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Tuesday, July 04, 2006
Jonathan Garthwaite :: Townhall.com Columnist
Pulling back the curtain
by Jonathan Garthwaite
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This is it. The new Townhall.com is finally here. After forcing all of you to look at the 'coming soon' page for the last two days, the wait is over. The Townhall.com team has been hard at work trying to build everything and the kitchen sink. The curtain has been pulled back and you’re all invited to take a look around. I hope you like what you see.

As the oldest, biggest, and best conservative site out there for more than a decade, Townhall.com is about to make an even more dramatic impact on the national political discussion.

The new Townhall.com offers an arsenal of weapons for conservatives to win the battle of ideas. The liberals will try to dismiss us but we know better. This is the start of something big and the stakes in 2006 and 2008 couldn’t be higher.

Joining the Townhall.com community are talk radio’s finest, Bill Bennett, Mike Gallagher, Dennis Prager, Michael Medved, and our Executive Editor, Hugh Hewitt. Each has their own page on Townhall where you can listen to their shows, read their blogs, comment on their shows, and interact with other listeners.

Want to listen to Townhall Talk in your car? Then check out our podcasts, which can be pulled into your iPod to listen to anytime. Want to listen live on the radio? Then enter your zip code and find out what time and what radio station to tune to for Townhall Talk Radio.

Townhall.com is growing dramatically, and in addition to the dozens and dozens of conservative writers you’ve counted on Townhall.com for, we’ve added several new ones including William Rusher, Don Lambro, Roger Schlesinger, Rich Galen, Jay Sekulow, Lori Byrd among others and regular columns from Bennett, Gallagher, Prager, Hewitt and Medved.

What’s Hot?

What should I read? That’s the question we are all faced with as we’re presented with dozens of magazines, Web sites, newspaper stories, and blogs. Your time is precious. Townhall.com has always taken seriously our responsibility to cull through the massive amount of material out there and find the very best. Now we’re giving you a part of the action. By voting on which columns you like, which blog posts were most interesting, and which news stories were most informative, you’ll help your fellow readers. Townhall’s What’s Hot is a reader-determined selection of the very best from the Townhall community. The best columns, blogs, and podcasts according to you.

Speaking of YOU – you can have a new home on the web. With Townhall.com, you can create your own blog right next to Ann Coulter, Hugh Hewitt, Thomas Sowell, and the whole Townhall.com gang. You can post your own commentary, your thoughts on Congress, media bias, the state of our nation – the sky’s the limit. Try it today. We want to hear what you think. You might even hit the big time if enough of your fellow readers like your blog. Townhall has it’s own blog too where we keep a 24/7 vigil for conservative values – keeping you informed and up-to-date on the political battles at hand. You can talk back, too, by commenting on blog posts.

Can’t decide what movie to see this weekend? Why not let Townhall.com’s very own Michael Medved and Megan Basham give you the lowdown on the new movies to go see or to stay away from. Don’t stop there. If you’ve seen the movie then join in the punditry and rate the movie your self.

Can’t decide what book to start reading? Townhall has the reviews. From our regular reviewers and from YOU. Did you like a book you’ve recently read and think the rest of us should read it too? Then sign up and send in your own review.

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Sounds like a lot, but Townhall.com is just getting started. With your help we’ve started a conservative revolution for the values we share. I hope you’ll sign up today and get involved.

Townhall.com – Where your opinion counts.

Jonathan Garthwaite is Editor-in-Chief of Townhall.com

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You guys have some problems on the site:
First of all, on the comments at the end of columns, how come we're seeing real names instead of screen names? On "The Talk About This Article" box at the right side of the screen, I'm seeing screen names.

When I tried to email you about this twice so far this morning, my emails are coming back as undeliverable.

Are these glitches you're planning on fixing?




SITE PROBLEMS
Multiple site problems noted, such as incorrect links or broken links.

I'm not too enthusiastic about the new format, either. First, fix the errors. Second, please don't break up an article/column into multiple pages. (See Thomas Sowell's column) Try to keep an entire article/column on a single page except when the article is EXTREMELY long.

New Site
I have been trying to get around this site since 9:00 am.It is now 5:00pm and this is as far as I got.I spent an hour trying to register this morning unsucessfully.It was taking about ten minutes to download a page.It is faster now,but I just got back on so I'll see how the rest of it works.Are we supposed to re-register?The site doesn't say.And as the poster above me stated,how come our names are shown and not our screen names?I was looking forward to the new site,but it is so "busy" it will take a long while for a computer illeterate like me to find my way around.

