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Wednesday, May 28, 2008
Jonah Goldberg :: Townhall.com Columnist
Michelle Obama: Fair Game
by Jonah Goldberg
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"Lay off my wife."

So says Barack Obama about his controversial spouse, Michelle.

The Democratic candidate for the presidential nomination tends to dismiss any inconvenient fact as a "distraction" and to label every stinging criticism as "divisive." So even if he didn't have a husband's natural desire to defend his wife, he'd still probably denounce criticism of Michelle as beyond the pale.

Obama's comments came in the wake of a Tennessee GOP ad calling new attention to Michelle Obama's remark in February that she'd never been "really proud" of America until the nation embraced her husband's campaign.

"If they think that they're going to try to make Michelle an issue in this campaign, they should be careful," Obama said last week, "because that I find unacceptable, the notion that you start attacking my wife or my family."

Again, the Illinois senator's desire to protect his wife from criticism shows his heart's in the right place. The question is, where is his head?

If he truly finds it "unacceptable" for people to criticize his wife, he might want to rethink sending her out as his chief campaign surrogate, particularly when she has proved to be such a rich source of copy for journalists and barbs for critics.

And just out of curiosity, what does it mean, exactly, when a candidate finds something "unacceptable"? In a democracy, finding criticism unacceptable is a surefire way to drive yourself bonkers. It's like saying you find it unacceptable that bears use the woods for a bathroom. It's going to happen whether you accept it or not.

But the larger issue is whether Mrs. Obama - or any political spouse - is a legitimate subject for scrutiny and, yes, criticism. Historically, this hasn't been much of a problem because most politicians' wives played it safe. Sure, the crusading Eleanor Roosevelt had her bons mots, and Nancy Reagan had her moments in the spotlight, but most first ladies have stuck to ribbon cuttings, scone recipes and Girl Scout jamborees.

That all changed with Hillary Rodham Clinton. In 1992, she and her husband (now her ex-officio campaign manager) insisted that she wasn't the Tammy Wynette type. When her work as a lawyer came up during his campaign, she snapped, "I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies and had teas."

Bill Clinton, who himself said that electing him would deliver "two for the price of one," put her in charge of his top domestic priority, health-care reform. And though she failed miserably, she certainly wasn't sitting around baking cookies.

After that debacle, Hillary retreated into a more traditional first lady role for a while. Or so we thought. Now we're told that she was really a dynamo behind the scenes. Like that old "Saturday Night Live" skit in which Ronald Reagan was an amiable dunce in front of the cameras but a Patton-like commander in chief behind closed doors, the revisionist history of Hillary Clinton is that she was involved in everything, including dropping into the Balkans under sniper fire to conduct cowboy diplomacy. Or something like that.

It's worth recalling that during the 1992 campaign, Bill Clinton also tried to make any criticism of his wife unacceptable. When rival candidate Jerry Brown accused Bill of funneling money to Hillary's Arkansas law practice, Bill snapped: "You ought to be ashamed of yourself for jumping on my wife. You're not worth being on the same platform as my wife."

If Brown had accused Clinton of funneling money to someone else, say Hillary's colleague Webster Lee Hubbell, the vein-popping outrage wouldn't have worked. There's just something about wives that make husbands go all gallant. Trust me, I know.

But gallantry has to take a backseat when your wife is riding shotgun. Indeed, there might even be something sexist in all of this, somewhere. After all, no one thinks that criticizing Hillary's husband is "unacceptable."

Americans don't know Barack Obama very well. Part of the election process is getting to know the candidates. All politicians are desperate to control that process, but the rest of us aren't on their campaign staff and are under no obligation to follow orders.

Michelle Obama says some fascinating, substantive things. She appears to have a gloomy opinion of America, for instance, a country apparently full of desperate, isolated people whose only hope lies in an Obama presidency.

I, for one, want to hear more from her, and she seems perfectly willing to oblige. But if I don't like what she has to say, I reserve the right to say so, whether her husband finds it acceptable or not.

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M. O.
The things this anti-American woman has said while campaigning for B-HO should be such an embarrassment to him that he would put a muzzle on her and chain her up in the back yard.

An excuse to get her to shut-up?
Perhaps now BO is saying "Honey, you have to stand down now or they will tear you up." Michelle is no help to BO and he knows it. Unlike he, she is easier to read and her mouth does not have a shunt to keep it from saying what she really feels. So she says it and we all read it and he goes down another notch.
Don Jones
MyManJohn.com

grow up Michelle and Barry
Peggy Noonon puts it WAY better than Jonah.

http://online.wsj.com/article/declarations.html

"Sex and the Sissy"

...It is prissy. Mrs. Clinton's supporters are now complaining about the Hillary nutcrackers sold at every airport shop. Boo hoo. If Golda Meir, a woman of not only proclaimed but actual toughness, heard about Golda nutcrackers, she would have bought them by the case and given them away as party favors.

It is sissy. It is blame-gaming, whining, a way of not taking responsibility, of not seeing your flaws and addressing them. You want to say "Girl, butch up, you are playing in the leagues, they get bruised in the leagues, they break each other's bones, they like to hit you low and hear the crack, it's like that for the boys and for the girls."


Anyone know where I can buy those "nut crackers"?!


Maybe Barry and Michelle will just tell our enemies they better not do anything to our country, because if they do it will hurt their feelings. Bloody Hell.

Michelle and Chelsea are fair game
If Michelle wants to get down and dirty, and if Chelsea puts herself out there, neither has room to complain when the attacks start coming. Each must be held accountable for the things they say and open to any questions.

Yes I thought it was rather
stupid to complain about attacks on his wife when he trots her out as a speach maker and advocate.

Hey, if you don't wnt your wife to be shot at, don't paint a bullseye on her and trot her out as a target.

The drive home from church
Senator B.O. says he doesn't share his spiritual advisor's beliefs. But to listen to Mrs. B.O., she certainly does. So I'm wondering, on the ride home from church after a real stemwinder of a sermon, did Senator B.O. get a second helping of pungent rants from his wife?

By the way, what do these people really believe? What do they value? Why do they say X on Friday, Y on Saturday, and then go to a church that teaches Z on Sunday? One should step outside of one's echo chamber from time to time, but it seems that the Obamas live in three echo chambers at the same time. Only people locked in rubber rooms can handle that kind of action.

I finally realized where the Democrats' "nuanced" positions come from: They say X, which is stupid, then qualify it with Y, which is offensive, and then negate it with Z, which is illogical, such that XYZ equals a "nuanced" position, that is, a stupid, offensive, illogical position. Exhibit A: I voted to authorize the President to use military force but not the Iraq War. Exhibit B: I voted for the 87 billion before I voted against it. Exhibit C: Iran poses no threat to America because it's too small, but Iran poses the gravest threat to America nowadays, which is why America should appease Iran, who is led by crazed Mullahs who I want to talk to but who won't talk to me, which is I want to talk to them, etc.

A "Community Organizer" is...
...to leftist politics, what a "Union Organizer" is to the mob. The benign title just doesn't do justice to the actual job being described.

If you strip away the gauzy veneer of highminded purpose that provides cover and justification for their presence in a "community," you will find that a Community Organizer's REAL job is to deal in power mongering and influence peddling.

As Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and countless others could tell you, there is a lot of money sluicing through the communities of the downtrodden, and people like B. Hussein Obama are there to ensure they get their turn at the sluicegate.

Between the political "walking around" money, government grant money, corporate shakedown money, and the plain old busines bribe money, those who want to do business with "The Community" have to go through people like Obama.

Marxist, Racist, Elitist Snobs...
that's exactly what they are, period!

obamas wife.
be carweful what you desire you may get it. obamas wife sounds like a very intelligent, witty, forceful woman and any conservative who take her on had better be careful.,. remamber, no matter how smart that challenger is, he is sitting on a bag of hammer heads.

inaddition ther are one or two litlle tings from Mccain marital past that may be brought up ( and probalbly will reagdless). the use of the C word by Mccain when yelling at his wife. the fact behind Mccain amicable divorce. Mccain children behavior before they entered the service Why did the suddenly decidet ah the service was a good place for them qwhen neither son had expressed an interest before???

