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Friday, August 15, 2008
Jonah Goldberg :: Townhall.com Columnist
Nightmare on Dem Street
by Jonah Goldberg
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For months now people have been saying to me, "Do you really think they're gone?" "Is it finally over?" "Is the coast clear?"

The questions have been in response to Barack Obama's supposedly yeoman service in putting an end to the Clintons in public life.

My response to those who believe our long national nightmare is over has always been: "Have you seen no monster movies?"

Freddy Krueger always comes back. Jason re-emerges from the pond one more time. Dracula had so many comebacks, nobody was surprised to see him hanging with Abbott and Costello.

Of course the Clintons will be back.

If the monster-movie thing is too offensive for you Clinton voluptuaries out there, think of it like this: They're like Richard Gere in "An Officer and a Gentleman" (who, coincidentally, is hounded by a charismatic black dude but never gives up). They've got no place else to go.

And I was right. The Clintons are back. The coffin lid has sprung open, the seal of the crypt has been broken, the mutant virus has escaped the lab. Both Clintons will speak at the Democratic convention, and Hillary will get her I-told-you-so's.

In the horror flicks, it's not that the creatures are impervious to damage, it's that no matter how much you hack them up, they seem to come back again. And again. And again. The Clintons have been horribly damaged, but they press on.

Bill Clinton is no supernatural serial killer - faint praise to most, too generous to a few. But he does have this juggernaut-like way of getting where he wants to be. One of his special powers is superhuman passive-aggressiveness. When recently asked if Obama was qualified to be president, Clinton responded, "You can argue that nobody is ready to be president." Pressed again about Obama's qualifications to be president, Clinton explained, "I never said he wasn't qualified. The Constitution sets qualification for the president. And then the people decide who they think would be the better president."

Bill could have really added some oomph to that endorsement if he'd only been willing to concede that Obama is a carbon-based life form meeting the minimal requirements defined by scientists for sentient life.

But that's a lot to expect from the surrogate-in-chief for the Hillary Clinton campaign. At least that's the impression one gets from the beautiful corpse, or rather beautiful autopsy of the corpse, on display over at The Atlantic. Like Richard Dreyfuss in "Jaws" ("This was no boating accident!"), reporter Joshua Green picks through the internal e-mail viscera of the Clinton campaign and finds that the destructive nature of the Clintons is not always aimed at their enemies.

Indeed, shocking as this may be to people naive enough to believe that a woman with no executive experience, no security clearance, no significant successes under her belt, who was catapulted to presidential prominence solely because her husband treated her like a cautionary tale in a country-music song, was nonetheless a co-president for eight years: It turns out that the Bride of Clintonstein was an awful chief executive. Infected by her husband's passive-aggressiveness, she stood paralyzed as the HMS Hillary took on more and more water, until even the string quartet on the deck was leaping for the flotation devices.

As Green pulls memo after memo from the great white's carcass like so many Florida license plates, we discover that the Clintons knew long, long ago that they couldn't beat Barack Obama to the nomination. But winning was secondary, carnage was king. You might even say of her decision to stay in the race: This was no polling accident.

The Clintons adopted a deliberate strategy of diminishing Obama's victories, and Mark Penn, Clinton's trusted campaign manager, pushed for a strategy of ridiculing their black, funny-named opponent as insufficiently American. Such memos, if found in the underbelly of a Republican campaign, would be immortalized by the liberal establishment as permanent proof of conservative racism. When plucked from the bowels of a Democratic campaign, the response is some mild tsk-tsking.

But fixating on the plot is never a good idea with monster flicks. The point is that the story is always the same. And so it is this time as well. Bill and Hillary are back. And forever more, Barack Obama won't be able to take a shower without fear of that curtain snapping back, as a woman - or is that a man? - prepares to plunge the knife into his back.

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The Blackbird
You are not poking fun at my scenario,are you?

