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Friday, May 08, 2009
Jonah Goldberg :: Townhall.com Columnist
We Need a Hero
by Jonah Goldberg
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We conservatives are having one of our grand, knock-down, drag-out fights over the future of conservatism and the GOP. Should conservatives compromise on gay marriage or abortion rights? Should we jump on the environmental bandwagon? Are there ways to reform health care without abandoning our principles? What would Reagan do? What would William F. Buckley think? Would the Founding Fathers cry like that American Indian in the old anti-litter commercial?

Frankly, I love these arguments. I think they are healthy and good for conservatism and the country. One of the things I love about conservatives is that we have these internal debates more often than the Five Families went to war in "The Godfather."

The mainstream perception that conservatives are close-minded and dogmatic while liberals are open-minded and free-thinking has it almost exactly backward. Liberal dogma is settled: The government should do good, where it can, whenever it can. That is President Obama's idea of pragmatism and bipartisanship: He's open to all ideas, from either side of the aisle, about how best to expand government and get the state more involved in our lives. Meanwhile, conservatism's dogma remains forever in flux. We constantly debate the trade-offs between freedom and virtue, the conflicts between liberty and order.

See, I can't stop myself from getting into this stuff.

But here's the thing. One of the most important, yet most frequently violated, laws of punditry is that your own priorities and preferences aren't always relevant. I would love it if the GOP dedicated itself to cutting government by two-thirds, leaving only a minimal social safety net, a big honking military and a few other bells and whistles for promoting the general welfare. My ideal ticket in 2008 would have been Cheney-Gramm. That's right, Dick Cheney and Phil Gramm: two old white guys who would crush our enemies and liberate our economy while shouting, "You kids get off my lawn!" at the filthy hippies who would inevitably accumulate outside the White House like so much bathroom fungus.

But you know what? It's not about what I want. Gone are the days when a great but uncharismatic president like Calvin Coolidge could get elected because he promised to do as little as possible. ("Perhaps," he observed, "one of the most important accomplishments of my administration has been minding my own business.") My ideal platform may be right. (If I didn't think it was, it wouldn't be my ideal platform, now would it?) But it is surely not popular.

And that, I fear, may be the key word: "popular." In my darker moods, I suspect that American politics, at least at the presidential level, is ultimately just a popularity contest. In the television age, the more personally charming guy wins -- or at minimum has a monumental advantage.

Partisans on both sides tend to not like this argument for all sorts of reasons. For instance, they tend to like their candidates better than the other team's. Of course, this is often just a rationalization. If you honestly believed that Michael Dukakis was a more likable guy than George H.W. Bush, or that Nixon would be a more entertaining drinking buddy than JFK, you should seek therapy, or a vigorous regimen of enemas, or both. The simple fact is that if John Kerry and Al Gore weren't pompous human toothaches, they would have blown George W. Bush out of the water.

Also, partisans like to believe that whenever their guy wins, it's because their ideas have been ratified by the American people, and whenever the other guy loses, they pronounce that the American people have resoundingly rejected this or that idea. Sometimes this is obviously true, but not nearly as often as we like to think. Obama, after all, promised over and over that his administration would provide a "net spending cut." How's that going?

Liberals bristled at -- but didn't really deny -- the suggestion that voters preferred Bush because they'd rather "have a beer with him." What they fail to fully appreciate is that many voters preferred Obama because they'd rather have a chardonnay with him than with that cranky John McCain. Obama's winning personality and a widespread yearning for ill-defined "change" were probably more essential to Obama's victory than his campaign proposals.

So what does this mean for conservatives? Well, it doesn't mean that we should stop debating ideas. But it also probably means that we won't have a chance to implement those ideas until the GOP finds a winning salesman or vessel for them, and that person doesn't seem to exist right now. Again, I'm speaking to my fears, not my hopes.

On the bright side, nobody knew who the hell Barack Obama was the day before yesterday either.

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Of Course we can win!
We can definitely win, but we must fight on a different platform. Not with the lying MSM that twist everything for the Dems but on grassroots, in the community centers of mid-town America. The only reason the Dems are winning is because they a cheating like crazy. As long as their railroaders like Acorn are in existence they will still elections. Clean out our elections systems and stop allowing the media to call races. Each county office should be responsible for giving the general public election information, not the media.

I think laws should be imposed to keep the media out of elections and then watch how everything will change. The liberals are theives they want to win and control. We need to destroy the defenses they have created to help them continue to cheat. Al Franken over Ron Coleman, yeah right.

Joel D.
As to your post about fighting them on their ground, I don't know, we might be more in accordance with your way of thinking, which I tend to agree with by the way, if we did fight them here and these bleeding heart liberals had to fight for their own children for a change. For most of them a good fight is getting through traffic to work each day!

Joel
We defeated the berbery pirates through mark and reprisal. We armed our boats, then sent the marines in to attack the pirates and killed their leader. He was replaced with a friendly leader, but we didn't seek to impose democracy, build schools and infrastructure on our own dime, hang around for a decade, and build military bases around Tripoli. How we dealt with the berbery pirates is vastly different than how we deal with Islamic terrorists.

There is no arguing with you though, you see things through the lens of a warmongerer. You talk about attacking all of North America then going into South America and attacking allies like Panama? Also, the Canal is owned by China, that would drag us into war with China. You'd probably love that though, watching countless American's die for foolish wars sounds like great fun to you, doesn't it?

The Muslim's are fine as long as they don't threaten us, Jefferson had no plans to wipe out all of Islamdom, he knew it was futile, and he only went for those who threatened us.

By the way, just to make you angry, all drugs should be legalized in the first place. The drug war is a war on us. Marijuana is non addictive whereas alcohol is, yet alcohol is legal because it is a favored drug of well off Americans who do not wish to give it up. During prohibition we had gang violence over alcohol, now during drug prohibition we have gang violence over marijuana, crack, which is just a debased form of cocaine, and other drugs.

Ron Paul makes Jonah's Point ...
Ron Paul is intelligent, articulate, and I love his genuine libertarian point of view. But I must say he comes across at times - as shrill and way out of the mainstream. He does not have the kind of charisma of a Reagan, Clinton, or Obama. By the way, I also think McCain, Romney, and just about every Republican governor and member of Congress also strike me as stale and uncharismatic. No conviction, no fire in the belly.

Sky
Sky, those were great posts, I loved the Paine quotes. I shared them with my friends and I found them very inspiring. Unfortunately, the politicians we have now on the right and the left do not follow men like Paine or Jefferson, they follow the paths of power. They don't seek to do the right thing like Jefferson and Coolidge, but are mere statists of one vein or another.

We need to look past party and find good men and women to lead us. I admit I defended Republican's in the past when they didn't deserve it. I supported Bush even when I felt it wasn't quite right. I did these things because I grew attatched to the Republican's, and not principles and values. I idolized men, and not principles. This is what conservatives have done en masse, and this is why we have the problems we have today.

Joel - and Ron Paul
Joel, that's nuts. That's absolutely nuts. Not all Muslims follow the Koran that way. To advocate nuking billions of people is absurd. Jefferson read the Koran, he knew the Islamists understood two things: Weakness, and strength. The policies of Obama display weakness, they'll prey on that. However, we still shouldn't be forcing democracy on nations, especially those inclined towards Sharia law, and our military shouldn't be in over 100 nations interfering with other countries business. We intervene in everything and this is why the world sees us as arrogant. This is why Al Qaida was more inclined to attack us than say, Germany. Ron Paul wants to bring the troops home to protect us here, we need a strong national defense, and that includes a wall between us and Mexico and Canada, not bases in 100 countries.

Ron Paul follows the principles of Paine, Washington, Jefferson, and the rest of our Founding Fathers. Their writings, including the federalist and even anti-federalist papers appear on the campaignforliberty.com site, which he helped start. Paul is our hero. While Romney and the gang are going on half witted "listening tours" Ron Paul is still going around the country and educating the people on the principles which make this nation great.

Yes and no


That's like saying that the ONLY way that conservatives can win is if we have some slickster. Frankly, I think powerful ideas can imbue a candidate with a sh*tload of appeal. Of course, that doens't explain Jimmy Carter....other than the fact that he was running against someone who seemed to be pulled out of a freshly dug grave....

IKE
If obam is your hero,then chavez is probably your daddy.

Ike
Just what the heck has O-man done in his life to be called a hero? He was not a soldier, he was not a cop, fireman, or anything else that could even start to require the title. All he has ever been is an organizer and not that good of a one at that. His service of 100+ days as president sure as hades doesn't earn it either!!

We don't need a hero ...
we already have elected one of those and it's not entirely certain, but seems like he's not actually doing so well. Heroes, in the past, have betrayed their principles - if they had any - and typically created a hell on earth for both their followers and their opponents. What we need, both in the country and in the Republican Party, is a leader. Someone who will lead the way, not a grandstanding do-nothing who is as likely to give credit where credit is due as he (or she) is likely to fly by flapping their ears. Someone who has a firm belief in the principles of conservatism and a vision of where those principles ought to lead us, out of this welter of laws, regulations, activisms of one variety of idiocy or another, single-issue simpletons, patchworks of compromise and descent into a purely pragmatic and utterly dismal and horrifying business as usual. Heroes lead us deeper into the swamp because they have no map and no compass. Leaders have both. That's what America needs and what the Republican Party needs. If the Republican Party can't find one, maybe we need a new party to advance the interests of conservatives in politics. In case you've forgotten, those interests are: small government, low taxes, no bureaucrats making laws - no matter what they're called, no "war to end all wars" - but enough military to keep us from being overrule by the foolish and jealous, and political and economic freedom. Remember: freedom (and free enterprise) is what happens when you get to do what you want and when you have to suffer the consequences, for good or for ill. Can't be free with folks in Washington or the state capitals telling you which hand to wipe with and how much paper to use.

You wanted a Hero
I choose the man that guided George Washington....Thomas Paine

December 23, 1776
Tomas Paine: These are the times that try mens souls: The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of his country: but he that stands it NOW, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered: yet we have the consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: tis dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed, if so celestial an article as freedom should not be highly rated..."

Thomas Paine Awakening from the Grave
Thomas Paine (1737 - 1809) in regard to heriditary wisdom - defined as those thoughts rendered as important and handed down by Kings and Law Makers --
Thomas Paine stated "It is impossible to make wisdom heriditary....that cannot be a wise contrivance, which in its operation may commit the government of a nation to the wisdom of an idiot"

Goldberg
Lenard Says: "Sigh!! Wrong on so many accounts. First, and you won't like this, you're not a conservative. A true conservative believes in a federal government as opposed to a national one."

I say you are wrong on so many accounts. A true conservative does not believe in Government at all. For Government does not discern between good and evil. It cannot by its very nature. It must choose to satisfy all, and choose the lesser of 2 evils. Both evils residing on the right and the left.

Thomas Paine once said, "Government is a contrivence of human wisdom, and the rights of man are the reasonable claims they (men) make when they choose between goods and evils. When they (the Government)make decisions when goods conflict, decisions concerning lesser evils when choice is limited to both of which are evil."

This is the mark of today. To satisfy both we must live with lesser evil, on all fronts and at all times, instead of goodness. That is the point of the article.


Joel-de and Ron Paul
Can you be more specific on Ron Paul and his 9/11 comments? I have not heard them myself, but have been told that he said has been misquoted or taken out of context. From what I do know of him he would be ideal, except for his age.

Goldberg, Goldberg, Goldberg
Sigh!! Wrong on so many accounts. First, and you won't like this, you're not a conservative. A true conservative believes in a federal government as opposed to a national one. Federalism pertains to those matters that are external to the states, and no this does not mean the Federal government automatically gets to assume powers. It must still have powers delegated through the amendment process. So no social programs by the federal government period!!
You do know General Welfare has to do with the interaction of the states, thus post roads and offices, commerce among the states, common coinage, and the like. Just asking.
Your view skews your whole opinion. This is why you place so much emphasis on a Presidential candidate. The President in this country is more of a manager. To other countries yes he is the big kahuna, bot not at home. No matter how great (I am available, for a limited time) the candidate put forth, it will ultimately come down to what state governments do. The states need to start using the principles of nullification and interposition, and I think that is already occurring.
Cheney/Gramm? Seriously man, if that was tongue in cheek I think many missed it.

tammy at 2:47 yesterday
Essentially what you want is religion that avoids God and is coercive. We are given no choice in doing good except as measured by you. Unfortunately you don't have a good that is outside of man and is informed by knowing the beginning from the end. Think about it.

joel...me too!
Nor am I angry.smile.
But since you like to refernce scriptural ideas
go to the book of Romans"for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God and that includes you Joel" Ha Ha Ha.
Easy for you and I to say-"right is right and
wrong is wrong" But you are still not getting
it about Mass. and trying to govern!
What ever Mitt could accomplish there that wasn't way out loony super liberal was a
truly an accomplishment! If Mitt wasn't there
Mass. would have gone totally China style
communistic coverage(insurance). During the Calif. debate he for the first time went into what he tried to do and what he was able to do!
You still haven't complimented him for coming down on the side of life when push come to shove
again I suggest you read that scripture in
Romans.No, the spirit verifies what we teach!
That is why we call those folks who prepare
lessons and convey them--- Teachers!
Iam going to take care of my daily duties.
Adios-
Elvis

Joel-De Oppresso Liber
It seems you appreciate the fundamentally frightening nature of Islam. There's no question the Europeans - and now us - are playing a very dangerous game by allowing these Muslim enclaves and radical mosques, where the Imams screech their anti democratic dogma to the 'believers', to exist.

