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Wednesday, July 23, 2008
Jonah Goldberg :: Townhall.com Columnist
For McCain, Surge is a Losing Strategy
by Jonah Goldberg
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"Senator Obama didn't support the surge, wanted to pull out, said that it would fail. I supported it when it was the toughest thing to do. I believe that my record on national security and keeping this country safe is there. And the American people will examine our records, and I will win."

That's John McCain explaining why he'll win.

He's wrong.

He's leading a loud chorus of conservatives and Republicans desperate to make the surge the defining issue of the campaign.

In an editorial for the conservative Weekly Standard, Fred Kagan (the primary intellectual author of the surge strategy) wrote: "It would be hard to design a better test for the job of commander in chief than the real-life test senators John McCain and Barack Obama have undergone in the last two years."

It's understandable why so many Republicans see the surge as an ideal political battleground. Outside foreign policy, McCain's standing with the GOP base is shaky. The party doesn't have many policy wins to brag about. And Obama doesn't have much of a record to attack. Also, many hawks - often called neoconservatives - see the surge as vindication that they were right about the feasibility of the Iraq invasion from the beginning. It was President Bush's bungling that was wrong, they say, not the war itself.

Whatever the merits of all that, there's a problem. As political analysis, it's nonsense.

Yes, McCain heroically pushed for the surge when the war was at its most unpopular point. Even more impressive, he favored a change in strategy back when the war was popular.

Within months of the invasion, McCain was calling for more troops and the head of then-Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. Later, when the Iraqi civil war erupted, al-Qaida in Iraq metastasized and Iran mounted a clandestine surge of its own, McCain doubled down; he argued that we couldn't afford to lose and proposed a revised counterinsurgency strategy for victory. That was the same month that Obama introduced the "Iraq War De-Escalation Act of 2007."

That's great stuff for McCain's biographers. But the catch-22 is that the more the surge succeeds, the more advantageous it is for Obama.

Voters don't care about the surge; they care about the war. Americans want it to be over - and in a way they can be proud of.

Richard Nixon didn't win in 1968 by second-guessing LBJ about the mess in Vietnam; he ran on getting us out with honor. McCain is great when talking about honor, but the getting-us-out part is where he gets tongue-tied. Obama, meanwhile, talks about leaving Iraq as though Americans don't care about honor. That may have worked in the early primaries, but it won't in the general election. Americans don't like to lose wars.

Politically, the surge is a bit like the Supreme Court's recent decision affirming the constitutional right to own a gun. Obama's position on gun rights, a miasma of murky equivocation, would hurt him if gun control were a big issue this year. It isn't, thanks to the high court's ruling. That's a huge boon.

The surge has done likewise with the war. If it were going worse, McCain's Churchillian rhetoric would match reality better. But with sectarian violence nearly gone, al-Qaida in Iraq almost totally routed and even Sadrist militias seemingly neutralized, the stakes of withdrawal seem low enough for Americans to feel comfortable voting for Obama. Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Maliki's support for an American troop drawdown pushes the perceived stakes even lower.

Recall that Bill Clinton, with his dovish record and roster of "character issues," would never have been elected if the Soviet Union hadn't collapsed in 1991. With the Cold War over, the successful Reagan surge (and Bush pere's cleanup efforts) made rolling the dice on Clinton tolerable. The McCain surge (and Bush fils' success at averting another 9/11) produces the same effect for Obama.

A silver lining for McCain is that Obama's arrogance and sense of indebtedness to his party's antiwar base have elicited a series of credibility-damaging zigzags on Iraq. Obama would do better to promise peace with honor as soon as possible, then quickly move on to economy talk. The subsequent bleating from the bug-out lefties would be useful testament to Obama's rumored centrism.

Although the economy will dominate this election, McCain can still press his advantage on foreign policy. But not with I-told-you-sos. Re-arguing the surge is almost as counterproductive as re-arguing the war itself. Elections are about the future.

McCain doesn't need to explain why he'd be a better commander in chief. Voters already acknowledge his superior judgment on foreign policy by huge margins. He needs to explain why, going forward, we'll need that judgment.

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Yep

Even among Republicans, Iraq is waaaay down on the list of issues; the highest I've seen it hit is as third priority, and most polls place it significantly lower.

#1 is the economy..... an issue McRINO himself says he knows almost nothing about.

Gas prices have jumped way up the list... and McRINO's on the wrong side of that issue.

As he is on most, come to think of it.

