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Friday, January 04, 2008
Jonah Goldberg :: Townhall.com Columnist
Held Hostage in Iowa
by Jonah Goldberg
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I'm writing this just hours before Iowans head to the caucuses to pick their party's nominee. The day before the caucuses, Hillary Clinton proclaimed the "eyes of the world" were on Iowa. This is something of an overstatement, of course. Something tells me very few of the women around the village well in some shanty outside Lahore are, at this moment, debating whether Joe Biden will have enough drivers to get his people to the Martin Memorial Library, at 406 Packwaukee St., in New Hartford on caucus night. And the cafes in Saigon are hardly abuzz with the question of whether Mike Huckabee nailed his closing argument to the guests of the Council Bluffs Cracker Barrel.

Still, the Iowa caucuses are important, enormously, absurdly, outlandishly - scandalously! - important. And here's the thing: If we are going to drive a stake through the Iowa caucuses, now is the moment to do it. Regardless of Thursday's results, come Monday of next week some other twisted soul is going to start scouting Des Moines locations for his 2012 campaign office. And not long after that, a whole passel of politicians will find it in their interest to protect the Iowa caucuses in a craven attempt to win sympathy from the Hawkeye State political machine.

Don't get me wrong. I like Iowa. I've been there many times. I would argue that one of the three best steakhouses in the world is Rube's in humble Montour. Iowans are as nice as the land is flat. Given a choice between having the first-in-the-nation caucus thingamajig in Iowa every four years and having it in some other state, I think Iowa wins pretty handily.

But that's the thing. No state should have this much power every four years. (Sorry, that goes for New Hampshire, too.)

Before we get to that, let us also note for the record how stupid the process of "caucusing" is compared with this other ancient custom known as "voting." The system, particularly on the Democratic side, is a mix of Chinese fire drill, Politburo theatrics and Roman priestly ceremony. Caucusers get no secret ballot, but must instead vote with their feet. Democrats actually have to stand in a corner. The caucuses (cauci?), in the words of the Wall Street Journal's John Fund, "were designed as an insiders' game to attract party activists, donors and political junkies and give them a disproportionate influence in the process. In other words, they are designed not to be overly democratic."

Defenders of Iowa's racket make it sound like theirs is a tradition hallowed by time consecrated, a custom straight from the bosom of the American heartland, like maypole dancing and barn raising. Poppycock. Iowa's first-in-the-nation boondoggle began in 1972, and according to Mark Stricherz, author of "Why the Democrats are Blue: Secular Liberalism and the Decline of the People's Party," has its roots in the New Left, not Norman Rockwell. The "participatory democracy" of the Port Huron Statement informs the arcane procedures that eschew "one man, one-vote" and discriminate against people who can't afford to spend two hours jibber-jabbering about whether Barack Obama's nationalized health-care plan is better than John Edwards' nationalized health-care plan.

Iowans claim that they deserve to be kingmakers because they take the "process" so seriously, measuring the candidates, debating every issue, etc. Uh huh. Then why has turnout, at least until this year, hovered around 6 percent of registered voters? Is that a benchmark to which no other state could aspire?

More important, if Iowans are so deadly serious about the issues, why is ethanol the third rail of Iowa politics? It's hard to reconcile the idea that Iowans are exemplary custodians of civil virtue with the fact that they are rabid defenders of welfare checks for government moonshine.

This is not to say that Iowans don't take their role in the selection process seriously. But do you want to know why they take their responsibilities seriously? Because they've been given an important responsibility. Are we really to believe that if North Dakota were given the first-in-the-nation gig, it would fumble the ball? Are Montanans such mouth-breathing morons that they can't put on a caucus or primary?

Iowa's party and press hacks say they have the machinery and procedures in place to run things smoothly. Of course they say that; they're party hacks and they get rich and famous off that machinery and those procedures. My guess is that other hacks in other states would rise to the challenge - and incentives! - of such an opportunity.

That's why the first-in-the-nation primary elections should rotate. Pick some formula in which two different states get picked every four years. You could have rules accounting for geographic diversity - back-to-back events in North and South Carolina, for example, would be silly. But move it around so that the country isn't held hostage by the same left-wing and right-wing populists every four years.

But we'd better act now. Because by next week, the Iowans start taking hostages again.

