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Friday, October 03, 2008
Jonah Goldberg :: Townhall.com Columnist
Hoover-Era Ghost Stories No Longer Apply
by Jonah Goldberg
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A very old story is once again being retold, with a few of the characters' names updated to besmirch the innocent. In this story, conservatives are to blame for an economic crisis because they allegedly believe there is no role for government in the economy, and all economic crises are due to lax regulation of markets.

Cokie Roberts recently gave a sense of how old this story is on ABC's "This Week." She said of John McCain, "He's a Republican, and whenever Republicans get into this kind of mess, everybody, even people who were not born or close to being born, the specter of Herbert Hoover comes out to haunt them."

Everybody?

Roberts is correct in one sense. The specter of Herbert Hoover is conjured every time there's an economic calamity, large or small.

But you know what? Specters are ghosts. And ghosts aren't real.

The Herbert Hoover of popular imagination was a laissez-faire lickspittle of Adam Smith. But this idea began as Rooseveltian propaganda and endures as the creation myth of modern liberalism.

William Leuchtenburg, possibly the greatest authority on the FDR era, wrote some time ago, "Almost every historian now recognizes that the image of Hoover as a 'do-nothing' president is inaccurate."

After the stock market crash of 1929, Hoover browbeat business leaders to keep wages and prices high. He invested heavily in public works projects. He pushed for an international moratorium on debts. He created the Reconstruction Finance Corporation, which later became a home for many of FDR's Brain Trusters. Hoover increased farm subsidies enormously.

Some of Hoover's interventions were good but ineffectual. A few were very, very bad and very effective.

In 1932, Hoover in effect repealed Calvin Coolidge's tax cuts, increasing the rates for the poorest taxpayers by more than 100 percent and hiking the top rate from 25 percent to 63 percent. Worse, contrary to his own better instincts, Hoover signed the disastrous Smoot-Hawley trade bill that raised protectionist walls at precisely the moment the world needed trade the most.

Then there's this idea that FDR rode to the rescue, saving the day by untying the American people from the railroad tracks of runaway capitalism. Former Clinton Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers, now a surrogate for Barack Obama, recently said on NPR: "It's very tempting to always think that the government should just stand back and let the private sector sort these problems out. That's the kind of thinking that made the Depression ŒGreat.'"

Summers should know better (in fact, I'm sure he does). The Great Depression was not made "Great" by government inaction. Indeed, FDR's New Deal may have been wonderful in some mytho-poetic sense, and maybe some of its reforms can be defended in some broader context, but as an effort to end the Great Depression, the New Deal was a failure. As my colleague Mark Steyn writes, "Lots of other places - from Britain to Australia - took a hit in 1929 but, alas, they lacked an FDR to keep it going till the end of the Thirties. That's why in other countries they refer to it as "the Depression," but only in the U.S. is it 'Great.'"

Today we're hearing a similar argument about John McCain or, more often, his evil henchman, former Sen. Phil Gramm as Herbert Hoover's mini-me.

"Phil Gramm, one of the architects of the deregulation in Washington that led directly to this mess on Wall Street, is also the architect of John McCain's economic plan," Obama said recently. A couple problems: Gramm is no longer with the McCain campaign. More important: This is nonsense on stilts. The deregulation that the Obama camp most often cites is the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which passed the Senate in 1999 by a 90-8 margin and was signed enthusiastically by Bill Clinton. Thirty-eight Democrats voted for it, including Chuck Schumer, John Kerry, Chris Dodd, John Edwards, Dick Durbin, Tom Daschle and Barack Obama's running mate, Joe Biden. The "Leach" in the legislation's title was a founder of Republicans for Obama.

Moreover, nothing in that law has much to do with today's financial meltdown. Indeed, it has helped some financial institutions weather the storm precisely because they are more diversified.

Also, who are the real Hoovers here? Obama is sympathetic to protectionism, as is his party. He says he will raise taxes on the top income earners, and if he's remotely honest about his spending ambitions, he will have to raise taxes on everybody else as well.

Meanwhile, who sought to intervene when Fannie Mae metastasized? John McCain. Who wanted to keep the party going? The party of Roosevelt. There's blame all around, but nothing today supports the liberal ghost stories of yesterday.

