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Wednesday, July 11, 2007
Jonah Goldberg :: Townhall.com Columnist
Live Earth: Dead on Arrival
by Jonah Goldberg
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"If you want to save the planet, I want you to start jumping up and down. Come on, m------------!" Madonna railed from the stage at London's Live Earth concert Saturday. "If you want to save the planet, let me see you jump!"

You just can't beat that. What else could capture the canned juvenilia of a 48-year-old centimillionaire - who owns nine homes and has a "carbon footprint" nearly 100 times larger than the norm - hectoring a bunch of well-off aging hipsters to show their Earth-love by jumping up and down like children?

But, hey, I don't want to bash Live Earth, which is not to be confused with Live Aid (1985, dedicated to eradicating African famine) or Live 8 (2005, promising to relieve African nations' debts). So with the African continent so well-fed - and debt-free! - who can blame the Celebrity Concern Industry for moving on to its next big success?

The avowed point of Live Earth was to ... can you guess? That's right: raise awareness about global warming. Considering the energy required to put on the show, the nine Live Earth concerts doubtlessly raised more CO2 than awareness. NBC's three-hour televised version got trounced by "Cops" and "America's Funniest Home Videos." Moreover, surely most of the people who attended or tuned in already knew about global warming before they saw the video tutorial about Ed Begley Jr.'s eco-friendly home and sanctimony-powered go-cart.

Still, if fans had somehow missed the global warming story entirely, imagine how befuddled they must have felt while listening to Dave Matthews sing the glories of cloth diapers. And, assuming they didn't hit the mute button when Czech supermodel Petra Nemcova came to the stage, one wonders what any climate-change ingenues might have made of her remarks. The model, who nearly was killed in Thailand by the 2004 tsunami, explained that she "didn't feel hate toward nature" because of the tsunami. "I felt nature was screaming for help."

It's nice that Nemcova didn't want to blame the messenger, but it's hard to feel a similar reluctance about Live Earth's impresario in chief. Former Vice President Al Gore recently penned a book in which he rails against the current "assault on reason" by the evil forces of Earth-hating right-wingery. He repeatedly invokes science as if it's his exclusive property. But the soft paganism on display in Nemcova's faith-based assertion that a suboceanic earthquake was the result of Mother Nature sending us a message is typical of greenhouse gasbaggery.

Gore talks about the dysfunction of political discourse today. But when it comes to global warming, he and his acolytes insist that the time for debate is over. In other words, Gore's ideal discourse would involve only discussion about how best to follow through on his prescriptions.

But such high-minded objections sail over the chief source of Live Earth's lameness. The acts were mostly fine. But the outrage and passion felt so prepackaged, you almost expected Ludacris (who rapped about the evils of SUVs) to say, "This moral outrage is brought to you by GE's Ecomagination." One could say Live Earth is proof that global warming has jumped the shark, except for the fact that the phrase "jumped the shark" has jumped the shark.

Madonna, Genesis, UB40, the Police, Cat Stevens (now Yusuf Islam), Crowded House, Duran Duran - these were among the headliners for this supposedly cutting-edge extravaganza. I listened to these acts in high school more than 20 years ago, and some of them were already going gray by then. Phil Collins is 56. Sting is 55. Cat Stevens is pushing 60. The Rolling Stones didn't play Live Earth, but I wouldn't be surprised if that was because Mick Jagger needed a hip replacement.

Like the Rolling Stones, who define "graceful retirement" as drags on the oxygen tank between sets, these acts hawk youthful-activism nostalgia for the fans rich enough to pay for it.

Some argue that environmentalism has become a secular religion. Buying carbon offsets, they say, is the modern equivalent of purchasing indulgences for your sins from the Catholic Church. Live Earth certainly fit into that vision. The concerts seemed like Baptist hoedowns of yore, except now Gore is the Billy Sunday for the baby boomer booboisie.

Maybe that's in the works, too. But more likely, these were simply concerts by and for people who need to salt their sanctimony with platitudes about raising awareness. The music industry always has played fans for saps. In 1968, Columbia Records peddled the slogan "The Man Can't Bust Our Music!" Now global warming is a brilliant way to market aging rockers too rich and famous to pass as rebels against anything save their refusal to retire with some dignity.

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Sorceress
You are right, it is a hoax. The global temperature snapshots are just another tool being used to create a new class of eco-elites. If you are a poor sap just making your way, you must follow their directives and subordinate your pursuit of happiness by purchasing the products made by companies they have invested in. If you are wealthy, you must pay protection money to corporations they invest in. Either way it is the tranfer of wealth from your pockets to theirs.

Live Earth
I have some news for Algore and the other econazis: A single degree warmer in a century is statistically meaningless. Given that the methods of obtaining temperature measurements have varied over that century and given that the margin for error must surely exceed that one degree, anyone with more than two functional brain cells must admit that there is no proof of "global warming" let alone a global warming crisis. You don't even need to factor in sun cycles or co2 "footprints" (whatever that is). It isn't happening people. Do the research. Do the math. Global warming is a hoax being perpetrated on the world by those who want more control, higher taxes and less freedom for all. Al Gore is its high priest.

