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Monday, March 02, 2009
Karin Agness :: Townhall.com Columnist
Are Hookups Killing College Romance?
by Karin Agness
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College freshmen quickly learn that "hooking up" means engaging in a physical relationship with someone who you may or may not have known beforehand and with whom you have little or no expectation of a future relationship. The last few years have been especially big years for hooking up, not because college students are hooking up more, but because academics, journalists, and doctors have begun writing about it.

Among others, recent titles include: Unhooked: How Young Women Pursue Sex, Delay Love and Lose at Both by Laura Sessions Stepp; Hooking Up: Sex, Dating, and Relationships on Campus by Kathleen Bogle; Sex and the Soul: Juggling Sexuality, Spirituality, Romance and Religion on America's College Campuses by Donna Freitas; and Unprotected: A Campus Psychiatrist Reveals How Political Correctness in Her Profession Endangers Every Student by an anonymous M.D.

These authors are finally figuring out that hooking up is not an isolated experience of a few college students, or a fad. Rather, the hookup culture dominates college campuses. The authors use different methodologies and analyze hooking up from their own perspectives. They all conclude that hooking up has serious negative consequences for women, whether in the form of sexually transmitted diseases, infertility, depression, or problems with trust in future relationships.

Surveys, interviews, and statistics have convinced these authors of such dangers. Despite the evidence, many college women have not taken notice.

Valentine's Day is supposed to be a day of celebrating love, romance, and the sweetheart in your life. Yet, for many college women, it only serves as a reminder of the lack of love, romance, and sweethearts in their lives. I witnessed this firsthand when I walked past our famous frozen yogurt place at the University of Virginia -- Arch's -- on Valentine's Day one year when the holiday fell on a weekday.

Usually, this popular frozen yogurt stop has a constant flow of people. But on that Valentine's Day, something was different. You might have thought Arch's was giving away its famous frozen yogurt for free, because the line stretched out the door.

The inside was different also. Instead of individuals or pairs picking up their treats and leaving, groups of three, four, and five women were filling tables, enjoying their "Death By Chocolate" (chocolate frozen yogurt, gooey brownies, and chocolate sauce), "Cherry Bombs" (chocolate frozen yogurt, Oreos, and cherries), and other combinations of vanilla or chocolate frozen yogurt with sweets.

I went inside and overheard more than one young woman complaining about some guy and the lack of dating on campus. They put the blame on the guys, apparently oblivious to their likely complicity in the current hookup arrangements. Since Valentine's Day fell on a Saturday this year, these same conversations were likely happening in bars instead of dessert places.

These women were having a girls' night at Arch's, and certainly those can be a lot of fun. Yet, many of those women are likely the same women who are hooking up with guys and calling it no big deal the next day. In Unhooked, Stepp cites studies showing that almost 80 percent of undergraduates had hooked up.

Freitas finds that even if students are not hooking up that much, they think others are, so hooking up has gained dominance on campus. It is not all the guys' fault; women are partially responsible for the campus culture.

The hookup culture is a tough competitor. Many women are tempted by the instant gratification of a hookup. Even headlines such as "Study: One-Fourth of NYC Residents Have Herpes" from last July seem abstract and are ignored with an it-won't-happen-to-me attitude. Yet, days like Valentine's Day might be able to do more to change the college campuses than scary statistics.

While these young women sit in a dessert shop complaining about men and their lack of a love life, it becomes all too apparent that as much fun as they have hooking up with guys, hooking up is all it is. It is not a real relationship.

Hookups do not buy you flowers, bring you candy, or take you out to dinner.

While men may be content with the hookup culture, it poses special problems for women. Not only are women more likely to end up with a sexually transmitted disease than men, they more quickly tire of the sex without commitment. Instead of leaving women empowered, liberated and fulfilled, it ends up leaving women disappointed, confused, and hurt.

By participating in the hookup culture, women continue to perpetuate it, and this discourages dating.

If books documenting the harmful consequences of the hookup culture on women are not enough to convince more young women to stop, then maybe Feb. 14 did the trick this year or will do so next year. Valentine's Day should be a wake-up call to all young women that they should rethink the hookup culture and their active participation in it.