New Site
I don't like the new version.

The text is too small. Much to small.

When I click on the links in my email the acticle does not come up. I have to find the writer and then the article to read it.

Getting the bugs out
Hi everyone, We are tracking and making note of the feedback on the bugs. We greatly appreciate your patience as we work hard to iron these out in the next few days.

Its great to see everyone checking out the site and giving it a test-ride. Keep exploring and digging in as we get things going around here.

Two Thumbs down!
As far as content, I suppose once the bugs are worked out, the problem will be that there's too much of it. My biggest problem is that there seems to be no RSS or PDA option, and the regular version crashes my PDA, which is where I usually read the news and opinion pages. My regular computer is for working on! So, until that happens, guess I'll run over to RealClearPolitics, which still displays on my PDA.
I also had the complaint about the registration; being a long-time registered reader, my old login did not work, and all the links that said, "Already registered? Click here." took me back to the same registration screen. That just felt too much like a trick. Why not just say, if you've registered before, you'll have to do it all over again. That would at least be honest.
So, my opinion? Unusable. So sad.

indecipherable
The most immediate problem is the absence of the teaser blurbs for the columns. I don't have time to read every single thing, and frankly I can't tell from the title alone whether I want to read a particular article. On this new format I have to click through just to see if I'm interested in the topic. Very annoying. I also agree w/JeffP re: short articles unnecessarily on multiple pages.

New Townhall site
A wealth of information, and it's understandable that you'll (we'll) suffer some glitches early on. Although I've had a couple of problems going hither and yon, I'll remain patient as you streamline the process.

Great work!

short blurbs
I agree the short blurbs with the name of the article will help in choosing when you are short of time.
Overall I like the look but it will probably take time to see it all.
Also I had missed Town Hall all week and had to go on the web site and resign up.

Botched Overhaul........................
God, you guys have screwed up this site let me count the ways. Let's start out with this handy comment form, the subject line cuts you off at 40 characters! It's an 80 plus character box and you can only type in 40. There are dead links all over the place, I fumbled around for 20 minutes trying to get to John Stossel's wonderful column called "A Convenient Lie" before I gave up and went to read it on jewishworldreview.com instead. And then the site is too damn slow. I have a high speed cable connection and everytime I go to a new page, I'm cronfronted with nothing but solid blue for several seconds and then the page starts to load. I don't know how anyone on dial up could possibly use this site.

I like some of the things you are trying to do, but it was obviously way more than your high school level IT guys could handle. You need to fire those clowns and get someone that knows what they are doing in to fix this mess.

Until then, I'll go back to jewishworldreview.com. They don't have quite as good a selection of columnists as you guys do, but at least their site is simple, quick and it works, which are three things I can't say about Townhall.com anymore.

John

problems
ITA with Webviking. You have a lot of glitches. I tried all day yesterday to comment.

You are wearing out my mouse. Why are the columns on 2 pages, so I have to click and wait for each page to upload? Why are the cartoons each on their own pages, so I have to click and then wait for each one to upload? Why are the cartoons so small?

Since Townhall had been offline for several days, I am behind on reading the columnists. Is there anywhere where all the columns are listed?

Why does it say there are 0 comments, no matter how many comments there are?

Why has the same Jay Leno joke been up for two days?

The talk about this article
lol, Over on the right hand side it looks like I called it a Blotched Overhaul........ the spacing is wrong.

I know there are a thousand little things to fix.

Font size
The print is too small and you have omitted the ability to change the font size. Will this be added? Please do!

Another suggestion
Actually two, regarding the comments on the columns.

1. Why doesn't the original opening page of the column have the comments there, i.e. why do I have to go a step further and open the column a second time to read or post comments?

2. Along that line, the comments are in reverse chronological order. They should go from the oldest comment immediately following the column to the latest comment at the bottom of the page but immediately above the blank area for posting a reply. Thatw ay you simply continue scrolling down. You have them backward. We have to go to the bottom of the page then scroll up to read the comments in the order in which they posted. This makes no sense at all.


With new software or new versions of software we can expect some level of bugs. However, it is frustrating when the user (reader) has to do the debugging. But it will all work out OK.

My complaints include:

I’m already a member, but couldn’t find the Login. I had to re-register. Well, boo-hoo!

Pages are too “busy” for my tastes, but I guess that’s to be expected with advertisements, etc.

Navigation is a bit clumsy and sluggish, for example, when moving from an article to “Post Comments” page. Also, please add preview to “Post Comments” page

I found the “Columnists” page, but couldn’t find the “Columns” page (list of the latest, last month or so, columns, in chronological order showing the author and a brief paragraph from the article). Can we please have it back if its missing?