Oh, and those indulgences? If I use 20 times the amount of energy (i.e. I put out 20 times more co2 than the average person) and I pay 20 average guys for their co2 "excess", what has changed? The same amount of co2 is still being produced. There is no net change in the amount of co2 being put into the atmosphere.

PS I promise not to use 200 million "units" of co2 emissions. Please make your checks payable to...

wildwest
love your "rev al 2" - if ever someone sounded like a haughty holier-than-thou preacher, it's RA2!

Thank goodness he was on the losing side in 2000. Had he not contested the election, just maybe the "great divide" wouldn't be quite so great. Let's face it, if he had carried his home state, Florida wouldn't have even mattered. He simply can't face that fact, I guess.

Just wondering...
since the majority of the socialistic libocrats fall into the religous group that the lovely Ann Coulter appropriately terms "darwiniacs", and said group believes our great-great-great..etc. grandaddies were some sort of ape/gorilla/chimpanzee, and before that a lightning generated single-celled lifeform, what exactly gives us the authority to stop ourselves from doing what comes naturally? If we are but evolved animals, with no spiritual connection to an omnipotent creator, couldn't the destruction of earth as we know it be our purpose? Thus paving the way for a being even more advanced than ourselves? How come "the right thing to do" only applies to global warming and not the wilfull abortion of viable human lives?

clyde
my guess is live earth will just be another in a long list of forgotten concerts with the entertainment provided by has been musicians soon to be forgotten but like alldull will perform anywhere to keep themselves in the public eye

Live earf
Julz;That You-Tube video about sums it up,eh? As for GW, the worst thing that has happened for the debate is Al Gore being the anointed one. Who can believe a word this known,proven liar says?

alldull
how can this phony cure what he don't fully understand. In his lecturing monotone he is very quick to tell us our sins. He needs to give it a rest a take a break from his carbon offset scam and lead by example. Begley Jr. might be humerous in his approach but at least he doesn't live the life of a hypocrite as does' the messiah alldull. Perhaps if alldull would make a gesture that he can make a sacrifice along the lines he demands from the rest of us perhaps responsible people might pay him an iota of attention. It is just too much to expect serious people to view him as anything other than a fraud. If anyone could analyze the energy wasted and the carbon footprint that alldull always lectures us about were fully studied maybe we could get a clearer picture of what this energy hypocrite really stands for and how wasting energy is not his agenda but rather keeping alldull in the news

Big Al
Big Al isn't threatening (unless the majority starts listening to him)- however his yammering useless platitudes about an impossible abstract environmental "crisis" is much easier than worrying about something important like the threat of Islamofascism. And certainly easier to dream up "crazy" things you can do as an individual to "save the planet".

Hey what ever happened to the ozone hole? I thought we were supposed to be toast by now...acid rain, global cooling, ozone depletion, global warming, Algore's carbon offsets- (follow the money trail). I'm afraid the repetitive drama will eventually hurt legitimate environmental issues (if it hasn’t already).

will
"They just (like thugs) try to rough Gore up a little because for some reason, conservative bloggers see him as a threat."

We don’t just see him as a threat. We KNOW he is a threat.

Doctor Al’s diagnosis: ¾ degree increase in the earth’s surface temperature is caused by man, and more specifically, by the United States of America.

Doctor Al’s remedy: Require the United States to reduce CO2 emissions, but give China and India a free pass. That is the Kyoto Treaty he wants his own country to sign. That is treason in my book.

For a former Vice President to host concerts and providing a forum on foreign soil to denounce US businesses and American citizens is also treasonous.

Given the opportunity, Al will cripple the US economy and give our enemies a competitive edge. THAT should concern any REAL American!!

Warning, Warning, Danger, Will Robinson
We are experiencing global cooling here in Tennessee. The forecast for this weekend in Memphis? In the 70’s. Normal high in Memphis is 92.

SAVE US, AL!!!

Audi R 10- Your 7:23 posting
Audi R10,

You rock, girl. Great post.

Not necessarily. . .
A Planet in Crisis,
more like
Careers in Crisis.

ALL
If we could harness bull crap from these left wing nuts, that at least help solve the energy
problem..

Such dedication to the environment...
I knew somebody would capture it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WhJxvmt_qE

to really bring "life" to earth. . .
To really bring life to Earth, they should have all been in Nashville, TN, on 7/7/07. Between 85,000-100,000 people, mostly younger than 25, came together to worship God, seek His face, repent for our nation and ask for God's mercy to the good 'ol USA. It was an awesome, awe-inspiring, history changing event. It strikes me as ironic that "Live Earth" would have an event on the same day.

Robert
OK, there was one in 1987 or 1988. That was a pretty bad one, too. It all came down about eight hours in the morning and afternoon. I was in Greenville, SC then. I was the only one who could drive home because being from the mountains in NC, I had a 4x4 and chains. That storm was not nearly as bad as the one we had in 1993. We got three feet one night in NC. Atlanta had about 18 inches.