These liberal democracies even insist on financing their executioners. Jihad is being practiced by millions simply by having as many babies as possible while living on welfare. 'We will win simply through demographics'.

Even the lib fascists don't fully appreciate the barbaric enemy their playing footie and bargaining with - and certainly not the millions of mindless drones who enable them politically to begin with.

Of course, Islam makes provision for those types who are able to pay the dhimmitude and give lip service to Islam. They will be accommodated. But that guarantees nothing - attitudes change and heads are loped off at the drop of a hadith.

Run of the mill homos? They'd kill them for entertainment; for sport. Women's rights? Forget it.

It's too bad common herd indoctrinated democrat liberal stupes are too ignorant - or too stupid - to understand what they are supporting. What a rude awakening for them it will be when the light bulb finally comes on.

My Grandparents Assured Me . . .
. . . that Hitler had a splendid personality, was charming and kind to animals and small children, told funny jokes, was artistic and loved great music, and was a hard-working self-made man. They still voted against him, at least while they still had the chance, because his policies and ideals were poisonous. Later, they left their beloved Vaterland to get away from that charming individual and his charmless underlings.
That's the trouble with both Hitler and Obama-- they have that personal charisma that short circuits the critical facility. Likable fellows all-- but incredibly destructive. Never trust charm.

Cheney-Gramm 2012 My bladder hurts!
"My ideal ticket in 2008 would have been Cheney-Gramm. That's right, Dick Cheney and Phil Gramm: two old white guys who would crush our enemies and liberate our economy while shouting, "You kids get off my lawn!" at the filthy hippies who would inevitably accumulate outside the White House like so much bathroom fungus."

Jonah, I laughed so hard as this passage that my bladder nearly burst! Beyond that, one of the difficulties is that Republicans are usually running your Dad against the Democrat's silly, permissive uncle. One reason why the Left has worked so hard to trash folks like Sarah Palin and Bobby Jindal is that they have the potential to be charasmatic leaders while espousing conservative principals.

edgycater.blogspot.com

Kitty
"All the incumbents and political candidates at the federal level should be forbidden to publicly address, in speech or in lawmaking, any subject which is not properly the purview of the federal government--such as education, welfare, health, same-sex marriage, and the entire entertainment industry, including sports. The federal government should, however, through the court system, prevent the States from denying its citizens their individual Constitutional rights: among them being free speech, the right to bear arms, and freedom of choice."

Unfortunately, almost everything has become the purview of the federal gov't - and this is tragic travisty and betrayal of the founder's original intents and purposes.

But you would restrict what candidates may say? Does that help? Does restricting someone else's speech rights support yours?

No question the federal gov't has been usurping authority - and now it has been set up for the greatest usurper this country has yet seen: Obamanation.

Getting rid of this power crazed fascist may not be a matter of a simple election - it may yet become a fight.

Yes, he wants to remove our civil rights - he has referred to them as 'negative' rights. In his view, all rights, the fascist that he is, emanate from him.

Everything was being set up for a dictator - and then we elect one: simply appalling.

Joel 2
Also Joel, Ron Paul has been a strongly pro-life candidate his whole life. He believes it's a violation of the hypocratic oath for a doctor to perform an abortion, and he believes you cannot defend liberty if you cannot defend life. He is very in line with your beliefs from what I've read from you. You must understand though that our interventionist foreign policy leads to trouble, Joel. 9/11 was the terrorists fault, but it wouldn't have happened if we weren't meddling in foreign affairs. I know it's hard to swallow, but it's the truth. Our meddling is rarely beneficial.

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/article.php?view=69

Joel De-Oppresso Liber
Islam does not directly threaten us. People like you are warmongerers who want to destroy the entire Middle East and North Africa. If Islam is itself a direct threat, then why don't you advocate nuking those two areas? Until Muslim's directly threaten our country, we ought to leave them the heck alone. I know plenty of peaceful Muslims, one of the kindest people I know is a Muslim. I agree, the Koran is a book full of violent commands and Muslim's do sick things in the name of warlord Muhammed's teachings. It's not a peaceful religion. But not all Muslim's are direct threas to our nation. Why would Islamic terrorists attack us when there are plenty of other nations which surround the Middle East that are also not Muslim? Why would they attack our economic and political centers? What about say, Italy, or the Papal States? Why didn't the terrorists attack them?

I've read much of the Koran and I know the religion is full of hatred and violence. So are many other religions. The Catholic's had an inqusition that killed 3000 people, is Catholicism a direct threat? The Mormon's Mountain Medow massacre killed many pioneers, and they seek to convert the world to Mormonism, are they a direct threat? Then there's communism. Should we go to war with China and North Korea? We can't reform the world. Going to war with the Taliban was a good idea because the Taliban directly threatened us. Morroco is an Islamic country, we don't go to war with them, they haven't done us harm. Do you get it? By the way, nation building and installing Western democracies doesn't seem to work, are you for that as well?

Ron Paul 2012

Women are at the table
Hello Conservatives:
There is NOTHING incompatible with being a republican and supporting a woman's right to choose and/or gay marriage. Those are 2 issues that speak to the very heart of liberty and individual freedom that the GOP professes to support. That's a joke. Most conservatives take the bible literally, and treat women as property. Our own country didn't even allow women to vote or get an education til the 1920s. The point of the GOP is to support the federal needs of the citizenry and give states the necessary means to govern at a more local level. It looks like, with the variation in abortion laws and gay marriage between the states, that in fact, this trend is most supportive/evidence of the GOP philosophy. So, when the GOP decides to stick to Fiscal conservatism and support of a thin, Federal government and promote the rights of women and gays in the sense of those rights actually according with states' rights, then you'll have a GREAT party. The GOP needs to quickly get over its stranglehold on narrow-minded social values and recognize that there are a lot of us who don't fit the social mold but don't appreciate the tax and spend/let's talk to terrorists ways of the "new" democratic party. Read about the GOP of the 60s and 70s--more women were involved, some who even supported the ERA. Until the GOP can stop its "either/or" rhetoric, and one-up the Dems in this manner, it's going to be a very long fight back to the Hill, instead of what should be a prompt and short one.

JOEL...GLAD THAT YOU ARE
Good standing in the church! However you show some out- of -touch w/reality concerning the church! YOU seem to have some "hang-up" about the term "MORMON" I too served a mission and Iam a high Priest! IMHO "grubby" said it best
about Mitt! If you take a Palin Position ABOUT ABORTION that is fine. But you are putting your self above the Prophets!For the official position, and you should know this, Abortion
in case of Rape,Incess,Life of the Mother is definitely at great risk!But Pres. Hinkley said
after much fervent prayer! I say this w/all respect to a Bro. you can't teach me about the
church of Christ! It seems you need to be
taught?
As for BIG GVMNT. who is to determine BIG?
YOU? Smile. Have you ever been a Gov. among
a population of appx.85% ultra liberals?
I don't know if that last statement went over your head or not?
Iam sure we could go on and on and more than likely we would not agree on Mitt.But I notice you didn't compliment Romney for coming down on the side of LIFE every time as a Gov.! That is very revealing to me.
Have agreat day, Bro.Joel!
Elvis

We Have a Hero
We already have a hero: Her name is Sarah Palin. Her life is a real American success story the kind of which has been celebrated in the past. But the Obama propaganda machine, which includes the mainstream media was so afraid of her that they instead tarred her with dozens of smear stories and outright lies.

She is the only public figure from either party who can match Obama’s speaking ability, and she already exceeds his qualifications for the job. If that were not clear before the election it is patently obvious now. Of course that may not saying a whole lot since whoever runs against Obama in 2012 will be competing against an empty suit. But if the past election is any guide she has the one attribute which is important above all else: star power. Qualifications for the job no longer seem to matter, gaffes are unimportant since Obama has made dozens of them. So we might as well elect the person with the best stage presence.

My Heroes
My heroes are my ancestors. They came to America for a variety of reasons: a ship owner bringing supplies to the Colonies; a man who became an indentured servant just to get to America.

From the northern ports along the eastern seaboard, they migrated down the Shenandoah Valley. With every defense of their new home, they received land grants, and moved further south, then west.

The point is this: these people worked hard, held to their principles, believed in God and their own ability to make their way in a new land where instant gratification only meant self-satisfaction from a hard day’s work. They embraced their commitment to survive in a new land – to make a better life – and worked shoulder to shoulder with like minded neighbors to achieve this goal.

I am a product of their sacrifice and of their achievement. While they were largely proud Republicans (as noted in obituaries), they were even prouder Americans. When we as a nation stop labeling ourselves as liberal/conservative, Democrat/Republican, secular/spiritual and get back to identifying wrong-headed thinking and wrong-headed actions, not because they are identified with a label, but because they are wrong, only then will the United States return to the great nation she truly is.

Ancient Rome and the United States
Fred,

"In ancient Republican Rome, politicians who could relate to the under classes, by then allowed to vote, knew how to adopt their clothing, mannerisms, speech, spent alot of time posing as them when they ran for office. These were called populare candidates and it often worked for them. In Our present day Sarah Palin and Joe the plumber are perfect examples."

And because of this, Rome lost its direction and eventually failed. Are we on this same sliding board? I think so.

Wouldn't it be nice to go back to the original idea that you must own property to vote? Just food for thought. Don't beat me up too much over this.

If we look at the demographics of the last election, you might better understand my position.

Nuff said.

Stick to the Constitution
I'm all for the smaller, Constitutionally-restrained federal government the writer espouses, with meaningful state governments supplying any needful purpose remaining as the Constitution directs. However, sadly, we did lose that fight a hundred and fifty years ago. We have become an increasingly socialistic democracy and forgetful of the Constitutional republic we once were. All the incumbents and political candidates at the federal level should be forbidden to publicly address, in speech or in lawmaking, any subject which is not properly the purview of the federal government--such as education, welfare, health, same-sex marriage, and the entire entertainment industry, including sports. The federal government should, however, through the court system, prevent the States from denying its citizens their individual Constitutional rights: among them being free speech, the right to bear arms, and freedom of choice.

While reading the posts
a thought came to me.
The GOP is not fihjting to represent the people of America, their fighting to keep their jobs and doing poorly at it.

America needs someone who can read the U.S. Constitution and administer it, not someone who wants a dictatorship position for life.

America needs a "hero" a Romney/Palin ticket would be a great start.

AND, put Col. Oliver North in charge of the Pentagon first thing on Monday morning.

Islam is no longer content with Europe, it now wants the world and whether or not anyone cares to admit it, there will be another crusades!

Only this time the weapons and distruction will be Armoggeden.................for it is written so!

Foolish appeasers you have brought this upon all of the world.................



Abortion
I am not a religious person,but consider abortion to be wrong. However, I think we are getting tripped up in our own underwear with our adamant take no prisoners approach to this subject. I do not know the facts, but can easily surmise that most abortions happen on either the very liberal and/or ignorant peoples of our society. Do we really want more peoples of this genre in our society?
Outlawing something that is going to happen anyway just drives it underground. The more sensible approach would be to work toward revising the culture so abortion would not be considered an inconsequential solution to a problem.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE
a romney/palin for prez in 2012.

If only for the example and the message they would bring to the bully pulpit.

obama and his gang is a disaster!

Past Candidates
Right.
And McCain showed his inner-Saul, (and soul) to Palin's version of David.

Romney is too metrosexual.

Schmuckabee's pheasant-killing jokes show that he's nothing but an entertainer with the bad taste to joke about the game he dispatched (I'm pro-hunting, but I don't make fun of the animals I harvest.) And he's a true narcissist, like Edwards and Obama, who doesn't know what he doesn't know.

Ron Paul...seems like the leader of the Heaven's Gate cult, Marshall Applewhite.

Gingrich saw his shadow (too bad, because he's got a great way of presenting historical facts.)
Giuliani is too narcissistic.

Thompson seemed to die during the campaign - ("he's just asleep, not dead!")

The others...what others?
Like you, Mr. Goldberg, I like Cheney for Pres. And Gramm would be a fine VP.

I'll take Gingrich, though. Wouldn't mind seeing some of Ron Paul's platform adopted by the Republican Party, either.

Questions of Romney
He has many advantages as a candidate.

First, he has independent finances - we usually have the most trouble with those who need to start from scratch and must spend copious amounts of time fund raising - and are beholden to the contributors.

