McCain's only chance. John can literally sit quietly until November and watch Obama hang himself.

Best advice for John... Bite your lip, and just shake your head at Obama for the next 8 months.

Jackpine Savage
I feel sorry for you... you don't understand.

After the Holy-O gets into power, He will save us. All you have to do is have faith and believe. Feel the love brother because all will be purrrrfect.

Read the $ post from 2:45pm, the $ gets it, the $ understands!

True Believer part 2
""He will find useful things for the people that were tricked into the armies to do instead of killing innocents around the world. Probably we won't need all that gas and oil from the Middle East because we won't be burning it up in tanks and planes attacking other countries. It's too hard to see all the benefits now, but they will come. ""



Wow, I thought the previous sentence was as crazy as you could get, but obviously I was wrong. No need to comment on this line, lets just bask in the absolute void that is your intellect.



You Boone, are the "Perfect Democrat" Did the pre-frontal Lobotomy hurt much?

Kilroy
I love you, man! You rock. My mom had hope on a rope once....it failed!!!

Reaping the Whirlwind…
Well, it looks like the chickens are beginning to come home to roost, in this, the year of our Erstwhile Lord 2008.

Who would have thunk that after spending the entirety of the 20th century successfully battling the forces of tyranny, communism, socialism, charlatanism, chicanery and general all around misguided utopianism, that the dawning years of the new millennium would be accompanied by the sight of hysterical masses ACTUALLY BEGGING to be controlled by the government – not only for their own good, but for the good of the planet, no less!

Our country was founded upon, and succeeded because of, an abiding belief in the supremacy of the individual. Our entire government, cultural identity and collective mindset was secured in the belief that the best good was achieved for the most people when the individual was left in as much control of his own destiny as possible.

Apparently, that is all out the window now. Growing numbers of reason-challenged emotional cripples are now clamoring to have their dwindling stockpile of remaining freedoms exchanged for that elusive commodity known as security. Security from want. Security from death. Security from unequal outcomes. Security from the vagaries of nature. Nothing is off the table when you have been convinced that the only limit to your yearning for satiation is your ability to hope for it.

Well, we have all had a hand in the making of our brave new world, so I guess it is only fitting that we all suffer the consequences together. Shame though, because we had a good thing going there for a couple hundred years.

Thrill Rides...

Thrill seekers are usually "Teenagers"...

One can expect Obama to attract the immature and/or addicted.

But, don't be dumb like the liberal dopers, and believe that 51% of Americans are ready to surrender their beloved nation to a Child.

Obamania will not stop at the edge of the cliff.

Disco anyone :)

Tampa Dave
Thanks for the purely wonderful vision of your swoon caused by the vision of all that $$$ flying out of our wallets. Excellent.

And you're so right: Michelle IS Hillary all over again!! And if you think about it, Obama is Bill, perhaps to the 10th power, but nonetheless cut of the same cloth. Those two couples couldn't possibly like each other as they are images of each other. Don't forget, Bill had the women swooning (perhaps not fainting as much). Some of them still defend his indiscretions as being Monica's fault (which is symptomatic of a crushhhhh).

the Ecstacy...
Please!! What you're all missing here is the connection to Islam. "We are the ones we've been waiting for" reeks of the 12th madhi. Anyone???
Obamavision smells like what it ain't. Has anybody looked into his Muslim connections? Bankrolled by some billionaire Arab in England, Odinga the Kenyan revolutionary who promises to introduce Shari'a once he's taken over. His half-brother, Muslim. He's more Arab than African-American. All this info is out there for the looking. Beware the Obama presidency!

boone (@12:22)
Good satire
(it WAS satire...right? well even if you didn't intend it to be, it was)
Thanks for the laugh

anastasia
Like your bumper sticker.
Truth is after he's done we won't have much spare change.

aThEist (12:57)
Interesting observation (that women are attracted to cold disdain). Probably something to it, as it fits with the hystrionic personality that SOME women do indulge.

Wonder what the feminists have to say about this. Must embarrass them no end.

Personally, I find it embarrassing that people of either sex in this country are emoting and gushing about "hope" as if they were in some oppressed destitute situation. None of the Obamanators are remotely in need of anything (well maybe counseling, or a smack upside the head).
They all disgrace themselves.

Is he him?
People have written very, very scary works of fiction about the ignorant masses going totally hysterical about a silver tongued, charlatan clown emerging from almost out of nowhere. Could this fake, phony, fraud, Obama, be the real Anti-Christ?

