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Friday, May 23, 2008
Jonah Goldberg :: Townhall.com Columnist
McCain's Running Mate? Why Not a Democrat?
by Jonah Goldberg
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John McCain needs to pick a running mate. He has a tough decision to make.

A very old presidential candidate in a party that has lost the confidence of the American people, McCain will likely face a young, charismatic black guy who promises to "turn the page" away from the Clinton-Bush era, toward a new era of bipartisanship and unity. Meanwhile, the base of McCain's party has serious and legitimate misgivings about him.

Those misgivings have prompted some on the right, including my National Review colleagues Ramesh Ponnuru and Kate O'Beirne, to argue that McCain should offer a one-term-and-out pledge. This not only would defuse the age issue but would telegraph in concrete terms that McCain really is a different kind of politician (while Obama only pretends to be). "The public, never fond of Washington politicians as a class, is especially sick of them these days," writes Ponnuru. "It longs for leaders who are above the poisonous partisanship they see on TV. A one-term pledge would remind people that McCain has been such a leader."

But at the same time, conservatives like Ponnuru argue that McCain needs to pick a running mate who will reassure conservatives. Indeed, National Review has editorialized that delegates to the GOP convention should revolt if McCain picks a pro-choice or otherwise squishy veep candidate. "In picking a running mate Senator McCain will also be conferring front-runner status on a candidate for his party's future nomination. A selection that reassures wary conservatives will help to enthuse his supporters for the tough race he faces," opined my colleagues.

This makes consummate sense - if McCain picks a Republican. But by picking a staunch-conservative Republican, McCain would undercut his standing with the independents and swing voters he needs to win. If he picks a squishy Republican, many conservative voters will stay home in disgust.

But what if he picks a Democrat? Specifically, what if he picks a Democrat while pledging one term and out?

As the parties have become less coalitional and more ideological, the No. 2 slot on the presidential ticket is increasingly seen as an opportunity for national marketing rather than regional deal-making. Bill Clinton picked Al Gore not to win a specific state or constituency, but to shore up Clinton's image as a youthful, moderate reformer. George W. Bush selected Dick Cheney for any number of reasons (though, contrary to rumor, none of them have to do with Cheney making Bush an offer he couldn't refuse on a hunting trip), but capturing Wyoming's three electoral votes wasn't one of them.

With the exception of Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (and possibly Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin), it's difficult to see how any of the advertised picks for the veep slot help McCain sell himself as a different kind of Republican. And, at age 36, the still-green Jindal might not only seem like a gimmick, but he would undermine McCain on two fronts: He'd remind voters of McCain's age, and he'd diminish the anti-Obama argument that experience, particularly in foreign policy, really matters.

Meanwhile, a national-unity ticket would, among other things, expose Obama's fraudulent claims to be a post-partisan uniter and reformer. The party-line, left-wing Democrat has done almost nothing in his short political career to support either claim. He is a product of the profoundly corrupt Chicago machine, not an enemy of it. And his definition of bipartisanship amounts to welcoming the unqualified support of Republicans who support his liberal agenda. The most liberal member of the Senate in 2007, according to National Journal, wasn't even a member of the bipartisan gang of 14.

Such a daring move on McCain's part would also signal that the country might enjoy a timeout from partisan rancor. Even the Obama-sycophantic mainstream press would have to admire such a profound gesture.

The benefit for Republicans might be substantial. The party could rightly claim to have the bigger tent and the stronger commitment to serious reform. And for movement conservatives, the next four years could be a time for much-needed rebuilding. Obviously, a Joe Lieberman or Sam Nunn would not be the presumptive front-runner for the GOP nomination in 2012. And the lack of an heir apparent would encourage a healthy and vigorous debate for the future of the party.

McCain would still have to reassure Republicans that he would be reliable on judges and other issues vital to conservatives. But a unity ticket would provide the greatest assurance of them all: Barack Obama wouldn't be the one picking judges.

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Novel Idea
It's a novel idea, but picking a Democrat (and I still consider Lieberman a Democrat) would essentially tell real conservatives to join the Constitution or Libertarian Party, because real conservatives are no longer welcome in the GOP. Actually, I'm starting to think that real conservatives have been marginalized in the GOP for years.

