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Friday, April 10, 2009
Jonah Goldberg :: Townhall.com Columnist
The Ideologue Beneath Every Realist
by Jonah Goldberg
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There's a breed of foreign policy wonk in Washington that takes itself even more seriously than your run-of-the-mill foreign policy expert (as a class, an incredibly pompous bunch). This is the "realist." Realists claim that they are stony-eyed analysts of realpolitik. These latter-day Metternichs and Machiavellis measure things in terms of "vital interests": blood and treasure, national security, power projection and so on. They don't concern themselves with the gossamer of idealism or emotion.

I've long argued that if you scratch beneath the surface of any realist you'll find an ideologue. Realists, just like everyone else, have priorities. This is more important than that, and that is more important than the completely useless other thing. What those things are changes from expert to expert, but everyone has some kind of formula on how to make that determination, even realists. The notion that policymakers should care more about the spread of U.S. widget sales than the spread of democracy is an ideological decision no matter which side you come down on.

But, the case is even easier to make when talking about pretend realists. Pretend realists are folks on both left and right who lose the argument about foreign policy, either in the Oval Office or at the ballot box. For this crowd, realism is merely a fancy-pants word used by the experts who lost the policy battle and want to claim the winners didn't weigh our vital interests correctly.

Consider the opposition to the Iraq war. I don't think I need to bother naming names and dredging up quotes when I say that many critics of the war argued that it wasn't in our vital national interests and, more to the point, that it was recklessly ideological and/or idealistic to try to impose our values on Iraq. Just this week, President Obama insisted on his overseas tour that Iraq was a "distraction" -- i.e. a departure from where America's interests reside.

That's all a fair argument, to be sure. But whatever happened to these people who said it was folly to impose our values on foreign cultures? For instance, a few weeks ago, Obama announced that the U.S. would sign on to the French-led effort to protect the rights of homosexuals around the world. Homosexuality is illegal in at least 85 countries, and in many Muslim countries it is punishable by death.

Now, as an unapologetic moralist in foreign policy, I have absolutely no objection to the intent here. The U.S. should condemn such persecution, full stop. It may be open to debate whether gays should marry, but no decent person can believe that homosexuals should be beheaded.

But you know what? If these one-time realists truly thought America was going to have a rough time imposing democracy at the point of a gun, they shouldn't have grand expectations that the Saudis are going to be convinced to leave gays alone at the point of a U.N. press release.

Liberals might respond that there's no harm in signing on to the effort, and that there's a big difference between going to war and backing a nonbinding U.N. resolution. Fair enough. But it's still a distraction by any serious realistic standard. (A true realist would say: "How does it affect us if the Yemenis behead a gay guy every now and then?") And, if these same liberals had their way, U.N. resolutions would have a lot more force to them.

Or take a look at Cuba. There's a fresh effort under way, particularly from the left wing of the Democratic Party, to lift the U.S. embargo against Cuba. Just this week, members of the Congressional Black Caucus junketed to Cuba to celebrate the heroism of Fidel Castro.

The arguments in favor of lifting the embargo are routinely swaddled in talk of realism. The Cold War is over, it's time to throw away anti-Communist anachronisms. The only way to change Cuba for the better is to "engage it" with trade and tourism and exchange programs. The funny thing is, if you made the exact same arguments about South Africa in the 1980s, many of the same people would not merely call you an ideologue but a racist for not supporting sanctions. Indeed, today the anti-Israel sanctions movement is infested with people who claim we must lift the embargo on Cuba.

The truth is that it is impossible to keep our values out of foreign policy, and it would be dangerous to try. That doesn't mean we have to make the perfect the enemy of the good on every issue. You do what you can, where you can. Being realistic about means is the only way you can be serious about achieving idealistic ends.

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Pejoratives
"Ideology" and "ideologue" are merely pejoratives for the naughty habit of maintaining that there's a standard of right and wrong written in the laws of the universe, and a standard of better and worse that emerges from the nature of Man. To think about natural laws and principles, unless one resolutely rejects all conclusions, is to practice ideology.

The antonym of "ideology" is "rhetoric." The antonym of "ideologue" is "demagogue," or perhaps "villain."


Goldberg has a valid point
when he exposes the fact that Obama and company merely trade one set of values (imposing Democracy) for another (imposing tolerance for homosexuality).
This doesn't invalidate the Realist foreign policy model though, it merely proves that this Administration doesn't subscribe to it.

I like the blood and treasure principle
It's a lot like broccoli. I don't like broccoli. I'm on record as being opposed to broccoli but the question becomes: Am I willing to shoot my wife for preparing broccoli?

gregdn
so a non binding un resolution is "imposing" tolerance for homosexuals on the world? i don't think just agreeing with the statement that you really shouldn't behead them is imposing anything on anyone.