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NIce Idea, but....
Mr. Goldberg suggests "That's why the first-in-the-nation primary elections should rotate. Pick some formula in which two different states get picked every four years."

So, who is going to do the picking? It seems that each state is choosing when to hold caucauses or primaries. Would you have the Feds do the selection? Perish the thought!

Since these primaries and caucauses are venues for political parties (private entities)to select their candidates, why are governments holding and paying for these functions? Let the parties run and pay for their own selection functions of whatever type, when and where they choose. Government's role should be limited to running and paying for the general election. Who knows, this policy just might help break the stranglehold the two major parties now have on the political process.

Caucus joke.
This is the only time voters get to screw the politicians and they normally do. If the Iowa caucus meant anything why don't we have in our history a President Dean or President Dole, because it does not mean anything. I like that hitlery got her middle aged spread butt kicked in the state and now she says it was a great day for demoncats. The whole world's eyes were on the fact that 70% of demoncats in Iowa want you to just go away and torment New Yorkers from your senate seat. B. hussein obama is as presidential as howdy doody and they look alike too. It is a shame that demoncats have to choose between a woman or a black person to relieve their guilt for being affluent or anglo, poor little guilt ridden deviants.

what Iowa told us...
About the choices and Iowa results...
Mitt SAYS some of the right things, depending on when he speaks... too many are nervous about the Mormon thing. The Huckster is simply another Jimmy Carter-- he has the right tone (anti-Washington-business-as-usual) after Presidente Jorge and the rest in Washington have stunk up the place even more than usual. Jorge will prove to have been a DISASTER for America and Republicans-- he has been wrong on two critical issues of his tenure-- embracing ILLEGALS, and letting the neoCONS snooker him at an all-in cost(per the CBO) of $2 TRILLION to make a bigger mess in the big sandbox.

Sen. Juan McQuisling does speak his mind, but Middle America soundly rejects his embracing of ILLEGALS and is weary of the neoCONS' war against the wrong bad Islamics (for an ulterior agenda which ultimately could not hide the deceptions). Shrillary might shrivel up into irrelevance because she reeks of same old, same old things and of phoniness and blind self-aggrandizing ambition. Fred has good ideas but was not ready for prime time-- he might have been a stalking horse for his friend McQuisling to take out Mitt... there are rumors he will throw his support to McCain.

People like Hugh Hewitt can forget the RINO wishful thinkin' that ILLEGAL aliens are not a CRITICAL issue-- it wounded Shrillary badly recently, and Juan McQuisling freely admits "I got the message" (resoundingly from Middle America)... the huckster is running and hiding from his pro-ILLEGAL stands.

This is not a new idea...
...it was floated in the past.There was a serious plan to divide the country up into four regions,with approximetly (but not exactly) equal populations and maintaining State integrity,such as Northwest,Southwest,Northeast,Southeast.These regions would rotate every four years so that each region would get their shot at being first,second,third,and fourth.

I always liked the idea.One reason was my contempt for the Iowa "caucus" nonsense.If there isn't a secret ballot,there isn't a free election.The primaries are not for just state elections,they are for National elections and the Federal government should have a say in how it is done.

Favoorless 1
Dear Favorless,

For some reason, you seem to feel that there is some drawback to having a woman or an African American as presidential choices. Now that Howdy Doody comment was hardly intellectual, and considerably unnecessary. The Democrats also offer the typical white Anglo male candidate in Edwards, a Wasp as has been preferred as presidsential candidates historcally. And he is a very good candidate, too. In fact, all the Democratic candidates are all very good, even if they are not all male Wasps. There is no guilt about the choices. These people chose to run as candidates, polls were taken showing percentages of preferences, they continued to run, and Iowa came, and Obama won. It's okay. We will survive if real change, and brother, that is real change, does happen. We need real change. Even the Republicans are saying it. It's okay. We won't all suddenly die or loose our jobs and houses. That's a part of today, not tomorrow. Don't get scared. The worst that could happen is that you will be uncomfortable for 4 years. And it's only Iowa, after all. So take it easy, it will be okay.

Jeanne-Marie
Honey, this is not beanbag. Political power comes out of the barrel of a gun. Mao Tse Tung said it and implemented it and now China, in less than 60 years, has gone from irrelevant backwater to heir-apparent to world domination. Actually, in Germany the people voted foolishly in the early thirties and less than 10 years later, people WERE dying and losing their houses. Get serious.