Bad Idea!
Now is hardly the time for more compromise when it comes to actual Conservatism. The actual problem with the GOP is internal divisiveness------ yes, I said the horrible catch word. While both of the main parties are serioulsy divided in idealogical terms, the Republicans have take the lead on it, & I believe are in for some real hard times in the general election. And, IF the GOP cannot see its way clear to return to its fundamentally conservative platform, I fear the country's digression to far liberal policies, and the high taxes that go with it.

nonsense in stilts
This country has been moving leftward ever since I can remember and probably even before that. The idea of placing a Democrat on the Republican presidential ticket is, in fact, nonsense in stilts.


We need to return to fundamental conservatism if this country is to survive. And as my father always said of liberals, "Line 'em up and shoot 'em." Nuff said.

Be A Maverick! No Votes For McCain!

The Stupid Party

The RNC wants an amnesty candidate.

Don't vote for one.

Another amnesty will result in Democrat majorities for decades, or until they are supplanted by the La Raza Party, why doesn't the RNC know that? How stupid do you have to be to import voters for the opposition at the same time you alienate your own voters? Nominating any of the amnesty supporters is a losing proposition, we will not support them. If the GOP intends to surrender our sovereignty and abandon the rule of law, they will find in November 2008, that they still have their big money/cheap labor donors, but they do not have voters. GOP-R

Be A Maverick! No Votes For McCain!

The Stupid Party

The RNC wants an amnesty candidate.

Don't vote for one.

Another amnesty will result in Democrat majorities for decades, or until they are supplanted by the La Raza Party, why doesn't the RNC know that? How stupid do you have to be to import voters for the opposition at the same time you alienate your own voters? Nominating any of the amnesty supporters is a losing proposition, we will not support them. If the GOP intends to surrender our sovereignty and abandon the rule of law, they will find in November 2008, that they still have their big money/cheap labor donors, but they do not have voters. GOP-RIP

Jonah, put down the crack pipe...
Another elite republican pushing liberalism via a liberal 'rat running mate for the liberal Juan McCain.

Where are the pro-Conservative journalists promoting and defending conservatism?

Jonah, this column is so disappointing after your brilliant "Liberalism/Fascism" book.

Jonah
I saw Mr.McCain give a speech the other day.It was,well, painful.The speech had 35 words and it took Mr.McCain 35 minutes to say them.Of course, there were no revelations.Maybe Mr.McCain could select someone that can speak.They don't have to be another Obama,even though that couldn't hurt.PLEASE...

Swiftian Irony?
If this isn't Swiftian irony, then Jonah Goldberg has been drinking the Kool-Aid. In a season of political insanity, this may take the cake!!

If McCain wants to drive stake into the heart of his candidacy, he should adopt the "Goldberg Proposal." Even moderate conservatives would sit out the election.

Chares F Schanie, PhD


Swiftian Irony?
If this isn't Swiftian irony, then Jonah Goldberg has been drinking the Kool-Aid. In a season of political insanity, this may take the cake!!

If McCain wants to drive stake into the heart of his candidacy, he should adopt the "Goldberg Proposal." Even moderate conservatives would sit out the election.

Chares F Schanie, PhD


VP,

will not Clinton and Obama also advance amnesty? Who is the anti-amnesty candidate?

No, McCain will not do this.
He did not become GOP nominee by being a fool. I'm surprised Condi Rice isn't being considered. She would be an outstanding choice. Romney would provide valuable fiscal acumen. Jindal needs some time to govern LA (Goldberg is correct on this). McCain will probably lose running with Crist. That would be a disastrous decision.

On the plus side, Goldberg's one-term presidency idea is very interesting.

Huckabee makes play for McCain ticket?

USATODAY-Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee said Sunday he would like to be John McCain’s running mate.

“There’s no one I would rather be on a ticket with than John McCain,” said Huckabee, who was a stronger than expected challenger against McCain for the Republican presidential nomination. “All during the campaign when I was his rival, not a running mate, there was no one who was more complimentary of him publicly and privately. … I still wanted to win, but if I couldn’t, John McCain was always the guy I would have supported and have now supported.

“But whether or not I do the best for him, that’s something that only he can decide,” Huckabee said on NBC’s Meet the Press.

watch

http://controlcongress.com/uncategorized/huckabee-makes-pla y-for-mccain-ticket

Outta Your Freakin Mind
You really are a neo-Conservative, Goldberg. And, speaking as an actual conservative, I use that term in its worst possible definition.