McCain eschews the votes of conservative
Republicans. He goes after the disaffected Hillary supporters. Well, sort of. So far he hasn't used a dandy statistic that shows Obama for the hypocrite his is (#14).: On Obama's Senate staff women are outnumbered and OUTPAID by men ... on average, at least $6,000 less than the average man.

Of 6 people paid $100,000 or more, only one is a woman.

On McCain's staff women outnumber men 30 to 16, and are paid an average of $3,000 more than the men.

If lots of Hillary voters are working women, wouldn't it make a little bit of sense to stir them up with statistics like this?

If he isn't on the wrong side of an issue, McC is simply oblivious to it.

Goldberg bricked on this one
This is not like Jonah, but he is way off the mark. The surge is McCain's focus now only because Obama is over their in the media's glow. And Obama's stunning error in opposing the surge shows he's not WRIGHT for America!

BTW, I've been telling everyone I know to check out that website http://www.notwrightformamerica.com. It's great, and they cover this story also.

no good deed goes unpunished
It's like what Dick Morris was saying. Bush's high popularity after 911 was not really deserved - he hadn't really done anything.

However, due to the fact we haven't gotten hit since 911, Bush now deserves credit for all the wiretapping he did to stop terrorism. But because we're secure, we just assume there never was much of a threat - so Bush will never get credit - but he'll get blamed for heavy tactics.

I think Obama is going to have a window where he can take advantage of the relative calm that he had nothing to do with. But we'll get bit for electing such a light weight in dangerous times.

Hey BrianR
If you've got a backhoe handy, or know where we can get one, I know of a WHOLE LOT of your fellow TownHallers who would be more than happy to come out to our place to help you dig to the bottom of that pile of manure Wobbie just dumped, and bury him in it.

Then we could have a BBQ to celebrate being rid of Townhalls BullSh!t King.

Another smart Alex utterly confused!
America is now a fullfledged Empire heading in the same direction as all previous Empires, and will make absolutely no difference whether Obam or McCain replace Emperor and King George W. If America is not now an Empire, please prove otherwise?

Very nice analysis by Jonah Goldberg.
Goldberg makes the case that the surge may undermine McCain much more forcefully than what has been posited by other Townhall columnists.

Goldberg hits the nail on the head with: "Americans don't care about the surge; they care about the war. They want it to be over..and in a way they can be proud of".

I know that view runs counter to the neocon wetdream for perpetual mideast wars, utilizing our military to foist democracy upon the region.

But that is the judgment of the American people.

Twilight time for the neocons.


Shocked
I agree with Jonah 100% on this article.
The surge is now in the past. McCain sitting in the golf cart with Bush 41 while BHO is jet setting is an unfavorable comparison. McCain looks old and past his time.

George H W Bush
McCain is stupid for having a photo op with old man Bush. It highlights his own age. Plus, it was obvious Bush does not like McCain by his body language.
I could care less about the surge, we should have returned the troops home after capturing Sadaam.
We need our roads and hospitals built here...our infrastructure is a mess.
What is important: gas prices, confidence in our banks, limited funds for our state budgets, and morons sending 48 billion to Africa for sex diseases.

I emailed McCain's campaign
I advised him to start taking some positions that made him different from the Democrats. No drilling in ANWR: same. Illegal immigrants are ok. Same. No fence on the border. Same. Global warming. Same.
Since McCain the "maverick" undermined Bush's picks for the Supreme Court (I think he wanted to stick his finger in Bush's eye for beating him in the primaries) by forming the Gang of 14 and wasting the Republican majority who were threatening the "nuclear option", he has proven he can not be trusted to keep his word. Since he supported the Comprehensive Immigration Reform and had a temper tantrum, insulting the public, when it failed to pass, he can not be trusted. Since he wants illegals to be here, he cannot be trusted to oppose any measure that keeps them from qualifying for social security benefits, or getting rid of sanctuary cities, etc. When he joins Feingold to pass an unconstitutional bill restricting political speech in violation of the First Amendment, which was created by our Founders to protect "robust political speech" (not burning flags or obscenity), then he cannot be trusted. We only have his word that he is changing his positions on these issues to suit the GOP and conservatives and true Americans everywhere. How does that differeniate him from Obama? All we have from him is words. This is the worst election in my lifetime. I will hold my nose to vote for McCain as a vote against Obama who is simply a Marxist AND a proven liar, but I do not have high hopes for a McCain presidency either. God help America.