This is so sad
These changes to your web site are a tragedy for the conservative movement. While doubtless well-meaning, as with many web sites (and software), the new edition is more difficult to use and offers less features than the previous version.

In Town Hall's case, articles are now more cumbersome to load and difficult to read, are now spread over two pages instead of one. Summaries of the articles on the main page are no longer given, and this devalues each columnist, and is also a tremendous loss to the readers.

This is such a shame. Town Hall wasn't broke. Why on earth did you "fix it"? Please, for everyone's sake, change it back before you lose more readers.

Steve Myers
Editor
Page One Daily

New Site a Nightmare!
There are so many problems with your new site I can't list them all, so I'll start with the high points only.

The font is much to small, the pages much to big, especially for a lap top.

Much harder to navigate. You no longer have the sign-in box on the main page. Having to click on a little, hard to find box and going to another page to sign-in is a waste of time.

What happened to the soapbox? It was one of my favorite places to go and I have been a fairly regular blogger there.

Why is the post a comment link now at the top of the article instead of the bottom? Now I have to read a column then go back to the top to comment. Dumb idea there.

Where did the introduction and the name of the contributer of the post go? I like to read most of the contrbuters articles, but some I do not and, I don't always have the time to read the entire article.

The site is very hard to understand and navigate. It was much cleaner, and easier, to be able to sign in right at the main page then scroll down the left side to get to the comments, articles, the soapbox, whatever I wanted and had the time to read. This thing is a mess and needs to be "unfixed".

On the blogs
I have a couple of questions and I didn't know who to address them to, so lucky you, you get them!

I understand that all of this is new and being worked on, but in my blog will I ever be able to-

Change my template
Change the font size of my blog title (it takes two lines and covers the Townhall logo, making it hard to read)
Post pictures or embed video
edit the html code to add button or banners to my sidebar
edit the templates to persoanlize them

(baisically, if I can do it in Blogger, I'd like to be able to do it here)

If these are things in the works, I'll be patient and glad to stay.

Hopefully, you or one of the commenters can point me in the right direction to finding these answers!


Not an Improvement
Dear TownHall -

I have yet to find a single feature of this new version of TownHall which constitutes an improvement.

I do hate to be a naysayer, but whereas I used to read some 5-7 columns a day, my patience with all of the new navigation wears thin after finding and coping with about two.

You haven't done us any favors.

The old format
I simply preferred the old format. Like the others, I do hope the glitches can be cleared up soon, and I'll adjust to the new format.

New Site
I have only one thing to say about this site. The old addage, IF IT AINT BROKE, DON'T FIX IT. The old site was not broke and now you have made it worse. Whose brainny idea was this?

New web site
You've taken an old site with reasonable simplicity and turned it into a circus. Congrat's, you now look like every other site, complete with flashing ad's.

No accounting for taste I guess.

Less is sometimes more.

--John

Invaluable resource needs some work
I have been an ardent supporter of Townhall.com, and have contributed at least twice. I find Townhall.com an invaluable resource for well-thought out conservative opinions. A few comments regarding the overhaul:

Since the columns typically cover a current topic, having a chronological view is paramount. The Most Viewed, Alphabetical, Most Forwarded, and Most Linked Votes tabs are nice, but I believe a chronological view is what most people would be looking for. It simply is not logical to see three-month old columns in a list of columns on topics with such short shelf lives.

Having RSS feeds or text only options that are linkable would be appreciated. I would use AvantGo AutoChannel to get copies of a bunch of columns each day, and be able to read them on the run with my PDA. I no longer can do that.

The performance of the site seems really poor. I have a veritable super-computer on my desk at work (for engineering design), and it positively crawls. There's just TMI on each page. If you're going to have so much info per page, it has to be 90% text. For example, why do all the "Issues" have to be on the front page, loaded and re-loaded time and time again every time someone logs onto the site?

I appreciate the effort to make Townhall better, but my first impression is not very positive.


Ditto
I have only dial up and I dont have time to wait for this massive site to load every time I want to read another page. personally I liked thr old site just fine.

Podcasts
I was very excited to see the podcast feature for all my favorite radio guys. I'm a subscriber to Michael Medved's website and get his show as a podcast, so I've been dying to get Dennis Prager and Hugh Hewitt. But when I try to use your podcast function, the link that is generated doesn't work for itunes on my Mac. Itunes says it's not a valid podcast link. I hope you get this working soon.