BMAN!!!!
WE'RE NEIGHBORS, HON! Summerville, here :D Btw, bman, are you aware that our state legislature has failed this state where illegals are concerned? nice to meet a fellow SC'er and so close, too! an' i ain't gonna stalk ya i promise

Hypocacy revealed
just like the hypocracy of the energy burning celebs at the concert. News was just delivered that Rep. Dingel's energy proposal was blocked by Pelosi as not good politically and too expensive. So, window dressing and great words are really what the global warning activity is about. To try to do anything meaningful will be very very very expensive.

Global warning solution or
just hypocracy? That whiley old legislator Rep. Dingel has come up with a great idea. Instead of dumping all the costs of trying to reduce warming on the automobile industry he is proposing an energy tax that will impact everyone. In view of how costly it will prove to be, it will test how serious people are about really trying to do something meaningful about global warming. Forget about light bulbs, driving a hybred or turning down the thermometer which will do little in dealing with the problem. Enact the energy tax and test people's will since it will decidedly impact how one lives.

sfasu7392
having moved from sc it has been an adjustment getting used to the heat. Going for 40 plus inches a rain a year to less than 2 inches so far this year has also been an adjustment. But hot is hot just easier to take without humidity. There are probably places with more perfect year round weather. I jst have never lived in one. But I remeber dallas and it's weather problems when they made the news and I knew the discomfort you were going through. In charleston we used to wake up some mornings with humidity in excess of 90% plus 80 degree temps. I know how unpleasant that was and don't miss that aspect of sc at all

Im confused again
What ever happened to the coming ice age that Time magizine featured in 1974????????????

sfasu7392
what's the big deal about 100 degree days. Here in arizona that goes on for several months. We just don't get the humidity so it is bearable. As long as the dew point remains below 50 degrees you can actually cool your house by putting moisture in the air. Don't know the scientific whys but it works. Once the dew point passes 55 air conditioning is a must however. But we do get some snow. It doesn't last but things will stay white for a few hours

Robert
"Anyone who has ever been in Atlanta when the weather people announce that six snowflakes were spotted in Memphis knows just
...when I was at Grad school...that the WX people (is Guy Sharp still alive WXIA?) were predicing snow and no one believed them...the entire city was shut down...what a hoot."

It was 1993. I remember it very clearly. I was doing a job there and was stranded for a week. When I got home to North Carolina, we had the worst rain on record that summer. As I recall, five Boy Scouts from Atlanta on a hiking trip in the NC mountains got swept away in a swollen creek. Everything got washed away, bridges, dams, roads, etc. Both the snow and the rain were hundred-year events, but the chicken littles were out in force. They said due to man-made conditions, warming or cooling or whatever, those kind of weather events would be the norm. Many like myself spent a fortune reinforcing everything on their property in preparation for more of the same. Of course, none of that was necessary. We haven’t seen anything like that since.

The lesson here is “The world is NOT coming to an end.” Do you hear me, Al? It’s going to be OK. The earth is not burning up.


alldull
close friends of his claim to have smoked pot with the new messiah in their younger days. Does that make him confused for what it did to his brain, or more enlightened because it opened his horizons. Is this an accepted activity or does it contribute in any way to global warming. I would guess the air was rather pungent at those"concerts"

Hippies, go home
Now that Woodstock II is over, will the 70-something crowd please take the bus back to the nursing home and stay there?

The Good Old Days
Let's get down to reality. Having been raised on a farm during the "golden age" I can testify that it would be great to return to the days of yore. (born in 1931)

As I recall, we had one of the better outhouses in the area because there were two seats available. Of course we were also blessed to have the newspaper available! If it wasn't there we could go back to the middle age practice of the left hand cleanser. Of course we had a water pump nearby (no rusty pipes for us)for sanitary purposes.

We had cows to feed at one end so we could get milk and other by-products out the other end. The lack of electric milking machines gave us the blessing of straining the milk through "cloth" filter. That enasbled us to rewash the cloth using the cold water from the pump to purify the cloth. No wasted paper disposable strainers for us.

We also saved all kinds of petrol by riding bareback on our ponies; saddles were not used since they were made of leather and while many of our friends ignored our "save the planet warningss" they were able to ride their horses without getting blisters on their hind-ends. But being "eco" friendly gave us great satisfaction while applying "bag balm" to our blisters. We tried to convert our friends, but they were determined to waste the leather.

Another nice thing that we should consider is to bring back the horse and carriage. Look at all the jobs we could create building wonderful open(no gas emissions) and beautiful carriages.

We also kept the use of paper and other evil products at a minimum; clothe diapers were well washed in tubs using a special scrub board. We saved so much electricity and really benefitted our backs by the excercise of scrubbing.

It would also benefit this earth if we returned to the old fashioned ice box. The ice man would drive his team of horses (no gas guzzlers there) pulling the ice wagon to the house. Then use a handsaw to cut out several pounds of ice for our ice box. Of course he had to run fast to keep the ice from melting but look at the health benefit from aerobics.