“caucuses (cauci?)”
Since Mr. Goldberg askes, the plural of caucus is indeed caucuses (since it is of American origin), unless, of course, he wish to refer to a number of cruets in Latin.

My solution to the problem of reconciling democratic representation with cost-effectiveness and the difficulties of ascertaining the will of a sadly uninformed electorate is to remove this voting lark all together. Return, I say, to the practice which the Athenians developed—and which might prove to be the only way to promote real democracy within the Islamic world (since it can be argued that it would represent God’s will)—and select representatives by lot.
Lawyers and other overpaid parasites are over-represented in parliaments currently, and plumbers and other ordinary folks are rarely elected; if members of Congress were chosen randomly from a list of all those who are prepared to fulfil their civic duty to serve the State, think how truly representative of their communities the representatives would be.
Even a randomly selected president (from qualified citizens, of course) could hardly do worse than many recently appointed CiCs, surely.

Thanks for the laughs
Had to chuckle, the first few sentences reminded me a bit of Anne Coulter's wit (that is intended as a compliment, Mr. Goldberg).

Couldn't agree more with the thrust of the article. Someone said once that "Eternity is two people and a ham". I think the Iowa process has redefined eternity.

I agree wholeheartedly....
with Mr. Goldburg. Why is it that every 4 years, for one day, we are expected to be on the edge of our seats while six percent of Iowa's population reveals their choice of a presidential candidate. And then we enter the the next period of 3 years and 364 days of not caring one whit what 6 percent of Iowa's population thinks.


lodestar
I think Iowa reflected voters want "change".

Obama has to be seen as repudiating the Clinton juggernaut, with all its expectation of Hillary's inevitable "coronation".

Huckabee must be seen as repudiation of big- money funded, slick campaign, orchestrated by Romney.

I am not supporting any of these candidates, necessarily. I am only trying to analyze WHY they won.

First-time caucus attendees among the democrats were a large part of why Obama won, which suggests "change", not conventional Clintonian politics, was the driving force.

Evangelical support for Huckabee among the republicans was crucial in his victory, despite Romney's spending big bucks there to court that vote. To me, this means Huckabee's appeal, and his message about changing the culture of America, will bring out the evangelical vote nationwide.

I share your concerns Huckabee MAY be GOP's equivalent to Jimmy Carter. God, I hope not!

And I share your view on the neocons snookering Bush on Iraq and other matters.

However, Huckabee, to his everlasting CREDIT, did go on record castigating Bush for his arrogant foreign policy, something sniveling GOP frontrunners were too cowardly to do(altho my man Ron Paul is under no such politically correct constraints).

I would not have been so kind to Bush as to characterize his foreign policy as simply "arrogant"; I would have referred to as a "trainwreck". But at least Huckabee something, unlike cowardly GOPERS who are too afraid to admit the emperor has no clothes.

Bigotry wins Iowa for the Huckster
Let's see, The Huckster got 34 percent in Iowa, Mitt 25%. Evangelicals were 60 percent of the caucus-goers this year, compared with 40 percent in 2004. If my math is correct, if we exclude the extra 20 percent which were hyped by the Evangelical pastors to go to the polls to keep that "heretic" (Mitt) from gaining the nomination, the Huckster would have had 22 percent, and Mitt would have won.

Is my math correct? Why must Evangelical pastors be so negative and engender bigotry in their adherents? The pastors don't sound like Christians to me.

Jeanne-Marie
There are no good canidates on the democratic side but I am pointing out that demoncats in the population, average voters, reject people like biden, who has much more experience than any other canidate in the hopes they can tell all their friends that they voted for a woman or a minority, that warm fuzzy feeling. What about the country? Today B. Hussein Obama said "his plan to solve the High oil price(heating oil/gasoline) was to work and talk with farmers and scientists", THAT DOES NOT SCARE YOU!! That is his plan? Not drilling for oil in the states or building refineries or doubling the reserves, just talk and work with dreamers about a futuristic fantasy. That is the howdy doody reference, The man is not intellectually or ethically fit to run this country. If he had the same policy opinions as a white man he would have kucinish numbers and hitlery would be worse if she were a white male. The only reason the two of them are on the top tier is because of what they look like. Edwards is a ambulance chaser who recieved a bump from the nader nutbags but he will fall. As a conservative I would love to see a black woman as POTUS but only if it was Condi Rice, just wikipedia her name and compare her resume against Hussein Obamas and you will see that demoncats only vote on gender and color and not qualifications.