Second, he has already run - he has experience. Also, when he decided he was not doing well, he stepped aside for the apparently stronger McCain. He showed party loyalty.

Third, he looks good, stable, moral and has a strong family oriented background. He's already been put through the media meat grinder and has withstood the scrutiny.

He has what's needed at this point in American History - an appreciation of and the need for private enterprise and gov't fiscal responsibility. He has shown excellent organizational skills and an ability to rally disparate elements to a common purpose.

Sure, he has drawbacks - his record in MA wasn't exactly conservative - he made some mistakes but he's wiser for them. He realizes that the private sector is still the best way to deliver medical care. And he did show some backbone on some of the more bizarre social issues in that state.

But one thing I consider a strong plus for Romney - he understands the dangerous nature of Islam and the threat it poses to America and Western Civilization. He understands there's no appeasing it, or bargaining with it, as the left has.

Right now, it has an advocate in the White House - someone bent on advancing its vile beliefs while marginalizing and denigrating Judaism and Christianity.

This, just as it has been over many centuries in the past, is the fight of the 21st Century - in case you haven't been paying attention.

Leadership for today...
With all the Bush bashing on this site, I am often confused whether I am on a liberal Bush-hating site or a conservative Republican site?
Then come those who declare “we must get back to basic conservative principles”! What are those? The word “back” betrays it all to me! You all would like to turn back the times into 1950s, instead of dealing with reality as it is TODAY! Sorry, time-travel is not here yet!
The trade agreements are here to stay, they need to be changed to be slightly more American friendly! American manufacturing is GONE for GOOD! Those who have it, became our economy’s unconquerable foes! Deficits accumulated during Bush’s administration (mostly reasonably explainable) are skyrocketing under the present leadership of Obama, Pelosi and Reid! How that will be able to be turned around is the most difficult part of the next leadership! De-constructing Bush’s Patriot Act (that kept us safe for the past 7 years) will become difficult or impossible to be rebuilt to the level it was until Nov 2008! The dismantling of the CIA has begun in earnest, so the next hit from a “man-made disaster” is just a matter of time, and our military will be stuck in the mud of Afghanistan-Pakistan “overseas contingency operations” for the foreseeable future. We are prone from attacks even from our “trade partners”, on top of the jihadist terrorists!
What or who can save us? Who wants to sacrifice for US anything? And what are we, Republicans doing? Squabbling whether we should “compromise on gay-marriage or abortion”! Republicans would need a unifying force, and I am afraid what that will turn out to be, since most of you hate the new leaders, but are happily chiming in with their mantra of the past 8 years! Wake up people! Let’s put aside our dreams of “perfection” and compromise our social principles for the benefit of more pressing problems. A Mitt Romney-Rudy Giuliani ticket might save us ALL in 2012, if we cut out the crappy pettiness!

Expose the Liberals for What They Are
Mr. Goldberg,

Our best chance to win in 2012, is to expose the Liberals for what they truly are. If we discover why the main stream media suddenly all went Liberal, it would help. Then, find out why the ACLU has so much power in our nation and who is behind it. Expose Acorn for what it is and find out who was involved in turning it more Liberal than before. We know that George Soros was behind a great deal of this but the American people by and large don't even know who he is and what he did to England and France. Once the American people begin to realize they have been taken in, the work to regain our Democracy will have started in earnest. Personally, I like Mitt Romney, but I fear his religion might be a stumbling block and it shouldn't even be considered. Obama is still a mystery and once we track his real life, more voters will realize just what they have done. The transparency he promised is non-existant and most of his programs will fall by the wayside because they just won't work. I just hope the Liberals don't damage our nation too much before common sense can be brought back.

The hero we need is....
Captain Planet! Captain Planet and the Planeteers will save earth.

The power is yours!

Ron Paul
We need Ron Paul, he would head my dream ticket. Greg Johnson or any other libertarian sounds good too.

Joel-De Oppresso Liber - Ron Paul was right when he said we bought 9/11 on ourselves. Before you or anyone else panic, let me explain. First of all, Islam has some quite savage tenets. Sharia law is incompatible with much of the Western world. I don't condone radical Islamists.

However, the 9/11 hijackers attacked us not for religious reasons. Those were secondary motivations. The primary motivation was that the US military has a presence in Saudi Arabia, which as we know contains the cities of Mecca and Medina. We shouldn't be there, nor should AFRICOM exist. We can not have a small government at home and expect a huge government abroad. We need to worry about ourselves and stay out of other countries business.

Now, 9/11 is not America's fault, Ron Paul was not saying that it was. But he was saying that 9/11 could've been avoided if we didn't meddle in the afairs of other nations. From the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, to rdding the Iranian government of one dictator which lead to the rise of a worse one, to the arming of Saddam Hussein who used his American weapons on the Kurds and Kuwaiti's instead of the Iranians, to trying to force Western democracy in Iraq, our interventionist foreign policy continually gets us in trouble. Unless someone directly threatens us, we should leave them be. We're not the world's police.

Reality Check
Marriage - or civil unions - start by filling out and filing for a marriage license in the a government office in the town in which the ceremony will take place. Then, the couple makes a choice as to where to have the ceremony which unites them under the law - giving them rights in property, health decisions, for example. Some wed at Town Hall, some in churches, synagogues, mosques, temples, back yards, caterers, on a ship, from a parachute - the options are limitless. Some opt for a member of the clergy, some have a JP, judge, some have a friend "buy" a ministerage which allows for weddings. Regardless of the where or who - the proof of the ceremony MUST be registered at the Town Hall in which the wedding occurred. Why are we arguing over terms? There is no one size fits all. This is the time to state that we respect one another. We may not agree, but couples who chose have the right to obtain the protection under the law that is accorded to those who go through this process. Let's focus on what we believe in to shape our actions and allow others the same privilege to do the same.

Never give up hope
Look what happened when the Democrats gave up hope. President Obama based his whole campaign on hope and change. He wasn't talking about hope and change in the Republican party, he was talking about the old school Democrats. President Obama still didn't get what he wanted in cutting ties with the ways the old school Democrats ran the party. In fact they took President Obama from the day he was sworn in to now, handing him policies he should reverse for political reasons to please the far left. What President Obama tried to get away from, ended up controlling him and returning him to his far left liberal roots. This is not what we want in a hero of the Republican party. We want a person who belongs to themselves and not to a political social agenda and special interest groups.

Barack Obama won . . .
because a fawning media crammed him down our throats and refused to vet him. Period.

My heros! Hannity or Limbough
I really am having a tough team between these two "men" who never served in the armed services! It is really tough. I might have to give it Limbough since the liberals will hold it over Hannity for being a chicken not to follow through on his promise to undergo waterboarding for charity.

KEOPECTATE
JESUS DOES WIN!READ THE LAST CHAPTER.

Republican leadership must listen
Don't think for a minute that socialist like Obama, Pelosi, and Reid have a clue or care what conservatives and constitutional citizens believe or want. We do not have a president of "all" the people. The Republicans have no one to blame but themselves. Bush lost his veto pen, and his way on spending. McCain in no way is a conservative. He got 52 million votes, because of the fear of Obama. That fear was well founded. There will be a return to conservative values, but only after Obama has taken us far down the road to global socalism. If the Rep. leadership listens, and comes back to the contract with America and Reagan type leadership there may be hope for us.

HERO
GOOD LUCK IN FINDING ONE.

Why sacrifice the things that work?
It's funny how the first things that come up to sacrifice are the best issues you have. If you weren't all marking time on gay marriage you could be burying the Dems with it.

What you need to do is come up with a conservative way to keep business privatized while raising the living standards of the working class. Maybe some of that good old fashioned Christian open-handedness in your personal and business lives.

Glass Bead Maker
You bring up the stance of States like Oklahoma and texas that have passed laws? resolutions? notifications? Anyway, they say we are going to interpret the constitution strictly and exercise states rights as envisioned by the founding fathers. This could get reeeeeely nasty. Talk is cheap, but what happens if say Oklahoma declined to enforce federal edicts. At some point it becomes a power struggle to see who is boss. The Feds with hold money. Oklahoma refuses to pay federal taxes. The feds send troops to enforce collection. Our first Civil War started when the feds sent troops to confiscate a weapons cache near Bull Run Va. Will the citizens of Oklahoma repel federal troops? Would the fuse be lit over some Waco-type incident? Would a general uprising in support of a state insisting on states rights again take place? Could it succeed? What would the troops in the Military installations like Fort Bliss, Fort Sill, Fort Leavenworth, Camp Lejeune, Quantico, Fort Jackson do? No one knows these answers. It sounds to me like making a swan dive off a cliff hoping there is deep water at the bottom. Things have to be desperate to make something like that look attractive.

We live in interesting times.

If Sarah runs again
She won't be running with someone who acted like he did not want to win. Remember, McCain told his staff "don't use Obama's middle name," as if it were a bad word. McCain did not watch Sarah's back, in fact he stabbed it a few times and I believe he was jealous of the attention she was getting. That is why even to this day he won't say whether she would be a good candidate for president the next time around. Sarah will be able to make the decisions and say what she really means, wear what she wants and be the charming, popular, intelligent woman she is. And I hope she never again gives an interview to Katie Couric or John Gibson nor goes on that bigoted Oprah's show.

johninoregon
Bush and Cheney saved us from barbarism. It is the Muslim militants you need to be afraid of. I don't think Bush or Cheney are going to be flying any airplanes into buildings anytime soon.

Michael
I'm keeping it, brother. My faith is not and never has been in the government. I believe God gave us the president our country deserved, and we are reaping what we have sown.

Glenn
You are right about the Republicans not knowing what to believe in. When they actually start acting like the Republicans I voted for, those against big government, for lower taxes, against gay marriage, pro- life then they will start getting elected again. We need some sincere people, not politicians on both sides. People who say what they mean and mean what they say, not make it up as they go along and see what pleases people. People who don't parse every word, not able to answer a yes or no question without giving a speech. Democrats are even worse at this than Republicans and that is not saying much. As for neocons, I never knew what people meant by that, but if it means new conservatives who have left their base then I guess you are right.

dear "katepatate," and others
I too am not under that "pup tent." And, that tent is more than just the Democratic Party, here in the U.S. -- it is a VERY powerful force.

That said, there is always Hope. God isn't just going to desert us, and leave us in hell - under corrupt leaders who champion death - forever. That's not the way things work.

Keep the faith. :)

Vitter : My kind of Man
Vitter holding up FEMA appointment for local GOP political traction. Talk about selfish! I guess he needs local traction other than with his trojan condoms with the prostitutes he frequented. Good Christian!!!

Even Jesus could not win
If the good Lord himself, Jesus Christ, came to earth for a political season and ran for president the full forces of hell that is the liberal media would be out to get him and marginalize him. Heck, they do it now and he hasn't run for anything. That is just the liberal way, defame anyone you don't agree with. Sarah Palin is quite an attractive candidate, and look what they did and are still doing to her. I am still waiting for that democratic "big tent" they are always talking about. I was thrown out of their tent a long time ago because I am a Christian, against gay marriage and against abortion on demand. Where are their candidates who believe as I do? There tent is a pup tent.

Good luck finding your real selves. LOL.
It's funny how the neocons are still struggling between what they want to believe and what they think will get them the power they once had. Abortion? Gays? OK? No? It reminds me how they sold out to stay in power under Bush.

to Shovel Ready, etc.
Hey thanks for your clarifications - I do appreciate. And, frankly, I understand the reticence to support Gov. Palin, in light of just how insane a picture of her has been painted by the MSM - which has influenced so many. Then again, I remember the power I witnessed watching her, I remember the fire of the crowds, and I remember the integrity... I have faith (hopefully, with carefulness, at the same time) and do think she's a pretty amazing woman. 'Definitely the most inspired I've been by a political figure in a VERY long time.

Basically, to me, it feels like Palin is the only political leader that has the combination of courage, charisma, and intelligence to stab directly to the heart of the cancer of liberal-think, with charm and style. I loved it when I saw it last Fall... and, I look forward to seeing it again - this time, in full force.

For Dag:
You write: "...while you "pine" for Reagan, and all your IDIOTS on stage claimed to be Reagan..."

Huckabee didn't do this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV-eASa6I0s

GOP
I think for the GOP to survive, they have to stick to the principles that made them who they are. Antiabortion, small government, sticking to the constitution, in favor of small business people, strong military meaning protecting our country. Trying to please the dems is totally ridiculous, because the dems won't like them either way, so who cares.

What would Reagan do?
http://zfacts.com/p/318.html

OOPS!
That should read our neighborhood.