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Juan McCain is to blame
McCain continues to parrot the Left by blaming Greedy Wallstreet. Instead he should be blaming Greedy K-Street and tie Fannie and Freddie lobbying to Schumer, Dodd, Frank and the most Merciful, Magnificent praise be his Name Messiah B. Hussien Obama whose lust for Power allowed the mess to happen.

Deregulation is not an orphan.


Republicans, (John McCain,) need to state, restate and then proof strike with the public that deregulation has Democratic footprints, thumbprints and philosophical imprints,

It is absurd for Republicans to be tarred with an anti laizzez-faire backlash that points the bony finger at deregulation as the origin of all excess in the credit markets.

One of the prime movers beginning in the late 1970's of deregulation in critical sectors of the American economy has been the senior Senator from Massachusetts, Ted Kennedy.

From deregulation of the trucking industry, the dissolution of the Civil Aeronautics Board, (CAB) and the deregulation of the Airline Industry to deregulation of Ma Bell and the telecom industry along with deregulation of Banking and Insurance as expressed in the repeal of Glass-Steagall, Ted Kennedy and other prominent Democrats including Wm. Jefferson Clinton were front and center.

Deregulation is not now to be cast off and ignored as if it were some unfortunate tryst with some easy virtue that we now want to ignore when we are with the wife and kids at a Sunday go to meeting moment.

Memories on this subject appear to be as short term as the pot smoker’s lunch the day before.

Republicans are not alone in the deregulation of American life and deregulation is not a bankrupt philosophical concept for government in the modern age.

famous last words
"Hoover-Era Ghost Stories No Longer Apply."

Jona's Ghost Story
Brilliant!

Enough said.

THE PRESENT FINANCIAL DISASTER
Is not the result of deregulation. It doesn't represent a failure of the market. It is the direct result of regulation, Federal Regulation, so bad it is difficult to comprehend its almost criminal idiocy. The only thing about the housing crisis, ground zero for this disaster, that could be described as a surprise is that it didn't happen sooner. While we probably could use more intelligent regulation, what we will get is more stupid nonsense, and all of us will suffer much more as a result of the bailout and ancillary new regulations. I'm looking for another country, not for me but for my grandchildren. Sad to say, I haven't found one. The last best hope is failing, the lights are going out all over the world.

MD/MG...tar & feathers aren't enough
I think we've reached a turning point in the history of the United States.

The last 3 elections have been "the most important election of our lifetime." With each successive election, the center keeps drifting further and further to the left.

It has to stop somewhere, or we will all wake up serfs in the land that our forefathers spilled their blood to make free.

Pitchforks and torches are not enough. I predict that in the near future we will HAVE to face death in order to insure freedom for our children.

if perp walks don't happen,
let's all convene on the Capitol steps with pitchforks, and a boat-load of tar and feathers at hand.

congress created this problem. They should at least have the decency to stand aside, put the pork fork down, and pass a clean bill that minimizes taxpayer obligations. God help save us from the theives in DC.

Bush/Paulson = Hoover
And if the economy goes down, Obama will be FDR: extending what should be an 18-month correction into 8 years of New Deal 2.0 misery.

Hoover
Was FDR's first term. Much of the agricultural crash was due to Hoover's price controls during and post WWI. He ran the Food Admin during WWI. High wheat prices resulted in huge overplanting in the Dust Bowl; overproduction and subsequent crash. Made worse by good rain during the high prices and drought when the prices crashed. This was before Hoover became POTUS.

FDR continued it and made it worse. Britan and most of the rest of the "first world" was in recovery by 1932, pretty much out of it by mid 30's. SOMEHOW FDR is an American hero for having presided over the worst economy in the country's history for a decade. It was getting worse before WWII.

Hoover was a brilliant man and perhaps the best qualified ever to be POTUS. He failed because he believed that he, and government, could really help people. He created the disaster, in large part, and then made it worse.

FDR was a dullard with a lust for power and "getting even" with his old school chums. he was a brilliant politician easily manipulated by people behind him. Sound familiar?

Government caused the Great Depression (admittedly, there were some technological change and climate problems that would have made it a recession/depression--small 'D') and made it worse. Period, end of story.

Villans were Hoover, FDR and a cast of thousands.