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Another problem with Women's Lib
Every thing the Women's Lib tried has ended in sadness for the women involved. Sure we get better jobs, more sex, abortions and independence. Is that what we really want? Are we happier?

Originally it was "burn the bras". That resulted in more pornography and being treated as things rather than thinking women.

It Is Demographics
Listen my brothers and sisters on the right. The Hookup culture has nothing to do with culture. It has to do with demographics.

When the number of women in a given area exceeds the number of men by about 5% or more you get women gone wild.

It is a matter of competition.

It is really past time that opinions of my fellow anti-socialists had a scientific basis.

From Dad to His Daughter's Date
If I find out you tried to sleep with my daughter with this hook-up thing, I'm going to break your legs.

You might think you have no worries if she decides to get drunk and sleep with you, but I'm telling you if I find out, tough guy, I'm going to put you in a hospital.

Dad's who think it's their responsibility to protect our daughters, still exist. I'm 50, and in better shape than most of you beer drinking, television hooked, liberal professor-brainwashed idiots.

You attempt to sleep with my daughter at your own risk, and if you think you can handle me, you won't be able to handle her brother & I together.

I never fight fair. BE WARNED.

Fluck off Hal Doop a Hue
cheers

svpallava
Yeah? So what?

You mean that once a subject is touched upon on TH it is inelligible for mentioning again?

Wouldn't it be nice if social problems were so easily rectified, huh?

THIS IS NOT HAL DONAHUE'S WEBSITE!!!!!
SJ Doc said Hal was a useful idiot and responding was wise. I thought I'd give it a shot however, I have decided to stick with my original observation... he deserves NO REPLY!

Everytime you feed this useful idiot, he keeps posting ad nauseum. He cannot make a point AS IT RELATES to the column, say his peace, and be done with it. He is an emotional cripple who cannot deal with anyone who doesn't think as he does. It is quite obvious that he has no job and hasn't got a life either. He will bounce back and forth between each column and spew his crap ALL DAY LONG! Don't believe me? Hit "ctrl" "f" and type in his name. It appears more than the word conservative!

THIS IS NOT HIS PERSONAL BLOG PAGE BUT YOU ARE ALL ENABLING HIM TO MAKE IT ONE!!!! If he wants a place of his own on the web let the b'tard go hire someone to create one if he can't do it!

FLAG EVERY ONE OF HIS POSTS AND DON'T RESPOND TO THIS WORLD CLASS A**HOLE!

NO Safe SEX....stranger sex instead....?
Add to this "Hook Up" culture or better yet...."Free Hookers" culture.......many women are evening having children for these men who will not marry them and help support all of them as a family. Hey, can you blame the guys???? They can't even be sure that baby is theirs without a costly DNA test being done. I don't know what that costs but last I heard it was about $3,800.....ooops!!!....to much just to find out the women you might be marrying a girl who slept around with everyone and anyone......with guys she wasn't even dating for a period of time and even knows a little bit...........including you.....but you stepped up to marry her. GREAT! We have known for many yrs. that 70% of black babies are born out of wedlock.......and look how well that has worked out for them. Add to this the 25 - 28% of young women catching all the STDs out there which burns up their fallopian tubes making them basically steril.
Well, the good news is they won't be having to get an abortion or having those wanted babies.......and they can continue to live a life of "hooking up" without the headaches of being in a commited relationship. (I am jesting.) Somewhere about age 35 - 40 they can pull out a gun and shoot themselves...... before they die of ovarian, cervical, uterine or fallopian tube cancer which is more often....not exclusively..... related to women who are promiscuous. It seems the HPV virus is present 82% of the time.......which they caught from one of all those men who had no symptoms at all......no visible ones. Maybe there are some consequences for men as well......we now see that 1 in 3 men will get prostate cancer by age over 65...??? Could there be a connection???? Dunno!!! NO male medical researchers will report about that. Say anything; ..... but don't say; "Don't Have Strange SEX." For some reason prostate cancer seems to be on the rise as well.
Your husband will tell you if is from NOT having enough sex.