Joel D.
I don't know about your part of the woods, but around here the police are down to about 1/2 strength and need all the help they can get. Got a guy running a circular saw at 2:30 am? Come down and make out a complaint. They won't send a car out unless there's violence. I know a guy who lives in an area of the sheriffs jurisdiction that got so mad about the noise thay he called back and said if they didn't send out someone he'd take care of the guy. They came then and almost arrested him for making a threat. There's a woman who got caught 3 times dealing drugs in out neighborhood that is still out and running around. It wasn't pot either. The judicial system from the cops to the judges just don't do it.

talent scout...glass bead maker....joel
Talent- you make me laugh! Thanks!Heros stay out of your life!
Glass Bead Maker-Romney a smart man? Better than that, but who says the public wants a smart man in the Whitehouse?
Joel- unless you are an active "Mormon" you are not in a real good position to evaluate what
is a good "Mormon". But your thought have some points that I appreciate.But don't compare Reid
to Romney a big difference! Yes, he was for
free choice(abortion)But he changed his mind
just like Reagan! Did you like Reagan?
Romney came down on the side of life as a Gov.
that is fact! BTHW, Romney has been a Bishop
and Stake President(over about 5-8 Bishops)
sooooo,your statemnet about him not being a
good Mormon is lacking understanding.
But your consideration of voting for a "good Mormon" is appreciated. We have our sour apples
just like every group...BUT Mitt isn't one!
I sorta agree w/Talent..I don't need a hero!
Just give me great resume of major problem
solvings----- and Mitt has that to say the
least. Can you Imagine Mitt/Sarah ticket?
I can just hear the Demo-donkeys....the Barbie
Twins!Smile.
Long way off ,folks!
Elvis


have you noticed?
Have you noticed that if you dare mention R. P's name here the comment is expunged?

The right and the left both love to remove from your conscioussness what they dont wwant you to know. Hwer is there a mention about M.Sav. being black balled form England? No where!

censorship!

no need to wonder about the gop
"a big honking military and a few other bells and whistles for promoting the general welfare. My ideal ticket in 2008 would have been Cheney-Gramm. That's right, Dick Cheney and Phil Gramm: two old white guys who would crush our enemies and liberate our economy while shouting, "You kids get off my lawn!"

Mindless idiocy, drivel and pap. Hey moron, look at what Ron Pual is saying and how many people are following him and then look at your re-election numbers! then read Hayeks "Why I am not a conservative" or Ayn Rands, "conervatism an obituary" Maybe you can learn and wake up

Lonny,
Educate me, what are 'far righties'?
It is your term, define it please.
Was there a particular vote in Congress that would define them?
A particular platform policy or something that an elected official said or did that confirmed their 'far righties' status?

Lonny,Lonny,Lonny
'far righties' are not the fringe that silly folk like you believe them to be. Most of what they promote is what the majority of polled Americans say they are in favor of.
It is only the feeble minded that believe otherwise. Do you know what the Bush Doctrine is? Of coarse you don't.

Lonny,
You're nuts. You live in the state being slowly destroyed by Dems and Rinos. You live in the state where a majority, yes the majority said no to same sex marriage. Palins' "moral compass cracked". Better explain this one.

Please push all the moderates
out of the GOP. Please make sure that no GOP people can be elected if they are pro choice, or pro gay rights. Please make sure you nominate people who are supremely unqualified to even be the mayor of Wasilla, whose moral compass cracked long before she became a 'pit bull with lipstick'. See how the GOP is emasculated in CA by such litmus tests.

People like Jonah Goldberg and Hugh Hewitt laugh at people who believe in litmus tests, except when they see how the truly qualified candidates are destroyed when Rush or Laura takes them out.

I'm not giving you advice...as a still registered GOP who won't vote GOP until you realize that you should be more like Jack Kemp socially, I hope to see the GOP nationally go down in horrible flames. Only then will a truly viable, rational party be reborn. Let the 'far righties' run it for a while...Dems will hold every state except the deep south. Even Iowa is coming to the blue.

jonah nice read....
of course we had some talking points, but over all good.........

Palin was Quayled?
I keep reading passion. Real passion from everywhere on this site for the Governor of Alaska.

Myself, I see in her one of us, and maybe so do the posters here.
We came very close to having a public school educated mother only a breath away from real power. Someone who didn't have to go out for a burger, a beer or bowling to pretend she was not a lawyer, not a millionaire, and not Ivy League.
Trouble is, the talking heads saw one of their own in "the one". Never an accomplishment but tons of confidence, great prompter reading and a real cool gate.

One of ours was a serious threat to one of theirs. Consequently, she had to be Dan Quayled. She was. I'm not sure if she can recover. Will the feeble minded ever take her seriously?

Party Republicans-Power Withdrawl
This read reminds me of the Be Like Mike commercials. Only it's be like Dems. Kat Parker is one of the leaders of the band.
To party Republicans power is a potent aphrodisiac. They crave it and will do anything to get it back. Conservative republicans can do without.
No mantra, hero, heroine, marketing package, move to the center or other such gimmicks are going to work. As soon as the party Republicans to there they are going to lose the conservative wing of the base. It will be a tail chasing exercise.
For those who believe that principles matter, they know that Obama is setting himself a trap. When it is sprung the nation will turn on him. Well, not him per se but his style of government and the underlying principles that give it substance.
Then, and only then will Conservatives remind the nation that we know a better way.
For now, we must wait and hold our principles. If we don't the party will destruct.

What We Need
The GOP should only support true heros and fighters for the cause. Party members should require that any candidate aspiring to high office must kill a liberal in single combat.

No more jellyfish GOP office holders. We want warriors.

Conservatives having the
knockdown dragout fight on wether or not to throw their own beliefs overboard says it all.
Conservatives don't have a fight over that, the answer was, is, and will remain NO!
The problem is, half the republicans are not conservatives, the other half are conservatives mostly, and the few that would be real conservatives are now libertarians or constitutionalists - yet the enemy lib and their media claim every single one of you republicans is a right wing religious zealout kkk neanderthal, and that's why "you're having an argument on what to do".
The answer of course for you is to fly to the left like a bunch of idiot fairies, just like you have been, while you "pine" for Reagan, and all your IDIOTS on stage claimed to be Reagan - it was EMBARRASSING.
I can hardly wait till we get someone who isn't lincoln or reagan reincarnate - GO TO FREAKING INDIA YOU FRUITLOOPS!
Oh, well, gee, we had one, Palin. She beat the crooks over the head with a stick, had her babies, is married only once to the same person - HOLY MOSES SHE JUST BROKE EVEN THE REAGAN RECORD!
What a bunch of fools. McShame and his insane posse then ripped on her, or libs made it up - who the heck knows, but the repubs will beat themselves into left wing slobbering doofuses, just give big brother a bit more time.
Idiot dmubo is taking over the economy and the pubs cower and gawk. Great.

No
... but call me when the body parts fit.

To Michael in CO
I assume your comment "weak-kneed conservatives try to "make nice" with people who support policies that kill babies and destroy marriage (silly.) Those who aren't concerned with "offending" others, i.e., who actually care about saving America from political-correctness and bad ideas" was targeted at my last post. I am fully in support of prolife and man-woman marriage, with strong knees whenever I have an opportunity to educate the uninformed. My point is we need a strategy to win congress and the WH. Winning the argumnent over gays and the unborn but losing the WH and congress is not a good scenario. Maybe I'm wrong on Palin...there is a lot to like, but I don't think she can win. Personally I'm getting excited about Newt. I'm sure someone will tell me I'm misguided ;-)

Gulliti
I'm not a Republican, so I don't know exactly who their heroes are but I haven't heard any of my Republican friends mention anyone on your list as their hero.

You make the incredibly stupid claim that the Republicans will be better off by getting rid of Hannity, Limbaugh, etc. I guarantee you that if you polled Sean Hannitys listeners you would find that they overwhelmingly support Republicans over Democrats. Please tell me how getting rid of millions of supportive voters is going to help the Republican Party.

I have a better idea. If they want support from people like me they can try returning to the principles that caused people like me to vote for them and stop trying to act like Democrats.

Blame
There is plenty of "blame" to go around. Certainly Republican leadership seemed to be blind as a bat during this last campaign. George W. Bush was a big disappointment in some areas. The GOP primary process needs a good overhaul. Allowing Democrats to help pick our nominee is a mistake. Our nominee was more or less picked by the media and the GOP elite.

Speaking of the media let's not forget the enormous power they have. They used it effectively in this last election, and continue to do so. As long as the far left has a choke-hold on our media we have an uphill battle. We need to work studiously on effective ways to provide more alternative channels of information to the public.

palin
man i hope you guys are right and the gop gets behind palin. if i had to pick one candidate that would guarantee obama's reelection it would be ol' sarah barracuda lol. can we get rush on the bottom of the ticket too?

One more thing, Tammy the toad
I've got my arsenal and if the stuff hits the fan, the liberats will kick their sense of entitlement into overdrive and attempt to take what they need to survive. If that happens, I expect to have a pile of dead liberats outside my door, so stay in IL. There are far too many of your FIB brothers and sisters coming over here, further infecting our state with their liberat ways.

Stormy for the Leader of GOP !
She can get old kooks at GOP really excited...

More so than Palin...

http://draftstormy.com/

Kirk
my sentiments exactly! Tammy the toad is also on her knees for the Magical Mystical Negro (LA Times). She is a typical liberat, probably an employee of what is probably the most corrupt state government in the U.S. and is trying to defend her choice of a politician out of that system. If she works for an "evil corporation", again, like all liberats, she is proving what a hypocrite she is. Yesterday, she claimed that her husband is a Republican. Yea, right, he's most likely a RINO, because it is very obvious who wears the pants in their home.

You know what Tammy, we could probably run Sarah Palin in 2012 and with the same type of PR machine that your Dear Leader had, we could get her elected. By that time, most of the MSM will be out of business and their liberat employees will be begging Fox for jobs! Now that, would be a sight to behold!



Jeff in WA
Whats wrong with Palin?

Not a communicator? She seemed to do just fine on that. Remember that she did better in her debate than people expected.

Not a power house? I would say that is one thing that she definiately is. If you don't like her than you don't like her, but you have to admit that she got people excited.

One of the biggest strenghts of Palin is that she would have the power to be able to pull in NEW voters, not just keep the old ones.

When Huckabee ran in this primary, he was bringing in lots of new voters as well as old or regular voters.

Half the poeple in this nation don't vote.

A good Conservative has the power to be able to keep all the regular voters as well as bring in new voters.

A liberal or a moderate brings in no new voters at all, while also lossing even the regular voters who normally have voted for their party.

One more thing about Palin
Can we just clearly remember that it was Gov. Palin who was brave enough to publically tell the truth about wolf-in-sheep's-clothing Obama, which not only fired up conservatives who know good from evil, but also was gutsy enough to bring the entire left-wing establishment down on her neck / family / reputation / everything. She fought for you, and THAT is the kind of fearless leadership that will save this country from its own internal corruption at the hands of the liberals and RINOs.

Palin
I think it's obvious to anybody who's willing to look beyond his-or-her ego that Sarah Palin is a natural leader for this country, as well as for the Republican Party. Mitt Romney is competent, and presidential, but Gov. Palin has that extra something that is out of this world, something that people either get behind with gusto or resist violently with the same gusto. Some of that resistance seeps into the conservative realm, as weak-kneed conservatives try to "make nice" with people who support policies that kill babies and destroy marriage (silly.) Those who aren't concerned with "offending" others, i.e., who actually care about saving America from political-correctness and bad ideas, can tell that Sarah has integrity and power - and, a total fearlessness that no other candidate in recent history has even CLOSE to exhibited. She is the one. She is our leader.

tammy
was it not the libs who said "i would give him a bjob, because he fights for womens rights" rep. from NOW. "he sends a tingling feeling down my leg" reporter on cble news net work. Just two examples of this, and there are hundreds more. Please go back to where you came from. There are many smart libs here to argue points. You are not one of them.
Kirk

Jonah
Good column. I to want to see the fed. gov. cut by 60-70%. I do not believe it is a dream, I believe it is possable. The way the fed is printing money, and no one buying are debt, will lead to collapse. The people will come to realize that gov. can not, and should not do everything. The cap and trade will just push this along faster. I believe there will be severe voter backlash in 2010.
Folks remmber 7-4-09 tea partys across the nation.
Kirk

TNconservative...please, not Palin
For all her qualities, Palin is not the communicator or powerhouse we need, nor can she compete with Obama. Game over if she is the candidate.

We're having the wrong debate...
Stop thinking Republicans vs. Democrats. They're the same thing...they even switch back and forth between parties. We need to think in terms of Nationalists (or in Obama's case National Socialists) vs. Federalists. The debate should be on the size and scope of government. Republicans and Democrats are both Nationalists who think all rights flow from national government through the states to the people when it really flows from the people through the states to the national government. Democrats love big government and know it. Republicans love big government and refuse to accept it...that's why they keep having these debates. Disagree? Why is it Republicans don't want government to tell us what to do about raising/educating our kids and owning our guns, but its perfectly OK for Government to tell gay people who they can marry or businesses they can't hire foreigners. You're either for big government or you're not. There is no middle ground on that point.