You can't believe the amount of coal (or wood) saved by not having a furnace with a lot of duct (saves more metal) work. Everyone could huddle around the single coal burning stove to keep warm in the winter. The stove was great for cooking; look how much energy we saved; cooking with the same heat that kept us warm. Oops, in the summer there was a slight problem; the outside temperature being in the nineties, but by the stove more like 105.

I sure hope we will get back those days. Our great leader (gaining more weight are you Al?) will show us the way by PERSONALLY RETURNING TO THE DAYS OF GORE, I MEAN YORE.

It might be nice to hear more people thank the good Lord for the material blessings we enjoy and give Him credit; otherwise He may just take it all back.

Gore
I have to admit, he is my guilty pleasure!
I can't stop talking and reading(and writing to TH) about this epic loser!
Keep it coming Al.
I can just see the day when he takes credit for
the cure for cancer!

madonna
in order to gain an audience did the old chick promise to expose herself and make out with women to guarantee people would watch

YouRAJ:

Although I can somewhat appreciate your religious fervor, I am nonetheless unconvinced by your message of Gored News for the salvation of the planet. You see, unlike Christ, who led by example – even unto his own death – for the salvation of mankind, Gore is the very antithesis of the “virtues” he espouses.

And gosh YouRAJ… Are we to manage the planet or the planet us? What with Petra Nemcova saying she "didn't feel hate toward nature" because of the tsunami. I’m beginning to wonder if you folks haven't stepped over the edge on the Mother Nature metaphor?!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

(cont. from Amanda Carpenter’s thread) More hymns for the Gorified Believers: “Oh that will be Gory for me.” “Therefore the Redeemed of the Gored.” And another sure to be classic, “Gory, Gory Lollapalooza.”

georgetwin
at these fabulous concerts did they limit themselves to one sheet of toilet paper as proposed by that other intellectual giant sheryl crow. Doesn't she cruise around the country with a fleet of buses, semis and assorted cars lecturing others on wasting energy in the same vein as the new messiah, alldull

I'm so glad
I didn't watch it. I still want to puke just reading about it.....

bman
the atmosphere is heating up with all the hot air spewing from alldull's pie hole. If we could just get him to shut up the atmosphere might cool a bit

alldull
I used to use the rev al in my postings when talking about sharpton. I guess I must use rev al 2 to refer to the head of this new religious cult of global warming. But the repulsive alldull has finally gone to heaven. He is a rock star. He can spew nonsense to the brain dead who line up to prostrate themselves at his feet while his mouths useless dictums about how they should lead their lives. A better act would have been that the concert attendees signed a pledge vowing to attend remedial education classes. alldull has demonstrated repeatedly that this is settled science and he need not answer any questions but has exclusive right to lercture us on our bad behavior while he lives the life of a useless energy hog. I guess being a mediocre student at Harvard has paved the way for this intellectual giant, who lacks any scientific knowledge or has a science background to pawn himself as the new messiah who has come to save us from ourselves. That people actually buy the patent medicine being sold by this snake oil salesmen is truly baffling. That is until I listen to his cult whorshippers mouth his idiocy. Long live the new messiah and may he succeed in finally showing the world who truly intellectually empty he is

madonna was pitiful...but hillarious
It was like watching my 70 year-old Mom trying to be cool by playing an electric guitar. What is it about aging rock stars that makes them forget how uncool being an old establishment fart preaching on a high horse is? This is a battle cry when you're a teenager - rally against the "establishment" (anyone old enough to be your parents). Once the old farts get a hold of a topic, it is time to move on to something else that is untouched and therefore "cool". Live Earth was about as uncool as you can get - compounding it was the fact that it was put together by the fat, nincompoop - Owl Gore - the antithesis of cool. I think the majority of the viewership was there like they were watching a NASCAR race - they were waiting for one of the old goats to croak on stage. Now THAT would have been cool.

Loribme
Thanks for the reminder about "acid rain". I had a chemist friend in his 80s who had worked all his life for a paint company, who said at the time that their figures were off by a couple of orders of magnitude and indicated that vinegar was falling from the skies.

Anyone who has ever been in Atlanta when the weather people announce that six snowflakes were spotted in Memphis knows just exactly how much attention to pay to the Chicken Littles of the world.

Gorbasm
At least after Live Aid, Somalia could call the UN and say, "Uh, thanks and everything, but we're really not that hungry." Now what do we do??

Ever notice that the "solutions" to the man-made, augmented greenhouse effect entail crippling America or capitalism or both.

Still the only "evidence" provided is that everybody says so, and the models all say so. The models can't even hindcast correctly.

Remember the famous Hockey stick graph? Don't hear about it anymore. Total fraud. McKitrick and MacIntyre found over 100 instances of data manipulation in 9 different categories. The lead author (Mann) doesn't even defend it anymore.