It is What it Is
Let's not forget the primary point, which is, that both the American, and the Iraqi people, are looking now for a better defined exit strategy than "stay the course". Over the last few weeks, we've seen the Iraqi government, facing it's own elections, set aside the permanent forces agreement and instead move to an agreement of understanding. At the same time, they want some dates in that agreement that, based on some level of performance that they can judge themselves, enables them to tell their own people when and how American forces will draw down and leave. And currently, the year talked about the most by the Iraqi's for the time when most American forces will be gone, is 2010. At the same time, they want language that they can show their people that proves that America will leave entirely, and without continuing to occupy bases in Iraq. All of this creates a shift that McCain needs to respond to. When Obama first talked about 16 months - which would be mid-2010, he was roundly criticized. Now, the Iraqi's have also used that year. McCain can no longer get much mileage out of claiming that we will "stay however long it takes", and critisizing Obama for talking about a date for withdrawal. That's now past history, as the Iraqi's have changed the course of the debate. Americans want out honorably, but they most definitely want out. And the Iraqi's want us out, and do not want our forces on their soil indefinitely.

So, McCain needs to discuss the current realities, not the past. Just as most Americans are no longer interested in debating why the surge didn't take place in the first year, rather than the 4th, they are no longer going to care very much about the fact tht people argued over either setting, or not setting dates for likely withdrawal. It is what it is.

The politics of the Surge
Actually, I'm one conservative who doesn't have an issue with the fact that Obama opposed the Surge. Given the fact that Obama was against the U.S. going to war in Iraq in the first place, it actually is totally consistent with his view on the war for him to have opposed the Surge, also. If he believed it was a mistake to go to war in the first place, then at least he's being philosophically consistent in opposing any escalation of the war.

I've always said that, while I was in favor of the war from the get-go (and for reasons that had little to do, by the way, with the stated reasons the Bush Administration gave to justify the war), I understood the point of view of those at the time who opposed us going to war in Iraq, and while I didn't necessarily agree with them, I didn't have an issue with them being opposed to the war. I've never faulted the Howard Deans and Barack Obamas of the world for taking a position from the outset against the war and sticking to it come what may ever since. It's the John Kerrys and Hillary Clintons that I have the issue with on the war - the Democrats who have tried to have it both ways on the Iraq War between its onset and now.

But Obama's position on the Surge really doesn't factor into my decision not to vote for him; I have so many other reasons for not wanting to vote for him that his position on the Surge is hardly even a blip on my philosophical radar screen. Even IF Obama's and McCain's positions on the Iraq War and the Surge were identical, that by itself would not induce me to vote for Obama.

I disagree
I don't normally disagree with JG, but I do so this time. As he parades around the globe with his msm cheerleaders, BHO is finally facing some arguably tough questions. Along these lines, he was recently asked, "If you knew then what you know now, would you have supported the surge?" Answer, "no".

Parade THAT in front of middle-America, along with BHO's innumerable other riduculous, empty statements, and he'll go down in flames in November. The only variable is whether McCain and his advisors will wake up in time from their sleepwalking through this campaign. This country will NOT support a loser, period.

Sorry, you're wrong !!!
Obama is making his central claim to be commander-in-chief based on his proposal to leave Iraq by March of 2008. Obviouly not achieved but still a point of emphasis from him. He wondered aloud what would have happened if the surge had not taken place and hinted that Iraq would be just as safe today without the surge. He gave credit to the Sunnis for aligning with the Iraqi government but could "put a number" on what percentage U.S. military heroism played a part. What a slap at the military !! McCain is right to say, hey we can leave with honor because the Iraqis are taking more responsibility because the surge is succeeding. Americans are not that dumb !! They understand what success breeds; a withdrawal with dignity and accomplishment. Kindly don't take the Obama route and presume that all Americans are ignorant, self-centered boobs who can't analyze situations. Remember the press presumed that Reagan couldn't get elected and he did. McCain is certainly no Reagan, but he believes in the goodness and obligations of this country. It is a story of sacrifice in Iraq that should always be repeated over the din of the mindless screams of an anti-American left. Conservatives must tell their story and educate the public to compete with the propaganda of the Obamas of the world and the American new media !!

John Pilato
Buffalo, New York

McLame -- Hand picked by MSM
#4 You said exactly what I have been saying to others with every word. I will be absentee voting, so I guess I can just have a glass of wine, get mellow and then hold my nose and vote for this creation of MSM.

God has been blessing this nation since its inception. When will this nation get back to giving thanks to God for the men who wrote the Constitution by putting people in office who will uphold this document. WHEN?????