TNConservative
The main thing to keep in mind is no liberals, no RINOs, not even moderates.

The people want a solid strong conservative, which they also trust."


*****
Yes absolutely, I agree. Please, please, please. We need more time in the White House
and in the Congress, to get our agenda taken
care of. Run Palin, Run Limbaugh, Run
Mike Savage, Run any and every crackpot you
can find.

Palin could work.
Put Palin on top of the ticket.

We've already tried the VP thing and it did give a lot more life to John McCain's dead chances of ever trying to win.

The main thing to keep in mind is no liberals, no RINOs, not even moderates.

The people want a solid strong conservative, which they also trust.


REPUBLICANS HAVE SEVERAL HEROS
There are plenty of Republicans heroes; they are the people like Olympia Snowe, Colin Powell and Lindsey Graham, Christine Todd Whitman and columnist David Brooks who have been admonishing the rank and file of the party of the need to be inclusive and part company with the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter and the Club for Growth.

With those who identify as Republicans falls somewhere around 21% to 26% and with those identifying as Conservatives coming in at roughly 35% of the electorate, there is no way that the GOP can regain political momentum without reaching out to minorities, the young and political independents who are presently alienated by the hard Right's culture of saying “NO” to the current, popularly elected Obama Administration. The combo of Dick Cheney, who has an approval rating in the teens and Phil Gramm, who is one of the chief architects of the present financial meltdown, is just the kind of hard right pipe dream that would lead to continuing electoral failure and prolonged disarray in the GOP.

Two quotes by the abovementioned tell of the road back for the GOP:

Olympia Snowe: “”But it is equally certain that we cannot prevail in the future without moderates.”

Lindsey Graham: “Do you really believe that we lost 18-to-34-year-olds by 19 percent, or we lost Hispanic voters, because we are not conservative enough?” he said. “No. This is a ridiculous line of thought. The truth is we lost young people because our Republican brand is tainted.”

If the GOP is to regain any degree of political momentum it will be by saying goodbye to the extreme rightwing zealots and coming to terms with the reality that America is neither center right nor a center left political environment and that neither party can hope to govern without the independents, who are increasingly affluent, educated, politically astute and turned off by the antics of the likes of the Limbaughs, Hannitys and Coulters of the world.


I Agree Will.
People talk about what conservatives need to do differently and most of it is bad advice.

One thing that most conservatives do need to do differently is change the way they view being able to win an election.

That is that many conservatives have this idea of the "war chest" through which they can run an obscene amount of commercials, and that is pretty much all that is done.

People don't respond well to that, and even though I will often like the candidate and will vote for them I will grow very ready for the commericals to end. I don't think that is the way that Reagan did it.

You go out there and you shake hands, lots and lots of hands, sign lots of yard signs, and hold many events and debates. Everyday the candidate should be somewhere meeting people on a tour that is very involved with the area which they hope to win. To not do all of this and just pay to run an obscene amount of commericals is just lazy.

Do run commericals but don't make that the only thing. And let groups or organizations do the attack ads, not you personally. On your ads just talk about what your all about. Remember Huck's Christmas ad? The opposition to him hated it, but the people loved it and responded to it very very well.

Not too long ago there was a special election for NY's 20th district which the Republican only narrowly lost like razon thin, and the Republican said that all the attack ads actually hurt him rather than helped him.

Rhetoric Versus Principle
If we voted on a platform rather than rhetoric we would only have a handful of liberals in government. If a budget were proposed and laid out in simple terms, who'd vote for waste and gluttony? Who'd vote for implementing pop-morals?
Where would liberals be without deception?
If a conservative could utter the word homosexual without an immediate declaration of "hate," maybe the country would agree that the state has no interest in such a relationship. Sure we can make accommodations so one individual can have certain legal rights, but the state has no vested interest in such a relationship.
If abortion wasn't a manifestation of "angry white men," "trying to oppress women," maybe surgically terminating a pregnancy out of convenience would be duly seen as a monstrosity. Nor would we have Judas goat women (professing to be advancing the cause of women) adamantly in fever of fellow women receiving one should they feel so inclined.
The converse to liberalism in summation: Every child deserves two parents, every family deserves a fair portion of what it earns, we have the right to protect and defend our families and our nation. Learn from history and continue, or adapt, accordingly.

Will, two words:
Wr
Ong.

Huckabee cannot hang against Barack Obama. Plus he's too soft. We don't want ANYONE who couldn't beat McCain.

I know this will rankle some, but Newt/Palin is a ticket that could do some SERIOUS damage to Obama, while actually advancing some new ideas.

Tammy
Didn't Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot et al kill enough people in the 20th century for you. You have to bring that 20th century philosophy into the 21st. Spare me your good intentions, look what you've done.

I still say #1 problem is GOP disconnect
I agree with Jonah to a point..

Cheney still had wealth as VPres and he appeared to get wealthier as 401k's were shrinking and houses were being abandoned because after paying $4 at the pump, lots of middle class baby boomers realized they were actually poor, replaceable, and owed more than they could afford. Who were these folks going to blaim?

They voted "No" to the GOP and "Yes" to Obama because suddenly they were getting unemployment benefits for the first time and Obama promised to "Stimulate" the economy.

They blaim Bush for using bad info to put us at war not with al Quaida but IRAQ. They blaimed Bush because these folks feel Bush was sleeping at the wheel, sulking because Iraq was unpopular, and benefitting from their expensive gas.

They still watch CNN but they are beginning to watch Fox as well until someone says "Bush" then they'd rather watch "The Weather Channel."

We have got to find better and we're getting there. Better leave Mitt, Jeb, Huckabee, McCain, out there "Listening" because these folks aren't going to come back for them unless THE LORD himself enlightens them. The Listeners already had plenty of chances.

They refuse to see that Bush was up at times against his own party because the media was HAMMERING him. He did try to get sound economic advise but the Libs, gosh, they've had alot of money behind them for awhile. They also control much of the media, especially on the web, which is where the Uber-Dems are going for news these days.

How to Win
Want to win the next election? Need someone likable, conservative, and able to connect to Main Street?

Three words:

Huck
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bee

Cruz
I agree we're just in the preliminaries. It'll hash out in a year or two. In the meantime, we need to keep insisting on and trumpeting conservative values.

Couple of names, though.... John Kasich (if he completes the full step back in to gov't) and David Petraeus (if he'd consider the first step into politics).

Re : jax33
They had to stop the listening tour as Rush showed up for the Pizza....

pubbies
The pubbies are going on a listening tour.In that bunch,there are two of them that don't like conservatives.McCain and Jeb Bush.

Deornwulf
I agree with all but the environmental protection agency. I have been fishing on a river here and had Oil come floating down the feeder creek where I was fishing. I got the number for the E.P.A. and called and they had someone there in 1 1/2 hrs. They traced the slick to the origin and caught the guy that was dumping oil from his car into the feeder creek. I heard he got a hefty fine and a threat of jail for any repeats. I give them an atta' boy for that one. We can't continue to allow ignorant people to continue stupid stunts like that as that is the water we get our drinking water from not to mention many a tasty fish.

Deornwulf
Got my vote

Re : Richard
Joe The Plumber was all for leading the GOP.

He got upset that he did not get the 150K clothing budget from the RNC.

and he left GOP.

Great loss for the GOP.

Now they are hoping that same thing won't happen with Tito the Builder.

Reagan - Only Prez who was a Union Boss
Anything for a buck..

"Reagan jumped into union politics, and was elected to five terms as president of the Screen Actors Guild, a labor union for movie actors. As SAG President he traveled across the country giving speeches on behalf of actors. Until the 1950s Reagan was an avid liberal Democrat who strongly supported the New Deal of Franklin D. Roosevelt and the Fair Deal of Harry S. Truman. He often campaigned on behalf of the New Deal Coalition.

Reagan was thus the only president to lead a labor union, a bastion of liberalism !!

We Don't Need Another Hero (continued)
This morning on my blog, conservativenorthwest, I added a posting-kind of inspired by Mr Goldberg.

I see the U.S. Political system so much like the coliseum or ancient Rome and our candidates similar to the gladiators. The media are the lions and the American People the cheering crowds.

We don't need more heroes-more gladiators for the games. What we need are the Christians, the ones who were intended as sacrifices or sport but through their strength of character and their ability to face what amounted to certain death with peace and calm instead of fear or anger, changed tone of the arena and eventually changed the world.

We need those people with a servant spirit- who will serve their country for the good of the country, and not for their own fortune or political gain.

Focus on core principles
The MSM media and liberal politicians will continue to paint us the two-pillar party of anti-abortion and anti gay rights until we can successfully get on offense via a gifted communicator. We need to get behind a candidate who supports conservative views on abortion and gay rights, but who will center the conversation around size of govt, growing the private sector and reestablishing strong intelligence and armed forces. We need to have confidence that our candidate will advocate anti-abortion and anti-gay marraige when in office, but not make it a central part of winning an election. The left will ignore everything else we have to say if we continue to play defense on these issues.

Fine! I'll run for President
Just convince my wife that I should. She hates politics and despises the media.

But first, you decide if I would be the POTUS you would want by this list of executive orders.

1. Disband the Federal Department of Education
2. Disband the Environmental Protection Agency
3. Disband the Federal Housing Authority and any lending agencies run by the government.
4. Place the Energy Department under the Interior Department.
5. Declare the drug war over and decriminalize drug use at the Federal Level. (Let the states figure it out.)
6. Resolution insisting Congress consider all expenditures as single line items.
7. Resolution asking Governors to pass an amendment requiring all spending bills to have a 2/3 majority to pass.

That would be just my first day.

Hero
It wasn't that long ago that Joe The Plumber was the hero everyone was looking for.

What happened?


IMO--
Personally, I would like to see a POTUS and VP ticket of Sheriff Joe Arpaio, and General Petraeus. Two very solid, follow the law, patriotic, conservative, pro Americans.

I wish to hell
we'd get out of the morality business all together, and get back to Goldwater Republicanism, individual liberty, personal responsibility, and freedom from government intrusion in our personal lives and businesses.

There is nothing, NOTHING in the Constitution about anybody in government having a goddamned thing to say about people's private morality.

Let states be states, and let the federal government shrink down to where it should be.

We Are In the Prelims
I believe there is a leader out there - they are just biding their time, being smart, watching the field, and figuring out the right approach.

The message has to be clear, unapologetic and articulated well. (ie able to speak without a teleprompter)

The messenger has to be charismatic, appealing and able to educate the sycophants.

They need to be able to relate to the tea parties.

In the mean time, stock up and hunker down.

Goldberg:
Liberal dogma is settled: The government should do good, where it can, whenever it can. "

****
Yes. That would probably suffice as our motto.
We know where we stand. Of course, many call
us racist and anti-constitutionalists, un-
American - all poppycock, but they don't know
what else to say because who can say something
flat out negative about TO DO GOOD.

The reason why the Right is always floundering
in its ideas is because you always have to drag in outsiders to get the votes needed to
win an election.

If you stuck to your absolute core values -
"We are the party of business, leave us alone"
and "If it was good enough for the 18C mentality, it is good enough for us." - you
would never win an election.

So you embrace the gun rights nuts (give me
my arsenal), and you embrace the Christian
right and their hundreds of Thou Shalt Nots,
you ignore constitutional rights of others
because those rights are pretty much in tact
for anyone who is rich, and it is so very easy
to call the non-rich lazy and incompetent.
You also recognize - bright people that you
are - that the more power other people have, the more diminished are your own.

You engage in catchy, rabble rousing slogans
like "Guns don't Kill" and the Left is "Pro-
Abortion and Anti-Life." You bow down and kiss the ground in front of Limbaugh. I mean,
really, how pathetic can you get.

If you want to survive, or if you want America
to survive its current backwoods mentality in
certain sectors of our population, you need to
make some major, major changes. We are NOT
in the 18th C.

Kudos to Oklahoma
I am glad to hear that some states have decided to stand up the the Federal Mobster and tell him to take his Federal money and federal nanny state rules and stick it. I hope that the Federal Government learns quickly that they can't send troops to every state to support their unconstitutional policies. I am letting my state representatives know I expect them to vote in support of Alabama declaring its sovereignty. Our Governor already told the Feds we don't want their stimulous money because of the strings.

The Reagan coalition was built on
tax payers vs. tax spenders. So long as the Republicans can remember that the plurality is tax payers (who prefer less government spending) it will continue to win elections. If the Republicans "lose their way" as they did during the Bush years, and start spending like Democrats, then they'll lose elections. It's as simple as that -- it's the SPENDING, stupid!

When Republicans wallow in the social issues, that's when they start losing voters. Gingrich's "contract with America" emphasized the small government, lower taxes, less spending programs and only lightly touched on the social issues that are so popular with the evangelical Christian right. Unfortunately, following Christian though (even the conservative right Christians) eventually leads to the same altruism-based big-spending, socialist programs. Christianity and Socialism are almost the same, except for the belief in God.