SunThe1 (5:55 pm)
Excellent! Exactly.

"Hope"? "Hope" for what exactly? "Hope" for more taxes? "Hope" for stickin' it to the rich and getting something for nothing? Oh, wait...I know...it's "hope" for the ever-popular, liberal siren call of utopia.


Obama Lies

I sure hope the Republicans and McCain were taping that debate last night in Texas.
Obama is an out and out liar but the hate America panel and audience didn't say a peep.
Obama stated he met a corporal or something that had been in Afghanistan. The officer told Obama his unit should be 39 but 15 had to go to Iraq.
The officer stated they were sent to Afghanistan with no vehicles or weapons. He said they had to capture prisoners in order to get weapons and ammunition.
McCain needs to use that tape and confront Obama with this lie against our military. Unbelievable.

the pied piper of the left
Shrillary got terribly unlucky. The 'Crats desperately wanted to win the W. H. back... she was the MSM choice, so the libs rallied behind her as the presumptive favorite, until almost out of nowhere a new liberal messiah surfaced who was even teflon-colored to boot. Obama is one slick operator-- he has managed to say almost nothing specific, but has not been pressed on it or on his #1 most liberal voting record and nonexistent relevant track record because he is playing a different hand.

Seriously, if he were white, his candidacy would be a joke. Ask an Obama supporter to tell you what Hussein would do on three issues of importance to her/him, then explain how he would pay for the largess. But Presidente Jorge and Congress have stunk up Washington even more so than the usual low standards, so America is angry and hungry for "change." [But really, where's the beef?!]

Obama Lies
I just saw on Fox News the military is coming after Obama on the statement I referenced earlier.

Obama Lies
I just saw on Fox News the military is coming after Obama on the statement I referenced earlier.

the military are not going any where
the story has been confirmed by CNN and ABC News;

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/from-the-fa ct-3.html

Obama is the Antichrist
Nothing else can explain his messianic effect on a purportedly "educated" populace.

Who's going to believe CNN and ABC ?
everyonesfacts writes: Friday, February, 22, 2008 9:21 PM
the military are not going any where
the story has been confirmed by CNN and ABC News;
In you dreams. No such thing. He made a big blunder.

john doe
I hope that is satire.

Or is it the moonbattery of the right?

everyonesfacts - Obama's in big trouble
Posted by: don | Feb 22, 2008 9:57:55 PM


This story (that's what it amounts to) doesn't add up. First, you don't split infantry platoons by individuals to deploy. We haven't done that since Vietnam. You don't split a platoon at all. And 10th Mountain Division? One of the most well equipped units in the Army, but its a LIGHT infantry division trained/equipped for mountain warfare. Meaning, its not going to have a lot of heavy weaponry prior to deployment because it doesn't need it great quantities.

Second, the 15 or so men that left the platoon in "ones and twos" sound more like they were conducting a permanent change of station, meaning they WERE MOVING TO OTHER UNITS THAT MIGHT OF DEPLOYED TO IRAQ. Holy crap, the ignorance of the media of their own military and how we function, operate, and maintain is not surprising... it just is what it is.

This story is bogus.

Me? Eight year active duty Army. Staff sergeant who deployed to Iraq. We weren't even a combat arms unit and we got everything you could ask for and more.


lula, et. al.
read the comments.

Active and former military disagree with your pov.

My 3 bros who served in Iraq, can't say they agree with you.
Can say they are Repubs and thought the military would vote majority
for whoever would pull out of Iraq 1st.

I'm not sure what you think the military would do to Obama anyways?

everyonesfacts
Someone who wants to be commander of our military should check his facts first before making such an uninformed statement about our military.
I also have many relatives in the military serving and they joined the military to serve their country. They knew going in this could mean going to war. They have told me too many people join just looking for what the military can do for them. So sometimes it comes as a shock that they would actually have to serve their country and fight.
They strongly disagree with your brothers.
As for what can the military do to Obama ? Demand a public apology.

lula may
they join to protect the country and the constitution.

they to a man had no problem with Afghanistan they had a problem with
Iraq. Don't assume.

Nuff said.

There is a post on the right side to check of this page:
Fact Check: Obama's Platoon Story

It seems Obama will turn the facts over IF the soldier allows him to.

Obama Lies
Yeah right.

Obama Lies
Like I said he should check the facts before making the statement condemning our military.