POORLY DESIGNED NEW LOGO AND MORE...
HI. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

OVERALL, TOWNHALL.COM IS A REALLY GOOD RERSOURCE AND I CHECK IT OUT JUST ABOUT EACH AND EVERY DAY.

I OFFER THE FOLLOWING AS A MEMBER HERE...
AND, AS A TOP PROFESSIONAL DESIGNER...

HOWEVER, THE NEW DESIGN/LOOK/IMAGE IS REALLY POOR...
ESPECIALLY COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS DESIGN.

WHAT HAPPENED?

THIS IS YET ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF SOME SERVICE GOING ON,
TRYING TO MAKE THINGS BETTER, AND FAILING AT IT-
MAKING IT EVEN WORSE.

OF COURSE, THE CONTENT IS REALLY GOOD...
AND, EVEN BETTER NOW...

IT'S JUST THAT AN EQUALLY GOOD DESIGN/LOOK
HAS GOT TO GO RIGHT ALONG WITH IT.

WHY THE CHANGE?

END OF CONTRACT WITH THE PREVIOUS DESIGN SERVICE?

THE NEW LOOK IS REALLY CHEAP.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS DESIGNED BY SOMEONE WITH A
POOR APPRECIATION FOR CLASSICAL DESIGN STANDARDS.

AND, FOR A GREAT SERVICE LIKE 'TOWNHALL' TO CHOOSE
A POOR DESIGN LIKE THIS...

WOW...

ESPECIALLY THE NEW LOGO...

WHAT'S THE IDEA?

THE POOR TYPESTYLE, ALONG WITH THE POOR OBLIQUE/ITALIC SLANT
VARIATION OF THE POOR TYPESTYLE...

THEN, THERE'S THE THREE PEOPLE OFF TO THE SIDE...
WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?

THE GRAPHIC ELEMENT, WITH THE 3 PEOPLE OFF TO THE SIDE,
KIND OF LOOKS LIKE A CHEAP TAKE-OFF OF THE MYSPACE.COM LOGO...
HOWEVER, IT'S EVEN WORSE.

I REALIZE THAT, TO SOME EXTENT, DESIGN IS SUBJECTIVE...

HOWEVER, TOWNHALL HAS GOT TO HAVE A GOOD IMAGE
TO GO ALONG WITH ITS GOOD SERVICE...
INSTEAD OF LOOKING LIKE AN AVERAGE TO BELOW-AVERAGE SERVICE.

COME ON, NOW...
MAKE IT LOOK AND WORK BETTER THAN THIS...

AS THE CLASSICAL SAYING GOES:

'A GOOD SIGN IS A SIGN OF GOOD BUSINESS.'

THE NEW LOGO HAS GOT TO GO...

I HAVE GOOD FAITH IN YOU AND TOWNHALL THAT
IT CAN AND WILL BE MADE EVEN BETTER.

WHOEVER DESIGNED THIS FOR YOU GOT AWAY WITH SOMETHING...

HOWEVER, THEN AGAIN, YOU/TOWNHALL, BEING THE ONE THAT MADE THE CHOICE TO ACTUALLY CONSIDER IT A GOOD DESIGN AND GO FOR IT, YOU/TOWNHALL ARE PARTIALLY RESPONSIBLE HERE.

THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD TYPESTYLES/FONTS AVAILABLE...

WHY DID TOWNHALL CHOOSE SOME OF THE POOREST ONES HERE?...
ESPECIALLY, THE OBLIQUE/ITALIC ANGLES FOR SOME OF THE ELEMENTS...

IN A WAY, ANY DESIGN IS A REFLECTION OF THE PEOPLE/PERSONALITIES INVOLVED AND REPRESENTING THE SERVICE/ORGANIZATION...
FOR ONE EXAMPLE:

IT'S JUST LIKE THE WAY ONE DRESSES FOR AN EVENT...
HOW WILL TOWNHALL CHOOSE/PREFER/PLAN TO
REPRESENT ITSELF?...
ESPECIALLY AS IT HAS INTENTIONS/A VISION TO BE
AN EVEN STRONGER FORCE IN THE WORLD OF POLITICS?...

DO YOU WANT TO DRESS UP?...
OR, DRESS DOWN?...

IT KIND OF GOES TO SHOW WHAT TOWNHALL RELATES TO...
HOWEVER, APPARENTLY, THERE'S A
DISCONNECT/MISUNDERSTANDING/MISREPRESENTATION HERE...

