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Friday, October 05, 2007
Jonah Goldberg :: Townhall.com Columnist
If Limbaugh is the Kettle, Democrats Are the Pot
by Jonah Goldberg
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Keith Olbermann, MSNBC’s answer to a question no one asked, declared this week that I’m the “worst person in the world.” This is not as bad as it might seem. It’s sort of like being called uncool by the asthmatic assistant recording secretary of the high school chess team.

I’m the worst person in the world — the designation is apparently a nightly feature of Olbermann’s show — because during a Fox News interview about the current idiotic Rush Limbaugh flap, I said that conservatives don’t actually question the patriotism of liberals, they merely call attention to the statements of liberals.

Olbermann lifted his objection to my statement from the group that launched this Limbaugh flap, Media Matters for America (you should read “for America” as “for the Democratic Party” and “for the Democratic Party” as “for Hillary Clinton”). Olbermann & Co. asserted I was wrong, citing a monologue on Rush Limbaugh’s show that later appeared on his Web site under the heading: “You’re Damn Right American Left, We’re Questioning Your Patriotism.”

To which I have to respond: Touché!

However, one could split some ideological hairs here. There is a difference between the “American left” and “liberals,” after all. And usually when fringe leftists openly denounce imperialist America or express hope that she will be bloodied abroad or at home, self-described liberals are usually the first to respond, “Hey, liberals aren’t leftists.” If Olbermann and Media Matters now want to ditch that distinction and hence claim every nut-job leftist as their own, fine by me.

Anyway, the point I’d been trying to make was that liberals routinely and righteously condemn the “questioning” of anyone’s patriotism — until they have a chance to do it themselves. For example, in the debates over the formation of the Department of Homeland Security and the passage of Patriot Act, Democrats accused George Bush and the GOP leadership of questioning Democrats’ patriotism. But they never did any such thing. Rather, Democrats asserted that Republican criticism of their opposition was tantamount to questioning their patriotism.

John Kerry was the all-time champ of this sort of thing. He routinely insinuated that criticisms of his positions on national defense were tantamount to McCarthyism. Indeed, like Johnny Carson’s Carnac the Magnificent, Kerry could psychically predict the reaction before it happened. Addressing the Council on Foreign Relations, he prophesied, “I know what the Bush apologists will say to this — that it is unpatriotic to question, to criticize and to call for change.”

This in itself is a backhanded way to question the patriotism of your opponents. After all, to liberals, Joe McCarthy is synonymous with “un-American.” So, by preemptively and wantonly declaring any criticism to be McCarthyite dirty pool, Democrats are questioning the patriotism of their opponents in order to silence dissent (they play a similar preemption game with charges of racism as well). Continued...

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Jonah Goldberg is editor-at-large of National Review Online.
 
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I have...
spoken to soldiers who have been to Iraq, some pro, some con. And I probably know more about what goes on in the Iraqi mind than Wolfowitz did when he said we'd be "welcomed as liberators." (He also said everything would be paid out of Iraqi oil revenues, but I digress.)

From the point of view of Bush, I don't see Iraq as being so complex. Bush and his neocon cronies sold the American People a bill of goods to get us into war. Had Bush explicitly stated that it would be a long, complex, multi-year war and occupation with tens of thousands of casualties and costs of over a trillion dollars, I'd at least be comforted in knowing that our top officials had a clue what they were getting you and the military into.

About the 9/11 Commission Report, it says there was no operational link between Iraq and al-Qaeda. And after the Bush Admin's fear-mongering (warning in the form of a mushroom cloud), he clearly associated Saddam with a 9/11 style terrorist attack.

Those who are in iraq now...
There are plenty of us in Iraq right now. Why don't any of you thing to ask us what's really going on over here? Think it might burst the little safe bubble that you live in?

It amuses me that folks like "al" presume to know ANYTHING about what's really going on over here on the ground. Who do you think is going to know more about what goes on in the Iraqi mind, someone who is acutally here working with them or some mindless twit making suppositions from the safety of your home in the U.S.A.? Stop thinking you have a clue what the Iraqis think and how they act/react as a result. It's more complex that you could possibly imagine and it would take way too long to explain it in a forum like this. It is the complete antithesis of the western way of thinking.

As for the "no Saddam/Al Qeada connection" too much paperwork out there that belies that canard. Try reading the 9/11 commission report where a training and operational link existed. Was Saddam responsible for 9/11? No, but the links to Al Queda are there and have been reported.
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