Hope vs Faith
Hope leads people to sit back and let someone else do it for them. Faith is being so positive about something as to ACT upon it. As in, do something for yourself, instead of wanting the government to do it for you. I heard Comeona say something about how a turning point in his life was when he learned to take personal responsibility for his actions. The next sentence out of his messianic mouth was about how he will provide health care for everyone, leading people to believe they do not have to work hard for a living, he will provide. Nostrils McDammus said 'he will come out of the east, wearing a blue(Democrat) turban(Muslim early core value forming education) about the ...................... antichrist.

everyonesfacts
I was agreeing with this:

FairnessMan writes: Friday, February, 22, 2008 6:46 PM
Is he him?
People have written very, very scary works of fiction about the ignorant masses going totally hysterical about a silver tongued, charlatan clown emerging from almost out of nowhere. Could this fake, phony, fraud, Obama, be the real Anti-Christ?

I'm not Christian, but maybe the description fits?

"If This Goes On..."
Google it - 'nuff said.

radicalrightwinger
Oh yeah, I guess you nailed it on the high hopes! (Or is it the hopes of the high?)

Obama Lies
I'm just amazed he would repeat such a story denigrating our U.S. Military. The same military he wants to be Commander in Chief of.
Well as you can see from Fox news he has been rejected profoundly by that military.
This may play well with the left wing loonies but, the rest of America is sickened by this slander.

Obama Lies
Sounds like some of those left wing loonies made a wrong turn onto this site. You should have turned far,far left for Air America.


I'm just amazed he would repeat such a story denigrating our U.S. Military. Without fact checking. The same military he wants to be Commander in Chief of.
Well as you can see from Fox news he has been rejected profoundly by that military.
This may play well with the left wing loonies but, the rest of America is sickened by this slander.

So far he's had it easy
Some of that haughty swagger that the swooners find so attractive may wear off when he's not debating a woman.

Lula
CNN found the actual person that Barak was referring and he confirmed the story.

Get used to it.

Obama : #1 Liberal Loser
President Obama will become the biggest Democratic failure of all time. He will surpass Jimmy Carter on the incompetence scale. Be careful about criticizing him, however, because you will be labeled a racist despite the substantive merits of your complaints. Welcome to the Liberal Democratic Socialist World of Political Correctness and President Obama!

Lula
Excuse me but I listened to the CNN journalist who spoke to that person on the phone.

He explained in detail exactly what the man (who did not want to be identified because he is still serving in Afghanistan) said, word for word - they made a transcription.

Grow up.

CNN
Followed up on the story because of what FOX was putting out there to gullible viewers.

Lula M
Obama has never condemned the military and you know it.

Are you drinking on duty?

lula may
"Now they are trying to elect a gay admitted crackhead."

So when you have been proven wrong, you resort to smear tactics??

Sad.

Tampa
What's so amazing is that you represent the very voters who gave us eight years of George Bush 9 electing him twice, for God's sake - why would anything you (all) have to say about any candidate suddenly be reliable?

Bush is leaving the next person massive debt, a recession that probably will go deeper than any in 40 years, a military stretched thin by an unending war, a corroded image everywhere in the world, a legacy of torture and corruption of legal and human rights, a southern border that has become nothing but a turnstyle for illegal travellers, and a Byzantine government that acts in secrecy and deception.

Why would anyone, right, left, or sideways, place confidence in anything a few TH columnists and posters have to say about any candidate whatsoever?

\\we've already seen how conservative appraisals end up.

Robert
Yes, you're right, I'm guessing that you heard the same piece - the guy that CNN talked to elaborated on a few of the points, but in each case it was not a lie so much as the kind of thing that happens anytime any of us repeat what someone has told us, anywhere.

The meat was all true, and the subject was quoted as saying that the experience "was sobering and left him still bitter."

(See, an example, I can't really remember if he actually used the word "sobering" but the quote is essentially accurate).

Here's how misinformation
gets passed on:

The Headline to this column uses the "word" "ecstacy" which doesn't exist, but which has been repeated by at least 13 posters on this thread.

I suspect Parker meant "ecstasy", but well, what theheck? sounding good is good enough, right?

calm.Touj writes:
Sorry your wrong. He did smear our U.S. military by putting out this story from anonymous sources. Sounds like he's getting his talking points from the NY Times.
CNN and the liberals love any smear against this Greatest Country on God's Green Earth and our U.S. Military.
As for me slandering Obama. Read his book and Check with Larry Sinclair (not anonymous)about the gay Islamic crackhead.

calm.Touj writes:
Sorry your wrong. He did smear our U.S. military by putting out this story from anonymous sources. Sounds like he's getting his talking points from the NY Times.
CNN and the liberals love any smear against this Greatest Country on God's Green Earth and our U.S. Military.
As for me slandering Obama. Read his book and Check with Larry Sinclair (not anonymous)about the gay Islamic crackhead.