Michelle Obama Takes on Death Threats

Obama is well aware...
that he can trot his wife out to stump for him and she, being the educated woman that she is, can articulate to the crowds how wonderful Barack is, how intellegent Barack is, how Barack is for hopechangehopechangehopechange and how Barack will make us a very fine POTUS.
It's only when she departed from talking about her hubby that she opened herself up to criticism. When she said "For the first time in MY life, I am really, really, proud of this country" is when she became fair game. See, she didn't stick with the party line of Barack is hopechangehopechange. Once she started to talk about herself is where she messed up.

But Obama is also well aware that he can seize an opportunity to win sympathy for himself among the black community from the verbal beating they got in the media because of her comments.

And Obama is well aware that he can also play the victim card. Poor Barack, so put upon that the media would actually attack his wife...how dare they??!!! She is merely a wife, not a political candidate, but Obama is okay with trotting her out to the crowds for his own political expediency. Obama plays the victim (poor, poor, put-upon husband who must defend his wife against those sharks in the media who would attack her...innocent lamb that she is).

When he declares that SHE IS OUT OF BOUNDS, it shows him to be a strong husband defending his innocent wife and he is putting his foot down and he expects that will be the end of it all.

Any future comments about Michelle will be met with stern words like: I warned you folks in the media...

and victim language like: She is my wife and the mother of my children, and doesn't deserve to be attacked by you sharks in the press.


Be sure that she has learned her lesson and she will not make this kind of mistake again. From here on out, she will be obedient and follow the party line: Barack is for hopechangehopechangehopechange.


mrbmrb
Huh.

Not sure how to respond to your post.

Let's take a look at what you say.


****"be carweful what you desire you may get it."****

Okay, LOL, I will try to be CARWEFUL. Not sure what carweful means, but I will strive to be thus nonetheless.

****"remamber, no matter how smart that challenger is, he is sitting on a bag of hammer heads."****

Alright, I won't forGAT, but I am not sure what you mean by sitting on a bag of hammerheads. Care to expound upon this some more?

****"inaddition ther are one or two litlle tings"****

What the hell man, did your keyboard just blow up, or do you speak like this in real life?

****"Why did the suddenly decidet ah the service was a good place for them qwhen neither son had expressed an interest before???"****

Wow, you're either drinking, shooting up, or trying to escape from the nice men in white coats who are coming to take you away.

Michelle Obana bears closer scruteny

"I was raised a working class girl on the South Side of Chicago." True, as far as that goes, BUT:

1. She was NOT raised in a one-room tenement, but rather in an apartment in a comfortable house on Euclid Ave.

2. Yes, her Dad worked for Chicago's Department of Water Management -- as an engineer, with a salary of $42,686, so, yes, her family "had four spoons;" also four knives, forks, plates, glasses, cups, saucers, etc.

3. Princeton University has locked away her 1985 sociology thesis until after the November election. Why?

4. She buys toilet paper at Target. Does she wear her $700 a pair Jimmy Choos, or does she change into something a bit more down-market? Ferragamos,at a mere $470 perhaps.

For much more on Michelle Obama and her background see:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-517824/Mrs-O-The- truth-Michelle-Obama's-working-class-credentials.html





Liberals double standard politics
what we are witnessing in this election race is somewhat unique in modern day politics.The liberal media is experiencing a heavy dose of their own medicine.For example,the white liberals like the clintons have enjoyed using the black vote to get into positions of political and journalistic power.But along comes their worst nightmare,a liberal black man is challenging the system once only trod by the whites,and Hillary although liberal and a woman,is white.Now Obamas turn,he says it is unacceptable to critisize his wife,whynot ?Because she is black not just Obamas wife,you all know what i mean,it is the double standard of liberal racism,raising its ugly head,for all of us to see.,what do you think ??

mrmbrb rambles...
"obamas wife sounds like a very intelligent, witty, forceful woman and any conservative who take her on had better be careful."

-Of that I am certain. She seems the type who will haul off and throw a cell phone at her insolent staff.

"inaddition ther are one or two litlle tings from Mccain marital past that may be brought up ( and probalbly will reagdless)."

-And here's the liberal dance: Twist, Bop and Deflect. Let's bring up McCain's wife! The problem with your comparison, is that McCain's wife has done nothing offensive, untoward, or spoke outlandishly to the public.

The difference between her and Michelle, is that Cindy has class...You cannot by class, it's something you are born with.

Michelle shilling for her husband, sticking her foot in her mouth, offending the population, snorting her own boogers loudly during an interview on national TV, only shows what kind of a First Lady she would make. It's like bringing Roseanne Barr to the White House.

So go ahead and whine that McCain is such a mean husband and father, at least conservatives are aware and honest enough to admit our only person running for POTUS is someone we think little of.

However, you liberals are so brainwashed and backwards, you lie to yourselves never being able to admit the faults of your own party. Just do the Liberal Dance! Change the subject and deflect the argument! Maybe no one will notice!


we don't know enough...
...about where either of them "stand". It is like the Carter campaign of '76 (actually '72 through '76) where the only real reason he was elected is that Ford pardoned Nixon and Gerald, like Bush Sr. in '92 didn't really want the office again. But that is just my opinion. I know nothing except that demagogues who dislike criticism and recoil from perceived attacks should probably be attacked ever more strongly to determine what is behind the sugary words that flow like oily balms to soothe rather than inspire thought and REAL debate.

Bush's Daughters
Yep, everyone is fair game- I remember the MSM having a field day about the Bush Twins and their underage drinking. Showed pictures of one of them sticking their tongue out at the press. I often wonder how this HATED President raised 2 daughters that are so human, and probably represented, at the time, threeforths of the general youth. I guess Chelsea was just perfect!!

I am Confused...

Why does Mrs. O'B have a bigger set of twin brass than Mr O'B.


Hmmm.

Is she his 'Driving Force' ?

Is She a Jedi warrior?

Can I smell wimp?

Do I smell "Lust in my heart" jimmie cahtah?

Wimp. Yes, that's it.

Wimp. Yes, that's it.

I'm waiting for the news of his
affairs to show up. These two are "Bill and Hillary" juniors, but the pathetically needy democrat woman are even more overtly fawning over B. H. O. and he seems to think being President means running up on stage under the big lights to hear the cheers, and then tell some tall tales to entertain any given audience.

I wish they would let the poor down trodden M. Obama unleash more too, but the muzzle appears to be latched tight

My two cents
On the one hand, I applaud Obama standing up and protecting his wife. It's what any good husband would do. I know if anyone tries to insult or demean my wife, they will have to go through me first.

However, there's a difference between going after a man's wife and responding to a public statement made by an individual.

I think if a politician is running for office, and the media, or anyone for that matter, goes around the candidate and starts going after the candidate's spouse, then that should be condemned and whoever did it should be publicly denounced for such a reprehensible action.

However, when the candidate's spouse goes out in public and makes public statements, then the rest of us are allowed to respond to those statements, within reason of course. If someone does nothing but insult the spouse, then such should be denounced. Asking for clarification on a statement, or scrutinizing the statement made, or criticizing the statement made, is perfectly acceptable and well within the pale.

I mean, come on, Obama is a spouse as well. Would Michelle be correct in demanding that people quit questioning her husband, because she won't stand for it?

Michelle Obama opened up Pandora's Box
with her comments that seem to suggest America is just a larger version of Bangladesh, where people are scraping and clawing for scraps of food and our only hope in life is for a quick death. Seriously, have you heard this woman's relentlessly negative spin on life in America from 1988 to 2008? I got caught up in it one Saturday morning with a hangover and I start tying myself a noose...kidding.