So, McCain picks a Democrat as a running mate, wins, and then keels over dead two months later.

Or, less say he serves out his term, then retires. Who has the leg up in the next election - the incumbent Democrat VP.

Nice plan Goldberg, that is, for those everyone in the GOP who actually supports Democrat policies, so long as they get to be in charge.

Close but not quite
This part right on:

"But by picking a staunch-conservative Republican, McCain would undercut his standing with the independents and swing voters he needs to win. If he picks a squishy Republican, many conservative voters will stay home in disgust."

McCain does not need conservatives to win, he needs the swing voters as mentioned. It would be a mistake to pick a conservative Dem but correct to pick a moderate Rep.

Regarding the one-term issue, I think the likelihood of one term is pretty high (future health reasons) but I wouldn't advertise it until I got elected. Otherwise it's another issue to deal with.

Huckabee--best choice for McCain
Huckabee is not the typical republican, dems like him, social conservatives like him, and if the economic repubs actually took the time to look into his good record governing Arkansas for 2 terms, they'd see he left that state with a hefty SURPLUS $.

He will sweep the south and all the places McCain would not. And he has a great rapport with him.

It just depends on whether or not McCain has the balls to pick him.

If McCain chooses anyone else, he will lose...and loose big.

you all seem to forget...
...there is no conservative on the ticket this season, that fight is already over. So, injecting an old Democrat, or likewise independent, is not a bad idea in the context of a single-term only. That would give guys like Thompson a chance to run again in four years and we can give true conservatism a second chance and correct our obvious mistake. Heck, I say throw caution to the wind, go completely out of the box and pick Ron Paul!...lol. Anti-war Libertarian and a moderate pro-war Republican, conservative and liberal media will both blow their lids...lol.

JUST GET SOMEBODY WHO CAN WIN!!
SLOWLY BUT SURELY THE TRUTH ABOUT OBAMA IS COMING OUT!

obama is bi-sexual and a cocaine/crack drug user. by the time the convention comes all obamas secrets will be out!

he has no chance by that time...for goodness sake hillary's already winning him in all the states that matter and once the entire world learns of him being bi-sexual and a drug user his days are done!

No
Not a good idea.

McCain needs a cons. candidate as veep. Pref. one who can balance the ticket with relative youth and an excellent cons. record.

If Obama spurns Clinton for VP
Then perhaps McCain could invite Hillary into a unity ticket, and then where do you think all the votes will go?

Seriously though, I think Senator Liberman is quite conservative and a good unity ticket choice. Though I like the Ron Paul idea; but what about J.C. Watts as VP candidate?

A arch-conservative might drive independents and Clintonistas away from McCain;

As for Condi Rice, just tell her she doesn't have to campaign much or resign as Sec State and she might say yes.

And

renny
You are correct but McCain is far too stubborn to pick someone so opposed to his values.

Mr. Goldberg, what utter pap!
Please tell me this column was meant as sarcastic humor. If not, then I am going to ask you what part of your anatomy currently has your brain residing in it. Surely thinking this stupid could not possibly have originated in that same brain (and as someone else said, the author of the book Liberal Fascism.)

You said,"The benefit for Republicans might be substantial. The party could rightly claim to have the bigger tent and the stronger commitment to serious reform."

Excuse me? Oh yes, THAT's the ticket to a stronger GOP...just join the Democratic Party even more than the GOP already has (and watch those donations/volunteers pour in!) Forgive me, but hahahahahahahaha. As my 24 year old has said, "I am NOT voting this year because we are (insert profanity here)if any of these three bozos are elected"(to which his friends chorus the same.)

Earth to Jonah, THIS is the problem! If you want to support the GOP's final nail in the coffin, go ahead. Just like David Frum and others you can then refer to yourself as "Jonah Goldberg, previously named conservative." For myself, I am energized to be one who is supporting a third party candidate for the first time in my life (especially after reading this bs of a column.)

I read somewhere that NRO has turned into a liberal rag....and this column surely supports that idea. Profoundly disappointing, Mr. Goldberg.


GOP 1854-2008. RIP
Truly, this must signal the death of the GOP, when we are talking about choosing a liberal Democrat for the vice presidency.

What?!?
Are you insane??? If McCain the Maverick picks a Democrats when he himself is already seen as nothing more than a cross between a RINO and a blue dog then any hope of the base showing up is destroyed!! Completely, it would shut the base down and this conservative would vote for Barr in that case.