PERPLEXING, that...
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...McCain, Palin and other Republican speakers are not driving home the message :

"Community Reinvestment Act"
President Clinton
"Community Reinvestment Act"
President Clinton
"Community Reinvestment Act"
President Clinton

Perhaps I'm being too indirect here :

IT'S THE D*MN DEMOCRATS WHO SET UP THIS GOVERNMENTAL FRANKENSTEIN, to suit their politically correct notion of homeowner "justice."

Can't ANYONE get THAT message drumbeating out there?!!?

deregulated my butt
It wasn't deregulation, but regulations which caused the problem. My wife worked as a loan officer and can tell you one nightmare story after another how gubmint social engineering forced her to approve loans to people without a pot, but thanks to Carter, Clinton and Congress, now had a window to throw it out of. NINJA loans - no income, no job or assests. How could this not be a recipe for disaster.

The Down Stream Media and cowardly congressmen can deny and deflect all they want, but many of us known who Frank Raines is, and how he cooked Clinton's books over a OMB before scoring huge at Fannie Mae, the financial arm of the DNC since it's inception in 1938.

We've also seen Barney "butt boy" Fwank, Maxine Waters, Countrywide Chris Dodd, Chuck U Schumer et. al. defending the guilty, shifting blame to repubbicans and shouting down anyone who questions otherwise, like Barney on Bill last night. Dhimmicrats have nothing but lies and and half-truths, like Obiden demonstrated. They are pathetic and Sarah was absolutely correct that we are tired of Washington double speak and stupid policy.

The crap sandwich they're calling the bail out has now been dressed up with some mayo, tomatoes, bean sprouts and avocado BUT it is still a crap sandwich.

This is Enron times 1,000 and we need to see some people perp walked into prison

5 stars Jonah
This is the best article I have seen in a while on this issue and is world’s above your last article. The liberal press has pushed the deification of FDR for so long it has become a staple of history. He and LBJ are without a doubt the absolute worst presidents in the history of this country. Jimmy the idiot Carter doesn’t hold a candle for long term damage done to the country.

And that other lamocrat commie myth; Herbert Hoover being an example of Laissez-faire capitalism. That one is a real barn-burner. FDR’s first two years were spent pushing Hoovers ideas through comgress. In fact, the ones that the SCOTUS all shot down as being unconstitutional (before FDR’s court packing) were Hoover’s.

The commies are all pushing the mime that deregulation is the cause of this event while NEVER giving anything that supports that contention. That is because contrary to that popular lie, there has NEVER been anything deregulated.

Ah Stupid History
Ah man... I hate it when historical fact gets in the way of leftist ideology! When they finally get their way of making America into a socialist state they'll probably go back and rewrite history.

Last good democrat
Actually, "The Last Good Democrat" can be found here (http://www.lewrockwell.com/dilorenzo/dilorenzo73.html).

How to cure a "depression"
Throughout history it's been called many things: 'panic' 'crash' 'depression' 'recession' 'hiccup' etc.

The reason the crash and ensuing depression from 1929 - 1951 (the year stock prices reached their 1929 levels again) can be traced directly to the doorstep of both Hoover & Roosevelt.

The crash was NOT caused by capitalism. On the contrary, it was caused by government intervention. An expansion of credit by the federal reserve, followed by a contraction in the money supply. THAT is what caused the crash. (read "America's Great Depression" by Murray N Rothbard)

Bad interventionist policies by a Republican, followed by even worse interventionist policies by a Democrat are what extended the depression needlessly, and at a cost of millions of lives. Politicians have a streak of megalomania about them. But they just don't understand the one lesson they need to grasp...YOU CAN'T PLAN AN ECONOMY!

Instead...

Follow the example of Martin Van Buren, the last president with an understanding of economics and curing depressions (http://mises.org/story/2201)

Or follow the example of "The Last Good Democrat" (http://mises.org/story/2201).

Concerns About Bailout Plan
Economists Raise Concerns About Bailout Plan

While some politicians were reconsidering their opposition to the bailout this week, there is one group that still expresses a lot of concerns with the legislation: economists.

Interviews conducted with a dozen prominent academic economists, Obama supporters as well as McCain supporters, found little support for the bailout bill. Indeed, even the one economist who supported the proposal passed by the Senate Wednesday night had serious reservations.

Read the whole article and comments from economists here:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,431645,00.html


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