I have no clue where she got this unremittingly grim view of the greatest country on Earth. At any rate, I'm mystified how she can possibly identify with these apparently filthy masses struggling in this sea of misery....given that she and Barack are millionaires many times over.

Listening to her depresses me. Listening to people call her out on the carpet and lambast her Dickensian view of America and laugh in her angry face...makes me smile.

Fair game.

certel frier u dummi
~~~~
and nother thin cartel fryr. u nut sno smert as yu thin. dumie

he teech me haow tu tipe.

He lern spel chek, an i beg he to teeckh me

mrbumr henerabl man

I lern fro he


Obama is soooooo special
How about Kerrys wife, Heinz, she was fair game and many believe she helped destroy his campaign. Keep it up Michelle, we would love to see you spoil the big MO!

Michelle Obama
As a potential first lady, she is frightening. Is this the best the Democrat party can do? Obviously Michelle Obama hates the American that obviously must have given her a great education as well as a good career and a very nice home. Perhaps it would be better if she left the country she finds so objectionable.

By the way - would somebody tell us how she managed to get such a good education? Did she pay for it - or did we - the taxpayers?

Michelle Obama Fair Game
It seems with Obama nothing is fair game. We can't criticize his wife who has put herself out there to campaign for him~he even threatens us to "be careful"--what the hell does that mean!? We can't talk about him being the first black president;we can't discuss his absent father or his mother or his gaffe about there being 57 states or the worst one of all on Memorial Day that he was honoring those who have fallen in service to our country and he could see them standing in the crowd. Was he holding a seance or was he hallucinating or did he just not know the meaning of Memorial Day. It seems to me that for someone who wants to be president of America there is a lot he doesn't know about America. The first and foremost is Freedom of Speech for which all those brave men and women whom we celebrate on Memorial Day died.He better change his tune or we will be in big trouble if he is (God forbid)elected in November.

Curtal Friar


Curtal Friar
Location: KS

Reply # 13
Date: May 28, 2008 - 8:31 AM EST Subject: mrbmrb
Huh.

~~~
Sir. Please be patient with mrbumbr.

I have beeen working with my friend for several days, and he is already showing great improvement.

His spelling has improved, and his lucidity has also.

This is definitely, a 'Fast-Track' employee.

Please give the man a break. I am sure you will be pleased in the end.



Michelle Obama Fair Game
It seems with Obama nothing is fair game. We can't criticize his wife who has put herself out there to campaign for him~he even threatens us to "be careful"--what the hell does that mean!? We can't talk about him being the first black president;we can't discuss his absent father or his mother or his gaffe about there being 57 states or the worst one of all on Memorial Day that he was honoring those who have fallen in service to our country and he could see them standing in the crowd. Was he holding a seance or was he hallucinating or did he just not know the meaning of Memorial Day.
It seems to me that for someone who wants to be president of America there is a lot he doesn't know about America. The first and foremost is Freedom of Speech for which all those brave men and women whom we celebrate on Memorial Day died.He better change his tune or we will be in big trouble if he is (God forbid)elected in November.
The Lady of Lewes

Whiner
If you put your wife out there on the dais as a campaign representative, then what she says in that capacity is fair game for criticism. If BHO doesn't want that, then he should not use her as a campaign spokeperson. Why aren't they picking on McCain's wife (with the exception of trying to get at her tax returns)? It's simple, she does not speak publicly and therefore provides no fodder for the hounds of the 5th column.

Congrats!


Curtal Friar
Location: KS

Reply # 21
Date: May 28, 2008 - 9:09 AM EST Subject: My two cents
On the one hand, I applaud Obama standing up and protecting his wife. It's what any good husband would do. I know if anyone tries to insult or demean my wife, they will have to go through me first.

However, there's a difference between going after a man's wife and responding to a public statement made by an individual.

I think if a politician is running for office, and the media, or anyone for that matter, goes around the candidate and starts going after the candidate's spouse, then that should be condemned and whoever did it should be publicly denounced for such a reprehensible action.

However, when the candidate's spouse goes out in public and makes public statements, then the rest of us are allowed to respond to those statements, within reason of course. If someone does nothing but insult the spouse, then such should be denounced. Asking for clarification on a statement, or scrutinizing the statement made, or criticizing the statement made, is perfectly acceptable and well within the pale.