Marcmat says
"Parade THAT in front of middle-America, along with BHO's innumerable other riduculous, empty statements, and he'll go down in flames in November."

I think Jonah just realized it won't make BHO go down in flames. The surge is over in any case, this BHO tour just put it in the past. Look who's talking about Afganistan today? GWBush that's who. And guess who's gonna get the credit? BHO. He's the one who was talking about Afganistan as the important theater.
McCain is a step slow and the cons are no help.
McCain better step it up.

Just a Thinker
Never - sad to say. 80% of the public couldn't give you a rational explanation of the difference between a republican form of government, and the direct democracy we've become. And if they don't even understand the basics, they'll never vote for someone who does. Most cite the pledge of allegiance and believe that because it says "for the Republic for which we stand", that we must indeed be a republic. So, they vote for those who have concentrated 80% of the spending power in Washington, have no idea why they'd actually want the system we even had 50 years ago in which the states combined had the same spending budgets as the feds, and don't have a clue why health, education and welfare, among other things, would be better resolved within their states with their tax dollars - 1/2 of which should be kept in the states, not shipped off to Washington. We have the blind leading the blind anymore. The tragedy of the post WWII years is that it focussed people on the idea that Washington was their solution. Unlike in the states, however, the people have no ability to vote for and reject new spending. So, the feds have simply continued to grow their taxes and their revenues, without any meaningful control.

You and I have little to vote for precisely because of this fact. A vote, after all, is in many ways an agreement to support the system in place, even though I don't remotely support it.

McCain vs BHO
If BHO is as good as everyone thinks he is, why is inept John and BHO even in the polls? It's probably because no one trusts Big John, but they trusts BHO less. All the people have to do is get BHO to talk without a prompter, and they will know how possitively inept he is, more inept than Big John. Hearing him stutter, BHO that is, is soo painfull to even to the the most dedicated libs. Along with the insistance of the libs that we are not going to drill for our oil, sounds like a winning combination.

wrightsrong52
"Look who's talking about Afganistan today? GWBush that's who. And guess who's gonna get the credit? BHO. He's the one who was talking about Afganistan as the important theater."

While you are probably not wrong about who is getting the credit for "talking" about Afghanistan, the President (GWBush) is actually doing things. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs met with Pakistani leaders back before Obama's trip. The Chairman basically told Pakistani leaders that they either do something or the U.S. will.

Second point is that before we went to war in Afghanistan, many of the Afghanis the U.S. was talking to, said they did NOT want a large footprint of U.S. soldiers, marines, etc. in their country.

So Obama, is wrong about having a surge in Afghanistan. He would actually have to "think" for a change and listen to his commanders and the Afghanis. But, we know where he stands on that, he doesn't even want to listen to Petraeus.

its a shame
i give mccain credit for standing up to bush/rumsfeld, he definitely saved american lives.

i wish other conservatives/republicans would have had the courage to challenge the war strategy but they were too busy telling anyone who opposed the strategy that they were traitors and were undermining the troops.

obama is lucky, because the surge and maliki have reinforced his message that we could be out by 2010.

here is where mccain has a real problem.
on one hand he is literlly screaming at the cameras that the surge has succeded but than turns around and says we still can't leave.

it is illogical to americans that he is now the only one who refuses to talk about timelines and getting out of iraq.

now i understand his argument that he wants it to be totally pacified but americans are sick of the war and don't care if shias and sunnis want to fight each other.

he just looks like bush did in 2005 yelling "stay the course", "stay the course".

the argument that he puts forth about the commanders on the ground is the one bush has used and it grates on americans.

as obama put it, the president is commander in chief not petraeus, and although we owe petraeus and debt of gratitude, the president should be setting the goals.

finally, yesterday was horrific for mccain as far as photo ops.
there is obama in a blackhawk with petraeus while mccain rides around the beach with bush the first.

what a poor campaign he is running.



christianlib
"he just looks like bush did in 2005 yelling "stay the course", "stay the course".

"Stay the course" never meant continuing to do exactly what we are doing. It meant that we need to continue with this war UNTIL WE WIN!

BTW, "bush" is actually President Bush. Show some respect for the office. Of course, that might be too much to ask of you ilk.

I bet before the negotiations between the U.S. and Iraq have been completed, "President Bush" gets what he wants out of it.


Be A Maverick! No Votes For McCain!

The Stupid Party

The RNC wants an amnesty candidate.

Don't vote for one.