Campaigning
Re "I wonder if we should drive a stake through the Iowa caucuses": some of us would like to drive a stake through the "permanent campaign" ethos that has come to be. Personally I would like to see a six-week limit to campaigning. 1) What they do now---they've been at it already for about 18 months it seems--- takes so much money that the whole process becomes about raising money, which inevitably gets people to do things they know they shouldn't do, just because so much money is absolutely necessary to do the thing (all candidates don't have Romney's deep pockets). 2) I don't see the benefit of wearing a candidate out, just exhausting him---the process must be a killer ---before he has to take on the demands of office. 3) We all get sick and tired of the campaign and start tuning out the message(s). I bet people on both sides feel this way, too---I hear it everywhere--"enough already".

On the other hand, Iowa sure got fired up---the turnout last night was unexpectedly huge.

Jeanne Marie
All the "dems" are good candidates???
WOW, let me see:
The only difference hillary & John Dillinger is John paid for his crimes.
$john $edwards got rich off of backs of the poor.
And a partly black--partly muslim--empty sack.
YEP--good candidates!

Favorless
You say that 70% of Democrats in Iowa just want this all to go away? Funny, then, that last night Democrats flooded the caucuses in record numbers---twice as many Democrats went as last time, a much greater increase in attendance than was shown by Republicans. I wish I had written down the numbers shown on TV. One precinct said they had expected 100 people and 420 showed up. Sounds more as if Democrats were really revved up.

Favorless, calling Barack Obama silly names isn't going to change the fact that voters are inspired by him. When was the last time a few thousand people stood for hours in below-zero cold to hear you speak? It has happened repeatedly when Obama speaks. And I doubt that Iowans are so hard-up to see a black person that they did it for that reason. BTW, I learned last night that Iowa is 85% white (one commentator said "Iowa is whiter than the North Pole") and that Obama did well even in the very conservative counties in the West of the state.

Who knows what may happen in remaining states---but it seems that last night more happened in Iowa than a re-run of the Howdy Doody Show.

Upland William gets it Right!
.... Mr Goldbrick, like his second-handing mummy, about whom he only recently stopped regularly writing, is too much part of the self-annointing, self-appointing and self-congratulating east coast establishment to realise how much of that pathetic pack's psychopathology he projects with such fascistically elitist commentary.

And, please, Dear Lord, from your lips to G-d's ear that every government involvement in our beloved fraternal republic's electoral process, including McCain's and Feingold's un-Constitutional repeal of the First Amendment, be thrown out along with the Republicrats 150-years-old cartel. That, that is, that for ever prevents our replacing either of the Demoblican's component gangs.

Upland William gets it Right!
.... Mr Goldbrick, like his second-handing mummy, about whom he only recently stopped regularly writing, is too much part of the self-annointing, self-appointing and self-congratulating east coast establishment to realise how much of that pathetic pack's psychopathology he projects with such fascistically elitist commentary.

And, please, Dear Lord, from your lips to G-d's ear that every government involvement in our beloved fraternal republic's electoral process, including McCain's and Feingold's un-Constitutional repeal of the First Amendment, be thrown out along with the Republicrats 150-years-old cartel. That, that is, that for ever prevents our replacing either of the Demoblican's component gangs.

Favorless
Could you explain to us why you think Barack Obama is "intellectually unfit to run the country"? Let's run a quick comparison. Mike Huckabee did his undergraduate study at a small Christian college in the South, majoring in Bible studies; Barack Obama has his degree from Columbia University. Mike Huckabee then went to divinity school; Barack Obama went to Harvard Law. Mike Huckabee then dropped out to become a televangelist; Barack Obama not only got his law degree but served as Editor of the Harvard Law Review (arguably the most prestigious position for any law student in the United States). Mike Huckabee has worked as a televangelist; Barack Obama has worked teaching Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago.

It's generally assumed that educational accomplishments and intellectual capacity are related. I am guessing that academic credentials don't mean anything to you, and that you don't even recognize the names of schools, but you might ask yourself why they matter to other people---Huckabee is a nice guy, a lovely man, but when it comes to academic credentials, he doesn't have any. And it shows. Already he has embarrassed himself (and this country) with his utter lack of knowledge of foreign affairs. He even made a joke about not knowing anything. Yes, he has served as governor of a small southern state---and Obama has served as a Senator for ten years (eight in Illinois, two in Washington).