I mean, come on, Obama is a spouse as well. Would Michelle be correct in demanding that people quit questioning her husband, because she won't stand for it?
~~~

Sir, I am humbled.
I wish I had your skills of communication.

Please note. I am trying to help mrbumbr to arrive into the this world. He has made progress. I am proud of his improvement.

Please do not smite him!

Your friend,
Rats
(and mice)



I'm sure that
from here on out, we'll hear alot of patriotism and gratitude from Mrs. Obama. What a great country this is. How fortunate they are to be Americans.
Like her husband who's adopting more and bigger American flags as his backdrops (early on there were NONE).
They will spend the next few months moderating and neutralizing their opening statements.
Not buying.

Michelle and Mentor Wright
Michelle and Mentor Wright best explain Obama than the Obama obfuscation machine.

Let them Speak!!

They should have their own reality TV show!


jacy

For at least some information on how Michelle Obama paid for her college education click the link at the bottom of my 8:36 a.m. posting. (Michelle Obama bears closer scruteny)

She's jus' "Gettin' Her 'Freak' On"!
Let Michelle Obama speak her mind.

She will come off, publicly, as the stereotype of the angry black female: "Uppity", bitter and with a sense of entitlement. Hardly what the country wants in a First Lady. She will doom Obama's run to be the first black man in the White House. Sooo many black men can relate to that.

It's an Aristocracy Thing
Obama's finding any criticism of his wife "unacceptable" goes hand in hand with his general disdain for the benighted working classes who "cling to their guns and religion"; this man sees himself and his wife as your betters, and as such, you peons have no right to question or criticize them.

One year ago, I would have bet any amount of money that the Democrats could not find a candidate more ill-suited to running for president than Hillary Clinton. I would have lost that bet. Barack Obama is a walking example of everything that is wrong with liberal elitism, and his wife is just as bad. Hillary is, by comparison, as good as it gets.

Look at this woman's angry face....
This is the face of the perpetual victim, the gangsta black anger. Face is more appropriate on a rap cd than in the White House. The face of the Trinity church. Do we want that "anger" as the face of this nation for the next 4 years?

Malaise
What comes to mind when listening to the Obama's is how the heck did America end up with an illegal immigration problem? You'd think that the reverse would be the case! According to Michelle, we are all so oppressed by capitalism that it is amazing that we are not sneaking across the border to Mexico or swimming to the Cuban paradise ;)

The death of conservatism part 1
Columns like this one and several others today reveal what everybody who is out in the real world already knows - that conservatism is dying. The fact that the only candidate that cons could find this year was the least conservative icon in their stable, and the fact that they are still using terms like "elitist, values, patriotic, defense of family, mainstream, etc., etc., prove that they are devoid of issues anybody really cares about. This fact has been discussed openly by Pat Buchanan, David Brooks, Sean Wilentz, Ed Rollins, William F. Buckley (before he died) and many other. The fact that well-paid columnists like this one can only think up an attack on a candidates wife reveals how bankrupt of ideas and new thinking the cons really are.
These posts also reflect it, they are also mostly written by the over 50 crowd who do not realize their time has passed, resentment and rage are no longer the mood du jour.

The Conservative movement started with genuinley sophisticated and multi-layered books like Kirk's "The Conservative Mind: from Burke to Eliot" (1953) has now devolved into "How to Talk to a Liberal - If you Must".

This is that movement that Goldwater started, Nixon put into power, Reagan popularized, Gingrich radicalised, Tom DeLay criminalized, and Bush allowed to break into pieces.









Not First Lady material
Of course Michelle Obama is "fair game" for comment and criticism. So is any spouse of any public figure. Mr. Obama may find it "unacceptable," but that does not negate our First Amendment rights to free speech. So long as the criticism is focused on Mrs. Obama's public utterances, the criticism is not only fair -- it's inevitable in a democratic republic. This is a simple lesson the Obamas have seemingly not yet learned. It is one more indication how out of touch they are with America's institutions and traditions.

When Michelle declared this to be the first time in her adult life she was proud of her country, it is reasonable to question her patriotism. She repeated this indictment of America in multiple speeches from prepared remarks, so we know it was not a misstatement. It is how she honestly feels. Patriotism is defined as love of country, and people feel pride for the things they love. This middle-aged woman admits she had no pride until now. It follows she does not have a love of country. Her other speeches only reinforce this impression.

Most Americans believe the role of First Lady is to root for -- not against -- America. There are already too many voices bashing America, and the First Lady should not be one of them.

Sistah Michelle's Mouth
Of course Michelle Obama is fair game. Like Hillary Clinton as First Lady, and probably most women in this day and age, Michelle isn't going sit silently on the sideline looking pretty. It's not that I expect her to sit silently or just talk about inocuous things like cookie recipes (she probably hasn't baked cookies in her whole adult life anyway). It's idiotic to expect a candidate's wife (or husband) to play a role that went the way of the dodo. But if a candidate's spouse chooses to publicly exercise his/her right of free speech, then that speech is up for criticism or analysis. Barack, get a grip. Sistah Michelle is an outspoken woman who can probably handle herself in the free for all world of politics. She's no daintyy little buttercup who needs sheltering from her hubby. If her mouth is going get her in trouble, so be it. It's your problem Barry Baby, not ours. We're just exercising our right to free response to free speech. God Bless America.

He can't stop her!
The problem for poor old Barack is, Michelle won't be silenced, at least not for long. I could tell that from the moment she hijacked his victory speech in his Senate race in 2004. She sounded as though she herself had just been elected, rather than her spouse, and was palpably eager to hit the ground running with her agenda. The fishbowl of a national campaign will not be kind to her, or to them.

Sistah Michelle's Mouth
Of course Michelle Obama is fair game. Like Hillary Clinton as First Lady, and probably most women in this day and age, Michelle isn't going sit silently on the sideline looking pretty. It's not that I expect her to sit silently or just talk about inocuous things like cookie recipes (she probably hasn't baked cookies in her whole adult life anyway). It's idiotic to expect a candidate's wife (or husband) to play a role that went the way of the dodo. But if a candidate's spouse chooses to publicly exercise his/her right of free speech, then that speech is up for criticism or analysis. Barack, get a grip. Sistah Michelle is an outspoken woman who can probably handle herself in the free for all world of politics. She's no daintyy little buttercup who needs sheltering from her hubby. If her mouth is going get her in trouble, so be it. It's your problem Barry Baby, not ours. We're just exercising our right to free response to free speech. God Bless America.

Gnu
Trust me, if there were any real ideas or important ideas alive in the conservative movement, you wouldn't be writing long paragraphs about a candidate's wife.

Love the Leader -- or else.
Forty comments so far, and no one has picked on one of my favorite Michelle moments, the one where she warns us about how much change to hope for and how Barack will not allow us to turn back once he is in power: "He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism, that you put down your division, that you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones... Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual..."

And if you don't, you'll be subject to vigorous rounds of "self-criticism" before the party elders in the town square until you do.

Love the Leader with all your heart. Of course, that sounds a little different if you say it in German.


John Konop, (Reply #11) "Michelle Obama

Takes on Death Threats..."

Right! I've had threats and death threats from liberals who infest TH, and I'm not even a public figure!


ratas rotones
you nailed it. It seems b hussein is your typical black. He comes from a home with an absentee daddy and has always been under the guidance of women. Now missus I hate america is pulling his strings.

But give her credit she is at least honest about how she feels about america while her hubby, mr no stones, is busy with his metrosexual/bisexual act to win over the elitists who cry about injustice concerning the black but don't want to associate with any who might actually think about robbing their homes.

With the oblahmas the elitists can sip chablis and sample brie and not feel threatened while telling their friends they know a black person who they feel they can safely invite to their parties.

Bozo & Michelle are two scary people!
"If they think that they're going to try to make Michelle an issue in this campaign, they should be careful, because that I find unacceptable, the notion that you start attacking my wife or my family."

Bozo Hussein Obama is naive, and the only thing worse than being naive is being naive AND arrogant!

And given the FACT (and don't forget it!) that Bozo Hussein is all but a card carrying MARXIST, that "should be careful" is just ONE MORE indication of what he's about.


Oh, and we ALL KNOW where Bozo Hussein's head is, but we can't say it....

The death of conservatism
Conservatives are so bereft of anything positive, anything original, and real ideas of interest or merit that all you have left is attack.

TH is nothing more than a litany pathetic attacks, it's all the the conservative movement consists of any more. If you have anything of interest to say, trust me, you wouldn't be wasting your precious lives writing about a candidates' wife.

The Obamas should get used to the fact..

that politics is a contact sport -- like NHL hockey, only without the good manners and rules.

Anne
"Bozo Hussein Obama is naive, and the only thing worse than being naive is being naive AND arrogant!"