TOWNHALL IS SUPPOSED TO BE/REPRESENTS ITSELF AS A
STRONG CONSERVATIVE POLITICAL FORCE...

HOW ABOUT MAKING THE WEBSITE *LOOK LIKE IT*, TOO...

TOWNHALL HAS GOT TO GET SOME HELP HERE...

TO QUOTE YOU:

'As the oldest, biggest, and best conservative site out there for more than a decade, Townhall.com is about to make an even more dramatic impact on the national political discussion.'

THEN MAKE TOWNHALL.COM REALLY ***LOOK LIKE IT***!!!

ONE MOVE TOWNHALL CAN MAKE RIGHT AWAY IS TO
LOSE/GET RID OF/CLEAR AWAY ALL THE OBLIQUE/ITALIC VARIATIONS
OF THE FONTS. JUST MAKE THEM LOOK REGULAR...

AND, BACK TO THE FONTS...
JUST USE CLASSIC STYLE FONTS...

THIS IS ALL REALLY EASY...
IT'S LIKE YOUR MAKING IT WAY MORE OF A CHALLENGE
THAN IT REALLY IS.

GOOD DESIGN STANDARDS HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED LONG AGO...
GOOD DESIGN IS, VIRTUALLY, ALL AROUND US...

PLEASE, TOWNHALL...
PLEASE JUST MAKE THE LOGO LOOK ***GOOD****...
JUST LIKE THE GOOD VISION AND RELATED GOOD CONTENT
OFFERED HERE AT THIS GOOD RESOURCE.

I'LL STILL CHECK OUT TOWNHALL.COM...
HOWEVER, AS IT STANDS NOW...
AND QUITE POORLY AT THAT...
THE NEW AND 'IMPROVED'?...
MORE LIKE NEW AND 'IMPOVERISHED' LOOK
WILL TAKE AWAY/DISTRACT/SUBTRACT
FROM THE OVERALL EXPERIENCE.

PLEASE GO FOR A BETTER DESIGN/DESIGNER...

AND, WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE/CHARGED
TO MAKE THE FINAL CHOICE FOR A DESIGN
HAS GOT TO BE A LOT BETTER INFORMED
ABOUT WHAT GOOD DESIGN IS ALL ABOUT...

TOWNHALL MAY BE GOOD AS A
CONSERVATIVE POLITICAL FORCE,
HOWEVER, IT'S GOT TO GET WITH
AN EQUALLY GOOD DESIGN FORCE
TO MAKE IT ALL+RIGHT...
AND, IT'S GOT TO BE ASAP.

FOR THE LAST TIME...
FOR NOW, THAT IS:

***PLEASE REDESIGN THAT POOR, WEAK, CHEAP LOGO ASAP.***

OF COURSE, THERE'S SOME GOOD POINTS...
HERE'S SOME EXAMPLES:

+ OVERALL BASIC FORMAT/LAYOUT SYSTEM

+ THE RED, WHITE, AND BLUE COLOR SCHEME

+ GOOD RESOURCES

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK...

MAKE THE LOGO A GOOD LOGO...

ALL THE BEST,

T

too slow
Ya'll need to get your act together. Townhall used to be a dailt stop for me, but I don't have time to wait around for stuff to load.

Please e-mail when when the site is working again, otherwise I won't be back.

Popover ads
The VERY first thing I see on the new site -- a popover ad for American Express that snuck past my popup blocker. What a great way to lose readers! GIVE US A BREAK and trash the trashy ads. I guess if you're making money from sneaky popover ads, I don't need to contribute to Townhall any more. Fine with me.

Inappropriate Language
Second day of Inappropriate Language on my posts.
Site great but sslllooowwww.
Hope you give the @#$% inappropriate language problem top priority.

Am anxious to see if @#$% makes it through as appropriate language! LOL!

Yo,T...
...what do you think about the design and the new logo? Can you go into a little more detail,please?

Yo,T...
...what do you think about the design and the new logo? Can you go into a little more detail,please?

Top Reasons This Overhaul Reeks:
All of my complaints have been addressed by previous posts, but I'll throw in my 2 cents all the same.

1) Toooooooo Sloooooooow - even with DSL, it takes a long time to load, and many articles will not load at all

2) To hard to navigate

3) No chronological listing of columnists

4) No summary of articles

As most have stated, this is not an improvement, and will probably lead to me spending less time here and more on NRO

Too Much!
I miss my old Jonathan Garthwaite e-mail with columns to click on! I want the old way back! was so much better! some of the new things may be good - but there is too much! and the print this page puts the column allto the left and I usus]ally e-mail pages with columns - now when I click on send page -all it puts in the e-mial is dome gobbledy-gook in a little box! PLEASE restore the site!!!!! It was so good!! Much too hard to get to columns now and I don't see PERLUTSKY AT ALL. THE OLD SITE REALLY KEPT ME INFORMED! Thank you for the past - wish it was still here!