Jonah
You say you want to drive a stake through the Iowa caucuses. I say why pick on Iowa? Let’s drive a stake through the whole corrupt nominating system.

It is geared to the two parties and cuts the others out. Now the parties have persuaded the State governments to finance them also. If I was a “wheel” in the Libertarian Party I would be suing over that.

Let’s go to the multiple run-off election process that I described yesterday.

Small states too much power generally
If you think the Iowa caucuses are bad, the arcane electoral college is worse. Both processes give small states too much influence over who is elected president. Electoral votes in California are not worth as much as electoral votes in Montana, since those small states get more votes per capital than the large states do. That won't change anytime soon, just as the Iowa caucuses are with us for better or worse. But every four years we have to go through this stupid process.

Goldberg and Lowry Need a Farm Visit
Huck is the man who seems like a man. He is not having to recreate himself. You can call him goofy or Gomer and he will cry all the way to the White House. Underestimated by those whose only callouses are on their priveleged rear ends and the tips of their fingers from sitting and typing, the farmers, the factory workers, and even the bank tellers like Huck and his new brand of positive populist conservatism, PPC. The caustic cons of the chattering set need to go visit the farm awhile, but not wear an Ivy League sweater like Romney did all around Iowa.

Iowa
As an Iowan I don't give a damn about the caucuses.I'm damn sick of listening day in and day to these BS professors lieing about themselves and their positions.I also don't like the pushing of ethanol as a substitute fuel.Pick any state you want for the first of the year primaries or cauci.If you ask the reporters they would chose Hawaii..Lily I agreed with your first posting,but you went downhill after that.Bush graduated from college with a degree,but the dems said he was stupid.Give me a man or woman with common sense over a college degree any day.

Obama is amply and admirablyeducated in
prestigous universities, far more than Huckabee ,that is a given!

Do we usually take a recent graduate from prestigious universites to head up a large corporation or to govern a large state like New York?

Why not? We probably don't do that because we realistically know that books don't have all the answers. Experience and life skills matter also.

Now where has Obama's book learning led him so far? His first position was as an attorney/ community organizer, a position usually thought of as one who shakes up the status quo, benefitting the poor, downtrodden, minorities etc.

A worthy position certainly in contrast to the one he might have had with his credentials. But also a position others may see as radical, but a change agent nonetheless and voters seemingly are asking for change. But what kind and how far?

His next position was as a legislater in Illinois where he was known for a number of important votes in which he voted "present". Is that leadership?

Along the way, he dedicated himself to being a christian after being persuaded by a black radical minister who heads up a church that breaths fire and brimstone not just for christianity but for the black race. Obama has been quoted as saying he will have to distance himself from this minister if he gets the nomination.

Now, let's look at his record in the senate. Pure liberal, some saying even more thaen Hillary's record.

So, in all with these wonderful academic credentials, this man, in spite of his " can't all get along" rehtoric, is decidedly and consistently to the left.


Hmmm
Goldberg's proposal and gripe both flow from an elitist agenda. He who would be king would tell the rest of us how to manage our affairs according to his lights.

I'm not an Iowan, but have family roots far back into that state where in the 1880's, and before, the farmers were reading papers that published political (and other)stuff that today's college graduates, and maybe Mr. Goldberg, would have difficulty wrapping their minds around.

At best, it is better to judge this article as either a desperate, last-minute effort not to be taken seriously, or simply to smile at its pompous pretentions.

At worst? Hmmm.

Alternative
Michael Barone has championed a proposal (I can't remember the name), that would have the ten smallest states vote first, then a couple weeks later the next ten smallest states and so on until finally the ten largest states vote. (The logistics might not be exact, but that's the basic premise) I think it makes a lot of sense and would like to research it some more. Does anyone know the name of the proposal?

Favorless
Dear Favorless,

As Lily pointed out, Obama has a very strong background, Harvard Laaaw, head of Harvard Review, those are some credentials, for background you really can't do better. I know, it's Yale for the Republicans, but Harvard has a longer history.