But Anne, you voted for Bush, TWICE!!

Personally, I would say the only thing worse than being stupid is being stupid and arrogant.
Don't take it personally.

mrbmrb writes:







.

disasterbabe's #52
"'Bush is stupid' is the joke that stupid people laugh at." -- Christopher Hitchens


disasterbabe: you're not even WORTH

responding to... Don't waste my time!

Charles Martel: Excellent point!

While I don't always agree with everything Hitchens says, there is no question that he is a brilliant historian and writer...

"'Bush is stupid' is the joke that stupid people laugh at." -- Christopher Hitchens

is obviously far beyond the understanding and comprehension capabilities of little miss disasterbabe...

disasterbabe scribbles:
TH is nothing more than a litany pathetic attacks,

Mostly from pathetic liberals.

Lumberjack writes: "Mostly from pathetic

liberals.

You certainly nailed THAT one!

(Note: All liberals are pathetic! Just that some are more pathetic than others.)

Not difficult to pinpoint exactly when any one of the threads starts to unravel... first liberal post on the thread.

MDoofus Scribbles:
(they met while he was still married) - won't release her tax returns - probably because she's got a LOT to hide

Actually she has released them. Try keeping up on current events. then again that might be difficult for someone like you who suffers from severe deep cranio-rectal insertion.

If you can't stand the heat . . .
I'm all for leaving the wife "off limits." But if she makes any campaign appearance at all, other than just the wife silently at her husband's side, she is fair game.

lumberjack
so cindy makes several millions fron the beer dealership her father owned. The last time I checked selling beer was a legal enterprise under our system of laws.

I guess the trolls are jealous she not only makes moiney but does it legally. She also runs a foundation. How many from the left can say that.

The left made noise about the amount of money the clintons donated but it was to their own foundation and probably was nothing more than a way to launder money from questionable sources

Perhaps the trolls can alert all to the good works that b hussein and missus hater are supporting, other than the church of their mentor/master wright

Anne
(Note: All liberals are pathetic! Just that some are more pathetic than others.)

Since you think liberals are so pathetic, maybe you can tell me just one really positive vision for America that has come from conservative thinkers. I mean an idea that wasn't thought up 35 years ago and doesn't get recycled daily on a blog like this one that is made up of old retired people and lonely housewives.

for the record
The largest group of first-time voters this year will be people who weren't even born in the sixties, they don't care about your issues, they're tired of them, many of them are now irrelevant.

I have often mentioned the fact that my conservative friends dismiss TH and don't post on it - this is essentially why, they see it as a dying vangaard of retired people and lonely housewives who don't have any real ideas and are still frantically looking for something to be mad about.

Conservatives should figure out the difference between a new idea of substance and just another whine.

MDoofus Scribbles:
Lumberjerk says:
"Actually she has released them. Try keeping up on current events."

maybe YOu should try - she released PARTIAL information.
We want the WHOLE truth - just WHAT is she hiding. We already know she's a pill popping junkie home wrecking criminal...

but trust her anyway...

Better her than an America hating, whiny, Ivy League educated, rich, jackleg lawyer b!tch.

Conservatives and Vision
The vision of Conservatives is that America will finally grow to and follow the Constitution and Bill of Rights of our founders.

Liberals say the Constitution should be changed to match modern times - Conservatives say that modern times should adhere to the Costitution.

Every President has made this oath:
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Has Anyone Else
Been trying to figure out what "mrbmrb" might stand for as a name?
After his rambling reply (#10) I find myself wondering if he was having similar difficulties when he set up his TH profile.


W/O=

Military Oath
"I,(name of oath giver) do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
================================================

The Constitution of the United States is what Liberals want to change to thir liking and policies.

The President and all military are sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution.

Even against Liberals!!

Disasterbabe, now which
one are you? Old and retired or a lonely housewife, posting answers #64 and #65 during the time that all the young working people are supposed to have their noses to the grindstone at work.

As far as looking for something to be angry about, the liberals are a fertile field. We need look no further.

Tell B. Hussein and the lovely wife about the 60's being irrelevant. They seem to have their heads stuck back there or stuck somewhere.

I Am Sans Pareil writes
Has Anyone Else
Been trying to figure out what "mrbmrb" might stand for as a name?
After his rambling reply (#10) I find myself wondering if he was having similar difficulties when he set up his TH profile.

I don't know, but I find it embarassing, since MRB are my initials.

ex-wyomingite
Funny

The babe
I wonder if she is down with being a serf in the New World Order.

The wonder boy has some great plans for us.

Charles Martel has some insight.

Barry and Michelle
Both need to butch up.

Michelle Obama
The Tennessee GOP's entire attack on BO's wife consisted of video of her saying she's never been proud of her country.

I guess in the new liberal world order, replaying someone's own words consitutes an attack.

Fair Game?
Mrs Bro-bama is surely that and much, much more!
She is the 'red herring' & the 'human shield' her husband needs to keep the REAL ISSUES from coming up too often.

For every minute spent by the MSM on the Never Been Proud of America Mrs it is one less minute we have to scrutinize Barry...and THAT is exactly the game plan!
In the end Barry & his MSM Cheerleaders will remind us over & over again that it is The Messiah who is running for president, not the Mrs.Messiah.

But I truly wonder if that is the real deal. With all the parallels between Bro-bama & Carter being written these days I can't help but think as I did (and do to this day) that like the Carter Presidency, the wife will be the one running the show!

Face it, Barry has shown no backbone whatsoever in his entire political career & she obviously wears the trousers in that family. BUT even the possibility that this would turn out to be another Co-presidency makes her "fair game" in my book.

The Libs, by allowing THE Mrs Bro-bama to get out front and center, to suffer the slings & arrows that go along with opening her yap, believe it gives them license to go after Mrs McCain (remember Mary Cheney?) even though John McCain & Cindy would give us a more traditional President and First Lady...NOT a co-presidency to be sure.

So forget about the Looney-Left leaving Cindy McCain out of the brawl (evidence is already plain to see on this thread). Libs will toss excrement at anyone & anything they feel is in the way of their fulfilling their agenda, no matter the issue. Remember the "painting" of the Virgin Mother done with elephant dung?

NOW you're getting the picture. Civility doesn't exist in the Liberal Ranks & nothing is sacred.

So even though The Mrs Messiah IS fair game, don't expect a fair game from her "friends". Some of them have been known to use REAL BOMBS when trying to get their way!


W/O=

disasterbabe Re: your # 64

How about "Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!" I seem to recall that this elicited a collective fit of fantods from the MSM.

Now why dont you go off and play with your like-minded little chums on Puffington Host -- you can all enjoy a nice kvetch about those awful, pesky, mean-spirited, nasty OLD conservatives.

disasterbabe
If you want a vision for America, try the constitution. I know liberals view it with the same contempt as they do the Bible or any other morally, economically, or politically sound documents, but you should check it out...

Just as we suspected, disasterbaby

can neither read nor comprehend...

Already TOLD her that she was not worth responding to... and don't waste my time...

And what does the idiot do... post TO ME again.

Truly, a simpleton!

Oh, sorry... we ALL KNEW THAT, didn't we?

disasterbabe

After reading the posts on this and other threads, it is very obvious that YOU, MDoggg, and others of your ilk are the ones who are whiney and "frantically looking for something to be mad about."

Anne
However do you manage to support that giant brain of yours all day long?

Gee, Gretchen
I'm not whining about anything. I'm happy to see the conservative movement implode under it's own negative, resentful list of grievances
and tired rhetoric that you can only recite to each other.

Conservative Columnist and editor
David Brooks said recently that "conservative think tanks and ideas have become sclerotic".

Just like the people who hold those non-ideas, I would wager.

disasterbabe

Not whining? You sure could have fooled me, but then, again, I wonder if you even KNOW how whiney you sound!

Also, the shadenfreude you express at the beginning of reply #83 certainly sounds negative and resentful to me.

BTW a "future" is actually a
contract to buy a commodity.

the left and b hussein
the trolls know they are supporting an inexperienced and very flawed candidate. They suffer from the delusion that he represents something new in politics.

But in b hussein we have the same old liberal snake oil salesman with the same pledges of loyalties to the teachers, the unions and the trial lawyers.

But b hussein is promising much more. He wants america subservient to the UN which is nothing more than a club of third world dictators all dancing to the tune played by the oil sheiks who have used their oil wealth to purchase the allegiance of all those countries with no way to generate incomes.

B Hussein not only promises to fully fund the UN but he wants to tax every american $7,000. to eradicate world poverty under the guidance of the UN. This is the same corrupt outfit that pocketed billions while allowing saddam to waste money on his personal projects and palaces while he starved his own people.

But b hussein is not done with more taxes to fund pie in the sky UN notions he also plans more taxes on the workers to fully fund his expansive ideas about increased entitlements and set asides for minorities which has always been the way the blacks stay loyal to the dim party. They purchase their loyalty but do nothing to move blacks off the dims palntation of entitlement.