Jmag, above almost hits the solution with his betting the come on Mt. St. Helens. Remember the left's scarmongering on nuclear-induced global winter? It too was based on a fallacy - deterence failing. But occasional nuclear explosions would distribute particulates into the upper atmosphere where the incoming solar radiation would be reflected into space, etc.

The largest nuke test was 57 megatons - approximately 1/5 the Krakatoa explosion of 1883 that cast some 6 cubic miles skyward. Mt. St. Helens threw up +/- 0.2 cubic miles.

Of course we'd need to ramp up the program slowly to get the math right. Hmmm, it also occurs to me that Democrats and especially the enviros hate all things nuclear, hence couldn't be trusted to be anywhere near the solution.

Bottom-Line
A bunch of Filthy, Smelly, Tree-Hugging, Hippie-Leftover, Dopers who were as high as a kite. They burned UNCOUNTED GALLONS of GASOLINE/DIESEL to get to a concert. While there, they put UNCOUNTED GALLONS of human waste into the ground water. They Consumed food & drink TRUCKED IN to the concert on DIESEL TRUCKS. They threw their trash into dumpsters that were TRUCKED IN to the concert on DIESEL RIGS. Yet THESE IDIOTS have the nerve to say they are trying to SAVE THE EARTH! They are bigger liars and hypocrites than the Clintons!

YouRepubsAreJokers
You were mentioned onstage. "Dave Matthews sing the glories of cloth diapers.". Those rubber sheets aren't very Enviro-Friendly though.


8 million viewers
That's comparable to...

1) last year's national spelling bee:

http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/articles/2006/06/03/spelling_bee_averages_8_million_viewers/

Compare it to last week's reruns...

1. "America's Got Talent," NBC, 11.51 million viewers.

2. "CSI: Crime Scene Investigation," CBS, 9.91 million viewers.

3. "So You Think You Can Dance" (Wednesday), Fox, 9.83 million viewers.

4. "So You Think You Can Dance" (Thursday), Fox, 9.39 million viewers.

5. "Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader?," Fox, 9.32 million viewers.

6. "Two And a Half Men," CBS, 9.12 million viewers.

7. "CSI: Miami," CBS, 8.95 million viewers.

8. "Princess Diana Tribute," NBC, 8.82 million viewers.

9. "So You Think You Can Dance," (Wednesday, 8 p.m), Fox, 8.654 million viewers.

10. "Law And Order: Special Victims Unit," NBC, 8.648 million viewers.

Suffice it to say that the liberals who are convinced that this was the "greatest global event ever" should not embarrass themselves by being a contestant on the show that ranked number 5.

what a bargain
The price is all inclusive and if someone wants to take the come line on Mt. St. Helens exploding again, just one purchase covers all the excrement and acid rain over Michigan.

Get my energy credits now
Are you feeling bad about the size of your house? Does your SUV make you embarrassed? Are you planning a cross country RV trip with your family. Well, feel guilty no more, just send $14.95 plus $5.95 shipping and handling to me and I will sell you all the energy credits you need for 90 days. Enjoy the guilt free feeling of living your life the way you want knowing that I forgive your carbon footprint. Leave your credit card number so I can renew your credits every 90 days. If I'm not personally available to forgive you its because Im out saving the world somewhere at one of Madonnas houses.

KIDDING ME, YOKELS
RIGHT FOLLOWERS, NO LOGIC -
if a HALF of a degree raise in Earth temp. can create all that jazz, why a 10 degree DROP did not create TWENTY TIMES BIGGER JAZZ?

The answer:
ALGOR politics have nothing to do with science, logic, honesty.
But he had turned to the right crowd - the idiots with a single digit IQ called "celebrities".

Live Earth et al
If these pseudo-environmentalists would just stop buying and carrying around their silly PLASTIC bottles of water, global warming would be halved! What is wrong with drinking tap water which is probably what is in the expensive bottles anyway?

I'm 70 and have been drinking tap water all my life -- not dead yet from toxins.

Al Gore, Madonna, are inspirations
Prior to Live Earth I was content to just live in one house, drive my 6 cylinder SUV to work and live a relatively modest, yet comfortable life. That was before I learned I could buy 9 mega-houses, fly jets all over the world and travel by motorcade and still be regarded as a moral paragon. Call to action? Heck yeah it was a call to action. Conspicuous consumption is where it's at!

Entertainers As Evangalists..Not Quite
It was bound to happen -it has been happening for 4 decades. Orginally, the generation of acid, abortion, and amnesty were just living out adolescent illusions of granduer. Bob Dillon, Peter, Paul, and Mary, The Beatles, The Who, Joan Baez, and Crosby Stills Nash, and Young at least were living out what was once a tradition of Central European romantacists, who used to wander the country side playing thier guitars and bumming free beer.

Today, it is mainly aging Baby Boomers entertainers, who realize that time is not on thier side. The Police, Duran Duran, and Madonna are as relavant as The Kingston Trio and Sha-na-na. Last Summer on PBS I saw a group of old men playing a concert for other middle-agers. I was shocked that these guys were none other than the Doobie Brothers. How pathetic. Rock music has always been about Youth. To see 55-62 year old men sing 33 year old songs, which glorify all things young is wierd. To see the audience enjoy it is stranger still. In my opinion, it would be no stranger than if the audience was enjoying the Old Howdie Doodey on stage.