Another amnesty will result in Democrat majorities for decades, or until they are supplanted by the La Raza Party, why doesn't the RNC know that? How stupid do you have to be to import voters for the opposition at the same time you alienate your own voters? Nominating any of the amnesty supporters is a losing proposition, we will not support them. If the GOP intends to surrender our sovereignty and abandon the rule of law, they will find in November 2008, that they still have their big money/cheap labor donors, but they do not have voters. GOP-RIP

Marine's Dad, Buck

LOL, guys!

I take it that after I hit the sack, the lyin' sack... uh, I mean Roberto ... posted one of his usual diatribes.

As usual, it's gone by the AM, meaning now.

Bummer, I'm sure. But thanks for covering my six.

I always ignore the nitwit anyway, so even if I'd still been online, I'd have just shined whatever it was, knowing it would be gone in the morning.


Here in LA you get used to the junkies and alkies and other pinheads wandering down the middle of the road, shaking their fists at the sky and having very loud conversations with God. It's just part of the background noise to the urban scene.

Same deal with Roberto.



"Peace with Honor" blech
If a war is immoral and wrong it is immoral and wrong. Only a totally self-centered person would want to get out with honor. The American people want to get out and confess that the war was immoral.

Goldberg is up to his usual inaccuracies. Electing Clinton had nothing to do with ending the cold war. Clinton is the more personable and smart politician in the last fifty years, before Obama that is.

pat
"the course" was wrong and that is why rumsfeld was fired.

please define winning because you sound like mccain.
we have gotten rid of saddam, they have soverign elected government, and violence has lessened greatly.

the iraqis want us out by 2010, americans want us out, even bush is talking timelines.

by the way, exactly who is "your ilk".

are you assuming all liberals think and act alike.
do you think all conservatives think and act alike?

do not stereotype, we can debate and disagree as human beings without being put in a box.

i respect bush, do you say " former president clinton" every time you refer to him, i sure don't.

presidents are just men and although i respect the office i am not in awe or think i must bow down any of them republican or democrat.

I respectfully disagree with Jonah.
Like the saying goes, people will support a war…if you win it. And the surge is definitely the reason things are turning around in Iraq right now, so I don’t see how it can be a losing issue for McCain…unless that is all he is talking about in his campaign. But at this isolated moment in time, he had better be out there front and center giving his “I told you so” comments, especially as Obama’s trip has and stance that even with 20/20 hindsight he would not have supported a strategy change that worked. He would be a stone fool to miss out on this opportunity to highlight his differences with Obama on how he would wage this war, and what his plans are for the future of the conflict. Why should McCain let this chance to highlight their positional differences go by the wayside, and let his opponent have the bully pulpit?
McCain has a lot of problems trying to convince conservatives to support him, so he should be stressing this right now as it may be just the issue to get some of the national defense conservatives to take a second look at him. And I reject the idea that the American people just want us to get out of the war…period. Most Americans want us to wrap up this conflict with a victory that we can see, not just a declaration of victory and a running home. If we did that, the lives of all those who have fallen in the conflict would be in vain. And I do not believe that the American people have descended to that level yet.

End The War?????
Nobody, but nobody is going to "end the war".
Least of all, Robert Strange Obama. Iraq is not the war. Iraq is a campaign in the war. Afghanistan is not the war. Afghanistan is a campaign in the war. So forth and so on.

The War is a long-standing theo-cultural conflict that has broken into the open-----and will hopefully stay that way until resolved.

That resolution will occur only when our culture, not theirs, defines worldwide standards of ethical behavior.

Our difficulty is that pretending otherwise and even letting theirs have sway gives off a great deal of momentary comfort. Finding and maintaining the correct methods of assertiveness is much more stressful and requires the individual ability of knowing internal peace precludes notions of "world peace".

Obama gives off the aura that voting the right way will relieve you of the necessity of enduring unpleasantness. McCain gives off the aura that the unendurable can too be endured.

Those are the two driving images of this Presidential campaign. Should Obama win, those that voted for him on those grounds are going to be very disappointed. Should McCain win, his supporters will be better prepared for
doing what can be done.

The former are likely to be throwing a temper tantrum whatever happens. The latter will act in a more mature manner.

Goinna be interesting, either way.

Events
The unpredictable event could still influence this close election.

Nukes, according to Michael Scheuer ("Marching Toward Hell") are lost, stolen. Trained Taliban killers and Al-Qaeda Islamists are among us.

Our open society with its open borders have made us and will continue to make us extremely vulnerable. One might doubt that all the dangerous Islamists have been arrested.