The truth is b husein has no plans for anything other than getting himself elected. He thinks that he can control the debate by letting his leading spokesamdn spew her dislike of america but no one is to critisize her for what she says.

But b hussein will find that running as both the black and the victim candidate won't play with the voters. He lacks any comprehensive plans and is nothing more than the last chance for all the 60's leftists to gain power and influence;

It's too bad in his lame search to find his black identity by joining the afrocentric church run by the hater wright he couldn't find the time to learn about america.


Michelle & Barry
Can any of you visualize this couple representing this country to the rest of the world.She needs a quick course in anger-management and he needs a history lesson.A lie detector would be good,too.I have detected many lies.

Oh,and Disaster,are you HalD or Robert in drag?

HILLARY CLINTON
BILL WAS CORRECT WHEN HE SAID WITH HILLARY WE COULD HAVE TWO FOR THE PRICE OF ONE.....OUR ECONOMY WHEN HE WAS IN OFFICE WAS GREAT!!!!!

THEY HAVE THE KNOW HOW TO PUT THIS ECONOMY BACK ON TRACK AND I THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WOULD BE STUPID TO LET THEM GET AWAY...WE NEED THEM MORE THAN THEY NEED US....

AND OBMAMA WIFE IS FARE PLAY; THEY DID NOT CARE HOW THEY TREATED HILLARY...SO TURN AROUND IS FARE PLAY...

b hussein's angry wife
perhaps b hussein can fully explain why his wife with two college degrees, a house worth many huindreds of thousands of dollars and millions in the bank is angry at america.

The dream of most americans is a nice home, adequate cash to enjoy the pleasures of life but for reasons no one can explain she voices her disgust with america.

As for her lame claim that she worked for a hospital rather than some big law firm it would seem her attitude was her biggest enemy. But a salary of some $340,000 doesn't exactly sound like someone who was making any sacrifices to help the less fortunate.

Perhaps missus b hussein can explain her devotion to wright and his afrocentric preaching that advocated never trusting white people or the belief in a god that favored blacks and a god who must despise whites. That seems a very odd and hateful doctrine to believe in

But this is the same hater that wrote at princeton she is black first and an american after that. And now she wants to be first lady. At what point did being an american come to have importance and if she can't take pride in america and it's people why would american's want her as first lady

talking point
Everyone knows Obama is young and not as experienced as one would hope to have in a president. I don't understand why so many right wingers think liberals consider him perfect. As a matter of fact a large number of Hillary's dems say they won't vote him at all, if H loses bid. Also, why do you emphasis his middle name so much? Do you think he's a muslim? His first name is found all over the place in the Old Testament. No wonder most Israelis say the favor Obama over McCain.


MOST JEWISH VOTERS WANT BARACK OBAMA TO WIN

61% of Jewish voters prefer Obama 32% prefer McCain

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/ Sat...d=1209627043154


NO DECLINE IN THE % OF JEWISH VOTERS WHO FAVOR BARACK OBAMA

http://www.gallup.com/poll/10705...ish- Voters.aspx

Robert
Great pots and I couldn't agree more. Mrs. Obama isn't perfect, no one is, but do we really want to start in on candidate's wives? We should have more pride than that.

Robert
I'm still waiting to see that article you claim to have written.

taft
obviously it has failed to penetrate that lump that sits on your shoulders that missus hatred is an active part of the campaign. If b hussein wants to keep he wife out of the discussion than she needs to keep her mouth shut.

But as for b hussein it is telling that he claims we have 57 states and that he still has one to visit, alask and hawaii. That isn't the statement of someone who is tired but someone who lacks a clue.

Perhaps in the lib world this inexperienced and unprepared candidate is your idea of what we need in a president but are you ready for huge tax increases to fund his vision of how the world should be under leftist/liberal guidance.

Being inexperienced is one thing being totally naive is something altogether worst. The world is a far more dangerous place and he wants to placve more reliance on the corrupt and wasteful and hateful UN. But perhaps those of you on the left can point out any siccesses the UN has had lately. Other than giving various dictators cover they are totally useless. If they can't save zimbabwe from mugabe how are they going to sovle far worse problems;

There is a coming war between the sunnis and shia for control of the muslim world. Are you that stupid to think the UN will find a way to resolve that. The UN is standing by while hezbollah takes over lebanon why would you think they will find success anywhere

talking point
As you may have noticed, I'm trying to lay off the personal attacks but would rather debate as befits a proper Christian based blog. I don't see how you jump so easily to the conclusion the she "hates" America. As for the 57 states and lack of intellectual verisimilitude, we could judge that on the dozens of debates in which he did very well. The sunnis and shia very likely will have an all out war, and could drag in a lot of the Muslim world. I heard one well reasoned ME expert say yesterday that that is why Iran is so interested in a stable Maliki government. They are not interested in being pulled into that quagmire. It is also why recently Zawahiri was stomping for Bush and his attack on Iran. I don't know as much on the UN as to make any comment worth while but didn't they, at least in the recent past, Korea, have success?


Robert,
I respect your opinion on Obama, and especially your honesty. Thanks

Robert violates the UCMJ again...

Reply # 92

"No one has hurt The Republic more then Mr. Bush and his administration has."

Absolutely NO military officer would ever jeprodize his/her career (much less a pension) by violating the UCMJ!!!

So, there ya go... "Robert" is clearly IMPERSONATING an officer!!!

Does "Leavenworth" ring a bell???

Robert
"if I did that then people much like you would start saying "he is violating the UCMJ" and this time they would be accurate."

That's what I thought you'd say. I don't think you have much business calling ANYONE a liar.

By the way, didn't the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs recently issue an order that military personnel refrain from commenting on political issues? Why are you disobeying a direct order from the Pentagon, Mr. Navy Captain?


Taft
You said to Robert: "I respect your opinion on Obama, and especially your honesty."

I mean no disrespect to you, but I've read plenty of Robert's posts. Believe me, his name and "honesty" do not belong in the same sentence.

Disasterbabe is confused
What your witnessing is not the demise of conservative thought. We are watching the Republican party morph into the Democratic v3.0 party.

That is the latest plot twist in the grand illusion that politics has become. Our "representatives" work very hard at maintaining the illusion that a two party system still exists.

Consider the fact that every Senator and Representative currently serving are multi-millionaires. Most of them were not that rich when they entered Washington D.C.

Disasterbabe if you think the Democrats care about anything other than lining their pockets and growing their power over you, me and everyone else, just like the Republicans, you have not been paying attention to reality.

Everyone needs to stop thinking in "liberal" vs. "conservative" and/or Democrats vs. Republicans terms and start thinking in "is this person/idea good for the health, economy, sovereignity, etc. of America? terms.

Remember "United We Stand. Divided We Fall." And they have become very good at dividing us. Why else would they cram these three stooges (Clinton, McCain, Obama) down our throats? Liberal vs. conservative vs. women vs. men vs. blacks vs. whites vs. rich vs. middle class vs. poor vs. illegal immigrants etc.

Ken: Excellent points!!!!

What "Robert" can't seem to comprehend is that a serving military officer is REQUIRED by his office to REFRAIN from making public "VALUE JUDGMENTS" on the trend of policy, as established by the CIVILIAN LEADERSHIP.

And, the UCMJ specifically says, "... making public value judgments......." period, end of issue!!!!

Except for wobbie's "later/latter" posts, probably 99% of his posts fit into that category of the UCMJ?


As far as "Robert's" honesty... Any poster who actually thinks for one split second that "Robert" is being "honest" is just as delusional as "Robert."

ex-wyomingite
i have advised several that wasting time picking fights with robert is a total waste of time. As he brings nothing to the discussion why give him any attention

There are more pressing issues and he is not one of them. He occaisionally comments on things I post but I have chosen to ignore him

ex-Wyoningite: Well, apparently you've

MISSED the countless times that "Robert" has IDENTIFIED HIMSELF as a Navy Capt.

Now, by virtue of one identifying oneself as a Navy officer, either that individual "IS AN OFFICER" or is "IMPERSONATING AN OFFICER."

And please allow me to tell you that "IMPRSONATING" an officer is a very, very serious offense.

IF "Robert" is an officer, then by criticizing the current admin., then he is in DIRECT VIOLATION of the UCMJ, since this is a public forum!

Hope that clears it up for you...

One more thing that might be of interest to you; "Robert" has also claimed to be (among other things) an "anchor baby", a civilian commercial capt., a "test pilot" and FAA examiner, etc., etc., etc., the list goes on and on and on.

And just an added little note, "Robert" doesn't have the basic grasp of English grammar and punctuation of a 3rd grader, and NO OFFICER would ever write or post anything as poorly written as "Robert" always does!

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ex-Wyomingite: The POINT!
.

wobbie translations...
THIS IS HOT ! Wobbie HATES IT!


wobbie translations...

For your edification, I have translated a few of wobbie's more common phrases.

Before you skip on, let me give you a few of MY qualifications.

I was the main military decoder during WWI, WWII, Korea, and Viet Nam.
Sherlock Holmes and I discussed this just last night and ^(*^%&%#@@

OH NO ! OH NO ! I am doomed! I spent too much time in wobbie's head !!
Save Me, save me....