HOOK UPS ( 2 )
WHAT IF YOUR PERFECT SOMEONE IS RIGHT UNDER YOUR NOSE . MAYBE SOMEONE YOU KNEW FOR A WHILE----YOUR BEST FRIEND . BUT YOU THOUGHT WELL MY TOES DIDN ' T CURL AND I DIDN ' T SEE FIREWORKS IN 10 SECONDS . THAT PERSON ISN ' T FOR ME-FOREWORKS ARE GREAT-EVERYONE WANTS THAT BUT THEN YOU GET IT . YOU FIND OUT AS ALL LITTLE CHILDREN KNOW AT SOME TIME THE FOREWORKS ARE OVER . BUILDING A FIREWORK TYPE RELATIONSHIP IS DOABLE FOR A LIFE TIME --CHEMISTRY FOREVER CAN BE DONE BUT TAKES WORK OUT OF THE BEDROOM . DO YOUR OWN WORK AND IT IS HARD WORK YOU BET . BEING A COUPLE--MEANS SACREFICE FOR THE OTHER PERSON BOTH GIVING 110 % . SAY THE ONE YOU WERE MENT TO BE WITH SEES YOU HOOKING UP WITH TOD THE TOAD . ALWAYS COOL-CAPITAIN OF THE FOOTBALL TEAM MR. POPULAR . BUT OF THE FIELD HE IS A WOMEN ABUSING--DRUNK WITH MOMMY ISSUES . JUST FOR INSTANCE . MOST I KNOW ARE OKAY MOSTLY . YOUR DREAM BOAT WILL SAIL ON AND YOU NEVER NEW HE WAS IN YOUR HARBOR . SO YOU DIDN ' T TURN ON YOUR HARBOR LIGHT HIM . HOW SAD !!!
I COUNSEL PREMARRIAGE COUPLES SO I KNOW A LOT MORE THAN MOST AND WILLING TO LEARN MORE . ARE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE NOT COMMUNICATING NEEDS INTERESTS--NOT EVEN TO GIRL--FRIENDS--BOYFRIENDS--MOM--DAD . I CAN TEACH YOU HOW TO COMMUNICATE-----REMOVE THE MYTHS OF LOVE AND MARRIAGE---FALSE EXPECTATIONS . BEFORE YOU GET MARRIED THIS YEAR YOU NEED TO KNOW THIS .
GOD BLESS YOU-----PASTOR JOHN
UNIVERSAL LIFE CHURCH , 2301 W . PACIFIC AVE . , SUITE # 101 , SPOKANE , WA . 99201-5856

Too much
...but then the hand guns themselves can't be held completely responsible--it did take a person to actually aim and fire it...


HOOK UPS
UNFORTUNITLY WE HAVE A SOCIETY--NOT JUST COLLEGE FRESHMEN . OUR YOUNG PEOPLE CAN ' T MAKE A REAL CONNECTION PERIOD OR EVALUATE THE PEOPLE . THAT THEY MEET BY WHATS IN FOR THEM IF THEY BELIEVE YOU ARE NOT RELIVENT TO THEIR LIVES . YOU ARE SHUNNED BY THEM OFTEN BASING YOUR VALUE ON LOOKS . THEN COMES THE JUDGEMENT THAT YOUR WORTH AS A PERSON IS BASED ON LOOKS . THE HANDSOME GUY WELL HE MUST BE ALL KINDS OF GOOD FOR THEM TO KNOW--TALK TO . AND YOU KNOW THE OTHERSIDE OF THE COIN JUST AS UNTRUE .
MOST WOMEN AT THAT AGE( I HAVE WORKED WITH THIS AGE GROUP AND HAVE SEVERAL NEICES) . SLEEPING WITH SOMEONE DOES HAVE EMOTIONAL ATTACHMENTS---THEY NEVER VOICE THEM . NOT BEING HONEST WITH THEMSELVES----GUYS DO IT TO BUT THE LADYS ARE THE MAJORITY HERE . ON TOP OF THAT 98% OF WOMEN --AT ANY AGE--HAVE DADDY ISSUES . WITH DIVORSE ON THE RISE AND SINCE BAD FINANCES ARE THE NUMBER ONE ARGUEMENT AND KILLER OF MARRIAGES . CHILDREN ARE GOING WITH OUT DAD ' S AND MOM IS HURT SO SHE WANTS TO GET EVEN AND USE THE KIDS TO KEEP THEM FROM THE DAD . THAT IS THE MAJORITY . DADS THAT DON ' T WANT TO BE DADS ARE THE SMALL MINORITY .
SO NOW IT BEGS THE QUESTION : WHAT IS LOVE??? WHAT DOES A HOOK--UP MEAN TO REAL LOVE . I KNOW THAT EVERY ONE WANTS A PERFECT ROMANCE AND MARRIAGE .

hookup
Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free ?