Lula
You're a real piece of work.

I suspect you're really a trolling, demented liberal trying to make conservatives look bad.






back to the real world
why didn't any of you care about experience, integrity, brains, when you elected George Bush?

calm.Touj
Like I said you guys took a wrong turn. Air America and NPR are 5 turns to the left. Your liberal talking points will be challenged here.

obama and the military
Obama wants troops to be fully equipped and staffed when deployed.

Our troops will support this I assure you.

Lula Mae has been proven to be a one post phenom and the facts don't
change her opinion. Every one is entitled to their own opinion but not
their own facts

lula may
"As for me slandering Obama. Read his book and Check with Larry Sinclair (not anonymous)about the gay Islamic crackhead."

Dude, you have got to be kidding me. I read his memoir where he described snorting cocaine, not crack (there is a difference) over 30 years ago while in high school. As for Larry Sinclair, you really are searching in the trashbin now aren't you? You believe a person who has been discredited and exposed as a liar. Wow!

Ralph Ellison
As for Larry Sinclair, you really are searching in the trashbin now aren't you? You believe a person who has been discredited and exposed as a liar. Wow!

Discredited by whom ? Lefty loons ?
Larry is taking a lie detector test Tuesday that will be posted on U-Tube. We'll then see who's lying.

Lula
Why am I not surprised that your source for reliable information is U-tube?

"Crack-smokin' Metrosexual" ...

That's one way to prove your a Democrat.

Carlos
""Crack-smokin' Metrosexual" ...

That's one way to prove your a Democrat'



Well, now I understand why U-Tube is so successful - it would appear that the majority of conservative intellectuals are getting their source material there.

Way too boring, bye.

Touj. writes:
It's more reliable than your anonymous sources. At least Larry's more of a man than your so called soldier.
Anyone can have anonymous sources. For instance: I have an anonymous source that says Obama likes 13 year old boys. My guy can't come out(I"m sure you understand)because this would damage his career and family.
Point being you, Obama and the liberal rags can print any anonymous sources you want. But until that so called person mans up and stops hiding behind anonymity it don't make it so.
Even then by your own standards(Larry Sinclair)that still don't make it true.

lula may
You're a fool.

Both ABC and NBC checked out the story with the Captain and found that everything Obama said is 100% accurate.Yes, they got weapons from the Taliban. Yes, they had only 24 people in the platoon because some went off to Iraq.

You're the one who needs to check your "facts".

And that crackhead stuff? Wow. You've been hanging out at some freaky websites haven't you?

Phylo out.

Now, Now...

Let's stop the slander of Obama...

And start talking "One America" (reparations).

We will need plenty of revenue (Cash)....

May I propose a $2 per gallon gas tax. A $100 per month tax on those earning over $10 per hour. A $20 per vehicle toll on every interstate. Repeal tax credits on children who are not eligible for "One America". Disbanding the Marine Corps. Cancelling the racist border fence funding...

Anything others can add to help the cause?

sorry calm
calm.Touj writes: Saturday, February, 23, 2008 12:04 PM
Lula
Excuse me but I listened to the CNN journalist who spoke to that person on the phone.

He explained in detail exactly what the man (who did not want to be identified because he is still serving in Afghanistan) said, word for word - they made a transcription.

Grow up.

the story kind of contradicts itself. On one side, this officer is retired, the other says he won't identify himself because he is still active duty?

There are many other that have commented about this statement that shows it to be full in inaccuracies. You better do some more research.

The main point of this is that Obama is out there talking about national security issues that have no place in the public domain. He in no way deserves to be Commander in Chief.

Chicago style
I mentioned this before. I have been raised with Chicago Democratic politics.
Obama was never embraced here in the black neighborhoods. In fact he lost to Bobby Rush. An black panther. Black people always thought he was phony and more than a little sissy. Lakefront liberals put him where he's at.
But he's still phony and more than a little sissy.

Obama's real identity
Don't say this too loud, but there's a new theory about Obama. He's really an alien sent to bring chaos to the U.S. by getting into the White House. Every night he has to step into his regeneration chamber to keep him looking human. He emits mind-altering brain waves that turn people into his devoted followers, so make sure you put those aluminum foil hats on if he comes to your town.