An attack on this country, even by a "loose canon" could help Mccain. A nut could that ongoing dare. And actually determine an important election.

Well Said
Good column.

McCain's Problem
is that he thinks he knows everything he needs to know and is not open to suggestion and can't take criticism. He's another Bob Dole. He will never listen to the advice of conservatives. He is unwilling to look at himself and look for ways to improve his standing. He thinks he can win by just spinning his ideas properly to appeal to the "middle of the road" and left leaning voters.

McCain a moronic buffoon and his opponent is no better. Obama just has the advantage of the compliant media and an opponent too stupid and arrogant to figure out how to beat him.

Iraqi people on this issue
As a conservative who supported the war, my support was somewhat out of concern for the Iraqi people.

I think we should listen to these people we liberated. If they think it is time for us to go, then that is what we should do. We will have obtained our objective, the rest is up to them.

Did we are did we not seek to free Iraq? Have we changed our minds and now want to occupy them forever?

If the majority of the American people feel the way I do on this issue, McCain is beating a dead horse.

Jack
You're right, an attack now would help now McCain which is why it proabably won't happen. They want Obama just as much as all the Moonbat left. Why would they help elect MacCain and guarantee that they will have to go to war to get what they want and doom their prospects of getting it? They can just lay low until after the election, make a few strikes and have it all handed to them buy Neville Obama. He would use the occasion of a big terroist attack to call for calm and say how he is not going to over react. Then he would re-introduce us to the Carter method of "understanding" our enemies and negoitiating with them to guarantee peace. Within a year of his taking office you can bet he will be standing next to Iran's Little Hitler in some neutral European city that is notorious for stupid "peace negotiations" like Helsinki or Zurich.

The only conservatives not voting

for JSM are the ignorant and stupid ones.

He Jonah
Good article as usual.
If McCain had any brains, and sometimes I wonder, he would be up in North and South Dakota expressing his belief in the immediate need to drill for Shale oil. He should be seen trying to get the refinery going in ND to process Canada's sand oil. He should be out on oil rigs in the gulf of Mexico.
Obama is in a situation that mirrors Nancy Pelosi and I can't see how he can wriggle out of past statements regarding oil and energy.
McCain should get on the Drill Here, Drill Now bandwagon.
But alas, McCain is a maverick and will do only what others don't expect him to do.
Welcome to the Presidency Mr. Obama.

Fear Is McCain's Only Hope
The McCainiacs know that they are voting for a Democrat Trojan Horse, it's why they continue to try to use Obamascare. When that doesn't work, they use insults and disparaging remarks.

Shut Up, Get In Line, Hold Your Nose!
(or are you too stupid to do that?)

Winning strategy?

Pat- Bravo!
For your excellent posts. I don't recall having seen your posts before- I'm glad to now.


for jerabaub
jerabaub writes: "I know that view runs counter to the neocon wetdream for perpetual mideast wars, utilizing our military to foist democracy upon the region."

The REAL reason that the neo-cons, and McCain too, are gnashing their teeth now, is that they had (privately) defined "victory in Iraq" to mean turning it into a friendly democratic CLIENT STATE of the U.S.

Yes, they had wanted Saddam out and democracy in. But they had ALSO expected that Iraq would be so grateful to America that it would become an ally of America in the War on Terror. It would allow the U.S. to have military bases inside Iraq for "100 years," as McCain put it. Possibly even establish diplomatic relations between Iraq and Israel. That's the type of arrangement America used to have with the Shah of Iran.

Now that's not likely to happen. The way al-Maliki is behaving, he's more likely to pursue a nonaligned course, with at least cordial relations with Iran. Iraq may not even agree to long-term basing of a U.S. garrison. And they sure won't become friends with Israel.

It's harder and harder to sustain American support for propping up a government in Iraq that's going to turn right around and establish cordial relations with Iran. But that's how the thing looks right now.

for Proud Liberal
Proud Liberal writes: 'The American people want to get out and confess that the war was immoral."

Really? Have you asked any who are not liberals like yourself?

Liberals are the ONLY Americans who think America has anything to apologize for to the rest of the world.

The rest of us think that the rest of the world should fall on its feet and thank us sometime for saving them from Hitler, Stalin, Tojo, Milosovic, Saddam, Osama, etc. It's too bad we have to save your worthless liberal a** too.