The hookup president
Thank you, Mr.Clinton, for empowering the Elementary and Junior High school students to embrace one of the lasting remnants of your morally challenged administration. The Hookup was born in the Oval Office, oral sex became not sex, and now the kids who heard and read about it being ok for the President, with no consequences for his actions - are now in college and beyond fostering the same attitudes as Clinton demonstrated when they were younger. How are we not surprised? And these kids are blind if they don't see the connection.

http://nymike.blogtownhall.com/

In vitro fetilization is the price of
the hookup culture for young women who contract pelvic inflammation or other chronic veneral diseases they are unaware of until at 36 or 38, they decide to *settle down* and have a child only to find they have blocked fallopian tubes or unproductive ovaries.

A three-round treatment of in vitro costs upwards of $50,000 (think of that when you read of Octomom), virtually all cash as almost no ins. covers anything except very routine lab work, and takes up to a year to fulfill and may not produce a pregnancy or a pregnancy that goes to term.

Men and women have to ask themselves if the $100,000 in vitro will cost in 20 years is worth that drunken choice at 3 am.

Virginius (and others here):
Men once were held to a high standard as well as women. A man who made frequent runs to a prostitute were disliked even by other men. But as women (girls) lowered their standards the boys were happy to engage because they hadn't learned their own standards. There are still young men (and women) who maintain standards. The trouble is finding each other. To those of you looking, good luck. To those of you who want to "play around" while looking, forget it. You will have to end up settling for someone just like you - and probably divorce within a couple of years. Even if you do end up with a spouse who has maintained their standards, it is very unlikely you will bring your own standards up to match their's. Instead you will 'forget', get caught, and get divorced. Sorry. Learn before you try to live instead of live and learn.

Sex and Love
The youth (school and college) treat sex and love as two different things. Many believe it is. They enjoy sex but expect love to be much more. When they do marry, they still consider sex to be seperate from love. And many do not understand why their spouse should object if they continue to "hook up" with others after they are married.

But sex reinforces love. It is a major part of love and committment depends upon it. Psychologist have found that even the elderly remain in love IF they continue to enjoy and participate in sex. But with most of the youth, sex and love are different things because they are taught by peers, movies, etc. that it is different - when it really isn't. Unlike Karin, who has a woman's view of it, men are as interested in love and committment as a woman does (although possibly at a later age). BUt committment doesn't come easy when both partners continue to hook up with others while they are still feeling out their committment to each other, thinking sex is separate.

It will continue to be a major problem as long as the youth continue to believe sex means nothing but fun.

CollegiateSex-Ed

Some people are actually doing something about this, rather than just bemoaning it. Check out this uplifting article by Ryan T. Anderson. Princeton students have formed the Anscombe Society, and other schools are following their example.

http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/viewarticle.php?selecteda rticle=2009.02.03.001.pdart

Delayed loss
It's not enough to emphasize purity and the gift of one's virginity to his or her spouse. There are real consequences involved in hooking up. Those consequence don't always strike the person who did it, either.

Consider the case of a man who once slept around. He's now married to a woman who didn't. Imagine his devastation when she contracts an STD from him that he never knew he had. The article mentions herpes, but it doesn't mention that many - if not most - people who have it will never know. It complicates pregnancies. When transmitted from mother to child during delivery, it often kills.

Parents need to emphasize to sons that their choices today can endanger the health and lives of their family later. And to girls, is a fling today worth the potential loss of your future child? There's a lot more at stake than emotional baggage of failed romance.

Mother of 4
Please, please don't give in to group speak! You say "We have created a culture..." WE haven't done that and I assume you haven't either. Don't buy into the collective responsibility PC crap!