He's had his experience in the senate. How much time did JFK spend in the senate? I'm asking you, I don't officially know. While I keep asking in my comments for someone to tell me what a Middle Class income is appx., and what an Upper Middle Class income is appx., (that is because I am a college instructor with an MA making $24,000 a year and I have a need to know for my own appreciation).

Well, the lower income folk, the seniors, the disabled, especially those coming back from Iraq, the medically needy, their representation and help, that's kind of how I see Obama, and maybe he can't respond to every need, but he does make an effort to keep in touch with his constituency and help them, and I think that somehow Obama would continue to make some kind of effort to actually represent his constituency, and not run off on his own ideas and do what he wants and not what America wants. I see him as a considerate man, trying to fulfill the wants and needs of the people, and if that doesn't meet with his wishes of international power, then he'll change his outlook to work with the American people. I call that strong, strong enough to represent an entire nation, and not just himself, or to justify himself to bunch of underlings to whom he owes favors.

Well, maybe I'm right, or maybe I'm wrong; we'll see, maybe if he gets elected. I think he might even take polls to keep in touch with his constituency. Well, you never know...

Change the process
Whatever. It is not about Iowa or New Hamphire or the date. It is about the hype that Iowa somehow handicaps the field. The lady from Virginia who wrote a comment in a TH article just yesterday said it very well. In essence she lamented that her states' primary came to late to matter. She wanted to have a shot at supporting a candidate who may already be knocked out by the time she votes.
While it may seem that to change the process and not let Iowa have the honor of being first, consider whether any of us would feel any different if it were, say, Wyoming; unless you are a Wyomingan. Put in any state and ask yourself if you would feel it is fair for that state to have such a heavy influence in selecting the primary contender for your party. I am sure that it would happen one time that Iowa and/or New Hampshire would not be first and the realization would set in that it is not which state but the extraordinary influence any first state has on the process.
Ah ha! There is the rub. And why is that? Because the media weighs it as such. This is the nonsense of which Goldberg rants today. He just hasn't nailed it. If this were a football game it would be like the media could and would try to call the winner not after the first quarter or first half but after the first set of downs. That is a ludicrous presumption that the media makes and the public swallows. If the media would stop playing the game of bookie... oh yes they are... and let the "game" go all four quarters we might get to see some slam bang politics with the occasional winning hail mary pass or perfect two minute drill or goal line stands.
Until the media quit the king maker roll and keep to the role they ought to play, Jonah Goldberg is just going to have some other state make or break his favorite candidate.

Goldberg, the expert tourist
"Don't get me wrong. I like Iowa. I've been there many times. I would argue that one of the three best steakhouses in the world is Rube's in humble Montour. Iowans are as nice as the land is flat."

I grew up in Iowa.

Awasux.

Yes, much of Iowa is flat. Yes, Iowa has some of the best beef because it's corn-fed. The people are not nice; they are insular, class-conscious, unthinking, and generally liberal. Iowans are as nice as the Rocky mountains are flat. It's the only place I know where they will fanatically support a football program that has losing seasons consistently for 20 years, then pretend they invented the game when they import a Texan to teach them how to win.
Iowa is like Kansas without the sophistication.
Other than that... Iowa is a great place to be from... emphasis on "from".

When I first came to Oklahoma, I was walking down the street, and was shocked, then moved almost to tears. I worked up my courage and asked a passerby for the time. He was a native Okie. He didn't stare at me like I had two heads; he didn't mime offense that I would bother him in public; he didn't ask me 147,000 questions about my heritage, birthplace, what people I knew and what class I belonged to in the Iowa hierarchy.

He told me the time. He told me to have a good day. He smiled while he did it. And then he went about his business.

My first taste of a truly egalitarian society came when I moved here. For example, one time I saw a dirty man covered in grease walk into a 7-11 and pull out a wad of $100 bills that would choke a horse to pay for a slurpee, right behind another man dressed as a banker, and the two of them discussing sports or the weather or whatever, perfect strangers from obviously different classes speaking as equals.

You won't get that in Iowa.


True, we have *holes in Oklahoma too. But we don't elevate it to a social grace.


Can a Black person be a Racist?

Bring back the smoke-filled rooms. Then we can be assured that the man of the year will be NEWT, NEWT, NEWT, NEWT.

I have heard Dan Rather, yes Dan Rather, call Barack Obama, “Osama,” and I have not yet seen that misstatement in the headlines in the NY Times. If you go on Google you see Beck, Limbaugh Romney, Blitzer, and many other have been accused of mispronouncing the name, but not Rather.