And have we not learned our lesson? The reason we are in the mess we are in today is because George W Bush would not pick a young VP. He picked a dinosaur. We had no one to inherite the line in 2008 and the base fractured giving us John McCain.

No I want a conservative VP - Michael Steele, Duncan Hunter, Bobby Jindal, Mark Sanford, Marsha Blackburn, JC Watts, Rick Santorum, Sarah Palin, or some other conservative. I will expect nothing less.

Goldberg Playing the Buffoon

I would never believe Goldberg means it; he thinks he'll get some yucks making suckers out of one or two of us here. He doesn't remotely foresee such a possibility.

Nor would John McCain. He sincerely wants to be President. I don't think he'd name Condi, she'd have the Bush administration backing. That's the kiss of death. McCain won't call any woman. Too risky. Americans have never wanted a woman President in any large numbers anyway. McCain should know tha. He's well-experienced in our politics.

WHO?

Likely a southern candidate; I saw Mark Sanford of SC as good potential. Crist would again deliver FLA, which is essential. Or maybe Rick Perry of TX; a rising star and YOUNG. (That means a lot.) Wonder if Jonah Goldberg would object to Rick Perry? Lol!

We should realize now; these VP candidates need to offer much more than conservative credentials and good looks. The good one would help by raising funds. McCain's in need of a ticket that would get big contributions. Money makes the mare run.

What a year
What a campaign. In this Orwellian nightmare we are living in, what is bad for the republican party is actually good. Picking a democrat as VP would help ensure the death of the party and the necessary rebuilding or rise of a third party to replace it. I think he should pick Hillary. She is almost as hated by dems as McCain is by reps. We can set a new low approval record in a couple of years for a president. Hillary might get her wish to be the first female president when John keels over. She could then bring in Obama as VP. Exciting times.

One thing about this election is that Obama has already won his push for bipartisanship. We no longer have two parties fighting each other over ideology. We simply have two parties fighting each other over the spoils of the socialist one party system. Win/win for the politicians and lose/lose for the public.

We now have a red train and a blue train heading towards nirvana according to the published routes. The people keep saying we are on the wrong track but they will only board one of two colors of trains both heading to the same place. It matters not who the engineer is, the tracks only lead one place. The only question is whether it is an express or will it have many stops along the way.

The scenery is getting steadily worse and people are rightly concerned that the train is headed the wrong way. Stopping it and turning it around is seemingly impossible. The two political parties are two rails of one track. The third rail is the power that drives the train, money. The train is picking up speed. If we cannot turn off the power, the train must be derailed. I would much rather walk back home then continue the journey to a destination I am absolutely convinced I will not like even the tiniest bit.

McCain already told everyone.
The VP or running mate as I should say will be someone who is exactly like McCain.

McCain has already told the news this more than once, saying that it will be someone with his same exact values and positions.

So unless McCain goes back on that, it is what you are going to get.

Which by the way sounds a lot like a liberal.

Hitchhiker, that was
a GREAT post! I wish I would have read it before sending my local (supposedly conservative GOP candidate!) an email telling him I was not donating any more money after his latest global warming ad touting windmills, solar, and ethanol.

Yes indeed, it is a sad day when Democrats think they need to sound like Republicans and the Republicans think they need to sound like Democrats in order to win elections. Two parties? Like you so eloquently stated, no longer.

Unless McCain
promises to drop dead the first year in office I don't think it really matters who he picks. His whole term will be..."His way or the highway" period.

News today....McShamnesty is back on the amnesty bandwagon again. After all "We are all God's children." He actually said that.

That man REALLY hates conservatives. He's not only poking a stick in our collective eye he's stabbing us in the back AND twisting the knife.

Romney's newest flip-flop.
Perhaps Romney's newest flip will be to changes his views and positions to be exactly like McCain's.

Romney could even deny that his positions were ever that different than McCain's.

Yes, McCain might be able to mold Romney into whatever shape he wishes, maybe that is why he is on McCain's short list.

McCain needs someone
who is more conservative than he is. How about McCain-Kennedy? That has a familiar ring to it. I'm all for it. Anything to bring Juan down. Feingold would be another good choice.

Not Ashamed to be Right
"Earth to Jonah, THIS is the problem! If you want to support the GOP's final nail in the coffin, go ahead."