Too much
This article was a little too tongue-and-cheek for my taste.

Great article
Great article. The amount of people who are voting for Barack and don't know why is staggering. Then again, I voted for Reagan twice and when I think back can't understand why. Yeah, he made us feel great and stuck it to the russians but as far as running the country, what a freakin disaster. And even realizing that, I probably would vote for him again if given the chance.

Same with Bush, I voted for him for security even though I'm sure he's probably done more to make this blessed country even less secure. No president has had this kind of impact on the next presidency (or two or three) than Kennedy deciding to go to Vietnam. My prayers go to McCain when he gets stuck with the job.

And who knows, perhaps we can finally get a Conservative who can balance a budget for a change.

Style
Carlos,
I love you style. Go get those left wing loons. It's time Republicans stood up to these lying nuts. Stop cowering Republicans.
Like I said they made the wrong turn. I suspect they are payed by the DNC to monitor conservative sites.

No Hysteria in the Machine
Hysteria is as hysteria does. Frank Rich's article "The Audacity of Hopelessness" NYT 2-24 (You can google the article) points out that while Hillary's campaign has been a chaotic mess, overspending and running out of money and campaign directors frantically trying strategies that contradict each other, Obama's campaign has been running "like a well-oiled machine". It is solvent, raises plenty of money, manages the money well, and consistently follows a plan that works. Turns out the Empty Suit is a very competent politician.

OH-bama!
Obama's style may be creepy, but the people's response is downright frightening.

Hispanic V.P.
Sorry Carlos I typo. I meant to say your style.
On another subject. Press are reporting Condi has said no to the V.P. spot. How about Linda Chavez ?

lula may...

This is pure comedy/tragedy!

I compare this race to Chicken-Shack?

A full order of Left wings w/French fries(Obama)?

Or a half-order of Left wings w/Onion rings(McCain)?

What did we do to deserve this :)


Carlos
Yes, but you have to admit. Gotta love aggravating the lefties.
I think I smell Axelrod here. Last time I met him he was a loser old hippie that needed a bath and could use a shampoo.
And that was 6 months ago.

lula may &carlos
The army says it will come after Mr.Obama.For what and by whom?I know that the "HATE" which occupies your heart has clouded your "Small" brain,but there is help.First ask yourself this simple question.What will it profit Mr. Obama and his capaign to make such a statement?Every person knows,that he was against the war,from the beginning.Was this story an embellishment,which would equivocate the running of the army.At this point in the campaign,your information must be directly connected to your opponent.The remarks were meant to show how we have misplaced our effort.This criticism belongs to Mr. Bush,that is irrefutable.Yes,even a Harvard Educated Lawyer knows that.You represent the WORST of America,I begrudge being a republican,because of people like YOU!

killer...

I have no idea what you just wrote?

But, thanks if you were making a compliment.


Alice...
I agree: "the people's response is downright frigtening". What is wrong with half of this country when they applaud a man who is blowing his nose?

What does he get for picking it? A standing ovation?

This is really sick.

Losers
Killer, it's called the Democrat primary. So Obama is playing to the lefties. Trying to once again get the nutty (Bush is the devil) loons in a feeding frenzy.
Now that wasn't so hard to figure out ?

CC....
I like your last post 2:22pm:

"What does he get for picking it? A standing ovation?"

Yeah, your right, he would get a standing ovation. Leftists will swoon and vote for anyone or anything that breathes, sneezes, burps, or farts as long as it has a (D, for Dimwit) at the end of their name.

Crawfish...
Thank you!

OTHERWISE ENGAGED
Cold Hard Truth writes:

"Nose

"What? You mean YoMama blew his OWN nose?

Why wasn't the giddy 'I felt a thrill go up my leg' Chris Matthews there to blow it for him?"

Like most of the media Osama hagiographers, Matthews was probably too busy blowing something else ...

The absence of Doom and Gloom
Why should the Republicans have all the fun during the campaign trial of McCain. Hillary even admitted, she's intense and upset all the time, and so are those who attend her speeches. Even when Hillary tries to put on a happy face, her real self seems to come out all the time. The eyes, the look, the intense staring into the crowds to make sure they don't switch their votes for Obama, and her old school liberal socialist way of thinking. It's going to take more then switching from the Universal Health Care front, to the National Security Challenges she doesn't think Obama is ready to handle if elected, to change the smiles to frowns. What's wrong with Obama's rhetoric? What's wrong with the people being happy for a change in the Democrat party? What's wrong with wanting to get away from the old school politics, in how their own voters see their own party. How is Obama abandoning the core Democrat principles by not talking like or acting like Hillary?