Too Much!
I miss my old Jonathan Garthwaite e-mail with columns to click on! I want the old way back! was so much better! some of the new things may be good - but there is too much! and the print this page puts the column allto the left and I usus]ally e-mail pages with columns - now when I click on send page -all it puts in the e-mial is dome gobbledy-gook in a little box! PLEASE restore the site!!!!! It was so good!! Much too hard to get to columns now and I don't see PERLUTSKY AT ALL. THE OLD SITE REALLY KEPT ME INFORMED! Thank you for the past - wish it was still here!

Typing errors
sorry I messed up the last comment - I only have the late night to read and used to eagerly look for Jonathan Garthwaite in my e-mail and read as many columns as I could - some really great writers with good sense and insight into todays messed up world. I will really miss that - is there a place where I can find them ? and not have to jump through hoops? Please - this is what happens so often with so many things - something is really good and then it gets "fixed" "Improved" and it is no good any more! Some of the new things are good - but please unimprove the site!!! Take us back to yesterday! Thank you!

Sheesh!!
My husband turned me on to this site. And I was REALLY looking forward to reading and participating.

However..........what the heck happened??????

Now I need my "cheaters" to read comments; navigation is terrible; and the Soapbox is missing completely!!!

And it seems that making a comment ON a comment is now no longer available. The best part of Townhall was the exchange of ideas between people and that appears to be eliminated to a degree.

Rather than this being a true "townhall" concept, it seems to have become more of a "forum" where we are again limited in the exchange of our own ideas.

need limit on comments
i think you should have a word limit on comments, like 250 words maybe, and if people really had more than that to say, i guess they could post more than one comment on the same article, but its really annoying and not fun to read comments on an article that are as long as the article itself. if people have that much to say, they shoudl blog it and leave a link to it as their comment, not leave excessively long comments.

most commented on
it would also be cool if besides most forwarded and most viewed you had most commented, that way users can know thats where the buzz is and see what everyone else is saying about articles.

Ditto on site criticisms
While I like the access to editorial cartoons and news articles, the chief attraction remains the columnists. The previous site was much better in this regard. Columnists were listed in chronological order with a short summary of their column. What is with showing only half the column?! Comments could be made on previous comments. The font was readable!

The New Site
I had not visited TownHall for several weeks. My visits were usually brief. I'd read an article or two. That was about it. Today I clicked on it, and wow, I liked what I found. I spent about an hour clicking here and there, reading this and that. I thought it was great, like shopping at a big idea mall. Then I reviewed some of the mostly critical comments from readers. I was surprised. The new format isn't perfect, but I think it's great. I even signed up to post my comments.

'WHAT'S HOT' IS A GOOD RESOURCE...
AND, THANK YOU FOR IT.

IT'S GOOD TO SEE 'WHAT'S HOT'...

SHOWING THE STATISTICS OF THE 'ACTION' FOR EACH ITEM
IS A GOOD POINT, TOO.

I'M STILL WORKING MY WAY THROUGH/AROUND HERE/'TOWNHALL'...
IT'S REALLY INTERESTING.

NOW...
ONCE AGAIN...

CHANGE THAT NEW *BAD* 'TOWNHALL.COM' LOGO.

ALSO, DO AWAY WITH ALL THE 'ITALICIZED' FONTS...
EVEN THOUGH THE ITALIANS WON THE 'WORLD CUP
OF SOCCER/FOOTBALL.' :)

FOR REAL, NOW...
JUST USE CLASSIC FONTS...
ALONG WITH REGULAR STYLES FOR EACH.

THAT WILL MAKE FOR SOME REALLY GOOD PROGRESS.

THIS 'TOWNHALL.COM' PROJECT SURE IS A
'WORK IN PROGRESS'...

AND, IT'S QUITE A PROCESS...

WE'LL ALL WORK IT OUT AND MAKE IT ALRIGHT...
EVENTUALLY. :)

I POSITIVELY APPRECIATE ALL YOUR *GOOD* WORK/SERVICE SO FAR...
JUST KEEP IT GOING.

ALL THE BEST,

T

New Format Kills Site's Salutory Purpose
Dear Townhall:

In the past I depended on Townhall as an opinion site that was well organized, not cluttered with internet junk, had articles that one could read without those utterly annoying CONTINUED links, and was laid out so I could easily find a particular author's work or topics of interest.