We are always told that a Black person can not be racist, but I wonder.

Dictionary says, racist = racially discriminatory

If a white person does not vote for Obama because he is Black, that white person is a racist. So if a black person votes for Obama because he is black, is he not a racist?

We need a good "Front Man"


Several people have mentioned JFK as if he was the ideal President. I liked JFK very much, because he was the epitome of what we like to see, a good “Front Man.”

People must realize that in the case of both JFK and RWR, personality was more important than political brains.

Just think, there is no way any one man from any party can do all the things needed to be done by a President, and he can not be an expert in each of the thousands of items that need attention.

The President will be in office about 35,000 hours per term, so if he solved one problem each hour, 24 hours a day, he couldn’t address them all.

What is needed is a good "front" man, who, with the help of others, will select a good staff, and they are the ones who do the key work. A front man who looks good, who presents the image, who looks like he knows what he is doing can sell the project, but STAFF is the secret.

Name me one good thing that JFK is famous for. The only one I can think of is Marilyn Monroe, and that is because she reminds me so much of my Sweetie, so there.

Everyone remembers JFK as a great President, but no one remembers why they remember that, and can't think of a reason, other than "Front Man."

And if he has a good staff (certainly not Bobby) then Front man can be more important than brains.

I met with him 12 or 15 times, and I say RWR had both.

If you recall
President Reagan kept saying that *we* were going to rebuild America, not him. Contrast that will Hillary's commercial where *she* gives us all these presents like some kind of mommy.

jim
The front is important, and so is the projected vision. When these things are present, the implementers appear as if from nowhere, and the vision becomes manifest. FDR and RWR are perfect examples, if not of exactly the same vision. They were both America firsters, and no mistake about that. And Americans moved and kept to the foremost.

Undemocratic?
Funny that so many people are complaining about Iowa and New Hampshire not being representative but no one seems to have a problem with Perot and Bloomberg buying into the presidential race with no elections or democratic process whatsoever.

la disney
is there anything in the constitution that describes how anyone gets elected to office other than receiving a majority of votes in any given race. As I understand it you can a write in candidate in some elections but there is also a deadline and a required number of signatures for other elections. But what is the difference between candidates raising millions from supporters and someone financing his own campaign. But with all their allegiance to special intrerest groups I personally oppose politicians asking for federal funds to mount costly campaigns.

alphabet soup
Lilly.............please read my posts carefully before you respond, I stated that 70% of Iowa dems want hitlery to go away not the process. I disagree with you that the campaign is to long. It has to be this long to allow the country to see every detail of the canidates personality and record(ideology). The six weeks you recommend would allow people to get elected with skeletons in the closet I.E. The more people that don't pay attention to politics see and hear about hitlery the more she drops. To Jeanne-Marie, I read alot and some of the dumbest people I know have many letters after their name so as far as Hussein obama goes he is an intellectual lightweight, from his sophmoric attitude about the flag pin and holding his hand over his heart during the national anthem or pledge of allegience to being so highly educated while supporting the plantation mentality of minorities and the numerous amouts of non votes makes me form the opinion that if he wasn't black he would be in last place. I'm glad you envoked the name of JFK, who was one of the worst presidents we ever had, Viet Nam, bay of pigs, wire tapping MLK and whoring around on his wife. Just like Hussein Obama, all style, no substance elected to president, to Americas shame and demise.

Boo-hoo
my candidate "Sleek looking politician with no integrity and princlples" did not win so the system is not fair. its not fair i tell you, boo-hoo.

Caucuses
As an Iowan who happens to love the attention we get from the candidates and the personal attention I say why should it have to move every 4 years? Your number one argument to moving it is "Why not another state? Couldn't it easily be said why not Iowa? Our ideals and politics of the reflective of the nations beliefs as a whole. That is why they come here, we are a representative sample on the issues.

Caucuses
As an Iowan who happens to love the attention we get from the candidates and the personal attention I say why should it have to move every 4 years? Your number one argument to moving it is "Why not another state? Couldn't it easily be said why not Iowa? Our ideals and politics of the reflective of the nations beliefs as a whole. That is why they come here, we are a representative sample on the issues.