Hmmm, I think that is precisely Mr. Goldberg's secret plan!!
Don't you all get it? If McLame picks a lib for VP, moderate and strong conservatives will abandon the GOP in millions; where will they go?

I can think of a few possibilities; just think: Hitlerly vs McLame vs a third party candidate (Bob Barr, calling your office). Blacks and far leftists stay at home, uncertain, wishy washy fence sitters vote for McLame, and conservative s turn out in droves for their candidate.

Does that make sense to anyone?

Countryman,
Hmmm...interesting postulate. I am going to have to give that some thought. It did cross my mind that Mr. Goldberg may be up to something with this column...but then again, so many RINO conservatives think the answer is to become Democrats in order to convince voters to vote for them. Then you have the Democrats (Blue Dog) pretending to hold conservative principles...go figure! Like 'Hitchhiker' said,
"in this Orwellian nightmare..."

The Republican Party - RIP
Jonah - Aliens have taken over your mind. Get help now.

A Dem VP, Dems in McCain's cabinet. McCain is a D in R clothing.

This is the end of the Republican Party. Conservatives need to start over. Unfortunately, conservatives will scatter here and there (Libertarian, Constitution, Write-in, stay home) and only once this country has been DONE IN by liberal thinking will we come to our collective senses and rally around conservative values again.

It will take an amazing candidate to get our attention focused. And none of the third parties currently have that candidate.

But for now, it's over.

dreadnaught, please take your
name-calling and insults and go troll elsewhere, perhaps to a place which appreciates taking a posting atmosphere directly into the toilet. I am sure you can find like-minded posters who get their kicks from trading insults while attempting to "out-intellectualize" one another.

Here a Dem, there a Dem


Hitchiker, you've got it. It's like watching a train wreck that can't be avoided.

Dreadnaught - the UItimate Elite
You and Obama and his wife make a fine trio.

Your true colors (whoops, don't mean that in a racist way) are showing in your attitude toward "low-class", "high school level", un"sophisticated", "Dogpatch", "sheepherders".

My, and I thought that liberals identified with the proletariat; oh, it's just that they SAY they do, but in the company of fellow travelers and enemies of the State (conservatives), they feel free to speak their minds about "the lower orders."

reality
McCain will not pick a conservative for VP. If he drops dead his globalist handlers will make sure there is another stooge waiting in the wings.

In case anyone hasn't figured it out yet we are screwed.


As to Rick Perry being young? He is a freaking traitor. I could post more about him, but what's below will give you the idea.



"As WND has reported, campaign contributions to Gov. Rick Perry paved the way for TxDOT to build the Trans-Texas Corridor, a four football-fields-wide truck-car-train-pipeline to run parallel to I-35. In the PPP deal, Cintra, a Spanish investment concern, will own the toll rights on the superhighway for 50 years after it is built." (Guiliani negotiated the contract for Cintra)

"While Texas Gov. Rick Perry received significant Internet attention for participating in the secretive Bilderberg annual meeting in Turkey, the attendance of a second U.S. governor was largely overlooked." (Kansas gov. probably about the inland port in Kansas that Mexico is going to own)



We shall have world government whether or not you like it-by conquest or consent. Paul Warburg (CFR member, before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Feb 17,1950 Also founder of Federal Reserve. He became a director of the CFR at its founding in 1921, remaining on the board until 1932.)




April Fool's?
April 1 was almost two months ago. If you're serious, why half step the idea. Why not just ask McCain to declare himself a democrat, or better yet, just dissolve the Republican party and become the party of slavery, Democrat? It is ironic, that the party of slavery (Democrat) still wants to enslave us, only using the power of the government to do it, through high taxes and the nanny state.

Jonah
you sound like one of the dems, independents or swing voters that you mention who elected mccain as the nominee in the first place. You are right he might as well pick a dem for a partner as he is one himself and that is exactly what he has done for the last several years while stabbing conservatism in the back.

Hillary, osama obama and J McCain delenda est.

Why not just have 4 damcrats?
Then we'll all call ourselves democrats and have complete unity as we all run over the cliff.

What a stupid idea!

Wobbie is Wight!
"Both McCain and Obama are trying to redo their parties "base" to more closely match what they perceive the American people want."

True, as far as it goes; the key word, however, dear Wobbie, is "perceive".