Karin: I see you are still a child in law school. Kudos to you kiddo but, please, write about something that matters politically on Townhall. It appears you are just learning what all of us adults already know. You need to find a better forum for your crusade. (I see you already head up a women's group of some sort.) Although I am a woman, I refuse to see myself as part of ANY group, especially one who has been taken advantage of by those "bad" men. Anything I ever do with a man is by mutual consent. There is no taking advantage when they both say yes. If college aged girls need you or other writers to lecture them it is apparent that their parents didn't do the job. It's not yours however! BTW, what did you do on Valentines Day?

Times Change
It used to be that women that Hooked were selling it, now they are giving it away. Why don't they call it "Slutting Up"? The President must be very upset about this since by giving it away women are taking away a good source of income for other women. Our economy cannot last if people give away a service that others make money doing. Just think of all the starving runaway teenagers that will no longer have a source of income. But the girls don't have to worry, they can now abort their babies even at birth, thanks to electing our new President.


So Sad!
I have 7th and 8th grade girl students in alternative school because they were caught "servicing" high school boys at football games. You can blame the "Me Generation" of the 60s, television and videos,
several decades of parents who didn't properly raise the children they were blessed with, and countless women who didn't want the children they did have.

Long live hedonism!
Quit feeling sorry for the college-generation females. They're over 18 and responsible for their own actions. If they don't have enough strength of character to not jump into bed with a different male every Friday night - tough! Adult acts have adult consequences. These days it is great to be a male - all you need is a good line and your physical urges are satisfied. You don't even have to be a pretty boy jock, frat boy or "artist type." Even dirty old men get the benefit of the "hook up culture" - these young women want different types of notches on their gun handles. Gotta love it!

Mindless... loveless...
Viewed in this manner, hookups are little more than a form of mutual masterbation.

Men are Losers Too
Men are losers too in a culture where the women neglect to maintain high moral standards.

The pool of eligible women who view sex to be only allowable within the confines of marriage and with your own spouse is dwindling.

Where are those men with high standards who want to marry equally moral women to find such spouses today?

How many perfectly eligible men are out there, who have a high standard for the "purity" of their future brides, but they have no way to find them due to our shallow, Hollywood culture that predominates?

It is no wonder that the US marriage rates are so low, the divorce rates so high and our declining birthrates rates so alarming.

All US men, as well as women, have become the losers because of those gullible women who have failed to maintain the high moral standards that made the US a once-great nation.





Men are Losers Too
Men are losers too in a culture where the women neglect to maintain high moral standards.

The pool of eligible women who view sex to be only allowable within the confines of marriage and with your own spouse is dwindling.

Where are those men with high standards who want to marry equally moral women to find such spouses today?

How many perfectly eligible men are out there, who have a high standard for the "purity" of their future brides, but they have no way to find them due to our shallow, Hollywood culture that predominates?

It is no wonder that the US marriage rates are so low, the divorce rates so high and our declining birthrates rates so alarming.

All US men, as well as women, have become the losers because of those gullible women who have failed to maintain the high moral standards that made the US a once-great nation.





Loss of self respect
I am a grandmother now, and a teacher. What boggles my mind completely is how little respect the young women have for themselves now. Every day I see young ladies dressing and acting like street walkers and they are completely unaware of how they are seen by others.
When my daughters were growing up, I taught them that they had a precious gift for ONE man and that this gift could only be given ONCE. I also taught them that NO boy, no matter how nice, was worthy of that gift. They repaid me by waiting and they never regretted it. The sweetest phone call a mother can get, is that call from your daughter on her wedding night- after all your talks, she still needs to hear that last minute advice.
Young women need to re-gain the self respect and dignity they have lost. They need to be taught to respect themselves and that they are more than just a "hook up". Women, arguably, maintain and further the culture through their families and children. If they drop the ball, it's only a matter of time before we are living in caves with naugahyde and large screen tv's.
I am sure that all the non-committed young men disagree completely with me- so what? Their benefit is the girls' loss.

Article looks rather familiar
But I couldn't find it in Agness' archive in 2009 or 2008. Anyone else remember seeing an earlier TH article on the same subject?

The Quiet Men Lose at this Game
Agree with Just Another Jones - The proof is in some of the pop culture. Listen to all those male-heartbreak rock songs, sung by REO Speedwagon, The Cars, Supertramp, Moody Blues, etc. I was inept with women in college, plus a virgin. It turned out to be my greatest strength. Met a queen at age 23, still with her at 52.