Leave God to the people and run the secular government (as provided in the First Amendment) that uses appropriate and minimum spending to fulfill the roles of the national government. Then pay attention to the 10th Amendment and let the individual States take care of the rest. If California wants abortion on demand -- and Louisiana prefers to make abortion illegal -- so be it.

The Democrats can't seem to stay out of my wallet and the Republicans can't seem to stay out of my bedroom or doctor's office. Pay attention to the basic principles. Ignore the rest.

My thoughts continued
I agree with Joel-De Oppresso Liber (Comment #44) about Ron Paul and about the choices we had for Republican candidates. I really liked Fred Thompson, but he just didn't really have the heart to fight the fight. I think he thought he could announce his candidacy and he would be swept in. I also agree that the Fed Government has WAAAAY overstepped its authority and sheeple just take it because they don't think they can fight it or they want the nanny state handouts. We have become a nation of wusses!

Here is one suggestion...
for a hero, Adrian Murray speaking at a rally in Ft. Worth:

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxoYhzF2phw

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YMasi0pIvA

The problem is ....
Most of the really smart conservatives who really have the intelligence to figure out what needs to be done to right the ship are also smart enough to know they want no part of the ugly mud slinging, personal life investigations, slanderous accusations, character assassination, nasty misquoting crap that a person has to put up with to run a campaign or hold political office. I believe the Office of the President is too big a job for one person. Thomas Sowell, Herman Cain, and some of the other Columnist here on Townhall would be heads above most of the current crop of politicians, but all are smart enough to know they don't want that job. That is the other problem; we have politicians, not statesmen. We have people who want to be in charge and in control, not people who want to set the government back to what it originally was envisioned to be by our founders.

Joey
Just what is wrong with marriage? I've been married to the same woman for 32 years and would not want anyone else. If you find the right woman, it's the best thing in the world. I also help her clean, took care of the kids, and yes I've done windows. A good father and husband does all of them.

Stedes, you miss the point...
He goes on in the Cheney / Grahmm vein KNOWING IT'S OUT OF TOUCH. Can you even read?

We had a dose of reality: running tepid moderate milquetoast candidates who revile conservative principles LOSES ELECTIONS. The youth? God help us if the views and life experience of a 20-something are the rudder that steers the ship of state.

As for ridig ideologies, look no further than the left:
-Opposition to even the most reasonable restrictions on abortion.
-environmental radicalism
-100% opposition to drilling & nuclear power
-100% opposition to any healthcare reform that comes from the private sector
-Opposition to border enforcement
-Opposition to intelligence gathering that helps keep our people safe.
-100%, lock-step commitment to the belief that government is the solution to all problems.
-Commitment to business as usual in our failing public schools.

And you say WE'RE RIGID?

We Don't Need Anothe Hero
I can't help thinking of what my drill instructor told me in boot camp-now 25 years past. Taking to us raw recruits, he asked the question "who wants to be a hero?" (he pronounced it 'HE-Row') We were young and eager and most of us wanted just that.

Then he explained that "heroes" were usually people who did something extremely stupid at the right time and got extremely lucky. Heroes usually died doing this heroic thing as well. While our sense of honor compels us to do these "death defying" acts of heroism, most can be avoided by people doing the smart thing at the right time.

We don't need another hero as a political candidate. We need somebody with "horse sense"-the ability to see what's best and the integrity to do it. We need somebody that will look beyond the present and the polls and fight for the future of our nation. We need somebody with strength of character and faith in God. We need somebody with backbone, courage, and leadership. We need somebody who knows his own heart.

... and when history is written, he will not be called a hero. He will be called an American.

Sarah Palin was hammered
and yes, had ONE bad interview with Katie Couric -- but did you all see that for 2 weeks after she gave her barn burner speech and the RNC -- the McCain/Palin ticket was ahead!! Because of Sarah Palin.

But even after the loss, Sarah Palin's facebook membership GREW to 500,000 people, and Team Sarah, formed in early Sept. has over 68,000 members. The enthusiasm for Sarah Palin still grows and gets stronger. She's a fighter. Instead of just hearing about her, do your own research about her phenomonal record in Alaska, and how she fought corruption, took on the Old Boys Network and WON. SHE'S THE FACE! SHE HAS THE CHARISMA! SHE HAS THE BEAUTY! SHE'S EVEN ONE OF US -- ONLY MUCH MORE ACCOMPLISHED.

Mom in Wisconsin

You Don't Need a Hero
You need a dose of reality....

You TH folks are such Uncompromisingly rigid ideologs, so much in love with your principles at the expense of what is good for society. You have become a self-contained group that just keeps reinforcing each others beliefs. An extreme right-wing sub-culture that is out of step with the rest of America. Especially the youth.

Cheney/Grahmm will really connect with the youth. Two old White men. I mean how out of touch can you really be?

Personally I love reading this stuff. Very entertaining and sad. It is all a matter of time before you self-imploed and become political dinasours...

Joel-De Oppresso Liber;
Agree, really like Glenn and he has made me a better student of American history and the rights we do have as citizens of a nation founded on Godly principles. I have great faith in our Christian states, even though our president could care less about our Christian values. This is a rally to God and our history many have needed.
Re-Tea on July 4th. Your state capital for states rights!

Gays and Abortion
We conservatives and registered Republicans should never back down on the issues of abortion or gay marriage. However, we should recognize that these two human frailties have been with us for a lot longer than any of us have been around, and all the ranting and raving against them does nothing to eliminate them. I was a sailor in the US Navy in the sixties, and we had qu--rs on board the ship - everybody knew it, but it did not affect the job we did. They were just thought of as qu--r! And women were getting abortions fifty, a hundred, five hundred years ago. That practice has only been cleaned up with physicians who are willing to sin by providing death to unborn babies. It will not change. Democrats tend to be amoral, more so than conservatives. They lie, cheat, kill, commit immoral acts, etc., etc. Sure that's a broad paintbrush, but in the end, is relevantly truer, than what can be said of conservative.
Just my thoughts..........

gop hero
how about rush? that would be great. limbaugh/palin in '12. rush would trounce obama in a debate right? so lets get it going townies.start donating to rush so he doesn't have to take a pay cut. oh and joel your idea of no representation without taxation sounds awfully close to a poll tax to me. isn't that unconstitutional? or should we bend the rules just this one time?

The States May Come to Rescue
They may be our Hero!
Mitt Romney saved the Olympics for this state. We were behind schdule and running out of money, he saved the Winter olympics for America. Smart Man

Montana just filed to be a Sovereign state and it passed. Our state is working on the Patrick Henry Caucus to make us a Sovereign state, love it! Thank God there are people at the local level that are just saying NO to obama! You folks in the big cities depend on us in fly over country for just about everything.

Nope the states are going to take care
Hooray for Oklahoma!

The state law passed today, 37 to 9, had a few liberals in the mix, an amendment to place the Ten Commandments on the front entrance to the state capitol. The feds in D.C., along with the ACLU, said it would be a mistake. Hey this is a conservative state, based on Christian values...!
Guess what..........We did it anyway.
*We recently passed a law in the state to incarcerate all illegal immigrants, and ship them back to where they came from, unless they want to get a green card and become an American citizen. They all scattered. Hope we didn't send any of them to your state. This was against the advice of the Federal Government, and the ACLU, they said it would be a mistake.
Guess what..........we did it anyway.
*Yesterday we passed a law to include DNA samples from any and all illegals to the Oklahoma database, for criminal investigative purposes. Pelosi said it was unconstitutional.
Guess what........We did it anyway.
*Several weeks ago, we passed a law, declaring Oklahoma as a Sovereign state, not under the Federal Government directives. That, for your information, makes Oklahoma and Texas the only states to do so. Guess what.........More states are likely to follow. Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, both Carolina's, Tennessee, Kentucky, Missouri, Arkansas, West Virginia, just to name a few. Should Mississippi act, so will Florida. Save your confederate money, it appears the South is about to rise up once again.
*The federal Government has made bold steps to take away our guns. Oklahoma, a week ago, passed a law confirming people in this state have the right to bear arms and transport them in their vehicles. I'm sure that was a set back for the Kennedys and Ms Pelosi.
Guess what..........We did it anyway.
*By the way, Obama does not like any of this.
Guess what....Who cares...We're doing it anyway.

Two words...
Newt. Gingrich.

Another Calvin Coolidge
Find one like him. Said little.Did less.Slept alot.Stayed out of trouble.Got the hell out of town in time.

Ron Paul
When it comes to political heroes, I would go with Ron Paul. He would be on my ideal ticket. He's the only one willing to go against the flow and stick to the constitution, even if it means being castigated by his own party. He does what good men are supposed to do and that's the right thing, even when so many pressures are working against him.

Obama is a stuttering, sputtering
Speaker without the teleprompter.
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Ken writes:
"But some of the Obama-bashing borders on silliness. Teleprompters..."

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Its accurate
On top of it being accurate, its the only response to how smart he is, ha.

Never seen so many tongues worshipers in my life as the the democrats of today.

This guy has never done a single thing by his own creative ability.
He has taken advantage of what others built and gave him.

His tongues walks across the Universe and the world and you all fall down and worship the moron.
he really is a moron.

This is not name calling, its calling it like it is

Last thing I need is a hero
All I need is all the hero's to mind their own damn business and I will mind mine.

Individual v. collective
Is what our differences are
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Fred writes: - 7:49 AM EST
After looking at Townhall for two years
I think that the biggest problem held by the conservative right is that they cannot join into America as a changing, fluid, experimental society but want a fixed, regimented fantasy of a society that never really existed but which they continue to use a some kind of standard.
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Not even close
I want individual liberty this country is Founded on that separates duties and responsibilities.

The incorporation of all power into the hands of 535 people in Washington DC is contrary to Liberty and Freedom of choice for the 300 million individuals.

I hate a one size fits all way of thinking.

Except for the basics the Constitution spells out in assigned duties and limitations.

The Constitution is the job description and should never be ignored by the hired hands in government.

Those people have no more wisdom or smarts in how to run my life than I do.
This is what is offensive about you socialists, you think as a group and not as individuals.
You choose a group leader and then follow him like sheep, and it disgusts free thinking men, Americans.

It is not America to think as a collective.

The Foundation is laid, leave that alone and you do with your life whatever you wish, but stay out of my business and I will stay out of yours

Jonah's right
Full disclosure: I'm an Obama-supporting liberal Democrat.

And Jonah touches on something which seems appalling obvious to me. The right is obsessed with bashing Obama more than promoting, well, someone else.

I don't think there's anything wrong about Obama-bashing per se; it's part of the political game (and Lord knows, liberals bashed Bush plenty in the past 8 years). But some of the Obama-bashing borders on silliness. Teleprompters and Dijon mustard? Seriously? It all wreaks of desparation. It gets old.

The GOP *does* need a "hero" to rally around, rather than a Democrat to rally against. Republicans were, IMHO, too quick to rally around Sarah Palin -- she was charasmatic and all, but it didn't take long to see that she just didn't have the goods (the knowledge, frankly) to play at the highest level. A political hero needs to have both style AND substance, and right now, the GOP is bickering over what the substance of their party should be. And even if that's resolved, they still lack anybody with style who can project that substance.

This things WILL be resolved, eventually. Politics, after all, is cyclical. But it looks like Dems might be riding the crest for several more election cycles, unless the GOP starts to get its act together soon.

Jonah's Ticket
Dick Cheney is one of the smartest, most articulate men in politics. He gave up a most rewarding job to serve and was vilified by the media.

Phil Gramm told Americans to quit whining and DO something to better themselves and was derided as cruel and uncaring.

People today vote for the man who promises them the most. As it has been said before, "When you rob Peter to pay Paul, you will always have the support of Paul."

That is what our society is becoming.

I firmly believe that our Social Contract is the Constitution. If you wish to change it, rely on the process denoted in it for change. Do not rely on lawyers and judges to legislate from the bench, thereby bypassing the built in process for change.

Pistol
I'm in the same position. Everything's paid off - the house, the cars, everything. I'm 30 miles from the downtown area, in the country, but will be able to see the fires and the smoke and am really anxious to see the carnage on the news.

The girlfriend and I have been accumulating food and the like, but not going too overboard. So even if it's shown that our messiah can indeed feed the masses with a loaf of bread and a fish, we won't be out anything since we'll use it all anyway.

I am struggling with the best option for any zombies that might find their way out here. I like the 6.5 Grendel and the 6.8SPC on the AR-15 platform. Little recoil but the same ballistics as the .308.

Oh well, I guess I'll just have to try them both.

I do so... reluctantly.

I have to agree with Jonah, simply because reality forces me to do so.

Many posters have been spot on, when in the past they have stated that conservatism works every time it's been tried. Because not just does conservatism resonate with a main-stream and a right-center America... it also delivers.

But, and a big however... with today's growing MTV electorate, we will most definately need someone who fits onto the unique perceptions of this generation.

Not just will we need someone who comes across as presidential, and a leader.