On July 3, 2006, I attempted to log onto your site only to be met with the message that the "NEW" Townhall was coming on July 4th.

I thought to myself, "Oh great, they're gonna screw up one of the best sites left on the web." But I hoped for the best.

Unfortunately, a July 4, 2006 visit to the "NEW" Townhall served only to dash my hopes. My initial reaction on viewing your NEW site was, "What a piece of junk." I thought give it a chance. However, with my visit to your site today, all I can say is that you have completely bollixed up what was once a great site by junking up your webpage as to completely hide the former salutory hallmark and foundation of your site's content; NAMELY YOUR OPINION PIECES. And then came the last insult. Once I managed to find 'today's opinions', I began to read an article only to be met with the obnoxious CONTINUED link. If the presentation your opinion pieces is now (apparently) secondary to presentation of your cluttered and distracting webpage format, all I can is that you have badly lost your focus. And if your intent is to present cogent conservative political commentary, then you have acted to defeat that worthy goal.

I do not know what motivated you to change your formerly excellant site. If the motivation was some misguided adherence to modernity and the need to constantly be updating, all I can say is that your site as you now have it is no different from the host of other junked up news-lite sites out there. You have taken the meritorious difference of the simple and clear presentation of great content and traded it for vulgar conformity with the rest of the web. This is NOT progress!

I beg you, please return to you once excellant format or at least its principles; namely a site presenting opinions in an easily readable format where it is easy to find topics and authors in a font that is not microscopic and on a page not so cluttered as to disparage exploration. In the Navy we had an _expression: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." You have indeed violated this maxim by breaking a once smoothly functioning site. I do not know who the "EinsteinS" were who promoted your changes, but please fire them, and go back to what you did so well.

In closing, I must note that in the past I recommed your site to many on a regular basis. I shall do so no more. I will check in occasionally to see if you have cleaned up your act - but overall, and very sadly, I shall have to seek elsewhere a site that provides the information you once did.

V/R

Rich Luke

The New TownHall
After three weeks of using the new TownHall, it's time for me to weigh in with a considered opinion and some suggestions.

Before I get started though, let me describe my background and my Internet environment; these obviously color my opinions of your site and may help you evaluate this post. I retired nearly two years ago after 30+ years in IT; mostly as a Systems Programmer in the large mainframe environment. Part of my job a few years ago was the design, creation, and maintenance of a large (200+ pages) web site.

I sometimes access TownHall.com from my desktop PC via a cable broadband connection but usually read your news and columnist pages on my Pocket PC/cell phone. Before you discount the rest of this post as being not representative of your target audience, ask yourself if you really want to appeal only to those who have the time and inclination to sit in front of a PC monitor for extensive periods or if you wouldn't rather include on-the-go movers and shakers who might access your site during their commute times or other odd moments. I'm not asking you to tailor your site to these very small screens (mine is only 1 23/32 x 2 5/16) but it would be nice if you would keep this part of your audience in mind.

While I generally think you have improved TownHall, I have to agree with previous posters in some important criticisms and add a couple of my own:
Loading of your new pages is painfully slow in comparison to other pages at the same time of day and on the same device. I've even gotten in the habit of tapping a link and then resuming a game while waiting for a page to load on my Pocket PC.
Many of the ads on your new pages, in addition to being major contributors to slow page loading, are obnoxiously intrusive and therefore counterproductive. Companies whose ads get in the way of my reading my favorite columnists are added to the list of companies that I refuse to patronize. The other side of that coin is that I would be willing to pay a subscription fee for a TownHall that had no more advertising than links to sellers of books reviewed or referenced on your site.
Your developers may indeed be recent high school graduates as one post suggested. They are clearly much more proficient in graphic design than in the technicalities of web site creation. You really need to evaluate the new TownHall with your goals in mind: Do you want to be THE web site of conservative thought and dialog or just another gee-whiz collection of eye-catching graphics and photos? I don't think you can be both.
Separation of longer articles into two or more web pages might be more expedient for some readers but let me decide when I first select an article whether I want short pages or the entire piece (with or without comments). You might even allow me to put my default selection in my user profile so that articles are normally displayed the way I want to see them.
And, speaking of comments, you must restore the capability of replying to a comment and the arrangement of comments with the oldest first. The order of comments is something else you might want to make selectable in each user's profile.
Your news content and updating need some more attention. Friday's news on Monday morning just doesn't cut it; surely something happened over the weekend. And while you're working on your news pages, please add a dateline to each article showing the geographic origin of the story, its date and time, the source (AP, Reuters, etc.), and, whenever possible, the author(s).