If San Francisco is ever wrecked by a huge earthquake, we conservatives will still send economic aid to save the liberals of San Francisco from themselves. We won't enjoy it, but we'll still do it as our duty as Americans. That should give you an idea of the kind of people we are.

salty dog
You seem to be implying that 'the Iraqi people' want us to leave already.

On what do you base that broad notion?

Bear in mind that there are alot of people there, they don't all think the same way, and.... THEY HAVE THEIR VERY OWN DEMOCRATS, who would like to see the war lost and their country taken over by Iran/AQ.

We all want combat operations to end there. But leaving before it's secure would be throwing away everything we've done. We don't do that based on a gallup poll.

the article
Mr. Goldberg seems to be saying that since the fire's out now, Americans will think things can safely be turned back over to the children.
And that it doesn't behoove anyone to remind us that one guy knew how to put it out and the other one didn't. That doesn't matter anymore.
Maybe so.

I do agree with him that JM will have to be careful about an "I told you so" tone. Best let surrogates do that, and focus on the future.
I like McCain best when he is talking about America and her strengths (which is also a point of separation from his opponent), and that is a topic most applicable to the economy.

Steve L
You are missing the big picture and believing the Bush admin press. Bush is not a neocon he is a big government conservative. He does not expect the Iraqis to walk in lock step with us. He is just trying to stabilize that region. We can live with Arab governments that don't like us or Israel, whe just can't live with governments that take overt actions to undermine our power in the region. The point is to put down the Islamic Fundamentalis uprising and ensure that the governments in place are ones that aren't going to foment war and undermine the ability of the rest of the world to draw on the oil supply there. Remember the Carter doctrine?: "It's our oil and we will do whatever it takes to ensure its free flow to the West".

for SteveL
You could not have said it any clearer. Initial intentions were to estabslish a central location in the Middle East, but the prolonged likelihood of that happenning is doubtful. Our influence in the Middle East is, without trying to sound at all like a conspiracist, is to establish "home base" for Middle Eastern affairs. "Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer." The invasion of Iraq was a convulation of many things; demand for foreign oil, money, terror, and oh yea, democracy. So now we have one heck of a mess over there and need to get out. But don't think for a minute that will happen. Needing something and having the ability to do are two completely different things. The sh@!'s hit the fan and we're out of ammo, boys! All we can do now is wait it out. This has, is, and will be our policy for some time. Leaving Iraq now will force the U.S. to lose even more credibility with the world. Credibility, isn't that like credit? Oh, yea. We're borrowing money (on credit) to finance this war. This credit, however, is not on the ability to repay a debt or timeliness thereof, but instead credit on a display of action and power. Why does the little kid give his lunch money to the big kid? So the big kid doesn't beat the snot out of him, and he will beat the snot out of anyone else who tries to take his lunch money first. Maybe one author was right, everything we ever needed to know, we learned in kindergarden. If only it were that simple in the real world. Bottom line, Iraq is Iraq. Stop complaining about woulda, coulda, shoulda. We're in this mess and need to finish it. Meanwhile, Obama flies around on his "Tour of Duty" in the middle of a warzone discussing "troop commitments", which he doesn't have the authority to make. Does anyone see what's going on here. You have to read between the lines a little.

Hunker Down
McCain can't walk and chew gum at the same time. I like him as a person but he is failing mentally on almost a daily basis. Not good as a President.

Obama is an empty suit who has hit the jackpot. Even with McCain's gaffes Obama is still only about 6 points ahead. If there was a better republican candidate Obama would lose. He is all talk and no substance. Typical liberal. You can look back at Kennedy, Johnson and Carter and see where this is going. Clinton doesn't count...he was more a populist than a democrat.

So, hunker down and wait for 4 years.

Buck
As much as we want to pretend otherwise, it is about the oil that lubricates world commerce. If the Arabs had no oil or any other means to become wealthy enough to be a problem we would not care. We would just support Israel and a sub-civilization of the West and let the Muslims kill each other as much as they want.

Watch Your Words
Running for a major political office and you utter the words "I do not know anything about the economy." That disqualifies you, right then and there.

I hope McCain doesn't listen to Goldberg
I have been saying this for over a month now.

McCain, if you are listening, forget about every other issue -

You have no clue about economics. Fine. The economy is NO PROBLEM. People love what 8 years of Bush has done for them and want another helping. Just tell them you are just as big a moron as Bush.

You don't know how to log on to a computer and read email? Tell everyone that, over and over. Make fun of how you are so old and doddering you can't do what any 6 year old can do today. It will endear you to people and make them feel sorry for you.