Neither one of them has any idea whatsoever what Americans want, just what they read in the mainstream liberal media, and polls taken in Greenwich Village.

And I think you're right in your second post too. (Okay, this is totally weird for me.)

The extreme left will leave the Dems when Hillary hijacks the nomination (perhaps unite in the American Communist Party, an oxymoron if ever I heard one), and the conservatives are already leaving the GOP.

What's left in the middle is the fence-straddling, "I have no ideas or principles of my own" type of voters - the type that makes me wonder how they are able to tie their own shoes and hold down a job at the same time.

Watch out Wobbie!
I think that rational thought may be contagious - if the DNC gets a clue that you are starting to think clearly and logically from hanging around with us too much here on TH, you might lose your job!

Here in my new 3rd World SE Asian home
It looks to me like American politics are sinking to the level of the Banana Republic politics we have here. In not too many years, y'all might be worse and you folks deserve what you get.

Extremism and Moderation
Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is No Vice. And Moderation in the Pursuit of Justice is No Virtue--Barry Goldwater

This means you can't have a little bit of liberty, like being sort of a slave, but not really; nor can you have a moderate amount of justice - what, a little bit of justice here and there, but not always in all situations?
It's like "sort of pregnant."

LETS GO JOE
Joe LIEberman would be a fantastic choice. He could possibly go down in history as a losing VP candidate TWICE (although he didn't REALLY lose back in 2000, did he?) On a serious note, townhallers, has anyone ever lost as a VP (major party) nominee twice? I can't think of any...

An excellent idea.
There are conservative democrats. If he picked one, he could placate his conservative base while reaching out to dems and independents at the same time. Brilliant.

No, no, a thousand times no
The centrists who are going to vote for McCain won't care who his running mate is. The VP slot this time around is going to be needed to get conservatives to bother showing up. He cannot afford to further alienate the conservative base. He might not need all of us, but he's going to need some of us, and this is most definitely not the way to do that.

Foolish, foolish idea.

McCain/Democrat '08? Surely you Jest!
Why not a Democrat for Vice President? How can this question not be a joke? If McCain were to decide that he wants his VP, AKA the president of the Senate, to be a Democrat, he might as well abandon the Republican Party altogether and run as an Independent or a Democrat. What would it say about McCain's Republican Party if he could not find one man or woman in its ranks who could serve as a suitable VP candidate?
And how would picking a staunch-conservative Republican VP candidate undermine his standing with independents? Is McCain the Maverick not maverick enough? Is McCain such an extreme right-wing conservative Republican that his ticket needs to be moderated and diluted by the presence of a Democrat? If the writing is on the wall for Republicans, it is because they have insisted on being so much like a nauseating flavor of Democrat (only cheaper, older and more stale).
Instead of gimmicks like hybrid tickets, Republicans need to offer real leadership, fresh conservative ideas and fresh faces if they are going to hang on to the White House. That's why a bold VP choice like Bobby Jindal would be ideal. Like McCain, there is little Jindal can do about his position on the age spectrum (36). But unlike Obama, he has had a political career (albeit short) studded with brilliant accomplishments. And these accomplishments have been built on a commitment to sound conservative principles that independents and moderates can agree with. Looking to the future, after four to eight years as McCain's VP, Jindal would be a stellar Presidential candidate.
Say whatever you wish about your favorite VP possibilities, the bottom line is this: there are many Republicans who could serve as outstanding VP candidates with appeal across the political spectrum. McCain need not resort to a Democrat.

running mate
why not pick rush limbaugh. his strategies have worked very well with the dems. besides rush and mccain are both staunch conservatives and very religious. i think they would make a great team. did not limbaugh say that is (to paraphrase) that if john mccain became the nominee on the repub side, that it would be the end of the repub party as we know it. he's a maverick who marches to his own drum, and so does rush. rush is very politically astute. that would be my choice. mccain does not have to cross party lines when there's rush.

Dumb Idea
I can't believe anyone would consider this a good idea. We need to stand up for our values - not conceed and appease. Lets hope he picks Mitt. BHO can be beaten.

The middle are puke
To know by natural common sense that life begins at conception and that abortion is murder is called extremism.

To know by natural common sense to burn and lust for one of the same sex is a sick perversion that causes disease and death is called extremism.

And to know by the ability to read and just a little common sense that when the 1st amendment was written it meant for the government not to interfere with the church instead of trying to ban GOD from the country is called extremism.