~~~

Not 'Naval' Captain, he meant 'Navel' Captain.

'later/latter' = Off to Wiki, to copy-paste several articles of 'smart-stuff'

'Night rounds' = i heard a mouse squeek and so, upstairs to mommy

'New Girl Friend' = mommy found inflatable doll at garage sale (slightly used)

'Went Flying' = my cousin told me to sniff 'this' and you can fly

'My Net Friend' = That nice Hul Donkypoo who keeps asking me for a date

'Smart People' = Hul Donkypoo, Daft, Butte, Peachbus, Athie Provo, Kinky L, Mydoggy,

'Code Pink' = My favorite people, and pink my favorite color (see my panties)

'Best President' = Bill C. ( That Monica makes me sooo jealous. )

'Best Game' = When Hul and I pretend to be each other. LMAO

'Off for lunch' = Check navel for leftovers. I'm Captain of my navel.

'Bedtime' = "Hi, Hul, come on in. Let's play 'Bite The Pillow'."

' 4F ' = Turns me on. "Hul, let me smell that again."




ex-Wyomingite: See Ratas Reply #116
.

disasterbabe


disasterbabe
Location: WA

Reply # 263
Date: May 27, 2008 - 10:06 PM EST Subject: Oh, I forgot
I would really like to respond to your age guess, you're not that far off, but I really like to keep my identity as vague as possible.

How did a Minnesotan like you end up conservative?

~~~

Actually, there are more than a few Minnesotan conservatives on TH, and of course, a few that are not. Pretty much like many other States.

Some of them are quite entertaining, such as one who may be your soul-mate, one mrbmrb.

Please engage mrbmrb in dialogue, when you next see his 'Nom de Plume'.
I am sure you will be enlightened.

Rats
(and mice)

Greetings, Anne

Hello, Anne !

You are a sound voice in the wilderness!

Cheers!

Would that all Virginians were as you, and the Founders!

I Know, dream on. :)

ratas
checkout jackpine
savages blog. Listed under michigan. Listed under fun d mental. Might have some interest for you at his chat room

Rats and Mice
You are a riot and I never miss your posts.As I said on another post,I think Disasterbabe may be Robert in drag.Or a revived Lilly.

Anne, Dear...
Thanks for the kudos.

I posted the same post on several columns early. By 10:00, all were gone.

'wobbie post' hit home? I hope so.

By the way, both my wife and I are a few years older than the age you indicated in an earlier post, but we seem to be all of the same generation.

You know, back when America was best!

When America was the saviour. When Americans did not hate America.

But, as you surely recall, the beginning signs were there.

The Media had already taken over.


I'm late, but
Michelle needs to lay off of the public if Barack wants her left alone. It is that simple.

mrbmrb
"obamas wife sounds like a very intelligent, witty, forceful woman and any conservative who take her on had better be careful.,."

I used to live around many Michelle's. They get loud, even louder in numbers, in your face, but run like the wind when actually hit.
Intelligent?-than what was she doing in Trinity for 20+ years? She only qualified for college via AA.
Witty?-you must not have read her thesis.
Forceful?-nah, most people identify such behavior as rudeness and obnoxiousness.

Michelle would make an embarrassing first lady.

karufe
the libs are so enchanted with b hussein they can't see the forest for the trees. But other than being the candidate of the dems status quo what is this empty campaign of hope and change.

In america we celebrate success but with missus b hussein she maintains an anger inspite of spacious digs, millions in the bank and a lifestyle most can only dream of.

But as for being intelligent that is still open to debate. Street smarts may be one thing and being glib around her peers is evident but there also seems to be feelings of inferiority that she tries to overcome with agressive attitude.

But I and others want people in the white house who knowing our country is far from perfect can still be proud of who we are and what we have done for others. It seems both obama's lack pride in america

Rowly
Thank You. I try to succeed.

My posts were wiped out on 7 columns, earlier today.

Maybe 'wobbie' thought I hit below the belt, by telling the truth.

~~~

Rowly
Location: GA

Reply # 121
Date: May 28, 2008 - 9:03 PM EST Subject: Rats and Mice
You are a riot and I never miss your posts.As I said on another post,I think Disasterbabe may be Robert in drag.Or a revived Lilly.

Karufe
At some of the craft shows,there are carved posters,some with black ladies with their bandanas.The sign reads,"If mama ain't happy...ain't nobody happy"!! Reminds me of the angry Michelle.

Ratas: mrbmrb's basic point is....

$#%$T#$%*Y$%$)(A#$*&^A}OWtyA#%R(@Y$%@)@&$(^@#%}=

And, that out sums up everything he's tried to say!

And, thank you... but VA is not my home state... I've had a few death threats myself here on TH, so I try not to let too much information out about my where abouts.

I Think, Very Close...
Agree!
But not wobbie. Definitely 'Dear Lilly'.

What a tool. Where are their brains?

I know the answer to that question.

I had an unpleasant experience with a proctologist. He said, "Wow! Hello Lilly, I did not expect you!"


Does this describe Lilly and dis-a-blab ?






Rowly
Location: GA

Reply # 121
Date: May 28, 2008 - 9:03 PM EST Subject: Rats and Mice
You are a riot and I never miss your posts.As I said on another post,I think Disasterbabe may be Robert in drag.Or a revived Lilly.

Anne...
Location: VA

Reply # 128
Date: May 28, 2008 - 9:48 PM EST Ratas: mrbmrb's basic point is....

$#%$T#$%*Y$%$)(A#$*&^A}OWtyA#%R(@Y$%@)@&$(^@#%}=

And, that out sums up everything he's tried to say!

And, thank you... but VA is not my home state... I've had a few death threats myself here on TH, so I try not to let too much information out about my where abouts.

~~~

Hey, I am astonished that folks, would issue 'death threats'! WTH is wrong with those idiots?

I would happily thump the heads of many of the idiots for their stupidity, BUT death threats?

Way, beyond the pale!

mrbmrd
Why bring up McCain's wife? But okay, if you really want to talk about her.....

Cindy McCain graduated from Southern Cal and was a special-needs teacher. After her Dad died she became involved with his beer distributing firm and is now the chairwoman. Sales have DOUBLED since she has taken over.

She has a marriage prenuptial agreement, her assets remain separate. She is involved around the world clearing land mines - travels to these countries on a detonation team and serves on their board.

She has a 19 year old serving in Iraq, another son in the Naval Academy, a daughter recently graduated from Columbia Univ., an adopted daughter in high school, and a son who is the finance guy at the beer firm.

Raised kids in Phoenix, Az rather than Washington DC. John commuted. In 1991, Cindy came across a girl in an orphanage in Bangladesh. Mother Teresa asked Cindy to take the baby with a severe cleft palate. She did without telling her husband. The McCain's adopted the girl and paid for a dozen operations to repair her cleft palate and other medical problems.

They have a Family Foundation for children's causes. She's active with "Halo Trust" - to clear land mines, provide water and food in war ravaged and developing countries.

She joined an overseas mission of "Operation Smile", a charity for corrective surgery on children's faces. She has had two back surgeries and became addicted to pain killers. She talks openly about it which she says is part of the recovery process.

The media is quiet about her attributes, but then, so is she. She's no braggart. Cindy is a person with successful business and genuine international experience. Compare that to Mrs. Obama.


wobbie, i luv yu...
THIS IS HOT ! Wobbie HATES IT!


wobbie translations...

For your edification, I have translated a few of wobbie's more common phrases.

Before you skip on, let me give you a few of MY qualifications.

I was the main military decoder during WWI, WWII, Korea, and Viet Nam.
Sherlock Holmes and I discussed this just last night and ^(*^%&%#@@

OH NO ! OH NO ! I am doomed! I spent too much time in wobbie's head !!
Save Me, save me....

~~~

Not 'Naval' Captain, he meant 'Navel' Captain.