But we will also need someone with "a pair of them". One who is ready, able and more than willing to defend conservatism whenever and wherever it is challenged. And trust me, it will be.

And most importantly, someone who is able to clearly articulate what our founders created -the amazing vision of what is conservatism, so that everyone will understand it for what it is... a win-win for America.

So... come on down, leader.

America will follow.



The Narcissist In The Mirror
Unfortunately, the majority of the American public is easily manipulated. Obama's rise has always been and continues to be based on public manipulation. Everything he does is carefully choreographed, and it began when he chose to be a community organizer as a way to get into politics. His books, his campaigns, his appearance (grin, throw your jacket over your shoulder, laugh) his marriage: everything about him screams carefully choreographed, preplanned manipulation. He is a complete narcissist. Take away his teleprompter and the media's slavish adoration and the general public would know what a weasel he was.

I agree with several posters here: Romney & Palin would be a phenomenal combo!




JD's Handsome Son of 9:12
Yeah, some one else, might have been Silver Lion, proposed pretty much the same thing. Tend your garden, protect your assets, wait it out. As the economy contracts and the fat is squeezed out, the lower economic classes are hit first and hardest. They will blame something other than themselves and their own decisions. These self-created victims will be the source of change. Could be of several different types, but change is on the way, and few of the possibilities look good in the near term. I'm glad i live away from a big city population center, with a well and a septic tank and open land nearby. I figure to sit back, pop a top, and watch the inner cities self-destruct on the French model. My cars are in a garage, and nobody is going to set them on fire for the fun of it.

NEXT SUPREME COURT JUSTICE?

.....Skuttlebutt has it that OBAMA is being pressured on two sides to nominate a woman and a gay ...look for a lesbian on the Court ...

.....Next look for a challenge that Gay marriage is a Civil Right and an Amendment ...this will force churches that consider marriage to be a religious rite to perform gay marriages or be accused of hate crimes ...

.....Hit the streets on JULY 4TH or watch our Country go down the tubes .....COLOSSUS

men or mice?
Well, you can't have Dick Cheney. Though he'd be great. The Liberals will have destroyed him completely before he's even out of the gate.

But we need a hero. We need someone like that who's willing to come in and not back down from a fight. And conservatives need to get off the DEFENSIVE! We need to quit apologizing, acquiescing, quit standing around with our hat in hand.

We need OFFENSE. Move forward. Quit being the defeated, cowering party. I love Fox News. But sometimes I wish they would quit with the "guess what?" routine. It's become a game, "guess who was mean, guess who said something really mean about conservatives, guess who hates us the most?" Boo hoo, poor us.

Are we men or mice?

JOEL-DE OPPRESSO LIBER

.....The States are fighting back ...

.....The Governor of MT just signed a Bill that says if guns and ammo are manufactured in the State and not exported outside the State then the Federal Government cannot regulate gun use in MT ... ...

.....Texas is working on a Bill that says that the State does not have to obey any Federal Law that violates the 10TH Amendment ...

.....These issues are headed to the Supreme Court so the race is on to see how fast OBAMA can stack the Court in his favor ...

.....If the Court shoots down the States then look to the streets ...the people want their power back ...

.....When the Government is afraid of the people you have a Democracy ....when the people are afraid of the Government you have a Dictatorship .....COLOSSUS

POSTSCRIPT: Check out GLENN BECK'S 9/12 website ...

Fred
"I think that the biggest problem held by the conservative right is that they cannot join into America as a changing, fluid, experimental society but want a fixed, regimented fantasy of a society that never really existed but which they continue to use a some kind of standard."

We think that these experiments have been tried many times before and they've failed. It's called socialism and it's ruined societies in the Soviet Union, Eastern Europe, Venezuela, Cuba and many other totalitarian societies. Your prescriptions are Regressive, not progressive.

They eliminate freedom. They eliminate true progress of the human condition and human ingenuity by homogenizing us all in to a society dictated and ruled by government.

They destroy wealth and create a egalitarian society of impoverished people. It happens every time it's tried and it will happen here.

TEA Party II
No representation without taxation!!!

Why should those who put no money into the pot say how the pot should be spent?!?

I still say
we missed our best chance for the survival of this republic when McCain lost.
The biggest threat comes from the islamos and they would fear Mccain where they laugh at this fool who bows down to one as a supplicant..disgusting.
JSM would have never put a lib on the court, never.

And Mccain's tax policy was 180 degrees out from this communist's take over plan.
Bottom line, no-one could ever accuse JSM of being anything but a patriot and totally qualified for the office by proven leadership and experience.

We don't even know who this clown who sits in the oval office is and he spends thousands to keep it that way.
Personally, I hope they prove he is illegitimate, I want a mulligan before he completely destroys our way of life.

Anyone who WANTS to get married
has a mental deficiency. Gays and straights alike.

Waterboarding...
...should be safe, legal, and rare!

Obama is the leader of the neo-nazi pinheads!

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On one hand, I feel sorry for the original owners of Chrysler because they were threatened, intimidated and "encouraged" to take money from the thugs in Washington.

On the other hand, they accepted the money and are getting what they deserve.

Please notice how the Obama administration WILL NOT "allow" private banks to return the stimulus money they accepted, but do not need. Obama realizes that if they give the money back, then the federal government no longer owns your business. Then how would Obama control the banks and further his socialistic goal?

GAY MARRIAGE COMPROMISE

.....Grant a licence to any couple who can watch a video of Helen Thomas performing a nude lap dance on Perez Hilton's head ...without throwing up .....COLOSSUS

2012 TICKET
I'm with you, Jonah. Cheney/Gramm sounds great to me too.

The GOP needs a real PR firm, not some hack inside the beltway PR firm, to teach them how to sell conservatism. It would help if they actually believed in conservatism. For example: Letting John McCain be the face of their phony and lame NCNA was poor salesmanship, even if you truly believe the voters are looking for squishy me too Republicans. Millions of voters hate McCain and he brings up bad memories. The young voters want to see a 'hip' candidate, not a candidate for a hip replacement who was last years loser. Eric Cantor has the appeal of an uptight, anal retentive, obsessive compulsive CPA, IMO. And their message: Zzzzzzz. Instead of telling folks they are listening and then changing it to talking to Americans about their Republican principles, why don't they just start naming these principles and acting on them. Why do we have to meet with these guys to hear what the principles are? These guys couldn't sell booz to a 7th Fleet sailor just back from a WestPac cruise on an aircraft carrier. Whatever it is they are selling, no one is buying.

MY POINT IS:
Obama is such a thuggish, ruthless, childish, economically-ignorant, foolish man that nobody in their left mind is gonna want him in OUR White House once he is gone. By 2012, Even the most die-hard racists and believers in the God of "hope" and "change" will have had enough. I say the GOP should run Scooby-Doo as our candidate. Scooby doesn't need a teleprompter, like Obama. Scooby will simply work for Scooby-snacks. Scooby is on our side, unlike Obama. Scooby is likable, unlike Obama. Scooby doesn't steal, like Obama. Scooby's not a drug-addict, like Obama. Scooby loves America, unlike Obama. And we have Scooby's original birht certificate, and guess what...he's QUALIFIED TO BE OUR PRESIDENT!

SCOOBY-DOO in 2012! - First canine president(would he pick Obama to be his White House dog?)

VOTE FOR SCOOBY-DOO in 2012!

This country has never had a president
as bad as this one. He's not really a president, he's a dictator. What else do you call someone who wins an election, and then swoops in and forcefully takes over private businesses? Obama is attacking the auto industry, the credit card industry, the healthcare industry, the banking industry, the energy industry, the firearms industry...etc.

Don't you people ever accept money from those Washington thugs. Look at all the banks and private businesses that accepted money from the Gustapo, and now look at the results...government TAKEOVER!

Commander-In-Thief.

ABORTION COMPROMISE

.....Instead of killing the baby ...we just maim it on the way out .....COLOSSUS

What Must Be Done
Heroes only surface in times of peril. Only then do peoples' minds get right and only then do those either in power, or aspiring to power, take the bold actions that are necessary in times of crisis.

We are not there yet. We are like the man in a rowboat out in the ocean, sitting on the surface in a bright sunny day while the tsunami waves underneath him rush to shore to wipe out the village.

Until America is truly faced with catastrophe we will simply have to ride the waves. Those who see the storm coming waste their time wailing and debating the merits of this or that policy and hoping their representatives listen to their advice. No one's listening. Accept it. Stop frittering away your energies attempting to sway them. They ignore you unless you have a bag of cash or some young boy for them to enjoy in the halls of congress.

Instead, prepare yourselves. Get your estate, your finances, and your necessities in order. You want to be ready when this fraud of a government and an economy comes crashing down. Math is a bytche, and so is gravity. They can't be trumped even by a messiah.

And be ready to shoot and kill every piece of garbage socialist who comes banging on your door demanding your stuff because their welfare checks have been cut off.

Have a nice weekend, everyone. Pleasant dreams.

I got one for you...
If the Republican establishment (and their media cronies who've since changed their tune) wouldn't have treated him like dirt in the Republican primaries, RON PAUL, would have made an excellent leader of the party and a great commander in chief. Republicans could have reclaimed the mantle of the constitution being our guiding document and have once again been the party of ideas. We'd be in a lot better shape, financially, militarily and overall had that man been our nominee. The party needs to wake up to the money issue and realize that the young people they want love this mans ideas.
And we are not going away...

Wrong, Wrong, Wrong . . .
Goldberg ignores an elephant in the room. It is almost impossible to have a media "hero" if the media is out to destroy him. The media banged the Morman drum around Romney til it became assumed Christians would oppose him. The attack on Sarah Palin was reprehensible - still many Republicans bought into it.

Conservatives best chance is to let the ideas and principles lead, and avoid the cult of personality that has worked for the Dems.

grubby
romney's a self made man? wasn't his father a governor and presidential candidate? yeah i guess he's self made in the same sense that dubya was self made lol. must have been those magic underpants. i think you guys need to nominate sarah. in the meantime she can work on handling those tough "gotcha" questions like what newspapers do you read lol.

Stop Playing Their Game,
On the contrary. Rather than trying to imitate the empty stylings of the Democrats' all-show-no-substance candidates the Republicans need to stop playing their game.

Pick a candidate on the merits of his/her conservative ideas and his/her ability to communicate their merits then sculpt the campaign as a direct refusal to play the image game.

This candidate should be capable of looking a reporter in the eye and saying "That's a meaningless, "gotcha" question that deserves no answer." Then, if the reporters won't ask real questions or allow the candidate to articulate his/her views sensibly use alternative media instead.

The problem with playing the left-liberal/Democrat game is that, since they do not acknowledge the existence of objective truth, they do not hesitate to lie. Thus no principled person can outdo them at their own game.

Its time to make them play by OUR rules -- truth, ideas, principles, and the clear indication that we are not electing a drinking buddy, we are electing a president.

Politics ...
used to be characterized as "Hollywood for homely people." Since that doesn't work all that well anymore, we are left with a surplus of superficial empty suits, incapable of comprehending unintended consequences of their *empathy*.

We do have charismatic candidates
Mitt Romney and Sarah Palin come immediately to mind. What we have to learn is how to defend them against the relentless media. Too many conservatives fail to challenge the adolescent and hurtful tactics of the Democratic destruction machine, and we allow our best to be consumed. And it will ever be until we develop a spine.

Bathroom fungus
Exactly. Right on, Goldberg. And you are quite right Gore and Kerry lost popularity contests. My wife is a knee jerk lib and she just could not vote for either. Couldn't say why, just that they gave her bad vibes. Obviously, Dumbo did not.

A few more months of 600,000 people losing their jobs may remove politics from the popularity contest category and place it in the same situation as the bomber group told they were heading for Berlin without the Tuskeegee Airmen. The reaction was We don't care if they are black, we want to stick with them because they do the job. The political equivalent would be, Illegal aliens are stealing our jobs, bailouts are stealing our taxes, and unfunded entitlements are crushing our dollar. We don't care if it is politically incorrect, we want these things to stop.

Liberal Terrorists
Fred: "The truth that they can't accept is "change or die." they have chosen death, attrition, rules that have already passed into history and they don't realize that it's not going to reappear on their fantasy vision scale."

We conservatives do accept "change or die" and I'm thinking of the millions of babies who are sacrificed every year, thanks to the "compassion" of liberals. We would like to see "change" so millions would live and maybe some of these citizens would actually become liberals!

At least Islamic terrorists are honest in their intentions: They want to convert us or kill us. Liberals approve the killing of unwanted babies and euthanasia for the old, only they use language to conceal their motives.

Who is more evil--the terrorists who state their motives outright or the liberals' disguised anti-life conversion of our culture and its citizens both at the beginning and the end?

Terrorists worship an evil image of Allah: liberals worship themselves as the all-knowing gods who legislate the power of life and death over their fellow citizens.

Who is the real enemy of America?