Still, I must award this young lady a 5 for daring to discuss this topic.

If Young Women Buy Into Hooking Up
Then its no surprise that they bought into voting for Obama. Neither decision has been particularly good for them or our country. And I thought that the 70's were too loose.

Trivial Pursuit-divorce rate correction
Unmarried couples WHO LATER MARRY place themselves into the statistical category of the 60% of marriages that end up in the divorce couts.

Live-in unmarried couples who have multiple partners over time find it even easier to divorce when they do ultimately marry, resulting in serial marriage and divorce scenerios.

The US divorce rates now stand at 1 out of every 2 marriages as a result of the 1960's Hippie, Free-Love mania.

Hooking Up Better Than Drama
Thanks for not going to typical "it is all the fault of guys" route.

"They all conclude that hooking up has serious negative consequences for women, whether in the form of sexually transmitted diseases, infertility, depression, or problems with trust in future relationships."

Yes, but they don't care. They'd rather have the attention and the instant gratification. And if they hook up with the "right" guy, they can get pregnant "by accident" and then get child support from him that goes way beyond what is needed to raise a child.

"Valentine's Day is supposed to be a day of celebrating love, romance, and the sweetheart in your life. Yet, for many college women, it only serves as a reminder of the lack of love, romance, and sweethearts in their lives."

The guys have realized that they'd rather get the easy sex than have to shell out big bucks and lots of time and energy trying to entertain a woman who is capable of earning her own money and paying her own way. Equality, remember?

I'm convinced that fornication is wrong, even if a "relationship". What has happened is more people have dropped the pretense of a relationship, with all of the association drama, and they simply go for the fornication. It seems to make sense, especially for a demographic that is busy with studies and trying to start a career.

Women Losers in Trivial Pursuit
Any woman who thinks that "sleeping around" with men is a trivial pursuit needs to realize that she is the inevitable loser in this game.

Guillible girls who view "hooking up" as a harmless recreational activity need to look at the statistics.

Unmarried couples who choose to live with one another instantly put themselves into the statistical category of those with a 60%
chance of ending up in the divorce courts.

Each time an individual changes live-in partners the chances of divorce goes up from this 60%.

"Sleeping around" is far worse because it lacks even a whiff of commitment on the part of either participant.

One night stands sink to the same level of promiscuity found in savage cultures where women are passed around indiscriminately among the men of the tribe.

The woman loses every time with the men being the winners. Not one of the men has the legal or social obligation to provide for and protect either the woman or her offspring.

Western marriage laws with their Judeo- Christian basis are for the ultimate legal protection of the woman and her children.

Women become the losers when they view sex out of marriage as a game of trivial pursuit .




yep
graduating last year, my friends and I made bets to which freshman would get pregnant, while others usually had abortions. Most of the time we were right. There are a few of us guys though, who let our Christian beliefs lead our dating lives. I will be getting married in July. Most of the guys who sleep around usually end up alone, or in a bad marriage. good post.

And your point is?
I was a guy who went to a university in late 70s where the female to male ratio was 4:1. Few women I met were interested in long term relationships. Maybe I was just a jerk and drove them to greener pastures, but more than once I was dumped for another guy and it was clear that sex was part of the package immediately. After this happened a few times, I gave up on having a long term relationship myself, and life suddenly got a lot simpler. Looking back, I don't think too many of those women were interested in relationships; they were experimenting with their sexuality. They had serial boyfriends, whom they quickly got tired of. I knew as many, if not more, guys who got their hearts broken as the women I knew. So, from my experience, the proposition that those college age women were trading sex for affection or attention is incorrect. They were interested in having sex with or without the encumbrances of a relationship. Whether that is the case today or not, I couldn't say.

Hooking up
Karen, from the perspective of a man (68)who has been married three times, I think you are right on target. Based on what I did duting my two single times, I can tell you that I perceved relationships differently in the 1970s as my view in the early 1990s. I don't know if it was because of my age, 30 campared to 50, or my better understanding of the fundamental difference in the way men and women look at relationships. I guess nothing ever really changes with life. Glad to have you loving in VA.