You have no clue how to deal with the huge deficit and the declining dollar Bush has left us with after squandering billions a month on Iraq for years? No problem. Americans could care less what their dollar will buy!!! They wil vote for you anyway!!!

You have no plan to wean America off its dependency on oil as its primary source of energy? Just keep repeating - we need to drill and drill our way out of this. Its no problem that we borrow money from China to spend in Arab countries that hate us! China and Saudi Arabia are our friends! They want to make sure we remain rich and powerful. No problem - you don't need an energy plan! People will just love that about you and rush to the polls.

Yes. Keep telling McCain the stupidities he spouts are the prescription America needs.

Just don't tell him it will ensure there is an Obama landslide election in November if he does.

Agreed
I agree with this analysis. But I would add that what definitively makes this is a losing issue for McCain is that Bush just this week agrees with the principle of a timetable for withdrawal. That is de facto recognition that Obama has the better position going forward.

We can always count on the Counterfeit Cowboy to push the country to the left.

Presidential Dimwit
Being a lifetime republican voter, I have been dismayed at the collapse of the Republican party. The moral, intellectual and political ineffectiveness in both the administration and congress is pathetic - and now we have a candidate who is a classic boob.

I am called upon to vote and support a candidate who simply does not know which end is up. Despite the heroic service McCain has given to his country, I must say that his campaign performance is characterized by silliness and stupidity. He is hardly what I look for in true leadership, and much less that of President.

Whatever Obama lacks by way of experiential judgment, is far overshadowd by McCain's poor judgment in the exercise of his campaign. McCain presents himself as a pathetic dimwit. His campaign attempts at "tit for tat" and "one upsmanship" are as embarrasing as they are dumb. Conversely, Obama has the intellectual and analytical prowess to overcome whatever weaknesses arise from his youth. I wish him well, because he's got the victory in his pocket.

Sorry republicans - count me out, you'll have to do better to get my vote.

Lynn

Get a clue, McCain
There is some good political advice in this article. I hope that McCain can get his act together. BO is a sitting duck on so many issues and all we get are "I told you sos." Read any of Reagan's speeches if you want to speak to a depressed economy.

Obama Is An Idiot on the Middle-East.
Yes, but you ignore the fact that Obama's statements on Iraq and the rest of the Middle-East reveal his lack of experience, his unwillingness to modify a position once adopted, and his inability to create a coherent narrative from his own past positions. Obama is not up to the task of being president and nothing shows this fact more than his statements on the Middle-East. Maybe McCain should stop emphasizing Iraq policy but he should clobber Obama daily for Obama's obvious idiocy regarding the Middle-East.

Answer for Buck
You're still believing the political line for why we got into the war. It is far more complex than Hussein thumbing his nose at us over WMD. He posed a real threat, not only to our financial security (he was trying to knock off the dollar as the worlds reserv currency) but to the war on terror. Had we left him in power he would have worked to undermine our efforts in Afganistan and anywhere else he could reach. Had we left him there and he succeeded he would have the Muslim countries falling in line behind him instead of us.

The reason the oil is important is because first, our allies and the world economy are dependent on it and the price of oil is affected by flow of oil from the middle east. If we suddenly became completely independent for our energy needs tomorrow we would still have an interest in stabilizing the Middle East. Oil makes the crazies wealthy enough to cause havoc on our interests and it's not just about Israel.

These people who are causing trouble because they believe they can take over the world. And why do they think that? Because whe have been so weak in our response to them in the past. For the last six or seven years we responded, for the most part, with strength. All we have left to do is keep Iraq out of the terrorist camp and cut the Iranians down to size and this war will be mostly over.

Re John McCain's Judgment

Jonah Goldberg writes "McCain doesn't need to explain why he'd be a better commander in chief. Voters already acknowledge his superior judgment on foreign policy by huge margins."

"Superior judgment?" For four years John McCain was an outspoken and constant critic of the Iraq War which he characterized as "a terribly mismanaged war."

Yet, in 2007, when Pres. Bush announced the "surge" as a desperate measure to avoid "the consequences of failure," Sen. McCain reflexively bought into the concept without so much as a pause to consider that the Commander-in-Chief who oversaw the "the terribly mismanaged war" in Iraq would still be calling the shots for the surge.

Nor did John McCain question why, if Gen. David Petraeus was thought of so highly, why hadn't Pres. Bush relied on Gen. Petraaeus' leadership years earlier to take command of our forces?

How does John McCain's unwarranted blind faith in the "surge" qualify as "superior judgment"?
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