Fred
"After looking at Townhall for two years
I think that the biggest problem held by the conservative right is that they cannot join into America as a changing, fluid, experimental society but want a fixed, regimented fantasy of a society that never really existed but which they continue to use a some kind of standard."

Are you alluding to the Constitution? I think our biggest problem is anything-goes libertines who ignore our founding documents and the body of law developed since then.


Hero? We don't need no stinken Hero!
Every average American Patriot, those that truly love their country and the freedom our Constitution provides, are all Heroes in their own right. What we need is for these Patriots to come together and stop the petty arguments and concentrate on the Big Picture.

And the 'Big Picture' is, our government has been overthrown from within! Ovomit and the politicians in control ignore the Constitution and violate their oath of office on a daily basis and are now on a super fast track to replace our Free Republic with Fascism!

They want to keep you unorganized and arguing among yourselves. In that way you won't notice what they are really doing behind the scenes until it's to late.

The closest the Patriots have come to organizing was with the Tea Parties. And look how fast the government and the MSM moved in to attacked the movement. The one thing the government fears most is that the "People" will become organized and fight back!

The Tea Party movement needs to continue but with an eye on the Big Picture. It is far more than high tax's and wild spending! We must stop this down-hill slide into Fascism and take back our government!

When the People do become organized there are plenty of "Heroes" among you and it is up to you as an organization to select a leader to coordinate the movement. And from this organizing a sound presidential candidate can be found. Do not follow the GOP dictates! Or that of the Demos!

Looking for a hero?
I must add that I think Jonah (who is usually right on) is wrong on this one, because he's looking to seduce rather than educate. He's going to play the photoshop candidate game ionstead of elucidating sound principle. He has bought into the liberal belief that it's only about images because they work.

I suspect what we lack even more is someone who can articulate the message at the level of the great unwashed -someone who can turn the tables on the lying left and their viral media when the assualt comes. It takes much more than a leader on a(dare I say it) white horse. It takes a lot of us to be able and willing to be able and willing to help turn the hedonistic hands-out crowd around to self sufficiency and personal responsibility. St Paul did it, but I doubt that mere man can, hence I repeat -democracy is dead!

We are at this point because the
majority of the electorate are ignorant of the real issues and of our own history.
The public schools stink and have been co-opted by the lefties, the MSM are all leftists, small wonder a majority drank the kool-aid.

We need someone who can articulate the framers vision, re-educate while on the stump by making the comparison's between the parties visible.
Mccain for example made a huge mistake when he was asked "do we have anything to fear from obama"? and he answered no...he should have stated exactly what the threats to our liberty and the country in general would be with this clown from the domestic to the foreign and flat out stated just how he, Mccain, would deal with the threats. He should have used the images of 9/11 and told the media to kiss his butt and he should have walked out of the tarp BS and took the republicans with him stating he never voted for pork in 26 years and he won't do it today...he would have won.

Now, the best guy to do that is Newt, followed by Palin once she gets some foreign policy experience, she has the guts and is way more qualified NOW than bambi is on a good day.. I am perfectly comfortable with Huckabee, some idiot on the left made fun of his name awhile back, seems to me THAT issue has been put to bed.

We have to start this by kicking out of office every lousy democrat on the hill and a few turncoat R's as well, proclaim a new American Revolution and articulate a new contract for America in 2010..if all our folks sign on with one message, we'll win, the tea parties are the beginning.


Real title - Democracy doesn't work.
Jonah merely confirms what I've known for years -democracy doesn't work. We have a nation of uneducated, uninformed, unread, historically and morally illiterate voters being led by slick images and deceitful propaganda. (think foam pillars and hopenchange leadership)

The reason democracy is dead is because the voters want to be lied to. It is just conservatives that worry about truth, principles, God and family, and the future of civilization, while the rest seek comfort in hedonistic living and false idols like the great welfare state that needs never to defend itself against the evils of the world.

Kudoes Mr. Goldberg
This is your second great article in ONE week!

We still have heroes, mostly unsung. They're in our military. They know how to speak truth to power.

Maybe we should look to Petraeus or Odierno.


After looking at Townhall for two years
I think that the biggest problem held by the conservative right is that they cannot join into America as a changing, fluid, experimental society but want a fixed, regimented fantasy of a society that never really existed but which they continue to use a some kind of standard.

The truth that thay can't acceept is "change or die." they have chosen death, attrition, rules that have already passed into history and they don't relaize that it's not going to reappear on their fantasy vision scale.

As a liberal
I take your point. I think that now candidates have to be so "photogenic" and "camera-friendly" that we are missing out of players who might have amazing qualitites but don't have the charisma or telegenic qualities to make them noticed.

It wold be interesting to look through western history to see how much of a difference this made in the days before television. It certainly mattered in the Nixon-Kennedy debates.

Lincoln may have made it anyway because he apparently had a personal style that people were attracted to - I think he was more charismatic than his physical appearance would suggest.

In ancient Republican Rome, politicians who could relate to the under classes, by then allowed to vote, knew how to adopt their clothing, mannerisms, speech, spent alot of time posing as them when they ran for office. These were called populare candidates and it often worked for them. In Our present day Sarah Palin and Joe the plumber are perfect examples.

Jonah's right on one thing
Presidential elections are popularity contests.

Ideologues did not elect Obombo. Those who did have now gone back to their lives without a thought as to what the government is up to. They are satisfied that they got the coolest dude and dudette and that's all that matters.
Ready to do it again in 2012, unless perhaps their ox gets gored.


I'm afraid you're right
I sometimes wonder if George Washington, James Madison or Abe Lincoln could get elected today.

Washington was a slow and deliberate speaker, who preferred to mull over his words before speaking. Today's press corps would have torn him to pieces.

Madison; physically small with a high squeaky voice.

Lincoln; great speaker but really homely.

Actually, I don't wonder at all...

HEROS SACRIFICE
Idols INDULGE

Heros DO
Idols TALK

Heros RESPECT
Idols DISREGARD

Where have all the Honest Heros gone?
They've been replaced by Idol Lies.

Are We Aborting America?
Ron Paul certainly had the right ideas and was prescient as to the course of the economy but he does not have the communication skills or the presence needed to win the presidency.

I think we should reject Jeb Bush because his brother betrayed our support. The eastern establishment WASPs are done in my opinion. We need the frontier spirit of the West and the South. That is where the truly independent frontier-type Americans are.

I don't want to mention a certain governor of one of our states because that will unleash a horde of liberal furies, and fairies, who despise and fear this person.

There are some good things happening in America. A number of states have begun to assert their Constitutional rights and if we continue to have the liberal holocausters running the country I foresee a potential beak-up of the American nation, which may be inevitable anyway.

Throughout our history we have been able to throw up leaders that have inspired us and led us through terrible times. I think it may happen again because, after all, we are unique in the world despite Obama and the liberals' attempt to turn us into France and, maybe, the USSR. Our history and our culture may again help us to defeat our enemies, which today are home-grown totalitarians.

Warning, liberals, here it comes: With God's help we shall overcome.


Yes
We have become a nation of high schoolers. Oh did you see what Sarah is wearing? How much did she pay for it? And those glasses. Look at OBAMA without his shirt on. What a hunk!

We have complete idiots running our government, our major media outlets, Hollywood and all major Universities. The thing is they don't know they are idiots. They think they are better than the rest of mankind because they have been enlightened.

mark:
Sarah Palin is gutsy, conservative, attractive, and can be articulate when she knows what she's talking about. But she needs to brush up on foreign affairs before she is trotted out again as a presidential candidate. Couric's interview may have been peppered with unfair "gotcha" traps but it won't be any different the next time around. Also, is America ready for a woman president? I have no problem with a female Commander-in-Chief, but am I in the minority? And then there's that accent...

grubby:
Romney is tall, handsome, smooth, and seems reasonably articulate (though he doesn't blow me away). But is he conservative? He talks a good game now but his voting record as Mass. Governor disturbs me. How did he thrive politically in one of the most liberal states in America? Unfortunately, his religion may also be a negative. I could care less that he's a Mormon, but what about other voters?


kowtows to the Supreme Court?
Yes, the GOP still kowtows to the Supreme Court, what the hell else are they going to do? I understand the frustration people have over the abortion issue but for a president to simply declare Roe "to be of no force or effect" is worse than useless. It's has zero grounding in our Constitution.

Changing the abortion regime in this country requires one of 2 things:

1. a Constitutional amendment which just ain't going to happen (Sorry, I wish that wasn't true but it is.)

or

2. a conservative majority on the Supreme Court

Reagan dropped the ball with his appointments of O'Connor and Kennedy. Bush 41 screwed the pooch with Souter. We have four conservatives on the Court. We need five.

The Supreme Court strategy is STILL the only real option. Unfortunately, with Obama in the White House that route became harder.

kowtows to the Supreme Court?
Yes, the GOP still kowtows to the Supreme Court, what the hell else are they going to do? I understand the frustration people have over the abortion issue but for a president to simply declare Roe "to be of no force or effect" is worse than useless. It's has zero grounding in our Constitution.

Changing the abortion regime in this country requires one of 2 things:

1. a Constitutional amendment which just ain't going to happen (Sorry, I wish that wasn't true but it is.)

or

2. a conservative majority on the Supreme Court

Reagan dropped the ball with his appointments of O'Connor and Kennedy. Bush 41 screwed the pooch with Souter. We have four conservatives on the Court. We need five.

The Supreme Court strategy is STILL the only real option. Unfortunately, with Obama in the White House that route became harder.

Conservative Principles Not Enough
GOP voters need to consider communication skills and personal charisma among the criteria for the 2012 candidate. Any conservative Republican will be fighting a hostile press from day one. A sympathetic ear may be found on Fox News or talk radio, but the majority of Americans still rely on the mainstream media. Our candidate needs to be able to command major media coverage through the sheer force of personal magnetism, and to make effective use of the very limited time he or she will be given to make a case for sound policy to the American people.

Jeb Bush is wrong. We need a new Reagan: Someone with solid conservative principles who we can dub "The Great Communicator Redux"!

_Amicus curiae_ brief
"Liberal dogma is settled: The government should do good, where it can, whenever it can."

An addendum: the government should do _something_ whenever and wherever possible, preferably at great expense, even if it clearly and consistently fails to do what it set out to do or achieves the diametric opposite.

"I would love it if the GOP dedicated itself to cutting government by two-thirds, leaving only a minimal social safety net, a big honking military and a few other bells and whistles for promoting the general welfare. . . .But you know what? It's not about what I want."

Well, yeah, it is -- if what you want is closer than the _status quo_ to what the Constitution prescribes or allows.

"[H]uman toothaches" -- an excellent turn of phrase, right up there with "feckless crapweasel."

Sarah Palin
It's that simple. Nobody has energized the Republican party like this woman did last year. Don't let her slip away. SHE...is the answer

I'm not worried.
After the loss of the McCain-Palin ticket, I told my wife that this will hopefully bring about some creative destruction withing the GOP - the old guard, guys like McCain, Spector the Defector (good riddance), Lindsay Graham, and others would be shown the door. Hopefully there would be a renewal of true conservatism, constitutional originalists, & lovers of true liberty, not liberals.

It's happening now. It's ugly, but it's happening. Spector's gone. All over the country, Libertarians & Conservatives are finding common ground.

Don't listen to the media...Goldberg is right. Debate & loss is healthy, because it challenges conservatives to look deep to what it means to be a conservative.

Bambi is a smooth-talking charmer...we just need one of our own to convery the message.

Don't put your hopes in a person...
Because what the country needs is to get back to basic principles. Power needs to be shifted away from Washington and returned to the people. We should be looking for principled leaders who can listen as well as they articulate their vision for the future.

There was a great post over at HuckPAC by a Huckabee supporter:

http://www.huckpac.com/?Fuseaction=Blogs.View&Blog_id=2570



We Need a Republican Clone of Obama
Jonah: I think we are doing some old fashioned political handicapping and guessing electibility issues. Obama is doing well as of this date on certain polling that in questioning disregards his potential mistakes in the first 100 days. That is to say coolness, the trench coat with the blackberry and the way he relates to the public as Everyman is beginning to be very important in considering his success. We as Republicans need a comparable counterpart. I find it hard to digest that if Obama can stay even a tad over the fray should problems in this country worsen he may still prevail playing the rock star. We need a well built, congenial, handsome hopeful and I think we should stop the continuous, unyielding, repetitive mantra against our adversary, refusing to praise him for anything. As Republicans we must master the skills of subdued or qualified objectivity.
Jay R

Mitt Romney
Romney is a guy capable of articulating conservatism - this is important since the American electorate will be wary of someone who simply reads a teleprompter. B. Hussein is a phony of the first magnitude. No one was expecting a television, MSM, media concoction as a presidential candidate. People were excited by his personal characteristics alone - and not allowed to focus beyond that.

Romney has lived the conservative life - a beautiful family, self made, has solved real world financial problems and economic dilemmas. The lesson of B. Hussein: do