Marriage At Thirteen?
"Women are thinking in terms of family, commitment and being cherished at 13 or 14. "
How many girls that age have you met that are thinking of getting married SOON?

I would say the latest trend
is treating men like arm candy. Girls are competing with other girls to see who can accessorize the best. They don't want a boy they want to be worshipped by every boy.

They are absolutely clueless about love.

They do not have the art or desire to catch a husband.

Doesn't sound any different to me.
I warned my sons against loose girls carrying diseases in college. I think guys don't like wasting time and money on girls that they are not interested in. Most girls talk loudly and all at the same time. Hopefully my sons are looking and when the right girl comes along they will fall in love gradually and not get their hearts smashed in the process.

Hedonism
Once you place the notion that God doesn't exist and there are no consequences to actions then paganistic hedonism takes over society because then life is only judged by physical sensation.The sixties gave us "if it feels good do it" and Do it till you're satisfied(whatever it is)---the domino effect is a sad but true historical fact--once you go from a conscience driven society to hedonism the society will not last....

promiscuity
Okay, so what if a certain percentage of young people have always chosen to "hook up?" Still doesn't make it okay!

I came of age in the Me Generation of the 80's. We had our fair share of people who "hooked up" (we called it one night stands, too). Without fail those men "got lucky" but ended up with commitment issues and a deep distrust of women. The women were acting from some sort of false sense of empowerment, like Karin mentions. Unfortunately, those girls ended up with STD's and loneliness.

Today's generations feel like if they just wear a condom, they'll be okay---wrong! Incidental contact transfers chlamydia, herpes, etc!

My oldest will be a college freshman next year. I'm hoping that the values we've given him will hold up. He's been taught to value women--too often MORE than they value themselves! Even in high school, there are certain girls who "hook up." Nothing has changed in 5,000 years of documented teen behavior.

Girls: if a guy has sex with you right away, he will never, never, never see you as anything more than a wh**e. Any guy who says otherwise is lying to himself, or is a lib hippie wannabe.

random thoughts : ADDENDUM
Correction : " ... for at least the first milli-second when ENCOUNTERING A WOMAN, and therefore have saved themselves for their future husbands..."

let us not forget that
these kids are the grandchildren of the 'love generation'

what have we wrought?

random thoughts
I thank OUR LORD my daughters listened to me when i told them, "Guys have one thing on their minds, for at least the first milli-second when encountering, and only a Christian moral code gives a guy any reason to divert his mind ...." This culture is more permissive and flagrant with sex; just because we tolerate lap-dancing on MTV and HBO porn, doesn't mean we only SEE it more than before ....

This is a culture that celebrates death, and therefore hates life; and one way it demon-strates its love of death is to attack G-d's image bearers - ITSELF !! (another way is through debt ...)

Humbly submitted, john

Instant Gratification
While this problem is not new with young people, it seems that for years it has been presented as Ok. We no longer watch Leave it to Beaver and I Love Lucy. Instead, we watch Sex in the City and Friends. When I grew up in the 60's very few of our neighbors were divorced. Now half of them have been. But I think this indicative of the problems we have in this country. We want it all and we want it now. We wantto go see the latest movie, wear fasionable clothes, live in a better neighborhood, eat out (order delivery), etc. etc. etc. And right now is the season of Lent.

Men aren't fools
Men are not quite the fools popular culture makes them out to be. Women talk of commitment but we live in a society that has so severely undermined the commitment of marriage that men realize that it is a farce, little more than the first step to the divorce that traps them into nothing but a committment to pay a woman's bills for years to come.

Less Than Whores,
We have created a culture where, in the name of "empowerment" we have taught girls to be less than whores -- who at least value themselves enough to expect money.

Parents need to work hard against this culture to teach our daughters to set their value high -- to accept nothing less than the full commitment inherent in the lifelong partnership of traditional marriage.

No one values what comes easily. No one pays full price for used good. And no one buys a cow when they can get milk for free.

Old wisdom, but still accurate and more timely than ever.

For women the path to lifelong happiness in a relationship starts with believing that you deserve the best and having the self-respect to demand the commitment first.

Pistol
May I submit that it is men with yout attitude that are the problem.