A New Ball Game! Now that
the Clintons have bamboozled Obamba into letting Hillary’s name be placed in nomination and a roll call vote taken, here’s how it’s gonna play out.
The Clintons will organize a trusted team of operatives to go after all of the super delegates. The team will consist of Paul Bergalla; James Carville; Craig Livingston; Terry MacCauliffe; and the ex LTC USAF (Ret.) from Scranton PA. Bergalla, Carville and Livingston will go over the FBI files, copies of which were prudently made while the Clintons still occupied the White House, with a fine tooth comb and dig up as much dirt on the super delegates as possible. All documentation will be hand written. Computers are taboo. McCauliffe will finance the entire operation including throwaway cell phones that will be expressly used for communication. Daily progress meetings will be held in McCauliffe’s stretch limousine driven, for security reasons, by Chelsea Clinton. The ex LTC USAF (Ret.)’s job will be to continue his efforts to agitate, aggravate and distract the conservatives on Town Hall with his mindless and inane drivel. Time is of the essence. We will be victorious and Hillary will be the Democratic nominee for POTUS. Good hunting.

Disclaimer: The above is a spoof, a fictitious scenario

The Clintonista Machine.
I have said many times on these threads that the Clintons do not give up. They will fight til the last dog dies. This is evident,now.

I also said there would be no Clinton fingerprints on the dirt when it is dished out,unlike Hill's fingerprints on the infamous billing records.

The Corsi book that's causing such an uprising is published by Mary Matalin's company. Mary Matalin is James Carville's wife. James Carville is a maddog for the Clintons. One of their most rabid advocates.

Mary Matalin is a Republican,but she lives with James .Her priorities are to elect a Republican but her main one is the defeat of Obama.

James is also a priority and if Hillary is elected,he will be happy. If McCain is elected she will be happy. Both will be satisfied if Obama is history. So will I.

Yo Seawolf! I'm afraid
that your statement, "Let us not forget the FBI records the clintoons had a ways back.
My guess would be they have dirt on every super delegate in the party and will use it to blackmail them into voting for the hildabeast"
is right on the money.
These two have written the book on corruption and would make Richard Daley look like a saint.
God help us if either Hillary or Obama become POTUS.

Let us not forget the
FBI records the clintoons had a ways back.
My guess would be they have dirt on every super delegate in the party and will use it to blackmail them into voting for the hildabeast.

This is about the clintons and nothing else, they will do anything to get her into the WH. If not this year then 2012, they'll undermine bambi at every turn and have already started.

The dems have completely gone over to the commie side of their party. The only dem who is from the old school of patriotic dems is Joe Lieberman and they threw him under a bus. They do not put the country first, they put their power over US first and will do anything to get more power.
They are despicible liars from top to bottom and appeal only to the lazy and the perverted..they don't care how badly they ruin this country as long as they get to run it.

I would not want to be a business owner in Denver if they deliver this to clinton.

Why is McCain
any better? That's a joke - right. The man has devoted his life to his country - his personal and political history speaks for itself - we may not all like every decision he has made over the years but taking everything into consideration - the country would be better off under his watch. I think he gets it!
This Dem Convention is ridiculous - there is a winner and then there is a winner - well isn't it the liberals that want every kid to win every game. How does that work in politics - I wonder - well I guess we will all find out soon.

Entertaining article..
...I think Dennis Miller said it best,"I find it ironic that Hillary was ultimately undone by the Left-Wing conspiracy" Hillaryious.

She was up there ranting about the Right-Wing machine, blah, blah and that was her fate. Poetic justice.

Additional to that irony is even more irony, that the Hillary camp went on record saying FOX News had the most, and i quote,"...fair coverage".

Oh man...it ain't easy folks.

Howard Dean's Whitey comment...
[...] a deliberate strategy of diminishing Obama's victories, and Mark Penn, Clinton's trusted campaign manager, pushed for a strategy of ridiculing their black, funny-named opponent as insufficiently American. Such memos, if found in the underbelly of a Republican campaign, would be immortalized by the liberal establishment as permanent proof of conservative racism. [...]

Bingo! Howard Dean's comments confirm that:
[...] "If you look at folks of color, even women, they're more successful in the Democratic party than they are in the white, uh, excuse me, in the [laughs] Republican party." [...]"

Q: How long would a republican/conservative live after coming with an equivalent comment?
A: _________________________________________

Where is Mr. Obama?
Can't the National Inquirer do their job? Barack is on vacation?? What celeb goes on vacation without the paparazzi?

Isn't it nice that the media leaves him alone during his vacation???...they really do love him. Maybe he's freakin' out..." Michelle I can't lead the Free World!!!!"