Well call me extreme because to be for all these things and much worse are perverted, evil and sick ideas and we need to be rid of people like that or at least not put them in powerful positions where they force their perversion on the nation as a whole.

So those who ride the fence and just go along are puke.
So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.

Mccain wants to straddle the fence for votes so he can pick anyone he wants I wouldn't vote him period because he is puke.

Foolish but plausible...
I have long thought that the ubiquitous Mr. Lieberman was standing next to McCain for a reason.

Why bother with VP candidates at all, they could just return to the practice of second highest electoral vote "getter" is VP. A democrat VP would also be a big help casting tie breaking votes....for democrats of course.

I really doubted McCain's ability to find additional ways to lose my vote but as usual...he delivers! It looks like Barr is going do at least as well as Perot did.

no, not Romney
McCain will need someone who can help his ticket to attract votes, and whether you like it or not, a sizeable chunk of the electorate cannot vote for Romney because of his religion. You can stand there and call us names or tell us to "get over it", but you will be losing while you do that because it is non-negotiable.


Go for it!
Choose Hillary as a running mate and assure yourself the White House. That's the winning ticket...

After all, it's not party or nation, but power that drives the nut cases left running for President...

Go OBORGama in 08!

as for the other two names in the news
Two other names recently appeared in the news as possible VP candidates, but those won't fly either.

Bobby Jindal was recently elected governor of Louisiana. He is very young (i.e., barely eligible) and hasn't been in office long enough to prove anything. Give him a couple of terms there, and let's take another look at him in 2016. If he's all he's cracked up to be, even bigger things may await him. I, for one, will watch with interest.

I'd like to see some Floridians chime in on the other one, but from what I've heard from the few Sunshine Staters I know, Charlie Crist is widely hated there. Of course, that might be a reason for him and McCain to bond, but it doesn't sound promising. Florida, your thoughts?


Must Pick a True Conservative.
When Clinton got in he, fired every Republican U.S. Attorney. No problem.
Bush gets in and keeps some Clinton holdovers like Norman Meneta at the Dept. of Transporation and George Tenet at CIA. As a result of this, Mineta refuses to profile at airports, even after 9/11, because he finds it offensive. Bush later fires several U.S. Attornies and the liberal hyocrites go crazy despite having no problem when old Bubba did it.
McCain would be nuts to pick a Dem as V.P. because they will stab you in the back every time. Lets be honest, the only thing people like Reid, Schumer, Durbin are interested in is not whats good for the U.S. but whats good for the Democrat Party. Otherwise we would be drilling in Anwar tomorrow.

Democrat Infiltrators
REpublicans,

It is high time to be rid of these RINO/NEOCON infiltrators. The first thing to do is NOT vote for McCain...and then after the election-purge the party.

McCain's Democrat Running Mate
Senator McCain has enough problems without furthering the gap with Conservative voters like me.

Mr. Goldberg is no dummy but this is a really stupid suggestion.

I have the perfect Democrat for him
The effeminate Lindsay Lohan Grahamnesty, good friend of Senator Tappy Toes.

one of your crackpots here:
_______Democrat Infiltrators____________

"REpublicans,

It is high time to be rid of these RINO/NEOCON infiltrators. The first thing to do is NOT vote for McCain...and then after the election-purge the party."

Long on opinion, short on brains. The first thing to do is vote FOR John McCain.

We have had a steady infiltration of nincompoops in this thread yesterday & today. This is one smelly example.

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Political judo
McCain should pick a women for VP. He would inherit all the women who resent Hillary's loss.

dear traitorbill:


The only Republican female who would be conservative is the lady from Alaska. No help to the ticket. He's better off with a staunch conservative male. (I suggest asking Gingrich.)

Hillary's unhappy followers might come over to McCain anyway; since they figure to reject Obambi from the get-go.

Limbaugh VP The Drug Addicts Choice!
That was a good choice. McCain needs an uneducated,draft dodging,junkie,3 times married, no children,with 20 years of repulsive and inane comments for all to hear and enjoy.During the VP debate it would be fun to watch the big fat idiot stutter and stammer and sweat like a pig. Anyone picking Sean Hannity I would like to hear a good reason why.And please no Glenn Beck selections.