Using old rich entertainers to push some Gotterdamerung-socialistic abstraction is bad enough. If the intentions were to raise awareness of the nearing Apocolypse, why not try at least some younger Death Rock groups; even the old Grunge Rockers like Sound Garden or Alice in Chains, or Pearl Jam would have been preferable than watching Sting attempting to be relevant.


Live Earth
Live Earth: yet another liberal excuse to come together, engage in some good ol' fashioned hand-wringing, but hold a social gathering so they can feel good while not doing a damn thing. A whole lot of vain, trite, superficial showmanship.

Live Earth is sorta like marches to end violence against women. Nice cause, but marching down a street doesn't stop a single woman from getting beaten. And then these people don't want me to think that they're only about being boisterous? But there's nothing like social gatherings absent of action to make liberals feel good about themselves anyway, and that they've helped to make a difference.

As for the Global Warming folks, 3 issues:

1.) What makes you think that the climate we have now is optimal?
2.) If global warming is man-made, please explain why no statistical model has been able to account for the medieval warming period and the mini ice age that followed.
3.) If global warming is man-made, why are the temperatures on Mars and Jupiter recently been detected as rising? Could global warming then be due also in part to geothermal or solar activity? If so, how much of global warming do these natural phenomena account for?

All that jumping might have worked
if the timing were better planned. The chilling effect of sagging old tarts and lame 80's bands could indeed save the planet. It's all here!

http://kilroyreport.townhall.com/

more carbon neutral suggestions
Perhaps global warming proponents should consider abstinence since the resulting offspring of sexual intercourse between activists would start polluting with their first breath. I would have suggested "safe sex" but condoms and the Pill use enrgy created from co2 producing power plants to produce them.A large portion of the activist crowd seem to be homosexual. They of course can continue with there sexual activity since the only co2 created is the heavy breathing.

irony
Activist Sting's famous song with the Police "Every breath you take" promotes co2 pollution by its very title.

event
even if current more popular bands played, even if everyone in the world with a television watched it wouldn't change the fact that a concert to raise awareness accomplishes nothing. I take that back it does manage to create more of the co2 "pollution" that the event is supposed to make us aware of. This concert would be th equivalent of raping a bunch of people to raise awareness of rape, or murdering people to raise awareness about murder. If the leftist tree huggers want to raise awareness about "global warming" they should practice what they preach. This would have several benefits, not least of which is that if a lefty really is carbon neutral he can't write on the computer because the energy used is from co2 emmitting power plants, no television either, and no writing in papers as the trees used to make the paper convert co2 to oxygen.

Gorecle and science
What Al Gorecle knows about science would be like an orphan on the moon on the head of a pin.

Stop the debate, we are right and everyone else is wrong, no matter what the facts are!! Now, I'm going to take my ball and go home!! :-(

oh and don't forget...
all the hoopla about acid rain. Funny thing-we didn't melt.

The problem with global warming
The problem with the global warming debate is that those who adhere to the to principle of man made global warming have treated two propositions as if they are scientific law.

Their first law is that the earth is warming.

Their second law is that man's activities are causing this warming.

They judge all scientific activity and facts based upon whether they support or oppose these two laws. Any fact or theory which supports these laws is counted by them as right, and any fact or theory which implies that these two laws might be wrong is counted as error.

Unfortunately this turns the scientific method and reason on its head. The scientific method seeks facts, formulates theories, and tests these theories based upon whether facts and/or experiments support them, and whether facts and experiments contradict them. If the theory is well supported and never contradicted, in normal scientific processes it would then, and only then, be considered a law. By creating a law and then using that law to judge whether facts are true they throw reason to the wind. By thus rejecting reason, they make reasoned disagreement with them impossible. They are not reasonable, and those who are not reasonable are mad, insane, or worse.

There is room for reasonable debate on the subject of global warming, but only reasonable people will be able to carry it on. To the extent that reason is rejected by either side of the discussion they turn the debate ugly, the results into mindless violence, and the conclusions tainted.

It is ridiculous to think that reason will be found by middle aged rock stars writhing around on the stage, or by their well heeled fans jumping up and down in their seats.

I implore those who worship at the altar of the first two laws of global warming to not cast reason aside. The results will be much better for us all if reason and sanity prevail.

RAJ,
you need to grow up, little one. The world does not revolve around you or your flawed political views. All your hissy fit temper tantrum does is discredit anything you say. And as far as the global warming hoax is concerned, I'm not changing my lifestyle one tiny little bit to accomodate dicatators like yourself. You want to live in a cave? Go for it but don't make the rest of us intelligent people bow down to you. Now, go drink some Pablum, child, and try to learn something important.

yourpukesmakemelaugh
More protection is needed from people like you &
Fat Al than anything else..

These same whackos told us about 1970 that our
pollution would start cooling the earth"during the next 17yrs".