Meanwhile...the Clintons.....like birds of prey swoop down for the kill.

LOL
Interesting imagery

SOOTHSAYER
SAME OLE - SAME OLE
Again there is the preverbal $200 million that Democrats plan to use in the election. Albeit, this is a formidable amount the breakdown of that number shows factor. Using ten dollars as the contribution norm the aggregate sum translates into 20 million voters which out of a total 140 million votes is a mere (20/140) 14% which from the past elections of AlGore, Howard Dean, Swiftie, and now the O'BoyToy.

Democrats can O'Bombblast one billion dollars ($1,000,000,000) in media coverage and union pressure between Pittsburg and Philadelphia and still lose Pennsylvania. From Connecticut to Maine the O'BoomBox will lose one or two New England states. Southie and Dorchester will not vote for the Harvard Law Review guy, he's a total stranger down on A Street with no friends on B Street; ergo, Red Sox Hation and New England Patriot Fans will vote McCain.

Working Democrats want a good job, nice house,. plus safety for family and friends; to which, the Preacher Junior Senator from the Southside of Chicago provides zero. The Fat Cigars at the Convention in Denver will attempt to sabotage O’Bomba knowing he cannot win.

Interesting speculation here..
...but no way the Dems can nominate Hillary now. Too much hype for Obama under the bridge. Jeez, the super-lib kids and blacks would start a civil war.

Your Obedient Servant,
George Washington

I like the article "Title"
immensely...made me laugh my a** off.....hehehehehe...nice play on words....

DrFix and Wolfpat
I felt that way, too, but while I still haven't forgiven the GOP for McAmnesty but I have decided that it's better to amputate my right leg below the knee than my left leg above the knee.

The horror movies I'm thinking of are Godzilla vs. some other nasty: the monsters slug it out while trampling entire cities into dust.

vamtns41
"Clintons? Mosters only exist if you let them exist! " - that's the point, Barack Humphrey Obama lets them exist. He is not qualified to be in charge of a popsicle stand, let alone US of A.

Writing Style
Jonah,

You're getting back to your old habit of being cutsy in your writing style. I'm sure it's fun but not particularly interesting to read.

Steve
Denver, CO

Has anyone considered
...throwing a pail of water on Hillary? I suggest she stay out of Kansas lest a tornado drops a house on her.

Hill-arious
but strangely, and sadly, true.

Keep 'em comin', Jonah!

The media
had better hope that HC doesn't come out of that convention with more votes than she previously had, even if it isn't enough to win. The jig will be up in their unfavorable biased coverage and the withholding of information.

Not that it isn't up already, but the left eats their own, and they will eat the media.

When Times Are Tough
the tough get going. I'm sure Hillary will mention who her running mate was (is).
Gee whiz!

Was (will) he be black? Or did (will) he simply have the expertise, real or perceived, required to deal with current critical foreign situations? Or both???!

Of course Hillary will carefully couch this in the context of challenges Obama is ready to meet and beat. And of course she will note Obama has judiciously selected a running mate ready to partner with him on foreign as well as domestic change.

Doc Liberty and rickm
Doc Liberty:
You're exactly right, the superdelegates (with at most a few exceptions) won't switch at the convention because I think almost all of what ex-canuck wrote WOULD become reality. I actually think there are probably enough superdelegates right now who would LIKE to switch from Obama to Hillary if they could do so without tearing the Democratic Party apart to give the nomination to Hillary Clinton - but the problem is, by this point in time, they can't do so WITHOUT tearing the party apart and costing the Democrats the black vote, not just for the 2008 presidential election, but for the next several presidential election cycles to come, as black voters would conclude that a heist by Hillary Clinton of Obama's nomination at the convention would show that NEITHER political party cares about blacks anymore, so why bother to vote? Not to mention how the riots all across our country that such a heist would touch off would reflect on the Democrats when played out right before the world's TV cameras - and this would be one time even the left couldn't credibly blame the right for the spectacle.

rickm:
I agree with you that Hillary will try to subtly sabotage Obama's general election chances - and probably will use her speech at the Democratic convention as part of that scheme (as will her husband the next night). I think she'll choose her words carefully to engender doubt in the minds of Democratic voters about whether they REALLY made the right choice in the primaries without openly appearing to oppose Obama. Fortunately for the Clintons, they still have a legion of political hitmen willing to do their dirty work for them, who figure to be plenty busy in the fall behind the scenes.

ex-canuck: Super delegates won't flip-
-precisely because your fantasy is too d@mned close to what would really happen. (WIth the exception of the last line, of course.)