Obama
jim writes:
"If a white person does not vote for Obama because he is Black, that white person is a racist. So if a black person votes for Obama because he is black, is he not a racist?
"
Am sure there are many black people that will vote for Hillary, so I dont see you point. Unless you can look into anyones heart, how can you make such general statement.

Political Parties at Fault
The selection of each political parties candidate is up to them. It is the mess they have created. The way it is run now it gives a lot of power to relatively few voters. Most of America does not get a say in who thier own parties nominee is. Since it is not an election to office there is little in the constitution that applies. It is really an internal matter of both parties.

Unless the leadership of both parties can be completely overhauled, highly unlikely, the current system, which benifits the proffesional political operative the most, will continue. We the people are ill served by the current method.

I would prefer a six month campaign cycle with limits on when money could be raised, but not the amounts as long as full discolsure is ensured. I would also prefer a lottery as to the order of primary states. There could be 6 or 8 primary dates and no others. Each stste could still select thier own methods but the dates and the order would be out of thier control. It will not happen however because the ones with the most to lose are the ones who relly run both political parties and that is the full time political hack.

rockerisback
is this the reincarnation of mommy's boy. If so we have not missed your idiocy. What happened? Did mommy kick you out of her basement and you had to find a new place to crash? Are you still looking for any woman desparate enough to have a relationship with yoiu

Power?
Jonah, just what power does Iowa have with their caucuses?

It gets bragging rights of being first in the nation. That is it.

To me it matters not when Iowa has their caucuses. I'm not influenced any by what the caucus results are in Iowa.

If you are Jonah (or any one in this nation is) than maybe you (they) are not making your (their) choice for a candidate based on the facts and issues. Someone that only bases their vote on the popular opinion of Iowa (or any state) should really just stay home and save the rest of us from the burden of having a candidate than may be the result of lots of uninformed decisions.

And why must you (we) impose your (our) ideas on Iowa about them using caucuses or a vote? Each state can choose how to go about deciding how they voice their opinion of whom they want as the party candidate.

This election cycle only has one major flaw as compared to the last. The accelerated primary season has made what was a 1 year process into 2. And for what reason? What good will come of a 2 year election cycle? I'm still waiting for the answer to that.

trash iowa caucus!
many people who voted in the iowa caucus..said
religion played a big role..! iowa is not USA! thank GOD! ooops i said GOD and iam not a baptist! neither would i vote for phony hypocrit
huckster! the voters..to a major degree said...
we dont care if huckster realeased i million
prisoners, raised the mexican flag over the capitol of iowa, he is one of us! but there was
some who had enough morals to say.."screw you ..you phony preacher" they voted for the other candidates! maybe we should let "karate kid" norris and mikey..be pres./vice pres. of iowaexico! and put a fence around it..and waterboard the heck out of everybody we catch
trying to reach civilization..the rest of the country!(throw in mc cain..he can be on the P.T.A. BOARD for the terrorists..in iowaexico) !!
elvis

Who is racist
rockerisback writes: Friday, January, 04, 2008 6:31 PM
Obama
jim writes: Friday, January, 04, 2008 1:16 PM

"If a white person does not vote for Obama because he is Black, that white person is a racist. So if a black person votes for Obama because he is black, is he not a racist?
"

rockerisback said
Am sure there are many black people that will vote for Hillary, so I dont see you point. Unless you can look into anyones heart, how can you make such general statement.

=============
I say

How can anyone tell if anyone is racist? How about their action? Well, since someone is in a voting booth, it is impossible to figure why they did whatever they did.

But that doesn't make the statement untrue.

As I have said at other times, color, race, gender, and all those things are identifiers. Once you have identified anyone by any feature, you then treat them as you have been taught, or by what you have read in the paper, or by your past relations with a person with those features.

So when you see a black candidate, your vote will be based on your past experience and knowledge of black people, not just on what he says he does and what he will do. And the same for a female, a bald man, an old man, and on and on.

And all of that is because you are a human being, and neither you nor the candidate is perfect.

loco
Dear loco,

It is true that Obama is to the left. He IS a Democrat; that might be expected.

In any case, do you have any idea of what a middle class income is, and an upper middle class income is? I asked before, and someone replied that the national average for a teacher is $45,000, but that's not what I wanted to know. If you have any idea, I would like to know. Thanks in advance.

Alternatives
Check out...

FairVote.org

they list several primary reform options on their Presidential Election Reforms page....
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