Liberals
I still can't understand why liberals come here ?
Don't they have blogs on Air America or NPR ? Why are you here ?

Obama : #1 Liberal Loser
Hypothetical: Obama becomes the President.

If he has a successful administration, America and its citizenry win, plain and simple. I will gladly applaud Obama.

If Obama fails, like Jimmy Carter, he will become the Democratic embodiment of defective liberal ideology. The Democrats will lose Congress and cede the White House to the GOP for decades to come. The Republicans will govern once again.

Either way I will smile.

Democrat Politicians
I'm going to let you in on a little secret. Democrat politicians can't stand their constituents.
I have said before I was raised on Chicago Democrat politics. Most of these guys are only Democrats because that's the only way you can get elected in Chicago.
Do they believe all the democrat campaign propaganda they spout? Absolutely not.
Most are conservative and hate their constituents because all they want are handouts. Welfare, healthcare, foodstamps(WIN card)and all their free social programs. This especially includes those dam old seniors with their hands out.
They are never satisfied.
Republicans politicians probably have some of the same problems but not to the extent of democrats.

lula may ...

Nicely said. So very true!

Our Pro-abortion Michigan Governor holds some special position in the Catholic Church. She is actually a Super-Catholic, which puts her well into the league of Far-Right Christians.

If Liberal voters here realized she was a "Religious Fanatic", they'd throw her out tomorrow.

Funny, the Catholic Church no longer holds members accountable for voting pro-abortion or impugning the faith.

Strange Days Indeed :)

To lula may
You forgot to mention that when Obama ran for Illinois Senator against (black) Alan Keyes, Obama got 70% of the vote and Alan Keyes got 27%. When the two of them campaigned in Chicago appearing together at a rally on Devon Avenue, Chicago's Indian-Pakistani commercial street, the crowd was so menacing to Keyes that he had to take refuge in his car, while they adored Obama.

A Couple of Observations
Having read through this entire thread, I have a couple of observations.

1) You-all would be most awfully glad if this charismatic orator were on your side.

2) While you weren't paying attention, it has come to the attention of the media that Obama can do something besides talk: he can run a campaign, which is very much like a large business. The Obama campaign is said to be running like a well-oiled machine. Its focus is steady (unlike Hillary's, where tactics change on a daily basis). Its staff all moves in the same direction (unlike Hillary's people, who appear to be The Three Stooges). It is fiscally solvent (unlike Hillary's, which spent so much on donuts and other junk that she ran out of money and had to fork over $5 million of her own money). It is successful (he has taken 24 states and made steady inroads on his opponent's best people). Washington DC should only run like Obama's campaign.

3) We are a two-party nation. Some of you seem to think that "conservative" means "normal" and "liberal" means "abnormal" and that anyone not conservative is a traitor to the United States. Not so. Go take Civics 101 somewhere.

To Lula re "Why Do Liberals Come Here?"
First, let's wonder why you are asking that question. Townhall is a forum, a place for discussion and debate. Are you saying that you want people around you only if they agree with you? Then discussion will be only a Parrot Chorus or a hall of mirrors, and there will be no debate.

Second, why are we liberals here? I can speak only for myself. I come to townhall to learn what others are thinking and sometimes to let them know what I am thinking. I don't actually know many conservatives and townhall has given me a chance to get to know more about "the other half" of this country. And I come here because townhall is a beautifully-run website, nicely kept and edited---I don't know of a better one. It's a pleasure to be here, and I consider the editors most gracious to allow me (for conservatives, a heretic!) to be their guest.

Third, I harbor a belief that the ways in which we are the same are more important than the ways in which we are different. On this political board we sometimes yell at each other, but I truly think that if we were neighbors we would be finding each other's lost dog and baking cookies for each other's sick child. Sometimes in this political hurricane as we are swept around by the wind and water our eyes meet for just a minute, and we are reminded of our common humanity. I love those encounters.

Re: lilly
lilly the liberal,

We could chase each other's dogs and bake each other cookies all day long. But at the end of the day, liberals are still wrong. Their ideas are weak pie-in-the-sky fluff that crumble every time they (the ideas) get hit with a good dose of reality. No, it is precisely our differences that matter, because these differences determine the future of our way of life.
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