There is a serious crisis of masculinity in this country, this world. Men don't know or care anymore what it means to be a protector, provider.

Real men love women. And they are mature and capable of loving a woman before age 30!

Reply to Jack
Wrong in more than one area, that is.

Ms. Agness wrote, "The last few years have been especially big years for hooking up, not because college students are hooking up more, but because academics, journalists, and doctors have begun writing about it."

In other words,
1) It IS nothing new
2) It ISN'T necessarily worse today than ever before
3) And, regarding "According to statistics from the 60s and the Centers for Disease Control" -- fewer people died on the Lusitania than the Titanic. That didn't make the Lusitania sinking a good thing.


New?
No, we just used to call them 'one night stands' when I was in college 40 years ago.
Find something else to worry about Karin, like our national debt.

Being a Whore Is No Fun After All
No matter what the movies tell you, at the end of the day, being a whore is no fun, you will never meet a wealthy man who will marry you and whisk you away to a happy life, and you will discover that you are suddenly too old for the ravenous men who tell you that yougottahavesexeverydayoryoudie. By then you will have a Reputation, an STD, and nothing to show for your pains but pains.

But dont let that stop you from your quest to have sex with every man on campus. After all, isnt that what life is all about?

Hook-Ups and Young People
So many young people exchange short-term pleasure for long-term gain, and few take heed of the wisdom bequeathed to them by their elders.

This is a story?

Wrong In More than One Area
Hookups are nothing new. Teenagers and adults have been doing it since way before America was founded. But where Karin is making the mistake is that it's more prevalent today than it has been at any time in history. This is just flat out wrong. According to statistics from the 60s and the Centers for Disease Control, most teenage and young adult sexual activity is down across the board. People are engaging in less sexual activity than this article implies. To say otherwise is to just ignore facts.

Karin is just part of another moral panic that believes that teenage promiscuity is getting worse and it's somehow going to destroy society. News flash, teenagers have ALWAYS been promiscuous to some extent and society keeps moving on. And as Medved reported in the last article he wrote, teenagers today are far less deviant than they were half a century ago.

Hook-Up Culture
Please refer girls to Wendy Shalit's site "Modestly Yours". Also, Shalit has written excellent books on this topic. Girls need support, guidance, love & proper direction in this matter - not blame. They have been deceived like so many of us in so many areas. Dr. Laura (love her or hate her) is a good resource for this topic. Abstinence does work. There are more kids (guys & girls) who are practicing it than people realize. Sex diseases are not cool.

Ms Agnes
You sort of grudgingly concede that females are "partially responsible". Nonsense. They are virtually ( loaded word ) 100 per cent responsible. Read your own stuff. Men are content with the situation. If the females are not, do something different.

Women are biologically programmed into relationships in a way that men are not. Women are thinking in terms of family, commitment and being cherished at 13 or 14. Far fewer men reach this stage before 30, and those that do are quickly married from a large pool of choices. In this atmosphere, women quickly find out that a lot of the competition will trade sex for attention. It works because a significantly high perceent of men in this age group get along quite well without a cloying relationship, but will enter one if sex is involved. There are a lot of things that make this seem like better than nothing to a female, and downside facts like you will probably be sorry later don't have much impact. Since the girl is there for a relationship, a breakup is painful. The guy is there for sex, a breakup means he moves on to someone else. If a female is hooked up for the same reasons, with the same attitude as a guy, it works just fine. If she has other ideas, don't play his game and expect him to play it with her rules.

An Excellent Article
You're right on the money, Karin, but please don't think that all men are "content" with the hookup culture! We need love, commitment, and meaningful relationships just as much as women do, though many of us won't admit that. I'm a 22 year old man who has had nothing to do with the culture of "free love."

Old_&_n_the_way, keep being a great dad, and I hope my generation can make yours proud by fixing this sorry state of affairs.

seems to me
that they are in agreement on what they are, but just not satisfied with the price.

As an old goat with a daughter in
college, this column leaves me with a worried mind. My generation has screwed things up for subsequent generations with our 'free love." Paul, in Galatians, tells us that we reap what we sow. It seems our daughters now reap what my generation sowed. The "love" wasn't "free", our daughters now foot the bill.
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