Clinton Plots to Undermine Obama
The plot thickens. The Clintons got to play their parts in the Democratic convention. Clinton’s ultimate goal is to become President. Her immediate goal is to get nominated, failing that, she has to make sure Obama will not win the election so that she can come back in 2012 as the primary choice.

The Clintons, if they think they have enough support of the super-delegates behind them, will make rousing speeches during the convention. She is 305 delegates behind Obama, she needs only 153 super-delegates to switch their votes to become the Democratic nominee. If she does not think she has enough super-delegate support, she will try to undermine Obama’s candidacy to ensure he will not win in the general election. She has to do this very delicately. She must not be seen trying to sabotage Obama’s election, otherwise, she will alienate the party thus endangering her chance in 2012. It is interesting to watch the Democratic convention as the plot unwinds.

Political sarcasm
This paragraph is why Jonah - along with Mark Stein and Ann Coulter - is one of the best practitioners of political sarcasm today:

"ndeed, shocking as this may be to people naive enough to believe that a woman with no executive experience, no security clearance, no significant successes under her belt, who was catapulted to presidential prominence solely because her husband treated her like a cautionary tale in a country-music song, was nonetheless a co-president for eight years: It turns out that the Bride of Clintonstein was an awful chief executive. Infected by her husband's passive-aggressiveness, she stood paralyzed as the HMS Hillary took on more and more water, until even the string quartet on the deck was leaping for the flotation devices."

There is simply no one on the left to compare.

Catharsis
Hillary says it will help bring the party together. Give me a break. It’s her way of saying to ‘Bama, “I’m not going away!!”

I don’t see this as “healing” the demonrats. Quite the opposite. And, it shows what a pissant he is, that he can’t ignore FrankenClinton and his bride.

Is it really socialism?
Why does everyone keep calling Communism Socialism? As I am almost older than dirt I can remember what Communism was all about and why we fought against it. Our country fought against it. I think it is a very big thing when the communist party indorses Obama. Yet everyone is silent on this especially the MSM. Even Fox News ignores it.

I watched this really great grass roots political ad on utube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbW64215HA8. It was fascinating. It gives me hope for our young people.

Oh! On my last post I meant to say I agree with ex-Wyomingite. I would never waste my vote on Barr.


And he scores!
Katz does it again! Perfectly said, my man. Bravissimo.

Return from the dead?
Forget about the Clinton's supermonster return from the dead. Have you forgotten that the messiah has solved that problem?

What I fear is how long will we humans continue to seek these leaders that view us as naive "Soylent Green."

It's all a big control game. A merger of photoshop and the Peter Principle.


OBAMA SOCIALISM
The black candidate wants to destroy our military and surrender to al Qaeda in Iraq and round the world. He wants to have tea with Ahmadinejad and Asad and make friends with Osama, Hamas, Hezbollah, Fatah and all the Jihadists to do some swapping of ideas.

He wants to sip a glass of rum and smoke a good Cuban cigar with Raul, Fidel, Hugo and the other Latin American despots to discuss the merits of Socialism. He wants to bring change to Washington, D.C. Raising taxes on everything is not the only change Obama will make. His Marxist plans are to destroy our U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights with Socialism.

He not only wants to tax Corporate America into bankruptcy he wants to tax every human being in our country who is gainfully employed from the wealthiest to the poorest and raise Social Security taxes in order to finance his Socialist ideas of rob the rich and give to nonproductive citizens.

Apparently the black candidate does not realise Socialism is and has been a miserable failure everywhere in the world. Think EU, North Korea, Cuba, Bolivia and Venezuela.

If Hillary Clinton gets the count in roll call that surpasses Obama in the popular vote, what happens?

It's Just Too Bad
Hillary and Bill cannot turn the lights and the sound systems off and exit with Hillary's supporters.