It Would Make Sense
For Senator McCain to pick a Democrat as a running mate. After all, he is a Democrat in all but party name. Perhap he should select Senator Clinton. After all, she is losing the race as the Presidential nominee of the Democrat party, and her politics and actions are similar to Senator McCain's.

Not voting is still a vote
Some of you are going to sit out this election because McCain is not exactly what you like for a candidate. Isn't that called cutting off your nose to spite the face? And how is this going to further your conservative cause? If you don't vote for McCain you are in effect voting for Hillary or Obama. McCain may not be the perfect candidate but he still is a hell of a lot better then the alternative. You sound like spoiled brats sulking because you are not getting exactly what you wanted.

Not exactly?
How about not at all what we want. McCain isn't at all what conservatives want.

And everyone who is trying to BULLY us or SCARE us into voting how they think we should doesn't understand the term freedom or free agency.

At least for now this is a free country and we are allowed to VOTE OUR CONSCIENCE. Why don't you do the same and stop trying to bully your will on everyone else.

Do not insult our intelligence
"If you don't vote for McCain you are in effect voting for Hillary or Obama."

That is absurd. Not voting is exactly that: not voting. If I sit this one out, McCain will have to find someone to replace me, sure, but he won't have to find two. He'll have to find two only to replace those idiots who, instead of voting for him, are foolishly voting for Obama.

McCain is not as desperate as some of his partisans seem to be.

On the other hand, picking a woman might not be a bad idea. But McCain will need someone to his right, irrespective of gender, someone we can all get behind, or he will be campaigning with an insurmountable handicap and would likely lose.


RE: McCain's Running Mate?
"Why Not a Democrat?"
Yeah, why not?
Then they will be a matching set.

Goldberg ought to be ashamed

Thanks, Jonah Goldberg, for floating such a malicious lead balloon in this ToonHall;

It's brought out all the jack@sses; what did you expect? I have often seen what a wag you think you are. I'm about to cancel my NRO subscription. With friends like you we sure don't need Chris Matthews Mcafferty and Olbsurdmann.

Smoking Crack Is Right!
Notice that Jonah really has no suggestions for who this phantom Democrat would be, except for a passing reference to Sam Nunn -- all of 2 years younger than McCain and out of politics for the last 11 years -- and Lieberman (5 years younger than McCain).

Jonah also does not cite a single instance in history where such a move was successful. The only US presidential election where the President & VP were from different parties was in 1796 when, under the original rules, the person who came in 2nd place in the presidential race automatically became VP (Thomas Jefferson under John Adams). If anyone knows of a case where someone switched parties in order to be VP, please let me (and Jonah) know.

Furthermore, Goldberg makes this asinine statement: "The most liberal member of the Senate in 2007 [Obama], according to National Journal, wasn't even a member of the bipartisan gang of 14."

-- When the Gang of 14 first met, in May of 2005, Obama had been a Senator for all of 18 weeks. What are the odds that ANYONE approached him to join that group? I'd say it was a longshot. Goldberg's petty sniping makes it sound like Obama was asked to join but declined ... something that did not happen.

goldberg is a joke
who signs your paycheck, dumbarse?

Not Going to Tell You
Subject: goldberg is a joke
who signs your paycheck, dumbarse?

Ummm, we do. He and the other columnists get paid for every article they write here, and the more people read his article, the more he gets paid.
Kinda ironic, huh?

Just Re-Ordered My To-Buy List
Jonah, would that I was being facetious when I ask you for the name of your ghostwriter.

He either wrote Liberal Facism - in which case I'd like to track down more of his work...or he wrote this pseudo-intellectual tripe...

Yes, please let's take a break from all this messy partisan rancor. "You agree Mr. Adams?"

a mirthless group you all are


It takes no psychology degrees to see that Jonah G. is putting us on. Not the non-starter that McCain would ever pick a DEM VP --Just to generate this partisan argument and bring out the nasty in us.

My brain may be addled at 70; but it's never entered my mind the NRO could support any liberal Dem on the ticket.

These jokers were behind Romney the better part of the year; which I happened to find naive, coming from so many educated fops. Romney was the super dead-end candidate of all GOP history, IMHO. There are good reasons to see it.

Now Jonah leads us into the next cul-de-sac; offering this poison pill for the gullible to ingest. Maybe he's sour on McCain and that's all.

It's his way of flipping the Senator a finger. Jonah' a jerk.
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