The earth has been getting warmer for thousands or millions of years.
How about explaining "carbon neutral"?
How about explaining where 300ft of ice in death
valley went" --It wasn't 50yrs ago--

jerabaub
"The more radical within this movement would return us to a lifestyle of 100 years ago. No air conditioning, no modern appliances, no jet travel.

That is what they have in store for us. But not them."

You've nailed it, except that it will be worse for us, because most of us have no experience with such a lifestyle, whereas those from 100 years ago had lived with it all their lives. How many of us know anything about horses? Not me. I figure a lot of us will end up as servants on the estates of people like Gore.

One other point: sometimes people here at TH call these people socialists, but they are the exact opposite of socialists. They don't even pretend to have any concern for the poor.

Don'tLookHereThe joke's In YourHand
Sign a treaty to redoce CO2 by 90%? Words on paper accomplish nothing. The only way to reduce CO2 that much is to drastically reduce the population. If you'd like to volunteer, I'm sure you will have no trouble finding someone to oblige you.
Bury sources of CO2? See the above paragraph.
Otherwise, if you want to lead the green lifestyle ala Ed Begley Jr. go for it.
few if any will criticize such actions, so get off your high horse an lead by example, people will take your rantings maybe a bir more seriously.

YouRepubs...
In 2003 there was a cricket match between India and Pakistan that shut down both countries. That's a billion people affected.

How does that compare with your silly little concert?

And why is a concert in which at least one of the performers, Madonna, is obviously not doing anything about global warming supposed to be a success? This was a failure right from the start. Didn't anyone think about screening the performers ahead of time to see if they were actually living a green lifestyle?

How stupid!

Please, continue...
"OH ,that's right YOU CAN"T."

Actually, I can.

"LIVE EARTH THE LARGEST GLOBAL EVENT ... IT WAS, SO WHERE IS THE LIE, STUPID?"

According to their own figures, Live Earth received 8 million on-line viewers. That's about a quarter of what "American Idol" got in sweeps week - half what "Deal or No Deal" and "Survivor: Fiji" pulled in... It wouldn't even make the top 25 in a typical TV week.

It's called "context".

"It's purpose was in raising awareness of global warming."

So, by all means, demonstrate that it did...

"IT WAS, AND EVERY WORD IS FROM THEIR WEBSITE, SO WHERE IS THE LIE, STUPID?"

Stupidity is better indicated by relying on their website as actual evidence of accomplishment.

"That is saying a LOT, to get BANNED from a ranting Repub site, as a ranting Repub."

Actually, I could have been reinstated but had already been blogging under the new site for a few weeks (and got others to change the links). Rest assured that no one else will be banned because of YOUR complaints ever again.

Rant on! We enjoy the entertainment.

AudiR10
Amen! Couldn't have said it better myself.

Hot air hooey.
This "Live Earth" event was just a forum where incredibly wealthy and spoiled entertainers, whose feelings trump logic and whose emotions trump scientific inquiry, can strut about the stage, posing as being more "holier than thou" when it comes to the dreaded "carbon footprint, than us regular folk.

Their private jets, extensive entourages, and lavish lifestyles notwithstanding, they want to create a sense of guilt in the rest of us for wanting to live a lifestyle 1/50th as harmful to the environment as their own.

Robert Kennedy Junior has gone on record as saying those who deny man has caused global warming should be viewed as traitors.

This is some of the same crap radical Muslims exhibit toward Salman Rushdie...that he is a traitor for his views on Islam.

I don't believe most Americans will be much influenced by these pampered entertainers.

The more radical within this movement would return us to a lifestyle of 100 years ago. No air conditioning, no modern appliances, no jet travel.

That is what they have in store for us. But not them.

They must have their jets, their entourages, to continually tour the globe, "educating" the rest of us give up our "gluttonous" lifestyles.

We must understand that their mission is too important. We must make the sacrifices. Not them.

I am saved!!
I have reformed.
I watched a bunch of substance abusers led by a man of lardish proportions and I am now convinced.
The earth must be protected from these people.

Hey RAJ
Regarding everything you said: so what?

YouRAJ
Well, it's good to see that you're back. How many times have you been banished for lies, insults and basic offensiveness now? Ten? Twelve?

As usual, your "facts" either are nothing of the kind or are presented completely out of context. Does it really surprise anyone that a media company (News Corp.) is responding to its audience? Or that others are engaging in similar marketing campaigns? Does it really surprise anyone that MySpace has responded to customer demand by creating a channel that will help them make money? Does it really surprise anyone that other companies are attempting to control feul costs? Only a blithering idiot would see any of this as evidence of the effectiveness of the Live Earth (zzzzzz) event or movement.

Live Earth had the largest online audience ever? Man, that's impressive! About 8 million people listened in! Gee, that's fully a fifth of the number of listeners who tuned in to hear...

...Seabiscuit race against War Admiral in 1938. It's about one eleventh of the people tuned into the Superbowl at any given time. If every one of those who tuned in recorded the concert and every day shows it to someone who didn't catch it, it would ONLY take three and a half years to reach everyone else.