I agree with Tubbs
I wasted my vote on Ross P.. (I can't even say his name anymore) because I was mad at Bush for getting us into Desert Storm. What a mistake. It put the whole country in the hands of the Clinton's. As hard as I find it to pull the lever for McCain I guess I am going to have to vote for him. Having said that, I still contemplate not voting if he has a Dem, or a Pro-abortion, anti-family, or Romney for VP. In good conscience I don't think I will be able to pull the lever for two bad choices. I still hope that Palin or anyone who stands for Republican Values get picked, but I think McCain is trying to lose.

ex-Wyomingite
Are you the republican party base whip?

One day, the crazy guy wearing the 'the end is near' sandwich board on the street corner will be right.

Monsters ball
Cleverly crafted piece Mr. Goldberg.

Truth re-examined, we should be grateful that the Clintons engaged what you describe as “diminishing Obama’s victories” in the primary season. Sen. Clinton’s last to leave the ball presence promoted the Rev. Wright appearance at the press club and the falsetto freakishness of ‘Father’ Phleger. In horror terms, the Clinton’s stayed behind and ‘held him back’ as the rest of us got to escape the beast leaving the lab.

They did the Republic a service in truncating Sen. Obama’s standing as he sought to become a great primary colossus.

Tea Party
You're fictional account of the Dem Convention would certainly make for good TV. But the reality won't be anywhere near as exciting or controversial as you suggest (or as rwcons NEED it to be).

Coup
Keep your eyes open boys and girls, the Clintonista's coup is well under way. Pay particular attention to the roll call Thursday PM.

Surely
you are dreaming, but then again maybe not,
media is in the tank for Obama. If Hilary does
snatch victory from defeat at the convention, watch your t.v. listings. It might just mysteriously appear in prime time and at Walmart.

If the roll call goes in favor of the clintons,
what are Obama's followers going to do? This is a cult and cults can get fanatical. This
convention is a must see.

I can imagine the angst within the super delegate cabal..what to do, oh what to do, what must I do. What a delicious pickle they've
gotten themselves in with their arrogance.

ABC's "The Path to 9/11" DVD?
While the Clintons, at least, are somewhat down and relegated to the back burner, can't ABC see fit to take the opportunity to release the DVD of "The Path to 9/11"?

Neither Obama or McCain: Vote Bob Barr
Both John McCain and Barack Hussein Obama will pursue liberal agendas.

Both McCain and Obama will continue shamnesty for illegals.

Both McCain and Obama will raise taxes (remember McCain has flip flopped on Bush's tax cuts for a long time now)

Both McCain and Obama will send our jobs overseas and turn the U.S. into a 3rd world country

Vote For Bob Barr in 2008

Bob Barr is the only true conservative (either Bob Barr or the Constitution party but no Democrats or Republicans!)

The Bride Of Frankenstein ?
I have been consistently and emphatically stating for several months the return of the main 'Witch of Eastwick'. Several pooh-poohed me.

Anyone who thought the Clintons would give up without a fight was dreaming. They were dissed by the DNC and many voters. Worst of all,they were kicked to the curb by their normally fawning news media.

The whole cabal must be livid. You just do NOT DO THAT to the Clintons!! Not and get by with it. What will satisfy them now? Who knows? It is surely making for an interesting convention,though.


Hillary Wins
Quite frankly, I hope Hillary somehow gets the Democratic nomination. I started this election with a "No More Clintons, No More Bushes" attitude, but after seeing the inexperience of Obama, the danger of his policies and, what I see as his dislike of America, I pray the Democrats will be smart enough to make Hillary the nominee. For the good of the country.

Clintons, Trusted-Paid Advisors Wrong
They got out freed by Obamamama offiering everything free, not just ordinary health care and the like. It will be everything. The smart ones, the Republicans, have given us free trade, open borders, continued 32 years of trade deficit, the largest public debt, etc., and free run of the Treasury to anyone or anything who has favors to give, what else is there to give away?

Sorry - this is crap
Sure the Clintons are like a recurring nightmare, but . . .

The idea that they knew they couldn't beat Obama is crazy. They STILL don't believe they've been beaten, and in truth, they have not been beaten.

Neither Obama or Hillary has enough pledged delegates to win the nomination. Both need the hyper fickle superdelagate votes to win the nomination. Contrary to what's been the consensus, there has been no offical vote of superdelagates.