Illuminating a know concept.
Good article. The notion is worth repeating

It mirrors the simple concept of how an agnostic, well . . . isn't.
He still has his belief system, just cast in a reclusive prism.

He does believe what he believes, but like an "objective" news reporters, lacks the willingness to make it transparent (just like this current administration is struggling with).

What is real?
IMHO, that's the greatest question of our lives.

This article does not even scratch the surface of this issue.

Please watch the following more information on what reality is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY5r_zox-a8

False dilemma
I am well aware of the neocon vs. realist debate. The neocons realized, just as Rand said, that values are inescapable, because all action presumes some purpose. The realists pretend that everyone's values are the same. But sides suffer from the same fault: Altruism is their moral standard. The neocons believe in "bringing democracy" to others at the price of American blood and treasure, and the realists believe that our interests are collective, that some Americans can and should be sacrificed for the sake of the country as a whole. The neocons cheerled war in Iraq; the realists the war in Vietnam.

The Objectivist position is the correct model of how the ideological (moral) fits with the real (practical). In the Objectivist view, we SHOULD act in our national self-interest, but this is defined as what is in the rational self-interest of the American individual, i.e., government must act to secure the inalienable rights of the individual. That is the measure of right. The government should ensure that Americans' right to life, liberty, property, and the pursuit of happiness are protected.

This means no more self-sacrificial wars. If a country or regime is an actual threat to American citizens in an OBJECTIVE way, then take them out with no apology or meekness, as quickly and efficiently with as little American blood spillt as possible, then go home.

Hi Wendy
You wrote:

"The neocons believe in "bringing democracy" to others at the price of American blood and treasure,"

and I think that's a misunderstanding of the "realism" the neocons display. If you're interested in the real history, I recommend a film called "the power of nightmares." It's available for free on google. Here's a quick bit about the birth of the neo-cons from the wiki page:

"a group of disillusioned liberals, including Irving Kristol and Paul Wolfowitz, look to the political thinking of Leo Strauss after the perceived failure of President Johnson's "Great Society". They come to the conclusion that the emphasis on individual liberty was the undoing of the plan. They envisioned restructuring America by uniting the American people against a common evil, and set about creating a mythical enemy. These factions, the Neo-Conservatives, came to power under the Reagan administration, with their allies Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, and work to unite the United States in fear of the Soviet Union. "

What's interesting is that this form of "realism" - that the masses must be contained by keeping them in perpetual fear of a mythical enemy - is happening right this moment on the other side of all our inimical relationships.

If we break free of the fear simultaneously, a new form of "realism" will emerge.

Reality is what you can get away with.

paranoidmystic
that wiki entry must have been made by Ted Kennedy or Barbara Boxer or at least one of their acolytes. Did you write that?

Is anyone afraid of the Soviet Union? Seems to me it ceased to exist before Dick Cheney became VP or Donald Rumsfeld became SecDef. I suppose they were early plotters way before.

What is kind of funny is that the wiki description is very accurate as describing the leftist agenda in this country to unite the people against a make believe enemy (global warming) in order to bring about the complete elimination of freedom and the institution of a socialist state. Reality is what you can get away with huh? That does sum up the world view of most democrats I know.

paranoidmystic
What is real? Let me help you.

Saving the planet is not real. Paying a much higher electric bill in order to save the planet is real.

Calling for unilateral disarmament in the face of rising threats is not real. The results of disarmament when people are killed will be very real.

Calling for the redistribution of wealth from the rich to the poor is not real. The money taken from the rich and poor and wasted on frivolous programs is real.

Believing that you will be given a nice well paying job in a new green industry created by our benevolent government is not real. Being laid off from your job due to the efforts of government to create green jobs is very real.

Is this helping?

Johna
great column. The issue with the "realists" in the white house, is they have no b@lls. The world laughs in there face. No the country will pay a heavy price for this "wet behind the ears" thinking. I suspect my 5 year old is more grown up.
Kirk

Pejoratives
Francis writes "Ideology" and "ideologue" are merely pejoratives for the naughty habit of maintaining that there's a standard of right and wrong written in the laws of the universe, and a standard of better and worse that emerges from the nature of Man."

How Ironic. The thought that the very laws of God, a standard of what is right and what is wrong and a standard given of and for man to strive for better over worse.....the very vow spoken when in marriage, can be so eloquently associated with such a vile term.

Hitchhiker
Nice Reply. Let me add relying on your income tax refund to keep your bills current because you live in the blood sucking state of NJ with the highest insurance rates and overall taxes (especially property tax, talk about the right to property) is very real. Stacking cups and not keeping score in interscholastic or youth sports in gerneral is unreal.
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