'later/latter' = Off to Wiki, to copy-paste several articles of 'smart-stuff'

'Night rounds' = i heard a mouse squeek and so, upstairs to mommy

'New Girl Friend' = mommy found inflatable doll at garage sale (slightly used)

'Went Flying' = my cousin told me to sniff 'this' and you can fly

'My Net Friend' = That nice Hul Donkypoo who keeps asking me for a date

'Smart People' = Hul Donkypoo, Daft, Butte, Peachbus, Athie Provo, Kinky L, Mydoggy,

'Code Pink' = My favorite people, and pink my favorite color (see my panties)

'Best President' = Bill C. ( That Monica makes me sooo jealous. )

'Best Game' = When Hul and I pretend to be each other. LMAO

'Off for lunch' = Check navel for leftovers. I'm Captain of my navel.

'Bedtime' = "Hi, Hul, come on in. Let's play 'Bite The Pillow'."

' 4F ' = Turns me on. "Hul, let me smell that again."




wobbie, my fren..
Hey. Guy, For a long time, I thought you were an idiot.

I did not realize that you were an accomplished satirist.

Apparently I was mistaken. Please accept my apology.

You do confuse me however, in that you move from Texas, to Hawaii, to Virginia, to Pennsylvania, and then to Indiana. Sometimes within minutes. How do you do that?

You do, still confuse me, in that, sometimes, you almost make sense, and other times, you write like an idiot.

Please tell me, are you one of a 'Team', hired to refute Conservative idealism?

My name is Rats and Mice. What is your real name?

Robert surprised to see you here
Isn't this fleet week?

Figured you would be showing off your new 'Wonder Woman' stainproof costume and kneepads.


Ratas: Wobbie knows he's busted...
We've seen this before...in one way shape or form. He is NOT a happy camper just now! :-)

But before we unravel anything else, let's talk about the 14th Amend. shall we?

In FACT, the 14th Amendment was designed to grant citizenship to and protect the civil liberties of recently freed slaves. It did this by prohibiting states from denying or abridging the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States, depriving any person of his life, liberty, or property without due process of law, or denying to any person within their jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Not exactly what wobbie would "like us" to believe... obviously.

And another little aside, any officer would be familiar enough with the Constitution and the Amendments, that he or she would KNOW THIS! But wobbie didn't seem to.



Robert someone said
Robert someone said your last girlfriend was an atheistic white/black pygmy from Africa who was born in America and is a transgender crack addict who works part time as a lapdancer when not leading gay parades in San Francisco or aborting babies and is teaching sex education, religion, ethics and morality at the government high school.

Robert is that true? I certainly would never spread rumors without asking you first.

Robert someone said
Robert someone said tha Larry Craig is mentoring you both mentally and physically to help get legislation passed on legalized 'toe tapping'.

Robert is that true?

I would never limit your self-determination or want to see your individual rights threatened keeping you from becoming all that you could be.

Good luck and best wishes to you and your partnership with Senator Craig!!!!!

Robert question?
What is a Commander Constitution?

Someone said you were supposed to take one red pill and two yellow to keep from going psychotic - did you get them reversed?

Bypass your Wal-Mart AeroPlane lessons and call 911 or turn yourself in at the nearest psycho ward immediately!


Sorry "Robert!" That's from the LLI
Legal Information Institute, Cornell Univ Law School.

Anne gets an A+ :-)

wobbie gets an F- :-(

Another CLEAR indication that

wobbie is NOT any officer...

No US Military officer would ever be so arrogant while so ignorant.... :-)

Shall we go on?

Wobbie... You KNOW you have NO CLUE

what you're talking about and you know you've been out-smarted AGAIN!

And yes, YET ANOTHER clear indication that you are NOT an officer... You're far too stupid!

One of the many indications that you've backed your stupid little self into the corner is that you get all nasty and snotty.... (F minus for you.. yaddah, yaddah, yaddah...)

As I said to Ratas above... we've seen it all before in one way, shape or form! Very predictable!!!

Keep it up, you twit... so more and more people have a chance to see just stupid and simple you really are.

And, IF you're really lucky, your posts WILL BE PULLED again first thing tomorrow morning, so not everyone will AGAIN, see the fraud wobbie in action.


Obama's faux chivalry
"If they think that they're going to try to make Michelle an issue in this campaign, they should be careful," Obama said last week, "because that I find unacceptable, the notion that you start attacking my wife or my family."

Obama's faux chivalry is misplaced. The "attacks" on his wife are not attacks at all. Michelle is the one attacking, and her target is America, a Very Bad Place. When people challenge or (gasp!) criticize Michelle's harsh and distorted view of America, they are not attacking Michelle as much as they are defending America against unwarranted vilification.

What is really unacceptable to Obama is the idea that there are still people who are willing to stand up for America when trash-talkers like Michelle attack it.

By the way, everyone should read Hugh Hewitt's recent piece if they want to understand how the Obamas see America.
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/HughHewitt/2008/05/08/th e_michelle_factor_forget_jeremiah_wright__what_does_michell e_obama_think_about_america?page=full&comments=true#comment s

Wobbie has no clue about history..

that all military offers know... Heck, most 6th graders... at least the ones who are HOME SCHOOLED know it... :-)

Keep it up, wobbie... we're all loving every word! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Amend. XIV, Sect. 4, Clause 2
After someone else takes the trouble to post the entire text of the 14th Amendment, you would think that the insistence that it does not anywhere include the word "slave" would end and that the person making that claim would run home with his tail between his legs, but no.

"Captain" Robert, before you type another word on the subject, read the blessed thing, with special attention to Section 4 Clause 2 -- you know, the part about the invalidity of "any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave".

I don't care how this started, but by keeping it going, you are wearing a big bright purple sign that says "idiot". While accurate, I can't imagine how that would be desirable.


IMO
Too much time, too many posts spent on talking about, disputing, and arguing with an (!)


W/O=

Mrs. Obama
has simply adopted a technique she learned from her pastor, which worked very effectively for him: tell people how bad they've got it, tell them what victims we all are, point out the oppression. It makes you appear to be a savior. Neither Barack or Michelle had a clue that that message does not resonate with the American people. Beaing bright people, they will both back off of that message, and start saying what great and proud Americans they are.

talking point

Michelle O actually *DID* work for "some large law firm" before she went to work for the hospital.

After graduating from Harvard she went to work for the prominent Chicago law firm Sidley Austin, where she specialized in trademark and copyright law.

goldberg
You seem to actually make sense in this column. Congratulations. Thanks for finally taking my advice and laying off the baseless, ad hominem attacks on the democrats. Now why don't you do a little expose on McCain's senility and obvious unfitness for the White House?

not going to tell you

If you are still reading this thread --

Several weeks ago, in response to one of my posts, you asked me: "What is wrong with Obama?" I was away from the computer for several days, and by the time I read your question it was far too late to reply; this is the first time since then that I have seen your "nom de blog," so I will take this opportunity to reply.

In order to give an informed reply to your question, I have read "Barak Obama in His Own Words" and am crrrently making my was through "The Audasity of Hope."

However, in the interim, Sen. Obama has presented a far better reply, (several, in fact) than I ever could hope to.

Gretchen
You are calling the recent revelation with respect to his church a 'reply"?

I'm sorry I bothered to respond to your comment.

Don't you know propaganda when you see it? You call yourself an American? A gullible American, maybe.

Not going...

OK, Bub, you ASKED for it! I WAS trying to be civil, but obviously civility is totally LOST on you!

I COULD have said, "Instead if what is wrong with Obama, perhaps the question should be 'What is WRIGHT with him?'" In point of fact, I was referring to his denigration of the Pennsylvania voters, those he obviously regards as lumpen prolitariat, for what he deems their bitterness in which they turn to guns and God, instead of to him.

Then Sirrah, you cast aspersions on my patriotism! Why do you find it un-American and delusional that I not think Sen. Obama is the alpha and omega, the anounted one, the bees knees, the cat's pajamas?

I feel fairly certain that you do not hold Sen. McCain in very high esteem. That is your prerogative, and I find it anything BUT un-American! One of the things that makes this country great is that people can disagree, or at least agree to differ, without having their patriotisn, morals, or sanity called into question.
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