There will be a roll call at the convention. Obama will probably win - but he hasn't yet - and it will only take one poll showing Hillary beating McCain and Obama losing to restart this controversy.

Clintons?
Clintons? Mosters only exist if you let them exist! Remember when you were a kid! How did you get rid of the monsters? You ignored them! To me the Clintons' are not monsters because they do not exist to me! Try it sometime! It will reduce your stress and blood pressure a lot! HAND!

Dracula alive in Chicago
Did Islamofacist Hussein Che Obama capitulate to the Marxist Clinton's?

Hussein Che Obama failed his first Test of being a strong leader.

So many of the people associated with the Clinton Administratiion are no longer around to tell the tales about their associations.

Hussein Che Obama should be afraid to take a shower.

Horror movies
But who actually went to see "Friday the 13th
part 102"? The only people who are scared of the Clintons is TH! If scary movies or the Clintons keep the rwcons up at night, maybe they should rent Bedtime for Bonzo or some other light fare?

or is it that rwcons always have a boogie man on ice for their rapidly eroding base? TH and Luciannes little boy sound desperate!

Obama Delusion
Where was he born, why was the book that housed the 1961 births removed in Hawaii and why is there no record at the three Hawaii hospitals of his birth? What is his accomplishments and who was his shocking group of associates?

The convention is going to be very interesting.

Terminator
My favorite image of the two thugs is that of the pile of metal to which the terminator has been reduced at the end of the movie. Just as you heave a sigh of relief, the camera zooms in on the blinking red light.

Sir, You Are a Genius!
You always seem to get it right.

Your _Liberal_Fascism_ can be compared to _The_Dinosaur_Heresies_ of the mid 1980's: it is a very accessible and entertaining, but a seminal book whose argument completely changes the way political scientists view the progressive/liberal movement in America.

You the man!
This was one of the funniest, or should I say scariest pieces you've ever written.

doctorfixit is right
Okay, we get it. Obama and Clinton are not good choices for President.
But McCain has repeatedly stabbed the conservative base in the back. Why is he any better?

Still waiting for a reason to vote R
So far it's nothing but Obama, Obama, Obama.

Obama's a lib-turd. The Clintons are spitoon oysters. I get it.

You have nothing better than that to vote for McCain?

ex-canuck:
Interesting fantasy.

Has the FEC looked into the New Orleans
charity that was going to pony up several millions of dollars to make up the "shortfall" in the Dems' coffers to pay for their useless convention?

And is it true that, because the Dems won't confirm someone as a director or governor or whatever of the FEC, it can't really do anything about any shenanigans in this election?

Sorry. Couldn't work in a monster reference.

Fantasy
Floor vote held at Democrat convention includes Florida and Michigan delegates. In a surprise vote, Hillary Rodham Stalin, er, Clinton is nominated. Left wing crazies, assorted netroots, Kos-acks and Huffposters riot in the streets.Obama supporters burn down Watts, Harlem, south side Chicago, and Detroit, thus IMPROVING conditions in those locales.Despite pleas by Pelosi for calm, Maxine Waters leads armed assault on Congress, but is diverted by Marion Barry holding a crack pipe and motel room keys.
On election day 60% of african-american voters refuse to vote, and McCain-Powell ticket wins landslide victory. In speech, McCain promises Romney as Sec. Commerce, Fred Thompson as Sec. State, and Dr. Thomas Sowell as Secretary of Common Sense in Government, a new uber-cabinet post with plenipotentiary power to shut down whole departments.

The Clintons Will Never Go Away
That is the reality. The upcoming convention is going to be interesting and they will again try to sway the superdelegates to vote for them.

You know Obama is constantly looking over his shoulder at what they are doing. If he isn't, then he is even more naive than I thought. I will not be surprised at all if Hillary comes out of the convention as the Democrat nominee.

Dangerous Monsters
tThe drama being played out by these two equally noxious candidates could be akin to the Bride of Frankenstein versus Dracula. He would suck the blood from the United States and she would lurch across the nation creating chaos. I wish the liberals would have chosen a better cast of characters or that someone would put a stake through both their hearts. I think both B. Hussein and Mrs. Bill Clinton are monsters and both are dangerous.
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