Live Earth was a non-event designed to "raise awareness" (but only preaching to the already converted) about a faith-based preconceptions backed not by actual science but exaggeration. It's meaningless, mindless, factually inaccurate, unabashedly liberal and totally useless.

Wow! No wonder you feel the need to defend it. It falls into the same category as all your previous offerings.

Pulling Together
"Can anybody think of ONE TIME when even a fraction of those numbers every truly pulled together on anything? Ever?"

How about World War II?

And if you want to see an example of "Think Globally Act Locally" in its purest form, turn on your teevee the next time someone finds an abandoned freezing newborn in a Wal Mart toilet and note that the switchboards light up all over the viewing area with offers to adopt and provide for that baby. Or the next time a family has been burned out of their home -- we had a case here where one of the children left a candle burning and caused the disaster -- and see the family sitting on the dirty smoky steps in despair -- and watch the entire viewing area and all their friends and family light up the switchboards with only one question: "How can I help?"

Somebody in the neighbourhood has her wheel chair stolen and wrecked; somebody comes forward with a new one. Somebody's specially outfitted van stolen and wrecked? Ditto. Family needs urgent medical care for child? Here comes transportation, housing, food, comfort and medical care hot-foot from the community.

And when Katrina and Rita hit, and when that mentioned tsunami hit, it wasn't the hippies who sprang to man the pumps -- it wasn't the people wailing old rock songs that solved those problems; it was the Baptists with their pickup trucks, and it was Wal-Mart with their network of distributors and transport, and it was the Sally Ann with hot food, cold water, and prayer that brought their hearts and hands to bear.

Any time people know about real people in real need, everybody jumps to help out.

When was the last time I saw people pull together to help? This morning.

For further instructions, read James Chapter 2.

Global warming-polution
I think it's a shame that all the focus is on Global Warming, which if real, is only one part of a larger problem. From where I sit the only discussion going on is about global warming which from the way it's talked about is the cause of all environmenal problems. In my mind the only thing all this yammering about GW does is to deflect concern from other more urgent environmental issues; ones we CAN do something about.
We have beccome a species that has no consience about littering, spilling toxic wastes into out waters and wasting energy at every oportunity.
While most of these issues can not be solved by legislation, some can. And those are the ones that should be given a good hard look. The others are up to each and every one of us.
It saddens me that we don't do more to keep our own little corners of the world safe and clean for ourselves and future generations. It infuriates me that GW is the only aspect of such a wide issue is the only one in the headlines.

Important point, here
Did the other two 'Live' concerts really change anything? They whipped up some enthusiasm, probably inspired some people to pull out their checkbooks to make a donation.
But the instant the hype was over, everybody went back to the exact same habits.

Now, how many people would have to change their habits, their ambitions, their dreams, in order to reverse global warming?
The answer is undoubtedly in the billions. Can anybody think of ONE TIME when even a fraction of those numbers every truly pulled together on anything?
Ever?

If catastrophic global warming is occurring and human beings are the only means for fighting it, our cause is hopeless. Any secular person who believes in global warming and still thinks the fight winnable, just hasn't faced up to the reality of humankind. Indeed, I doubt such a person has ever gone through their own neighbood trying to get people to carpool, to drop their thermostat by 5 degrees in the winter, to shut off the a/c and open the windows in the summer. This whole notion is the most ridiculously unreal fantasy imaginable.

Fortunately God has a plan. And not just a plan to redeem the earth... to redeem each of us individually.

Hypocrisy At It's Finest
Isn't it amazing these same people who are screaming about Global Warming and "fixing" the earth, are the same ones who hopped on their private jets with their 50 + entourage. Let's see, Madd-Donna. Hmmm nine houses, and how much energy did we use today folks? And the biggest buffoon of all Al Gore I see, so he wants the rest of us to live in frond huts while he languishes in a mansion and leaves every single light on in his house. The sad fact is there are muppets out there that buy into all this broo-ha-ha. Give someone a mike and they are going to fix the world. What a crock.

My awareness is raised about GoreBull
Warming.

I am painfully aware that the Gore-Bullies are insane.

Some of these people used to make good music. Take Madonna, for example. Though she was never a great singer, her music was entertaining when she started out. Then she went through the edgy, shocking phase, where she continued to "push the envelope."

But something happens to singers when the Left take over their minds and replace them with mush. They suddenly lose their ability to entertain people and start to bore us to tears.

hmmmm.... BORE... Bore?... Bore?

Couldn't be that their brains have been snatched like a bad sci-fi movie?

Replaced with a Bore Brain? ... an AL BORE BRAIN?

Aw come on!
Everyone knows that when a plant is eaten, it dies a horrible death, when rocks are thrown, they feel the pain and when we disrespect the Earth, it plots it's revenge. This is true science! Liberals always use the scientific method when determining their beliefs. I think as a way to celebrate Earth Day, I'm gonna use a whole roll of toilet paper.
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