In spite of all that criticism, I really do like your site and am particularly pleased that I can now enter comments from my Pocket PC. I don't know what you did to make that happen but I thank you for it.

Like any user of IT services, though, there are some features I'd like to see you add. First, let me edit and spell check --- even delete --- my own posts. Then give me the option to be notified by eMail when someone else replies to my post. Another nice option would be for me to be notified when anyone posts a comment to a selected article. It would also be very nice if my profile could include a list of other users whose posts I want to ignore and, to be fair, a count of other users who are ignoring me. Finally, a help page describing posting of comments and replies --- particularly the formatting of them --- would be very useful.

The New TownHall II
Yes, this is a (near) duplicate post occasioned by formatting lost when I copied the original from Word without checking closely enough. Sorry. ease ignore the earlier post.

After three weeks of using the new TownHall, it's time for me to weigh in with a considered opinion and some suggestions.

Before I get started though, let me describe my background and my Internet environment; these obviously color my opinions of your site and may help you evaluate this post. I retired nearly two years ago after 30+ years in IT; mostly as a Systems Programmer in the large mainframe environment. Part of my job a few years ago was the design, creation, and maintenance of a large (200+ pages) web site.

I sometimes access TownHall.com from my desktop PC via a cable broadband connection but usually read your news and columnist pages on my Pocket PC/cell phone. Before you discount the rest of this post as being not representative of your target audience, ask yourself if you really want to appeal only to those who have the time and inclination to sit in front of a PC monitor for extensive periods or if you wouldn't rather include on-the-go movers and shakers who might access your site during their commute times or other odd moments. I'm not asking you to tailor your site to these very small screens (mine is only 1 23/32 x 2 5/16) but it would be nice if you would keep this part of your audience in mind.

While I generally think you have improved TownHall, I have to agree with previous posters in some important criticisms and add a couple of my own:

1..Loading of your new pages is painfully slow in comparison to other pages at the same time of day and on the same device. I've even gotten in the habit of tapping a link and then resuming a game while waiting for a page to load on my Pocket PC.

2..Many of the ads on your new pages, in addition to being major contributors to slow page loading, are obnoxiously intrusive and therefore counterproductive. Companies whose ads get in the way of my reading my favorite columnists are added to the list of companies that I refuse to patronize. The other side of that coin is that I would be willing to pay a subscription fee for a TownHall that had no more advertising than links to sellers of books reviewed or referenced on your site.

3..Your developers may indeed be recent high school graduates as one post suggested. They are clearly much more proficient in graphic design than in the technicalities of web site creation. You really need to evaluate the new TownHall with your goals in mind: Do you want to be THE web site of conservative thought and dialog or just another gee-whiz collection of eye-catching graphics and photos? I don't think you can be both.

4..Separation of longer articles into two or more web pages might be more expedient for some readers but let me decide when I first select an article whether I want short pages or the entire piece (with or without comments). You might even allow me to put my default selection in my user profile so that articles are normally displayed the way I want to see them.

5..And, speaking of comments, you must restore the capability of replying to a comment and the arrangement of comments with the oldest first. The order of comments is something else you might want to make selectable in each user's profile.

6..Your news content and updating need some more attention. Friday's news on Monday morning just doesn't cut it; surely something happened over the weekend. And while you're working on your news pages, please add a dateline to each article showing the geographic origin of the story, its date and time, the source (AP, Reuters, etc.), and, whenever possible, the author(s).

In spite of all that criticism, I really do like your site and am particularly pleased that I can now enter comments from my Pocket PC. I don't know what you did to make that happen but I thank you for it.

Like any user of IT services, though, there are some features I'd like to see you add. First, let me edit and spell check --- even delete --- my own posts. Then give me the option to be notified by eMail when someone else replies to my post. Another nice option would be for me to be notified when anyone posts a comment to a selected article. It would also be very nice if my profile could include a list of other users whose posts I want to ignore and, to be fair, a count of other users who are ignoring me. Finally, a help page describing posting of comments and replies --- particularly the formatting of them --- would be very useful.

This Is Truly Ridiculous!
I had thought the numbering of a list of items was stripped when I copied and pasted from Word so I repeated the post after manually restoring the numbers and blank lines separating the list items but they were again stripped by the submission process! Why in the world would anyone waste even a single line of code to do this?!? I give up!
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